ALL BLOG POSTS AND COMMENTS COPYRIGHT (C) 2003-2016 VOX DAY. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. REPRODUCTION WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED.

Tuesday, September 22, 2015

SJWs invade Cimmeria

As it has been said, SJWs always lie. Yet another example, this one from the world of Robert E. Howard scholarship:
At one time the Cimmerian Blog was the cream of the crop for online Robert E. Howard scholarship and I was very proud to be a contributor there in 2009-2010. Since closing down that year the blog has remained online as an archive of scholarship, hosted by the owner Leo Grin.

This weekend I learned that owner had posted a political rant attacking one of the other bloggers, Barbara Barrett, and endorsing controversial science ficiton writer Theodore Beale (a.k.a. Vox Day) founder of the Rabid Puppies group that tried to hijack the Hugo Awards this year. The wording of his rant in the first person plural makes it sound as though all of the other bloggers endorsed this action as well as the ideology of Vox Day. This is not the case at all.

I was not consulted about this and I do not in anyway endorse Leo Grin's comments or the beliefs of Vox Day and the Rabid Puppies. I have asked that my name, image, and posts be removed from the site and Leo has complied. I will likely be reposting some of my less-dated material here as time permits in the weeks to come. I am very saddened that this had to happen and that what was once a great REH blog has been tarnished by such divisive politicization.

That said. there are amazing things happening in Howard fandom and scholarship now and coming in the future. We will not let this petty nonsense get in the way of that great work.
Allow me to translate: "petty nonsense" means someone dared to disagree with an SJW. "Divisive politicization" means that an SJW attempt to take over the organization was resisted.

SJWs can't easily operate out in the open before they've seized effective control. That's why they will cooperate and play along right up until the moment that it becomes clear that their entryism is futile. Then they'll make it clear that their allegiance is to the Narrative, not to the organization or its objectives.

It's all right there in the book. Their playbook never changes much. So learn it and learn how to deal with it, because sooner or later, it will affect you directly.

Labels:

74 Comments:

Blogger David-2 September 22, 2015 5:35 PM  

To see the "political rant" - and you really, really should - look at http://leogrin.com/CimmerianBlog/your-cimmerian-bloggers/ and scroll down to "Social Justice Warrior Interdiction".

Stand firm against The Elderly Nazi Den Mother wherever you might find one!

(Unless, VD, you had a reason for not linking to it, in which case please delete this comment.)

#415

Blogger jay c September 22, 2015 5:36 PM  

Thanks, David-2.

Blogger CarpeOro September 22, 2015 5:46 PM  

Conan would eviscerate this SJW. Just because.

Blogger VD September 22, 2015 5:52 PM  

Unless, VD, you had a reason for not linking to it

I did. I hadn't seen it. Wow, it looks like it was not only a textbook case of entryism, but Mr. Grin dealt with it in exactly the right way. He even managed to smoke out a second SJW entryist by doing so. I'll have to make note of that.

Blogger wfgodbold September 22, 2015 5:53 PM  

Anyone reading REH and thinking he would be on the side of the SJWs is incapable of basic reading comprehension.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery September 22, 2015 5:59 PM  

I've never cared for Conan, because I'm not interested in big sweaty muscle men oiling up their bare chests and grunting, but obviously Jeffy appreciates that sort of thing.

Leo Grin, on the other hand, seems like he knows what's what:

Soiling the building blocks and well-known tropes of our treasured modern myths is no different than other artists taking a crucifix and dipping it in urine, covering it in ants, or smearing it with feces. In the end, it’s just another small, pathetic chapter in the decades-long slide of Western civilization into suicidal self-loathing. It’s a well-worn road: bored middle-class creatives (almost all of them college-educated liberals) living lives devoid of any greater purpose inevitably reach out for anything deemed sacred by the conservatives populating any artistic field. They co-opt the language, the plots, the characters, the cliches, the marketing, and proceed to deconstruct it all like a mad doctor performing an autopsy. Then, using cynicism, profanity, scatology, dark humor, and nihilism, they put it back together into a Frankenstein’s monster designed to shock, outrage, offend, and dishearten.

By Jove, he's got it!

Blogger Daniel September 22, 2015 6:33 PM  

What is best in life?

Crush the SJWs. See them sharting before you. Hear the lamentations of their transexuals.

Blogger Student in Blue September 22, 2015 6:33 PM  

Bravo, Leo Grin!

Blogger John S September 22, 2015 6:38 PM  

Shemites in his woodpile...

Blogger Russell (106) September 22, 2015 6:41 PM  

"The wording of his rant in the first person plural "

A SJW is complaining about pronouns?

These people are almost beyond parody.

Blogger SciVo September 22, 2015 6:44 PM  

@ David-2:

That's good enough to linkify: The Cimmerian 》About the Bloggers

Blogger Alexander Callos September 22, 2015 6:53 PM  

It is immensely gratifying to see Robert E Howard fandom take such a stand.

