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Wednesday, August 12, 2015

"The man Canada couldn't keep out"

The Canadian media is developing a grudging new respect for RooshV:
The man Canada couldn’t keep out: ‘Pickup artist’ unbowed despite public condemnation over lectures

For a man fuelled by controversy, the self-proclaimed “pickup artist” known as Roosh V doesn’t like talking to the media — “I’m a bit squeezed for time,” he said Tuesday, politely rebuffing requests for comment on public condemnation that his speaking engagements in Canada aroused.

“I have my own media channels. It’s not worth my time to talk to reporters,” he said in an email to the National Post. To a Toronto radio station he was more dismissive: “Bell Media can go to hell.”

Daryush Valizadeh, who goes by the name Roosh V and writes about convincing women to have sex, says he gave his lecture in Montreal to a group of 34 in a secret location, travelling in disguise, before he was spotted and chased out of a restaurant and down the street by a small, angry mob on Saturday.

In anticipation of his scheduled appearance in Toronto on Saturday, Toronto mayor John Tory denounced him and his views as a form of hate speech. “While free speech is the law in this country, promoting violence against women is wrong,” Tory tweeted. “I am calling on those hosting this tour to do the right thing — cancel this show.”

    We won. Men won. Free speech won. Here's my Montreal victory speech:
    Roosh (@rooshv) August 09, 2015

Toronto and Montreal were the two Canadian dates on a tour his website says also includes Berlin, London, Washington D.C., and New York City. In the face of it all, the American blogger appears unbowed, lampooning his detractors in social media for being ineffective and hysterical.
This is what happens when you don't back down and you don't flinch in front of the media heat. Roosh is now "the man Canada couldn't keep out". I am now "the most hated man in science fiction". From National Post to Newsweek, from Le Monde to a media outlet that shall remain nameless until the piece runs, the international media is no longer content to let our enemies talk about us, they are asking us to speak directly for ourselves.

That doesn't happen when you cringe, and apologize, and recant. That doesn't happen when you flee from criticism like a coward. You have to earn your right to be heard, because no one is going to take you seriously if you don't stand by what you have said in the face of disapproval. It is only those without character who can expect to avoid repeated attempts to assassinate it.

Milo has some thoughts on the failed Canadian attempt to deny Roosh a platform:
No-platforming, a favourite tactic of the progressive left, denies us, the public, the ability to interrogate a speaker ourselves. It’s not only illiberal and profoundly anti-intellectual but it can create a halo of martyrdom around people who are already pushing at an open door – such as men’s rights activists, who rightly point to dozens of structural inequalities in the way men are spoken about and treated in today’s uber-progressive societies.
Of course, no-platforming is a dangerous strategy, because if the wrong sort of man is no-platformed, he will simply go off and build a new platform, one over which those who previously denied him a platform will not only lack control but even a modicum of influence.

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Anonymous Stingray August 12, 2015 8:06 AM  

writes about convincing women to have sex

Remarkably toned down but this is still hilarious.

Blogger Student in Blue August 12, 2015 8:10 AM  

Convincing women to have sex = hate speech, says John Tory.

Slutwalkers and hippies are now guilty of hate speech.

Blogger VFM bot #188 August 12, 2015 8:11 AM  

Okay, okay, all understood. Just one thing: When, how, and under what circumstances should we apologize?

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 8:17 AM  

Okay, okay, all understood. Just one thing: When, how, and under what circumstances should we apologize?

If an angel shows up in your living room and gives you a direct command from God.

Anonymous Stingray August 12, 2015 8:17 AM  

When, how, and under what circumstances should we apologize?

When, by your own standards, you have done something wrong.

How? "I'm sorry"

Done.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 12, 2015 8:18 AM  

Convincing women to have sex

As opposed to NOT convincing them to have The Sex beforehand? Oh my!

Are they advocating...

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 8:20 AM  

Is Canada the ultimate Gamma Nation? Or is that Sweden?

Blogger Guitar Man August 12, 2015 8:42 AM  

I don't know, Josh, but what is the most gamma state? Massachusetts? Rhode Island, perhaps, though that state has a lot of Italians.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 8:44 AM  

Josh, but what is the most gamma state?

Minnesota

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 8:47 AM  

To support my claim, let me quote noted Minnesotan and dick and poop joke auteur (and chopped champion) Drew Magary:

As always, this is what Minnesotans deserve. It is the Soccer Mom state. Minnesota is one giant Toyota Sequoia with happy stick figures on the back windshield, cutting you off at every highway merge. People there only vote Democrat to appear sensitive and open-minded, despite having hearts blacker than Scrooge himself. If you are from Iowa, you are treated like an undocumented immigrant if you walk into Minnesota. This state in a frozen, undead wasteland, and yet people there regard the rest of the world with complete and utter disdain. It’s never made sense to me, and it never will. It is a hateful place, full of Stepford wives and mute husbands. You’ll find more personality in a crate of pickled fish.

And they SUCK at being Vikings fans. The state is half Packers fans because Minnesotans are all front-running assholes. This is a young, likeable team, but I promise you that most Vikings fans won’t show up until the playoffs, and they’ll STILL have Favre jerseys on. I’m nauseous just thinking about it. Fuck that state. We gave the world Garrison Keillor AND Jonathan Franzen. We are ground zero for boring white culture. I’m never going back.

Blogger Guitar Man August 12, 2015 8:47 AM  

@9, can't argue with that.

Blogger Guitar Man August 12, 2015 8:49 AM  

At least they gave us A Prairie Home Companion.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 12, 2015 8:50 AM  

Roosh is a prime example of the failure of the American immigration system. In a sane world he would be buggering goats on the Armenian/Iranian border.

Anonymous PaulR #0393 August 12, 2015 8:51 AM  

SJWs always project. Convincing a woman to have sex with a SJW would be a hate crime, so...

#saveourwomen

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 8:51 AM  

At least they gave us A Prairie Home Companion.

I can't believe I'm about to type this.

In defense of MA, at least they gave us Cah Tawk

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 8:53 AM  

Roosh is a prime example of the failure of the American immigration system. In a sane world he would be buggering goats on the Armenian/Iranian border.

He's a college graduate who isn't on welfare and is an entrepreneur. Also, he hasn't gone Aloha Snackbar on anyone.

Would that all our immigrants be such failures.

Anonymous Dirtnapninja August 12, 2015 8:55 AM  

Courage is contagious.

Blogger Guitar Man August 12, 2015 8:57 AM  

OUAH FAIH CITY.

Anonymous Tawmmy From Quinzee August 12, 2015 9:00 AM  

OWAH PUBLIC RADIO SHOWS AH MOAH GRITTY THAN YOUAH PUBLIC RADIO SHOWS! CLICK AND CLACK AH WICKED SMAHT AND WICKED FUNNY!

Anonymous Geoff August 12, 2015 9:01 AM  

The SJWs are talking about photographing everyone who attends Roosh's event in TO. The pics will then be posted online for shaming purposes, I guess.

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 9:01 AM  

"In defense of MA, at least they gave us Cah Tawk"

I know you're being facetious... but we have to have some law around here. Freedom of speech and all... but there are things you just don't type into a comment box here.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:02 AM  

The SJWs are talking about photographing everyone who attends Roosh's event in TO. The pics will then be posted online for shaming purposes, I guess.

I propose countering with photographing everyone who enters a Planned Parenthood clinic and posting those pics online.

Blogger VD August 12, 2015 9:09 AM  

Okay, okay, all understood. Just one thing: When, how, and under what circumstances should we apologize?

To SJWs? Never, never, and never.

When, by your own standards, you have done something wrong.

No, no, NO. That's exactly the idiocy that keeps rendering people vulnerable SJWs. What part of YOU NEVER FUCKING APOLOGIZE to SJWs is so damn hard to understand? Have you been paying any attention at all?

Every moron under SJW attack makes the same mistake. "Well, I'm not apologizing because they are demanding it, I'm apologizing because I genuinely feel I should have behaved differently." And then they're shocked when their apology is used as an indictment to justify their disemployment or whatever.

You do not EVER apologize to SJWs. Is that clear?

Anonymous Steve August 12, 2015 9:09 AM  

VFM Bot #188 - We should apologise often and early.

Anonymous Stingray August 12, 2015 9:12 AM  

Vox,

I wasn't talking about apologizing to SJW's because it is imminently clear that you NEVER DO THAT.

I thought his question was a general one because men ask it all the time.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:12 AM  

Every moron under SJW attack makes the same mistake. "Well, I'm not apologizing because they are demanding it, I'm apologizing because I genuinely feel I should have behaved differently." And then they're shocked when their apology is used as an indictment to justify their disemployment or whatever.

It's exactly like every police procedural where they convince the suspect to confess and accept a plea bargain, and once they get the confession, they turn around and use it as evidence to convict the suspect.

There's a masterful example of this in True Detective season one.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler August 12, 2015 9:13 AM  

Well, when does a Christian support or defend fornicators? What Roosh needs is to be whipped and deported. He is not an Anglo-Saxon. He is not a Christian. He is not a part of Western Culture or Civilization. He, along with the Kardasians, needs to be returned to Armenia.

