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Wednesday, September 09, 2015

How's that diversity thing working out?

Apparently diversity isn't turning out to be as quite as "good for the Jews" as it's been advertised. But there is no pressing cause for concern, I'm sure that the third worlders invading America will be much better behaved than the third worlders invading Europe. And speaking as a son of the Mexican Revolution, I can assure you that La Raza Cósmica is every bit as susceptible to appeals to the Holocaust as the Chinese and other immigrant populations are.
Married Holocaust survivors brutally beaten in savage Amsterdam robbery as attackers shouted 'dirty Jews' and left them blinded and confined to wheelchairs. Men forced their way into home of Shmuel Blog, 87 and his wife Diana, 86. They beat and kicked the pair and demanded they hand over valuables. Called Mr and Mrs Blog 'dirty Jews', tore off their rings and tied them up. Mr Blog was left blinded with a broken thigh and wheelchair-bound for life. Mrs Blog is also confined to a wheelchair suffering from 'extreme pains'
It seems to me that the Learned Elders of Wye would be well advised to reconsider their previous position on homogenous white Christian populations rather than assume that they can simply relocate to Israel and China after America follows the current European example.

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116 Comments:

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 09, 2015 12:25 PM  

You can't ignore the power of hatred.  If it's worse for the goyim they may still count it a win.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 09, 2015 12:28 PM  

Occasionally I wonder if the Learned Elders of Wye consider a steady stream of Jewish victims a necessity. A carcass ripped up by a weasel now and then helps sell the oppression story to the other warrens.

Anonymous Axe Head September 09, 2015 12:35 PM  

A few old Jews here and there are a small price to pay for the glories of genociding European Christendom.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 09, 2015 12:36 PM  

I read the article, did I miss where they described the perp's ethnicity?

Though it is unlikely that the assailants were ethnic Dutch, the robbery sounds a bit sophisticated for your average Moslem hobos.

Blogger Robert What? September 09, 2015 12:46 PM  

Don't worry. They'll rationalize it as being caused as a response to those "right wing nationalists"

Anonymous cent September 09, 2015 12:46 PM  

History of Pogroms are interesting. Has been going on for long time, and there has to be a reason beyond simple racial discrimination. I would argue that It shows consistent repeated pattern of behavior that is disagreeable to natives to cause such events.

Anonymous Porky September 09, 2015 12:49 PM  

This story sounds like BS.

And there's no Shmuel Blog in the holocaust survivors database.

Blogger Tommy Hass September 09, 2015 12:51 PM  

The post before was about a SJW cleansed James Bond. The cleanser, as it were, was a Jooooooo.

May Zionists not regret it.

Btw, Vox, do you believe that Israel stands a chance of being overwhelmed, because your last sentence seems to imply it.

Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 12:54 PM  

ZhukovG @4: "I read the article, did I miss where they described the perp's ethnicity?"

Not in that particular article, but in other ones:

"Two men in their 40s or 50s, who the couple said had a Middle Eastern appearance but spoke fluent Dutch...".

Blogger VD September 09, 2015 12:56 PM  

Btw, Vox, do you believe that Israel stands a chance of being overwhelmed, because your last sentence seems to imply it.

I think it is considerably more likely that Israel will refuse to grant free entry to all of America's Jews. But in military matters, nothing is certain. The Arabs can't beat Israel, but there are other powers who can easily do so.

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Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 12:57 PM  

Another article refers to the attackers as men "who looked to be of Moroccan descent".

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 09, 2015 12:59 PM  

Survivors: Both Shmuel and Diana Blog are Holocaust survivors, with Mrs Blog still carrying the scars she got being attacked by guard dogs as a young woman at Auschwitz concentration camp (pictured)

Given that European non-Jews are so hateful to the Jews, and they used to be even worse, and must always be under suspicion of becoming that bad again, would it not have been wiser for the Blogs to have made aliyah many years before?

Blogger Rabbi B September 09, 2015 1:06 PM  

" . . . would it not have been wiser for the Blogs to have made aliyah many years before?"

Yes, obviously.

Blogger Rabbi B September 09, 2015 1:07 PM  

Time to git while the gittin' is good. Israel is imploring Jews to make aliyah.

Blogger Daniel September 09, 2015 1:08 PM  

@6 Shmuel, Shlimazel, Hassenpfeffer Incorporated. We're gonna do it!

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 09, 2015 1:13 PM  

“I don’t feel like eating anymore,” Diana Blog told NIW, saying she could still taste the barbiturate the robbers made her drink at gunpoint. “I am broken from the inside.”

Inhuman.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 09, 2015 1:15 PM  

14. Rabbi B: "Time to git while the gittin' is good. Israel is imploring Jews to make aliyah."

I wish them great success in urging their co-ethnics to get out before the fire rises higher.

Anonymous Tom September 09, 2015 1:21 PM  

@3

How can we call the Moslem influx into Europe the cause of the European genocide? The Europeans weren't even reproducing at replacement level. They have been genociding themselves for awhile now.

Anonymous Sam the Man September 09, 2015 1:24 PM  

A lot of Jews have been assimilated into the USA, they are not going anywhere. A percentage of US Jews are not dyed in the wool leftists, nor do they identify with that eastern European communist world view.

I think in the 1928 Election about 25 percent voted for Hoover.

In the last election something like 22 percent voted for Romney.

Oddly enough I would bet a lot of the non leftist ones are considering going to Israel, if personal acquaintances are any indication of the larger population.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami September 09, 2015 1:28 PM  

@6 "there's no Shmuel Blog in the holocaust survivors database."


He was undercover: Blog. Schmuel Blog. I'll have a Manischevitz. Shaken, not stirred.

Anonymous 10900209 September 09, 2015 1:34 PM  

Going to have to reserve my sympathy until it's proven that these two weren't among the Jews that Barbara Lerner-Specter gleefully declared to be at the center of Europe's transition to a multicultural society.


Anonymous Porky September 09, 2015 1:40 PM  

There is no Shmuel Blog, Samuel Blog, or Diana Blog in the holocaust survivor database. And Diana is not just any holocaust survivor - she's an Auschwitz survivor which would make her almost a celebrity among survivors.

In fact there are only 9 people named Diana listed as Auschwitz survivors. None of them were born in 1931.

Note that the Jewish times does not include a photo of Shmuel or Diana's severe injuries, but a stock photo of an unknown tattooed arm.

There is a single photograph in the article of an elderly couple eating a nice lunch. Neither looks particularly beaten within an inch of their lives. Mrs. blog says she doesn't want to eat anymore. Yet there she is gnawing away at a nice spread.

Their son Emmanuel has put out a reward of 12,000 Euros and circulated photos of their beaten bodies. However, no article points to these supposed photos, or uses these photos, or points to a website where readers might contribute to the reward fund? A search for Emmanuel Blog comes up nil.

