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Tuesday, September 08, 2015

Rent seekers, not refugees

At this point, a lot of Europeans are beginning to think that Vlad the Impaler's solution is the correct one to the violent invasion of Western Europe:
I saw an elderly Italian woman in a car that was surrounded by the immigrants. They pulled her by the hair out of the car and wanted to use it to go to Germany. They tried to topple the bus i was in. They threw feces at us, banging on the door for the driver to open it, spat on the glass. My question is- for what purpose? How do they want to assimilate in Germany? For a moment, i felt like in a warzone. I really feel sorry for these people, but if they would reach Poland – I do not think they would receive any understanding from us.

We spent three hours on the border, but failed to get through. The whole group was later transported back to Italy by the police. The bus is butchered, feces smeared, scratched, broken windows. And this is supposed to be an idea for the demographics? These big powerful hordes?

Among them there were almost no women and children – the vast majority was aggressive young men. Just yesterday I read the news on all the websites with real compassion, worried about their fate and today after what I saw I am just afraid. And I am happy they do not choose our country as their destination. We Poles are simply not ready to accept these people – neither culturally nor financially. I do not know if anyone is ready. A giant pathology is approaching the EU, one which we have never seen before. And sorry if anyone is offended by this entry.

A car with humanitarian aid came. Food and water. They just toppled it and stole everything. With megaphones the Austrians announced a message that there is consensus for them to cross over the border – they wanted to register them and let them go on – but they did not understand these messages. None. And it was all the greatest horror … From those few thousand people nobody understood neither Italian nor English, or German, or Russian, or Spanish … What mattered was the law of the fist.
The media coverage is even worse than you think. Do you know why a lot of those "desperate refugees fleeing the Syrian war" are so well-dressed in relatively clean clothes? Because 39 percent of them are from the Balkans. They're EASTERN EUROPEAN MUSLIMS, they are not from the Middle East or Africa at all, and they aren't fleeing anything except the societies they've already ruined.
About a fifth of asylum seekers to Germany in the first half of the year were from war-torn Syria, giving them a strong claim to refugee status. But about 39 per cent were from the western Balkans and primarily seeking better economic opportunities, giving them little chance of qualifying for asylum.
And, of course, one wouldn't want to offend these poor, helpless, grateful people, so the German girls need to start dressing differently, as one school in Bavaria near a "refugee" shelter has already instructed the parents of its students:
"As our school is in the immediate vicinity, it would be appropriate to wear restrained everyday clothes, to avoid conflict. Transparent tops or blouses, short shorts or miniskirts could lead to misunderstandings. In addition, you are asked to refrain from "direct eye contact, ogling, or photographing. Derogatory or racist remarks can not be tolerated in any way."
This is why the Social Justice ideals of Equality, Diversity, Tolerance, and Progress must be rejected, completely. Because this is exactly where it leads.

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165 Comments:

Blogger Alexandros HoMegas September 08, 2015 4:29 AM  

Europe will pay for destroying Yugoslavia only to save Albanian/Kosovar muslim criminals and terrorists.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 4:38 AM  

I suspect soon many Europeans will develop an appreciation for why South Africa had a policy of apartheid, although none will admit it.

Anonymous Anonymous September 08, 2015 4:43 AM  

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Blogger Cataline Sergius September 08, 2015 5:41 AM  

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Blogger Sherwood family September 08, 2015 5:43 AM  

This "policy" (if we should give it the dignity of such a term) is something straight out of the Roman Crisis of the Third Century. Note: Do not let the barbarian hordes in. They do not assimilate. Do not let them across the borders. Keep them out and strengthen the borders!

This modern day Völkerwanderung will end up the same way that the last one did: with a Dark Age. It was only after these hordes were successfully Christianized, that these polities were able to move toward science, learning, and civilization.

But, in the mean time, the Romans as a political institution were destroyed in the West and reduced to a weakened rump state in the East. This weakness made Romans/Byzantines weaker in their fight against the Persians under Heraclius and, having survived that titanic struggle, incapable of crushing the Muslim hordes that boiled up from the desert.

A full Empire, East and West, which had more wisely dealt with the Barbarian invasions of in the run up to the 3rd century would likely have been better able to deal with the Islamic invasions of the 6th.

However, compared to the Romans, modern Europeans and Americans (or at least the elite who run their governments) are pagan adherents of a suicide cult, praying ardently for their own extinction.

Blogger Jew613 September 08, 2015 5:48 AM  

Telling their citizens to alter their speech, dress and not make eye contact. Its as if the authorities are aware if the dhimmi laws are enforcing them now in anticipation of Muslim rule.

Anonymous ticticboom September 08, 2015 5:48 AM  

Aw, how cute, you think TBTB give a damn what the people want.

Oh, and pick a name.

I wonder how many native girls will have to gangraped before their menfolk spit upon their hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. My guess is a lot. And the longer the pressure builds, the worse it will be when it finally bursts.

Mexicans (and other Central Americans) better hope Trump or someone else willing to tackle immigration wins. Same for the Arabs and Africans in Europe. Deportation is far preferable to pogroms or mass graves.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 08, 2015 5:49 AM  

So when the Germans abandon Germany, do we let them in here?

They've done alright by use in the past. Well educated, well behaved and with an average IQ that is a standard deviation above the mean.

But the culture rot is looking to be bone deep with this latest crop. I'd have to say no.

Anonymous ticticboom September 08, 2015 5:52 AM  

@Cataline:

Most of the younger ones I've dealt with are a big improvement on the previous generations.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 September 08, 2015 6:11 AM  

Kill a few now or kill them all later: choose.

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 08, 2015 6:13 AM  

Cataline, dont mistake the likes of Merkel and rest of that EU superstate crowd, for the oeople of any of the constituent nations. Most of them are still asleep, true, but that is a condition life has a way of fixing ...

Blogger Thordaddy September 08, 2015 6:15 AM  

In a continent chock full of de facto homos there shall be much bending over with no Vaseline.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 6:18 AM  

@8. Cataline Sergius: "So when the Germans abandon Germany, do we let them in here? "

Blood cries out to blood. And it's not like our own ruling class is un-corrupted.

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 08, 2015 6:19 AM  

P.S. Merkel is sn east German former Communist Party member. Lke the previous Pope's membership of the Hitler Jugend, she too claims she had no choice. But, well, we know we always have a choice, and character is demonstrated by making the hard choices not by going along to get along.

Anonymous Jeffrey Quick September 08, 2015 6:20 AM  

#8. The German migration of the 1840s was the beginning of the end for the USA. And I say that as a German-American.

Blogger JACIII September 08, 2015 6:22 AM  

I get that the elites want a destabilized populace to compete with one another for diminishing wages. I don't get media types who are much closer to living the realities of this neighborly horde providing cover. Are they just that damned rock stupid, is it some weird mass rape fantasy, WTF?

Anonymous AusAutarch September 08, 2015 6:24 AM  

I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but I wonder what the effect of the prior two World Wars have had on the nature of European aggressiveness / mental toughness (as demonstrated by the social & political response to the "immigration" crisis) -
- between the effects of the the type of people who survived two wars (many of the "Brave"/aggressive types would have been more likely to have died in combat) and the progeny the survivors engendered
- the way that their national defence was (largely) handled by Americans, and thus there was no need to cultivate the "warrior mentality"
- the additional money freed up by not needing to fund their own army allowed them to "invest" additional funds in societal support projects which would both direct more funds to collectivist projects and enable more citizens to wallow in perceptions of inability rather than dealing with challenging circumstances constructively.

Blogger JACIII September 08, 2015 6:25 AM  

@15. +1.

The Germans, for all their talents, intelligence, and efficiency, are statists at heart.

Anonymous Mike M. September 08, 2015 6:35 AM  

What's the over/under on when things brew up? I'm betting on November of this year. There's a vibe to this I haven't felt since 1989 , when the Berlin Wall came down.

The European ruling class despises their citizens as much as the Dem ringleaders despise the average American, and a correction is overdue.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 6:42 AM  

Cataline Sergius, the South Africans already collapsed; their rulers betrayed them, as our are in an earlier stage of betraying us. Would you take them, if you could?

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 6:47 AM  

@2. #0006 Hammer: "I suspect soon many Europeans will develop an appreciation for why South Africa had a policy of apartheid, although none will admit it."

Apartheid is a terrible, bad, no good idea. We need our own countries, and we need to dig our own ditches.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 08, 2015 6:47 AM  

Well as soon as the smart people on our side realize that we are in a propaganda war, the losing side for now and then actually state the obvious fact that we are in a propaganda war the tides will turn.

But as of now our smart people for the most part are writing essays on synthesizing the great books as they relate to this invasion in an effort to appear to be smarter than the next conservative, in other words, the usual.