"Game" is not what a traditional orthodox Christian man engages in. Self-control is a Virtue and this man has none of that. He is a reprobate. Christian praise only belongs to those that exhibit Virtue.

Anonymous Soga August 12, 2015 9:16 AM  

I propose countering with photographing everyone who enters a Planned Parenthood clinic and posting those pics online.

Talk to Abolish Human Abortion. It's a nation-wide grassroots organization/movement on Facebook that really, really hates PP. They would be more than pleased to do that.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:17 AM  

Wheeler, your strategy would turn every single engagement in the culture war into Thermopylae.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 9:19 AM  

Roosh is a prime example of the failure of the American immigration system. In a sane world he would be buggering goats on the Armenian/Iranian border.

Indeed. He tweets about thanking the Jews for changing US immigration policy that allowed his filth in the first place. Ain't no way any of the Revolutionaries would want his mind here.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:20 AM  

He tweets about thanking the Jews for changing US immigration policy that allowed his filth in the first place.

Can you link to that tweet?

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 9:22 AM  

Shut up Wheeler.

Blogger Jakeithus August 12, 2015 9:23 AM  

Seeing all the stories in Canadian media on this, most of it not negative (who the heck follows the CBC) has been fantastic. My buddies SjW wife has been posting about signing the petition, so it looks good on them having lost so thoroughly. It's a nice reminder that while my wife might be somewhat disgusted by Roosh, she's not a totalitarian SJW weirdo, so be thankful for that and to feel sorry for the guys who put up with that.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:23 AM  

Also, for the window lickers and the ones who can't lick the windows because of their helmets: Armenians are LITERALLY Caucasians.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 12, 2015 9:26 AM  

"Game" is not what a traditional orthodox Christian man engages in.

Because being a model beta (as prescribed by the Bible) isn't game.

Anonymous Steve August 12, 2015 9:27 AM  

Or we could let Nixon apologise for us.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:28 AM  

Because being a model beta (as prescribed by the Bible) isn't game.

Where does the Bible prescribe this?

Chapter and verse, please.

OpenID entropyismygod August 12, 2015 9:30 AM  

There is no enemy to my right.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 9:30 AM  

Okay, okay, all understood. Just one thing: When, how, and under what circumstances should we apologize?

When it's not to an SJW.

Blogger JartStar August 12, 2015 9:30 AM  

WLW, I don't care if the guy next to me in the foxhole just finished visiting the town brothel so long as he's shooting at the enemy. I'll confront him about his sin after the battle dies down a little, but not when the bullets are whizzing by.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 12, 2015 9:30 AM  

Every moron under SJW attack makes the same mistake. "Well, I'm not apologizing because they are demanding it, I'm apologizing because I genuinely feel I should have behaved differently." And then they're shocked when their apology is used as an indictment to justify their disemployment or whatever.

You are going to have to fight Mama's potty training. "Sweetie you hurt their feelings and upset them. You have to apologize now. It's only fair."

They are not interested in playing "fair." They want to use "fair," to destroy you. It is instinctive for them at this point.

So don't apologize. They know they are fighting a culture war. Time to recognize that you are too. Apologizing will not preserve our culture, no matter what your Mama thinks.

On Death Ground, FIGHT -- Sun Tzu

Chia Lin's commentary on Sun Tzu: "if you fight with all your might, there is a chance of life; where as death is certain if you cling to your corner.

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 9:31 AM  

I wonder who else should be whipped and deported? liars? gossips? Those who dress immodestly?

we'll be left with a nation of 11 oh so very pious assholes.

Blogger VD August 12, 2015 9:32 AM  

Well, when does a Christian support or defend fornicators?

When they take a stand for freedom. Wheeler, shut up. The reason you are such a fucking useless proponent of your own cause is that like a stupid moderate, you would much rather attack allies than enemies.

You are a HORRIBLE strategist. I mean, literally the worst I have ever seen. So stop trying to tell your superiors how they should be failing.

Blogger VD August 12, 2015 9:33 AM  

I thought his question was a general one because men ask it all the time.

Context, Stingray.

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 9:35 AM  

"There is no enemy to my right."

this is really stupid rhetoric... because by definition...you are to the left of those on your right.

Anonymous Stingray August 12, 2015 9:39 AM  

Context, Stingray.

Yes. Apologies.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 August 12, 2015 9:45 AM  

This is useful because ALL of us will be attacked in this manner to one degree or another as this war heats up. I would only add to never apologize to SJWs, the instruction to never acquiesce to their gambit of "at least we can agree that...". Hell no, we cannot agree you sniveling carbuncle on the north end of a south-bound polecat.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 August 12, 2015 9:46 AM  

Excuse me, did Josh just defend Massachusetts?

Blogger darkdoc August 12, 2015 9:47 AM  

Because being a model beta (as prescribed by the Bible) isn't game.

The bible tells us to act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with God. Sadly, too many Chriastians have little idea what justice is or how to administer it, don't know when to be merciful, and have absolutely bizarre concepts of humility (it is NOT being beta). Look at the church today for evidence of how screwed up this has become and why they are so ineffective.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 9:48 AM  

this is really stupid rhetoric... because by definition...you are to the left of those on your right.

There is no enemy to my right... only role models?

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler August 12, 2015 9:48 AM  

There are nine ways to commit sin. Flattery and praise of a sinner makes one just as guilty of the sin as the perpetrator. "My superiors"? I don't think so, if "my superiors" are so ignorant of ethics and Morality. Roosh shouldn't have our attention whatsoever and everyone that praises him or joins himself with Roosh is participating in Fornication.

Life is NOT about Freedom. It is about Righteousness. God praises the Righteous. It is about being Righteous in the sight of God.

My duty is to God. Your fidelity is to the feminine ideology of Freedom. The statue of Liberty is a female persona. So your hypocrisy shows forth. You claim to be "for males" but the basis of your foundation of "freedom" shows the feminine basis of your ideology.

"To speak the Truth at all times" is a Command from the Bible. On a Protestant influenced website, and I have to point that out?

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 9:48 AM  

"Excuse me, did Josh just defend Massachusetts? "

it was ill-conceived but well-intentioned sarcasm. Execution was considered but its likely now will just whip and deport him

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 9:51 AM  

Wheeler... your flatulence is no way to honor God. You're the idiot that would lecture Jesus for associating with the wrong people.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 9:54 AM  

There are nine ways to commit sin. Flattery and praise of a sinner makes one just as guilty of the sin as the perpetrator. "My superiors"? I don't think so, if "my superiors" are so ignorant of ethics and Morality. Roosh shouldn't have our attention whatsoever and everyone that praises him or joins himself with Roosh is participating in Fornication.

Quit making up doctrine. You're not a prophet, and you don't have that authority.

Life is NOT about Freedom. It is about Righteousness. God praises the Righteous. It is about being Righteous in the sight of God.

Wrong. Without freedom, there is no righteousness, because we cannot choose it of our own free will.

My duty is to God. Your fidelity is to the feminine ideology of Freedom. The statue of Liberty is a female persona. So your hypocrisy shows forth. You claim to be "for males" but the basis of your foundation of "freedom" shows the feminine basis of your ideology.

Freedom is a feminine ideology because... the Statue of Liberty is of a woman? Did you really just commit yourself to something that stupid?

"To speak the Truth at all times" is a Command from the Bible. On a Protestant influenced website, and I have to point that out?

You're not talking about speaking the truth. Speaking the truth has nothing to do with the scenario you're going on about. And ironically, if you think you are, you're either lying to us or to yourself.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:54 AM  

Roosh shouldn't have our attention whatsoever and everyone that praises him or joins himself with Roosh is participating in Fornication.

Was Jesus participating in adultery when he refused to stone the woman caught in adultery?

Blogger Quadko August 12, 2015 9:55 AM  

@20: photographing everyone who attends Roosh's event

That couldn't backfire: Ladies, here are the alpha men looking to have sex with you; stay away, stick with us, and we'll protect you. - Wait, no, don't go looking for them!

Blogger Mint August 12, 2015 9:56 AM  

I will never look at Roosh V the same again. Knowing his real name now, 'Roosh' will forever reminding me of Darius the Mede, the king underwhich Daniel served and also the Persian Darius mentioned by Hagai, Zakaria, Ezra and Nehemia.

It gives a new meaning to 'The return of kings' in my mind.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:57 AM  

Wheeler:

"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."

2 Cor 3:17

Anonymous Harsh August 12, 2015 9:58 AM  

My duty is to God. Your fidelity is to the feminine ideology of Freedom. The statue of Liberty is a female persona. So your hypocrisy shows forth. You claim to be "for males" but the basis of your foundation of "freedom" shows the feminine basis of your ideology.

I thought you were a chick.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 9:59 AM  

I thought you were a chick.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 12, 2015 9:59 AM  

Chapter and verse, please.