And petty criminals feeding an octogenarian barbiturates?? Like they were so impatient that they wanted to cut her fingers off but were entirely willing to wait 20 minutes for the effects of the drugs to kick in so they could steal her jooo gold?

This is complete BS.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 09, 2015 1:40 PM  

19. Sam the Man: "A lot of Jews have been assimilated into the USA, they are not going anywhere."

All the more reason for the Learned Elders of Wye to reconsider their position.

Right?

Blogger ajw308 (#98) September 09, 2015 1:40 PM  

A percentage of US Jews are not dyed in the wool leftists, nor do they identify with that eastern European communist world view.
Last time I dropped off something to a Jew I know, the most convenient place was when they were at Temple. I think I was the only car in the parking lot without an Obama sticker on it. The percentage you speak of is 0%.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 09, 2015 1:40 PM  

Has anyone got the link to the original story of the meeting at Wye where they discussed the China option?

It is as if it has been scrubbed from the internet.

Blogger Durandel Almiras September 09, 2015 1:43 PM  

I'm saddened by this trend of various European ethnic groups seeking to deliberately replace themselves demographically. I'm Italian. I want Italy to be for Italians in the future, along with the Italian culture, history and heritage for the sake of my ancestors.

I'm also really annoyed at the Pope right now and the Church in general on it's stance on immigration and it's ridiculous application of the brotherhood of all. If my own blood sister was in major trouble, allowing her and her family to move into my house would be the last option, not the first, and it would be temporary, not permanent. And if she and her family did move in, the "culture" of my house would be altered so long as they were there. Now my sis is great so I don't think it would be that bad, but say my sis was a married lesbian atheist who likes to do menstrual art...am I really supposed to think letting her stay at my place wouldn't be disruptive to my Christian household?

BTW Vox, awesome interview with Greg Johnson

#0366

Blogger VD September 09, 2015 1:47 PM  

Has anyone got the link to the original story of the meeting at Wye where they discussed the China option?

Just refresh. I added an archived link to it.

Blogger Joshua_D September 09, 2015 1:55 PM  

Does anyone have a decent theory as to why there is so much love for the Jews and for the State of Israel among Christian Evangelicals? I'm a 38-year-old Christian Evangelical, and I just don't get it. Is "We Stand With Israel!" some kind of ethnic or identity surrogate? White Pride isn't acceptable, bu Jew/Israeli Pride seems to be.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 09, 2015 2:00 PM  

It has been said that the invasion force consists of mainly young men, well good luck with that Europe.

Blogger Cecil Henry September 09, 2015 2:06 PM  


Here is Canada's latest proud conservative cuck:
https://www.facebook.com/Chris...

We have an election in Canada and the ONE issue defining everything else is religiously and studiously avoided.

ONE Problem: AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY IS WHITE GENOCIDE!!

That is the crime. It is white Genocide. IT is state violence. Politicians past and present must be held accountable. 'Just obeying orders' is not an excuse.

The West including Canada cannot be defined simply by the rejection of Islam or as a collection of legal norms. It is a culture created by a specific people and it will be destroyed if that people is dispossessed. Europeans everywhere have the self-evident right to secure their homelands for themselves, without regard to the laims others make upon it.

Diversity is a code word for White Genocide. Enough. Freedom now. Freedom from enforced, genocidal 'diversity'.

Anonymous Pax Romana September 09, 2015 2:06 PM  

Rabbi, if you are still living in the West, stay safe, man. I know the call to risk danger in order to follow God's command to witness, but I would still urge caution.

You're too much if a staple around here for us to lose you to some Philistine.

Blogger Cecil Henry September 09, 2015 2:10 PM  

The Canadian Conservative cuck, emblematic of the evil sellout by the WHOLE Canadian establishment, is here:

https://www.facebook.com/ChrisAlexanderCanada


Truly a Camp of the Saints picture, CHOSEN as his facebook emblem.

Sick and absolutely evil to do to a nation and to every individual in it. A minister of immigration no less in Cabinet. And this is the agenda.

Blogger CM September 09, 2015 2:13 PM  

@ Joshua D,

I think its an interpretation of an actual part of scripture. I read it once and made a mental note but don't recall the passage.

Lately my mental notes don't last longer than it takes to do the laundry or load the dish washer.

Blogger Gaisereiks Gaisericus September 09, 2015 2:16 PM  

Does anyone have a decent theory as to why there is so much love for the Jews and for the State of Israel among Christian Evangelicals? I'm a 38-year-old Christian Evangelical, and I just don't get it. Is "We Stand With Israel!" some kind of ethnic or identity surrogate? White Pride isn't acceptable, bu Jew/Israeli Pride seems to be.

It's a bit meta, and therefore maybe not the answer you're looking for, but yeah: Isaiah 49, especially verses 22 and 23. It was prophesied that it would happen, therefore it happened.

Otherwise, there seems to be a cocktail of reasons why people support Israel in the West, but honestly, they seem insufficient to really explain the phenomena, in my opinion. From Holocaust guilt to British Israelism, to Jewish propaganda via Hollywood for decades, they all fail to convince.

The prophecy in Isaiah, however, is clear.

Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 2:18 PM  

Porky @22: "This is complete BS."

I'm sure you are right. The fact that different news organizations around the world all picked up on -- with most of them typically omitting any description of the suspects -- is not normal.

And the fact that the Netherlands Police official website has not one, but two entries about it themselves, also means they are in on the "BS", too, eh?

My Dutch is a bit rusty (useful enough to have found the articles, not so useful as to make an accurate translation), so I'll just have to point you to Google Translate so you can read the links yourself.

But again, I'm sure you are right...because J.

Anonymous Porky September 09, 2015 2:19 PM  

Oh, and look at the filename on the photo of the dear old victim couple:

"bejaarden".

It's a stock photo labelled "elderly".

Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 2:36 PM  

So, did you read the police reports, Porky? Do you really wanna hang your refutation on sloppy journalism...because that never happens?

Anonymous IndecisiveEvidence September 09, 2015 2:44 PM  

For what it's worth, I always supported the Jews and Israel because I always thought we were the ones winning in the alliance. They were on the front lines a bastion of white culture in the middle of savage Araby, taking the slings and arrows so we didn't have to.

I was younger then and did not quite understand that it was not as sweet a deal as advertised.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 09, 2015 2:45 PM  

Does anyone have a decent theory as to why there is so much love for the Jews and for the State of Israel among Christian Evangelicals?

I gave an explanation for that a while back which was too long to copy here, so you can read it there. Short version: while the Reformation was going on, there were quite a few Jews in the neighborhood with an ax to grind against the Church due to the Inquisition, and they had a strong influence on some offshoots such as the Puritans. That resulted in dispensationalism, which has influenced many Christian groups since, and which came charging back into the Vatican at Vatican II.

