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Saturday, September 12, 2015

SJWs always double down

Seriously, SJWs will even defend self-admitted pedophiles so long as the pedophiles dutifully adhere to the Narrative:
Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft
This is well written, and #Gamergate'rs, in case it wasn't blatantly obvious, I support @srhbutts. Go drink bleach.
83 retweets 126 favorites

Vox Day ‏@voxday
@ChrisWarcraft You're supporting pedophiles now, Kluwe? Put down the Marion Zimmer Bradley novel and seek help. Stat.
27 retweets 69 favorites

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft
@voxday How's it going with your Nazi buddies over there? You guys win that culture war yet? I'm sure it'll be any day now.

 Vox Day ‏@voxday
@ChrisWarcraft Better than it's going with your pedophile pals. Has your wife filed a restraining order to keep you away from children yet?

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft
@voxday Lol, nine hours and that was the best you could do? No wonder No Award kicked your ass at writing.

Vox Day ‏@voxday
.@ChrisWarcraft Is it hard to make the school run when you're not legally allowed within 100 feet of the building?

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft
@voxday Tell me, how does it feel watching your "movement" collapse in real time? Do the rats claw at you on their way off the ship?

Vox Day ‏@voxday
.@ChrisWarcraft Tell me, do you see yourself as a misunderstood child inside or are you just a straight-out sexual predator?

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft
@voxday Now you're just being boring. I have no time for boring. Back to the mute cage! Don't worry, I'll let you out after you calm down.

Vox Day ‏@voxday
.@ChrisWarcraft One certainly wouldn't want to cut into your special time uploading pictures to your pedophile pals. Run away now, run away!
Strangely enough, Kluwe decided it was best to end the exchange there. Quelle surprise. But SJW doubling-down is not just limited to Twitter. From Publishers Weekly comes the shocking news that the leading SJW publisher in science fiction has just signed a leading SJW to publish an SJW-message fiction novel. With EPH on the way, I think we can safely predict what one of the two Tor entrants for the 2018 Best Novel will be.

Post-scarcity was interesting when Stross tackled it in Accelerando. Doctorow desperately wants to be considered an Important Thinker, but he simply doesn't have the intellect for it. He's much better at marketing himself than he is at actually coming up with anything new or even interesting.
Novelist and outspoken open-source advocate Cory Doctorow sold North American rights to a new novel, Utopia, to Patrick Nielsen Hayden at Tor Books. Hayden brokered the deal with Russell Galen at Scovil Galen Ghosh Literary Agency, and Tor is planning to publish the title in early 2017. The novel, which marks Doctorow’s first solo adult fiction effort since 2009’s Makers, is set in the latter part of this century; Hayden described it as a “big, sprawling story” about what happens when advancements in technology make peace and abundance for all a possibility, allowing humans to “simply walk away from the systems of work and coercive authority that have run the world since agriculture began.”
UPDATE: Of course, it's not only SJWs who can double down.

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122 Comments:

OpenID basementhomebrewer September 12, 2015 10:13 AM  

It sounds like a truly terrible and undeniably fictitious story. It sounds like the marxist utopia story lines of the 19th century. One day everyone will be equal, there will be no classes anymore and no one will have to work.

It's drawing back the curtain on the inner mindset of these people. They don't believe in work or accomplishment and their version of heaven on earth is one in which sloth and perversion are the sole purposes of life.

Anonymous WinstonWebb September 12, 2015 10:14 AM  

You think SparklePunter enjoys that awkward moment when the kids discover there is actually no candy in the van?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2015 10:17 AM  

I have wondered what all the players especially the black players thought about Line Drive the Sparklepunter? Me thinks they thought him the twinks and his rage is directed at a SJW approved out group

Blogger Patrick September 12, 2015 10:20 AM  

Is anything from Cory Doctorow good? A number of his books are free downloads from his site.

Anonymous Bz September 12, 2015 10:20 AM  

Just in time for E Pluribus, Tor Hugo.

Anonymous Zartan September 12, 2015 10:22 AM  

Doctorow at DEF CON:

"I'm going to take questions in this manner, one from a man, then one from someone who is female, identifies as female or is non-binary"

I was waiting for next talk, so much head shaking.

Blogger tridekka September 12, 2015 10:22 AM  

“simply walk away from the systems of work and coercive authority that have run the world since agriculture began.”

That's an easy story. One portion turn into fat lazy bastards, another segment starts killing off the fat ones to take their stuff, mass suicides happen from those who feel an overwhelming emptiness from not having a purpose in life, and groups of 'far-right extremists' who want to live simple lives farming off the grid are declared to be dangerous and hunted down by drones.

Blogger Doug Cranmer September 12, 2015 10:23 AM  

Gah! Cory effing Doctorow. I've such a visceral dislike of that ahole.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 12, 2015 10:23 AM  

I believe we are already experiencing post-scarcity with respect to most commodities (energy, food, water, housing). Hence the universal interest and rumblings about population sizes, borders, etc.

Blogger Doug Cranmer September 12, 2015 10:25 AM  

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OpenID basementhomebrewer September 12, 2015 10:26 AM  

Wow, I hadn't researched the Nyberg situation until now. This is one seriously disturbed individual and it's unbelievable that Sandifer or Kluwe have any credibility after openly stating they support him. What does Femfrequency think about pedophilia with young girls? She should be asked that by every person who interviews her from now on.

Blogger Josh September 12, 2015 10:31 AM  

Didn't Kluwe help cover up an incident involving his teammates and underage girls?