See: 1 Corinthians 7: 1-11, Ephesians 5: 24-28

In the context of game and the church, the Biblical take as I understand it is to be a strong beta. When you go looking for a wife (i.e. a sexual relationship) within this context, not fornicating, having a strong commitment to Christ, good job/prospects, etc. function as beta qualifiers. Your ability to provide and protect while remaining steadfast in faith determine your value.

This is opposed to the alpha, who is inclined to do the opposite of what's recommended by scripture (pump & dump, divorce for reasons unrelated to infidelity, engage in adultery, etc.).

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 10:01 AM  

ok ladies... Bible Game is not the topic... let it go.

Blogger The Original Hermit August 12, 2015 10:01 AM  

Apologizing to an SJW:
I'm sorry you're a thin-skinned, emotionally incontinent asshole.
I'm sorry you didn't have a proper relationship with your father.
I'm sorry you have to pay women to have sex with you, and that you can't afford a good one.

Anonymous cheddarman August 12, 2015 10:04 AM  

# 13 you got it wrong, sir. Dont shoot your allies. People like Roosh are helping men take the red pill of truth. He is essentially recruitng allies for us. I say that as a former churchian white knight pedestalizer of women.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 August 12, 2015 10:06 AM  

Proverbs 1:20
Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:

Proverbs 1:21
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying ,

Oops Did I do that?

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 10:06 AM  

According to his interview with Gavin McGinness, Roosh was baptized as a child in the Orthodox church. His mother is Amernian Orthodox.

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 10:07 AM  

So a persian, a feminist, and a white knight walk into a bar....

The bartender says "What'll you have?"

The Persian says "I'd like to bed this young woman."

The White Knight says "I'd like to bed her too."

The Feminist says "I want to be on YouTube."

Then everyone went back to their home and masturbated.

The end.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 August 12, 2015 10:08 AM  

Wheeler strikes out again.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 10:10 AM  

Apologizing to an SJW:
I'm sorry you're a thin-skinned, emotionally incontinent asshole.
I'm sorry you didn't have a proper relationship with your father.
I'm sorry you have to pay women to have sex with you, and that you can't afford a good one.


To add to that: I'm not sorry for anything I did or said to you. But I am sorry for you. Your life truly is pathetic and pitiable. You must be miserable all of the time. And I'm not completely heartless; I'm sorry for that.

But sorry for what I did? Pal, you must have mistaken me for someone like you.

Blogger VD August 12, 2015 10:12 AM  

"My superiors"? I don't think so, if "my superiors" are so ignorant of ethics and Morality

Yes, Wheeler. You have no supporters. You have no followers. You convince no one of anything. You fail, over and over and over and over again. And you never, ever learn. You never ever stop and ask yourself, "why am I failing?" You are utterly and totally incompetent in that regard.

We are your strategic superiors by virtue of not being complete failures.

Now, either you can learn from us or you can continue to fail. It's your choice.

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 10:15 AM  

"Now, either you can learn from us or you can continue to fail. It's your choice."

He's 137 years old. He's not interested in learning... or changing anything but his own depends.

Anonymous grey enlightenment August 12, 2015 10:16 AM  

who needs SJWs when you have concern trolls like wheeler

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 10:17 AM  

Wheeler strikes out again.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
but there is no joy in Sparta — mighty Wheeler has struck out.

Blogger The Original Hermit August 12, 2015 10:21 AM  

@69 Brilliant! Imagine a press conference along those lines. The rabid media is expecting a formal apology by a prominent person on live tv. Business as usual, and then it goes completely off the rails.

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 10:24 AM  

Yes, Wheeler. You have no supporters. You have no followers.

I stand with Wheeler.

#istandwithwheeler

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 10:26 AM  

"I stand with Wheeler. "

you would.

Anonymous Steve August 12, 2015 10:27 AM  

Quadko - That couldn't backfire: Ladies, here are the alpha men looking to have sex with you; stay away, stick with us, and we'll protect you. - Wait, no, don't go looking for them!

Right?

What are the SJW's going to do? Post those pictures under the heading "HETEROSEXUALS FOUND IN CANADIA"?

I stand with the Wheelers from "Return To Oz"

OpenID entropyismygod August 12, 2015 10:28 AM  

There is no enemy to my right. I don't agree with Wheeler but he isn't my enemy.

Anonymous Clint 47/73 August 12, 2015 10:29 AM  

@21 Nate, to quote that great philosopher Ike Clanton (as recorded by the documentary Tombstone:

Law don't go 'round here, Law Dog!

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 10:30 AM  

He takes a stand for righteousness.

Blogger VD August 12, 2015 10:31 AM  

I stand with Wheeler.

You'll be excommunicated within minutes of expressing an opinion.

Anonymous Rigel Kent August 12, 2015 10:33 AM  

Of course, no-platforming is a dangerous strategy, because if the wrong sort of man is no-platformed, he will simply go off and build a new platform

Absolutely true, but the reason the opposition is so blind to this is that they are inherently destructive, not creative.

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 10:35 AM  

"There is no enemy to my right. I don't agree with Wheeler but he isn't my enemy."

doesn't matter if you think he's your enemy ya nitwit. He knows you're his enemy.

Blogger Rabbi B August 12, 2015 10:35 AM  

"You have to earn your right to be heard, because no one is going to take you seriously if you don't stand by what you have said in the face of disapproval. It is only those without character who can expect to avoid repeated attempts to assassinate it."

We must conclude then that most people would rather be liked and treated well than taken seriously. How often does the truth and its bearers receive a warm welcome? How did the One Who is the Truth fare in this world of ours? How concerned for their precious little reputations were the prophets of old?

I, for one, have not resisted to the point of shedding my blood for the cause of truth, but countless others have. So long as long as we continue to value our reputations and our very lives more than the truth, we only continue to demonstrate how little we value the truth for which we ostensibly stand.

And, oh yeah . . . Shut Up, Wheeler, and his little dog Porky too.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 10:36 AM  

There is no enemy to my right. I don't agree with Wheeler but he isn't my enemy.

No, he's probably a decent guy and a nice neighbor. But at some point the juncture to not fire at your allies needs to be kept separate from "my supposed allies better stop getting in my line of fire and thinking that I'm not going to shoot at my enemies just because they're stupid enough to stand between us."

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 10:37 AM  

True. He is a dirty little papist.

But he can answer for that in the hereafter.

But in the meantime....#istandwithwheeler

Anonymous smedley butler August 12, 2015 10:39 AM  

"because if the wrong sort of man is no-platformed, he will simply go off and build a new platform"

And in some cases, dominate the platform they're attempting to deny him, as we are learning with the Fox News Trump situation.

Last night Trump was on Hannity for 30min and he'll be on there again tonight.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/fox-news-picked-trump-over-megyn-kelly.html

"Trump is now back in Fox’s fold, but the lengths that Ailes went to in order to win Trump back revealed a rare moment of weakness for the Fox chief. Since Trump’s “blood” comment on Friday, some Fox executives have wanted Ailes to personally call Trump and broker a truce. But, according to a Fox source, Ailes and his lawyer Peter Johnson Jr. felt that calling Trump was a risk they couldn’t take, given Trump's erratic behavior on the campaign trail. What if Trump leaked the conversation on Twitter like he did with Lindsey Graham’s cell-phone number? (When reached by email about this story, Johnson responded: “The reporting is false and obviously fabricated.”)"

Anonymous Gadzook August 12, 2015 10:39 AM  

>>he gave his lecture in Montreal to a group of 34 in a secret location, travelling in disguise

Wow, sounds like things are working out real well for him. All that plus a faceful of beer. "This is what happens when you don't back down and you don't flinch in front of the media heat". Impressive!

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 12, 2015 10:40 AM  

It seems the ilk need a reminder:Wheeler moves for no man.

Anonymous smedley butler August 12, 2015 10:43 AM  

Ailes’s unwillingness to pick up the phone meant that Fox was flying blind. “They didn’t know what Trump was thinking,” one source explained. It was left to emissaries to try and discern Trump’s next move. But, after Trump told Sean Hannity in a weekend phone call that he was “never doing Fox again,” appeared on four non-Fox public-affairs shows on Sunday, and did interviews with Today and Morning Joe on Monday, Ailes raised the white flag and picked up the phone on Monday morning. “Roger wanted a friendly relationship,” the source explained.

OpenID entropyismygod August 12, 2015 10:48 AM  

@88 Gadzook

Snark... you sound like my enemy.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 12, 2015 10:53 AM  

This is what happens when you don't back down and you don't flinch in front of the media heat and you are self-employed.

Compare to comet scientist Dr. Matt "Shirtgate" Taylor. If he hadn't kowtowed to the SJWs, he would have lost his job, his career would be over (we can be pretty sure it's damaged), and he'd be struggling to support his wife Leanne and their children Lily and Harry.

Not everyone can follow Vox's advice, in today's insane environment I couldn't have been visibly conservative as I was when I started working decades ago. Even nowadays, when software development can be done at arms length thanks to the Internet, I would still have to be very careful to avoid getting on the wrong side of a SJWhale and lose customers.

