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Tuesday, August 11, 2015

The courage of the SJW

From the police report RooshV filed with the Montreal police:
I was walking with a group of male friends on Prince Authur street when I asked three women on the sidewalk for advice on which bar to go to. We talked for 5 minutes then all entered the bar that was in front of us. We had a round of tequilla shots. I did not know them beforehand.

I talked to one girl of the group who gave me the name "Jennifer." She complimented my beard and general attractiveness and asked me to come outside with her for a cigarette. She is approximately 23 years old, shoulder length hair, brown hair, brown eyes, and slim build. She has a piercing between her nose like farm bulls have.

I went outside and sat next to her. She began sensually rubbing her legs against mine. Her skirt was short. She went back inside and I found my friends.

After 5 minutes, a group of men entered the bar that were friends with the girl. They asked me to come outside to have a drink with them. I went outside and one of the men began acting aggressively towards me, asking me for my birth name. He was a tall man with a beard and ponytail. His English was not very good.

I stepped back and then "Jennifer" approached me aggressively and said, "Is your name Roosh?" I use this name for my online writings and published literature, but did not confirm it to her verbally. Then suddenly she threw her entire beer at my head. Two more of her female friends threw beers at me. I had to remove my wig because it was soaked with beer. The group tried to assault me further but I backed away with my friends. I feared for my safety.

As I left the bar, the group followed me, yelling vulgar language. One girl yelled, "Eat my cunt." We entered a building and they tried to trespass, but we closed the door. I called the police at that time and they took a brief statement, but did not make an arrest.

After the incident, a member of the group uploaded the video of the assault on Youtube under the title "Roosh V gets beer thrown in his face." It clearly shows them attacking me without just cause. One member of the group named Jessica Lelievre then boasted on Twitter from the account @Jess_Lelievre that she participated in the assault. She wrote, "Pooring my drink on Roosh V's head was the best moment EVER!!" (She misspelled the word 'pouring'.) Her profile states that she is a university student at Concordia.
The video is below. Now, I have no doubt that the Only Real Men on the Internet will declare that Roosh is being a baby due to his filing criminal assault charges after being attacked by having several beers poured on his head. But this is the only way that sanity will ever be restored to intersexual relations; many a man has been successfully prosecuted for assault and sexual harassment for less.

What Roosh is doing is textbook black-knighting; making the SJWs live up to their own standard. In this, he is a model for every male. Don't give women a pass because you a white-knighting idiot. If they make a sexually-oriented joke at work, report them. If they touch you, report them. If they push or hit you for any reason, report them. If they talk about the gory details of their romantic exploits, report them. The same goes for other SJW-favored classes.

Striking back in kind is the only way the SJWs will ever be convinced to abandon their arsenal of bureaucratic weapons.


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Anonymous Cecil the Hitchbot August 11, 2015 4:24 AM  

"She has a piercing between her nose like farm bulls have."

LOL

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 4:38 AM  

What a bunch of classy girls and brave Knights.

Blogger JP August 11, 2015 4:39 AM  

One girl yelled, "Eat my cunt."

Poor girl just can't help herself. She thinks she hates him, but she still craves his mouth on her fur burger.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 4:48 AM  

Nope, not her. Deleted comment. I hope Roosh nails her good, in court that is.

Blogger JACIII August 11, 2015 5:05 AM  

SJW's will never abandon their bureaucratic weapons anymore than the feminists above will abandon their use of white knights.

Neither cowardice, nor perjury will ever cease to inform their behavior.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 5:42 AM  

Hitler reacts to losing the Battle Of Montreal

Anonymous Cuca Culpa August 11, 2015 5:44 AM  

I had to remove my wig because it was soaked with beer.

Roosh has a great hairpiece maker. I had no idea.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 11, 2015 6:13 AM  

So, the SJW's, feminists and their White Knight puppets basically were stalking Roosh, then assaulted him.
Yeah, some Alinsky Rules definitely fit here.

Personalize it...

Anonymous WhiteKnightLeo #0368 August 11, 2015 6:16 AM  

I don't like Roosh very much, but that doesn't excuse assault.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer August 11, 2015 6:30 AM  

The best part is the over zealous white knight in the video will always wonder why he is considered just a friend by this group of feminists.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 6:31 AM  

@8 Roosh has a great hairpiece maker. I had no idea.

Review the video. Prior to the beer soaking he's wearing some type of mop.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite August 11, 2015 6:35 AM  

The more black knights the better.

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2015 6:40 AM  

@9

> Personalize it.....

Daddy's Little Girl

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2015 6:53 AM  

Emile Lelieve Roofing might be daddy's company. On their website they have a picture of a work crew with a woman front-centre. Looks a little like Jessica. I wonder if any of the construction crew were with her white knighting?

Emile Lelièvre - Residential and commercial roofing services

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2015 6:56 AM  

More Jessica

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 7:00 AM  

@13 Pick with the blonde chick. Hard to tell with the lighting.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 7:05 AM  

Actually, here's a big version of that group picture. It would appear that is, in fact, the princess.

Blogger Jürgen Becker August 11, 2015 7:08 AM  

She also seems to be in some legal trouble


The article also mentions she is:
A student representative on the university’s Senate

Would an email campaign make sense? I wonder what the universities position is on throwing beer in peoples faces.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 7:11 AM  

I agree that Roosh handled this exactly correctly.

However... I do ask myself given the circumstances... what made him think going bar hopping in Montreal was a good idea?

Blogger Student in Blue August 11, 2015 7:16 AM  

That's victim blaming, Nate!

Blogger #0006 Hammer August 11, 2015 7:16 AM  

I take my hat off to Roosh for the restraint he has shown. I doubt I would have had the same sensibility in those circumstances.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 11, 2015 7:18 AM  

Restraint is like objectivity, dont react or take it too personal, its a set-up of sorts. Report the idiots.

Feminists more like femininitwits

Team Roosh!

Blogger M Cephas August 11, 2015 7:21 AM  

Is there one city in Canada, that these cunts don't live in? Both Toronto and Montreal are ruined by their presence.

Quebec is pretty much the most parasitical province in Canada.

I hope at least one of those that assaulted Roosh is charged, and that it goes on their criminal record. Roosh probably felt the urge to slam at least one of their heads into the concrete.

Anonymous PA August 11, 2015 7:23 AM  

"I feared for my safety."

Police and law-savvy bloggers say that this is a very important thing to state when filing police reports involving assault.

Blogger M Cephas August 11, 2015 7:28 AM  

@17. Nate

"However... I do ask myself given the circumstances... what made him think going bar hopping in Montreal was a good idea?"

The wig.

He was certain nobody would see through that disguise.

Anonymous Baseball Savant August 11, 2015 7:29 AM  

VD,
This might seem like a bad question, but if the girl threw beer in his face, isn't that considered some type of assault (I'm guessing it is because Roosh filed a complaint) but if that's the case, why wasn't Roosh's first reaction to punch her right in the mouth? Couldn't he claim she was being the aggressor? I'm thinking given my height, weight & strength, I could have knocked at least 7-8 teeth out before the last of the beer was thrown at me. Granted she could have complained of assault as well, but couldn't Roosh argue self defense? I'm for black knighting, but I'm also for giving her a little something to think on for the rest of her life & if the white knights want to come to her defense, then they have no idea what they just walked in to.

I'm not trying to be a "real man" here. I agree he did the right thing, but why not hammer the girl too?

Anonymous PA August 11, 2015 7:33 AM  

"what made him think going bar hopping in Montreal was a good idea?

Agents provocateur will provoke.

Blogger #0006 Hammer August 11, 2015 7:35 AM  

I wonder what were these white knights' main concern, simply white knighting for the sake of it, or were they pissed that Roosh may actually bang their chicks.