Blogger VD September 12, 2015 10:32 AM  

Is anything from Cory Doctorow good?

Not that I have read.

Blogger David-093 September 12, 2015 10:39 AM  

"That's an easy story. One portion turn into fat lazy bastards, another segment starts killing off the fat ones to take their stuff, mass suicides happen from those who feel an overwhelming emptiness from not having a purpose in life, and groups of 'far-right extremists' who want to live simple lives farming off the grid are declared to be dangerous and hunted down by drones."

Kind of like...today.

These assholes never think their beliefs through.

Blogger CM September 12, 2015 10:44 AM  

I'd like tridekka to write this book.

Until then, i'll stick with More's edition.

Anonymous Bz September 12, 2015 10:46 AM  

Perosnally, I'm afraid I've always found Doctorow's work rather dull, yet ineffably respected. A bit like late William Gibson without ever being early William Gibson.

Given that PNH is now his editor, it may be interesting to know that TNH used to be Doctorow's moderator on Boing Boing. (With the same wit and reasonable charm as Madame Mao, why do you ask?)

This is probably his, not to mention TNHs, best work:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080824180345/http://boingboing.net/2008/07/01/that-violet-blue-thi.html

Anonymous MrGreenMan September 12, 2015 10:53 AM  

If it doesn't degenerate into petty differences and chasing after useless things just to horde them like a global Beanie-Baby fight at the K-Mart on Black Friday, suspension of disbelief will be impossible.

Blogger bearspaw September 12, 2015 11:01 AM  

If the rapid change of acceptance of homosexuals is anything to go by, expect the pedophile "community" to be prancing next to their soulmates at a parade near you soon. Public school children are already being drenched into accepting this latest perversion.

OpenID techdouchebaggery September 12, 2015 11:08 AM  

I will admit that I liked Doctorow's first novel (Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom) but everything he's done after that is garbage. "Makers" is at the top of my list of worst sci-fi books of all time. It was too long, boring, had characters I couldn't care less about. I skipped about 100 pages to get to the ending. Thankfully it was an ebook so it went into the electronic garbage bin and not a landfill.

Anonymous TroperA September 12, 2015 11:11 AM  

Subversive Writing 101:

Remember kids, when writing your futuristic blank-slate Marxist Utopia where genderfluid elves laze around and think up which of their preferred pronouns they want to be called at what particular time of the day, be sure to be as vague as possible about how it all runs! Just say nanobots do everything. Nanobots are the "wizard" of the future!

And if you have to give people something to do, you have two options: "Orgy-Porgy" and "Kindergarten Craft Projects". Those are the things SJWs would be doing all day if they weren't tirelessly crusading on the Tumblrs! (And if they weren't hideously ugly eat-beasts whom no one but other hideously ugly eat-beasts could bang.)

When writing your futuristic dystopia, be sure to describe it as capitalistic and to base it on 1950's Suburban America. (Even though it was the most prosperous and wealthy period of American history, all of the coolest people were being oppressed around that time, so that's the setting you have to use.) Be sure to include among your protagonists a suave libertine who looks like an attractive version of you, who ventures into the society to teach all of its blonde, buzzcutted teenagers and repressed June Cleaver Housewives the joys of extramarital sex! If you can throw in a hamfisted metaphor for sexual awakening (like the buildings and lawns slowly turning from black and white into various shades of color as more people are banging each other,) you're golden!

Anonymous Dave September 12, 2015 11:12 AM  

> I have wondered what all the players especially the black players thought about Line Drive the Sparklepunter? Me thinks they thought him the twinks and his rage is directed at a SJW approved out group

The other players whatever their ethnicity don't think about kickers at all and that's the position more should follow.

Blogger kurt9 September 12, 2015 11:14 AM  

I read "Accelerando" and was not that impressed with it. It reminded me of a much earlier work by Bruce Sterling called "Schizmatrix" which was far better, both with characters as well as plot and setting.

Blogger Kull September 12, 2015 11:15 AM  

I am writing about a post scarcity society. It has completely degenerated into a hunt for status. People will never stop trying to one up each other. And in fact scarcity will always exist as long as women are choosy about who they give it up for.

MrGreenMan nailed it with bonus chuckles to boot.

Blogger Zaklog the Great September 12, 2015 11:19 AM  

@18 Yeah, if you keep your eyes peeled there are already signs that pedophilia is on the list of sexual perversions to be normalized. There was an article on (guess who?!) Gawker a couple of years ago about how pedophilia is a sexual orientation and we should feel sorry for them rather than angry, etc. etc. This, if you're paying attention, sounds an awful lot like how leftists were talking about homosexuality three or four decades ago. I guess a few decades hence, if you dislike the idea, you'll be labeled a "pedophobe" or some other such nonsense term.

Blogger SDH September 12, 2015 11:21 AM  

Didn't Kluwe help cover up an incident involving his teammates and underage girls?

Yep, and he has a pedosmile.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24628550/chris-kluwe-cant-be-moral-crusader-after-his-cruel-twitter-rant

Anonymous Stingray September 12, 2015 11:23 AM  

@12

Josh, Looks like it.

Anonymous FP September 12, 2015 11:27 AM  

"Is anything from Cory Doctorow good?"

Little Brother is the only thing of his that I've read. The main thing going for it was that it was free.

