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Saturday, September 05, 2015

Eminently predictable

From a comment on a fake review:

SJW: "STOP, I will light my house on fire if you keep trying to take my award!"
VOX: "I don't want your award. I don't care"
SJW: "You are a terrible person and I will make sure you never work in this field and can never take my award."
VOX: "Meh, I don't want your award".
SJW: "Hah, see we have kicked you out of our special club. You will never work in this town again. Try telling your kids you not a bad person when you cannot feed them."
VOX: "Let me get this right, you insult me when I don't want your award, you kick me out of a supposedly enlightened group because I don't want your award, and if I do actually try to take the award you will burn your house down?"
SJW: "Yes that's right and you'll feel bad."
VOX: Here's a road flare, just have to break that top off there and it will light.
SJW: This one right here?
VOX: Yes, that one and it will light.
* SJW starts road flare, house burns *
SJW: See I told you this would happen.
VOX: Yeah, you told me. I still don't care, but this bonfire is fun and my friends have some more gasoline.
* VOX points to the Vile Faceless ones, the Dread Ilk and the GG's are rolling up to the site.*


Meanwhile, even the Rev. 3.0 is amazed by how one can tell the SJWs what they ought to do to avoid digging themselves in deeper, then watch them promptly proceed to do it.
"What I find really funny is that Vox said exactly the same things your saying now, last spring, at File770."

Ha. I didn't know that, but it's pretty hilarious. He really does tell people the honest truth and then sit back and laugh while they punch themselves. 
Usually I'm not laughing. I'm mostly just shaking my head in disbelief. It doesn't matter how many times you see it over and over and over again, it's still hard to believe people can be that predictably stupid. Look at the SJW reaction to Sad Puppies 4. After months of complaining about how Sad Puppies was a slate because it had precisely five entries per category, (which wasn't even true), Kate the Impaler comes out and announces that SP4 will have 10 recommendations per category, just as the SJWs were demanding.

Their reaction? "It's still a slate!" The lesson is: there is never any pleasing SJWs, so don't even bother listening to them. Just crush them into dust.

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73 Comments:

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 05, 2015 7:32 AM  

There never was much there with the SJW, perhaps a few high IQ script writers that cranked out some very effective rhetoric, but beyond that zilch.

I'm finally glad some people are figuring that out instead of the usual conservative gimmick of tailgating the left and trying to impress fellow conservatives with the usual conservative crab bucket intellectualism.

Who are the thought leaders in the SJW scifi cult?

Blogger Steveo #238 September 05, 2015 8:07 AM  

Leonid?

Blogger James Dixon September 05, 2015 8:17 AM  

> Their reaction? "It's still a slate!

Everything is political to them, and everything is judged on that basis. If your politics are what they want then you can do no wrong. If they're not, you can do no right. The only reason to even attempt ot meet their stated requirements is to demonstrate this to neutral outsiders.

Anonymous Godfrey September 05, 2015 8:24 AM  

SJWs are people desperately seeking ways to be angry, outraged and offended.

You can never please a person whose purpose in life is being displeased.

Blogger Steveo #238 September 05, 2015 8:26 AM  

I am looking forward to the nomination process... imagine this concept, if you will, supporting stuff I like! Wow, just wow. I feel embiggened already.

Incidentally, if I can find a 2015 dictionary with ze, xe and xir - or whatever published in it, I'm nominating it as fantasy, although it is fiction, there is no science anywhere near it.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 September 05, 2015 8:28 AM  

Hell, rape rape Martin has even started his own awards, because... winning?

Anonymous Ain September 05, 2015 8:31 AM  

The Golden Rapes?

Anonymous NorthernHamlet September 05, 2015 8:44 AM  

VD,

Remind me, had you considered writing a book on dialectic instruction?

Can you recommend some?

Blogger Thucydides September 05, 2015 9:00 AM  

Nominating 10 per category to meet their definition of a "slate" is no fun. Go for random numbers, or prime numbers or roll a dice to decide how many nomination there are going to be per category, and watch their heads explode because it don't meet their definition.