Blogger JAY WILL September 09, 2015 2:45 PM  

Immigration is being ramped up due to the fear that the proles are getting wind of the general plan so they have to get it done quick. Swift demographic changes are necessary before the "right wing neo-nazis" (patriots) organize properly. A sizable Muslim population can be leveraged against the white masses for elite control. Its going to kick off any time soon.



Anonymous Porky September 09, 2015 2:53 PM  

So, did you read the police reports, Porky?

Those aren't police reports. They are news blurbs on a police website that do not mention the names of the victims.

But it does say that the old folks were beaten and tied up but still managed to get to the balcony to yell for help. Not a bad trick for an 86 year old lady who was just drugged, knifed, tied up, and beaten so badly that she must spend the rest of her life in a wheelchair.

Move along. Nothing to see here. Nope.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 09, 2015 3:06 PM  

@28. Joshua_D

I think some of it is a result of the less than stellar outcome of the Viet Nam War. Our national morale was at a pretty low ebb in 1975 after the fall of Saigon. Where we watched in humiliation as our people fled in near panic from our embassy roof, by helicopter.

Then in 1976, Israel rescued a bunch of its citizens from Uganda in a brilliant raid on Entebbe airport.

At least in my memory that was when I remember people around me getting fired up about Israel.

Of course I was only a kid at the time so my experience may not be typical.

Blogger Tom K. September 09, 2015 3:10 PM  

Dear God! The internet anti-Semite trolls sound as ignorant as any atheist SJW out there! Their don't even TRY to make any sense in their comments. I wish I didn't have to read them first in order to ignore them. Their stupidity causes actual pain to m my prefrontal cortex.

Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 3:15 PM  

"They are news blurbs on a police website that do not mention the names of the victims."

Sure...because there are routinely multiple home invasions taking place in Amsterdam...on specific days in August...which just happen to involve the invaders impersonating police...and beating up old couples. Happen all the time, nothing to see here, nope, these are not the Jews you are looking for.

Porky, do you ever stop to analyze your posts to see if they might be too silly to publish, before you actually click the button?

Because you should.

Anonymous Grinder September 09, 2015 3:22 PM  

I think Porky is onto something. Many sketchy details to this story. Nevertheless, we are all agreed that the rising non-white migrant problems represent a growing hazard to whites just going about their business in their own countries. This story may be useful to make Jews reconsider their liberal immigration stances (to white countries) or even better, make aliyah subito.

Anonymous Alexander, #10 September 09, 2015 3:23 PM  

Is it possible, just maybe a little bit possible...

That yes, elderly Jews were in fact beaten up... but that they're kvetching more than necessary and saying they won't eat while sitting in front of a nice spread.

Y'all are arguing as if vibrants running around gleefully ruining western civilization and Jews making a great show of complaining about life in the goyim west are mutually exclusive events.

Or that the newspaper could be right in the core of the event - the assault - but nonetheless happy to go full retard and take the description of things up to 11 in its fevered delight to play up the hardship of the minority.

Fortunately, the solution is simple and both sides here can feel like a winner: The Jews can GTFO, the vibrants can GTFO. The Dutch can enjoy their tiny, would-be-underwater-anyway-if-not-for-that-germanic-engineering-knowhow corner of the Earth.

Anonymous Quartermaster September 09, 2015 3:24 PM  

@39

I re-read that post and it's BS. That was not how dispensationalism came about, nor is it an explanation of why Evangelicals support Israel. What we now know as dispensationalism was not established until the 19th century by the Plymouth Bretheren.

It is a result of God's declaration that those who blessed Abraham would be blessed and those cursed would be cursed. This has come to the fore as the study of eschatology has matured and scholars have seen that Israel was merely set aside, not replaced. It has also been seen that replacement theology is heretical as it directly clashes with scripture.

Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 3:31 PM  

"I think Porky is on something."

FTFY

"sketchy details" ≠ "complete BS"

Anonymous Porky September 09, 2015 3:33 PM  

Sure...because there are routinely multiple home invasions taking place in Amsterdam...on specific days in August...which just happen to involve the invaders impersonating police...and beating up old couples. Happen all the time, nothing to see here, nope, these are not the Jews you are looking for.

Porky, do you ever stop to analyze your posts to see if they might be too silly to publish, before you actually click the button?


Basically what you just snarked was.... 'this never happens...so it must be true."

Wow you are a moron.

Blogger Rabbi B September 09, 2015 3:33 PM  

"A lot of Jews have been assimilated into the USA, they are not going anywhere."

I'll keep banging this drum: you've identified the problem, and some may (perhaps many) continue to delude themselves, but we will be cured of our assimilation one way or another. If assimilation is your thing, at least go 'assimilate' in Israel, it will be healthier in the long run, in more ways than one, I can assure you.

@31 Pax Romana

"Rabbi, if you are still living in the West, stay safe, man. I know the call to risk danger in order to follow God's command to witness, but I would still urge caution. You're too much if a staple around here for us to lose you to some Philistine."

Thanks for the kind sentiment. Continuing to work on aliyah, but it takes time. In the meantime, I'll behave try to behave myself the best I can.

Blogger Danby September 09, 2015 3:37 PM  

@43 Tom
Their stupidity causes actual pain to m my prefrontal cortex.

That pain is in the amygdala, not the prefrontal lobe. It is you body warning you that you might have to do some thinking about things you find uncomfortable.

'That means you have a choice to make. You can do as you've always done, and run away while shouting invective, or you can hear what is being said.
Since you're probably a Gamma, I doubt you'll choose thought over avoiding discomfort. But I thought I'd make the choice clear.

Blogger buwaya September 09, 2015 3:42 PM  

A modest suggestion - counter-flooding
A ship holed below the water-line may capsize. So a common measure is to flood compartments on the other side, to bring it to an even keel.
So with unbalanced immigration.
I suggest the Europeans look to balance their Muslim influx with targeted immigration from populations that would be more compatible and unlikely to make common cause with the Muslims.
For instance, Filipinos. I volunteer my 90+ million compatriots for this duty. Mostly westernized, nearly all Catholic, relatively trouble-free (next to no crime in the Fil-American population) pretty good linguists, and well known the world over as no-drama guest workers.
Others that may work are - Chinese of course. Vietnamese, who may go over well in France. And most of Latin America.
Spain had something of this idea already, when it adopted a policy of, more or less, inviting back some of Spains closer kin.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 09, 2015 3:42 PM  

It is a result of God's declaration that those who blessed Abraham would be blessed and those cursed would be cursed.

That's the rationale for it now, but that doesn't explain how Christians adopted the idea, after centuries of believing that the Body of Christ -- Christians -- was the new Israel of the New Covenant, replacing the Israel of the Old Covenant. How that idea came to influence Christian thought was what my linked comment was about. It's not like that passage hadn't been in their bibles all along, and they didn't come up with the idea on their own.

Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 3:42 PM  

Alexander @46: "That yes, elderly Jews were in fact beaten up... but that they're kvetching more than necessary..."

Sure, it's possible. But I think the fact that their injuries dictated that they had to be lifted down by a fire ladder may be more than just 'kvetching'. In fact, it could be the type of serious injury which might put one in a wheelchair permanently, couldn't it?

Anonymous Sam the Man September 09, 2015 3:48 PM  

Story could well be true. Mrs. Blog would have been at the camp and registered under her maiden name. She might not show up in any database put together after the war.

Mr. Blog is a more interesting case, as only about 15,000 of the 140,000 Jews in Holland survived plus ~20,000 mixed blood Jews (not sure if they were in the 140,000 figure). Some categories of mixed Jews were not rounded up by the Germans (non-Talmudic for example) and he might have been one of those, as such he would not be on any survivor list for a variety of reasons. For example there were around 14,000 refugee Jews (in addition to the 140,000 on the books) in 1941 when the Germans did their census. He might have been from Germany and smart enough not to register as Jewish, the Dutch Jews were among the most assimilated of any Western European state. If the individual managed to escape the initial census without the Jude designation, was assimilated and lived in a place where not one would rat him out (my own particular issue with the Dutch), he or she could have survived the war without interference.

In any case I would not disregard the story until all facts are known.

As regards the Temple and the Obama stickers.....That may well be true but birds of a feather flock together, so do liberal folks. Those same Jews are very anti-gun and seem to follow the same old patterns that lead to disaster in Europe. A lot of Jews who have left that particular mind set and left the reservation so to speak, as they are a minority in their own community do not attend that type of Temple, except for family obligations when they have to sat through.

In any case about 20 to 25 percent of US Jews do not fit the liberal eastern European mindset and are much more at home in a American gun club than any New York Hadassah.

Blogger buwaya September 09, 2015 3:55 PM  

Filipinos are a good fit for the US too, for that matter.
1. No powerful, ambitious polity across the sea to compete for their loyalty
2. Christian
3. No temptation to irredentist ambitions
4. Reasonably intelligent - SAT scores are at US white levels
5. Trouble-free (see above)
6. Work really well in racial mixtures. The resulting population will be good-looking anyway.

Anonymous WaterBoy September 09, 2015 3:56 PM  

Porky @49: "Basically what you just snarked was.... 'this never happens...so it must be true.""

Starting with a weasel word, never a good sign.

But again, you are hopelessly wrong. What I did was point out that your insinuating the police report...excuse me, the report posted on the police website...could have been a different elderly couple who was attacked by intruders using the same M.O. on the same day in the same city, simply because those reports declined to name the victims (and no police force anywhere in the world does that, right?) was nothing but a lame-ass attempt to DISQUALIFY it as evidence that this apparently did happen.

But do please continue to double-down in your desperate effort to continue your narrative.

Anonymous Porky September 09, 2015 3:56 PM  

Story could well be true. Mrs. Blog would have been at the camp and registered under her maiden name. She might not show up in any database put together after the war.

Already checked for first name only and there is no match. She claims to have shown the reporter her tattoo, which would positively identify her. Amazingly, the reporter failed to get even a single photo of this walking miracle who survived two antisemitic attacks.

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OpenID eidolon1109 September 09, 2015 4:00 PM  

Does anyone have a decent theory as to why there is so much love for the Jews and for the State of Israel among Christian Evangelicals?

Odd that nobody has mentioned the reasons that I think of.

1. Respect for their contributions to civilization. God did most of the work, of course, but that's always the case. We have much of the knowledge about God and civilization we have by means of the Israelites. Whatever faults they may have, without them we would all be tremendously worse off.

While it may not be any virtue of theirs that brought us the gains we have through them, it still feels ungrateful not to recognize their important role in moving civilization forward out of the paganism of Moloch and getting religion moving forward towards Christianity. For a long time, Judaism was the truest faith that had ever existed, and the Jews the closest to Truth of all people born after the Fall.

2. Respect for a people that takes security seriously -- in this case I think respect which accrues to the state of Israel tends to get shared with Jewish people in general, more to the concept of "the Jews" than any individual. Israel takes sensible actions to defend itself and doesn't apologize (much) compared to Western nations. Its military is comparatively very strong for its small size and any people who can survive completely surrounded by bitter enemies for such a long time (both in antiquity and modern Israel) command some level of respect.

I think there's also a respect for a modern people who actually fight for their existence. Americans especially have never really had to do this since America became an independent nation, at least not through arms.

Having recently heard the various arguments against Jews living in non-Jewish societies (it seems pretty indisputable that an awful lot of the ideas most corrosive to the West are disproportionately championed by Jews) these reasons still remain for me. At any rate these reasons aren't incompatible with being happy to see them all go to Israel or being frustrated with their complicity in ruining Western nations.

Anonymous Athor Pel September 09, 2015 4:21 PM  

"28. Blogger Joshua_D September 09, 2015 1:55 PM
Does anyone have a decent theory as to why there is so much love for the Jews and for the State of Israel among Christian Evangelicals? I'm a 38-year-old Christian Evangelical, and I just don't get it. Is "We Stand With Israel!" some kind of ethnic or identity surrogate? White Pride isn't acceptable, bu Jew/Israeli Pride seems to be."



It really doesn't matter where it came from. What the phenomenon proves is that a very large number of nominal Christians don't read their Bibles. That's my glib answer.

But seriously, it goes all the way back to Abraham. The Lord promised to bless those who blessed him and curse those who cursed him.

It's all built on that promise.

But being literalists they tell themselves, I want on God's good side, find me a son of Abraham so I can bless him and then all we gotta do is sit back and wait for God to bless us. It's akin to the "name it and claim it" / "health and wealth" doctrine in many American churches.

They don't look at the whole history of Israel / Judah / Samaria. Where the promises to Abraham and Moses become curses depending on the behavior of the twelve tribes.

They misidentify who is helping whom. The want America to be God's hand in helping Israel. When from scripture we see what God thinks of anyone on earth helping His people.

"Isaiah 31
1 Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help
And rely on horses,
And trust in chariots because they are many
And in horsemen because they are very strong,
But they do not look to the Holy One of Israel, nor seek the LORD!
2 Yet He also is wise and will bring disaster
And does not retract His words,
But will arise against the house of evildoers
And against the help of the workers of iniquity.
3 Now the Egyptians are men and not God,
And their horses are flesh and not spirit;
So the LORD will stretch out His hand,
And he who helps will stumble
And he who is helped will fall,
And all of them will come to an end together. "

Anonymous BGS September 09, 2015 4:25 PM  

think it is considerably more likely that Israel will refuse to grant free entry to all of America's Jews.