Blogger Kull September 12, 2015 11:30 AM  

Transgenders were originally reviled by gay rights groups and feminists. There are still some hold outs on that scene. But now its all one big ideologically inconsistent happy family. I have no doubt whatsoever that pedos are the next cause. The hardcore activists are in it for two reasons. One, there is money in non profits. Two, their radical beliefs are a positional good. When everyone, or most people, or at least the right people, are behind gay marriage then it loses its juice. You can't feel superior anymore. I remember in the nineties when punk became a platinum seller suddenly the cutting edge people were listening to Japanese experimental noise and John Zorn. Same thing. You have to really want to be cool to make yourself listen to Merzbow and you really must want to sparkle to endorse kiddy diddling. Drown them in fucking bogs like Tacitus describes. The diddlers, not the Merzbow listeners. They are already suffering.

Blogger buwaya September 12, 2015 11:31 AM  

Iain Banks did this about a dozen times didn't he ?

Blogger buwaya September 12, 2015 11:34 AM  

"And if you have to give people something to do, you have two options: "Orgy-Porgy" and "Kindergarten Craft Projects"."

Thats pretty much what Iain Banks' humans do, except for the secret agents that worry about human affairs.

Anonymous Giuseppe The Kurgan September 12, 2015 11:39 AM  

I predict Cory's novel will have massive amounts of butt sex.

Blogger Jim September 12, 2015 11:45 AM  

@TroperA
I always watch Pleasantville whenever it comes on. I don’t know why. I don’t like Reese Witherspoon at all, and while I thought Toby made a good Peter Parker, he’s nothing special in this movie. In the beginning of the movie, the young man idolizes the show because it portrays all the things missing from his own life; an intact family who care about each other, wonderful school, and a sense of community in neighborhood and town. All this is jettisoned in favor of promoting individual sensual pleasures. The town fathers who recognize the danger to the community are the portrayed as Nazi’s. But the sister (who led the attack on town morals) stays at the end because it’s still so much better than the modern day relative cesspool we live in. Lots of mixed messages and I guess I like trying to figure out what the moral of the story is supposed to be.

Anonymous Dave September 12, 2015 11:47 AM  

> I predict Cory's novel will have massive amounts of butt sex.

Good enough for a Hugo

Blogger Elocutioner #0226 September 12, 2015 11:51 AM  

After reading here for the last couple of years (thank you for this forum Vox) I've come to the conclusion that any post-scarcity society that won't degenerate into yet another marxist dystopia is one based on a healthy religion like Christianity. Without a wise and just people who accept reality such as human nature and sin the tools of power will always be turned on the people. And making the tools exponentially more powerful is purely a recipe for disaster. Marxists shouldn't be allowed to control anything bigger than a commune.

The ironic thing is by rejecting a good faith these nihilists forever put post-scarcity out of reach. And that is what has me the maddest, honestly. We went to the moon within a decade and since then all the howling egalitarians have done nothing is try to drag us back into the primordial ooze of envy and resentment for their own petty purposes and mind games. They don't realize that due to their pettiness we're heading back to scarcity. Soon.

Star Trek would never happen, it runs on rainbows and unicorns. The core story is multiculturalism.

Star Wars perhaps. The core story is struggle and redemption.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2015 11:52 AM  

Maybe it will be a post sex society? Isn't there some SJW twink out there now trying to peddle that on college campuses?

Blogger Anthony Gillis, the Hydra-Headed Mockery September 12, 2015 12:11 PM  

Post-scarcity has been a fantasy of the left since at least Charles Fourier in the early 19th century. His phalanxes were to be collective housing communities, where, through the magic of superior social organization, it would only be necessary to work two hours a day.

More recent utopians have tended to pin their hopes on some combination of the above unicorn farts and actual technological advances.

The problem is, well, one of the many... is that there is no such thing as post-scarcity. The universe is a finite place of finite resources, full of people of finite ability, possessing finite time and attention. Now WHAT is scarce can change, as can both absolute and relative wealth levels, but ever and always, there will be scarcity and trade-offs.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2015 12:21 PM  

Hayden described it as a “big, sprawling story” about what happens when advancements in technology make peace and abundance for all a possibility, allowing humans to “simply walk away from the systems of work and coercive authority that have run the world since agriculture began.”

I read that book when I was ten. The Man Who Awoke by Lawrence Manning, first published in 1933.

Short story version. Communism will be made finally workable by technology, computers, robots and tech stuff.

It should do all right with the Millennials. If PNH can find a few who can read. Although I think this deal is showing PNH's age. Stuff by guys named Cory hasn't sold in years.

Blogger Banjo September 12, 2015 12:23 PM  

Doctorow seems to be on the right side of DRM, privacy laws, and open source.

Down and Out was entertaining, Makers had promise but was booooring. Little Brother was not bad.

Actually, that's about what all of his books felt like to me. Just "meh". Signing with Tor surely won't help, and I wonder if it changes his policy on having his books available for free...

Blogger Anthony Gillis, the Hydra-Headed Mockery September 12, 2015 12:26 PM  

What most of the lefties, SJW or otherwise, are really hoping for is a world where they, personally, don't have to work or do anything that requires real tests of their abilities, because (besides being lazy) the mediocre-to-useless truth interferes with their desire to to see themselves as secret philosopher kings.

With sufficient technology (fusion, nano etc), it might be possible to achieve the APPEARANCE of a post-scarcity world for some section of the population, provided the rest are still using their brains to keep it all running. And, there is always a scarcity of intelligence and competence for work at that level.

