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Friday, August 07, 2015

Trump crushes feminist speech police

This is how you handle it when someone calls you sexist, misogynist, or whatever other label they seek to use to discredit, disqualify, or distract you:
MEGYN KELLY, FOX NEWS CHANNEL: Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter. However that is not without its downsides, in particular when it comes to women. You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. Your twitter account--

DONALD TRUMP: Only Rosie O'Donnell.

KELLY: For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O’Donnell.

TRUMP: I'm sure it was.

KELLY: Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women's looks. You once told a contesttent that it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees.

Does that sound like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?

And how do you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who is likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?

TRUMP: The big problem this country has is being politically correct. I've been challenged by so many people and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness. And to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either. This country is in big trouble. We don't win anymore. We lose to China, we lose to Mexico both in trade and at the border. We lose to everybody. Frankly what I say and oftentimes it's fun, it’s kidding, we have a good time. What I say is what I say. And honestly, Megyn if you don't like it, I'm sorry. I've been very nice to you although I could probably not be based on the way you have treated me, but I wouldn't do that. But you know what? We, we need strength, we need energy, we need quickness and we need brain in this country to turn it around. That I can tell you right now.
Megyn, YOU are a part of the big problem the USA has. Every SJW, every self-appointed thought policeman is a part of the problem. And it is time to start making sure that every time they try to play thought police, we cram that concept right down their throats.

"The big problem this country has is being politically correct." It's certainly one big problem that gets in the way of discussing any of the actual issues that matter.

It was good to see Trump put Kelly in her place. I have never understood the conservative affection for her. She's a feminist, she's PC, and she's pro-immigration, ergo she is on the other side.

That being said, good for her and Fox News for actually putting the candidates on the spot for a change.

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Blogger tridekka August 07, 2015 8:08 AM  

Look at her try to hold back a smile while her bitch shield recharges.

Blogger Salt August 07, 2015 8:09 AM  

Drudge has a poll going. Last I looked, it's Trump at 48% (197K votes). Only Cruz breaks into the double digits at 13%.

Loved the opening where Trump would not pledge to NOT run as an independent if not chosen.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 8:28 AM  

Megan piled on with the Rachel Dolezal look alike Wassermanschultz and "so much misogyny!"

The DNC is in the tank for grandma.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 8:29 AM  

Sometimes you're oblivious vox... She's hot and she hates Democrats. She is all girl.

How could conservatives not love her? Because she isn't perfect? Conservatives aren't libertarians. They are not looking for perfection

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 8:31 AM  

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Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 07, 2015 8:31 AM  

I'm beting Trump is just some sideshow fun for the Republicans to get some ratings before he withdraws and backs the real candidate they have in mind.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 8:31 AM  

@2 Salt
It was notable that the focus group was offended buy Trump not pledging especially after some of the biggest hits of the night had to do with the RNC apparatchik breaking faith with its voters after elected.

I guess they still haven't been beaten upon quite enough yet?

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 07, 2015 8:33 AM  

She's hot

8 of 10. There's something about her facial expressions that hangs me up.

Blogger Rantor August 07, 2015 8:33 AM  

As if he's never called men bad names?

Blogger YIH August 07, 2015 8:36 AM  

Nate:
Triple posting?

Blogger Patrick August 07, 2015 8:37 AM  

The knees comment is only bad if you have a dirty mind. Apparently, Megyn does.

Blogger JP August 07, 2015 8:38 AM  

KELLY: Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women's looks. You once told a contesttent that it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees.

Does that sound like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?

And how do you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who is likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?


Uhm... women on their knees didn't seem to be a problem for Hillary's husband.

Anonymous Roundtine August 07, 2015 8:39 AM  

Trump needs debate prep. He had some good lines, but also some unfocused answers. His best answer was on healthcare, saying insurance companies control the politicians and there should be a free market, and the Rand Paul misunderstood his answer as single payer, to which Trump said, "You're not doing too well tonight."

Blogger Jim August 07, 2015 8:40 AM  

I cheered when he threw that answer back at her. What a bitch. He also bitch-slapped that bitch Chris Wallace. Trump's ego is definitely no larger than theirs, he's just more honest about it. I'm not thrilled with idea of him being President, but I thought it was made clear last night that he is the best chance (but not a guaranteed one) of it not being just business as usual if a Republican does defeat the Cankles of Doom.

Anonymous Alfanerd August 07, 2015 8:40 AM  

Look at her try to hold back a smile while her bitch shield recharges.

Absolutely. She was reminded right then and there that Trump is no cuckservative. Beautiful reply. If Trump does nothing else, if he shows other republicans how to stand up to these bullies, his candidacy will have been extremely beneficial.

Anonymous cheddarman August 07, 2015 8:42 AM  

Sweet mother of all bitch slaps! gotta love the Donald!

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 07, 2015 8:42 AM  

I liked Laurie Dhue, Lauren Green, Martha Macallum, and ED Hill back in the early Fox days. I never got the impression from them that I get every time I see or hear Me-Gyn talk:

She wants everybody to know she's fertile and she's ready.

All I learned from that exchange was that she really wants to be the next Trump girlfriend. Even in the after show, she just kept reminding everyone she's the ovarian American present and she does indeed have ovaries.

Anonymous Anonymous August 07, 2015 8:43 AM  

Not a Trump fan, but I like this! He's right, all of this clueless, supercilious PC posturing has got to go! We simply have NO time for it!

Regards,
David Smith

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 8:44 AM  

"Sweet mother of all bitch slaps! gotta love the Donald!"

Something tells me you didn't actually watch the debate. Megyn fucked with him all night and most of the night he came off looking like an idiot.

Then again... he IS an idiot... so there's that.

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 07, 2015 8:52 AM  

Although she can still bully a Brit Hume who is 17 years off his peak and getting doddery into saying what she wants him to say, the only person she seemed at ease with last night was Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

Blogger rumpole5 August 07, 2015 8:54 AM  

@ "As if he's never called men bad names?" - EXACTLY! But then women don't want equal treatment in a fight because most women lack the "energy", "strength", "quickness" and "brain" to win an all out fight with a healthy man.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 8:59 AM  

"Although she can still bully a Brit Hume who is 17 years off his peak and getting doddery into saying what she wants him to say, the only person she seemed at ease with last night was Debbie Wasserman-Schultz."

Dude... you guys must have some filters on your tvs or something... because to me.. and a whole lot of other people... Megyn looked like she was having the time of her life. The girl was enjoying the hell out of it. The attention of the nation if not the world was all hers and she was eating it up. If anything especially in the lead up... they appeared to relaxed.

Blogger Shimshon August 07, 2015 9:02 AM  

The Recucks could have gone with a gentleman like Ron Paul. Now the best they're stuck with is Trump. How would Donald be worse than any of the other candidates? At least he's entertaining. He's also at least right on some of the issues, unlike the others, who don't seem to be right on any of them. However, I have no dog in this hunt.

Anonymous Anonymous August 07, 2015 9:06 AM  

Wall Street would never let Trump be President.

JohnR219

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:07 AM  

"How would Donald be worse than any of the other candidates? "

I note that Bobby Jindal focuses on all immigration as a problem.

I note that Trump focuses only on illegal immigration as a problem.

and yet here you all are... swinging from his jock because of tone.

We're talking about a yankee liberal here people. This is a guy who stood up there and told you Hilliary Care would've worked in 1993.

he's an idiot.

If you can't see he's an idiot... Then you're also an idiot.

Anonymous Athor Pel August 07, 2015 9:07 AM  

"4. Nate August 07, 2015 8:29 AM
Sometimes you're oblivious vox... She's hot and she hates Democrats. She is all girl.
How could conservatives not love her? Because she isn't perfect? Conservatives aren't libertarians. They are not looking for perfection


20. Nate August 07, 2015 8:44 AM
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Megyn fucked with him all night and most of the night he came off looking like an idiot.
Then again... he IS an idiot... so there's that."



Now I know how Solomon ended up worshipping idols. One boner at a time.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey August 07, 2015 9:09 AM  

Kelly is not particularly attractive, she's not even that articulate, but she's all the cuckservatives have.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:11 AM  

"Now I know how Solomon ended up worshipping idols. One boner at a time."

please. The fact that I understand why conservatives like her has nothing to do with my own perception of her. She's a liberal city girl. her girl power schtick gets on my nerves too.

That doesn't change the fact that Trump is an idiot.

Anonymous WillBest August 07, 2015 9:12 AM  

8 of 10. There's something about her facial expressions that hangs me up.

She is 44, what you are seeing is the product of minor cosmetic surgery and the best makeup artist money can buy.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:13 AM  

"Kelly is not particularly attractive, she's not even that articulate, but she's all the cuckservatives have."

really?

She's all they have?

Because from here it looks like they have... the Whole Republican Party... outside of perhaps Bobby Jindal and one or two others.

here's a hint.. by Vox's own standards Trump is a cuckservative.

Blogger CM August 07, 2015 9:17 AM  

Nate isn't a worshipper of Megyn. He's a hater of Trump and appreciates M's femininity.

Trump is a fire brand and i wish the GoP would catch on that his #s are high because he opens his mouth withour fear.

That they haven't figured that out yet is beyond me. They STILL think they need independenrs and stock democrats to win?? Screw stock conservatives. Democrats are the cool kids in school.