Blogger Wojciech Majda September 08, 2015 6:55 AM  

The Polish (Kamil Bulonis) guy who wrote this short report is gay left winger. His description from Facebook account:

"Bulonis Kamil Citizen Of The World - Journalist, Globetrotter, Deductionist, Gay.".

Not really the type that is usually against immigration...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 08, 2015 6:55 AM  

The tides will turn in this propaganda war because the SJW are weak rabbits ran by a few psychopathic cult leaders.

A SJW wants to be a blameless conduit for the talking points (feelgoodz). Well BLAME them (feelbadz).

The weak spot of the left's cults and the meta cult is the supporters themselves.

But conservatives write wonderful essays hoping against hope that logic and reason will prevail with these people, and on a more useful note appear smarter than the next conservative. And if you really work hard you get to graduate to the George Will professorship of elder statesman of writing the bad people out of conservative incorporated.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 7:06 AM  

@21. Whitey McWhite "Apartheid is a terrible, bad, no good idea. We need our own countries, and we need to dig our own ditches."

Agreed. That was the intent of Verwoerd and the apartheid policy. Separate homelands for the black tribes. Separate development, each in his own country (homeland). Trouble is those homelands never really developed (much like all other "free" African countries. The irony is that many blacks from these "free" African countries came to terrible apartheid South Africa to work). The mines and factories were also dependent on cheap black labour too. Money talks and South Africa was sold out.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 7:10 AM  

@21. Whitey McWhite "Apartheid is a terrible, bad, no good idea."

As a matter of interest why do you say apartheid was a bad idea. We agree on this but I our reasons may differ. I have found many people have a misconception of apartheid - thanks to the media being ethical and all that.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 08, 2015 7:17 AM  

@ #2 and #21: It's worth stating again why apartheid is a bad idea. Remember this formula:

Diversity + Proximity = Conflict

But wait: What about the diversity of the different European nationalities that comprised the waves of immigration into the U.S. in the late 19th and early 20th centuries? Weren't they all examples of diversity?

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 08, 2015 7:22 AM  

@20

(*pllllrrrrrrbbbbbhhhh!!!*)

They are here already.

If you live in any part of the US with a Dutch population, you will find butternut squash soup and lion hunting stories. And every damn one them says the same thing. They all came to the land of Levis and Taco Bells to get away from Apartheid or a conscription notice.

Anonymous Erik September 08, 2015 7:22 AM  

@19 Mike, my personal over/under wouldn't be until spring next year. Right now summer is mostly over and cold and bad weather are starting to make violent riots a poor prospect. Mass movements have their best chances when rain and snow aren't dissuading a lot of supporters from showing up in the first place - and that goes for firestarters on both sides.

OTOH, in the right combination of circumstances, I'm wondering if it could go off as early as Oktoberfest. Germans love their beer. Mohammedans ban alcohol consumption. Things are moving fast. If the right (wrong?) gang of drunken Germans meet the right wannabe Sharia enforcers, there might be blood.

Blogger JAY WILL September 08, 2015 7:25 AM  

Real men in these countries are not represented. You don't see them in films, in politics, their never interviewed. Part of the emasculation/feminization process is giving no voice or role model to them. This has to be a party deliberate plan by elites. "Men" tend to want to kick arse when they sense other men abuse their position. Those type of men threaten power blocks. Gays women children pacifists, these are the groups to be encouraged. They are not only not a threat but help to undermine those potentially threatening men by their presence. A skinny fat nappy changing dad is what they want, toothless men.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 7:30 AM  

I object to apartheid or anything like it on many grounds.

First, it's a catastrophe for whites, and second I'm against inter-racial relations of domination and subordination if whites are involved. (If no whites are involved, I'm white, so it's none of my business.)

The details of how it's a disaster for whites are mutually reinforcing. The destruction of family wages for the white working class, the crowding-out and suppression of white fertility, the downgrading of the dignity of work, the distortion of the naturally innovative character of a white economy by using cheap non-white labor to substitute for the technical innovation that is natural to whites, the distortion of law and culture due to unpleasant and unnatural codes to manage racial competition and conflict that should not exist, the inevitability of genetic damage, whites getting out-numbered in their own country and losing their own country, the potential for obvious non-whites to be used as weapons against real whites by clever non-whites who can pass for white -- it's all so bad that I see no point in assigning priorities to aspects of the total disaster.

"When your car crashes, rolls and burns, what is the biggest problem?" Answer: "it won't matter to you any longer what the biggest problem was."

European man cannot solve his problems this way.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 7:31 AM  

27. VFM bot #188 "@ #2 and #21: It's worth stating again why apartheid is a bad idea. Remember this formula:

Diversity + Proximity = Conflict"

Agreed. That formula is an all-encompassing summation of all the various reasons I could think of why apartheid was a bad idea.
OTOH, the only alternative to apartheid when the Nats came to power in 1948 would have been deportation and it surely would have been decried as worse than apartheid by the rest of the world.

Anonymous PA September 08, 2015 7:31 AM  

"Real men in these countries are not represented."

You feel an impact of this statement when you watch a YouTube video of a nationalist March in Sweden. An antifa spectator grabs a marcher's flag and instantly two nationalists risk past the police and pummel him.

The video belies the well cultivated faggot image of the Swedish male.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 7:33 AM  

And you, #0006 Hammer? Why do you think apartheid was bad? And do you also see it as a non-solution for white Europeans?

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 7:41 AM  

32. #0006 Hammer: "OTOH, the only alternative to apartheid when the Nats came to power in 1948 would have been deportation and it surely would have been decried as worse than apartheid by the rest of the world."

Anything that implies a chance of survival for whites will be condemned by our very good Middle Eastern friends who own Hollywood and the mass media. That cannot be our moral criterion.

Anonymous PA September 08, 2015 7:43 AM  

Here is the video from Sweden I spoke of above. (Should be "rush," not "risk" there.)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQvziO9mCg8

Blogger Daniel September 08, 2015 7:46 AM  

The only thing you get with Progress, Equality, Diversity, Opportunity advocates are PEDOs.

Blogger Sherwood family September 08, 2015 7:46 AM  

And yet, Whitey McWhite, while I agree with you on apartheid being a bad idea, once the demographic weight of non-Europeans within European countries reaches a certain level, apartheid would likely be the best case scenario. That is why the problem needs to be stopped before it passes certain numerical thresholds or there will be no way to solve the problem short of forced (and probably violent) deportation, war, or some other less pleasant combination.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 7:47 AM  

Thanks for the link.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 7:49 AM  

38. Sherwood family: "And yet, Whitey McWhite, while I agree with you on apartheid being a bad idea, once the demographic weight of non-Europeans within European countries reaches a certain level, apartheid would likely be the best case scenario."

I don't think slow(er) but sure death is much of a best case.

Anonymous Musashi #0350 September 08, 2015 7:54 AM  

Put them to the sword.

The invaders and their White facilitators who enable this.

Every one.

Blogger Sherwood family September 08, 2015 8:00 AM  

The other problem with moral criteria, when something like deportation or forced resettlement or other unpleasant but possibly necessary measures are considered in Europe or the U.S. is the problem I like to call the problem of "Not My Muhammad."

When I was a consular officer in Egypt this problem was acute. We would see starry-eyed women, smitten by a handsome young Egyptian man who would marry them in what was obviously a sham marriage for purposes of immigration from the Egyptian man's side of the equation. Over the course of a couple of years these women almost inevitably ended up in dire straits as a result of the marriage themselves (divorce, abandoned, children abducted, used up financially, etc.) that required significant effort on the part of U.S. taxpayer to alleviate.

But any time we would bring this up with the next crop of women lining up to enter into one of these marriages and get her fiance a visa they would always say something on the order of, "Well that may be true of 99% of the Egyptian population but that's Not My Muhammad." Of course, they were always the exception to the rule.

I fear that this same scenario, in different form would play out in any deportation scheme.

Something like, "Well, those other illegal immigrants may cause trouble but Not My Jose, he works hard and even though he is not technically legal he is a nice guy with a wife and kids." Not realizing that if everyone is an exception, no on is.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 8:01 AM  

41. Musashi #0350: "Put them to the sword."

Fine them. The traitors love money more than life, luxury more than posterity.

OpenID simplytimothy September 08, 2015 8:09 AM  

Any ideas on the propaganda on the other side? The side sending these invaders? Does it exist? If so, what does it promise?

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 September 08, 2015 8:25 AM  

The Balkans, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Chechnya, Aceh, Mindanao, Lebanon, Thailand, Afghanistan, Malaysia, etc etc etc

You judge them or they judge you.
Judge them for being wrong.
Truth isn't a democracy and doesn't bend to weight of opinion, faux consensus or cultural context.