Anonymous VD August 11, 2015 7:37 AM  

why wasn't Roosh's first reaction to punch her right in the mouth? Couldn't he claim she was being the aggressor? I'm thinking given my height, weight & strength, I could have knocked at least 7-8 teeth out before the last of the beer was thrown at me. Granted she could have complained of assault as well, but couldn't Roosh argue self defense?

Because he would have been arrested and she would have gotten off. Because woman. Roosh knew what he was doing.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2015 7:37 AM  

You throw your drink in their face afterwards, and then you promise to buy new ones to the ones standing around, and you hurl their drink as well.

I'm not sure my local police will even accept my charges, but I know they wouldn't investigate it and bring charges.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 7:39 AM  

I'm not trying to be a "real man" here. I agree he did the right thing, but why not hammer the girl too?

Because they'd have locked him up. In the UK, US, and Canada, being caught on tape smacking a girl in self-defense is only marginally better than he said/she said.

Anonymous Baseball Savant August 11, 2015 7:40 AM  

Efffffff

It still doesn't seem right.

Anonymous DJF August 11, 2015 7:41 AM  

To D. Lane (#0067)

I notice that in all the pictures I don’t see the women actually working on the roof, its all men. I guess feminism only goes so far.

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 7:43 AM  

It still doesn't seem right.

It isn't right. But the wise man deals with the world in which he finds himself to be, not the one he wishes exists.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2015 7:47 AM  

Baseball Savant: The beer throwing would be battery. She made contact with his body.

Assault is the fear of imminent physical contact by someone who has the means to do so. If he hit her back, it could be battery also.

JohnR219

Anonymous WhiteKnightLeo #0368 August 11, 2015 7:51 AM  

@Baseball Savant:

I was thinking of something similar. But quite frankly, it's best if you think about it this way: don't punch a woman anywhere that it could be caught on camera unless you would be justified shooting her in the same situation.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 11, 2015 7:55 AM  

Time to fess up, boys: who's had a beer poured on them in likewise fashion?

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 7:56 AM  

"Agents provocateur will provoke. "

By going out in disguise?

no. He wasn't out on a mission.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 7:58 AM  

and yes... for the record... I am victim blaming Roosh. I'm sure the feminists will jump to his defense.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2015 8:11 AM  

As with that tranny on msnbc threatening a scrawny man, I am left with three conclusions:
1. These clowns still have some common sense.
2. When conditions change these clowns won't last long, because
3. Small, medium & large, male humans are the most dangerous animals on planet Earth.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2015 8:15 AM  

Filing the police report was a good idea. Get your version of events out there first because it really does matter which story the cops here first.

Plus, you know damn good and well SJWs always lie and they never hesitate to lie to the police.

The question I have is, how did they find him in the first place?

This dry-gulching was not a spur of the moment thing. They had to work themselves up to it. Given their innate cowardice, you know they did.

On the whole Roosh handled it right, however he probably should have filed criminal sexual conduct against the girl as well.
Always get Roosh handled it right

Blogger M Cephas August 11, 2015 8:17 AM  

@32. VD

Would you consider it a mistake to do anything against any white knights that might get in your face as well?

Blogger Guitar Man August 11, 2015 8:20 AM  

The middle fingers flying around was the funniest part. Roosh looks like Joshua Gomez from the TV show, Chuck.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 8:21 AM  

"The question I have is, how did they find him in the first place? "

Blind luck.

He was dumb enough to go to a bar in Monrtreal... and who-would-of-thought... a feminist activist college girl was there and she recognized him.

He is doing the right thing... but going bar hopping in his situation was epicly stupid and it could've been a lot worse than a beer getting thrown.

Blogger Guitar Man August 11, 2015 8:22 AM  

M Cephas, there's wisdom in weighing your circumstances. I was in plenty of fights in my younger life, but even then I knew when it was more prudent to just walk away. Some of those dudes were twice as large as Roosh. He'd have had his ass handed to him if he responded in kind.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 8:22 AM  

The question I have is, how did they find him in the first place?

According to some of the tweets I've read, they had goons combing the streets for him.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 8:22 AM  

I applaud his actions.

Considering all the trouble he has been given about his trip to Canada I suspect he was "trolling" and right on cue the social justice whores walked right into the trap.

So predictable.

All he needs now is a legal beagle to go after the group without relent or mercy using their own video against them as evidence! Bravo I say, bravo!

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 8:23 AM  

"Would you consider it a mistake to do anything against any white knights that might get in your face as well?"

In Roosh's situation... if he had done anything to anyone... he'd have been the portrayed as the aggressor and the bad guy. Even in a clear cut case of self defense.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 8:24 AM  

"According to some of the tweets I've read, they had goons combing the streets for him."

and he knew that. And yet was still dumb enough to go bar hopping.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 11, 2015 8:25 AM  

Would you consider it a mistake to do anything against any white knights that might get in your face as well?

In today's environment, yes. In simpler, more honest times, a good fist fight solved all kinds of problems, and for problems more serious than you could solve with a good fist fight, there was always the threat of a duel. But since cowards, women and liars have created and weaponized the bureaucracy against those with whom they could not compete, you need to be adroit and capable of defusing the bureaucracy before those methods can ever become effective again. Turn it against the bafoons every time; it's much more effective and much more strategic. Plus, it signals quite strongly that those kinds of cowardly methods are on their way out when they realize that it can be used against them too.

Blogger rumpole5 August 11, 2015 8:27 AM  

The dark side of the PUA, GenX - Millennial experience. Reading Roosh's "police report" reminds me of riding the night shift with the local police 30 years ago as a young prosecutor. We would always converge on a certain bar at the 2 am closing to restore order and do jail transport. This stuff was going on every damn morning in the parking lot. I always recall those days when I read now about cops over-reacting. God only knows what law enforcement must be like now that the cultural, moral and behavioral mean has declined and "diversified" for 3 decades, and been disfigured by PC/SJW considerations.

Blogger Guitar Man August 11, 2015 8:28 AM  

I guess Roosh got the publicity he wanted. He stated he's now more famous in Canada than in the US. If more weak men find him because of this, perhaps that'll be the turning point they need.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 11, 2015 8:29 AM  

She has a piercing between her nose like farm bulls have.

A perfectly apt description, it sounds like.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 8:35 AM  

@47 These are feminists and WKs we're talking about. Not only do they not even register on the Thug-o-meter, hiding from them is poor strategy.

Anonymous a_peraspera August 11, 2015 8:36 AM  

Feminists always use men to do their fighting for them. Note that the women walk up and throw beers in Roosh's face, then quickly turn and walk away.

Their male co-conspirators close ranks and prevent anyone from following the women, then press forward with verbal intimidation, "Get the fuck out!" etc.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 11, 2015 8:44 AM  

And the people that work at the bar, did they not see the ganging up against a client?
What should have been the reaction by someone in the bar that did not know anyone in the incident?

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 8:46 AM  

"According to some of the tweets I've read, they had goons combing the streets for him."

and he knew that. And yet was still dumb enough to go bar hopping.


Poor OpSec.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 8:47 AM  

"These are feminists and WKs we're talking about. Not only do they not even register on the Thug-o-meter, hiding from them is poor strategy."

its not hiding. its the act of not putting yourself in a bad situation. its OpSec.

Blogger M Cephas August 11, 2015 8:48 AM  

@43. Guitar Man

True. He did have a small mob to contend with as it is. In America there is at least the option in some States to legally carry a gun. It would at least stop a mob from following you to your house, as they did with him.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2015 8:48 AM  

Feminists always use men to do their fighting for them. Note that the women walk up and throw beers in Roosh's face, then quickly turn and walk away.

I'm afraid Roosh is going to have to start employing female body guards, to defend him from women.

This was inevitable.

Anonymous RedJack #22 August 11, 2015 8:49 AM  

I agree with Nate. He went into a known hostile area looking for trouble. Now, if he was trying to make a point, well played. If he was trying to just have a quiet drink, no.

I think he got exactly what he was looking for.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 8:51 AM  

I'm afraid Roosh is going to have to start employing female body guards, to defend him from women.