What happened to Walker? Some of these guy know how to engage the press but its almost like someone threatened their families with how tame they've been lately.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler August 07, 2015 9:22 AM  

Let me see, Donald brings up the immigration issue and changes everything. Attacks Political Correctness and then talks of China and Russia beating us, which they are, and he is an "idiot"? The man has been around the world and has countless foreign engagements. Knows business, rich doing it.

I don't think "idiot" is the word. But we do live in a Cultural Marxist environment. Look at what happened to Buchanan. Buchanan is smart and wise yet went know where and only got 600,000 votes.

The media, including Fox and all the Repubs are out to get Trump. The Repub establishment hates Trump. That is proof enough to vote for him.

Blogger Doom August 07, 2015 9:22 AM  

Yeah. I see Megyn as just another O'Reilly, just in a skirt. Then again, a) she is a female... they are what they are, I don't care what some cuckservative types wish to believe and b) she is part of the media, which is all thought police, all the time. She runs on estrogen fueled emotions. Her looks bought her access throughout her career. Trump though? Probably just another chickenshit Perot or Paul. Both, to my mind, meant simply to crack the conservative base. If they had really meant to make it, I think they could have. But either from fear, or because they meant to undermine the conservatives... Then again, not a terrible thing. Republicans aren't conservatives. Just moderate businessmen... in the same vein that most muslims are moderate... they won't blow anything up, but they will support, hide after the fact, and such. You know, moderate.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 9:22 AM  

#32 Megan is blonde. The yellow hair mesmerizes him.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:22 AM  

"Nate isn't a worshipper of Megyn. He's a hater of Trump and appreciates M's femininity."

Correct. I can't stand Trump. He's Mitt Romney with Joe Biden's mouth.

Blogger Marissa August 07, 2015 9:25 AM  

They should have gotten Tomi Lahren to mediate. The country wouldn't have to be subjected to the maiden aunting that Fox News harridans and metrosexuals love to get up to.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 07, 2015 9:25 AM  

I note that Bobby Jindal focuses on all immigration as a problem.

I note that Trump focuses only on illegal immigration as a problem.

and yet here you all are... swinging from his jock because of tone.


Let's face it; to make a difference at the national level, you can't just be right, you also need enough charisma and personal magnetism to make everyone pay attention to you. Trump isn't right on everything, but he can actually get things done. I don't see that as likely with Jindal.

And you're complaining about Trump not being a Southerner; Bobby Jindal's parents didn't come to America until after Mom was already pregnant with him. Went to school at Brown, fer cryin' out loud.

There isn't a perfect candidate. Rand Paul is good on a lot of stuff, but screwy on immigration. Ted Cruz says most of the right things, but has a hawkish neocon foreign policy. Trump is wrong on a lot of issue too, but I don't see how he's any worse than anyone else in the wings right now. He also seems like someone who is OK with developing talent and delegating to them, trusting their judgement. With the right Veep and the right Cabinet, he could potentially be the best president we've had since Coolidge. And if things go really well, he may well pave the way for an anti-establishment movement that won't peak with him.

I'm not blind to Trump's flaws, but he's got more going for him right now than anyone else in the race.

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 07, 2015 9:27 AM  

"appreciates M's femininity."

In her attempts to be the Female Bill O'Reilly, such as when she had to emotionally unload on Lou Dobbs for daring to agree with Juan Williams that single-mother-led households were not the sign of the new age especially for black people, she showed that she could look the part but could never act the part. Perhaps it's the Irish in her. I gave a list of women from Fox News before - and, yes, she's in the vein of the standard model Fox News blonde, but she acts like she's on a testosterone patch in a way that the golden age of Fox News women never did. I never liked Dana Perino's politics much, but she comes across as a whole lot more feminine in temperament, and Dana Perino can get angry without looking like she wants to throw a punch.

Then again, I thought the retreat to make Brit say Trump wasn't a gentleman was the classic ploy that should get the answer: Play the man's game, take your hits just the same.

Anonymous Peter Garstig August 07, 2015 9:27 AM  

She certainly is in there because of here brains.

Gotta sell what you have.

Anonymous Giuseppe The Kurgan August 07, 2015 9:28 AM  

I don't like Trump because he's an asshole in any case, and I see his reply here is ok, But still weak.
I think mine would have been:
"Well, I can see why Hillary would have a very personal problem with ANY woman younger and prettier than herself being on her knees in front of a man, and that means almost every woman on the planet from her perspective. What's your view on it Kelly? Do you hate giving head? Personally I enjoy both giving and receiving oral sex. Are you not in favour of women having orgasms?"

If he'd said that he might actually win. Though I don't expect him to actually run to the end.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 9:28 AM  

Nate, you're completely missing the point about Trump. He's changed the political dialogue in this country. He stated correctly on stage when he called out Fox News that nobody would be talking about immigration if he hadn't brought it up. Him talking about it the way he is, pointing out how we're only getting the worst and that they're murderers and rapists and that we need to send them all back, is unheard of and he's at the top of the polls because of it.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 07, 2015 9:29 AM  

Sometimes you're oblivious vox... She's hot and she hates Democrats. She is all girl.

Even hot girls say stupid things.

Blogger M Cephas August 07, 2015 9:33 AM  

I have sided with Donald Trump for President, though I was initially suspicious of his past donations to Democrats. He cleared that up pretty honestly, that it was all about running his business, so he has worked with politicians on both sides.

This response to Megyn Kelly was great as well. He isn't playing politics like a typical politician. And it's working.

Donald Trump, a famous multi-billionaire, comes off as more relatable to the average American than any of the other politicians.

Blogger Salt August 07, 2015 9:33 AM  

Trump isn't the best, but he's a hell of a lot better than the rest. Damn, but the man's been bankrupt 3 times (iirc) and came back. He's anit-illegal immigration though I have no clue as to what level of legal he might see as appropriate.

Look at what we've had over the last few decades. He's stirring the pot and that's a good thing.

Blogger JartStar August 07, 2015 9:36 AM  

Nate, even if Trump is no better than all of the rest at least he's entertaining when he does it. Besides he said Hillary had to come to his wedding because he gave her so much money. He admits he paid off the politicians and is blowing the pretense off from the whole charade.

This was supposed to be Jeb's and Hillary's showtime and Trump is like a grenade going off in the middle of it and for that alone I salute him even if he's doing it for his own amusement.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 9:36 AM  

Megan threw an obvious shit test at Trump. He handled it superbly, which is something he probably does instinctively given his wealth and former wives, and now Ms Megan is in the unfortunate position of mooning over a septuagenarian.

So far he has gotten the Bill Clinton pass for his handling of females. Will it hold? It will be interesting to see.

Anonymous Peter Garstig August 07, 2015 9:37 AM  

OT: Bring it on, Floyd.

Blogger Sad Puppy August 07, 2015 9:37 AM  

@26
We're talking about a yankee liberal here people.
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This is my biggest problem with DT. He is very entertaining, and if he was as presented, I wouldn't have a big problem with him. Some of these leftyish people can learn to change their minds over the course of 20+ years, as they are mugged by reality. Did that happen to Trump? I don't know. But no matter how much I agree with him, and enjoy his antics, the NY Yankee always comes back to mind.

After all, it was only a couple weeks ago they jumped on the rebel flag. That still has me steaming.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:40 AM  

'He handled it superbly, which is something he probably does instinctively given his wealth and former wives, and now Ms Megan is in the unfortunate position of mooning over a septuagenarian."

again... sounds like you didn't see the debate.

I don't think Megyn was mooning over him when she said, "Excatly when did you become a Republican?"

That part's being avoided by the Trump Fans... because he died right there on the stage when she said it.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler August 07, 2015 9:41 AM  

Bobby Jindal, Asian Indian. For President? Haven't we had enough of foreigners running America? No WASPs on the Supreme Court and a Kenyan Marxist as a President.

In order to lead a democracy, one has to have charisma. Trump has charisma which is a part of leadership. He ain't perfect. But if he puts a wall on the border---that is enough for me. Stop the illegals, send them ALL back. Operation Wetback II. And then start turning around this country. Next President should be able to be a Christian and then stop abortion.

I cast my vote for Trump. "Its meet that Greek rule Barbarian". No Jindal. No Carson. No Fiorina. (They are all good on the subjects but none of them can be my leader.)

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 07, 2015 9:41 AM  

Megan threw an obvious shit test at Trump. He handled it superbly, which is something he probably does instinctively given his wealth and former wives, and now Ms Megan is in the unfortunate position of mooning over a septuagenarian.

Love him or hate him, Trump is the only Alpha in the GOP side of the race. Ideologically, Cruz is my first choice, but he's mid-range Delta at best.

Blogger Patrikbc August 07, 2015 9:41 AM  

Trump is doing his job, he nicely fills the. Old left by Ross Perot, he is entertaining, says the stuff we want to hear...the stuff that pisses the libs off. Other than that, he is completely unelectable.

Blogger Marissa August 07, 2015 9:42 AM  

Let's face it; to make a difference at the national level, you can't just be right, you also need enough charisma and personal magnetism to make everyone pay attention to you.

beep boop please to be making me your president beep boop

Sadly, Bill Clinton's wife has more testosterone (and poundage) than Jindal.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:42 AM  

"Some of these leftyish people can learn to change their minds over the course of 20+ years, as they are mugged by reality. Did that happen to Trump? I don't know. "

The dude stood up there and flatly stated that Hillary Care would've worked in 1993.

What in that indicates that he is anything but an idiot liberal at heart?

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 9:42 AM  

Gosh, I wonder which one of them will save the world this time?