The "godless bacon eating cock suckers are not jews" argument http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/ben-shapiro-why-jews-vote-leftist could be why gay jews fear Bibi.

14. Rabbi B: "Time to git while the gittin' is good. Israel is imploring Jews to make aliyah."

Didn't Bibi say the religious jews should come by plane or boat, but the rest should wait for the trains.

the cause of the European genocide? The Europeans weren't even reproducing at replacement level. They have been genociding themselves

There are more Europeans now than there was 100 years ago, I don't think Ireland is back up to its pre potato famine population, but if it was still only irish they wouldn't be genocided.
You can't ignore the power of hatred. If it's worse for the goyim they may still count it a win.

For those that don't know I am a gay conservative I say the problem with" "white privilege" is that it has been what everyone has said about jews since the beginning of time".

Occasionally I wonder if the Learned Elders of Wye consider a steady stream of Jewish victims a necessity.

They prefer fake victims like the jewish student caught on camera putting a swastika on her own door ect...ect.

And there's no Shmuel Blog in the holocaust survivors database. He was gassed 3x and almost made into a lampshade

A lot of Jews have been assimilated into the USA I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Temple. I think I was the only car in the parking lot without an Obama sticker on it

MOSHE JONES & THE TEMPLE OF THE BACON EATING GAY RABBI

Blogger FALPhil September 09, 2015 4:27 PM  

@28 Joshua_D wrote:
Does anyone have a decent theory as to why there is so much love for the Jews and for the State of Israel among Christian Evangelicals? I'm a 38-year-old Christian Evangelical, and I just don't get it. Is "We Stand With Israel!" some kind of ethnic or identity surrogate? White Pride isn't acceptable, bu Jew/Israeli Pride seems to be.


I'm with you, brother. I mean, I can see the Israeli state as a counterbalance in the Middle East as part of this world, but John 14:6 tells us that spiritually, they have been left behind, except for the 144,000 (and I don't know if this is literal or just a big number to make a point) in Rev 14, which I have to assume means that those are believers in Christ, since THE MAN says what he means and means what he says.

Having gone over this several times and using scripture to interpret scripture, I have come to the conclusion that the definition of "Israel" is a New Israel, that is, the body of believers, and that they are not necessarily Hebrew. Christ saves the World, but he doesn't save every individual in the World, re: Rom 9:6, & 13-15. So, it is my duty to evangelize Jews along with all other unbelievers, God's will be done.

From a foreign policy standpoint, I see Israel as a rat hole to throw US tax money down. Israel has been a excuse to meddle in Middle Eastern affairs. I would like to see the US quit subsidizing them, along with all other foreign governments who cannot suppor themselves.

As a Christian and an American, I see Israel as one of many small countries attempting to bamboozle largess out of the USA. As such, I have no particular love for them any more than, say, Belize, which provides much more value to the US than Israel does.

Blogger ray September 09, 2015 4:28 PM  

"It seems to me that the Learned Elders of Wye would be well advised to reconsider their previous position on homogenous white Christian populations"


It seems to me that the self-appointed 'elders' of Judaism would be even better advised to stop pretending they can fix global socio-cultural issues, start honoring and obeying their Messiah, and embrace the words of the prophets given to them by God. Oh, and go rent some humility, fast.

But they are too busy making important Decisions and Pronouncements. For a people not belonging to them.

Where is the authority for them to run Israel, state or person? God did not anoint them and God's servants did not authorize them. They have about as much authority as Debbie Wasserman Schultz to decide the course of Israel. (Couldn't resist another jab at her.)

The world teems with fake rabbis like America bloats with fake pastors. Which of them knows the heart of God?

Many of these self-appointed 'Jewish' authorities spent the past half-century turning the West into satan's secular paradise, complete with endless Steinems and Abzugs in full rebel screech, degrading the names of Judaism and of Israel . . . and yet here they are, convening to assure the world that they Know What's Best for Israel. The Institute for Policy Planning? The WHAT? The LORD plans and executes policy for Israel, not '15 Prominent Jewish Leaders' as determined by . . . whom?

The Jewish Defense League? Bleh.

Yahweh Lord is Israel's only defense. That doesn't mean lay down your weapons. It means lay down your pride.

The day will come when Israel, both nation and people, will beg for Christ, the King of Judah. They will not be strutting around Making Policy in Columbia's District on that day.

Until then they will be meat for the Bacon Eaters gathering in this dying world, who already have them on menu as main course. Good luck with that Policy Planning!



Blogger luagha September 09, 2015 4:28 PM  

Just so long as you leave out the Abu Sayyaf and the Moros/MNLF, buwaya, I'm all for your counterweight plan.

I'm sure BigGay Steve and his hospital experience will confirm what I've heard of the 'Filipino Mafia' of nurses throughout the hospital system, and that is this: Be good to them and you will never have better friends who help you out through thick or thin - piss them off and you won't get nothing.

I learn/teach Filipino martial arts so I have similar beneficial experiences.

OpenID eidolon1109 September 09, 2015 4:29 PM  

It also seems to many that having Israel there is great because it a) concentrates Muslim hatred on people who aren't us, and b) leads to battles which weaken and sometimes humiliate Muslim nations. Also, most things which would be threats to Israel which Israel destroys or attacks would eventually be problems for Europe, which means that would be problems for NATO, which means they would be problems for the US.

Basically they're the only ones who could ever be allies with the West who ever actually fight Muslims, so support for them is helpful in fighting Islam in general and keeping it a little weaker and more preoccupied, and it doesn't require us to do anything directly.

Perhaps the Ilk would disagree with those assessments to some extent, but I think those are the assessments Evangelicals tend to make.

Blogger ray September 09, 2015 4:36 PM  

"Men forced their way into home of Shmuel Blog, 87 and his wife Diana, 86. They beat and kicked the pair and demanded they hand over valuables. Called Mr and Mrs Blog 'dirty Jews', tore off their rings and tied them up. Mr Blog was left blinded with a broken thigh and wheelchair-bound for life. Mrs Blog is also confined to a wheelchair suffering from 'extreme pains'"


Yep that's what The Bacon Eaters do to blogs.

Blogger ray September 09, 2015 4:41 PM  

"I think I was the only car in the parking lot without an Obama sticker on it. The percentage you speak of is 0%."


Not true. It only seems like they're all Neo-Bolsheviks, because that's who gets all the attention and coverage, whatta surprise. There is a limited group of real Hebrews, both within and without the State of Israel. They don't always belong to any organization or group, but as with Gentiles, God knows his own.

Anonymous GRRM September 09, 2015 4:43 PM  

"Yep that's what The Bacon Eaters do to blogs."

On my Not A Blog, I posted about how I was disappointed that there was no rape involved.