That would make for good entertainment. The female bodyguards could handle the female aggressors and the White Knights could only look on helplessly on account of not being able to lay a hand on a woman.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 8:51 AM  

Nate, Rollo seems to have a similar view in terms of OpSec:

Rollo Tomassi
August 8th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
Well then in the interests of full disclosure then lets also point out that Roosh:
1. Eagerly jumped at the chance to be pilloried on the Dr. Oz SHow after having written a post entitled “Dr. Oz is a Pussy” on RoK just a year prior. After which his play was to excuse his ridiculed performance as having been “ambushed” by Oz.
2. Welcomed a BBC documentary team to his London stop of his tour knowing full well they were doing a hit piece on MRAs and the manosphere proper. Furthermore, he allowed them to interview the attendees at risk to their privacy and potentially their livelihoods without prior warning.
3. Hired a ‘hostess’ for that event who it turns out was a well known feminist blogger working for the HuffPo among many other news sites. It took all of 3 minutes to source her name and background, but apparently this hadn’t occurred to Roosh.
4. Claimed the meeting site in Montreal had been leaked by “only 2 people” who could’ve known – excluding the possibility that Roosh himself ‘leaked’ the location to the protesters he knew would challenge him there.
5. Professed a willingness to go to jail well before he even entered Canada.
6. Has concerned himself more with the fervor and protests that he stoked than the content of a speech intended for 40 men, ostensibly to inform them about the State of Men.
7. Has concerned himself with his own notoriety at the expense of his attendee’s identity, privacy and potentially their employment at any opportunity.
So, now men can make an informed decision when they consider attending one of Roosh’s next ‘lectures’.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 8:55 AM  

Hey now... don't go throwing me in bed with Rollo. Rollo comes off like a butthurt gamma jealous of the attention Roosh gets.

I just think Roosh made a... ahem... POUR decision.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 8:56 AM  

I just think Roosh made a... ahem... POUR decision.

Zing

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 8:57 AM  

"I think he got exactly what he was looking for. "

I don't think so. Why wear a wig?

The fact that you think you need to hide your identity should be the first clue that there may be a flaw in your plan.

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 8:58 AM  

I hope the police take it seriously, because that was clearly set up to have him react and have three or more white knights attack a man who was assaulted/provoked.

It was coordinated.

It was premeditated.

They believed they could get him to react so they could cause severe injury and harm to him and they would've edited the video to only show his reaction.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2015 8:59 AM  

Social violence is normal in some cultures or subcultures but in mainstream US or Canada it's fraught with legal jeopardy. Win the fight, yet go to the cavity search, crowbar motel is worth avoiding in my mind.

Had this happened in Indiana or Texas and Roost been legally armed (precluding drinking or bar-hopping), it still would have been a bad scene, fraught with legal peril.

He asked for trouble, got some and handled it the only way open today.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 9:04 AM  

The fact that you think you need to hide your identity should be the first clue that there may be a flaw in your plan.

This is a valid point. But, given the likely outcomes, I still don't buy it as a bad decision.

Let's assume he foolishly figured going out for a drink was a "safe" decision. The best case scenario is that he has a good time. The worst case scenario is that a feminist creates a scene and he gets a drink poured on him, and maybe a slap across the face.

The correct choice... is to go out for a drink. Not only do you have a good time, you potentially dupe your adversary into making an unforced error.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 9:06 AM  

"Why wear a wig? "

So he can claim he was wearing a disguise.

This is all on the SJW, if this was thought out in advance it is rather brilliant.

And what makes you think he didn't have a few friends standing by? When I'm in a hostile area I sure the hell make sure I have some backup. Simple tactics man.

It smells like a trap and they walked into it.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 9:06 AM  

"Let's assume he foolishly figured going out for a drink was a "safe" decision. The best case scenario is that he has a good time. The worst case scenario is that a feminist creates a scene and he gets a drink poured on him, and maybe a slap across the face."

The problem here is you've mistaken a harmless slap as the worst case scenario. It isn't. By a long shot.

These people are emotionally unbalanced. All it takes is one to cross a line... and in the heat of the moment many others will join.

No mate... the worst case scenario is much much worse than a beer or a slap. It very easily could be real violence.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 9:08 AM  

"And what makes you think he didn't have a few friends standing by? When I'm in a hostile area I sure the hell make sure I have some backup. Simple tactics man."

he did have friends by. Which, in fact, does not make it smarter.

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 9:08 AM  

If he didn't actually confirm he was "Roosh," the group executed their ambush assault on a guy who only fit his description.

Isn't that the definition of a "hate crime?" Targeting someone specifically and solely because of physical or outward appearance.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 9:08 AM  

"He asked for trouble, got some and handled it the only way open today."

I agree with this completely.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 9:13 AM  

"he did have friends by. Which, in fact, does not make it smarter."

If you are trolling you have to stick your neck out. The SJW are now on the hook.

What happens next might just tell the rest of the tale.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 9:13 AM  

No mate... the worst case scenario is much much worse than a beer or a slap. It very easily could be real violence.

Obviously. But the probability of that happening is too small to be a significant worry. If he waltzed into Ferguson with an #AllLivesMatter t-shirt on, you'd absolutely be right. But organized Montreal SJWs? Find me two people they've committed a significant act of violence against.

Blogger IM2L844 August 11, 2015 9:15 AM  

I thought Canadians were supposed to be an excessively polite people?

Anonymous jSinSaTx August 11, 2015 9:15 AM  

This was pretty much what I was getting at in the last thread. Something off putting about Rollo in this.

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 9:17 AM  

Would you consider it a mistake to do anything against any white knights that might get in your face as well?

In Roosh's position as a public figure the authorities are itching to crack down on, certainly. Roosh is using SJW jujitsu against them, and he's doing it brilliantly. He knows that increased exposure is the safest route for him and that he needs to punch back without being seen to do so.

It's not how I would handle it, but I have a different temperament and a different skill set than Roosh. I am intimidating, he is not. I wouldn't be out in a wig looking to ambush my attackers, I would be out flanked by my vilest and scariest minions and openly daring anyone to confront us. Which they would not do.

People talk big, but in person, even women can tell the stone cold fighters and they are much less likely to talk when they can sense that you are ready for them. Keep in mind that it is very, very easy for the trained fighter to incapacitate someone in a humiliating manner that won't get you in any trouble with the police.

That's why one policeman urged me to make sure Ender learned judo. Strikes will get you arrested. Holds and bars won't, even if they are painful and you take them to the ground. Throws, on the other hand, will, unless you're being seriously attacked.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 9:20 AM  

and he knew that. And yet was still dumb enough to go bar hopping

According to the SJW feminist mantra, he should be able to go anywhere he pleases without fear. One thing also, what is Roosh's combat ability?

Did he set them up? I'd have to say emphatically, yes, and it was well played. He didn't have to do a thing. Just be there, and he had every right to be.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 9:21 AM  

I thought Canadians were supposed to be an excessively polite people?

That's why he only ended up covered in beer.

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 9:21 AM  

I thought Canadians were supposed to be an excessively polite people?

They are. She didn't buy cheap beer to throw in his face.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 9:22 AM  

I'm reminded of the kimura on the fat guy in Whataburger... "are you done? ... are you done?"

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 11, 2015 9:23 AM  

Send a link of the video the roofing company?

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 9:23 AM  

"According to the SJW feminist mantra, he should be able to go anywhere he pleases without fear. One thing also, what is Roosh's combat ability? "

yes.

That's what I mean when I said I was victim blaming way back @37

Blogger Thomas Howard August 11, 2015 9:27 AM  

Roosh is doing more to turn the PC tropes on their head short of anyone not named Trump. Beyond simply demonstrating how unhinged they are, he also provides the exemplar of how to turn the machinery against them.