So really, the SJWs want to be Eloi, without nasty Morlocks to scare them. Of course, in practice, lots of free time and abundant food without work actually allows all sorts of idiocy to flourish. The would-be Eloi today are more like permanent middle school mean girls, but crazier, while instead of Morlocks (who at least worked) they've gotten welfare Orcs.

But... I'm sure nothing could go wrong.

Blogger Anthony Gillis, the Hydra-Headed Mockery September 12, 2015 12:34 PM  

@35

I doubt they consciously see it that way, but in practice they do resemble 1984's junior anti-sex league.

Or, a lesbian and gay recruitment drive. Their efforts look to be entirely in the direction of making sex fraught with fear and danger for straight men.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2015 12:43 PM  

@Vox

I'm curious about something. Would it have gotten inside Kluwe's OODA loop if you had switched gears in the middle and started praising @srhbutts fearless White Nationalism?

Or would he have just ignored it and continued on his original doubledown?

Blogger Anthony Gillis, the Hydra-Headed Mockery September 12, 2015 12:45 PM  

Seriously, SJWs will even defend self-admitted pedophiles so long as the pedophiles dutifully adhere to the Narrative:

These days, I suspect they'd defend someone raping and then eating a live baby on camera, if he was an SJW. Look where we already are. Pedophilia? Don't be so judgmental! Selling baby parts with the aplomb of a used car salesman? Quibble nitpick quibble, and anyway it was all for the right cause!

Anonymous Herald43 September 12, 2015 12:47 PM  

It wasn't so much an "exchange" as it was a Neener-Neener Fest.

Blogger VD September 12, 2015 12:51 PM  

Would it have gotten inside Kluwe's OODA loop if you had switched gears in the middle and started praising @srhbutts fearless White Nationalism? Or would he have just ignored it and continued on his original doubledown?

I doubt it. Most likely, yes. What gets inside the loop is putting out the graphic Pedopunter meme while he's still trying to deal with the previous exchange. Suddenly, instead of me defending against his false claim that I have Nazi pals, he's not only dealing with his defense of Nyberg, which he expected, but a meme insinuating his own pedophilia, which he did not.

Blogger VD September 12, 2015 12:51 PM  

It wasn't so much an "exchange" as it was a Neener-Neener Fest.

I can tell you haven't read the book. You have no idea what is going on.

Anonymous Herald43 September 12, 2015 12:55 PM  

Childish is as childish does.

Anonymous The other robot September 12, 2015 12:58 PM  

Short story version. Communism will be made finally workable by technology, computers, robots and tech stuff.

And then the machines take over and we get Terminators. Now, that would be cool.

Blogger VD September 12, 2015 1:01 PM  

Childish is as childish does.

Ignorance is not a hallmark of maturity.

Blogger Danby September 12, 2015 1:07 PM  

One for Kluwe

Blogger Josh September 12, 2015 1:11 PM  

And then the machines take over and we get Terminators. Now, that would be cool.

What could go wrong?

Blogger Blue88 September 12, 2015 1:33 PM  

First thing I thought when I read about the plot of Doctorow's story was a SJW version of Atlas Shrugged.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 12, 2015 1:35 PM  

The thing to remember about Forrest Gump isn't that he was retarded, but that he was a fundamentally decent person. So Herald, if you want to model your life after Forrest, you've got to do more than just be retarded. Try for the "fundamentally decent" part too. That's really important.

Anonymous The other robot September 12, 2015 1:44 PM  

So, has Doctorow actually done anything in open source?

I am unfamiliar with that name with respect to any of the software I use or have worked on.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 12, 2015 1:45 PM  

When I saw the update, I had a long, evil laugh that was worthy of Raoh from Fist of the North Star.

Anonymous Drakovan September 12, 2015 1:48 PM  

Vox boring? Coming from a guy with a more interesting World of Warcraft character than NFL career? Of course he needs to cling to defend every SJW, they are the only thing keeping him marginally relevant.

Anonymous See chameleon lying there in the sun September 12, 2015 1:49 PM  

Run away now, run away!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikMiQZF-mAY

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 12, 2015 1:54 PM  

Seeing how rich, middle class, white, leftist westerners have come as close as to not being required to work as any generation in the past it's a shame and a disgrace to see how they've wasted it:

Obese haters inventing grievances, imagining non-existent oppressions, men pretending to be women and imaginary creatures while they butt fuck each other senseless with dragon dildos in polyamorous orgies celebrate destroying their own awards, oh and the unending gluttony, don't forget the gluttony so they can be sure to be a drain on society and the health system so you can't forget them until their (hopefully premature) unwept for deaths.

And these are generally the most wealthy, privileged, educated members of society Imagine the clusterfuck where nobody had to work and everybody got to indulge their worst perversions?

Man needs adversity to thrive. The depravity of these fat, lazy, overprivileged SJWs is absolute proof of this fact.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 12, 2015 2:03 PM  

@52. Jack Amok
So Herald, if you want to model your life after Forrest, you've got to do more than just be retarded.

Hear hear.

Anonymous The other robot September 12, 2015 2:05 PM  

Watch out John Scalzi. Cory Doctorow is going to replace you!

Blogger SciVo September 12, 2015 2:11 PM  

Kull @23: "And in fact scarcity will always exist as long as women are choosy about who they give it up for."

Indeed, one of the biggest differences in a post-scarcity society is that the guys that have to pay for sex will have nothing to offer. What will they do then?