I am no scholar of Mr Howard, but from reading his fiction I have a feeling he would have done the same.

OpenID Steve September 22, 2015 7:37 PM  

These people are almost beyond parody

Slaying the last of the ghouls that preyed upon the village Conan looked around to see a hook nosed crone come out of her hut. "Oy vey" said the Crone "You are intolerant, ghouls eating human flesh is part of their culture. We got along just fine appeasing them with the flesh of other peoples babies"~bgs

Blogger Chris Mallory September 22, 2015 7:42 PM  

Howard did include two strong females in his Conan stories, Belit and Valeria. But he had a very low opinion of nonwhites. Blacks are treated as little more than animals. Asians were mysterious and untrustworthy. It took deCamp and Carter to introduce a "vibrant" . The Lancer/Ace books got me hooked on Howard. But even as an early teen, deCamp and Carter's rewrites and diversity didn't seem to fit with Howard's works.

The Del Ray editions from 2003-2005 are good collections to have. Just Howard's works with none of the 60's SJ bull crap. http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/70593.Robert_E_Howard_Del_Rey_Collections

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 22, 2015 7:47 PM  

Interesting to watch the results of a counter insurgency against SJWs in action.

SJW entryism doesn't fail too often largely because they keep under the radar until they reach critical mass. Then they strike.

This time one was detected and nuked. In response another one immediately fled, firing off a lot distortions in his wake.

Vox was mentioned only in passing during this "rant" and yet he was the focus of the rebuttal. It was all about Vox.

We will need to gather data about how SJWs react when met with tactics from SAL.

The apparent first reaction to quashing SJW entryism is to proactively flee before being confronted and to try to do what damage they can while they are headed out the door.

But is this guy a one off or will they all behave like this when met with our counterinsurgency tactics?

Blogger ray September 22, 2015 7:51 PM  

"The wording of his rant in the first person plural makes it sound as though all of the other bloggers endorsed this action as well as the ideology of Vox Day."


I see evidence on this site of many things, not all positive. But there's no coherent ideology.

All the ideology has been inflicted by the punk Identicrats. They can't even think up new or relevant accusations. They just project their own cowardice, and worship of Goddess Ideo, onto others ... then assume they've made an argument.

Ten years in the lettuce fields, instead of pretending to Literary Acumen, might re-acquaint this daffodil with reality. Whatever, but keep him/it away from deciding what I can real. And out of my way.

Blogger Dexter September 22, 2015 7:54 PM  

OT but all the proto-SJWettes at Scripps should quit wasting their time and money and go have babies instead.

Scripps College, a private all-women's college in Southern California, is giving students ten pronoun options to choose from in their student portal accounts -- including "hu, hum, hus, himself," "Just My Name Please," and "None."

It's not clear what the hell students who choose "None" are supposed to be called, especially since "Name Only" is another option. Are they (oops! I said "they!") asking to not be spoken to at all? Because that sounds like a microaggression. The other eight options are "E/Ey, Em, Eir/Eirs, Eirself/Emse," "Per, Per, Per/Pers, Perself," "Zi, Hir/Hirs Hirself,” "Ze, Zir, Zir/Zirs, Zirself," "They, Them, Their/Theirs, Themse" (used as a singular pronoun) and -- yes -- the archaic "He, Him, His, Himself" or "Her, She, Hers, Herself.”:

Blogger GK Chesterton September 22, 2015 7:57 PM  

The "about" page is epic. Very well done. And the "[redacted]"s too.

Anyone know what the root offending posts were? How was she discovered?

I don't think they are aware of how big the puppy movement is in fandom. I think most puppies are quiet about it still.

Blogger Joseph Bloch September 22, 2015 7:59 PM  

Thanks for posting the link. I was wondering what the fuss was about. So he used the word "we" and now someone is pissing their pants about it. By Crom, what a ninny is this Shanks fellow.

And a coward, to boot. I saw a comment on his blog post by Vox Day that is now, mysteriously, gone.

Blogger AT September 22, 2015 8:01 PM  

Less than 2 hours and the comments are already disabled on the linked blog. So hard to deal with a reality intrusion.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian September 22, 2015 8:07 PM  

Posted to the lil puss' blog. See if he posts it.

In the meantime linked and posted:

http://conancimmerian.blogspot.com/2015/09/sjws-invade-cimmeria.html

Blogger Michael Maier September 22, 2015 8:11 PM  

HUZZAH!

Blogger LP999/S.I.G. September 22, 2015 8:20 PM  

Reads fine, whatever he wants, his content per his request.

Team Conan C, adorable baby puppies and team Vox.

SJW; same format minor changes in designs, same lies, same nonsense.

Blogger Lovekraft September 22, 2015 8:21 PM  

Conan drops the dripping skull of the final enemy, wipes his face with the back of his arm and approaches the prize: the princess Cyrrha who looks at him with both fear and anticipation.