Blogger Sad Puppy August 07, 2015 9:43 AM  

@29

Please elaborate on why DJT is an idiot? I'd really like to know, as it seems unlikely to be as successful as he is being an idiot.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:45 AM  

"Bobby Jindal, Asian Indian. For President? Haven't we had enough of foreigners running America? "

/facepalm

People I am not saying you should vote for Bobby Jindal. I am pointing out that Trump didn't start this conversation about immigration and he's not even correct... and others out there are saying things far more plainly and effectively with far less fear, than he is.

Bobby Jindal didn't qualify his answer by talking about a big pretty door in the wall to let people in.


He said "Immigration without assimilation is invasion".

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 9:45 AM  

I haven't watched cable TV but a few hours in the last 5 years.

I was actually taken aback by how weak everyone appeared to be, moderators and candidates, and the commercials had degraded to the point you have to be a card carrying moron to relate.

This is the pinnacle of humanity at the height of our "evolution"?

Maybe I have given humanity too much credit?

We really are just a bunch of lying, suck up losers hell bent on making a dollar.

Blogger Sad Puppy August 07, 2015 9:46 AM  

@33
I actually voted for Buchanan in that election

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:46 AM  

"Please elaborate on why DJT is an idiot? I'd really like to know, as it seems unlikely to be as successful as he is being an idiot."

I already have. The man claimed that HillaryCare would've worked in 1993.

That is proof prima fascia that he's an idiot.

Anonymous FP August 07, 2015 9:46 AM  

"She is all girl."

Indeed. Her response to Lou Dobbs and Eric Erikson a couple of years ago was to turn into feminist whiny bitch because Erikson said kids do best with a stay at home mom. She took it personally as she sat there preggers with kid 3. Maybe that incident is what turned Erikson full cuckservative.

Liberals enjoyed cheering her on:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/05/31/dont-mess-with-megyn-kelly-on-the-topic-of-working-moms/

Blogger Tommy Hass August 07, 2015 9:47 AM  

In case this was directed at me: I already admitted that going "Yeah, I'm X/Y/Z, so what?" is sub optimal in this context.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 9:47 AM  

"Gosh, I wonder which one of them will save the world this time?"

obviously Donald Trump will! because not-pc!!

/facepalm

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 9:48 AM  

As far as Trump, Megan came out and kicked him in the nuts right as soon as the fight started.

It clearly took him by surprise and he was mad the rest of the night.

If he polishes up his act and gets a few different one-liners in his quiver that we haven't all heard ten times before, he will continue to rise.

As for what he really is, I don't know. It is obvious he didn't spend the last month repeating the same garbage in practice sessions, as did the others.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 9:49 AM  

They repeatedly tried to back him into a corner and get him say something stupid. And then some commentators have the nerve to say he gave some weak answers on polic? It's like they didn't even watch Kasich, Christie, Jeb, or Carson blather on and on about stuff nobody gives a shit about to run out the clock.

By the way, GOP "insiders" say that Rubio won, with Jeb coming in second and Trump in last. Same for a focus group from Fox. A Drudge poll on the other hand has Trump at 47% who think he won the debate, with Jeb and Rubio at the bottom.

These people could not be anymore out of touch with the people if they tried. This is what Trump is exposing without even realizing it, the utter lack of concern for and indifference towards conservative voters by the establishment.

Blogger JartStar August 07, 2015 9:49 AM  

Nate, I can't believe that you are actually bemoaning the facts that they aren't taking the serious candidate you like seriously and that you are acting like you expect any of those guys on the stage last night to be consistent in their politics over the last 20+ years.

Blogger JAY WILL August 07, 2015 9:51 AM  

Its all a scam that's what Trump has shown. There is no 2 party system. The donor class run it and open door immigration is an absolute locked in position for all of them. The repubs pretend to be against it and challenge things to make it look like there's a debate. You can tell they are all liars just by their facial expressions. There are no conservatives, its not about principles its about protecting wealth. Trump is actually shocking because he's one of the super rich, and has gone against this play the safe game and protect your wealth. Why would he do this other than principle? He's making a lot of enemies. It really is not that unlikely to see an assassination in my opinion. However, more likely they will find dirt on him and they will either destroy him, or he will back out once he realizes they have him beat.

Also, this Megyn Kelly "war on women" play should make it very clear what feminism really is. Its effectively men, grabbing hold of women to stick in front of them and effectively saying, "now you wouldn't want to hit a woman Jay would you, would u?" Its a more subtle version of putting schools up right next to arms bases so that the enemy will be evil child murderers if they attack them. People have an innate tendency to want to defend women, the lying fraud class use this as a tactical weapon. What needs to happen is the lying fraud class are "outed". THEY are put up on the fucking stage, and they are interrogated. But not by shills like Fox News but real people. But that ain't going to happen is it. If we knew everything that goes on behind close doors there's little doubt that a mass uprising would wipe them all out. For example, the FBI, judges etc have ZERO interest in doing anything about Clintons emails. Its again propaganda to make it look like there is something being done. They are ALL in on it collectively. The only way they will throw her under the bus is for damage limitation purposes, in the same way Nixon had to go to bury the corruption with him. Like its just one or 2 bad eggs and now everything's fine. And Nixon never even went to jail lol. The reason that can't happen is the donor class need the brown nosing politicians to know that they will ultimately look after them in the long run. Career might get shot down, but you will still be minted and can retire wealthy. Those loser cuckservatives who are MEANT to lose, are not losing personally they are getting rich on the back of their lies. Perhaps more complexity than what Ive said (competing donors with different interests) but its not far off the mark.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 9:52 AM  

@50 I don't think Megyn was mooning over him when she said, "Excatly when did you become a Republican?"

She read it right off the teleprompter like a good little girl. It carries no more weight than that.

Joe sixpack RNC doesn't hold former democrats responsible for their past idiocy and welcomes them like they are born again. That's only a big deal to those who realize the pathological level of idiocy required to be leftist and that ain't on Joe sixpack RNC's radar.

Blogger JartStar August 07, 2015 9:52 AM  

@66 I'm not surprised the insiders said Rubio won. The neocons love that guy and the's owned by them lock, stock, and barrel. I believe he's up to five countries he's already stated he believes the US needs to invade. I think Jeb will be a disaster on immigration, but maybe, just maybe he won't listen to the neocons as he saw how they wrecked his brother's presidency. That's the best thing I can say about him--he probably won't be a neocon.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 9:53 AM  

RED ALERT NEWS FLASH!

Fox was instructed to destroy Donald Trump. The Republican Party is trying to destroy him.

And they want him to pledge his allegiance to the party and he wouldn't. As far as he is concerned they aren't loyal to him.

Reality is being turned on it's head as usual. Trump speaks truth, and that has no place in our government.

The power structure wants Trump destroyed and the right is complicit in that endeavor.

For no other reason than that I am supporting Trump at this time. He is at least pushing all the others to the right and forcing them to take positions they otherwise would never take.


Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 9:55 AM  

Before y'all start lining up to get trump kneepads, look at his post debate whining.

Only at 11:30 p.m. did Trump emerge, into a swarm of reporters who started by simply asking how he felt he did.

"I thought their questions to me were much tougher than to other people, and I respect that, but I really enjoyed the evening," Trump said. "The questions to me were far tougher, and that I supposedly -- according to what everyone is telling me, and the call-ins and everything, I won. But the questions to me were not nice. I didn't think they were appropriate. And I thought Megyn behaved very badly, personally."

He was referring to Megyn Kelly, the Fox News host who asked a question that won Trump some of his biggest laughter and applause.

"You've called women you don't like 'fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals,'" Kelly said.

"Only Rosie O'Donnell," joked Trump. When the laughter died down, Trump decried "political correctness" and told Kelly he had "been very nice" to her and could always change his mind. Two hours later, he was still stewing.

"I thought it was an unfair question," said Trump in the spin room. "They didn't ask those questions of anybody else. So I thought it was an unfair question. But you know what? The answers were good, obviously, because everyone thinks I won."

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 9:55 AM  

The best thing about the night is the Jebba the Hutt was shown to be the lightweight that he has always been.

Jeb Bush is done.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 9:55 AM  

"That part's being avoided by the Trump Fans... because he died right there on the stage when she said it."

/facepalm

His numbers are through the roof, Nate. Nobidy is shocked that a man from New York was raised a Democrat. We all knew that, it's not a secret. He said his positions on things changed. He may be lying, he may not be, but it didn't hurt him and he's said much in recent years that conservatives agree with.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 9:56 AM  

For no other reason than that I am supporting Trump at this time. He is at least pushing all the others to the right and forcing them to take positions they otherwise would never take.

Name one position he's forcing them to take.

Blogger Lockestep August 07, 2015 9:56 AM  

Personally I thought Carly slapping down Chris Matthews was the best video of the night.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 07, 2015 9:57 AM  

Talking issues without dismantling PC, but then again what would conservative intellectuals do with their time if they couldn't spend their time trying to be the top of the heap in their little circles

Anonymous George of the Jungle August 07, 2015 9:57 AM  

Trump cannot even begin to change the political landscape unless he goes the distance. If he drops out at any point prior to the ballot box, then he will be excoriated as having had flaky motivations all along.

If somebody shows some real courage, especially when he's talking about the things that deeply concern you, then he doesn't have to be 100% coherent 100% of the time. Maybe, just maybe, he's the one you should be following to charge up that hill and take it for our side.