Oh, and start writing as well, so there will actually be enough quality material to nominate.

Blogger VFM #0202 September 05, 2015 9:11 AM  

@8 The rival embassies addressing the Athenian Senate. Moving rhetoric, incommensurable "conclusions"! Thucydides' deadpan reportage may be the greatest shiv work of all time.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2015 9:24 AM  

Their reaction? "It's still a slate!"

Well.....yeah. If anyone thinks a day will come when the SJWs say, "Hey, you know, the Sad Puppies' new plan makes sense and is fair to everyone. We're gonna throw in with them," then he really doesn't understand SJWs yet. Phil "Guess How Many Children Can Hide In My Beard" Sandifer spelled it out on Twitter, for cripes sake: they want to destroy everything and rebuild it in their own broken* image. You can't do that if you stop and compromise before everything is destroyed.

In short, SJWs want to be Creators, not remodelers.

That's not a swipe at SP. They're doing a good and necessary thing.

[* For the record, we're all broken. But the rational person responds to that recognition by trying to fix himself. The irrational person (including the SJW) responds by trying to fix the universe.]

Anonymous Homesteader September 05, 2015 9:35 AM  

Somebody approach this from an evo-psych standpoint.

Posited-
SJWs have always existed. The Bible mentions them.(Rabbi B's clever Sanhedrin expose comes to mind.)

Thus, their behaviors go back to our beginnings, and are presumably genetic in nature. Thus, we should find them worldwide. (We do.)

Why?

Short term, their shitty behaviors might work, but long term???

What possible long-term advantage could their stated behaviors confer, since they seem custom made for the destruction of their host society, and thus themselves? (And awfully DUMB, once you understand them.)

-Or, it's not genetic at all, they're just witting or unwitting followers of the Evil One, a thesis which seems correct.

Blogger James Dixon September 05, 2015 9:41 AM  

> The Golden Rapes?

The Rapes of Wrath, obviously.

Anonymous Kreator September 05, 2015 9:43 AM  

A disgusting interview from EA's Peter Moore basically showcasing us that EA and it's subsequent companies (BioWare et al) are the enemy here: http://fortune.com/2015/09/04/ea-peter-moore-on-women-in-gaming/ I encourage everyone to start boycotting their products, I know I did 20 years ago.

Anonymous Gapeseed September 05, 2015 9:45 AM  

Posited-
SJWs have always existed. The Bible mentions them.(Rabbi B's clever Sanhedrin expose comes to mind.)


I've been wondering about that since reading SJWs Always Lie. Are SJWs the scoffers the Bible warns about at various intervals, or simply people of very bad faith?

Blogger Salt September 05, 2015 9:45 AM  

Their reaction? "It's still a slate!", "when you do it"

Half was missing.



Anonymous Homesteader September 05, 2015 9:55 AM  

Perhaps it's due to the fact that compulsive behaviors, are, by definition, irrational.

And SJWs are nothing if not compulsive.

It's not their fault-they can't help themselves, poor things...

(Anonymous Conservative's r/K theory just came to mind.

It IS evolutionary...)

We need another K favoring selection event, and soon..

Anonymous Homesteader September 05, 2015 9:58 AM  

They really ARE rabbits.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 05, 2015 10:09 AM  

The website for next year's convention, MidAmericCon, already has a "Code of Conduct" up. It states at the beginning that "MidAmeriCon II values free expression of opinions and open discourse; this policy is not established to limit those."

Precisely three lines later is the following: "All MidAmeriCon II events should be an experience where everyone feels welcomed and comfortable. Discrimination (based on, but not limited to, gender, race, ethnicity, religion, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical/mental disability) is not tolerated."

It's right out of Chapter 6 of SJWs Always Lie: An SJW code of conduct is "a weapon intended to root out and destroy those the SJWs deem haters, as well as badthinkers, crimethinkers, and potential threats to the Narrative."