Anonymous Mr. B.A.D. August 12, 2015 10:54 AM  

"He takes a stand for righteousness."

Which righteousness? the one that comes from faith in Christ or the one that comes from following a list of rules?

Anonymous The other robot August 12, 2015 10:56 AM  

Deep down women believe that sex is their most powerful weapon against men.

Roosh causes a visceral fear in such women because he claims shows men how to turn women's behavior to men's advantage.

No wonder they want to get him banned.

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 10:59 AM  

@93

2Cor 6:14

Anonymous Steve August 12, 2015 11:01 AM  

Dr. Matt "Shirtgate" Taylor. If he hadn't kowtowed to the SJWs, he would have lost his job, his career would be over

Respectfully, this is bollocks.

If he'd used a bit of amused mastery he'd have been fine. Plus, it would have spared him being remembered as "that guy who cried like a little pussy".

It's not that easy to sack people in Europe. Employers need actual reasons, not a handful of Twitter complaints from demented feminists on the rag. Plus, it's not as if Taylor would be easy to replace.

Look at that other scientist - he wasn't sacked either. The SJW's talked him and his wife into resigning. If he'd stuck to his guns he'd probably still be in his prior job.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 11:03 AM  

Okay, okay, all understood. Just one thing: When, how, and under what circumstances should we apologize?

I have attended the John Sheridan School of Apologies.

this is really stupid rhetoric... because by definition...you are to the left of those on your right.

It would be stupid rhetoric if it said "there are no allies to my left."

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 11:05 AM  

That woman attacking him only added to his popularity. Using the Lefts tactics against them worked even better than I thought it would.

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 11:07 AM  

"It would be stupid rhetoric if it said "there are no allies to my left.""

the point mate is that this is exactly why libertarians always fail.. and why the Stormfronters are stuck in 1950. They can't get past ideological purity disputes.

they line up their troops all in a line... then tell them all to shoot left.

And they are left with one guy... standing alone.

Blogger Rabbi B August 12, 2015 11:12 AM  

"If he hadn't kowtowed to the SJWs, he would have lost his job, his career would be over (we can be pretty sure it's damaged), and he'd be struggling to support his wife Leanne and their children Lily and Harry."

There are worse things. He conceded and chose what was worse.

I have been asked countless times which principles I am willing to compromise for the sake of preserving peace or relationships or whatever else. Principles cease to be principles the moment they're compromised. And, yes, I have lost a few jobs in my short life for refusing to compromise principles. No small number of congregants have 'voted with their feet,' shooting at me off the back of their horses on the way out of town because of principles I wouldn't compromise.

I have had a few folks over the years remind me where my paycheck comes from. I have been accused of valuing "the rules over relationsships," too much truth without enough love, ad nauseum, ad infinitum.

At the end of the day, I will gladly sleep under a bridge, and sleep more soundly than the countless cowards who are more than happy to exchange the truth for a lie as soon as their tastes are offended for whatever reason.

"Better is the poor who walks in his integrity than one perverse in his ways, though he be rich." (Proverbs 19)

Vox is right, the truth is something of which we should never be ashamed nor something for which we should ever apologize.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 11:12 AM  

they line up their troops all in a line... then tell them all to shoot left.

As libertarians are neither left nor right, shooting exclusively at the left will still have them missing each other.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 11:13 AM  

the point mate is that this is exactly why libertarians always fail.. and why the Stormfronters are stuck in 1950. They can't get past ideological purity disputes.

they line up their troops all in a line... then tell them all to shoot left.

And they are left with one guy... standing alone.


This is the story of both Ron Paul campaigns, especially in the grassroots.

Blogger bob k. mando August 12, 2015 11:14 AM  

VFM bot #188 August 12, 2015 8:11 AM
Okay, okay, all understood. Just one thing: When, how, and under what circumstances should we apologize?



i'm so sorry. i don't seem to have burned down every single stick of your shit house of ideas.

i'll try to be more thorough next time.



48. Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 August 12, 2015 9:46 AM
Excuse me, did Josh just defend Massachusetts?


"damning with faint praise".

it's a yankee thing, you wouldn't understand.


57. Mint August 12, 2015 9:56 AM
I will never look at Roosh V the same again. Knowing his real name now, 'Roosh' will forever reminding me of Darius the Mede, the king



Alpha Display Protocol ... successful.



86. Porky August 12, 2015 10:37 AM
But in the meantime....#istandwithwheeler




not sure if serious.

BUT, if serious, this may be the apotheosis of "damning with faint praise".

*golfclap*

also, Vox is now wrong. Wheeler has followers.

all one of them.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 11:15 AM  

Can you link to that tweet?

I give thanks to Jewish intellectuals who helped create a multicultural USA society that led to my parents immigration and my birth.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 12, 2015 11:17 AM  

@97 Steve: I was too US centric, you are of course right that quickly firing him would have been difficult to impossible. But couldn't he have been "laid off" as we put it in the US after enough of the probe's mission was complete, since these sorts of missions have a definite end?

In the US it would have been game over.

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 11:19 AM  

"As libertarians are neither left nor right, shooting exclusively at the left will still have them missing each other."

wrong. Libertarians are the far right.. just before you hit anarchists.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 11:19 AM  

I give thanks to Jewish intellectuals who helped create a multicultural USA society that led to my parents immigration and my birth.

Thank you.

Of course Roosh, being Armenian and Iranian, is both Caucasian and Aryan.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 11:20 AM  

Of course Roosh, being Armenian and Iranian, is both Caucasian and Aryan.


And not European.

Anonymous The Obvious August 12, 2015 11:23 AM  

@31

It's here: (NSFW?)

MPC Forums Too Redpill

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 11:25 AM  

"And not European."

HES CAUCASIAN BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HES A TRUE WHITE MAN!

/girl logic

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 11:26 AM  

@110

The next post "born with a silver spoon for a face as it were" LOL. I think it was referring to Tuthmosis, an Inca peasant who's described as "looking like a guy's reflection in a spoon". But still funny.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 12, 2015 11:27 AM  

"No more deadly curse than sensual pleasure has been inflicted on mankind by nature, to gratify which our wanton appetites are roused beyond all prudence or restraint. It is a fruitful source of treasons, revolutions, secret communications with the enemy. In fact, there is no crime, no evil deed, to which the appetite for sensual pleasures does not impel us. Fornications and adulteries, and every abomination of that kind, are brought about by the enticements of pleasure and by them alone. Intellect is the best gift of nature or God: to this divine gift and endowment there is nothing so inimical as pleasure. For when appetite is our master, there is no place for self-control; nor where pleasure reigns supreme can virtue hold its ground. To see this more vividly, imagine a man excited to the highest conceivable pitch of sensual pleasure. It can be doubtful to no one that such a person, so long as he is under the influence of such excitation of the senses, will be unable to use to any purpose either intellect, reason, or thought. Therefore nothing can be so execrable and so fatal as pleasure; since, when more than ordinarily violent and lasting, it darkens all the light of the soul." - Archytas of Tarentum

And that dude was more Alpha than any of the posers in the PUA crowd today.

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 11:27 AM  

I think he was being sarcastic on that tweet. He's been really keen lately on pointing out the Jewish love for immigration into dirty goy countries, and specifically their influence in Marxist, Frankfurt school circles.

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 11:28 AM  

not sure if serious.

BUT, if serious, this may be the apotheosis of "damning with faint praise".


Of course I'm serious. Believers need only agree on the core tenets of the faith.

they line up their troops all in a line... then tell them all to shoot left.

Nobody is saying "Shoot Roosh". He's not the enemy.

The bible simply instructs us believers not to align ourselves with him.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 11:28 AM  

HES CAUCASIAN BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HES A TRUE WHITE MAN!

He's Caucasian but would not have been terribly welcome in the U.S. before the 1965 change in immigration policy. Not even all Europeans were welcome. I've yet to say the word "white", but good try.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 12, 2015 11:28 AM  

Of course Roosh, being Armenian and Iranian, is both Caucasian and Aryan.

But not *our* kind of Aryan.

/ducks

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 11:30 AM  

Not even all Europeans were welcome.

Which Europeans are welcome, and why?

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 11:32 AM  

The only ones welcome in America were the ones from founding stock countries, and maybe Canada or Australia. Anybody else was not wanted because they simply could not comprehend the American way of doing things.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 August 12, 2015 11:33 AM  

The founding stock countries don't either anymore.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 11:34 AM  

The Europeans that were welcome before 1965.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 11:35 AM  



Wrong. The Far Right is Monarchism. The Left/Right debate is about who should have concentrated power. This is why Nazis are Right-Wing (-ish), because Mussolini was happy to use the Italian royal family instead of killing it, and Hitler actively wanted the Wehrmacht's support instead of just replacing it with his SA. The fascist economic structure is corporatism, which again leaves ownership intact even while binding it to the service of the state, as opposed to shipping the capitalists off to gulags. The left, meanwhile, is mob rule, with all other authorities torn down, which is how most Anarchists want society ruled. Thus, Anarchists are at the extreme left, just next to Communists.