Blogger njartist September 08, 2015 8:27 AM  

15. The German migration of the 1840s was the beginning of the end for the USA. And I say that as a German-American.

No, it was the Great Potato famine of Ireland which drove all them papists to the United States. That " was the beginning of the end for the USA."

See, I too can write silliness.
There was a large German population in the colonies before the founding of the nation: there was even a question as to whether the new nation would speak English or if it would speak German.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 8:29 AM  

31. Whitey McWhite "I object to apartheid or anything like it on many grounds.

First, it's a catastrophe for whites, and second I'm against inter-racial relations of domination and subordination if whites are involved.."

"...inter-racial relations of domination and subordination...". Well at least you don't characterize white South Africans, particularly Afrikaners as Nazi's, as the media is wont to do.
To expand on my earlier statement, Verwoerd's idea was for separate but equal development. There wouldn't be domination of blacks by whites in their homelands.
That being said there was "domination" of blacks within the borders of South Africa.
Examples: They could not vote, but if they could we would've had the disastrous ANC government a lot sooner. They were not allowed to be in certain areas (white areas) after a certain time of the evening, now they can and apart from my day-job I have to do patrols at night to ensure members of our community don't become statistics in the rampant murder and rape plague that has hit SA since 1994.

Save for the above I agree with the reasons you gave, all of which can be traced back to the Diversity + Proximity formula.

"And you, #0006 Hammer? Why do you think apartheid was bad? And do you also see it as a non-solution for white Europeans?"
Yes. Deport non-Europeans.
To be honest, my attitude used to be "well, fuck the Europeans and Americans, let them have some diversity which they propagated for South Africa". But not anymore. As I got older I realised that the citizens of those countries were also misled by the media and their leaders, I can see the same being done to them that was done to white South Africans, so now I fully support them.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 08, 2015 8:33 AM  

I believe Europe will awaken and fight back. I believe Europe will win. Even if the tree is withered, the roots of Christendom run deep in Europe.

I do know, if I was a Turk, born in Germany, I would be one of loudest voices demanding that these so called refugees be deported, at bayonet point if needed.

The United States, I'm not sure will survive intact. We drank the multi-culti Kool-Aid even before we were an independent country.

Out Christian heritage, despite some very gifted pastors, is shallow and divided against itself as can be seen repeatedly on this very blog.

Anonymous A. Nonymous September 08, 2015 8:48 AM  

(many of the "Brave"/aggressive types would have been more likely to have died in combat)

This idea gets pushed a lot, but never with any supporting evidence so far as I've seen.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 8:59 AM  

47. #0006 Hammer: "...inter-racial relations of domination and subordination...". Well at least you don't characterize white South Africans, particularly Afrikaners as Nazi's, as the media is wont to do."

Of course I don't.

I understand that if you have to chose between dominating or being a victim, well, collective self-preservation dictates the first course. But that means the situation is already bad, and taking the non-suicidal option doesn't make the situation not-bad.

Anyway, I agree with what you said.

It's hard to argue with the Diversity + Proximity formula. And I would add: covert diversity plus proximity equals covert war.

Blogger njartist September 08, 2015 9:01 AM  

49. A. Nonymous September 08, 2015 8:48 AM
(many of the "Brave"/aggressive types would have been more likely to have died in combat)
This idea gets pushed a lot, but never with any supporting evidence so far as I've seen.


Oh, I don't know, when one pauses to think about it: when an elite sends the able bodied population of its underclass off to war it does two things: first, it removes the elite's competition; second, it depletes the genetic and spiritual inheritance of that underclass.

The complaint of having lost the best and brightest of both Europe and the United States from two world wars used to be heard frequently among the artist classes. But I guess that you've never seen any supporting evidence for that either.

Anonymous p-dawg September 08, 2015 9:03 AM  

@44 Here's an example: Link

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 9:16 AM  

@42. Sherwood family: "...Not My Muhammad."

You're right. That's a big problem, and it's going to be a bigger one.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 9:18 AM  

48. ZhukovG: "I believe Europe will awaken and fight back. I believe Europe will win."

I hope so too.

But who do you think is Europe?

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 08, 2015 9:25 AM  

@#47 Hammer: You are a white living in South Africa now?

Blogger Jester September 08, 2015 9:25 AM  

Oh, I don't know, when one pauses to think about it: when an elite sends the able bodied population of its underclass off to war it does two things: first, it removes the elite's competition; second, it depletes the genetic and spiritual inheritance of that underclass.

That's the assumption, but after all, it's not quite the same thing as the NKVD deliberately rounding up all the Polish cognitive elites they could find and them methodically shooting them in the back of the head, is it.

What always comes to mind is S.L.A. Marshall's contention that the vast majority of soldiers never fired their weapons in combat; i.e. it sounds plausible on the surface, but might prove otherwise upon closer examination.

Blogger James Jones September 08, 2015 9:27 AM  

This is the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan in action. This is POLICY, to flood Europe with Africans and Middle Easterners and destroy any form of nationalism with this great melting pot who care nothing for history or European cultural identity. That's how Coudenhove-Kalergi realised we could have a European Superstate.

If you did not vote UKIP in the last election, you will be getting what you deserve. Forget silly petitions.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 08, 2015 9:36 AM  

@54. Whitey McWhite

I use 'Europe' for simplicity. But specifically, Germans must defend Germany. The French, must defend France. Italians, needs to figure out what Italy is, and then defend that. The United Kingdom, likewise, must decide what it is and then defend it.

But the EU needs to be disbanded and it's leaders, for the most part, jailed.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 9:39 AM  

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Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 9:39 AM  

@55. VFM bot #188 "@#47 Hammer: You are a white living in South Africa now?"
Yes.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 9:46 AM  

@58. ZhukovG, OK; that's a clear answer.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 September 08, 2015 9:51 AM  

@27 there was plenty of conflict among those European immigrant groups. Some vestiges remain today. Additionally, there was a dominant WASP culture at the time and a degree of assimilation was demanded. Today, not so much, plus the current crop of invaders is less capable of assimilation and less willing to assimilate than prior immigrant groups.

Roissy asked for a name for the coming global conflagration: I told him the "diversity wars" fits the bill nicely. It uses the left's shibboleth against it and has the added bonus of aptly describing both the intra-national and international aspects of the conflict.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 08, 2015 9:51 AM  

@#60 Hammer: I'm kind of interested in hearing what it's like over there now. Doesn't sound good for whites now. Sounds untenable, in fact, from what I read.

Anonymous Sheila September 08, 2015 9:55 AM  

@8 Cataline Sergius - do you (or others) attribute that to the selective weeding out of more militant types, as #17 suggested, or do you attribute it to a relentless, 70 year old media campaign plus American occupation and pressure? Most of the male Germans I've known (limited to diplomats,embassy guards, and Fulbright scholars) did not seem in any way feminized, but half the women have been warm and friendly, and half extraordinarily hostile and militantly anti-White (very close to Tom Kratman's Gabrielle in "Caliphate"). Surely there's some residual pride in their civilization and history? Or has the relentless holocaust industry just ground that to dust?

@42 Sherwood family - My experience exactly, whether as a consular officer in Jamaica, or dealing with White Christians in Texas. Everyone's a special snowflake, noticing patterns is racist, and playing the odds by assuming someone racially different is logically culturally different is mere ignorant prejudice.

Anonymous The other robot September 08, 2015 10:20 AM  

But the EU needs to be disbanded and it's leaders, for the most part, jailed.

Perhaps nailed up to a cross is more appropriate. It's what the Romans did.

Blogger David-093 September 08, 2015 10:21 AM  

"How many native girls have to be raped before anybody does anything?"

As long as it's not their child? All of them. And even then they wouldn't, because post-Christian Western man won't act to save his country until he's forced to by having no other choice and nothing to lose.

Blogger sysadmn September 08, 2015 10:21 AM  

you are asked to refrain from "direct eye contact, ogling, or photographing. Derogatory or racist remarks can not be tolerated in any way."

Well, citizens are asked to refrain. Invaders' transgressions are ignored.

Anonymous The other robot September 08, 2015 10:25 AM  

Kill a few now or kill them all later: choose.

Actually, if you do not kill a few now you might not get the choice to kill them all later. Especially when they are doing the jobs Americans don't want to do.

Anonymous Eric the Red September 08, 2015 10:35 AM  

@47 @60

Hammer, I have seen suggestions on other sites that white South Africans voluntarily self-segregate around a coastal area/city and create a new city-state of whites only. That would reinvigorate the creative energy of the SA whites and also give them a far greater degree of safety and security than they have now.

Any comments to this kind of plan? Is it feasible, what kind of logistics would it take, etc., etc. ?