Blogger JartStar August 07, 2015 9:58 AM  

@61 Nate, he gave money to Hillary in the past. How is that not worse? He admitted last night he paid off who he needed to, and said what he needed to in order to make a buck. He worked the system and is now admitting to it. That's not virtuous, but at least he's not pretending about how the system works.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 9:58 AM  

Josh, have you heard about illegal immigration?

Marco Rubio said he wants a wall built on the border.

Did you miss that? And if you heard it, you would assert he would have said that if Trump had never entered the race?

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 10:00 AM  

@Josh

Thats not whining. Her questions were retarded, she asked nothing important and came across as being bitchy. I wanted to hear tough policy questions, not "you've said mean things about women." He's right, they weren't appropriate, the whole thing was a clown show and I'm disappointed in Fox for it.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:01 AM  

At the end of the day Trump is a serious businessman and he has nothing but contempt for the shallowness of the process and Washington in total.

His disdain shows every time he has to answer one of their "gotcha" questions, which are all designed to relegate him to the ash bin as quickly as can be done...

so the charade can be treated as serious once again.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:01 AM  

"Nate, I can't believe that you are actually bemoaning the facts that they aren't taking the serious candidate you like seriously and that you are acting like you expect any of those guys on the stage last night to be consistent in their politics over the last 20+ years."

That's a very strange statement... since I don't support any candidate at all.

if I were going to rank them Trump wouldn't be close to last.. and Jindal wouldn't be close to first.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:03 AM  

Megyn Kelly had gotcha questions for Trump. They weren't serious. She hated that he dare stand up to her. She forgot this wasn't about her.

Her mission: "The powers that be need to destroy Trump with white women. Megyn, do you accept this mission".

Blogger JartStar August 07, 2015 10:04 AM  

Nate, you just don't like the guy because he dates hotter women.

Anonymous grey enlightenment August 07, 2015 10:04 AM  

the issue is, will he follow through or drop-out as he as done every time before.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:04 AM  

"Thats not whining. Her questions were retarded, she asked nothing important and came across as being bitchy."

really?

Asking about the fact that he's been a liberal his whole life is not important? considering he's running for office in a party that's known for faking right while moving left? You don't think that's important?

You don't think its important that he donated to Hillary's campaign? Called himself pro-life? supported an assault weapons ban, and oh by the way, didn't deny supporting it still?

None of that is important?

Fascinating. Tell us what else is not important.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:05 AM  

Josh, have you heard about illegal immigration?

Marco Rubio said he wants a wall built on the border.

Did you miss that? And if you heard it, you would assert he would have said that if Trump had never entered the race?


Rubio has mentioned a border fence since at least 2013.

RUBIO: Well, three things. First of all, a universal e-verify system which means you won't be able to find a job in the US if you can't pass that check. Second, an entry-exit system-- 40% of our immigration are people that enter legally and then overstay their visas. We don't really know who they are, because we don't track even when they leave. And third is real border security including fencing. And all three of these things are going to happen because they are triggers for the green card process. That's the incentive to ensure they happen. In essence, for those who are undocumented, they'll have to wait 10 years, and also wait until those three things are fully implemented.
Source: CNN SOTU 2013 interview series: 2016 presidential hopefuls , Apr 14, 2013

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:05 AM  

"Megyn Kelly had gotcha questions for Trump."

They had gotcha questions for all of them. And most of them up there handled those gotcha questions much better than Trump did.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:07 AM  

"the issue is, will he follow through or drop-out as he as done every time before. "

He'll drop out when his job is done... and his job... is to deflect heat from Jeb Bush... and to set him up as the nominee.

Blogger Owen August 07, 2015 10:07 AM  

C'mon. Trump?

He's an opportunist and is out for Trump first and foremost. He has the principles of a crony capitalist.

Trump cannot be seriously considered presidential material. Not unless you're in the "burn it down faster" camp.

I'm not trying to call Trump supporters naïve, but how old are you guys? Do you not remember his antics and political camp swapping, whenever convenient?

He is portrayed as an outsider, but is exactly the personality the establishment loves. Huge on ego, short on principles, and always ready to make a deal to achieve a legacy.

He will never get the nod. If he does, that shouldn't warm your heart. It should scare the sh!t out of you, because it means the GOP establishment reached a backdoor deal with him. They will never allow anyone but an establishment guy to lead the ticket.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:07 AM  

Asking about the fact that he's been a liberal his whole life is not important? considering he's running for office in a party that's known for faking right while moving left? You don't think that's important?

You don't think its important that he donated to Hillary's campaign? Called himself pro-life? supported an assault weapons ban, and oh by the way, didn't deny supporting it still?


None of those are important because wall and SUCCESSFUL BIDNESSMAN.

Blogger JAY WILL August 07, 2015 10:08 AM  

Tiny Tim

"For no other reason than that I am supporting Trump at this time. He is at least pushing all the others to the right and forcing them to take positions they otherwise would never take."

Politicians can take up positions all they like, it doesn't mean they will actually do what they say. Look at the UK Cameron keeps on banging on about an EU referendum but him and his backers whoever they are (ten years after power he will be absolutely minted just like Blair) don't want out of the EU. I don't know what their end game is but leaving the EU is out of the question. So its how they can tactically keep the anti EU population at bay, feed them scraps etc to make them think there is actually any debate. All the debate is done privately. Parliamentary debate is just a show. The whole UK MSM will go big on "leaving the EU will lead to financial ruin" when push comes to shove. Scare the plebs into taking conservative positions.

Blogger Fatherless August 07, 2015 10:10 AM  

Tingles?

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:10 AM  

Josh, if you aren't aware that Trump has pushed all of the candidates out of their comfort zones and have forced them to take more forceful, conservative positions, then you can't be helped.

He has driven the national debate on immigration the last few weeks and he has moved the whole country further right on the issue.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:10 AM  

" He said his positions on things changed. He may be lying, he may not be, but it didn't hurt him and he's said much in recent years that conservatives agree with. "

He said, Single Payer would've worked in a different era. He was referring to HilllaryCare in 1993.

That's not a change hoss.

He thought it would work back then, and he still thinks it would have worked.

Keep making excuses for ya boy.

Blogger Owen August 07, 2015 10:11 AM  

Pushing candidates to the Right?

Tim, it's the primaries.

If Trump magically vanished, all the candidates tack to the Right.

In the Dem primary, candidates tack to the Left.

Come general election, both candidates "moderate."

Why are you giving Trump credit for a phenomenon that happens every four years?

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:12 AM  

Josh, if you aren't aware that Trump has pushed all of the candidates out of their comfort zones and have forced them to take more forceful, conservative positions, then you can't be helped.

What are these more forceful conservative positions?

Name some.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 07, 2015 10:12 AM  

...he man's been bankrupt 3 times (iirc) and came back...

Something tells me that sort of experience might be useful for the FedGov in the near future...

I disagree with Nate, Trump is not an idiot. He is something of a buffoon though. But I'm not incredibly concerned with policy positions at the moment - policy isn't going to do shit for the mess we're in. The most important thing right now is attitude. The segment of America that's been going along with all the PC crap and letting the SJWs run the show out of fear of being called badthinkers needs an attitude adjustment. The people who actually do shit and make things work need to learn to be openly contemptuous of the leftist freakshow. Trump has that part down - nobody else running does.

I'm not sure he has anything else worthwhile to offer, but I don't think anything else will work without the attitude. We're not going to pussyfoot our way out of the train wreck.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:12 AM  

"He has driven the national debate on immigration the last few weeks and he has moved the whole country further right on the issue. "

yeah... sure... because immigrants killing people hasn't been in the news at all.

Timmy.. you've already admitted you don't watch the news on tv.

I know its a surprise to you.. but there have been conservatives talking much tougher than Trump on immigration for a long long time.

Blogger Alexander August 07, 2015 10:12 AM  

I like Trump for the same reason I like Sanders:

We were supposed to have a Clinton-Bush coronation. The media wanted it. The Republicans and The Democrats wanted it. The Banksters wanted it. I'd still bet on it happening.

But Trump and Sanders showed up. The didn't knock, didn't beg for an invite; they just walked into the middle of the room and dropped a turd in the punchbowl.

Given that there's a greater chance of Natalie Dormer showing up on my front doorstep wearing nothing but a Confederate flag and inquiring whether I'd like to treat her tonsils like a pinata, than any candidate on either side obtaining the presidency and willing and able to use it to stop the empire's social, fiscal, and demographic collapse...

... I'm going to settle for enjoying the looks of dismay, and cheer on the fellows doing it.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:13 AM  

"What are these more forceful conservative positions?

Name some."

assault weapons bans!

oh wait... he's for that...

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:15 AM  

Yeah, OK Nate... it was on the front page when Trump brought it up and he was just jumping on the immigration bandwagon. Yeah... right. I must've missed all of that because I don't watch Fox News.



Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:15 AM  

Google Trends news articles mentioning immigration

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:15 AM  

"We were supposed to have a Clinton-Bush coronation. The media wanted it. The Republicans and The Democrats wanted it. The Banksters wanted it. I'd still bet on it happening."

the fascinating thing is... you don't see that Trump is actually an integral part of that coronation.

Trump is here to take the heat off Jeb. For crying out loud... He handled Jeb with kid gloves last night. He attacked Dubya... but note before he did he praised Jeb.

You think that's an accident?

Trump is playing a role people. He's the tank drawing aggro for Jeb.

Blogger Owen August 07, 2015 10:15 AM  

He has driven the national debate on immigration the last few weeks and he has moved the whole country further right on the issue.