Blogger Floyd Looney September 12, 2015 2:11 PM  

I find it hard to believe that it has become more socially acceptable to molest kids than not be a leftwinger. Insane.

Anonymous Strange Aeons September 12, 2015 2:15 PM  

I was going to suggest a drinking game where we take a shot every time PedoPunter thinks he's being clever by Tweeting something about ethics in journalism, but upon reflection I'm a bit old to be courting alcohol poisoning over weaksauce snark.

Anonymous The other robot September 12, 2015 2:23 PM  

Indeed, one of the biggest differences in a post-scarcity society is that the guys that have to pay for sex will have nothing to offer. What will they do then?

Elin Krantz found out.

Blogger tweell September 12, 2015 2:25 PM  

Kluwe went full Godwin on his first reply? And he's trying to snark about Vox's tweets?

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 12, 2015 2:31 PM  

Phil Sandifer ‏@PhilSandifer 22h22 hours ago
I stand with @srhbutts. Without a single reservation. And if you support the attacks on her, you're a perverted sadist. Simple fucking fact.

Phil Sandifer ‏@PhilSandifer 19h19 hours ago
Phil Sandifer retweeted Milo Yiannopoulos Disgusitng
Yes you are. Given your love of wallowing in filth, it's no surprise you're buddies with fascists like Vox Day.

Phil Sandifer @PhilSandifer
@alexandraerin What happens if we just flatly refuse to give credence to anyone who flagrantly deadnames people, for that matter?

They flagrantly flounce to the fainting couches?

Blogger Josh September 12, 2015 2:34 PM  

what is deadnaming?

Anonymous freddie_mac September 12, 2015 2:36 PM  

You wanna talk abut Utopia, and its scary underbelly? Haven't read any Doctorow, but the best (IMHO) was by Tanith Lee, lo these 40 years ago.

Don't Bite the Sun (1976) and Drinking Sapphire Wine (1977) deal with a utopian socety, where people never have to work or worry (life's just a party), no responsibility, and nothing you do matters. Depressed? Just kill yourself, you'll get a new body. Don't want to be a girl? Never fear, you can just swtch to a male body. Nothing counts, nothing matters ...

"But there comes a time when you begin to think about serious things, to want to do something valid. And that's when you find out there are rules beyond the rules and that the world is something else than all they've taught you." (back cover of Don't Bite the Sun)

In approxmately 325pgs, Lee gives us a corrupt utopia and our hero's struggle to break free and to live a life of value, to do things that matter, to take responsibility, to deal with the consequences of her actions ... to grow up.

Not sure if Doctorow can do better, but won't hold my breath.

Blogger Danby September 12, 2015 2:37 PM  

Dear Pedopunter
Deadnaming people and not liking gays are not sins.
Raping children is,
Sincerely, reality.

Anonymous Quintus Maximus September 12, 2015 2:37 PM  

"deadnaming”—the term used in the trans community for calling a trans person by the assigned name at birth.

Blogger Danby September 12, 2015 2:38 PM  

@66 Josh September
what is deadnaming?
Refusing to call Bruce Jenner 'Caitlyn' or Nick Nyberg 'Sarah'

Blogger Joel #0164 September 12, 2015 2:38 PM  

"Deadnaming" is calling Bruce Jenner Bruce Jenner. "Bruce" is dead, you see. Now he's "Caitlyn."

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 12, 2015 2:40 PM  

@65Deadnaming wtf is deadnaming? Their imagined crimes and grievances get more obscure day by day.

"Oh you evil Nazi, you name shamed that person by using their name" *retires to fainting couch to have an imaginary period*

Pedofer is a perfect example of the SJW benefiting from post-scarcity in his own privileged life to dedicate his time to ruining everyone else's I was talking about @57

Anonymous Strange Aeons September 12, 2015 2:43 PM  

Deadnaming: still calling him Chris Kluwe when his name is now PedoPunter

Blogger Mark Citadel September 12, 2015 2:47 PM  

Kluwe is most certainly a faggot, let's be honest. He actually appeared as a guest of honor at a Gay Pride parade in Minnesota, and it isn't as if he's a politician or someone who would actually be compelled to do so. It is always best to mock people like Kluwe, and also throw in a hint of threat now and again, just because of the hilarious reaction it gets of leftist pants-shitting. This guy should be thrown out of a helicopter.

Anonymous Grobyc September 12, 2015 3:08 PM  

putting out the graphic Pedopunter meme while he's still trying to deal with the previous exchange.

Except he's no longer dealing with you. You are impotent and boring.

Anonymous BGS September 12, 2015 3:11 PM  

"Deadnaming" is calling Bruce Jenner Bruce Jenner. "Bruce" is dead, you see.

Your Honor once Bruce Jenner told me he was dead I realized he was a zombie out to kill me, so I got out my Make Dead Things Deader Device. I thought zombies where supposed to look at your head for brains but he was looking at my crotch.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 12, 2015 3:12 PM  

@75. Grobyc

All the kids gone home already, pedo?

Blogger Josh September 12, 2015 3:16 PM  

Is it deadnaming to call Vox by his given name?

Or is it only deadnaming when our side does it?

Blogger VD September 12, 2015 3:22 PM  

Except he's no longer dealing with you. You are impotent and boring.

Want to bet on that? SJWs like Pedopunter can never maintain their flounce.

Anonymous The other robot September 12, 2015 3:32 PM  

So, is #Pedopunter trending yet?