I suppose the correct course of action for the sake of Opsec would have been to sit in a room twiddling his thumbs, but no one has changed the world cowering in a corner. Lasting action requires an element of risk; not everyone is up for that. I'm glad that Roosh is.

Roosh's detractors do come across as jealous, butthurt gammas. I suggest they read through "The Man in the Arena" once more.

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 9:28 AM  

By the way, if you really want to freak people out, carry a few zip-ties in your pocket. The first guy to try shoving you gets taken down in an arm bar and zip-tied with his hands behind his back, which takes all of about five seconds. Then hold him before you and make him kneel by lifting his hands.

That's what I learned from my career as role-playing trainer. Scares the absolute shit out of people even when they know it's a training exercise. The other thing that will make them nearly wet themselves, although you really can't do this on the street, is when you zip them, bag their heads, and then take their feet out from under them. The trick is to let them sort of free-fall for a split-second before you catch their weight with your arm. Even some of the big guys screamed; they think they're going to face-plant without the ability to catch themselves.

I had lunch with the lead trainer a few weeks ago. He has a seriously evil mind.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 9:29 AM  

"I suppose the correct course of action for the sake of Opsec would have been to sit in a room twiddling his thumbs, but no one has changed the world cowering in a corner. Lasting action requires an element of risk; not everyone is up for that. I'm glad that Roosh is. "

/facepalm

No one is saying he should've cancelled the speach. No one is saying he shouldn't have gone to Canada.

The operation itself was justified necessary and good.

Bar hopping afterwards was a bad idea in terms of risk - reward.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 9:37 AM  

Bar hopping afterwards was a bad idea in terms of risk - reward

That's just it, the risk-reward. Could Roosh have been seriously hurt? Of course, but the odds are against that when it comes to SJWs. They're cowards. Wasn't just one guy to intimidate Roosh. he understands the psychology of it, played it to a tee.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 11, 2015 9:37 AM  

On the other hand, his bar hoping brought this video forth. When the SJW talk about peace, love and kumbaya, well, here are their own.
Roosh is better prepared now, I am sure, for whatever he will do next.

Blogger Mom August 11, 2015 9:40 AM  

Well, they certainly proved his point for him, didn't they. First he spoke, next day an object lesson. One might be able to refute his words, but the mob proves his point for him on the 'net.

Anonymous Michael Maier August 11, 2015 9:46 AM  

VD August 11, 2015 9:28 AM By the way, if you really want to freak people out, carry a few zip-ties in your pocket. The first guy to try shoving you gets taken down in an arm bar and zip-tied with his hands behind his back, which takes all of about five seconds. Then hold him before you and make him kneel by lifting his hands.


Yeah, if I ever saw that go down in front of me, I'd probably freak too.

A friend that lives in Italy said men slap fight with open hands, that if they close their fist and hit, it's a felony. Is that right?

Blogger Thomas Howard August 11, 2015 9:51 AM  

Correct, no one said cancel the speech--certainly not me.

As far as the bar hopping, a Monday morning quarterback would say the reward has turned out to be well worth the risk. Facepalm all you want, I'll welcome you when you come around--or not.

That being said, Roosh would probably do well to roll with some heavy hitting dudes from here on out.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 9:52 AM  

"Bar hopping afterwards was a bad idea in terms of risk - reward. "

You don't get it do you Nate? He wasn't bar hopping for the sake of bar hopping, he was trolling to catch some SJW out to prove how enlightened they were and caught them in spades.

I hope he has a honey badger for a lawyer, they should have a field day with this. Don't they have some fairly stupid hate crime stuff on the books in Canada? And there is plenty of items in the press about how he was vilified before hand.

Why if I didn't know better I'd say the man was being repressed your honor! Look these news stories and video! A clear cut case of my clients rights being tramped on! He can't even go out in public without a disguise! Throw the book at them!

Anonymous Stephen J. August 11, 2015 9:56 AM  

@75: "I thought Canadians were supposed to be an excessively polite people?"

The English Canadians are/were. People from Montreal are of Franco-Gallic heritage; 'nuff said.

(Of course, that's the remark of a forty-five-year-old man who's been out of touch with the college-age scene for decades. For all I know the standards I lived by are now a joke in those circles. But in my day we wouldn't have thrown beer at somebody we thought was the kind of person they think Roosh to be; we would just have sneered and left. Not exactly much politer, but not, at least, criminal assault.)

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 9:56 AM  

A friend that lives in Italy said men slap fight with open hands, that if they close their fist and hit, it's a felony. Is that right?

TN law has an open/closed fist distinction.

Blogger JDC August 11, 2015 10:02 AM  

Roosh's beard was too provocative. He was asking for an SJW response. White knights can't handle that much manliness and women get all in a tizzy.

Blogger JDC August 11, 2015 10:03 AM  

TN law has an open/closed fist distinction.

So does San Francisco.

Blogger JAY WILL August 11, 2015 10:03 AM  

Read more of their site. Its a how to guide for non-white men, specifically black, arab, latino to hate fuck white women. Love to hear their private conversations about all those white bitches.

I'll side with a white feminist before I'll side with Roosh' band of merry men. MPC have it right, the "cuck" thing nails it. The Western white man has got soft off the back of dominance, easier life, less war etc etc. What needs to happen is politicians must rise who appeal to normal men. By normal I mean maybe higher delta type men. They will be usually non-faggoty in size, facial shape etc. Have reasonably traditional views. But they will smell a rat, a cuck rat, when they hear "game" "pua" or "mens rights" being mentioned. I'm sure there are millions of them - but they don't do blogs, twatter or facefuck. If you could shine a light on the whole "manosphere" what would you see, in large part a bunch of losers, you can guess where I fall in all that.

Nobody with balls in the UK wants mass non-white immigration. Its the lower T cucks who are all for it, primarily through cowardice rather than principle.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 11, 2015 10:04 AM  

"She has a piercing between her nose like farm bulls have."

Man knows his negs. I know he was telling this to the cop, not to the girl, but I can just hear that in the bar: Hey, I love your nose ring . . . . it's like the ones farm bulls have."

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 10:05 AM  

Read more of their site. Its a how to guide for non-white men, specifically black, arab, latino to hate fuck white women. Love to hear their private conversations about all those white bitches.

WHERE DA WHITE WOMEN AT?

Anonymous Gecko August 11, 2015 10:06 AM  

couldn't Roosh argue self defense?

Not only would it have been a long shot with video evidence, the goons wouldn't have even shared the video then. At least, not the entire exchange.

Does anyone doubt that Roosh would have thrown down the gauntlet in happier times? As Vox pointed out, that's not the world we live in anymore.

Obviously. But the probability of that happening is too small to be a significant worry.

I think you underestimate the jealous rage of the SJWs. Roosh isn't near George Zimmerman hate levels yet, but it seems like he's on the right path.

It's not how I would handle it, but I have a different temperament and a different skill set than Roosh.

Also, Roosh isn't responsible for a family. Keep that in mind, dads.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 11, 2015 10:08 AM  

VD

when you zip them, bag their heads, and then take their feet out from under them.

You're scaring some of the passersby.

But I suppose it's not as bad as those 1am espressos you say you take. Is there no end to your madness?

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 10:09 AM  

A friend that lives in Italy said men slap fight with open hands, that if they close their fist and hit, it's a felony. Is that right?

Maybe, but if so, it's about as well-enforced as every other law in Italy. I've seen plenty of punches thrown on the field and no one has ever been arrested. They are alarmingly touchy, though. I mean, they will put both hands on another guy's cheeks while arguing without ever provoking a punch. I've never had that happen to me, but then, I'm muscular enough that no one ever wants to mess with me. I just don't have problems with people here, perhaps because most of the men have arms like 10-year-old girls.

I'll side with a white feminist before I'll side with Roosh' band of merry men.

Your Gamma is showing again, Jay. Don't argue, just sit back, relect, and reconsider.

Blogger Sad Puppy August 11, 2015 10:15 AM  

@85

I'm going to add this to my bag of tricks!