Anonymous Hugh September 08, 2015 10:38 AM  

I support the admittance of MORE refugees. For two reasons:



1. It is the RIGHT THING TO DO. There is a crisis, people are dying, we can help, it is our bloody duty to do so. Not to mention, if the shoe was on the other foot and I lived in a wartorn land, fleeing for my life with my family, I would hope someone somewhere would open their country to my family. Treat others like you want to be treated yourself and don't be a complete arse to other people. In other words: basic bloody human decency.



2. Demography and future taxation. Demographically, Sweden is really well off, partially due to immigration. Only people who cannot actually do very simple mathematics or statistics think immigrants will "destroy our country". It's the opposite. Look at Italy's replacement rate for instance. What will that mean in 100 years for their taxable population? We need immigrants to top up our dwindling populations.

Blogger JWM September 08, 2015 10:41 AM  

This mess will come to our shores here in the USA. The preznit is a lame duck with nothing to lose politically by importing them here by the millions. Just wait. I expect an executive order to establish some "compassionate measures" to deal with the crisis any day now.

JWM

Anonymous The other robot September 08, 2015 10:42 AM  

Stupid Troll Hugh said:

We need immigrants to top up our dwindling populations.

Encourage native populations to have children. Encourage women in first-world countries to have children.

Also, fuck off.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 08, 2015 10:54 AM  

@70 Hugh

1) Our duty is to protect our nation and our children. Part of the reason why we are not living in a war torn hell hole is because for most of our history we were one nation. When you import those refugees from those war torn areas they bring their problems with them. Import enough of them and you turn your nation into the same war torn hell hole those refugees escaped from. Look at the suburbs of Paris, hell holes.

2) The "Oh Noes We are dying out" is a ridiculous argument for Europeans. You brought up Italy. How many Italians are there alive in Italy (the only place Italians belong, we need to remove them from the US) today? Roughly 55 million, by most estimates. How many Italians were there in 1951? In 1931? In 1921? There are more Italians alive today than there were in 1961. Were those 1961 Italians facing catastrophe? The 42 million Italians in 1935 didn't seem to have any problems in invading several other nations. How did they make it without hordes of 3rd world savages enriching their population and providing a tax base?

Anonymous dudemanhey September 08, 2015 10:55 AM  

@16 I get that the elites want a destabilized populace to compete with one another for diminishing wages. I don't get media types who are much closer to living the realities of this neighborly horde providing cover. Are they just that damned rock stupid, is it some weird mass rape fantasy, WTF?"

These are the exact questions mewling in my head.

At first blush, it's easy to say that the masses are just rock stupid - and there is some truth to that. But i know too many reasonably high IQ people that are apparently just as duped as the morons.

So let us not forget the immense conditioning that (even) the (high IQ) masses are subjected to through the media & schools. Nor the horrible advice that infected parents, grandparents & churches have been filling the heads of our nation's youth with for how many generations now?

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 10:55 AM  

63. VFM bot #188 "@#60 Hammer: I'm kind of interested in hearing what it's like over there now. Doesn't sound good for whites now. Sounds untenable, in fact, from what I read..."
I'll try keep it brief:
In general I'd say it's probably much as in some "diversity stricken" US cities (I assume you are American). There are "pockets" which are safe, in fact quite pleasant (the suburbs basically). There are some business districts which are very pleasant eg Sandton. But the Johannesburg city center is a shithole. Cape Town City center on the other hand is (the last I checked) pretty safe and clean. (Many people ascribe this to the fact that the DA is ruling the Western Cape and the ANC rules Gauteng. I disagree, the reason is demographics).

I think one of the big differences is the crime, the nature and frequency thereof.
As an example, and I'm speaking here from my own experience, I'm not referring to specific stats, we had about seventeen house robberies in 2 months in our area (about 160 houses in the area we are living). We have since started a neighbourhood watch and it has dropped to 4 attempts in the last 5 months (we even caught two, one who has been sought by the police for several murders and robberies). As for the nature of the crimes they are violent, house robberies often include rape and murder. So I think the difference lies therein that whereas Americans are mostly safe in the homes in the suburbs, we are not (our kids cannot for example ride their bicycles in the street or walk to a cafe).
Then we have the incompetence of the police force, electricity provider (with frequent "blackouts", euphemistically called load shedding), and in general a failing infrastructure.

If you want more particulars I could give you a gmail address.

Anonymous Big Bill September 08, 2015 10:56 AM  

Rather than fight the leftists, a right - thinking German politician should co-opt them. Announce a plan to organize all male Muslim refugees from Syria into a giant Muslim International Army to retake their homeland from ISIS. Put them in barracks and boot camps. Announce that you are going to train them and send them back to "liberate their beloved homeland from Evil ISIS." Muslim men would immediately stop flooding into Germany if they faced boot camp instead of all the white women they could rape. Set up enclaves in Syrian "safe zones" to which the women and children could be moved to dig up the Syrian rubble like the German "Trummerfrauen" (rubble women) did after WWII.

Blogger tweell September 08, 2015 11:03 AM  

Don't expect to come to the USA, if we manage to deal with our own invasion and our current elites, Europeans.

I quote from Caliphate by Col. Kratman:

"We still take some immigrants from Old Europe," the consular explained. "But we don't really need them. We get plenty of high quality applicants from Latin America, India, Japan, China, Vietnam . . . all over. We not only don't need Europeans anymore, we don't really want them.
"I'm sorry to have to say it this way but . . . you're diseased, you see . . . politically diseased. You're in the process of losing your own homeland. You brought it on yourselves and it's become irreversible now. So ask yourself: Why should we accept into our country people with a history of destroying the country they live in?
"You're diseased, Ms. von Minden, and you're contagious. We had a long bout with the disease that's afflicted Europe, and it killed millions of us. Why should we allow any more contamination?"

Anonymous Donn #0114 September 08, 2015 11:04 AM  

PA @36 I think he should have gone about it differently. The first guy should have tackled him a little lower to slam his back and head into the building and the second one should have shifted his body weight as he swung those hay makers instead of just using his arm and shoulder. Just kidding they did good.

Otherwise they did a great job. That's how you deal with violent (taking something that someone is holding is a felony where I live) thugs and counter protestors. Show them that you will not be bullied or intimidated. Let them get away with it and they'll break up every march you put on. Hit them ten times as hard as they hit you.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 08, 2015 11:07 AM  

If you want more particulars I could give you a gmail address.

Do so. I might like to visit the country sometime. (Yeah, I'm an American.)

Blogger Bies Podkrakowski September 08, 2015 11:08 AM  

"I support the admittance of MORE refugees."

OK, do it in your own country and let us commit our own mistakes. Presently Germany is sucking migrants from all over the world and feels very good about itself. But for some strange reason it also wants to force CE countries to take a few thousands now and many more in the future. Keep your migrants and feelgoods to yourselves and let us be xenophobes. Isn't this what EU is about? People with true diversity of values, all living together in our common European house?

Blogger beerme #0183 September 08, 2015 11:08 AM  

They've done alright by use in the past.
Over 200,000 fought for the Union, that isn't doing alright by us.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 11:10 AM  

@69. Eric the Red "Hammer, I have seen suggestions on other sites that white South Africans voluntarily self-segregate around a coastal area/city and create a new city-state of whites only..."
It sounds like a great idea in theory. I'm not sure whether it will be feasible in the long run though. There are such areas (at least two I know of), very small. The main obstacle is that they are still part of South Africa, and at some point, if they become successful someone will cry racist and demand integration (in fact I recall someone already making such noises regarding Orania. I don't have particulars, I think I saw something on twitter, I don't listen to, watch or read mainstream media). There are off course a myriad of other obstacles to overcome, eg work opportunities and probably convincing people to move.
It's like 66. David-093 said above "How many native girls have to be raped before anybody does anything?" - As long as it's not their child? All of them".
There appears to be a general apathy among people. It's almost as if they are just locking their doors at night, go to sleep and just hope and pray they are not next. Perhaps they believe things will magically improve by itself.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 11:13 AM  

79. VFM bot #188 "If you want more particulars I could give you a gmail address.

Do so. I might like to visit the country sometime. (Yeah, I'm an American.)"

Be sure to contact me if you do visit.
Here is my email: hansolo865@gmail.com

Blogger VD September 08, 2015 11:25 AM  


1. It is the RIGHT THING TO DO. There is a crisis, people are dying, we can help, it is our bloody duty to do so.


No, it's not.

We need immigrants to top up our dwindling populations.

The populations aren't dwindling. Birth rate is not population and birth rates are subject to rapid change.

The blood of all those refugees you are welcoming, and their children, will be on your hands. They should not be there and they will not remain there long. I hear how the teenagers talk about the situation among themselves. I suspect they'll make the Nazis look soft.