Blogger MidKnight (#138) September 12, 2015 3:36 PM  

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Blogger MidKnight (#138) September 12, 2015 3:38 PM  

Is anything from Cory Doctorow good?

Not that I have read.

I tried three of his books, in large part because certain ends of the geeky crowd raved about it.

CD is part of the "Copyrights/patents are bad" crowd, but at the extreme "period, ever" end of it, not the "as currently applied to music, videos, and software by idiots" end.

Down and Out in Disneyland was not awful, but not great, and not only would economics not work, but undermined itself because it still revolved on people needing to satisfy a way to improve status and lifestyle despite never NEEDING to do anything to get by.

Little brother was a mess, down to gratuitous scenes of waterboarding just because that was the in thing with the Occupy-minded crowd.

A bit like late William Gibson without ever being early William Gibson.

Well said.

I am writing about a post scarcity society. It has completely degenerated into a hunt for status. People will never stop trying to one up each other. And in fact scarcity will always exist as long as women are choosy about who they give it up for.

It was this factor that made "Down and Out" tolerable from a suspension of disbelief standpoint, even if he tried to work around it.

Speaking of post-scarcity, Damon Knight's "A is for Anything" was a rather effective story about the pitfalls of that, where the designers and makers end up effectively enslaved to make new and original things, as anything already built/designed could be replicated.

Anonymous Wyrd September 12, 2015 3:40 PM  

Trump interviews himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2DgwPG7mAA

Anonymous NateM September 12, 2015 3:40 PM  

"You think SparklePunter enjoys that awkward moment when the kids discover there is actually no candy in the van?"

He's just reliving the moment Minnesota discovered the same about his talent

Blogger Feather Blade September 12, 2015 3:46 PM  

@ 6: "I'm going to take questions in this manner, one from a man, then one from someone who is female, identifies as female or is non-binary"

Seriously? I think it's terribly sexist and discriminatory of Doctorow to lump "female, identifies as female or is non-binary" into one category.

He should have done "a question from a man, a question from a woman, a question from one who IDs as other"

Blogger Anthony Gillis, the Hydra-Headed Mockery September 12, 2015 3:56 PM  

The Special Bear Club grows and grows.

Notice how they make generalized, off-topic attacks and accusations rather than face the fact that they either are, or are actively defending pedophiles.

Blogger Updated; LP999/S.I.G. Burn'in Up! September 12, 2015 4:28 PM  

Chris is Revolting and Nauseating. Unique and possibly instructive exchange but my reaction was sickness...Odd.

It takes our host's strong constitution to place the predators where they belong in their cages.

Indeed projecting and doublin' down making Vox look like he is being mean when he is only engaging in honest debate with lower vibrational people. The IQ eclipses whats his name, PervChris.

I'm creeped out.

To hurt the unborn, to mar children, to sabotage and kill/break their spirits, wound their psyche. God's die are holy and loaded.

Anonymous Bz September 12, 2015 4:39 PM  

Don't Bite the Sun (1976) and Drinking Sapphire Wine (1977)

A couple of old favourites of mine, as it happens.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 12, 2015 4:54 PM  

@84 NateM
"You think SparklePunter enjoys that awkward moment when the kids discover there is actually no candy in the van?"

He's just reliving the moment Minnesota discovered the same about his talent
----

I didn't realize he was a punter. Thought he was a male cheerleader.

Anonymous Keener September 12, 2015 5:03 PM  

Vox you are brave, relentless and absolutely admirable on this and in many other things. You never quit. I am in awe. A year ago I was looking for SF/F publishers and went to Tor books blog and saw they were having a gay/lesbian month and I thought uh-oh. Not for me. Since then I have been educated in many things having to do w/ SF/F.

I have been wondering when the legacy publishers were going to revolt against this. Lately I have seen some encouraging signs. Not even upper-class liberals are going to put up with child abuse/rape. Or the advocacy thereof. The creepy Lamprey Eels From Space will suck Tor dry and then attempt to migrate somewhere else. Probably Scholastic, it looks like at this point.

How long will Scholastic put up with it? It interests me to observe and see. How blind can they be? The sucking noises are terrible and reverberate throughout the ship. They got a lot out of Tor---handing each other advances, trips here and there with nice hotels and dinners and little awards --- the Tiptree (yuck). Soon they will slither somewhere else. I know you will be after them. And I also as much as I can.

Accept my profound admiration.

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 12, 2015 5:11 PM  

I saw a joke about 10 years ago, about a guy who invented an instantaneous personal teleport device.

"He now weighs over 500 kilograms"

Basically, the Baron Harkonen is an SJW whose dreams all came true.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 12, 2015 5:15 PM  

I was thinking earlier how an SJW would probably hit a gold mine by rewriting Dune where Harkonen was the hero of the story.

Blogger John Wright September 12, 2015 5:45 PM  

I never read ACCELERANDO, but I wrote THE GOLDEN AGE, which perhaps covers much the same material. Except there is no such thing as post scarcity by definition: since even AI controls nanobots who can make any material object into any other material object nontheless cannot make nothing from nothing, nor make any tool perform all functions equally, whatever there is the least amount of, even if it is only time and creative brain power, will be the scarce resource which will either be economized (as in a freemarket) or wasted (as in a nonfreemarket).

Currently, on the surface of the earth, air is a free good. Making food or fuel a free good would not make the ability to plant a garden beneath an artificial atmosphere on the moon a free good, or a space vessel capable of interstellar travel. Just because some things are cheap, or even free, does not mean each individual has infinite resources, or could.