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:17 AM  

"That's just it, the risk-reward. Could Roosh have been seriously hurt? Of course, but the odds are against that when it comes to SJWs. They're cowards. Wasn't just one guy to intimidate Roosh. he understands the psychology of it, played it to a tee."

This is why people with limited imaginations shouldn't be making their own decisions.

Roosh getting hurt physicially is not the worst outcome either.

Maybe you should try thinking harder. What IS the worst outcome possible from going out there? Think really hard.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 10:18 AM  

"Roosh's beard was too provocative."

Funny you should mention that, I have one as well and it seems to.. take the starch out of some folks at work.

I take advantage of the effect. I can't understand it but note the difference when dealing with some folks. Being a stocky white guy who is bald, has a beard and has arms like Popeye the sailor tends to take the starch out of those who are feeling argumentative in the workplace.

Blogger automatthew August 11, 2015 10:20 AM  

Honeypot.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 11, 2015 10:20 AM  

@102 Yeah, but that in the soccer field. It is OK then.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 10:21 AM  

Nate I find your... cowardice.. off putting.

There is no reward without risk.

Every time I strap in my race car there is a chance I'll die, same for getting on the motorcycle in the summer and getting run down by some idiot driver texting.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 10:23 AM  

Roosh getting hurt physicially is not the worst outcome either.

Maybe you should try thinking harder. What IS the worst outcome possible from going out there? Think really hard.


Enlighten me, Nate.

I see Roosh being Roosh, confronting the SJWs head on. It was a well calculated move, evidenced by the outcome. Only thing I would have done different would have been having one of my guys videoing it.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:27 AM  

"Nate I find your... cowardice.. off putting."

That's the same thing as calling yourself a coward for using a five point harness in your race car.

Be a man Gary. Seatbelts are for cowards.

The point Gary is to take the necessary risks... and to know when the battle is won and not take stupid risks that can put the gains at risk for no reason.

The battle of montreal was already one... and for the sake of a few beers... the gains were risked.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 10:28 AM  

"Only thing I would have done different would have been having one of my guys videoing it. "

How do you know there isn't?

Far better to use the SJW video evidence against them. There are no screams of "they edited the tape!" or cries of "it was a setup, look they had their own camera."

If it was a setup it went flawless and is glorious to behold. Even if it was not a setup it is being taken advantage of as it should be.

Napoleon Bonaparte: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Blogger automatthew August 11, 2015 10:29 AM  

King David: Never interrupt your enemy when he is taking a dump.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:30 AM  

"If it was a setup it went flawless and is glorious to behold. Even if it was not a setup it is being taken advantage of as it should be. "

correct. If this was done deliberately... then it was an extremely risky operation that was pulled off perfectly.

the fact that it went so perfectly is why I don't think it was a deliberate op.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 10:34 AM  

"Seatbelts are for cowards."

ROTFL

Many a man has been killed wearing belts in a race car, your ignorance on the subject is astounding.

I'd be remiss if I did not point out the fact if I was caught not wearing belts during an event my NHRA license would be pulled and I'd be persona non grata at any track.

Do they have a kids table here?

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 10:35 AM  

You're scaring some of the passersby.

It always makes me laugh when people try to claim I'm striking some sort of Internet pose. It's actually much worse than they likely imagine. At the last training course I did a few years ago, one woman wanted to know which of us had separated her from the men in her group; we had all been masked. The rest of the team looked at me, and she said, very sincerely, "you are a very frightening individual". She'd been so scared that when I told her not to move, she didn't even twitch for 20 minutes.

Give me a two zip ties and 10 minutes and I can psychologically crack most pros trained for hot zones. Some of them are quite tough, but you can see it in their eyes when they finally give in. It's kind of funny because afterwards, some of them are just MAD at you even though they know it's a drill you're doing for their own safety.

The most important thing was teaching them to quell any instinct to defy their captors; it's remarkable how defiance in those situations really makes you want to physically HURT them. The experienced guys are compliant like water, it really lowers the psychological heat. We also had to teach some of the women to stop talking when told not to talk, one woman seriously made me wish we had bullets instead of blanks in our guns. After the drill, three of us told her that she would have been dead in the first five minutes, she was that annoying.

"Lady, if a man with a gun at your head tells you to shut up, please, for your own safety and the safety of your team, SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

But I suppose it's not as bad as those 1am espressos you say you take.

1 AM? That's nothing. I had one at 2:30 AM last night. But I am in the final stages of SJWS ALWAYS LIE.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 10:37 AM  

How do you know there isn't?

I don't. But as one is not out there, I'm just musing.

The battle of montreal was already one... and for the sake of a few beers... the gains were risked.

Only one risking anything were the SJWs, and they assumed the risk and now shall reap the rewards. Roosh knew how to handle it. One might say, he went for the jugular. See, Nate, you're leaving the battlefield while there's still more to slay.

Blogger JAY WILL August 11, 2015 10:37 AM  

VD

"Your Gamma is showing again, Jay. Don't argue, just sit back, relect, and reconsider."

Yes fair point. I'm looking for an argument, just find ranting on the internet wakes me up a bit if that makes any sense.

Based on the posts you have made about war, there's no point continually making arbitrary lines in the sand, "friend or foe", you end up in war with everybody eventually. Its much messier than that.

Anonymous Quaestio Omnia August 11, 2015 10:38 AM  

Good for him and I hope that at the very least she gets an criminal record for assault out of this.

But, it looks like Concordia is basically the Berkeley of Canada, a hot bed of aggressive feminist and islamic radicalism with a history of stepping over the line and committing assault without any consequences.

Combined with Canada's famous white knighting police forces, and what is probably going to happen is the police will bring her in, and then she'll apologize and be released. She'll then get back on Twitter and slam Roosh again and claim victory.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 10:38 AM  

Do they have a kids table here?

I am amused

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:39 AM  

"Many a man has been killed wearing belts in a race car, your ignorance on the subject is astounding. "

Gary...

failing to understand an analogy isn't a sign of intelligence... and its not something to brag about.

Anonymous Montreal August 11, 2015 10:43 AM  

Prince Arthur street runs perpendicular to St.Laurent street. The neighborhood is a major hub for weekend partying/drinking for University and College students in Montreal. It is a few blocks away from the McGill student ghetto, and only 2.5km away from Concordia (the two major English universities here). So he was basically in the largest concentration of English speaking SJWs you could find at that time of week.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:45 AM  

"The most important thing was teaching them to quell any instinct to defy their captors; it's remarkable how defiance in those situations really makes you want to physically HURT them. The experienced guys are compliant like water, it really lowers the psychological heat. We also had to teacih some of the women to stop talking when told not to talk, one woman seriously made me wish we had bullets instead of blanks in our guns. After the drill, three of us told her that she would have been dead in the first five minutes, she was that annoying."

every bit of reading and training I have had on this topic is to never allow yourself to be bound, or taken anywhere... ever.

If you have a gun on me and want to tie me up... I'm not going to let that happen.
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How many people were in the group and how many of you were there?

I don't get why people didn't run. I mean if there were 5 of you and 5 of them... then maybe I can see it but in the real world... if you let yourself get tied up by a bad guy... 99% of the time you died horribly.

I know both here and in TN cops are trained to never give up their guns and never allow themselves to be tied or taken anywhere.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 10:47 AM  

"Combined with Canada's famous white knighting police forces, and what is probably going to happen is the police will bring her in, and then she'll apologize and be released."

Which is why he has a lawyer who won't let it go.

Anonymous Stingray August 11, 2015 10:48 AM  

Someone asked upthread how they found Roosh. I don't know the time line and I can't remember where I read this, but the owner of one of the bars he was at took a picture of him and tweeted it. She basically said, he's here everyone. Come and get him.

Blogger Marissa August 11, 2015 10:49 AM  

Read more of their site. Its a how to guide for non-white men, specifically black, arab, latino to hate fuck white women. Love to hear their private conversations about all those white bitches.