Blogger VD September 08, 2015 11:42 AM  

It's also worth mentioning that 39 percent of those "refugees" ARE FROM EUROPE. They're not fleeing anything except their own people.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 08, 2015 11:43 AM  

@29 Erik
OTOH, in the right combination of circumstances, I'm wondering if it could go off as early as Oktoberfest. Germans love their beer. Mohammedans ban alcohol consumption. Things are moving fast. If the right (wrong?) gang of drunken Germans meet the right wannabe Sharia enforcers, there might be blood
----

There is a feeling that if just one group of European or American stands up to this immigration crap, it might spark a fire to light all the other countries into action.

Anonymous Nxx September 08, 2015 11:45 AM  

1. It is the RIGHT THING TO DO.

Fact 1: Sweden is number one in Europe for immigration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden

Fact 2: Sweden is number two in the world for rape and sexual violence per capita.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-5-countries-highest-rates-rape-1434355

Fact 3: Almost half (38%) of Swedish women now live in fear of leaving their homes.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/when-it-comes-to-rapes-islamized-sweden-is-already-in-a-state-of-war

Fact 4: The Swedish goverment is confronting the problem by criminalizing criticism of immigration and its consequences.
http://www.vdare.com/posts/swedish-judge-on-criticism-of-muslim-rape-wave-whether-or-not-a-pronouncement-is-true-has-no-bearing-on-the-case

Yes! More immigrants is THE RIGHT THING TO DO! Let's not forget to persecute those who disagree because THAT'S EVEN MORE RIGHT AND GOOD! When half your women live inside a permanent nightmare that's FUCKING AWESOME!

Anonymous Hugh September 08, 2015 12:01 PM  

there is no rape crisis in Sweden

that is myth perpuated by racists

Sweden has very lax rape laws meaning that consensual sex can be seen as rape if the girl is jealous or something

Anonymous patrick kelly September 08, 2015 12:05 PM  

@70 STH: "We need immigrants to top up our dwindling populations."

No, they will be topping their population, and yours will not longer exist, neither will your nation.

Blogger skiballa September 08, 2015 12:13 PM  

"I suspect they'll make the Nazis look soft."

I see shades of this with my children's generation as well, and I'm in New England.

Blogger Sjonnar September 08, 2015 12:15 PM  

@88 Hugh, you state that "There is no rape crisis in Sweden." and that "That is a myth perpetuated by racists."

Post evidence to back up both statements. Oh, and link to the relevant Swedish rape statutes as well.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 08, 2015 12:16 PM  

The Germans, for all their talents, intelligence, and efficiency, are statists at heart.

Or perhaps the fraction of the German gene pool that wasn't statist at heart already immigrated to America hundreds of years ago, leaving their statist cousins behind. I have a theory that one reason the European ruling class failed so badly in the 19th and 20th centuries was because too much of the cream of the yeomanry had been siphoned off by America and there wasn't enough talent left to fortify the ranks of the nobility via promotions.

Which of course is a similar theory to the "lost the best and brightest in war" that njartist and AusAutarch brought up. The thing is, I don't think the losses need to be extensive in order to have an impact. A lot of life is determined at the margins. Lose a Nelson here and a Churchill there and where are you when the darkest hour comes?

Anonymous Jack Amok September 08, 2015 12:20 PM  

OTOH, the only alternative to apartheid when the Nats came to power in 1948 would have been deportation and it surely would have been decried as worse than apartheid by the rest of the world.

True, but it at least would have solved the problem. What happened instead only kicked the can down the road, and SA ended up officially vilified anyway. Possibly you could forgive South Africans of that time for thinking apartheid might work, like you might forgive the first Keynesians for thinking that would work. But today there should be no excuse for either, as there's too much evidence to the contrary.

Blogger skiballa September 08, 2015 12:23 PM  

@ Jack Amok

I had a similar thought about Scotland, they are very much statists these days, but historically, they had a much different reputation, look at their history in America. All that stood up for themselves were killed or shipped out, and that's what you end up with.

Blogger Danby September 08, 2015 12:24 PM  

@Hugh
Shut up Tad.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 12:28 PM  

93. Jack Amok September "True, but it at least would have solved the problem. What happened instead only kicked the can down the road, and SA ended up officially vilified anyway."

I agree 100%.

Anonymous Curious September 08, 2015 12:31 PM  

Fact 3: Almost half (38%) of Swedish women now live in fear of leaving their homes.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/when-it-comes-to-rapes-islamized-sweden-is-already-in-a-state-of-war


This is how to solve the problem.

When women feel there is a problem, men will kill to solve the problem.

Anonymous Curious September 08, 2015 12:31 PM  

Fact 3: Almost half (38%) of Swedish women now live in fear of leaving their homes.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/when-it-comes-to-rapes-islamized-sweden-is-already-in-a-state-of-war


This is how to solve the problem.

When women feel there is a problem, men will kill to solve the problem.

Blogger Joshua Dyal September 08, 2015 12:32 PM  

No, it was the Great Potato famine of Ireland which drove all them papists to the United States. That " was the beginning of the end for the USA."

See, I too can write silliness.
There was a large German population in the colonies before the founding of the nation: there was even a question as to whether the new nation would speak English or if it would speak German.


The first part of your quote isn't the silliness, the second part is. Do some basic research before you pop off an urban myth as if it were a fact.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 08, 2015 12:40 PM  

#0006 Hammer: long life, good health and good fortune to you and yours. May your generations never run out.

Anonymous GracieLou September 08, 2015 12:40 PM  

My first husband's family were fairly recent immigrants from Denmark and Norway. Very controlled and conflict avoidant people, but holy hell when they lost their sh*t!

Example, former husband was big, as Vikings tend to be, so people wanted to see him fight, which meant several patsies ended up beat down. He found this distasteful but for several years afterward enjoyed general peace and tranquility until the last year of HS when a big dumb farm boy began trying his patience. Pick, pick, pick, tic, tic, tic...then one fine morning he told his mother she'd be getting a phone call. He drove to school, sat through class, chatted with friends, strolled into the cafeteria, picked up a tray, casually, silently walked over to farm boy and proceeded to bust his skull. The scene was apparently so psychotic and apoplectic that thereafter his name was only mentioned in hushed tones.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling September 08, 2015 12:53 PM  

What always comes to mind is S.L.A. Marshall's contention that the vast majority of soldiers never fired their weapons in combat; i.e. it sounds plausible on the surface, but might prove otherwise upon closer examination.

"Closer examination" revealed he was a fraud, he never collected the data he claimed to have when he wrote that up. See also Hackworth's About Face for an eyewitness account of how fraudulent in general he was by Vietnam.

Blogger Unknown September 08, 2015 12:55 PM  

If the West wants more children for demographic and tax purposes:

1. We can accept more immigrants.
2. We can improve the tax code and take other action to encourage child-bearing.
3. Some combination of 1 and 2.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 08, 2015 12:56 PM  

99. Whitey McWhite "#0006 Hammer: long life, good health and good fortune to you and yours. May your generations never run out."

Thank you Sir, same to you and yours.

Anonymous Curious September 08, 2015 1:02 PM  

1. We can accept more immigrants.
2. We can improve the tax code and take other action to encourage child-bearing.


Those businesses that depend on warm bodies will always insist that the native population is incapable of breeding more customers.

Anonymous Nxx September 08, 2015 1:14 PM  

there is no rape crisis in Sweden

that is myth perpuated by racists


Yea all those women lying about being raped when in fact they're just selfish bitches that need to learn to share. Time to check that vaginal privilege.

Complaining about mass muslim rape is intolerant toward muslims. We have a religious duty to insure that the whiny bitches and their free speech is sacrificed to prevent the Evil God Adolf Hitler from arising and blotting out the sun.

Anonymous Bz September 08, 2015 1:24 PM  


I support the admittance of MORE refugees. For two reasons:

1. It is the RIGHT THING TO DO. There is a crisis, people are dying, we can help, it is our bloody duty to do so. Not to mention, if the shoe was on the other foot and I lived in a wartorn land, fleeing for my life with my family, I would hope someone somewhere would open their country to my family. Treat others like you want to be treated yourself and don't be a complete arse to other people. In other words: basic bloody human decency.

2. Demography and future taxation. Demographically, Sweden is really well off, partially due to immigration. Only people who cannot actually do very simple mathematics or statistics think immigrants will "destroy our country". It's the opposite. Look at Italy's replacement rate for instance. What will that mean in 100 years for their taxable population? We need immigrants to top up our dwindling populations.


Thank you Hugh for stating two common pro-mass immigration positions.