So, how will attendees engage in "free expression of opinions and open discourse" when certain opinions and discourse will "not be tolerated" by the SJW overseers?

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 September 05, 2015 10:23 AM  

RE: the rabbit plague. somewhere in the world a headline will be written that Vladimir Putin is acting aggressively in Syria and destabilizing the region.

unlike Saddam though he does possess weapons of mass destruction - although in really big bombs still only a tiny amount of matter is actually destroyed/ or converted to energy. Mostly what you see is mass re-arrangement. But
"weapons of mass rearrangement" doesn't sell papers even though the physics is correct. In any case Vlad can cure SJW's in much the same sense as make them an offer they can neither accept nor refuse. Dialectic has about the same chance of succeeding as an autopsy, It informs the living.
Watched Hansel and Gretel tonight: sorry to inform you it won't be an open casket.\
SJW will fall like a stone and as chaff to the hurricane pass away.

Anonymous Viidad September 05, 2015 10:35 AM  

I gotta say it: I giggled like a little girl reading George R. R. Moretons bit in "SJWs Never Lie." Woke my wife up with my laughing - I couldn't stop.

Also got "If You Were an SJW, My Love" last night. Hehheh.

"John Scalzi is a Rapist/John Scalzi Banned This Book"? Also hilarious and wonderfully rapey in a sweet way.

We. Need. More.

Anonymous Steve, The Dark Ninja of Mockery September 05, 2015 10:36 AM  

Phil "Guess How Many Children Can Hide In My Beard" Sandifer

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2015 10:39 AM  

"All MidAmeriCon II events should be an experience where everyone feels welcomed and comfortable."

Rational people who don't know any better read Codes like that and think they seem fair: no one should be discriminated against. Who could mind that? But the line above is the key, because if someone doesn't feel "welcomed and comfortable," then who's responsible for that? A rational person would say, "Well, maybe that person is mistaken or acting out his own issues." But to SJWs, that one of them feels unwelcome is prima facie evidence that Discrimination has happened, therefore there is a Discriminator who must be sanctioned. So as soon as your organization is being run by SJWs or by people susceptible to them, you'll be hanged with your own Code.

It's like the "general welfare" clause in the Preamble to the Constitution. Ostensibly there only to provide context for the rules that follow, it becomes a rule unto itself that trumps all those actual rules.

OpenID basementhomebrewer September 05, 2015 10:45 AM  

These people are hilariously self destructive. Kate puts up the announcement adopting one of the changes the SJWs suggested and within minutes they arrive on her site to complain about it and claim they never supported the idea of more recommendations on the list. More and more people who were on the fence and watching are going to start coming off the fence. The SJWs are exposing their selves in a very public way and they don't even realize it.

Anonymous The other robot September 05, 2015 10:45 AM  

OT: A cuckservative worries that Hungary's response to the immigration crisis will encourage the crazies, like Trump.

Blogger Nate September 05, 2015 10:46 AM  

also... guys... obviously The ATF Show needs to be nominated for a Hugo Award. I mean... last nights episode was named "John Scalzi is a Rapist"

Anonymous The other robot September 05, 2015 10:51 AM  

Re:EA's Peter Moore sees explosion of women in game development

Women are less demanding in gaming and thus easier to write games for. Think Farmville etc.

Women are generally cheaper to employ, but also, generally less productive than the most productive men.

(Note, I am not talking about averages here. I doubt that any game company employs lots of average people.)

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 05, 2015 11:05 AM  

@23. Cail Corishev

"All MidAmeriCon II events should be an experience where everyone feels welcomed and comfortable."

the line above is the key, because if someone doesn't feel "welcomed and comfortable," then who's responsible for that?

Right. Another wide open hole is in " Discrimination (based on, but not limited to, gender, race, ...) is not tolerated."

1) In order to assert that discrimination has occurred, one has to acknowledge the existence of definable categories of sex ('gender'), race, and the rest. But that's discriminating. So the Discriminator is self-hoisting. This of course is a logical argument, so SJWs don't have any use for it. It's structurally similar to their "Not toleration of intolerance" tautology.