Left/Right has nothing to do with freedom or economics or social policy. It's just who pulls the strings. As libertarians say no one should be pulling them, they aren't on the Left/Right axis.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 11:36 AM  

The Europeans that were welcome before 1965.

So Poles, Jews, other Slavs, Italians, Greeks, Africans, Chinese, Japanese, etc?

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 11:43 AM  

@122. Context is everything. In America that makes no sense. We have NEVER had a tradition of monarchism—since the Revolution, at least—so saying that as if it has any meaning in America is nonsensical.

Also, claiming that fascism is right-wing because it coopted, dominated and exploited the monarchy when every plank on its platform was straight out of Marx is ridiculous.

Also, that means that every social democrat monarchy in Europe is more right-wing than the US, which is also ridiculous.

Blogger automatthew August 12, 2015 11:43 AM  

Which Europeans are welcome, and why?

The attractive ones.

Blogger Rabbi B August 12, 2015 11:43 AM  

"The bible simply instructs us believers not to align ourselves with him."

"That doesn't happen when you flee from criticism like a coward. You have to earn your right to be heard, because no one is going to take you seriously if you don't stand by what you have said in the face of disapproval."

So, someone is being held up as an example of "not fleeing from criticism" and "standing by what they have said in the face of disapproval," (which is more than can be said of most so-called believers, Christians, Catholics, or whatever), and somehow that is "aligning ourselves" with all that is immoral in the example?

Are the people who frequent this blog really so obtuse that they miss the takeaway(s) from the OP and others like it? Heck, VP even qualified and typed rather slow for the midwits among us in a previous post:

"YOU MAY NOT LIKE ROOSH. YOU MAY NOT APPROVE OF HIM. YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH HIM ABOUT MUCH. But the next time you bite your tongue because you are afraid of saying something that a woman or an SJW might look at you funny for saying, or refrain from saying what you think out of fear that someone might confront you or call you a name, remember that this is a man who was denounced, falsely accused, publicly unwelcomed by the mayor of Montreal, protested, and physically attacked, and he still stood up and spoke out in public concerning his beliefs about the interests of men."

If G-d can use a dumb ass to restrain the madness of a prophet, I am sure there are a host of other instruments at His disposal which He can use to further His purposes.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 11:46 AM  

So Poles, Jews, other Slavs, Italians, Greeks, Africans, Chinese, Japanese, etc?

Hey Obama, when did Africa, China, Israel and Japan become a part of Europe?

I don't mind the founding stock idea either. When the US allowed in Eastern and Southern Europeans they stank the place up with crime (being the naggers of Europe), but there were at least so few of them, and they interbred and were forced to assimilate, that they're all part of the amorphous blob of White Europeans we have today.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 11:47 AM  

The Europeans that were welcome before 1965.

So Poles, Jews, other Slavs, Italians, Greeks, Africans, Chinese, Japanese, etc?


I'd be happy with returning to the Emergency Quota Act of 1921, sure. Or the Immigration Act of 1924. I'd like a return to the Naturalization Act of 1906 while we're at it,

OpenID kbswift August 12, 2015 11:48 AM  

@ Josh
Your knowledge of geography is astounding.

Blogger IM2L844 August 12, 2015 11:50 AM  

Some people are addicted to being perceived as caring about other people's feelings.

You can't change reality by kowtowing to feelings. Truth doesn't care about feelings.Truth doesn't apologize. Realists deal with reality.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 11:52 AM  

We have NEVER had a tradition of monarchism—since the Revolution, at least—so saying that as if it has any meaning in America is nonsensical.

Have you heard of the Bible belt? Have you heard of the Divine Right of Kings? Now, do some addition, 2+2=? Where do you think the Bible thumpers fall on the spectrum? Besides the monarchy, what did the French Revolution try to do away with? Why were priests and relatives of priests sent to Siberia in the USSR?

Shorter: Mike Huckabee is the American Right-Wing.

Also, claiming that fascism is right-wing because it coopted, dominated and exploited the monarchy when every plank on its platform was straight out of Marx is ridiculous.

And yet, that is the banner the Right went to in the 1930's. Few backed democracy, and no one dared try to bring back the institutions that lead to the Great War. If you were on the Right before WWII, that was the only place for you.

It's only ridiculous if you are completely ignorant of history.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 11:52 AM  

Hey Obama, when did Africa, China, Israel and Japan become a part of Europe?

My mistake. All those peoples were allowed to enter the USA before 1965. And Jewish immigrants were overwhelmingly from Europe.

When the US allowed in Eastern and Southern Europeans they stank the place up with crime (being the naggers of Europe), but there were at least so few of them, and they interbred and were forced to assimilate, that they're all part of the amorphous blob of White Europeans we have today.

That is ludicrously inaccurate. Look at the 2000 census maps for countries of origin. Look at the politics of Minnesota or Wisconsin.

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 11:53 AM  

"The founding stock countries don't either anymore."

It would be to our detriment to take them in at this point. Hell, it'd be a problem just taking in Californians and people from Massachussetts.

"The Far Right is Monarchism."

Yes, but not the Far Right in America.

"The attractive ones."

The new Trump immigration policy: we only take the hot ones.

"It's an immigration policy, that, I think, we can all get behind. Heh."

Anonymous Athor Pel August 12, 2015 11:54 AM  

The thing I've noticed about the Bible quoting anti-game folks is they have a problem with reading comprehension. But that's being charitable, I'm assuming they've actually read anything about the core of game, why it works, how it works, that's it's a bunch of tools and not a moral philosophy. And how those truths are reflected in scripture and objective reality.

But it seems they can't discern truth among the noise of the world or in scripture. It's almost like they're Manicheans. They display an inability to process a chain of logic past a single step. They only ask one question and further depth of understanding is unwanted.

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 11:54 AM  

"Your knowledge of geography is astounding."

Well if you think he thought Africans and Chinese were from Europe, there's really nothing I can do to help you.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 11:54 AM  

I'd be happy with returning to the Emergency Quota Act of 1921, sure

From Wikipedia: The Act set no limits on immigration from Latin America.

Blogger darkdoc August 12, 2015 11:56 AM  

Apologetics is the art of Christian defense of the faith. Same word root derivative.

"I'm sorry" is NOT a defense of anything, and only a capitulation.

Instead, learn to defend your faith and beliefs - become a true apologist,

Not the cowering, concerned, seeking-approval kind of whatever it is.

Anonymous BGS August 12, 2015 11:58 AM  

writes about convincing women to have sex. Remarkably toned down but this is still hilarious.

Is prostitution legal there or is Toronto's mayor a white version of Marion Barry?

We are ground zero for boring white culture.

I suggest he move to Dearborn MI for some exciting vibrant culture.

Roosh is a prime example of the failure of the American immigration system.

He is on the far right of the bell curve of what is allowed in, a Cambridge graduate that speaks 5 languages who is married to a US veteran got thrown in jail for crossing the border while mestizos with MS-13 facial tattoos didn't.

Armenians are LITERALLY Caucasians.

I knew someone with a grandfather who escaped the Armenian genocide as a child who had blue eyes and dirty blond hair.

Freedom is a feminine ideology because... the Statue of Liberty is of a woman?

I propose that the Statue of Liberty is not a real woman because I have never heard it complain about its boyfriend/girlfriend.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 11:58 AM  

Have you heard of the Bible belt? Have you heard of the Divine Right of Kings? Now, do some addition, 2+2=? Where do you think the Bible thumpers fall on the spectrum?

Since you ask:

1 Samuel 8:10-18

10So Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking for a king from him. 11He said, “These will be the ways of the king who will reign over you: he will take your sons and appoint them to his chariots and to be his horsemen and to run before his chariots. 12And he will appoint for himself commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and some to plow his ground and to reap his harvest, and to make his implements of war and the equipment of his chariots. 13He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive orchards and give them to his servants. 15He will take the tenth of your grain and of your vineyards and give it to his officers and to his servants. 16He will take your male servants and female servants and the best of your young mena and your donkeys, and put them to his work. 17He will take the tenth of your flocks, and you shall be his slaves. 18And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 11:58 AM  

Look at the politics of Minnesota or Wisconsin.

They look pretty similar to WASP strongholds Vermont and Maine.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:04 PM  

They look pretty similar to WASP strongholds Vermont and Maine.

And yet Minnesota and Wisconsin have rolled out the red carpet for your beloved vibrants. Brilliant solution to ensure White European America remains White European America.

Anonymous BGS August 12, 2015 12:04 PM  

"Which Europeans are welcome, and why?"

Even sickly Europeans got sent back to Europe, just having a cough could turn someone back from Elis island. Now we have mestizos bringing drug resistant TB, Chagas, Dengue & measles.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 12:06 PM  

Slightly off-topic, but this Tweet was an unintentionally hilarious response to spoon-faced Tuthmosis's "Girls with Short Hair are Damaged": Take that, DAD!