You forgot manlet chinks and bindis. Krauser's post of unpopular opinions, in their forum asking for unpopular opinions caused spoon-faced Inca peasant Tuthmosis to sputter how "problematic" it was and even screen-shotted all the users who liked Krauser's post in some kind of beta threat against all those wrong-thinkers. Apparently the red pill only extends to how the sexes are different and no one else.

To paraphrase 28sherman, "I've stopped putting the pussy on a pedestal, buy my $100 e-book about how I spent $3,000 on a flight halfway around the world to screw an HB8."

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 10:49 AM  

"failing to understand an analogy isn't a sign of intelligence... and its not something to brag about."

It was a poor analogy which reflects on you.

Anonymous Stephen J. August 11, 2015 10:50 AM  

"Someone asked upthread how they found Roosh. I don't know the time line and I can't remember where I read this, but the owner of one of the bars he was at took a picture of him and tweeted it. She basically said, he's here everyone. Come and get him."

If true, would he have a case against this woman for incitement?

Blogger automatthew August 11, 2015 10:51 AM  

Juxtaposition:

We also had to teach some of the women to stop talking when told not to talk, one woman seriously made me wish we had bullets instead of blanks in our guns.

...

Yes fair point. I'm looking for an argument, just find ranting on the internet wakes me up a bit if that makes any sense.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 11, 2015 10:51 AM  

VD and Nate,

Echoing some of Nate's questions, I'd like to ask for some additional reading material and how to respond in these sorts of situations in various environments.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:53 AM  

"Echoing some of Nate's questions, I'd like to ask for some additional reading material and how to respond in these sorts of situations in various environments."

outside of idiot organizations like handgun control I don't know of any security curriculum that trains people to submit to bad guys and hope the bad guys decide to be nice.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:56 AM  

I am not doubting Vox's advice for after you're already tied up. Once you're in their power you're in their power. I agree with what Vox is saying.

I am just saying you should never let yourself be in their power. Running is a better option than standing there and letting them tie you up.

Yes... even if they have a gun on you.

Pistols need to hit a very small target to incapacitate you quickly and most people are very very bad with pistols. Odds of a bad guy hitting that small erratically moving area under duress are very very low.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 10:58 AM  

"It was a poor analogy which reflects on you."

and you still don't understand it. because you're not very smart.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 11:00 AM  

I am just saying you should never let yourself be in their power - Nate

Vox was working within a role playing scenario. Why do take any issue with it by speaking the obvious?

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 11:01 AM  

". Why do take any issue with it by speaking the obvious?"

because it isn't obvious. There is a whole industry out there telling people to comply comply comply... and what Vox is saying could be confused with that very easily.

Anonymous Porky August 11, 2015 11:02 AM  

Canada finally waking up to the invasion of middle eastern foreigners.

There is hope.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 11:03 AM  

Canada finally waking up to the invasion of middle eastern foreigners.

There is hope.


Awesome

Anonymous Porky August 11, 2015 11:08 AM  

Diversity + proximity = beer fight.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 11:11 AM  

@134

/facepalm

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 11:11 AM  

every bit of reading and training I have had on this topic is to never allow yourself to be bound, or taken anywhere... ever.

You're not a professional aid worker who is knowingly going unarmed into some of the worst hot zones on the planet. They are being trained not to resist. If they fight back, it could put everyone in their organization in the country at risk. That's part of the purpose, is to teach them to relax and survive. They're not soldiers and I suspect they're mostly being taken for ransom money, so if they don't set off a captor they have a pretty good chance at surviving. It happens often enough that they train for it.

If you have a gun on me and want to tie me up... I'm not going to let that happen.

Then we'll put you down physically first and zip you on the ground. Unless you're a Navy SEAL or your last name is Gracie, you wouldn't have a chance. But given what we were simulating, most likely we would have just shot you and taken the others.

How many people were in the group and how many of you were there?

Usually three or four in the group, and there were four of us. Our leader was a very experienced guy and really knew what he was doing.

Anonymous Gary August 11, 2015 11:12 AM  

"and you still don't understand it. because you're not very smart."

It was dismissed out of hand because it was crap. As someone else already stated, you would leave the field of battle before the fight was over.

Well said I'd say, well said.

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 11:15 AM  

There is a whole industry out there telling people to comply comply comply... and what Vox is saying could be confused with that very easily.

It totally depends upon a) who you are, and b) who they are. If you're a CFO and you're kidnapped in a Latin American country, go along peacefully. The big multinationals all have various prices that they're prepared to pay, it's an industry and nobody benefits from you getting hurt. If you're a pretty girl and the guy is a white psycho with a windowless van or pair of black guys with a rusted old Caddy, fight to the death before you get in it.

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 11:22 AM  

If you're a pretty girl and the guy is a white psycho with a windowless van or pair of black guys with a rusted old Caddy, fight to the death before you get in it.

Charlie Hebdo comes to mind.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 11, 2015 11:27 AM  

VD,

Advice for a home invasion with multiple attackers that have surprised you, initiating first lash of violence to quell resistance, then will tie you up?

I hate to belabor the topic, but I've never known where to read up on this subject.

Anonymous Quaestio Omnia August 11, 2015 11:30 AM  

Which is why he has a lawyer who won't let it go.

What can his lawyer do if the police and prosecutor won't act on his complaint?

Anonymous PA August 11, 2015 11:32 AM  

Home invasion: resist to the death if there is a woman at home. The invaders will feel aggressively dominant especially if you're compliant, they will want to rape her, and they will feel like they have no choice but to kill everyone to prevent a court testimony.

If there are children at home? Use your judgment but I suspect the answer is still the same.

Anonymous Dago August 11, 2015 11:32 AM  

Strikes will get you arrested.
Agreed. Unless you are really good and well positioned to do certain strikes that will not actually be seen or leave a mark. (requires that you also are positione so that video will not catch it, which is not as difficult as it sounds). It is quite possible to incapacitate a person with a very small movement.

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 11:36 AM  

What can his lawyer do if the police and prosecutor won't act on his complaint?

Civil lawsuit.

Blogger rho August 11, 2015 11:38 AM  

They're not soldiers and I suspect they're mostly being taken for ransom money, so if they don't set off a captor they have a pretty good chance at surviving. It happens often enough that they train for it.

The people who go through that training and still travel to whatever shithole necessitated said training are either the most noble people on Earth or stark raving mad.

Anonymous BGS August 11, 2015 11:41 AM  

I am pretty sure one of Roosh's friends had a hidden camera video of this in case it went wrong.

The question I have is, how did they find him in the first place?

From the other Roosh article here from a few days ago there was 30,000 CHORFS out looking for where he would do his speech, but they all used Apple MAPS

Hey now... don't go throwing me in bed with Rollo.

Rooshs bad opsec is like that SJW mom asking her son if he follows vox day.

TN law has an open/closed fist distinction. So does San Francisco. Do they count cat's paw/eagle claw as open or closed?

Its the lower T cucks who are all for it, primarily through cowardice rather than principle.

Surprise surprise jewish organizations representing with their signs, you would think they would try to pass for whites in Calais

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 11:43 AM  

What can his lawyer do if the police and prosecutor won't act on his complaint?

Depends on the reason, of course. If it's simply turning the blind eye to a valid complaint, there are avenues one can pursue, mostly administratively.

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 11:43 AM  

Advice for a home invasion with multiple attackers that have surprised you, initiating first lash of violence to quell resistance, then will tie you up?

In the case of home invasion, fight.

either the most noble people on Earth or stark raving mad

A little of both. They are true believing lefties who are willing to risk everything in order to make a difference and help people. Very good people at heart, but emotion-driven. I have a lot of respect for them, although I have little regard for their grasp of cause-and-effect.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 11:46 AM  

A little of both. They are true believing lefties who are willing to risk everything in order to make a difference and help people. Very good people at heart, but emotion-driven. I have a lot of respect for them, although I have little regard for their grasp of cause-and-effect.