2) "...based on, but not limited to..." leaves the door wide open for things like Unacceptable Depictions of Women on Shirt, Joke About Women in Lab, Unacceptable Flyer at Free Table, etc.


It's like the "general welfare" clause in the Preamble to the Constitution. Ostensibly there only to provide context for the rules that follow, it becomes a rule unto itself that trumps all those actual rules.

Um hmm. That's why you will not find the Preamble to the Articles of Amendment to the Constitution in any law dictionary or government publication. Anybody ever heard of it? No fair looking it up.

Blogger Markku September 05, 2015 11:08 AM  

Go to MidAmeriCon, secretly record all the time (I recommend a high quality, dedicated recorder instead of mobile phone), try to get the entire thing on record. From the actual nature of the faux offense, to you getting kicked out.

We'll exploit the absolute shit of that recording if you can get it. Free books on me.

Blogger bornagainpenguin September 05, 2015 11:08 AM  

VOX: Yeah, you told me. I still don't care, but this bonfire is fun and my friends have some more gasoline.

* VOX points to the Vile Faceless ones, the Dread Ilk and the GG's are rolling up to the site.*



/me holds up stick with marshmallows

Hey, do you think we could wait a bit on the gasoline? I'd like to finish enjoying my snack first....

Anonymous Spirit of 76 September 05, 2015 11:21 AM  

Where is MAC being held?

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 05, 2015 11:27 AM  

@29. Markku

Go to MidAmeriCon, secretly record all the time (I recommend a high quality, dedicated recorder instead of mobile phone), try to get the entire thing on record. From the actual nature of the faux offense, to you getting kicked out.

We'll exploit the absolute shit of that recording if you can get it. Free books on me.


A contest! I love contests! I'll chip in a free Set of Bishop Cubes, Collector’s Edition to the Prize pot.
I might include more goodies for bonus Point & Shrieks, Concern Meetings in the principle's office, etc.

Blogger maniacprovost September 05, 2015 11:37 AM  

Maybe they figured out that, given a large Puppy numerical advantage in the nomination process, 10 recommendations would prevent any shenanigannery with disqualifications being effective.

8 nominees per category might be better.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 05, 2015 11:39 AM  

Personally, I'd like to get Matt Taylor's shirt and wear it at the con. See if the SJW's bite...

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2015 11:44 AM  

Go to MidAmeriCon

Go to it? I figured we were all gonna meet in KC and celebrate the results together in person while it was going on. Do we have to go mingle with the freaks?

On a related topic, is anyone paying attention to the Retro-Hugos? I just read that they're going to do Retro-Hugos for 1941 next year. I assume that means the SJWs will be scouring the back shelves for works written by women and non-whites, containing trans/furry characters, not published in English, etc., and trying to get those nominated and awarded ahead of any actual classics. Do we care?

Blogger Werekoala1066 September 05, 2015 11:50 AM  

If these people knew about Braer' Rabbit (i.e. if they hadn't self-righteously deleted Uncle Remus from history), they might recognize what they're doing, and what they're up against. But hey, who said Memory Holes are a bad thing?

Blogger LP999/S.I.G. Burn'in Up! September 05, 2015 11:55 AM  

Bitterness for the maladjusted is when a goof swallows the poison and blames another person, MPAI.

Sadly, the goofs dont turn better.

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 05, 2015 12:01 PM  

>>The Golden Rapes

>The Rapes of Wrath

The Grrm Raper?

Blogger Danby September 05, 2015 12:01 PM  

"MidAmeriCon II values free expression of opinions and open discourse; this policy is not established to limit those."
If they were honest, I could drive a train throught that hole. An ocean liner, probably. But they're not, so this is just words.

"All MidAmeriCon II events should be an experience where everyone feels welcomed and comfortable."
What about the Faceless Ones. Are they welcomed and comfortable? What about Puppykin?