Regarding point 1: A large part of the current migrant flow does not hail from conflict areas and are not fleeing a conflict. They are to a great extent young men, those who would form the armies, rather than women, children or the elderly, those who might be victims. Furthermore, the EU Dublin Agreement states that a refugee has no right to transit onward from the country of entrance to some other country of choice. This seems to be universally disregarded, even more so in the current media hysteria. In short, the migrants are just taking advantage of the open doors, while a group of people are holding the doors open. Trojan horse, if you will.

Regarding point 2: Note that the immigrants to Sweden have very low human capital compared to ethnic Swedes. Very few have university degrees or something equivalent to high school. Immigrants furthermore are out of jobs for years or permanently, leading to worsening conditions regarding state finances. Finally, they often have a much worse criminal profile than the ethnic population, leading to further permanent costs and suffering. It's not people recruited for high-paid work coming, it's people pretending to be homeless and looking for a handout. The monetary flows will therefore be towards the migrants, not from them: an increased cost for the current tax payers.

Hence, the case for massive third world immigration is very weak, without even referring to cultural or replacement issues (quite valid in my opinion) but just the technocratic ones. For some reason, Swedes and others are currently handing out their patrimony and building up big future problems. But as we know, something that can't go on indefinitely will stop.

Blogger Marissa September 08, 2015 1:32 PM  

The West doesn't need to accept immigrants for demographic purposes because by the 2nd and 3rd generations, the children of these immigrants are having children at the same rate as the natives. More emphasis should be placed on affordable family formation a la Steve Sailer.

Blogger Curtis September 08, 2015 1:43 PM  

Were Assad foolish enough to challenge these zones, even if he somehow forced the withdrawal of the outside special forces, he would be likely to lose his air power in ensuing retaliatory strikes by outside forces, depriving his military of one of its few advantages over ISIL. Thus, he would be unlikely to do this.

Deconstructing Syria - http://www.activistpost.com/2015/09/us-seeks-occupation-as-us-fighters-flood-syria.html

US/NATO has no intention of wiping out CIA-ISIS. CIA-ISIS is US/NATO's proxy army. Everything else you hear about CIA-ISIS from US/NATO and the Lame Stream Media is disinformation to disavow any relation to ISIS, while behind the scenes of that disavow, using them to destabilize Syria and the ultimate fall of Assad. Seriously, how many times does US/NATO have to spit in your face?

With Europeans intentionally put into a state of fear at home and in hopes of eliciting support for wars abroad NATO appears to now be undulating Europe with a tidal wave or refugees intentionally accumulated and cared for in Turkey either to flood back into NATO-established safe zones in Syria or into Europe to extort from the public backing for further military aggression.

Engineered Refugee Crisis to Justify “Safe Havens” in Syria - http://www.activistpost.com/2015/09/engineered-refugee-crisis-to-justify-safe-havens-in-syria.html

Well of course. Because, you know, Assad is an impediment to PEACE. It's all Assad's fault! Bad Assad! All this would not be happening if it wasn't for Assad. The refugees are all Assad's fault. CIA-ISIS is all Assad's fault. Why, if Assad would just stop trying to defeat CIA-ISIS and go somewhere to die, this would all go away.

Uh-oh! The Russians are in Syria! How dare they fight CIA-ISIS and defend Assad's Syria from them! Fighting CIA-ISIS is an impediment to PEACE!

First picture 'proof' that Russia has troops on the ground all over Syria helping dictator Bashar Al-Assad - and they've been there since APRIL - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3226009/First-picture-proof-Russia-troops-ground-Syria-helping-dictator-Bashar-Al-Assad-ve-APRIL.html

Those poor refugees!

Muslim Refugees Chant “Allahu Akbar,” “F**k You,” Attack Citizens, Throw Feces - http://www.infowars.com/muslim-refugees-chant-allahu-akbar-fk-you-attack-citizens-throw-feces/

See? If it wasn't for Assad, these refugees wouldn't be attacking the EU! We have to do something about Assad! If only Assad would be captured by CIA-ISIS and have his head chopped off, then this would all go away.

We must attack Syria!

OpenID corvinus333 September 08, 2015 1:49 PM  

I do know, if I was a Turk, born in Germany, I would be one of loudest voices demanding that these so called refugees be deported, at bayonet point if needed.

@48 ZhukovG
Tommy Hass to the courtesy phone...

It's also worth mentioning that 39 percent of those "refugees" ARE FROM EUROPE. They're not fleeing anything except their own people.

@85 VD
Heck, even the spineless EU is going to grant Germany the right to deport countries that aren't deemed to be warzones, which would include Kosovo and Albania. That would get rid of what, 320,000 of these "refugees"? Or, rather, horny young men?

And this is getting ridiculous. Albania has exported a huge number of people already; their last census in 2011 found a population of 2.8 million, down from 3.3 million in 1990. Subtracting the Christians, and only counting Muslims and the irreligious, it's 2.4 million. Kosovo had 1.7 million people in 2011, excluding Serb-controlled North Kosovo.

So, 320,000 of these "refugees" come from a population of a mere 4 million people.

And if, say, 300,000 of them are young men, that means a whole lot of lonely girls in Albania and Kosovo right now.

...Hey, I'm just a VFM. Give me a break.

Blogger Curtis September 08, 2015 1:52 PM  

P.S. When Assad is gone, CIA-ISIS will turn into SJW's.

Anonymous The Original Hermit September 08, 2015 1:53 PM  

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/hAj0gCT

More than a few comments detailing complete and utter ingratitude of these savages.

Anonymous Discard September 08, 2015 1:59 PM  

102. Unknown: Why do we need 300 million people? The U.S. was a better place in 1950 with half that many. Japan is letting their numbers decrease, and it's a good thing too. Letting your population approach your land's carrying capacity spells disaster when something you've been counting on, like rain or endless credit, doesn't happen.

Anonymous Mike M. September 08, 2015 2:01 PM  

@94 skiballa:

I read a book on Scottish history in which the author stated that an American visiting that country would be disappointed. The land was there...but the Scots were gone. They left for the U.S.

Anonymous Donn #0114 September 08, 2015 2:07 PM  

Clinton screwed Europe when he sided with the Muslim gangsters over the Christians. But SJWs always lie, always double down. Now they are engaged in further lies and further rhetoric. Look at the pictures of the dead boy. His parents and the human smugglers are to blame not Italy or Greece.

Anonymous Discard September 08, 2015 2:12 PM  

65. The other robot: Crucifixion is literally too good for the EU's leaders. They don't deserve the honor. Having their colons packed with cement and being chained to a fence to wait for death is much more fitting.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 08, 2015 2:12 PM  

@64
@Shiela

Good questions.

My opinion is that when history books are written in two hundred years, (*assuming our decedents aren't squatting around camp fires in the ruins of our cities*) WWII will be viewed as the third act of a 125 year German Unification War.

I think the big thing to remember is that there is more than one kind of German. Germany is an artificial construct created in the 19th century. To give you a vastly over simplified answer the driving force behind this unification was the Junker's class of Prussia.

And Prussia has been largely obliterated as a culture.

Blogger Danby September 08, 2015 2:13 PM  

First picture 'proof' that Russia has troops on the ground all over Syria helping dictator Bashar Al-Assad - and they've been there since APRIL

lol
pictures of white guys in front of pictures of Assad or a Syrian flag = PROOOOOOF THE RUSSKIES ARE IN SYRIA!!

A RUSSIAN NAVY SHIP docked at the Russian Naval repair facility in TATARUS, on the Mediterranean.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

Anonymous Donn #0114 September 08, 2015 2:22 PM  

When Clinton bombed Europe, the Russians were reeling from their break up and the Chicoms were in an entirely different position. Now I don't think Putin will take Obama bombing any client lying down and it is clear nationalism (a good thing) is on the rise all through Europe.

The 'refugees' will be pawns. Nothing more or less.

Anonymous Discard September 08, 2015 2:28 PM  

42. Sherwood Family. Regarding the matter of White women and their Moslem husbands: There is a small literary genre of "I Married a Raghead and My Life Turned to Shit". The lucky ones are those who are abandoned once Ahmed gets his green card. The unlucky ones find themselves living in Turbanistan. But I suppose you know this already.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 08, 2015 3:18 PM  

Bad news compared to Afrikaaners we American men are pussies, good news the SJW are complete utterly useless in a fight.

If we could only capture the moral level of war we would roll right over the progressive authoritarians

Anonymous BigGaySteve September 08, 2015 3:19 PM  

Finish prime minister is open for more refugees thanks to his refugee boytoy.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6873-refugee-boy-sets-immigration-debate-alight-in-finland

Anonymous Jim Milo September 08, 2015 3:27 PM  

@15 @46

You mispelled Irish Genocide perpetrated by those black horse Protestants in England.