How many of them are Christians?

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 11:47 AM  

How many of them are Christians?

No idea. But for most, I expect their NGO service is their religion.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 11:49 AM  

No idea. But for most, I expect their NGO service is their religion.

Might be different in Europe. Lots of American aid workers tend to be Christians. I've got a good friend doing aid work in extremely dangerous parts of Burma, he's a believer.

Blogger roosh August 11, 2015 11:49 AM  

"Because he would have been arrested and she would have gotten off. Because woman. Roosh knew what he was doing."

Yes I've rehearsed a public attack like this in my mind many times before.

Anonymous BGS August 11, 2015 11:49 AM  

If there are children at home? Use your judgment but I suspect the answer is still the same.

I think its bulletproof mind that says you should run away if kids are home and you cant make headshots. That way the thugs will want to follow you so they don't get IDed

Anonymous cheddarman August 11, 2015 11:54 AM  

135. Porky,

You should give up the white knighting. i know you are better than that. I encourage you to read the biography of Saint Thomas Aquinas and then start praying for Roosh.

sincerely

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 11:57 AM  

Yes I've rehearsed a public attack like this in my mind many times before.

Gorilla visualization. Mike Cernovich would approve. Seriously, though, it does help one remain calm and focused.

Anonymous Giuseppe August 11, 2015 11:58 AM  

VD,
Mi interesserebbe essere la "vittima" in quella situazione. Se gli allenatori non sanno chi sono e sono solo in quattro potrebbe essere utile a loro quanto a me. E' in Italia il posto?

Anonymous Horsewithnonick August 11, 2015 11:58 AM  

In fact, I am wondering, with the amount of manpower fielded just to throw beer in Roosh's face, if that was the original plan, or if cooler heads talked Jennifer out of something much more physical.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 12:00 PM  

Gorilla visualization. Mike Cernovich would approve. Seriously, though, it does help one remain calm and focused.

Are you planning on writing a review? Interested to read your thoughts on it.

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 12:03 PM  

@159 Spedirmi un email, non vorrei parlare publicamente cosi.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 11, 2015 12:11 PM  

Automatthew earns a spot on the next Cruelty Artist Awards ballot with "Juxtaposition"

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 12:11 PM  

"Usually three or four in the group, and there were four of us. Our leader was a very experienced guy and really knew what he was doing."

I see. In that kind of set up where the attackers can match up one on one you're really hosed. The only way to win is not to play.

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 12:14 PM  

"A little of both. They are true believing lefties who are willing to risk everything in order to make a difference and help people. Very good people at heart, but emotion-driven. I have a lot of respect for them, although I have little regard for their grasp of cause-and-effect."

I cannot respect someone based on intentions. I don't care about intentions. I'm a results guy.. and the results are... these people make the world worse... not better.

Anonymous Paul August 11, 2015 12:14 PM  

Lol, that was funny. Thanks for posting that vid.

God what a tool, that roosh. He thought wearing a wig would be enough of a disguise to go out bar hopping in montreal?

I thought his whole shtick is that he can't get girls in wealthy advanced countries but has to become a "romance tourist" to get laid. Thats how he became the masthead and leader of gamma men - by relating to them as one of them.

What made him think he could get pretty girls in montral? His whole success with gammas is based on acknowledging that he is a gamma who cannot get girls in normal countries.

No, I smell a set up. Roosh has the vitrue of all weak men - cunning. He may not be strong, capable, or good with women, but he is almost a genius at parlaying his gamma nature into exploitation of the insecurities of other gamma men.

I am quite sure the wig was a device to draw attention rather than deflect it, and that roosh knew quite well that his hotel was known and feminists would be on the lookout in nearby bars.

And so we have an unexpected "altercation". Gammas eat this shit up.

Blogger Rabbi B August 11, 2015 12:15 PM  

"She has a piercing between her nose like farm bulls have."

Ha. Gold ring in a pig's snout came to mind.

Would spitting in her face have been considered assault? It's not striking and doesn't leave a mark. Might have really escalated things though. Nothing shows more contempt than a little saliva right between the eyes.

"In fact, I am wondering, with the amount of manpower fielded just to throw beer in Roosh's face, if that was the original plan, or if cooler heads talked Jennifer out of something much more physical."

Without the "manpower" I doubt any beer-throwing would have occurred. It looks like they knew what they were doing, even if it was a spur-of-the-moment plan.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 11, 2015 12:15 PM  

Unless you are really good and well positioned to do certain strikes that will not actually be seen or leave a mark. (requires that you also are positione so that video will not catch it, which is not as difficult as it sounds).

Not as difficult as it sounds? When you don't know where all of the cameras are? Interesting...

Anonymous Horsewithnonick August 11, 2015 12:17 PM  

He gets lucky, then gets arrested on he-said/she-said rape charges. The SJW-infested court system takes her side, and Roosh goes away.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 11, 2015 12:19 PM  

I cannot respect someone based on intentions. I don't care about intentions. I'm a results guy.. and the results are... these people make the world worse... not better.

I agree with Nate, but I have to say the rest of us deserve some criticism for not finding more productive uses for these people's energy and ambition. They're useful idiots, As a strategic objective, we should learn how to find uses for them ourselves.

Anonymous Brother Thomas August 11, 2015 12:29 PM  

"I did not know them beforehand."

The first mistake.

"She has a piercing between her nose like farm bulls have."

The second mistake.

"[The men] asked me to come outside to have a drink with them."

The third mistake.

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 12:30 PM  



No, I think it was orchestrated for roosh to escalate to person-on-person assault. She or her friend would collapse and scream is pain. White knights arrive to avenge the honor of the mortally wounded flower.

Video clipped.

SJW circulated to start banging the drum of, "Do you associate with a known woman beater?!?!" to get other men to disavow or walk back rhetoric.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 12:37 PM  

No, I think it was orchestrated for roosh to escalate to person-on-person assault.

Fair chance, but as SJWs do, they lie, even to themselves. They are oblivious to the nature of the game. No matter what they did, Roosh was holding the winning hand. Do nothing and they look impotent in his presence. Do what they did and expose their hypocrisy. Roosh was win-win all the way.

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 12:39 PM  

roosh: SJWs, you magnificent bastards, I read your book!

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 12:44 PM  

In that kind of set up where the attackers can match up one on one you're really hosed.

It was even worse. They had no idea the attack was coming or what the exercise was. We ambushed their vehicle when stopped. The only thing trying to fight would have done was get them all shot.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 12:45 PM  

One other thing. It wasn't enough to throw a beer and walk away, it had to be video'd and uploaded so fast. The tweets, too. SJWs need to announce to the world, seek approval. Perhapa, when it comes to them, no camera needed on your part... they'll do it... they have to.

Anonymous Quaestio Omnia August 11, 2015 12:51 PM  

Roosh:

So, does it feel like the Montreal police are taking your complaint seriously? Are you considering any civil suits?

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 1:26 PM  

"The only thing trying to fight would have done was get them all shot."

I see the issue. being an american my threat radar is so differently attuned that it is totally counter productive to this kind of situation.

well... I say that... but attempting to ambush my vehicle when stopped would be a very bad idea.

Blogger SirHamster (#201) August 11, 2015 2:37 PM  

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Blogger SirHamster (#201) August 11, 2015 2:38 PM  

@115, VD:
It always makes me laugh when people try to claim I'm striking some sort of Internet pose. It's actually much worse than they likely imagine. At the last training course I did a few years ago [...]

I would like to hear more about this sort of training in a future Brainstorm.