He hasn't moved the country.

The country is there already.

He can't influence the nation's opinion. He can bang the drum. I'll give him credit for it.

However, if he wasn't, there are a bunch of candidates who would and they'd be doing so in a less attention-grabbing (which does generate more national conversation), but more serious tone.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:18 AM  

If Nate and Josh aren't aware that he has driven the dialogue for the most part since he entered the race, then I guess I just need to watch more Fox News so I can be enlightened.

Trump is a trouble maker and he is destroying the virtual reality the elites have constructed where they control the political process and ALL politicians in power.

Trump is saying what needs to be said. Granted, he needs to practice the next debate more than 5 minutes.

Take Trump out of this and tell me how it would have gone last night?

Blogger M Cephas August 07, 2015 10:18 AM  

"Rubio has mentioned a border fence since at least 2013."

Did he say the immigrants are destroying our culture, raping our people, costing us jobs, and bringing in drugs? If he wasn't willing to say that, he wasn't saying what Trump was saying.

"None of that is important?

Fascinating. Tell us what else is not important."

The only thing important is if he is actually serious about getting the job done regarding immigration.

Anonymous The other robot August 07, 2015 10:19 AM  

He'll drop out when his job is done... and his job... is to deflect heat from Jeb Bush... and to set him up as the nominee.

Another dose of Bush should do nicely to accelerate the downhill slide.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:19 AM  

"Take Trump out of this and tell me how it would have gone last night? "

All the other candidates would've been focused on taking out Jeb.. and they would've done so.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:20 AM  

Did he say the immigrants are destroying our culture, raping our people, costing us jobs, and bringing in drugs? If he wasn't willing to say that, he wasn't saying what Trump was saying.


Read the exchange between Tiny Tim and myself. It was specifically about a border wall.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:20 AM  

Nate, Bush is done. Did you not watch the debate.

The power structure will shift to Rubio.

Hide and watch.

Blogger IM2L844 August 07, 2015 10:20 AM  

Trump is clearly out of his depth. He's good at what he's good at and he's bringing attention to things that need attention, but he will be irrelevant by the time the big show rolls around. I don't believe he will waste his money on a third party run and I don't expect he will get the sort of outside financial backing necessary to make a proper go of it. He'll shrug it off and milk the exposure like a good business man should.

Anonymous BigGaySteve August 07, 2015 10:21 AM  

The knees comment is only bad if you have a dirty mind. Apparently, Megyn does.

She has probably never scrubbed a floor.

If Trump builds a border fence he will do more for western civilization than any conservative since Ray gun. If crimigrents keep flooding in & voter fraud as battleground TX & acorn by project VERITAS continues there will be no America. Even with Battleground Texas being taken out the right didn't force them to purge the info they illegally gained so the left still won with that. Trump has said that having to donate to all of the politicians is a bad situation & that by following the law his HR people have their hands tied with getting rid of illegals.

Megyn looked like she was having the time of her life. The girl was enjoying the hell out of it. The attention of the nation

The only thing she would have enjoyed more is if Trump got up and spanked her on live TV.


The dude stood up there and flatly stated that Hillary Care would've worked in 1993.

Some people are post 911 republicans. They kept thinking their liberal friends didn't really hate America until they saw after the attack that they really did. Lets say you hear Bill Clinton say he hates his wife every day but don't believe him until he does nothing while she is being mugged, then you know he really does hate his wife. Hillerycare could have worked if we where an all white nation like the European nations that made it work and are now falling apart because of more sickly non Asian minorities that are non compliant patients. Asians and whites had been better off before Ocare because they could buy catastrophic coverage for big stuff until they hit 50 or have kids unless there was some family history.

Blogger Marissa August 07, 2015 10:21 AM  

All the other candidates would've been focused on taking out Jeb.. and they would've done so.

Like there's any need to do so. Jeb is a weak candidate who's gotten the biggest bag of Wall Street money out of the lot of them. Even that can't buy him white votes, because he's a traitor to his race and to his nation.

Blogger Salt August 07, 2015 10:22 AM  

@67 Jartstar

Bingo!

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:23 AM  

If Trump builds a border fence he will do more for western civilization than any conservative since Ray gun.

Reagan signed the amnesty bill you mongoloid.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 10:24 AM  

"Asking about the fact that he's been a liberal his whole life is not important? considering he's running for office in a party that's known for faking right while moving left? You don't think that's important?"

"
All his fans have known he was raised a Democrat, but its inaccurate to say he was a liberal his whole life. He supported Reagan and has donated to both parties for what he claims was purely business. His position on guns in wishy-washy, which means he probably is weak on gun rights but at this point it doesn't matter. There's so many guns in private hands and nobody, not even Trump, can do anything about that. He wouldn't risk alienating his base by coming out against them either.

So no, I don't care about the fact that he was raised a Dem, positions can change and perhaps some of his have. The point is, he's not a politician and so that means we shouldn't automatically assume everything he says is a lie. Trump is not perfect and I fully expect him to blow it before nomination time, but so far he's been saying what counts: illegal immigration is a problem and they need to be sent back. Coulter's right, no other issue matters when we're being invaded.

"You don't think its important that he donated to Hillary's campaign? Called himself pro-life? supported an assault weapons ban, and oh by the way, didn't deny supporting it still?"

He said it was a business move. I can believe that. He's a businessman who wanted some political help. Virtuous? No, not at all. But I'm not expecting perfection from somebody who's been married three times either. And he says he's pro-life now. Again, positions can change. He supported the assault rifle ban. What are his positions on guns now? Do you know? Here's what he says on it in a recent interview:

"I certainly stand by my opposition to Gun Control when it comes to taking guns from law-abiding citizens."

"Gun control does not reduce crime. It has consistently failed to stop violence. Americans are entitled to protect their families, their property and themselves. In fact, in right-to-carry states the violent crime rate is 24% lower than the rest of the United States and the murder rate is 28% lower. This should not be up for debate."

"The Second Amendment is a bedrock natural right of the individual to defend self, family, and property. It is a ridiculous notion to ever repeal it."

"I do not support expanding background checks. The current background checks do not work.”

“They make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to acquire firearms while consistently failing to stop criminals from getting guns. We should re-examine our policy to make sure that these prohibitions do not impede law abiding citizens from exercising their Second Amendment rights."

"Gun magazine limits do not make common sense. I have long opposed such limits."

"As Commander-in-Chief, I would mandate that soldiers remain armed and on alert at our military bases."

Seems pretty good to me. He could be lying, but if Trump tries the gun control route he would lose major with the public. It's simply non-negotiable.

Blogger automatthew August 07, 2015 10:25 AM  

Jarstar @79: "He worked the system and is now admitting to it. "

Not only admitting to it, he's turned it into a weapon.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:26 AM  

We all know what we see and hear from Trump and see and hear how all the candidates and the news outlets have had to react to Trump... not Bush, not Rubio, not Hillary... TRUMP.

Josh and Nate don't want us to trust our lying eyes about the role Trump has played the last few weeks, and it has been hugely significant and has driven the discussion to the right from the center left.

Your hate and distrust of Trump is clouding your judgment.

He also diminished Megan Kelly last night. She needed to be put in her place.

Blogger praetorian August 07, 2015 10:26 AM  

Trump is the shitpost of this election.

In a time of universal SJWs, shitposting is a revolutionary act.

Blogger Salt August 07, 2015 10:28 AM  

It's all entertainment, guys. Nothing else. It's popcorn with extra butter, salt to taste. The last thing I do is take any of it seriously. People here keep talking about what end-game will look like. Last night we all saw another act of it.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:29 AM  

Josh and Nate don't want us to trust our lying eyes about the role Trump has played the last few weeks, and it has been hugely significant and has driven the discussion to the right from the center left.

Trump has driven the discussion to trump.

How is that driving the discussion to the right?

OpenID johnwilsonbach August 07, 2015 10:29 AM  

Trump could have said, "I've called men those things too. So what? Next question."

Blogger automatthew August 07, 2015 10:30 AM  

"How is that driving the discussion to the right?"

The right is anything that's not left.

Blogger Owen August 07, 2015 10:31 AM  

A candidate for the "conservative" party gave money to a clearly Leftist, socialist, feminist Hillary Clinton. he explains it as a purely "ends justify the means" move. That's not "ends justify the means." That's "I'll sell my soul to have access to power."

And folks think this guy's a man of principle now?

Bizarro world.

Blogger Underwater Operative August 07, 2015 10:33 AM  

My analysis:

We like Trump because he talks shit and doesn't give a damn.

Megyn Kelly is hot. I don't care for her girl power crap; however, she asked good and valid questions. IMO, her misogynist question played to Trumps advantage. I don't give a damn if she read them from a teleprompter.

Even though Trump is fun for keks, he's still a liberal idiot.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 10:33 AM  

"He said, Single Payer would've worked in a different era. He was referring to HilllaryCare in 1993."

He said it could have worked in a different age and that he wants a private system now that allows for interstate competition between insurance companies. He did say that we have to take care of people who can't take care of themselves. Again, they should have hammered him on what he thinks now and not what he thought twenty years ago.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:35 AM  

The right is anything that's not left.

If trump is a leftist, though, and he's driving the discussion to trump, wouldn't that be driving it left?

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:37 AM  

Josh, I concede.

Your powers of persuasion have left me spent.

Trump has had no effect. The candidates did not have to fine tune their positions to get more in line with Trumps right wing diatribe.