I agree Roosh does good work like this, I just don't want his kind in my country (or plundering the potatozone).

Blogger Sgt Polite August 12, 2015 12:06 PM  

"writes about convincing women to have sex"
As someone who lives nearish Canada and has had sex with Canadian women it doesn't take much convincing. They tend to be much more laid back and friendly than your typical American woman. Quebec is probably a different story than B.C. though.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 12, 2015 12:06 PM  

I stand with Wheeler on this particular issue. #istandwithwheeler


“Was Jesus participating in adultery when he refused to stone the woman caught in adultery?”

You refer to John 8:1-11. Jesus offered a stern warning--”Where are your accusers. Didn’t even one of them condemn you? Neither do I. Go and sin no more.” Had she fucked more men in the future, she would be breaking her word to Jesus, for which there would be consequences. Moreover, Jesus was respecting the law, as the woman had NOT been condemned by a Court. There is no indication that the authorities found her guilty of anything. Jesus thus opposed a lynch-mob to mete out justice, as He would not act outside of the law.

The more appropriate question...Is Roosh facilitating leftism via the active encouragement of men to remain single and refrain from having children by fornicating with many women?

I speak for myself. Roosh is NOT my ally in the “Cultural War”.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 12:06 PM  

"The Far Right is Monarchism."

Yes, but not the Far Right in America.


The US is unique in that it had a very large and powerful "Fuck off" party as related to Federal power. True. But at the local level you had rule that was heavily influenced by religious institutions. It's not surprising as many of the colonies were set up so the colonists could freely practice their religion. That is the basis for the American Right.

Plus, if you try to cram libertarianism onto the Right-Left spectrum, you do retarded things like blindly vote Republican or say that Anarchists are the extreme Right.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 12:07 PM  

Have you heard of the Bible belt? Have you heard of the Divine Right of Kings? Now, do some addition, 2+2=? Where do you think the Bible thumpers fall on the spectrum? Besides the monarchy, what did the French Revolution try to do away with? Why were priests and relatives of priests sent to Siberia in the USSR?

Shorter: Mike Huckabee is the American Right-Wing.


So because the right-wing is Christian, and a doctrine of Christianity is that Christ is going to ultimately be the King of all Earth and Heaven, that they're monarchists?

Really? That's the kind of definition stretching to absurd places you're going to go to to try and align American right-wing and European right-wing into some grand unification theory of the right?

Talking to you is going to be harder than I thought.

And yet, that is the banner the Right went to in the 1930's. Few backed democracy, and no one dared try to bring back the institutions that lead to the Great War. If you were on the Right before WWII, that was the only place for you.

You are confusing "Republican" with "right-wing." They are not the same. Pretty much all of Western civilization flirted with Marxism in various degrees during the teens, 20s and 30s. Just because Hoover was to the right of Trotsky doesn't make him right-wing. All of those who developed policies that are intellectually based on Marx are on the left.

It's only ridiculous if you are completely ignorant of history.

It's only not ridiculous if 1) you think that we're still in the 30s, and 2) you think Republicans represent the right-wing regardless of what their actual positions happen to be.

Since both of those assumptions are ridiculous, so is your conclusion.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:08 PM  

I agree Roosh does good work like this, I just don't want his kind in my country (or plundering the potatozone).

So you don't want an Aryan to take the virtue of Slavic (or Irish) maidens?

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 12:08 PM  

From Wikipedia: The Act set no limits on immigration from Latin America.

An oversight that wasn't relevant at the time. It can be corrected, though, easily enough.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 12:09 PM  

And yet Minnesota and Wisconsin have rolled out the red carpet for your beloved vibrants. Brilliant solution to ensure White European America remains White European America.

Which are the same policies that Vermontians and Maineans vote for. Europeans are very good at destroying their own countries with immigration, I wouldn't argue with you there.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 12:10 PM  

So you don't want an Aryan to take the virtue of Slavic (or Irish) maidens?

Correct. And I meant Slavic. The Turk has ruined that area of the world enough already.

Blogger Rabbi B August 12, 2015 12:11 PM  

" . . . that's it's a bunch of tools and not a moral philosophy. And how those truths are reflected in scripture and objective reality."

Great comment and well said. What we lack is the stomach and the wherewithal to act shrewdly when necessary. Cunning as serpents, yet innocent as doves.

"So the master commended the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light." (cf. Luke 16)

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:12 PM  

Which are the same policies that Vermontians and Maineans vote for. Europeans are very good at destroying their own countries with immigration, I wouldn't argue with you there.

And yet Vermont and Maine have not been overrun by vibrants. So it's not just as simple as what policies they vote for.

So if Europeans are going to destroy their countries with immigration, how is allowing Europeans to immigrate going to prevent this country from being destroyed with immigration?

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 12:15 PM  

"So you don't want an Aryan to take the virtue of Slavic (or Irish) maidens?"

Why does it matter? He doesn't go for virgins anyway. Taking advantage of sluts is hardly a loss to the country.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:16 PM  

Why does it matter? He doesn't go for virgins anyway. Taking advantage of sluts is hardly a loss to the country.

Well, in that case I guess it's just pure Slavic blood being polluted by unclean Aryan blood.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 12, 2015 12:17 PM  

And yet Vermont and Maine have not been overrun by vibrants. So it's not just as simple as what policies they vote for.

It's all about swingability.

Vermont and Maine are already so reliably Democrat that they don't need vibrants to keep them on the wagon.

Minnesota and, especially, Wisconsin have been trending Red for a while, so it's necessary to drop various assorted Somalis and indigenous American Africans into them to keep the balance.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 12, 2015 12:18 PM  

Well, in that case I guess it's just pure Slavic blood being polluted by unclean Aryan blood.

The irony? The Slavs may well be the closest thing in the world to the proto-IEs.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 12, 2015 12:19 PM  

Ok, I get it Roosh is on our side free speech wise. But can we still mock him about the wig? I mean did anyone else not have to stifle laughter at the 'rasta man' level of hair on that mop? Last time I wore something like that it was Halloween and I was playing a klingon warrior.

Went over fabulously too. I worked security at a haunted house and the visitors really loved it. Can't see bar-hopping in it though.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 12:21 PM  

So because the right-wing is Christian, and a doctrine of Christianity is that Christ is going to ultimately be the King of all Earth and Heaven, that they're monarchists?

Stop being deliberately obtuse. How do I know it's deliberate? Because you aren't taking Nate to task because you think he's saying that everyone on the Right wants to abolish all government and run around, enforcing the law with torches and pitchforks. Plus, you know damn well that it's not simply belief, but encoding Biblical authority into law, that is the issue.

You are arguing in bad faith. Stop it.

You are confusing "Republican" with "right-wing." They are not the same. Pretty much all of Western civilization flirted with Marxism in various degrees during the teens, 20s and 30s. Just because Hoover was to the right of Trotsky doesn't make him right-wing. All of those who developed policies that are intellectually based on Marx are on the left.

Fun fact: If you were a Girondist during the French Revolution, you went from Left Wing to Right Wing without changing a single position. Spend five minutes learning history to know why, and then you'll see why your above statement is completely irrelevant. Hint: Left/Right has NOTHING to do with ideas.

Gee, I could have sworn I already said that. I guess illiteracy would help explain the historical ignorance...

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 12:22 PM  

Jim... we live in the Bible Belt you blithering dipshit of window licking retard.

Shut up and try to learn something. Idiots like you have come here spouting that same bullshit since 2003. You're not saying anything new. Same boring bullshit.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:23 PM  

But can we still mock him about the wig?

Yes

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 12:25 PM  

And yet Vermont and Maine have not been overrun by vibrants. So it's not just as simple as what policies they vote for.

Not yet, like most smart white liberals, they prefer to live in their all-white enclaves. Not all of them are that lucky. However, they both have "refugee" resettlement programs. Bernie Sanders only started hopping on the anti-immigration bandwagon.

So if Europeans are going to destroy their countries with immigration, how is allowing Europeans to immigrate going to prevent this country from being destroyed with immigration?

Because Europeans are still head and shoulders above allowing immigration of human fetus-eating chinks and albino-eating Africans. And not all of them are pro-immigration (see the vast percentage of people of European descent who are waking up to the fact that their countries are being overrun due to their own stupid policies).

Why does it matter? He doesn't go for virgins anyway. Taking advantage of sluts is hardly a loss to the country.

The acceptance of promiscuity in any country is a loss, especially if the men are so pussified they allow foreigners to partake. Throw the women in convents or group homes instead of increasing the risk of STDs, bastard children and hollow-eyed, drug addicted uber-sluts.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:28 PM  

Because Europeans are still head and shoulders above allowing immigration of human fetus-eating chinks and albino-eating Africans. And not all of them are pro-immigration (see the vast percentage of people of European descent who are waking up to the fact that their countries are being overrun due to their own stupid policies).

Wouldn't it be a much safer course of action to just ban all immigration? Then you don't run the risk of importing a bunch of pro-immigration Europeans.

Of course that might conflict with the blank slate idea of pan-european solidarity.