Discrimination (based on, but not limited to, gender, race, ethnicity, religion, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical/mental disability) is not tolerated."
Does "but not limited to" stretch far enough for the Vile, the Sad, the Rabid? This is an honest question. If I go will I be mocked, harassed, discriminated against?

Blogger Rico Suave September 05, 2015 12:10 PM  

Personally I am planning to go to the con with an empty gas can. Should freak out the right people. Kansas City is my damn city and I'm very much looking forward to making the SJWs feel right at home.

Btw, I know a great all you can eat Mongolian BBQ just a short travel from the con.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 05, 2015 12:16 PM  

@39. Danby

"All MidAmeriCon II events should be an experience where everyone feels welcomed and comfortable."
What about the Faceless Ones. Are they welcomed and comfortable? What about Puppykin?

To be fair, it says "should be", not "shall be".

Anonymous Tim the Enchanter September 05, 2015 12:43 PM  

@29 Marku, FYI, I think it's legally permitted in Kansas City (both on the Missouri and on the Kansas side) to record conversations with only one party's permission, but if you're serious about using the recordings, I'd check the actual law. Otherwise, I look forward to your exploitation. Yum.

Anonymous Wyrd September 05, 2015 12:50 PM  

The Rapes of Wrath, obviously

lulz

Anonymous BunE22 September 05, 2015 12:58 PM  

Wtf. From that Peter Moore article:

"If there’s been any benefit to Gamergate, whatever Gamergate is, I think it just makes us think twice at times.”

How about thinking once first? How do you talk about GG having an influence on your business model when you don't even know what GG is about?

Blogger Sir Wilshire (#320) September 05, 2015 12:59 PM  

Looks like the University of Tennessee will force the diversity and inclusion office to remove the pronouns "suggestion" from their website. Of course they should go the whole way and close the office down.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local-news/ut-backs-away-from-genderneutral-pronouns_88079221

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2015 1:07 PM  

What about the Faceless Ones. Are they welcomed and comfortable? What about Puppykin?

Some Code of Conduct pushers are trying to add exceptions for reverse discrimination, saying that if you're "privileged," you can't be discriminated against. In fact, claims of discrimination by a privileged person may be considered harassment in and of themselves.

Of course, Codes already worked that way (see: #OSCON 2015), so they're just making explicit what was tacit. Stupid of them, really, but it goes back to their arrogance in thinking they've already won the war. It changes nothing as a practical matter, but it does make it easier for moderate types to see what's really going on. It's pretty hard for anyone sane to believe that adding "except for straight white guys" could make something less discriminatory.

Blogger GK Chesterton September 05, 2015 1:11 PM  

I appreciate SP IV trying but I know longer want to try reconciliation, which is what SP's really is.

Blogger GK Chesterton September 05, 2015 1:13 PM  

@46 Cail,

I'm effectively a leftist on this issue here but it is amazing that they don't consider what a one way policy like this does. It doesn't calm things down.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 05, 2015 1:14 PM  

@14 Kreator


Isn't that the same Peter Moore from the days of Dreamcast?

Blogger Jack Aubrey September 05, 2015 1:29 PM  

It would be interesting to have a RP slate for the retro Hugos and watch the SJWs no award works like Gray Lensman, The Roads Must Roll, Robbie, Synthetic Men of Mars, etc.

Blogger maniacprovost September 05, 2015 1:36 PM  

Here is my suggestion for Rabid Puppies 2: Kiss my Asterisk logo.
It's only background and midground. Needs some original art of Ray, Isaac and Frank in the foreground, plus circles and whatnot.

http://imgur.com/XyJhlUr

I have .xcf files, but the whole thing may need to be redone in a different style / edited more. Just a concept really.

Anonymous Rolf September 05, 2015 1:42 PM  

So... somebody WILL be printing up these shirts at Café Press (and donating profits to the humane society, in order to make for fewer sad puppies, of course) and make them available sometime soon, right? And Rabid Puppies II as well, I'd hope.