Trump did not get discussions going on uncomfortable topics that were verboten before he moved it to the forefront.

Trump is not the most searched candidate of both parties on the internet. That is obviously a lie.

His positions were not being discussed by the Mexicans, Cubans, and Puerto Ricans I come into contact with daily. I only imagined that. They were really talking about Bush, Rubio etc (they don't even know who they are... or did I just imagine that?)

I stand corrected.

Trump has had zero effect on the process.

Have a good day.

Blogger M Cephas August 07, 2015 10:38 AM  

"Read the exchange between Tiny Tim and myself. It was specifically about a border wall."

Yes, I know you said he was talking about building a border wall back before Trump. Plenty of people have talked about building a wall, or securing the border in the past.

I was just pointing out why Trump has proven himself different than those before him. His language is very different.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 10:40 AM  

I suspect Trump hired a consultant to find him a big issue to tap into and the seething resentment about immigration was it.

We have all played "guess the race" with crime reporting and it is obvious from the establishment expectation that Trump would evaporate quickly after pounding on criminal immigrants that he went off their script.

Is he another Perot? Chances are that answer is, "Yes". But, who knows the minds of billionaires? Looking past a predictably competitive drive they might do anything at anytime and they must have towering egos.

You can't buy the kind of entertainment that was had when Trump said he paid Hillary to come to some party.

Blogger Owen August 07, 2015 10:41 AM  

Tiny Tim,
In EVERY GOP primary, the candidates play to the base and tack to the Right.

If Trump never existed, they would be tacking to the Right and even discuss illegal immigration.

He's just the guy who caught the media's attention with the issue. He's not a thought leader or national influence in the discussion.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 07, 2015 10:41 AM  

One thing I would like to point out is that Trump isn't lying.

Usually politicians are lying, especially in these debates. Sure, you can pick your favorite and assume that he or she isn't lying but at the end of the day, politicians are like SJWs in this regard.

The fact that Trump was trouncing the PC crowd indicates that he's not a liar.

Anonymous Poli_Mis August 07, 2015 10:42 AM  

Nate,
No jock swinging on my part. I LOVED seeing Trump in the debate last night. I love seeing anyone attempt to pierce the veil of fascist PC. And calling out the media is always in style.

Since I've given up believing in a political solution ever working, I can at least enjoy some of spectacle.

All the candidates last night (both debates) can hold hands and jump into a fire together for all I care. Ron Paul was the last candidate I cared about.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:42 AM  

Trump has had no effect. The candidates did not have to fine tune their positions to get more in line with Trumps right wing diatribe.

What positions? Can you name any?

Blogger Miguel D'Anconia August 07, 2015 10:43 AM  

Megyn, get me a beer and iron my shirt bitch.

Anonymous praetorian August 07, 2015 10:44 AM  

Josh and Nate are acting like the point of this Most Important Election Ever is principles or winning or abilities or policy or something, not the kekz.

The fact that Megan is pretty hot and occasionally says mean things about democrats is distracting many normally solid shitlords.

Anonymous FP August 07, 2015 10:44 AM  

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/629553612839124992

He retweets a message calling Kelly a bimbo. Top kek. Just the entertainment value here makes his candidacy worthwhile.

Why should I care about what he really believes in at this point? Has the GOP actually done anything they said they would since 2010?

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:44 AM  

All the candidates last night (both debates) can hold hands and jump into a fire together for all I care. Ron Paul was the last candidate I cared about.

To quote yoda, there is another...

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 10:45 AM  

Owen: "He's just the guy who caught the media's attention with the issue. He's not a thought leader r national influence in the discussion."

You just contradicted yourself, but oh well who is counting.

Restated: "He got the media to discuss immigration but he is not driving the discussion".

Is that a fair restatement of your position?

Blogger M Cephas August 07, 2015 10:45 AM  

"And folks think this guy's a man of principle now?

Bizarro world."

I don't think anybody really thinks that, and I don't think anybody gives a shit either. He can snort coke and bang hookers in the White House for all I care.

As long as he deals with the immigration problem.

Blogger automatthew August 07, 2015 10:45 AM  

Trump's obviously not "a leftist", Josh. Good leftists do not say the things he says. Whether he has some left-liberal positions is another matter entirely.

He's not the buffoon we need, but he's the buffoon we deserve.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 10:46 AM  

"If trump is a leftist, though, and he's driving the discussion to trump, wouldn't that be driving it left?"

Possibly. The only reason he's as popular as he is is because he talked very tough on immigration, and still does, and that he refuses to take shit from people. If he came out and said, "illegal immigration is an act of love", he would PLUMMET and be out before October.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:47 AM  

From Reason:

Which candidate was most shafted by the structure of the Fox News Republican presidential debate on Thursday night? That would be Sen. Rand Paul, who was given vastly less talking time than the rest of the candidates.

Paul received just under 5 minutes of talking time, the least of any of the 10 participants in the debate.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 10:47 AM  

"He's not the buffoon we need, but he's the buffoon we deserve."

It'd be nice not having a sackless piece of shit in office for a change.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 10:48 AM  

"That would be Sen. Rand Paul, who was given vastly less talking time than the rest of the candidates."

Paul would have dominated if Trump wasn't there. He has tremendous charisma, he just needs to focus more on immigration. Its the spot people feel he's weak on and he needs to come out hard against it.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:48 AM  

"Josh and Nate are acting like the point of this Most Important Election Ever is principles or winning or abilities or policy or something, not the kekz."

/facepalm

Son... I was writing that voting in national elections was a sign of stupidity in 2005.

And now you want to pull that bullshit with me?


Who bitch this is?

Blogger Mark Citadel August 07, 2015 10:48 AM  

Elections do not solve the problem. Democracy itself is the problem. Trump is fun to humiliate the politician class with, but let's not delude ourselves. This whole system has to actually burn before anything meaningful happens.

Anonymous RedJack #22 August 07, 2015 10:49 AM  

People will respect, to borrow a phrase, the strong horse. Trump is projecting strength.

We are at the stage where the democracy dies. People want a strong man. Trump may not be that guy, but he can see the fact that people want strength.

On the other side of the coin, Sanders is making real gains. The Bush/Clinton machine is working overtime trying to figure out how to destroy their respective threats.

If this continues, I expect that a move will be made on Trump or Sanders. First they will try the media, but after last night I am not sure that will work. By November... Well I hope they have their affairs in order.

An entertaining little civil war.

Anonymous A Visitor August 07, 2015 10:51 AM  

My sister (who subscribes to some aspects of feminism) kept getting pissed off last night every time people lashed out at Megyn Kelly. It was beautiful!

"I'm beting Trump is just some sideshow fun for the Republicans to get some ratings before he withdraws and backs the real candidate they have in mind."

Though it's foolhardy (I'll admit) to predict what is going to happen 14 months before the election, for the moment, I truly believe that Trump is serious, not just some side show. Time will tell.

" I thought it was made clear last night that he is the best chance (but not a guaranteed one) of it not being just business as usual if a Republican does defeat the Cankles of Doom."

Well that FBI probe is criminal now. Per the law, she could face a year in prison for each classified e-mail she sent/kept or be fined. Prison, as sweet as that'd be, is unlikely. A slap on the wrist fine would be nice to see that she didn't completely get away with it.

"If Trump does nothing else, if he shows other republicans how to stand up to these bullies, his candidacy will have been extremely beneficial. "

That's what explained to people I was watching the debate with last night. You stand up to these people, not backtrack and apologize.

"She wants everybody to know she's fertile and she's ready."

Well she's divorced and re-married. Damaged goods.

@26 Nate He did mention that no one was talking about illegal immigration before he entered the race. So, he's got that going for him. Having said that, his past positions do make me wary. Also, don't think guys that you'll hear any candidate calling for reduced legal immigration. To quote Laurence Fishburne in The Matrix, "You have to understand, most people are not ready to be unplugged yet."

"She is 44, what you are seeing is the product of minor cosmetic surgery and the best makeup artist money can buy." BURN!

"What happened to Walker? Some of these guy know how to engage the press but its almost like someone threatened their families with how tame they've been lately."

Probably the NSA + not wanting to lose the minority vote

"If Trump builds a border fence he will do more for western civilization than any conservative since Ray gun."

Immigration law in this country has not been enforced for as long as I've been alive (28, going on 29 at year's end). Immigration is pretty much the issue for me now. Lower taxes and a strong military don't mean diddly. It may very well be too late, but I bet by the time I'm 40, there will be a plurality of whites and blacks against immigration, not illegal aliens, but immigration, period, and it will be so open nobody will be able to get into public office without at least giving lip service from both sides of the aisle and having a track record showing they've taken steps against it. Finally, I'm sick of people saying the Democrats tricked Reagan. He signed amnesty into law. Like Dear Leader, he has to own it. On a last note about it to all the candidates, stop invoking him or saying you're the next incarnation. The man's been dead for 11 years.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:51 AM  

Tell me... oh valiant defenders of the Trump...

If Trump is so brave... and so thoroughly un PC... Why exactly did he run like a scared bitch to disassociate himself from Borders?

you know... the state campaign guy that said mean things about muslims on facebook?

Where is your brave brave sir donald now?

Anonymous BGS August 07, 2015 10:51 AM  

Trump has smashed the Overton Window, like when Bruce Jenner transitions into being a woman driver- broken glass everywhere

kneepads, look at his post debate whining.