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 12:29 PM  

So, someone is being held up as an example of "not fleeing from criticism"

Well, shit. Idi Amin didn't flee from criticism either so let's all sing kumbayah and invite him over to give a speech.

and "standing by what they have said in the face of disapproval," (which is more than can be said of most so-called believers, Christians, Catholics, or whatever)

The Sadducees also stood by their beliefs in the face of disapproval. I missed the part where they were applauded for being "oh so brave".

and somehow that is "aligning ourselves" with all that is immoral in the example?

Roosh doesn't represent "all that is immoral". He's simply an unbeliever. As such, we don't join his cause. It really couldn't be made more clear. Light and dark have no fellowship. You either abide or you don't. Not a lot of middle ground there.

Blogger Tommy Hass August 12, 2015 12:31 PM  

Also the "Nazis/Fascists were leftwing/socialist" is such an obnoxious canard, it pains me to see it spouted.

Yes, if you use a definition of the word that nobody, NOBODY abides by. Socialism = Marxism-Leninism. That's why you see commies today still revere scum like Lenin, Stalin and Mao but not Mussolini or Hitler.

Hitler hiself said that the "Socialist" part was to attract proles that were too stupid to realize that Socialism isn't good for them. The guys most close to to being actual socialists were Röhm and Strasser.

In reality, fascists/Nazis were both rightwing AND leftwing. Right wing because of nationalism, traditional sex roles etc and left wing because of their statism, progressivism and eugenics.

That being said, reading the wikipedia talk page about whether or not National Socialism is Socialism will give you a headache.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 12, 2015 12:32 PM  

Markku - What do I need to do to migrate to Finnland? My last ancestor left there 100 + years ago but they spoke Finnish when they got to the US. Do I get diversity points for anything? Can I keep my own guns or do I have to keep them locked up at a public shooting range.

Finally, how bad are the wolves this summer? Did you need to shoot them off your porch.

Anonymous Steve August 12, 2015 12:32 PM  

TWBD - But couldn't he have been "laid off" as we put it in the US after enough of the probe's mission was complete, since these sorts of missions have a definite end?

Maybe. He might be laid off anyway.

However, bear in mind he's a highly qualified academic and scientist, with advanced specialist skills and a track record that makes him highly desirable as an employee for any number of universities or government science agencies.

Also, when some daft feminists started menstruating about his shirt, the media, public, and his peers were on his side. Nobody who mattered was trying to force ESA to sack him. This wasn't like the James Watson episode.

And he didn't actually say or do anything controversial.

Obviously, there are limits to what you can say when you're not self-employed. But we're not yet living in the new Soviet Union. If he'd gone on national TV, pulled his cock out, and called women fat slags, his career would have been over. But for wearing a shirt with pretty ladies on it? No. He could easily have shrugged that off if he knew how.

Instead, he seems to have mistaken some idle yapping from SJW's for Serious Business, fell to pieces and started blubbing. Which just made him look pathetic, and made Shirtgate a proper media story rather than the "And finally..." kwayzee feminists story it had been before then.

This illustrates that, to a large extent, the SJW's only have the power that normal people give them. If you treat them and their complaints seriously, you give them power. In reality, SJW's are a tiny minority of ugly hambeasts and despised manginas.

Blogger David-093 August 12, 2015 12:32 PM  

"Wouldn't it be a much safer course of action to just ban all immigration? Then you don't run the risk of importing a bunch of pro-immigration Europeans."

I agree.

"Of course that might conflict with the blank slate idea of pan-european solidarity."

Pan european solidarity...that idea is not quite as dumb as letting in millions of third worlders, but it's approaching it.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:32 PM  

When the US allowed in Eastern and Southern Europeans they stank the place up with crime (being the naggers of Europe), but there were at least so few of them, and they interbred and were forced to assimilate, that they're all part of the amorphous blob of White Europeans we have today.

Also, can you can you go back and clarify what you mean by "so few of them"? And where's your support for your "amorphous blob of White Europeans" statement?

Both David Hackett Fischer and Colin Woodard, along with the failure of the European Union, would disagree that white europeans are an amorphous blob.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 12:33 PM  

Stop being deliberately obtuse. How do I know it's deliberate? Because you aren't taking Nate to task because you think he's saying that everyone on the Right wants to abolish all government and run around, enforcing the law with torches and pitchforks. Plus, you know damn well that it's not simply belief, but encoding Biblical authority into law, that is the issue.

You are arguing in bad faith. Stop it.


You have no idea what I'm doing. I'm genuinely confused by the profundity of the absurdity of what you're saying. I grew up in the Bible Belt, so I know exactly what a typical Bible Belt right-winger believes. You're description of one isn't even close.

Plus, I'm starting to catch whiffs of SJW caricatures of Christianity in your approach, so I'm actually not convinced that YOU'RE arguing in good faith.

Fun fact: If you were a Girondist during the French Revolution, you went from Left Wing to Right Wing without changing a single position. Spend five minutes learning history to know why, and then you'll see why your above statement is completely irrelevant. Hint: Left/Right has NOTHING to do with ideas.

That's complete BS. Like I said before, which apparently you didn't read, just because you can find someone even more on the left than your exhibit A doesn't mean that exhibit A is right-wing. Stalin is not right-wing because he wasn't as far left as Trotsky. In like manner, the Girondists did not become right wing just because the Montagnards rose up even further to their left. They're both creatures of the left. There were no right-wing actors in the French First Republic.

Gee, I could have sworn I already said that. I guess illiteracy would help explain the historical ignorance...

You may have said it, but it's still stupid and wrong.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 12:33 PM  

Wouldn't it be a much safer course of action to just ban all immigration? Then you don't run the risk of importing a bunch of pro-immigration Europeans.

I would be happy with putting immigration at 1% of what it is now, if that.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 12:33 PM  

Jim... we live in the Bible Belt you blithering dipshit of window licking retard.

Oh look, it tries to adapt my insults to its own use. Points for effort, I guess.

Idiots like you have come here spouting that same bullshit since 2003. You're not saying anything new. Same boring bullshit.

Funny. I always thought VD's commentators were an intelligent sort. So people have been correcting you for twelve years and it still hasn't sunk in. You might want to look up that "retard" word you tried to deploy. It'll blow your mind.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:34 PM  

Roosh doesn't represent "all that is immoral". He's simply an unbeliever. As such, we don't join his cause. It really couldn't be made more clear. Light and dark have no fellowship. You either abide or you don't. Not a lot of middle ground there.

Jesus ate and drank with sinners and prostitutes...

Anonymous Gary August 12, 2015 12:35 PM  

"WLW, I don't care if the guy next to me in the foxhole just finished visiting the town brothel so long as he's shooting at the enemy."

I tried to explain the concept to Nate and it went over his head.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 12, 2015 12:35 PM  

Both David Hackett Fischer and Colin Woodard, along with the failure of the European Union, would disagree that white europeans are an amorphous blob.

Italian, English...it's all the same, amiright?

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 12:37 PM  

Also the "Nazis/Fascists were leftwing/socialist" is such an obnoxious canard, it pains me to see it spouted.

It's so blindingly clear that it pains me to see anyone denying it.

That being said, reading the wikipedia talk page about whether or not National Socialism is Socialism will give you a headache.

Screw Wikipedia. Go to the primary sources. Read the Fascist Manifesto. Read the Nazi party platform. Read the voting records where the Nazis and the Communists voted in lockstep for Marxist proposals all the time in the Reichstag.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 12:38 PM  

Also, can you can you go back and clarify what you mean by "so few of them"? And where's your support for your "amorphous blob of White Europeans" statement?

Both David Hackett Fischer and Colin Woodard, along with the failure of the European Union, would disagree that white europeans are an amorphous blob.


So few of them means as a percentage of the population at the time (even then, it was too much, as many living at the time attested).

I too disagree that white Europeans living in Europe or settlers of the American continent are an amorphous blob. Interbreeding in the U.S. has created a mixture of European hybrids that are not as easily distinguished, which is the "amorphous blob".

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 12, 2015 12:39 PM  

Right wing because of nationalism,

Because nobody would ever think of motivating young men to fight a war for the Rodina.

traditional sex roles

Like having unmarried young women serve as baby factories for multiple SS officers?

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 12:39 PM  

Jesus ate and drank with sinners and prostitutes...

No fellowship! No middle ground! Porky and Wheeler have disavowed Jesus! He wasn't sufficiently ideologically pure for them!

Anonymous Porky August 12, 2015 12:43 PM  

Jesus ate and drank with sinners and prostitutes...

The idea that "fellowship" means "eating and drinking with" is churchian idiocy.

The gospel is proclaimed so that one might join the believers in fellowship, not the other way around.

Blogger Rabbi B August 12, 2015 12:44 PM  

"As such, we don't join his cause."

Whose being asked to join his "cause?"