As for me, I was ethically cleansed by the SJW government of Quebec in the 70's and exiled to Toronto. Where's my check?

Blogger Floyd Looney September 08, 2015 3:34 PM  

Invasion by barbarian hordes.. sounds familiar

Anonymous Musashi #0350 September 08, 2015 3:42 PM  

Conversation, reason, excuses, blame, pity, etc.

None of these matter.

This issue gets settled with steel. Probably fairly soon.

Anonymous Jim Milo September 08, 2015 4:01 PM  

Yes, the younger generation is more hardline, and I've noticed it too. The future of rebellion doesn't wear a Guy Fawkes mask, but a Mac Tonight one.

Anonymous BigGaySteve September 08, 2015 4:12 PM  

Not really the type that is usually against immigration

Gaypatriot.net the most recent article is about moslem immigration. The paid Soros cheerleaders always are the loudest. Usually its a jewish lesbian gatekeeper that pushes for banning gays that speak of moslem treatment of gays.

Especially when they are doing the jobs Americans don't want to do.

You mean Hispanics killing blacks for us?

Only people who cannot actually do very simple mathematics or statistics think immigrants will "destroy our country".

Only people who think evolution stopped at the neck believe blacks born in rice paddies would be smart and peaceful.

So when the Germans abandon Germany, do we let them in here?

Yes but all the jewish politicians must stay in Germany.

@88 Hugh, you state that "There is no rape crisis in Sweden." and that "That is a myth perpetuated by racists."

Watch the you tube documentary "the dancing boys of Afghanistan" to see moslem morals. You wont like it because the pixilize the peeners.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 08, 2015 4:40 PM  

Meanwhile, courtesy of Anonymous Conservative,

Trump is killing the polls even as the machine tries vainly to tear at him.

Details:
* The only age group Clinton wins is the 18-34 bracket, 50-31. Trump wins the 35-49 group by 47-35; 50-64 by 50-35; and 65+ by 55-37. Guess which age groups vote the most in elections? The 50-65+ brackets.

* Trump wins the white vote by 51-34 and gets an encouraging 25% of the black vote. Hillary wins the Hispanic vote 50-31.

* Among those paying “a lot” of attention to politics, Trump is beating Clinton 54-36. Clinton wins among Low Information Voters by 43-34.


"If you're stupid and you know it, vote Hillary". Oh, and "hispanic" turnout is notorious for being low.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 08, 2015 4:46 PM  


And Prussia has been largely obliterated as a culture.


The Soviets were very, very deliberate about that. Look carefully at a map of what used to be East Prussia, now mostly Poland, and you will see an odd speck of Russian territory wedged in there. The Sovs made very sure to not only obliterate the Prussians as a culture, but to maintain an outpost independent of the Warsaw Pact in East Prussia as well.

That said, I dunno about German reunification beyond what's already occurred, there's no "Germans" left in any other parts of Europe to unify with so far as I can tell.

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 08, 2015 4:52 PM  

@15 #8. The German migration of the 1840s was the beginning of the end for the USA.

Whereas the Germanic migration of the 1000's was the beginning of England.

Anonymous Daniel H September 08, 2015 4:53 PM  

@ 117

I think it a good thing that the Russians are in Syria helping Assad. I hope that the Russians send several battalions there and slaughter every last JIhadi. This of course upsets the US because we are actually supporting ISIS and their affiliates in overthrowing Assad. There is no essential distinction between ISIS and Nusra, they are both Islamist Jihadis who will snuff out whatever civilization remains in Syria, yet we are giving weapons and support to Nusra, and by implication, to ISIS. Assad is the only force with the capability and will to protect Christians in the region. For this, I support him. Damned to hell what the US government says.

Anonymous Curious September 08, 2015 5:24 PM  

And Prussia has been largely obliterated as a culture.

I doubt it. Culture and genetics go hand in hand. That culture will arise again at the right time.

Blogger njartist September 08, 2015 5:44 PM  

99. Joshua Dyal
I suggest you do your own research. I came across the reference years ago by a serious author who did not consider it an urban legend.

The Snopes page that dismisses as an urban legend indicates that German was considered and that there was a petition to translate laws into German.


Anonymous Amok Time September 08, 2015 6:28 PM  

The commentary sounded great, " A giant pathology is approaching the EU, one which we have never seen before.".
And then, he threw this in and spoiled his manliness with this sad statement, "And sorry if anyone is offended by this entry.".

Blogger riptapart September 08, 2015 7:32 PM  

That would be just allowing more of the mindset that leads to all this. They wanted their egalitarian, socialist Utopias. Are the German citizens allowed to own weapons? I think I read that England is gun free. How can the native citizens of these counties even put up a fight. At least here in America, the citizenry, if need be can defend themselves. Boy would it be sweet justice if ever the shtf here in America and the enlightened, upper class Einstein's flee their cities and try to hide behind us backward, hillbilly rednecks with weapons. With the invaders just down the street, I would lock the door and watch their loving equals eat them.

Blogger Thucydides September 08, 2015 7:38 PM  

@76 has the right idea: pack all these young men into camps and give them enough basic military training so you can ship them back to the ME and have them join the Islamic civil wars on whatever side needs the most help today (don't issue weapons and ammunition until after they have offloaded the boats).

While the US may have been trying to use the Muslim Brotherhoods, ISIS and other Salafi radicals for their own purposes, never doubt that they are a "home grown" problem and the laughably inept Administration and State Department have managed to bungle any possibility of harnessing them to advance US aims (most likely because the current Administration is essentially aimless outside of advancing progressive policies at home).

The Saudis and Gulf States have been trying to use the radicals as their weapons against the Iranians and Iranian allies and supporters, and boy, they are really getting their wish now that the Russians are openly joining the fray. I predict ISIS fighters will attack Russian troops and installations regardless of the cost, knowing that more dead Russians are a hug propaganda victory for them and a giant loss for Russia. (How Russia plans to pay for all this and Ukraine is anyone's guess). The secondary duty of ISIS is to create a firebreak to prevent Turkey from getting ideas about reasserting itself in the former Ottoman Empire's zone of influence. If ISIS fighters can spark Islamist uprisings in Russia's near beyond then Saudi Arabia scores a bonus. They don't give a toss about Europeans or Americans, the refugee "crisis" is a useful distraction for the Saudis, since it takes attention away from their centre of gravity.

300,000+ fighters with small arms, RPG's and other light weaponry will create a vast amount of havoc in the contested zones, and most certainly will extinguish Hezbollah and the remnant's of Syria's military, crushing the Iranian goal of regional hegemony unless Iran pumps even more resources into the fight (currently they use Hezbollah fighters as cannon fodder and their Quds force for the heavy lifting, they conveniently have the USAF and alliance as air cover). Bleeding out Iranian forces with hundreds of thousands of armed "refugees" (most of whom would kill Iranians in a heartbeat because they are apostates and Persians) would actually solve a lot of problems at once.

Anonymous Discard September 08, 2015 7:39 PM  

128. Paradigm: The Austrians and half of the Swiss are Germans. Don't know if they're willing to sign up for a Fourth Reich.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 08, 2015 8:35 PM  

I am encouraged today. The provincial gov't pledged $1 million to the syrian refugee crisis. The local tv station conducted a poll asking if more should be done.

37% said yes, 63% said no. Even the comments had only one brainless women say it is obviously not enough. People pointed out that homeless are in tents and countries closer to the problem are taking no action. At least here, the hysteria did not take hold.

Blogger automatthew September 08, 2015 9:04 PM  

Hugh doesn't appear to be Tad.

I think Hugh is a Dread Ilk trolling. I have not checked IP tracking yet.

Anonymous A. Nonymous September 08, 2015 9:35 PM  

"Closer examination" revealed he was a fraud, he never collected the data he claimed to have when he wrote that up.

My point exactly. I'm not saying that the Great War and its immediate sequel were not tremendously damaging for the West on all points, but I do have to question the idea that the best were more likely to die than the rest. It seems to me that the really smart, aggressive war-fighters, like Erich Hartman or Kurt Meyer, to name just a couple of German examples, actually had a rather better survival rate than their less gifted comrades.

Anonymous Shutup, Tad September 08, 2015 9:44 PM  

@139 automatthew

>Hugh doesn't appear to be Tad.

I could have told you that if you had asked politely.

And I don't need no stinkin' IP tracking.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 08, 2015 9:52 PM  

@70 Hugh

1. It is the RIGHT THING TO DO. There is a crisis, people are dying, we can help, it is our bloody duty to do so.

What is your position on abortion?