He has called out every reporter that came at him with bad attitude and slanted statements passing as questions. Seriously I thought Fox news must have accidently gotten the teleprompter for the leftists.

70. Blogger JartStar August 07, 2015 9:52 AM @66 I'm not surprised the insiders said Rubio won.

He wants to increase legal immigration by 500%

Jeb Bush is done. His wife is on the campaign trail for him, the only English she knows is "De Plane Boss De Plane"

@75 JoshName one position he's forcing them to take.

He isn't forcing them into a position, he is showing people they willingly got on their knees in front of Sheldon Anderson & the Chamber of Commerce.

Nate, you just don't like the guy because he dates hotter women

Trumps women have more expensive guns than glocks.

yeah... sure... because immigrants killing people hasn't been in the news at all.

Not the news the leftists watch, how many leftists do you think know about the 8yo white girl Madelyn raped to death by a Hispanic in the sanctuary city San Francisco and seen on video being tossed into a dumpster while Lamestream covered the Cecilthelion? Then leftists defended the Mexican saying he was too stupid to understand what he is doing, who is older than the Duggar boy they criticized.
Here is a link http://www.libertynewsnow.com/liberals-defend-teen-who-raped-and-murdered-little-girl/article1908

Google Trends news articles mentioning immigration is not only good but immigrents commit less crime (than blacks with criminal records), pot shots at mean law enforcers, & emotional old bald man with MS-13 tats claiming to be a child.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 10:51 AM  

@145 Paul received just under 5 minutes of talking time, the least of any of the 10 participants in the debate.

Would have been just under 6 minutes had he not given a 10 seconds chicken shit quip on the gay marriage question.

Blogger David-093 August 07, 2015 10:51 AM  

"This whole system has to actually burn before anything meaningful happens."

Yes, but burning it down without having anything to immediately replace it with would not fix the problem. There needs to be a semblance of government and leadership once the fire dies, otherwise it's anarchy.

Think minarchist here.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:53 AM  

"Also, don't think guys that you'll hear any candidate calling for reduced legal immigration. "

then you didn't watch the first debate. Because Jindal and Sortorum called for exactly that.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 10:55 AM  

"Nate He did mention that no one was talking about illegal immigration before he entered the race. "

yes. and that has been conclusively demonstrated to be a lie.

Blogger Karl August 07, 2015 10:56 AM  

and meanwhile on the Democratic side yesterday: Starbucks CEO - I'm not running but America Needs a Servant Leader.

Paging Dalrock to the white courtesy phone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/opinion/america-deserves-a-servant-leader.html?_r=0

(edited down version)

But nothing I’ve read or heard in the past few years has rivaled the power of the image I viewed on my cellphone a few years ago: Pope Francis, shortly after his election, kneeling and washing the feet of a dozen prisoners in Rome, one of them a young Muslim woman, in a pre-Easter ritual.

In recent weeks, I have taken to recalling that humble, inspiring act of servant leadership as I observe the antithesis: a field of presidential aspirants unable to rise above petty politics.

Despite the encouragement of others, I have no intention of entering the presidential fray. I’m not done serving at Starbucks. Although we have built an iconic brand while providing even part-time employees with access to health care, free college education and stock options, there is more we can do as a public company to demonstrate responsible leadership.

The values of servant leadership — putting others first and leading from the heart — need to emerge from every corner of American life, including the business community.

Our country is in desperate need of servant leaders, of men and women willing to kneel and embrace those who are not like them. Everyone seeking the presidency professes great love for our nation. But I ask myself, how can you be a genuine public servant if you belittle your fellow citizens and freeze out people who hold differing views?

The speculation about my candidacy reminds me of a lesson from a great Jewish leader. A decade ago, I visited the Western Wall in Jerusalem with Nosson Tzvi Finkel, a widely respected rabbi in Israel. As we approached one of the holiest sites in Judaism, the rabbi halted about 10 yards away as a crowd of admirers gathered nearby. I beckoned him further.

“I’ve never been closer than this,” the rabbi told me. Astounded, I asked why.

“You go,” he said. “I’m not worthy.”

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 07, 2015 10:58 AM  

We dont have time for distortions, distractions or PC idleness when post americants dont have a future worth living for. over 90 million out of the labor farce is unacceptable.

Today, the unacceptable and unlivable define post america.

Anonymous praetorian August 07, 2015 10:58 AM  

When The Terminator ran for governor of a state he couldn't even pronounce and, bam, he won the election, all the Very Serious People, left and right, clucked about how he wasn't competent or wasn't a true conservative and so on, and the SJWs lost their shit.

Did his election make a difference in CA's direction? Of course not. Nothing would. But it was hilarious and, hey, who knows, it *might* have accelerated the collapse.

Actually, that's brings up one valid fear: Trump may be sufficiently willing to just sit around looking presidential to not really move the ball down the field towards collapse very much. I guess I'll have to hope that Nate and Josh are right and that, once he's in office, he'll start slamming in more Yankee Solutions.

Or not. I don't care.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 10:59 AM  

Paul would have dominated if Trump wasn't there. He has tremendous charisma, he just needs to focus more on immigration. Its the spot people feel he's weak on and he needs to come out hard against it.

Exactly. Not only does Trump draw aggro from z Bush, he's getting a lot of support from people that would probably be supporting Rand.

Anonymous praetorian August 07, 2015 11:00 AM  

Who bitch this is?

Jindaaaaaaaaaaal!

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 11:03 AM  

Trump is the little boy in the crowd who said "the emperor has no clothes".

And everyone is threatened by that.

Was the boy honest? Was the boy right of center? Did the boy used to say the emperor was wearing clothes prior to this day with everyone else? Did the boy once say all swords should be confiscated and only the emperor's guards should have swords?

Should that void the words the boy spoke or make the truth he spoke a lie?

Does that mean we want the boy to be the next emperor?

That is Donald Trump to me.


Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 07, 2015 11:06 AM  

Feminism is such a rank, stenching failure, it makes me sick.

Stupid women pushing dyscivic (VD) absurd dying worldviews on younger generations isn't flying, its failed.

F'ism is a failure.

Why are women even on the panel?

Meggy cannot present news so well. I noted she is a little off maybe 3 or 4 years ago in her timing and speaking - anyone else think so?

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 11:07 AM  

@162 praetorian

Let me fix that for Josh: Jindooooool!

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:08 AM  

"Trump may be sufficiently willing to just sit around looking presidential to not really move the ball down the field towards collapse very much."

Mate if you're looking to accelerate the collapse... Trump ain't your guy. That would be Christie or Bush... or that crazy white commie democrat dude.

Blogger Bateful Higot August 07, 2015 11:08 AM  

@41
Your response would have won, provided it gave all of the elderly GOP voters heart attacks.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:12 AM  

"Jindaaaaaaaaaaal!"

did someone hit the Ilk with a stupid stick?

Blogger Owen August 07, 2015 11:13 AM  

You just contradicted yourself, but oh well who is counting.

I don't think so. Being the media's prop is not the same as being a thought leader (new policies or nuances in discussion) or a national influence (dramatically shown to change people's minds on the issue).

The media has pumped him up because they know they can pull his string and get 15 seconds of TV gold. They do this with politicians and non-politicians all the time.

The media's waiting for his next sound bite so they can get the GOP to either defend a candidate (so the media can play the "GOP are crazies!" stories) or they will distance (so the media can play the "GOP in disarray" stories).

He's given the media attention, not because of his influence, but his ability to serve the media's needs.

Restated: "He got the media to discuss immigration but he is not driving the discussion".

Is that a fair restatement of your position?


He seized the opportunity earlier. However, the GOP was going to discuss the issue in the debates. The GOP candidates were going to out-Rightwing each other in the primary.

They do this every four years, even when Trump isn't running. I don’t want to insult you, but you do acknowledge the GOP candidates all tack to the Right in primaries, don’t you?

The GOP establishment never wanted to have the debate. I believe this, regardless of Trump's actions/words.

More than one candidate was going to raise the illegal immigration issue and catch media attention (see reasons above, serving the media's interest first and foremost), irritating the GOP establishment but exciting the GOP base.

They were going to talk about it last night, even if Trump was still sitting out the election.

I think he’s playing both sides to get the best deal for Trump after 2016.

Blogger Marissa August 07, 2015 11:15 AM  

In Rand Paul's five minutes of spotlight was he able to squeeze in how "white people commit crime too"?

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 11:20 AM  

Owen, if he is a prop you are right.

If he is his own man, you are wrong.

Trump is getting old. He is facing his mortality.

He has children and grandchildren.

Possibly he is really trying to give them a better world... and is going at it in full Trump Beast Mode, which isn't pretty when set next to men who have practiced their answers for years.

He is calling them out. I don't know his motives but he is calling them out and making the powers uncomfortable and throwing a wrench in their well oiled machine.

Time will tell what his real motives are.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 11:20 AM  

In Rand Paul's five minutes of spotlight was he able to squeeze in how "white people commit crime too"?

Your point?

Anonymous Boomer "bafoon"[sic] "validictorian"[sic] August 07, 2015 11:21 AM  

Oddly enough, Nate calling someone else an idiot is the very first entry on Urban Dictionary under "pot calling the kettle black."

Blogger darkdoc August 07, 2015 11:21 AM  

The Establishment's greatest victory is keeping so many people convinced that candidates and voting matter. If voting mattered, they would not allow it. Sometimes, that is exactly what happens.

Most of the posts here show that people have bought the lie.

In spite of the many examples seen around the world recently that it simply does not matter.