Anonymous Rolf September 05, 2015 1:43 PM  

@52 - pretty good, but it should be a three-headed dog :-)

Blogger frigger611 September 05, 2015 1:51 PM  

Love that poster! It's perfectly cromulent.

Blogger RobertT September 05, 2015 1:54 PM  

From one of the links.
"Most of them could teach lawyers a thing or two about libel."

If you know more than the lawyers, which is not unlikely, you've painted yourself into a corner. You're in a courtroom with people arguing over things they don't understand, which are intimately important to you, and none of them is afraid of a fight.

Blogger RobertT September 05, 2015 1:54 PM  

From one of the links.
"Most of them could teach lawyers a thing or two about libel."

If you know more than the lawyers, which is not unlikely, you've painted yourself into a corner. You're in a courtroom with people arguing over things they don't understand, which are intimately important to you, and none of them is afraid of a fight.

Blogger Salt September 05, 2015 2:29 PM  

Go to MidAmeriCon, secretly record all the time

I'm seriously thinking of going. I use a Roland R-26 field recorder.

OpenID simplytimothy September 05, 2015 2:57 PM  

OT: via Sipsey Street: Chinese video game: attack on American base on Okinawa. https://youtu.be/ULtzgE9mJD8

There will be war.

Blogger chris September 05, 2015 3:29 PM  

Does "but not limited to" stretch far enough for the Vile, the Sad, the Rabid? This is an honest question. If I go will I be mocked, harassed, discriminated against?
Yes, but only by wimps. Record it, get kicked out,... meh.
Because you will add the video to ta large archive. Not even Josh Whedon being butthurt can stop the signal.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 05, 2015 3:35 PM  

MidAmeriCon is the next Worldcon. It's not until August, 2016. Why wait for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_conventions
Åcon Mariehamn, Åland Finland SF/Fantasy literature 2016-05-05
OryCon Portland, Oregon USA General 2015-11-20 (I've been a Pro Guest at this. Hmm.)
ConClave Dearborn, Michigan USA SF/F 2015-10-09
Dragoncon Atlanta, Georgia USA General 2015-09-04 (started yesterday)

etc.

Blogger dlw September 05, 2015 3:54 PM  

> Grrm Raper

Okay, ENOUGH! I just had to order one of those keyboard protectors from Amazon. I'm not revisiting this thread until it arrives.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) September 05, 2015 3:55 PM  

As pleasant as the fire was, later finding out there were pedophiles hiding in the attic makes it all the better.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 05, 2015 5:13 PM  

Go to MidAmeriCon, secretly record all the time

I'm seriously thinking of going.


I'm thinking of going too. It can be fun to mix with the freaks, seek to surreptitiously trigger them. Someone here lives in or near Kansas City, said he has a far or acreage where we could camp out and mingle. Helloooo? Is that an option? Would that be the first gathering of Rabid Puppies?

Blogger Were-Puppy September 05, 2015 5:19 PM  

I've got a what if?

Say you get a room in the hotel holding the convention.

You also pay to be part of the convention.

If you get kicked out of the convention, that wouldn't necessarily mean you were kicked out of the hotel?

Would this not depend on if you violated some hotel rules, not the dumb CoC of the convention?

If this is so, then they would probably prevent you from entering certain convention areas, but couldn't keep you from prowling the premises, room parties, and that kind of thing.

Blogger epobirs September 05, 2015 5:42 PM  

They're really going to have to dig deep to find ten items to nominate in some of those categories. But I supposed it couldn't be any worse than having the winner of Best New Writer being someone who was already nominated the previous year.

Blogger Robert What? September 05, 2015 5:57 PM  

One of the things we hate most about SJWs is that they force us sometimes to act like them. But if you are in a war with someone who is using machine guns while you use only swords. Well you can say "I'm sticking to my prinicals to use only swords". But you will be annihilated.