Blogger Curtis September 08, 2015 10:13 PM  

VIDEO: Greek Island Turns Into War Zone as Syrian and Afghan Migrants Clash - with video

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/08/greek-islands-turned-into-a-war-zone-by-migrants-supposedly-fleeing-war/

Full video here:

http://www.rtl.de/video/index/showvid/id/393249

In other news, we're having a monsoon rain right now, and HS! lighting just striked right behind my wall, where I am sitting, in the back yard. And I have a headache now. LOL, that was so damn close I think I have a concussion. Well, at least they have been 35 years apart.

Anonymous Hoss September 08, 2015 10:42 PM  

If you want the SJWs to kowtow to you then simply practice violence. Look how well it works for the Muslims (and within their own group, the unions): the SJWs fall all over themselves to make sure everyone behaves according to the terms of the Islamists. If you don't act accordingly, well, you asked for whatever is coming. Nothing like a good old-fashioned gang rape to make an uppity bitch get with the program. Maybe a Christian group should splinter off and start dealing the left some serious bullying, shaming, and the occasional smattering of beatings, etc.

Anonymous Hoss September 08, 2015 10:44 PM  

No violence against women. Thought it needed to be pointed out. We'll let that remain the domain of vibrants and Muslims.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral September 08, 2015 10:56 PM  

@145 Hoss

> No violence against women. Thought it needed to be pointed out. We'll let that remain the domain of vibrants and Muslims.

But all the SJWs ARE women, even the nominal men. And what about the men that present as women? Can we beat the snot out of them?

Your plan needs fleshing out..........

Anonymous Discard September 08, 2015 11:23 PM  

140. A. Nonymous: Paul Fussell, an infantry officer during WW2 and author of "The Great War in Modern Memory", thought that American style war was eugenic in some respects. The infantry was filled with men whose test scores did not qualify them for technical jobs. Germany did not have nearly so many technicians, and so put smarter men into the front lines.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 09, 2015 12:53 AM  

And Prussia has been largely obliterated as a culture.

I doubt it. Culture and genetics go hand in hand.

I repeat: the Soviets were very thorough about that.


That culture will arise again at the right time.

How many Juncker familes do you think continued to exist after 1945?

Anonymous JimR September 09, 2015 12:55 AM  

@88

A person who by assault or other violence or by threat of a criminal act forces another person to have sexual intercourse or to undertake or endure another sexual act that, in view of the seriousness of the violation, is comparable to sexual intercourse, shall be sentenced for rape to imprisonment for at least two and at most six years.
This also applies if a person engages with another person in sexual intercourse or in a sexual act which under the first paragraph is comparable to sexual intercourse by improperly exploiting that the person, due to unconsciousness, sleep, serious fear, intoxication or other drug influence, illness, physical injury or mental disturbance, or otherwise in view of the circumstances, is in a particularly vulnerable situation.
— The Swedish Penal Code, Chapter 6, Section 1[24]

Seems pretty clear cut to me. Rape is rape, just ask GRRM.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 09, 2015 12:56 AM  

128. Paradigm: The Austrians and half of the Swiss are Germans. Don't know if they're willing to sign up for a Fourth Reich.


The Swiss still teach about Morgarten. The forest cantons have been independent since 1270 AD or so. They might just want to continue that way.

And everyone knows the Austrians don't speak German, they speak Austrian. Just ask that guy in the White House...

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 09, 2015 4:00 AM  

@70. Hugh

I don't know where you are from but when various European nations were invaded and attacked they fought back. They didn't "economically migrate" to richer, safer nations, they stayed and fought back.

These "economic migrants" are apparently fleeing a war torn country which is so terrible but they've left their women and children behind. ?!? UTTER CRAP

They have to pass through 8 other countries (inc EU ones) in order to feel "safe"?!? BULLSHIT!

I don't believe I'm engaging a troll. I do believe I am engaging one of the feeble-minded leftists who buy these obvious lies out of pure cowardice. They deserve to be shouted down wherever the raise their ugly, multi-chinned heads out of their basements.

Anonymous Fnord P September 09, 2015 4:51 AM  

@29 Erik
Recently my picnic in a public park in France was interrupted by armed "park police" (yes, that's a thing here). I was informed that alcohol is not permitted in the park and (since it was a first offence) I should drink up and then never again bring alcohol to the park.

While the prohibition is true, I have been picnicking with a bottle of rosé or a few beers in that park for well over a decade and no one has ever bothered me before.

Two of the three police were clearly north African, the third who stayed in the van seemed European.

They had to go to every table and inform every picnicker of their violation since wine with a meal is part of the indigenous culture. That law is clearly aimed at preventing groups of youths getting drunk and out of hand not at families having a glass of wine with their meal.

Needless to say I was as angry as one can be at an armed man issuing orders, finished the wine and proceeded to drink all the beers I had also brought along for the afternoon.

Will these morality police be enforcing the law when groups of potentially violent yoofs are involved? Or the homeless who camp in the park under my windows? I think we all know the answer to that.

Nationalist protests in France often take the form of an outdoor aperitif with ham and saucisson to accompany the pastis. A simple point well made.

Blogger #0006 Hammer September 09, 2015 5:19 AM  

@152. Fnord P "....Or the homeless who camp in the park under my windows?"

If you want to deal with disposing bodies try pepper spray (you may have to repeat a couple of times but he'll eventually find a more "peaceful" spot.
Oh, and wear a balaclava.

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 09, 2015 5:47 AM  

@123:

"Ethically cleansed", were you?

Stay away from my daughters.

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 09, 2015 5:52 AM  

On a more serious note, it seems some of you need to think about Vox's comment in the interview which features in the next thread, about all of us avoiding the shitty job of cleaning out the garbage, as long as circumstances allow us to do so.

The German people are not any one thing. A lot of us could be called statists only in the sense that, during the post-war years the German state appeared to be delivering on its promises.

There is a reason for the saying "markets make opinions" and as the German state continues to renege on its promises to its own people, the proportion of statists will continue to diminish.

The German people are already boiling mad over handing out German taxes to Greeks; they're not going to take to handing them out to random gatecrashers.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 09, 2015 6:09 AM  

155. ScuzzaMan: "There is a reason for the saying "markets make opinions" and as the German state continues to renege on its promises to its own people, the proportion of statists will continue to diminish."

Who are the German state's own people?

What are the important promises to them?

Anonymous The other robot September 09, 2015 10:23 AM  

Hugh posted the same crap at iSteve under the name Gimpy.

Anonymous A. Nonymous September 09, 2015 11:32 AM  

Paul Fussell, an infantry officer during WW2 and author of "The Great War in Modern Memory", thought that American style war was eugenic in some respects. The infantry was filled with men whose test scores did not qualify them for technical jobs. Germany did not have nearly so many technicians, and so put smarter men into the front lines.

Hence Martin van Creveld's estimation that the average German soldier had the combat effectiveness of what was it, four or more of his Allied counterparts combined?

Anonymous Curious September 09, 2015 3:50 PM  

Maybe Merkel is trying to do an end run around German Unions, by bringing in lots of cheap labor in the guise of being a humanitarian.

I am sure that all those German women who support "refugee" resettlement in Germany will still be happy when their husbands or sons get laid off in favor of cheaper workers.

Anonymous Discard September 09, 2015 5:11 PM  

158. A. Nonymous: Off the top of my head, I think it was something like 1 German=1.3 Americans. 1G.=4A. seems to be way too much. Maybe we're both wrong and it's somewhere in between.

Blogger great_o'rety September 10, 2015 9:57 AM  

The funny thing is this story was told by a Polish SWJ. A gay no less. I guess a close contact with vibrancy treats all ills and in a rather rapid fashion

Blogger SciVo September 10, 2015 7:54 PM  

I'm certainly not responding to a troll at 70ish when I point out that whether in Italy, Japan or America, men delay marriage and babies when they can't do as well as their fathers and feel inadequate to starting a family. Likewise, women delay marriage and babies when they aren't attracted to the men that aren't doing as well as their fathers.

You have to be too stupid to live -- or too evil to be honest -- if you can look at that situation and say, "Ah ha! What they need is a bunch of fecund immigrants to drive down wages and make babies, since the natives won't."

Anonymous Discard September 10, 2015 10:48 PM  

SciVo: The conditions that drive Europeans and Americans to lower their birthrates also encourage the Darks to increase theirs. With all the freebies they receive from White governments, they are doing much better than their fathers.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite September 11, 2015 1:51 AM  

When social scientists call for studies and policies to ensure mass immigrants experience upward social mobility, who is supposed to experience the corresponding downward mobility?

Are we supposed to believe professors can't figure out that when immigrants increase their share of rewarding and prestigious occupations, that means non-immigrants are losing their share of those occupations?

Anonymous Discard September 11, 2015 4:52 PM  

164. Whitey: The professors arranged it all. Politicians don't do long term planning..

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