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Anonymous Discard September 09, 2015 4:45 PM  

56. buwaya: Get rid of the Chinese that own your country and you'd have a little paradise for yourselves.

Blogger Rabbi B September 09, 2015 4:47 PM  

Didn't Bibi say the religious jews should come by plane or boat,but the rest should wait for the trains.

The rest probably will. They are convinced that assimilation is their salvation. Assimilation is the cause of most anti-Semitism. No matter how much we try to be Americans or whatever else first or Jews 'not at all,' the nations will remind us that we are Jews first.

See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. For I command you today to love the L-rd your G-d, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the L-rd your G-d will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.

But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

It's simple: the offer or life or death is set before us. He even tells us what to choose and wonders why we would die.

Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? (cf. Ezekiel 18)

It's a damn good question.

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Blogger SirHamster (#201) September 09, 2015 5:04 PM  

Does anyone have a decent theory as to why there is so much love for the Jews and for the State of Israel among Christian Evangelicals?
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But being literalists they tell themselves, I want on God's good side, find me a son of Abraham so I can bless him and then all we gotta do is sit back and wait for God to bless us. It's akin to the "name it and claim it" / "health and wealth" doctrine in many American churches.


It's more than self-interest, though. There's a genuine sense that God's has stepped in to take care of Israel through the past 60~ years - and that it is better to be helpful than unhelpful to that end.

Maybe it's an Evangelical thing to be very binary and treat the situation as - "Help/Don't Help" vs. "Help/Don't Help/Harm", where "Don't Help" may be a valid alternative to "Harm". The spiritual condition of Israel "deserving help" doesn't enter into the equation.

It would go with the thinking that treats indiscriminate good as a proper application of the Christian faith. Which is true in a sense, yet falls short if applied universally (single moms are just like widows!).

I'd say it's a product of the emphasis on the Grace of the Gospel, and seeing that same sort of grace given to Israel throughout it's ancient history, and thinking there's something similar going on now. There's also the place where James says prayers of good intentions are not a substitute for action.

Perhaps it's like seeing Israel as the irreligious older brother who's disgraced the family name, yet is still part of the family. The support is mostly reflexive emotion rather than careful reason.

Blogger Dexter September 09, 2015 5:16 PM  

My neighborhood has lots of smug, annoying liberal Jews.

It also has increasing numbers of burqa women (don't see the male version for some reason... not that I really want to...)

I hope the latter group is making the former group increasingly uncomfortable. If not, it's only a matter of time.

Blogger Dexter September 09, 2015 5:19 PM  

"Men forced their way into home of..."

Try that shit around here and you'll get a chest full of .308.

Unless you pick the house with the Obama sign and the Prius in the driveway, bahahaha. They don't like no evil scary black guns.

Anonymous Dave September 09, 2015 5:24 PM  

Mr. and Mrs. Blog fabricated this story out of whole cloth. They say two jewhaters invaded their domicile and the worst slur they came up with is "dirty jews". This has all the signs of a drug deal gone bad so the Blogs' invented this convenient cover story.

Blogger Rabbi B September 09, 2015 5:26 PM  

@61 Athor Pel

"It's akin to the "name it and claim it" / "health and wealth" doctrine in many American churches."

Yeah . . . rub the magic Jew and your bank account will never be empty and all of your ills will be healed.

"When from scripture we see what God thinks of anyone on earth helping His people."

Then all who live in Egypt will know that I am the L-rd.

“‘You have been a staff of reed for the people of Israel. When they grasped you with their hands, you splintered and you tore open their shoulders; when they leaned on you, you broke and their backs were wrenched.

More of the same principle here. Well said, Athor Pel.

Blogger buwaya September 09, 2015 5:43 PM  

The California Department of Education testing system is one of the best sources of Filipino academic performance figures, given that it has extremely large sample sizes. In this respect its at least as good as the NAEP, and that does not break out Filipinos.

http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/Acnt2013/2013GrthStAPI.aspx

Its clear that Filipinos outperform non-Hispanic whites by a bit, though they aren't in the league of "Asians" - this category is mainly Chinese, with Vietnamese, Indians and Koreans as the next few components.

So, if one wants to import a replacement population, Filipinos are an attractive option, given their other advantages in terms of cultural compatibility, lack of political implications, etc.. One need not worry about any dysgenic consequences.

And, for what its worth, most Filipinos barely know what a Jew is, and those that do think they are just another flavor of the Americans, whom they love anyway. If any population on earth can be said to have absolutely no prejudice against Jews, it would probably be the Filipinos.

The Filipino "brand" has suffered from a lack of marketing, mainly. They are an underutilized demographic resource, fully available to mitigate any unfortunate immigration patterns.

Blogger Elocutioner #0226 September 09, 2015 5:58 PM  

@79 buwaya - Thanks, but no thanks. We went to the moon within a decade and we can handle these invaders just fine on our own. Focus on cleaning your own house. Doubling the foreign population and having them war in the living room is a less than optimal solution for expelling the foreign population.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar September 09, 2015 6:28 PM  

Your concern for the enemy is touching it really is, but Europe isn't commiting suicide the Jews are. They are stabbing their last friend in the back. Israel won't be around much longer. Iran is getting a nice bomb from Obama and The USA will probably not be sending them anything after the next Civil War they caused. That China plan is funny it really is. I'd love to see them say racism to Chinese. Close your eyes when they do, it'd make the Marquis deSade cry. This is the worst plan ever if its really a plan. It might be a plan if its a suicide pact, otherwise maybe Satan just set them up. Satan has this MO where he kills all his followers. He's not just evil, he's famous for the double cross. Good thing they listened to him instead of Jesus, cause I never really like them anyway.

Blogger Tommy Hass September 09, 2015 6:51 PM  

"Iran is getting a nice bomb from Obama"

Pat Buchanan has refuted this shit a while ago.

Blogger Tommy Hass September 09, 2015 6:55 PM  

"It also seems to many that having Israel there is great because it a) concentrates Muslim hatred on people who aren't us, and b) leads to battles which weaken and sometimes humiliate Muslim nations. Also, most things which would be threats to Israel which Israel destroys or attacks would eventually be problems for Europe, which means that would be problems for NATO, which means they would be problems for the US."

Hey moron, Israel is why they hate you in the first place.

Anonymous BGS September 09, 2015 7:09 PM  

I thought evangelicals liked jews because they need them to make Armageddon come sooner.

Yeah . . . rub the magic Jew and your bank account will never be empty and all of your ills will be healed.

I had a jewish boyfriend before it didn't seem to work.