Anonymous BGS August 11, 2015 2:42 PM  

cannot respect someone based on intentions. I don't care about intentions. I'm a results guy.. and the results are... these people make the world worse"emotion-driven....I have little regard for their grasp of cause-and-effect"

Vox Please leave copies of this book out for people wanting to go to Africa to inflict more Africans on the world. It should help their emotions realize how aid to Africa is a scam with less than 5% of money given doing what is should.

for not finding more productive uses for these people's energy and ambition. They're useful idiots

There is a charity that gives free medical care for white people in Appalachia

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Caravan-Humanitarian-HUMANITARIAN-Aug-30-11/dp/B007SLVN3W/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1439318043&sr=1-3&keywords=the+crisis+caravan
"Each year governments spend $120 billion on humanitarian and development aid, but an average of 60 percent never leaves the donor countries. It’s called “phantom aid,” and is spent on salaries, conferences, publicity, transportation, and contracts for Western businesses that make or deliver aid supplies. Miss Polman says the Americans are the worst offenders; an estimated 70 to 80 percent is phantom aid.

The outright stealing begins after supplies and money reach the target country. "

Anonymous Stickwick August 11, 2015 2:46 PM  

@115, Vox: We also had to teach some of the women to stop talking when told not to talk, one woman seriously made me wish we had bullets instead of blanks in our guns. After the drill, three of us told her that she would have been dead in the first five minutes, she was that annoying.

I was watching a movie in which a woman was grabbed by captors, and she wouldn't stop shrieking and yakking. I'm a very gentle person, but after about 30 seconds of this, I was ready to kill her myself. It was extremely agitating. There must be something about a shrill woman's voice that activates aggression in a person.

Blogger M Cephas August 11, 2015 3:10 PM  

@VD

Putting someone to sleep, or getting them in an arm bar, would definitely be a better option than knocking them out. I just have to take the time to actually learn either BJJ or Judo.

I am 6'2 and over 200 lbs, so I'm more intimidating than Roosh at least. But I don't think I have to worry about any white knights any time soon.

Anonymous Stickwick August 11, 2015 3:38 PM  

@183, M Cephas: Putting someone to sleep, or getting them in an arm bar, would definitely be a better option than knocking them out.

My powerlifting coach, who was enormous, was also a bouncer, and he disdained punching. It's bad for your knuckles, and it's bad PR for the bar. Instead, he'd employ a number of different methods for subduing rowdy patrons, including choke-outs and arm-bars. A favorite is what he called "pining" -- he'd pick a guy up by the back of his shirt and the back of his pants so that his body was parallel to the ground, and then fling him into a pine tree. By the time the guy scrambled out of the tree, all the fight was out of him; plus, he was usually pretty humiliated. For women, he'd employ the belly-buck. He had kind of a big beer belly, which was surprisingly hard. When a woman would try to rush him, he'd bounce her off his beer gut; in accordance with the conservation laws of physics, the much smaller woman would go flying. It was comical, and he never got any heat for laying a hand on a woman.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) August 11, 2015 3:40 PM  

Bar hopping afterwards was a bad idea in terms of risk - reward.
It all depends on what your thresholds are.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) August 11, 2015 3:50 PM  

But I am in the final stages of SJWS ALWAYS LIE.
May the cruelty never end.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) August 11, 2015 3:55 PM  

If you have a gun on me and want to tie me up... I'm not going to let that happen.
Recall Bane's story about being thrown in the dumpster in reform school. Enough people can overpower anyone. Bane learned a lesson there and he cared enough about us to pass it on. Or at least try to.

Blogger VD August 11, 2015 4:14 PM  

well... I say that... but attempting to ambush my vehicle when stopped would be a very bad idea.

We had one in front, one in back, and two hidden in the trees on the sides. Trust me, the leader knew what he was doing. He had decades of field work. You MIGHT get one, but we'd take out everyone in the car.

Anonymous Soga August 11, 2015 4:20 PM  

I expect we should hear very soon that Nate drives an armored tank with no windows with guns pointing out in every possible direction a bullet could travel.

Oh, and I'm sure his tank also has anti-air missile launchers, you know, just in case these eeeeeevil!!! terrorists happen to hijack a plane to crash on him.

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 4:30 PM  

Wonder what a passenger ejection seat in the Porsche would cost?

Blogger JCclimber August 11, 2015 6:44 PM  

I have a number of friends, relatives, and family friends who do short term and long term missionary work in some of the worst spots in the world.

They rarely seem to be the target of armed gunmen, although it has happened. What their greater enemy is demon possession of locals, and the fact that even being a christian missionary can be a death sentence in some areas. What is amazing is that many of them start their families and raise their children in those places.

The upshot is that the locals sense over time that the missionaries have made a life commitment to helping them, live or die. There are also a number of stories of divine intervention, which are usually low key, non-flashy types of things where only those who are watching carefully will know that it was not mere coincidence that all the complex moving parts "just happened" to come together.

In my opinion, those people who are doing these things on their own hook, and not because God has lead them in this direction, are effectively insane. Their mental picture of the world is seriously flawed.

My friends who are doing this are going in wide awake, fully aware of who they will be facing on the daily battlefield, and are relying on God each day, each hour, for protection and guidance. And accepting that they, and their families, may join the ranks of the victorious fallen in the ongoing war.

Blogger JCclimber August 11, 2015 6:52 PM  

I despise the non-christian NGOs, the very vast majority of whom are exploiters of the less fortunate. Despicable, despoilers, spawns of Satan, they are some of his front line troops who are out there perpetuating injustice, enabling rape if not actively engaging in it themselves, creating systems of starvation, living high on the hog, and rubbing the downtrodden further into the muck.

They create a horrible perception of the western world, and sow fear, hatred and distrust of the genuine charitable movements and make it MUCH harder for God's work to move forward.

That said, I've unfortunately found that even many Christian aid organizations are just as bad as the secular NGOs, and in some cases are even worse because of the stain they leave on the reputation of God's cause. And they slander and sometimes actively sabotage other Christian organizations who they feel are threatening their little cushy kingdoms.

Blogger JCclimber August 11, 2015 7:09 PM  

Either Roosh was trolling for this, or he really is just actively foolish and cannot stop himself from going out looking to get laid even in enemy territory.

I suspect he wanted this to happen. And he is black knighting.

Whatever his motivation, I support him and hope that he is successful. I think it is excellent black knighting, I love the touch of describing her nose ring as a farm bull. That is now part of the public record, and potentially every internet search of her criminal record in the future will have that denigrating description attached to her appearance.

It has to be vinegar to her soul, although she may be stridently claiming otherwise in the near future. I bet she does what she can to keep this as far as possible out of the public eye.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 11, 2015 7:47 PM  

I expect we should hear very soon that Nate drives an armored tank

I hacked my pickup so I could mount flamethrowers on all four sides.

Wait, that was in Autoduel.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 11, 2015 8:25 PM  

“Whatever his motivation, I support him and hope that he is successful. I think it is excellent black knighting, I love the touch of describing her nose ring as a farm bull.”

On one hand, the women are vulgar and have it coming to them should Roosh pursue it through the legal system. On the other hand, Roosh reaps what he sows as a promoter of anti-Christian masculinity.

Anonymous Cuca Culpa August 11, 2015 9:35 PM  

@41

This dry-gulching was not a spur of the moment thing. They had to work themselves up to it. Given their innate cowardice, you know they did.

Laurentide most likely. Dutch courage.

Have you noticed that most of them have severe addiction issues? The SJWs I once knew in Toronto (slutwalkers, the #witopoli characters, etc) were all drunks into cocaine. I'm a Friend of Bill now, but back then they were able to keep up for the most part. Hipsters. Must be that shitty beer from Blue Velvet they keep ordering.

Anonymous Cuca Culpa August 11, 2015 9:37 PM  

Oh, and this should be somewhere in the rules: SJWs tend to use substances so they can stand to be around one another.

Anonymous Cuca Culpa August 11, 2015 9:43 PM  

Some of those dudes were twice as large as Roosh. He'd have had his ass handed to him if he responded in kind.

Has Roosh studied martial arts? I have a feeling he has.

I've seen 5' 1" guys who could put down Andre the Giant.

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