In the Scriptures, G-d even upholds the "faithfulness" of the pagan nations around Israel as an example of devotion in order to shame Israel and highlight Israel's unfaithfulness and fickleness to the one true G-d. At least the nations were committed to their gods, unlike Israel who was constantly changing allegiances. In other words, if Israel could be as devoted to the one true G-d as the pagans were to their so-called gods, how much better off she would be.

Should that be interpreted to mean that G-d wanted Israel to align herself with the nations and their practices, or was G-d making another point all together?

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 12:45 PM  

Like having unmarried young women serve as baby factories for multiple SS officers?

I've heard them referred to as Hitler's Brides, but can't find much under that search term. It's interesting how this is ignored by leftists who hate on "right-wing, traditional" National Socialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

"Lebensborn e.V. (literally: "Fount of Life") was an SS-initiated, state-supported, registered association in Nazi Germany with the goal of raising the birth rate of "Aryan" children via extramarital relations of persons classified as "racially pure and healthy" based on Nazi racial hygiene and health ideology. Lebensborn encouraged anonymous births by unmarried women, and mediated adoption of these children by likewise "racially pure and healthy" parents, particularly SS members and their families."

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:46 PM  

So few of them means as a percentage of the population at the time (even then, it was too much, as many living at the time attested).

What time period are you referring to?

Anonymous Seneca August 12, 2015 12:48 PM  

One could avoid all the pointless arguing about "left wing" and "right wing" if you gave up the idea that politics can be mapped on a simple left/right spectrum. As the the argument here demonstrates, the left/right spectrum so popular among the commentariat doesn't actually explain very much and actually gets in the way of understanding the similarities and differences of political groups. Even more so if you insist on applying it internationally as though people labeled "right wing" in Europe had much to do with those labeled "right wing" in America.

I suspect that is partially be design. The commentariat tend to be socialists and a lot of them were communist sympathizers and have long used that terminology along with insisting that fascists are right wing in order to obscure the fact that European fascism is descended from Woodrow Wilson and early 20th century American progressivism and that the difference between the Soviets and the Nazis is mostly a disagreement between two different kinds of socialism (national and international).

Blogger Rabbi B August 12, 2015 12:48 PM  

Sometimes, ya just can't win no matter what . . .

'For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ But wisdom is justified by her children.”

Anonymous FP August 12, 2015 12:48 PM  

@51

"Your fidelity is to the feminine ideology of Freedom. The statue of Liberty is a female persona."

Wheeler, as an expert of Lady Libby I have a question for you. Is she really naked under that toga? She's French you know.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:51 PM  

But wisdom is justified by her children

I see what you did there...

Blogger Nate August 12, 2015 12:51 PM  

". I'm genuinely confused by the profundity of the absurdity of what you're saying. I grew up in the Bible Belt, so I know exactly what a typical Bible Belt right-winger believes. You're description of one isn't even close. "

Most bible believers in the south aren't right wing extremists.

Listen... its not simple...

On the far left you have giant authoritarian government control of everything. On the far right... you have Anarchy.

That's it.

Just to left of anarchists... you find libertarians. further to the left of them... you find actual american conservatives like you are talking about in the bible belt.

The furthest to the left are the Totalitarians. They come in different flavors but they really don't matter. They are all totalitiarians.

that is the american political spectrum

Blogger Tommy Hass August 12, 2015 12:52 PM  

Arbiter

"It is a typical cuckservative thing to call the Left “Nazis”, taught to them by Jewish “conservative” media owners. To make sure they’ll never dare look up the writings by the National Socialists.

Another cuckservative thing, while we’re at it: “Didya know Nazi stands for National Socialist!” No, morons, “Nazi” was a slur invented by the German communists, picked up by British newspaper owners who thereby showed their allegiance. It is telling that the slur is now used by “conservatives” today, who are more Marxist than anything else. Nazist is the real word, and it stands for National Socialist, but it is not leftist in the least. They had to add “socialist” because, as Hitler explains several times in My Struggle, the workers were thoroughly indoctrinated into thinking that right-wing parties were their enemies, so adding “socialist” was a clear sign that the party intended to be their friend. “No concession is too great to win over the workers”, he wrote. He also mentioned Marxism more than 200 times in the book, each time criticizing it and naming it the number one enemy. While being more conservative than the conservatives; fascism is conservatism with a spine. That’s why the Conservative Party allied with them against the socialists, and most Con MPs later joined the NSDAP. While the socialist leaders were arrested. Hitler said that “Our socialism is not the socialism of the Left”, meaning it’s not “socialism” at all, and “We will take the word socialism from the socialists.” It couldn’t be clearer. Nationalist Germany had taxes lower than in even Britain. The only socialist thing they did was basic pension and economic safety net – far milder than what right-wing parties support today – and price controls, which were then abolished and recognized as a mistake. Yet those price controls are repeated over and over again by cuckservatives.

But do keep using “Nazi” for the Left, it is good to see who is ignorant of history and who isn’t."

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 12:53 PM  

Also the "Nazis/Fascists were leftwing/socialist" is such an obnoxious canard, it pains me to see it spouted.

They were socialists, though. The whole point of Mussolini's "third way" was to get the traditional elite to buy into socialism.

I grew up in the Bible Belt, so I know exactly what a typical Bible Belt right-winger believes. You're description of one isn't even close.

Know of anyone that votes Pro-Life primarily because of scripture? Or opposes gay marriage for the same reason? When I lived there I knew plenty. That's Right-Wing behavior. (Note: it is the authority that is appealed to that determines Right or Left, not the issue itself)

Plus, I'm starting to catch whiffs of SJW caricatures of Christianity in your approach, so I'm actually not convinced that YOU'RE arguing in good faith.

The only way to do that is if you read "Right Wing" as a slur. If so, that's your problem and speaks to how you've allowed yourself to be conditioned. I fully acknowledge that I have Right Wing sympathies and laugh when I hear someone's great grandfather fought in the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

In like manner, the Girondists did not become right wing just because the Montagnards rose up even further to their left.

Considering we get the entire Left/Right terminology from the French Revolution, YES THEY GODDAMN DID.

They're both creatures of the left.

No. If this were true, the Girondists would have tried to go to the left of the Jacobins, because that's what creatures of the left do. Creatures of the left must be on the left. They must show that they are the more "innovative." This is why revolutions spiral out of control, because there is no stopping point. They must always outdo each other.

Blogger Jim August 12, 2015 12:55 PM  

Just to left of anarchists... you find libertarians. further to the left of them... you find actual american conservatives like you are talking about in the bible belt.

The furthest to the left are the Totalitarians. They come in different flavors but they really don't matter. They are all totalitiarians.


Fact: SJWs are totalitarians and anarchists. Do, you classify them as both far Right and far Left?

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 12:56 PM  

Tommy,

Read the fucking party platform of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Blogger Marissa August 12, 2015 1:01 PM  

What time period are you referring to?

PRE-1965.

But do keep using “Nazi” for the Left, it is good to see who is ignorant of history and who isn’t

They would have liquidated you and your backwards brethren after getting you chumps to fight the Russkies for them. The National Socialists were only half-heartedly LARPing as right-wingers.

Blogger Josh August 12, 2015 1:04 PM  

PRE-1965.

From 1850 to 1930, the percentage of foreign born population ranged from a low of 9.7% to a high of 14.8%

Blogger Tommy Hass August 12, 2015 1:04 PM  

"They would have liquidated you and your backwards brethren after getting you chumps to fight the Russkies for them. The National Socialists were only half-heartedly LARPing as right-wingers."

That's not my post, that's Arbiter from Chateau Heartiste.

Also, Nazis genuinely admired Turks and considered us honorary Aryans. Our leadership was among the least backward in the world. And we would've kicked their asses, most likely.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 1:05 PM  

Most bible believers in the south aren't right wing extremists.

Well, that too. But even the ones who are aren't any kind of monarchist.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 12, 2015 1:05 PM  

But do keep using “Nazi” for the Left, it is good to see who is ignorant of history and who isn’t."

Wow, Tommy, so you can quote one paragraph of Mein Kampf and ignore everything else about the Nazis record. Good for you!

Anonymous patrick kelly August 12, 2015 1:06 PM  

@190: " SJWs are totalitarians and anarchists"

No, they will appeal to and use the force and authority of gov't for their own purposes and interest, and this is smart on their part. Roosh's black knighting involves the same.


Reading this thread is confusing. I have learned:

I am not a true libertarian. ( known this for a while)
I am not a true christian.
I may not be a true barely ilk.

Maybe I don't exist?

Blogger Tommy Hass August 12, 2015 1:06 PM  

Alright then. They were left for their time but right by today's standards. Fair?

I mean, after all, if you believe in Rule of Law and deny that Louis the XIV was the state, you'd be a revolutionary leftwinger in 17th/18th century.

Blogger VFM bot #188 August 12, 2015 1:07 PM  

I stand with Wheeler too, mainly cause I hate to see anyone ganged up on by the cool people around here, like Nate and Josh. But big deal, right? Who the hell am I? A lousy VFM! Nobody!

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 12, 2015 1:07 PM  

SJWs and Leftists always try to make up their own definitions of words. That's the dead give away tell.

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