QQ "Here Gheynega Bond is your new roofie ring"
Gheynega "Did you fix the problem that da the white women remember agent C00sby?"
QQ "This is to help you escape, not pick up women in elevators"

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 09, 2015 9:35 PM  

@83 Tommy Haas

Hey moron, Israel is why they hate you in the first place

This is a very common view, although we know that nothing less than global Muslim hegemony is the desired result, however, it will do for purposes of discussion. Now that you have told us what "their" view is, what is your personal opinion on the matter?

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 09, 2015 9:40 PM  

@83 Tommy Haas

Hey moron, Israel is why they hate you in the first place

This is a very common view, although we know that nothing less than global Muslim hegemony is the desired result, however, it will do for purposes of discussion. Now that you have told us what "their" view is, what is your personal opinion on the matter?

Anonymous Daniel H September 09, 2015 9:41 PM  

>> leads to battles which weaken and sometimes humiliate Muslim nations.

To be a Muslim is to exist in a perpetual and constant state of humiliation. Humiliation is the animating force of their history.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 09, 2015 9:41 PM  

@83 Tommy Haas

Hey moron, Israel is why they hate you in the first place

This is a very common view, although we know that nothing less than global Muslim hegemony is the desired result, however, it will do for purposes of discussion. Now that you have told us what "their" view is, what is your personal opinion on the matter?

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 09, 2015 9:45 PM  

Oh my. This is very difficult. Just answer one, Tommy

Anonymous zen0 the Repetitive or Lost or Intermittant Depending on the Time of Day September 09, 2015 9:51 PM  

FFS

Blogger automatthew September 09, 2015 9:52 PM  

Big Gay Steve,

Here's an optional challenge. Can you go three days without making a comment that rubs your homosexuality in our faces?

Blogger automatthew September 09, 2015 9:54 PM  

zen00000000000000000

Blogspot really must hate you. I have no idea why your comments are so capriciously spammed.

Anonymous zen0 the Humble September 09, 2015 10:00 PM  

@ 93

> Blogspot really must hate you. I have no idea why your comments are so capriciously spammed.

It intuits that I am a bad person. A very, very, very bad person. I accept its judgement with humility.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell September 09, 2015 10:11 PM  

Mr. Kratman, I read Caliphate a few years ago and it's scary how much this current Muslim invasion of Europe resembles the events in your book. There are 40 million Muslims in a continent of 500 million. This is a higher ratio than the Muslim conquerors of the 600s. Terrifying times are ahead. I fear that we'll either see Caliphate or the Fourth Reich.

Anonymous delta co red dogs September 09, 2015 10:26 PM  

The evangelicals I know are likable, serious people who read the Bible a lot; the "Jews are useful because they will make the Armageddon come sooner" ones are, to the extent they even exist, a small, commercial, entertainment-focused minority of evangelicals. Many real-life evangelicals, in this year of 2015, can easily name several dozen Jews who were prominently named in the Bible, and can name, for most of those Jews, the reason why their bad decisions (from the uxorious Adam to the selfishly polygamous Abraham to proud lustful David to unfaithfully curious Solomon to, before the years of silence, the last of the Old Testament Jews - a line of good men, but, sadly, almost all with real sins in their heart) were not met with favor by God's just and righteous disposition of those decisions. Exceptions (that is, Jews whose decisions were always met with favor) include Daniel, Ruth and Naomi, John the Baptist, and several of the prophets. Five or more kings of Judah are considered good: the revivals they encouraged were essential in keeping Israel an independent and blessed nation long enough for the ancestors of Jesus to live long enough to faithfully raise children who would become, in their turn, ancestors of Jesus. Who reading this would not be multiply more blessed than they are now to live such a life? (not a rhetorical question, by the way...) Most Evangelicals who have paid attention to a year or two's worth of good sermons know that all the kings of Israel (one of the two Jewish kingdoms throughout much of Old Testament histroy) are considered bad; and even only a few kings of Judah, the other Jewish kingdom, are considered good. Evangelicals' understanding of Judaism may be more or less accurate than most people think, but it is just plain wrong to characterize Evangelicals as a group as thinking that Jews are merely a tool for a more dramatic and more proximate Armageddon; gratitude towards the people who through long hard generations raised their children successfully enough to finally result in the generation that included Mary and Joseph and Elizabeth and Zacharias and their children, and the slightly younger generation of apostles and the first martyr Stephen, and even Gamaliel (from the earlier generation) and Paul, is a much more essential characteristic of the grateful Evangelical attitude towards Jews than the gawking rustic excitement about Armageddon, which maybe almost none of us will live to see, that has been described one or more times in this thread. Anyway, we all can contribute, just as much as the ignorant hordes in the Old Testament, to the love God has for Jews, and for those whom one Jew in particular has been trying to lead to Heaven. Reading the Bible, particularly the most blunt and clear parts, like the Book of Proverbs and the Gospel of Mark, rather than reading bestsellers about Armageddon, is a good way to continue in this path (and, for those who haven't started, a good way to start in this path). Or if you don't want to read the Bible on your own, try and show up for Sunday services or Sunday Latin Rite Mass for a few weeks at least; usually, the music is acceptable, and sometimes rather good, and the people are generally friendly but careful not to make you feel uncomfortable, and often there are good meals to be had afterwards, if you (or you and whoever you go with) are not averse to that. Anyway, don't spend too much of your life thinking about contemporary geopolitics.

Anonymous zen0 the ertsatz jew September 09, 2015 10:26 PM  

> Blogspot really must hate you. I have no idea why your comments are so capriciously spammed.

A answered by saying I would accept its judgement with humility.............and it spammed the mofo

I feel like a jew

Blogger Doom September 10, 2015 12:42 AM  

Meh. They never believed Jews would do any better. They knew some, perhaps many, would be targeted. But the ones with the power to influence aren't even on the typical Jews' side. Most Jews aren't very Jewish, certainly not those who have chosen wealth, power, and progressive beliefs over their God... which is pretty much all of their elites. If that is, to a degree, true of all elites, Jewish, Catholic *cough* Kennedys *cough*, WASP, and secular.

Then again, Jewish elites are often split. Those who believe (somehow) that Judaism should end (while continuing in an obnoxiously offensive Jew-pride). Those who believe Judaism should return to Israel. And some other groups. Big money and influence on each of the various sides. Like it or not, Jews are disproportionately influential. But it's a cursed thing. Often, as with Hitler, perhaps even Stalin and other such, they only have themselves to blame, or in large part. As a group, and through their elites, they almost invariably work for those who will destroy them, and do if they gain enough power. They have helped these people to power, including Obama.

Blogger SciVo September 10, 2015 1:22 AM  

buwaya @79: "So, if one wants to import a replacement population, Filipinos are an attractive option, given their other advantages in terms of cultural compatibility, lack of political implications, etc.. One need not worry about any dysgenic consequences."