If you vote the way they want, it is allowed.

If you manage to vote the opposite of what they want, they ignore or change it, or throw to the courts which are heavily controlled.

So enjoy the circus, but do not expect any of your evaluations, assessments, votes, polls or strategies to matter. You are fooling yourselves.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:21 AM  

just look at the the events of the day... What's happening?

Everyone is talking about Trump...

And Jeb Bush is collecting giant checks.


I know I know... Bush is dead... no way it will happen. Because the guy winning at the time of the first debate always wins right?

Actually... wait...

Has that guy ever won?

Anonymous zen0 August 07, 2015 11:22 AM  

You poor bastards have to do this for another 14 months?

We just started an election here. Longest campaign ever, they say. People are complaining about the length.

Voting day is Oct. 19, 2015

Blogger Elocutioner #0226 August 07, 2015 11:22 AM  

So the choice is between the bought and paid for campaign whores who all knelt and pledged their undying fealty to the party that has been royally screwing us for the last few decades, or the media whore and successful billionaire businessman who is self-financed and jabbing fingers in the eyes of all the cucks and politicos?

Yeah, tough decision.

I KNOW the party hacks (Yeb, Marco, Christie, Kasich, Huckabee, Santorum, Pataki, Perry, Rand, Walker) will betray me as they have the last couple of generations. Rand yaps loudly but he is one of them. Actions, not words. Cruz looks like a sellout as well.

If Yeb or Hillary wins we repeat the whole thing in eight years if we're still having elections.

At worst if Trump ends up being Nero then it's only a matter of shifting the timeline. At best it's a pivot in the culture war.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 11:23 AM  

And Jeb Bush is collecting giant checks.


At this point I think he has more money than the rest of the gop field combined.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 07, 2015 11:23 AM  

The larger lesson is that SJW and Feminism are failed, Trump happened to call that out.

Yes, women, normal women are in fact attracted to doing things behind closed doors with their man, feminists hate that.

I dont care what feminitwits think.

Rosie wants to live with a woman and her kids or their kids, whatever, America wasn't interested in that narrative and she retired into her family or whatever Rosie wants to do.

I dont care.

Why is Meggy at work instead at home with her child?

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:27 AM  

"Oddly enough, Nate calling someone else an idiot is the very first entry on Urban Dictionary under "pot calling the kettle black.""

that's fascinating. Now can you address the points raised or just sit back and snark like a Scalzified little bitch?

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:28 AM  

"At this point I think he has more money than the rest of the gop field combined."

BUT THA TRUMP IS RIIIIIIIICHHH!!!!!!!

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 11:30 AM  

BUT THA TRUMP IS RIIIIIIIICHHH!!!!!!!

Bidness man!

Newt was a dumb person's idea of what a smart person sounds like.

Trump is a poor person's idea of what a rich person looks like.

Blogger Guitar Man August 07, 2015 11:32 AM  

I'd support Rand Paul running as an independent. Trump seemed like a buffoon up there, though I laughed at his trumpisms.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 11:34 AM  

Also...any of y'all notice that trump wants a wall with a big beautiful door?

Blogger Marissa August 07, 2015 11:34 AM  

My point is that I didn't watch the debate and was wondering if Paul kowtowed to the naggers and shitlibs instead of the white people who should be his base but aren't because he sells them out to look good for the media (who will still hate him).

Also...we're not supposed to care about voting...but we are supposed to care about Nate's beep boop bindi or Ron Paul's wayward son. Jabe would be collecting those checks regardless of Trump's existence. The establishment wants him and we're going to get him (or Bill Clinton's wife).

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:34 AM  

"Trump is a poor person's idea of what a rich person looks like."

correct.

When in fact... what old money actually sounds like.. is Jeb Bush.

Anonymous Sam the Man August 07, 2015 11:34 AM  

On the Firearms:

Trump's son is a competitive rifleman, who used to shoot at New Holland Rifle and Pistol association. He used an AR15 (service rifle configuration). Given the boring nature of NRA across the course firing, you don't do that as a fake, you have to be really interested. That son is also a big game hunter.

I doubt Trump is anti-gun any more. He is fairly close to that son. He might well have been back in the early 1990s, but a lot of pro-gun folks now were not all that wild about semi-auto military pattern arms back then.

Recall the NRA icon Charlton Heston was anti-gun in 1968, but became pro gun by 1998.

Trump's appeal is he is being quite honest about how corrupt our politics are. By his comments on the pay to play culture he is pulling the blanket off of the maggot infested body politic. Good show and I hope he continues.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 11:35 AM  

Jeb and Hillary share deep pocket donors. I need not say more.

If Rubio or any of the other establishment whores pull ahead, then they will share deep pocket donors with Hillary.

If Trump is on the Hillary Team, then he sure has done a good job of faking it: "the worst Sec State in the history of the world". Not a ringing endorsement and hard to walk that back later. He has been merciless trashing her every time I hear him.

Jeb is finished, the election is a fraud and we don't actually pick the winner anyway, and Trump cannot save us.

I know that. I also know Trump is not part of the programming written by the NWO. He can't be controlled nor predicted.

He needs to practice for the next debate longer than the drive over to the arena.

Grandkids and children will change any man if he is a man of decency.

And for those who attack Trump's business practices, then you haven't ever done more than open a checking account. Business is tough and only the tough and ruthless survive.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:35 AM  

"Also...we're not supposed to care about voting...but we are supposed to care about Nate's beep boop bindi or Ron Paul's wayward son."

again...

Maybe I need to type slower.

I am not a supporter of Jindal. I would never dream of voting for Jindal. I brought him up to point out that the Trump Immigration narrative is bullshit.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan August 07, 2015 11:37 AM  

@89 Nate

You didn't even watch the debate, I'll bet.

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:37 AM  

"You didn't even watch the debate, I'll bet. "

not only did I watch it... I have it on the DVR as well. What would you like to know nancy?

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 11:38 AM  

And for those who attack Trump's business practices, then you haven't ever done more than open a checking account. Business is tough and only the tough and ruthless survive.

I'm not attacking it, I'm mocking the republican voter fetish for rich people and magic negroes.

Anonymous BGS August 07, 2015 11:38 AM  

Reagan signed the amnesty bill you mongoloid.

And like every republican after him, he said building a fence was part of that amnesty.

He's a businessman who wanted some political help. Virtuous? No

What I heard him say on the matter it that it was simply pay to play, if you don't pay politicians they will get in your way. He has said it is a problem that you have to pay both sides bribes.

Josh What positions? Can you name any? Bitch slapping every liberal he encounters, if you want to find out who is right for America find out who secular jewish lesbians hate the most. Most faggots hate Trump also.

He signed amnesty into law. Like Dear Leader, he has to own it.

Judges and parlor tricks kept the wall from being built, Hungary is one of the poorest nations in Europe but they built a wall quickly to deal with 3rd world crimimigrants .https://news.vice.com/article/hungary-is-building-a-wall-along-the-serbian-border-to-keep-migrants-out

If Trump is so brave... and so thoroughly un PC... Why exactly did he run like a scared bitch to disassociate himself from Borders?

Borders was not worth the fight to keep him, the lame stream media would have talked about the guys old facebook posts more than they would Trump. It would be like covering Cecil the lion but not the 8yo white girl raped to death by a Mexican who was caught on video tossing her body in a dumpster during the coverage.

Rand Paul's five minutes of spotlight was he able to squeeze in how "white people commit crime too"? Hispanics count as white to the FBI & many states when they commit crimes

Recall the NRA icon Charlton Heston was anti-gun in 1968, but became pro gun by 1998.
Most of the anti gunners just don't want violent blacks to have guns but can't say it.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 07, 2015 11:40 AM  

Who else on the stage, other than Trump stated the obvious:

'everyone on this stage with very few exceptions are beholden to their donors and special interests, they are all owned lock, stock and barrel and answer to the powered interests and really don't serve the people".

Did Rubio or anyone else say these things?

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:41 AM  

" Bitch slapping every liberal he encounters, if you want to find out who is right for America find out who secular jewish lesbians hate the most. Most faggots hate Trump also."

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/07/25/3684164/case-for-donald-trump/

Tell me again how much the liberals hate him.

Blogger Josh August 07, 2015 11:41 AM  

Bitch slapping every liberal he encounters, if you want to find out who is right for America find out who secular jewish lesbians hate the most. Most faggots hate Trump also.

That's not a political position.

Also, check out how much the feminists hate Rand.

Blogger JACIII August 07, 2015 11:42 AM  

Trump is a Trojan Horse sent by the crafty Clinton machine. He has a bellyful of swords aimed at GOP hearts.

-Camille Paglia

Blogger Nate August 07, 2015 11:43 AM  

"Did Rubio or anyone else say these things?"

Huckabee said almost the exact same thing he just articulated it better and aimed it squarely at Washington. Then pivoted on it to explain why the Department of Education should not exist.

Which... was actually kind of awesome.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 07, 2015 11:43 AM  

yes. and that has been conclusively demonstrated to be a lie.

Not really. It doesn't matter if Jindal or Santorum or anyone else said it if nobody was paying any attention to them. Trump's the first one who said it who also managed to get the establishment, the media, and even our political enemies to acknowledge that it's out there.

Blogger Tommy Hass August 07, 2015 11:43 AM  

@Nate "Who bitch this is?"

LOL.

Btw, I was suprised by how deep Jeb's voice was. I expected him to sound much more like a mushy manlet.

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