And social status is still a limited resource, even among, let us say, High School girls of wealthy families who have all material need met by their parents. High School is a post scarcity society in that respect. Are High School girls known for creating utopia?

That is the reality of mankind since the agrarian revolution, and, if truth be told, before. The idea that neolithic life was some romance of property-free abundance comes from the cracked brain of the adulterer Rousseau, and was picked up whole by Marx. Mr Doctorow should be disquieted by the company he keeps.

Blogger David The Good September 12, 2015 5:52 PM  

"The idea that neolithic life was some romance of property-free abundance comes from the cracked brain of the adulterer Rousseau, and was picked up whole by Marx."

Yes indeed.

It was the Christian concept of "taking dominion" that transformed dangerous wildernesses into peaceful hamlets and amber waves of grain.

Blogger SciVo September 12, 2015 6:21 PM  

The other robot @63: "Elin Krantz found out"

That's more likely, though Doctorow will no doubt posit more sodomy instead. Either way, with no hetero sex and no progeny for the men at the bottom, what would society look like after a few generations? And would that dynamic ever reach an equilibrium, or would everything always be relative?

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 12, 2015 6:29 PM  

@71. Joel #0164
"Deadnaming" is calling Bruce Jenner Bruce Jenner. "Bruce" is dead, you see. Now he's "Caitlyn."

Close, but you slipped up and gave yourself away. Today's Minimum Standard SJW Requirement is "Now SHE'S 'Caitlyn'". To signal your Extra Snowflaky Specialness use "Now XE'S 'Caitlyn'", or something like that.

Anonymous RS September 12, 2015 6:30 PM  

Crazy picture. Never knew Adam Lanza had an NFL career before he shot all those kids.

Blogger James Dixon September 12, 2015 6:31 PM  

> Is anything from Cory Doctorow good?

Meredith read Little Brother and I think her reaction can best be summed up as "Meh, it was OK". I don't think either of us have read anything else he's written.

> If it doesn't degenerate into petty differences and chasing after useless things just to horde them like a global Beanie-Baby fight at the K-Mart on Black Friday, suspension of disbelief will be impossible.

Exactly. People who think abundance will bring peace don't understand human nature. They should read the Riverworld series. Farmer had a far better understanding than they do.

> Doctorow seems to be on the right side of DRM, privacy laws, and open source.

Yes he is. But then, a stopped clock is right twice per day. The attraction of open source to socialists is undeniable, but that doesn't mean they're right about anything else.

> So, has Doctorow actually done anything in open source?

He started an open source company and worked for the EFF. As far as actual coding, I'm not aware of any, but can't say he hasn't.

OpenID Lucius Somesuch September 12, 2015 6:37 PM  

TroperA: "Be sure to include among your protagonists a suave libertine who looks like an attractive version of you, who ventures into the society to teach all of its blonde, buzzcutted teenagers and repressed June Cleaver Housewives the joys of extramarital sex!"

--I assume "blonde, buzzcutted" would describe the teenage girls and repressed June Cleaver Housewives after their happy transition to polymorphous freedomtarianism.

Though probably not their spawn, because that would be raciss

Anonymous Eli September 12, 2015 6:46 PM  

Isn't this the guy that said when people think of gamers they also think feminism. He doesn't understand that the culture war isn't about "any day now" it is ongoing with the LONG game in mind. Thank you Vox for putting up with this insanity. I really need to get my hands on that book. Sorry I'm late to the party on that one.

Blogger Floyd Looney September 12, 2015 6:52 PM  

We should all put out short books with a left-handed, minority, SJW'er of ome abnormal sexuality as the BAD GUYS. Surely this will qualify us for Hugo awards.

Blogger Michael Maier September 12, 2015 6:54 PM  

I'm a bit slow... has this tranny freak ever denied the chat logs were his?

I am behind the curve... somehow I thought Pedo Sarah Butts was an actual female.

I'm more sickened now than I was watching Vox' linked video a few days ago.... SHOULD I be?

Blogger Carl Philipp September 12, 2015 7:29 PM  

@102 This tranny freak filed a DMCA complaint about the chatlogs.

Now people such as the article Kluwe linked to are claiming the logs were planted, faked, or planted and then faked. Shrug.

Blogger MidKnight (#138) September 12, 2015 7:40 PM  

And social status is still a limited resource, even among, let us say, High School girls of wealthy families who have all material need met by their parents. High School is a post scarcity society in that respect. Are High School girls known for creating utopia?

So basically “Mean Girls” writ large.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 12, 2015 9:39 PM  

And social status is still a limited resource, even among, let us say, High School girls of wealthy families...

Mai Tai, Roa Ae Mr Wright.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2015 9:55 PM  

@103

On the face of it, the claim is ridiculous but you are talking about a group of people who honestly believe you can change your sex by wishing extra, extra hard.

Blogger Carl Philipp September 12, 2015 10:10 PM  

@106
I haven't exactly put a lot of thought or scrutiny into their claims, other than to say "wait a minute, why are you assuming it was GG that 'changed' the logs? and isn't there a way to get things removed from the archive.org wayback machine?"

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 12, 2015 10:40 PM  

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/12/daily-kos-founder-claims-contributor-at-daily-kos-is-a-breitbart-writer-arrested-for-terrorism/
"Daily Kos founder and Vox cofounder Markos Moulitsas just tweeted: “Breitbart writer arrested for terrorism, for trying to help terrorists build bomb.” He linked to an article that made no mention of Breitbart. But it did list the publications that this terrorist troll, Joshua Goldberg, wrote for, including… the Daily Kos."