I like Filipinos, they're nice, but they're also some of the most clannish people I've ever worked with. Within days of starting a job, I was warned by a co-worker that all of the Filipinos talk to each other outside of work, and to offend one is to offend all. Observation confirmed the wisdom of the warning.

I prefer them to many alternatives, but they are not an unalloyed good. They definitely put themselves and their own first. If we want to keep our high-trust culture and all of the business and lifestyle benefits that flow from it, the best (or really, only) option is get our immigration under control and our Anglo-American birthrate up.

Blogger Godless Heathen September 10, 2015 1:59 AM  

@92 automatthew

...that rubs your homosexuality in our faces?

I could have gone a long time without that visual.

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 10, 2015 2:46 AM  

Like a lot of things, the idea that Israel- defending is a national duty is heavily concentrated in the GOP, on the right side. The party uses the religious adhrence of its members to corral them into supporting Israel at any cost.

It is true that the dispensationalists provided the rhetorical ammunition, with their notion that Christians referring to ourselves as Israel is "spiritualising" and that all the promises made to Israel must be literally fulfilled to a literal nation-state based in Jerusalem.

This doctrine suits the purposes of both Zionists and the GOP warhawks - two powerful factions in US politics - and so it has been heavily promoted at every opportunity.

It doesnt matter that it makes no sense, it judt has to sound plausible because it gives a lot of idiots "good reason" to do what they already want to do anyway, i.e. bomb the wogs.

If anyone's actually interested I'd be happy to explain the many failings in dispensationalist theology, but it aint necessary to grasp this point.

A secondary factor is that it helps to perpetuate the stupid idea that Israel has some mesmeric hold over the US political elite, when it is of course the other way around: Israel is the US' junk yard dog in the middle east and her presence there has been of lasting convenience to TPTB

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 10, 2015 3:15 AM  

Re: "...the stupid idea that Israel has some mesmeric hold over the US political elite..."

Mearsheimer, John J.; Stephen M Walt (2008-06-26). The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy. Penguin Books Ltd.

Anonymous Clay September 10, 2015 4:29 AM  

As much as the Europes seem to be the makers of "immigration" fighter, I don't see them doing a damn thing.

They are pussies.

Forget the damn Jews. Why would they give a shit what's going on in Europe?

Anonymous VD September 10, 2015 4:33 AM  

I had a jewish boyfriend before it didn't seem to work.

BGS, you really need to understand that even the other gays here are not as interested in the fact that you are gay as you are. Seriously, you're gay. Everyone grasps that. So get over it already. Everyone else has.

There are more than a few men here who have had lots of girlfriends, and somehow they manage to comment here regularly without ever feeling the need to refer to any of them. Please learn from their example.

Anonymous anonymous coward September 10, 2015 5:19 AM  

It's a bit meta, and therefore maybe not the answer you're looking for, but yeah: Isaiah 49, especially verses 22 and 23. It was prophesied that it would happen, therefore it happened.

22 Thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.


The verse is obviously Christ, not the state of Israel. How whacked-out and lacking of Grace does one need to be to confuse Christ and the Israeli state??

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 10, 2015 5:21 AM  

101. Clay: "Forget the damn Jews."

You may forget them, but they won't forget us.

This thread exists because of a story about two Jewish Holocaust survivors. Auschwitz concentration camp is illustrated prominently. Mrs Blog still carries the scars she got being attacked by guard dogs. Do you think they're going to forget?

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 10, 2015 6:06 AM  

Whitey:

"During the 1998–1999 academic year, he was the Whitney H. Shepardson Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York."

That's Mearsheimer. But while both have done some interesting work, they both also suffer from the standard Establishment presumptions. The CFR are not some disinterested ivory tower monastic scholars; they are one of the primary promoters of American military hegemony.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 10, 2015 6:11 AM  

ScuzzaMan, you're going to disqualify Mearsheimer and Walt? Seriously?

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 10, 2015 9:46 AM  

ScuzzaMan: you're going to pull "disqualify" on Mearsheimer and Walt?

Anonymous rienzi September 10, 2015 10:05 AM  

@48. Quartermaster: "It is a result of God's declaration that those who blessed Abraham would be blessed and those cursed would be cursed. This has come to the fore as the study of eschatology has matured and scholars have seen that Israel was merely set aside, not replaced. It has also been seen that replacement theology is heretical as it directly clashes with scripture."


But this raises the question: Just WHO is Abraham? If you've done any genealogy at all, you would know that things get real complicated, real fast. For instance, all of the royal families of Europe are direct descendants of Muhammed.

Given the wide dispersion of the Jews throughout Europe even before Titus trashed them in 70 AD, and the intermarriages which occurred over two millennia, it would be hard for anyone with a European background NOT to be a descendant of Abraham.

So just who is God going to smite here? Those who attack: A Marxist, atheist Israeli? A Felix Mendelssohn who spent his entire life as a Lutheran? A Chinese convert to Judaism? Messianic Jews for Jesus? The state of Israel itself, which is full of Arab non-Jews? What about the descendants of the lost Ten Tribes? Do they count?

The Ashkenazim are reported to be descended from Italians on their maternal side. If God were to write in flaming letters in the sky, that you better not mess with the Italians, do the Ashkenazim get a pass on that?

We are pretty much all "Abraham" by now. Some more so than others, but the scripture you quote doesn't have any qualifiers.

Personally, I am less than happy to probably have ancestors that totally ignored God's laws, and their "special" status completely by building altars in high places where they burnt children alive. Makes my Viking predecessors look positively benign in comparison.

Anonymous Porky September 10, 2015 10:41 AM  

Well this sure is weird. There is no Shmuel Blog, Samuel Blog, or Diana Blog in the Amsterdam white pages directory.

Oy vey!

Blogger Tom Kratman September 10, 2015 12:04 PM  

Derrick, honestly, I think Jean Raspail pegged this one better than I did.

Anonymous BGS September 10, 2015 12:27 PM  

Forget the damn Jews. Why would they give a shit what's going on in Europe?

Profiting form destruction.
1.Destroy economy
2. buy hard assets with fiat fractional reserve currency
3. Call people who notice names

Blogger Marissa September 10, 2015 2:00 PM  

Thanks, but no thanks. We went to the moon within a decade and we can handle these invaders just fine on our own. Focus on cleaning your own house. Doubling the foreign population and having them war in the living room is a less than optimal solution for expelling the foreign population.

Seconded.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 10, 2015 5:51 PM  

80. buwaya: "So, if one wants to import a replacement population..."

If.

Anonymous WaterBoy September 10, 2015 7:57 PM  

Porky @111: "Well this sure is weird. There is no Shmuel Blog, Samuel Blog, or Diana Blog in the Amsterdam white pages directory."

And once again, Porky demonstrates his unfamiliarity with the way modern technology works, by being totally ignorant of "unlisted numbers".

Wake up and smell the 21st century, chowderhead!

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