Anonymous Rolf September 05, 2015 6:38 PM  

I still say the mascot / spokesman for the next campaign should be Wendell's younger brother, Hough. (or perhaps "Hew," for his cutting remarks).

I mean, what's not to like about a flaming spaceship / dirigible / manatee crashing (perhaps the manatee colliding with the rocket/dirigible), with a bystander sobbing "Oh, the Hough Manatee!"

(yes, I've used the joke before, but I still like it. I'm easily amused.)

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 05, 2015 6:45 PM  

MidAmeriCon is the next Worldcon. It's not until August, 2016. Why wait for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_conventions
OryCon Portland, Oregon USA General 2015-11-20 (I've been a Pro Guest at this. Hmm.)
Dragoncon Atlanta, Georgia USA General 2015-09-04 (started yesterday)

It's too late to get a ticket to Dragoncon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Con
"In 2000, Ed Kramer ceased to have an active role in managing the convention; but he still owned 34% of the company, and in 2011 leveled charges that he is not getting his fair share of the profits it generates.[12] Kramer's relationship with the convention was ended in July 2013 in a cash-out merger.[13]"

Hmm, no mention on that page of what else Ed Kramer might be up to. Let's see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_E._Kramer "Kramer was arrested on August 25, 2000 following an anonymous tip, and charged with molesting three teenage boys. The ensuing investigation revealed that Kramer had previously been accused of molestation in 1997 before the alleged victim recanted.[11]"

That might explain why "In 2000, Ed Kramer ceased to have an active role in managing the convention..."

"Kramer's first attempt to serve his pre-trial detention in house arrest lasted only a week due to a reported visit by a teenage boy. ...In September 2011, Kramer was arrested after Connecticut police found him in a motel room, unsupervised, with a 14-year-old boy despite being banned from contacting anyone under 18. In September 2012, it was reported that Kramer was being held at the MacDougall-Walker Correctional Institution, a maximum security facility..."
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Blogger Anthony Gillis September 05, 2015 6:47 PM  

@21

Heh! Pamphleteering like that is one of the many ways we can fight back. Cut one head of the hydra, and others will rise. It is simultaneously an old-school political tradition, and yet 4th gen.

I bought "If You Were an SJW, My Love" earlier today. Haven't read it yet.
Alexa Eren is vastly funnier than the real-life skittles boy she's based on, the one behind the tedious "Theo Pratt" snorefest.
"SJWs Never Lie" is mine. There's more on the way.

Blogger SciVo September 05, 2015 6:49 PM  

@ maniacprovost: "8 nominees per category might be better."

I would decrease it every time someone objected to it being too small. It would quickly go back to five.

Blogger Anthony Gillis September 05, 2015 6:56 PM  

@66

I don't hate the SJWs for making us act like them. I laugh at them because they were dumb enough to strip away all the rules of civility that protected basically weak, cowardly people like themselves. They've thrived in large organizations that covered for their own incompetence. They sheltered under gentle rules they've systematic undermined, or turned into weapons. But those rules only work when their victims are willing to abide by them.

Little rabbits, however aggressive, they've torn down the fences that kept the wolves out.

Whoops.

Anonymous Jim Milo September 06, 2015 2:39 AM  

@46

The answer I always give is that who determines privilege? I am a disabled person but my handicap is not apparent to everyone. Calling complaints of reverse-discrimination from a disabled person 'harassment' is abelist and in itself harassment.

I learned the above from someone who is active in Canada's socialist party. Many have learned to black-knight out of necessity tio get any work done. Even they hate tumblrinas. The privcheckers eventually storm off in a huff when you can smell the Shanghi market in the rabbit hole.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 06, 2015 4:14 AM  

Hilarious that the first comment on the SP4 article is a yellow cur putting his pissed soaked tail between his legs and retreating, yapping from the fray for all to see for; "reasons". No doubt these "reasons" includes even the idea of any potential conflict.

Drive the doomsaying moderates from the camp! They will give succor to the enemy and open your gates to them in the name of their false god "COMPROMISE"!

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