Does this count as merely a double down? Or is it more like a triple down? Seems like the usual suspects (Chu, Philo Pedofer, Rainbow Brite Boy, etc.) are going even crazier today over the Nyberg pedo business. The tone sounds higher-pitched.

Blogger Blume September 12, 2015 10:50 PM  

That is a great point. We are going to have a ton of gamma and omega mass killings.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 13, 2015 12:09 AM  

The rabbits are restless tonight.

Arthur Chu retweeted
Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft 22h22 hours ago
Hahaha, #Gamergate'rs so salty right now, they making the Dead Sea envious. This is everything their little hatefuck "movement" deserves.

Arthur Chu retweeted
Margaret Butts ‏@idlediletante 9h9 hours ago North Carolina, USA
Weird: what is it with GG and accusing people of tax evasion? Srhbutts, me. Quinn was also accused of tax cheating.

BaenerysButts retweeted
Randi Lee Harper ‏@randileeharper 21h21 hours ago Goose Butts, England
@randileeharper The thing I've found the most fascinating about GamerGate & Milo is that they take Encyclopedia Dramatica as a valid source.

[Sidebar: BaenerysButts@Auragasmic
Ruler & Collector of Unworthy Men. INTJ. Intersectional Feminist.

BaenerysButts ‏@Auragasmic 40m40 minutes ago
I pretty much slept all day. Woke up, started making food & told the partner I was making dinner. He's like, "I already ate at dinner time"

Mmm. How do you spell gamma again?]

BaenerysButts retweeted
Graham Linehan ‏@Glinner 10h10 hours ago
GG is a hate group made up of trolls, sadistic pseudo-journalists and their dupes. That's all it ever was. Games had nothing to do with it.

BaenerysButts retweeted
Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft 12h12 hours ago
@Nero altered, but also publishes stories based on unvetted information from terrorists.

Chris Kluwe retweeted
[AgentFoxButts] Alex ‏@desertfox899 Sep 11
This has been, from the start, an attempt to kill Sarah because she is trans.
GG is a terrorist hate group.

Chris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft 2h2 hours ago
Just splashed a bunch of hot oil on my wrist while cooking. Can't say I'm a fan of the sensation.


Whupsie. A pro athlete suddenly has problems with basic motor skills. Wonder why?

Blogger Carl Philipp September 13, 2015 12:26 AM  

For those interested in answering pseudo-dialectic with dialectic, or more precisely, in countering the lying doubling-down with facts, here is a master post refuting the lies of the article Kluwe has been plugging, with links to further posts giving more detail on certain points:

https://medium.com/@srhbuttstruth/5-reasons-you-shouldn-t-stand-with-sarah-nyberg-797d84b07ce

Anonymous IndecisiveEvidence September 13, 2015 12:54 AM  

My first instinct reading that exchange is to shake my head. It's just you and Kluwe doing catty girl sniping. I'm a troll so I get it but it seems stupid.

Then it hit me. You reminded me in the comment thread here. I read your book. You're exercising the language Sparklepunter speaks. Brilliant. It's still stupid but now in a completely different light that makes perfect sense.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 September 13, 2015 1:22 AM  

@112. IndecisiveEvidence

My first instinct reading that exchange is to shake my head...
Then it hit me. You reminded me in the comment thread here. I read your book...


More precisely, it's "...you magnificent bastard, I read your book!"

OpenID standingagainsttheworld September 13, 2015 1:51 AM  

SJWs are projecting when they are accusing their opponents of the heinous crimes that they cook up in order to tar and feather them.

Anonymous Conan September 13, 2015 2:03 AM  

Crom!

Anonymous Haxo Angmark September 13, 2015 2:53 AM  

just give 'em the Jack Vance treatment, Vox:

"run along, Fimfle. Just pick a direction. Angela and I will go the other..."

- Vance, THE BOOK OF DREAMS, p. 162

Blogger Tommy Hass September 13, 2015 9:01 AM  

"There was an article on (guess who?!) Gawker a couple of years ago about how pedophilia is a sexual orientation and we should feel sorry for them rather than angry,"

I dunno, pedos are pitiable defectives. I don't wish having it on any of your kids or relatives.

Anonymous Koanic September 13, 2015 11:00 AM  

I had the same impression re Doctorow. Where's the meat? I don't get it. Wanders off...

Can you get Romeo and Juliet if you identify as a child?

Blogger Peter P. VFM #438 September 13, 2015 8:41 PM  

You know what's really terrifying? I found one of my handles in those incriminating chat logs. I was 14 and the net was like new here. I had just logged in to thank for the music because i couldn't get it elsewhere. While I didn't stick there any longer some pedo-lingo was dropped in front of my eyes at the time. However, i just didn't understand it back then. Now i am like : Holy Shit... I DIDN'T KNOW!

Blogger So Meh September 13, 2015 11:10 PM  

SJWs on the march....

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/11/social-justice-warriors-attack-tabletop-gaming-get-their-facts-hopelessly-wrong/

Blogger SciVo September 14, 2015 3:30 AM  

Tommy Hass @117: "I dunno, pedos are pitiable defectives."

No, they're vile predators. What's wrong with you?

Blogger Danby September 14, 2015 5:23 AM  

@SciVo
"What's wrong with you?"
He's a Muslim.

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