The remainders of the sojowa tribe drop their weapons and bow before their new god. Conan forces a small smile, lifts the princess into his arms and before taking her into the chief's hut, takes a pause to step on the skull of his defeated foe.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 22, 2015 8:48 PM  

@12 Alexander Callos
It is immensely gratifying to see Robert E Howard fandom take such a stand.
----
REH fans have been fighting to keep his legacy safe since the days of L. Sprague de Camp pastiches.

I'm glad they caught this SJW too. Dumb SJW doesn't realize REH fandom has been fighting stupid things such as claiming REH was crazy.

Blogger Groot September 22, 2015 8:50 PM  

This comment has been removed by the author.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 22, 2015 8:51 PM  

@14 Chris Mallory
Howard did include two strong females in his Conan stories, Belit and Valeria. But he had a very low opinion of nonwhites. Blacks are treated as little more than animals. Asians were mysterious and untrustworthy. It took deCamp and Carter to introduce a "vibrant" . The Lancer/Ace books got me hooked on Howard. But even as an early teen, deCamp and Carter's rewrites and diversity didn't seem to fit with Howard's works.
---

Nothing will trigger REH fandoms ire like L. Sprague de Camp. It's been a while, but a while back it was generally thought Lin Carter had to write what the boss, LSDC, told him to write. Those pastiches are generally terrible compared to any of the original REH stories.

Blogger Groot September 22, 2015 8:51 PM  

Vox Popoli should institute and award Leo Grin a shiny new prize and mail him a trophy. What would be a good name? Something about REH?

SJWs Always Lie ... and this one lies here because I smote her ruin unto the mountaintop. He did remove all references to her (except this one) from his site, too: All searches for her name return an Error 404 (Page not found).

Blogger GK Chesterton September 22, 2015 8:54 PM  

Mail him a prize? Why not vote some essays of his for Best Related Work next year. The nice thing about it is given his temperament it would seem he would understand when we burn the award before giving it to him.

Blogger ScottD September 22, 2015 8:56 PM  

I don't think the comments on the linked blog are disabled, but they are being moderated. I just left this comment: "I would think that you, as an archaeologist, would be against erasing the past."

Blogger epobirs September 22, 2015 9:09 PM  

Perhaps he should be reminded what Howard had to say about barbarians and politeness.

Blogger maniacprovost September 22, 2015 9:12 PM  

Conan, what is best in life?
Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their neckbearded bloggers.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 22, 2015 9:19 PM  

Interesting to watch the results of a counter insurgency against SJWs in action. SJW entryism doesn't fail too often largely because they keep under the radar until they reach critical mass. This time one was detected and nuked. In response another one immediately fled, firing off a lot distortions in his wake.

An extremely interesting event, presaging a new pattern where normal human beings empowered by the information in SJWs Always Lie will increasingly prevail over SJW's. In the past it was difficult to explain how and why counter-action was necessary. SJWAL changes all that. As demonstrated here it explains evertything, and for that is an epochal book, every bit as important as the civilization-destroying "Rules for Radicals".

Blogger Karl September 22, 2015 9:49 PM  

we may have a potential hugo nominee for next year.

http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2015/09/21/dont-like-gays-in-star-wars-youre-a-homophobe/

Author Chuck Wendig strikes back at critics: "You’re the sh**ty, oppressive, totalitarian Empire.”

Addressing those who complained about his gay characters, Wendig wrote: “Sorry, you squawking saurian -- meteor’s coming. And it’s a fabulously gay Nyan Cat meteor with a rainbow trailing behind it and your mode of thought will be extinct.”

hmmmm. Ok lets see what else he's written.

500 Ways To Be A Better Writer
Chuck Wendig

500 Ways To Tell A Better Story
Chuck Wendig

500 More Ways To Be A Better Writer
Chuck Wendig

500 Ways To Write Harder
Chuck Wendig

and these are endorsed by college creative writing professors.

I teach creative writing in college and any prof. will tell you that college kids don't give a flying flip what you tell them sometimes, especially when it comes to creative writing.

Yet, when this guy says it in his book, my students listen. I've used a few pieces in class and even my emo, I-am-sad-and-I-will-write-whatever-I-want students perk up.

and finally an example of his prose from the book:

"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops — it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight.”

Blogger FALPhil September 22, 2015 10:03 PM  

@30 Mine made it up for about 10 minutes before he took it down. If you want to call him on it on twitter, he goes by @jeffshanks.

Blogger Danby September 22, 2015 10:10 PM  

500 ways to write that will impress your creative writing instructor.

Blogger Chiva September 22, 2015 10:13 PM  

"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops — it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight.”

Wibbles? That is high fluten English right there.

Blogger Student in Blue September 22, 2015 10:19 PM  

high fluten
highfalutin.

/sperg

Blogger Achilles September 22, 2015 10:19 PM  

Robert E Howard thought society was too decadent and men too weak back in the 1930's Texas. His disgust for SJWs would be palpable were he alive today. Whatever happened to Leo Grin? I enjoyed his articles on Breitbart.

Blogger Russell (106) September 22, 2015 10:25 PM  

One Sith.
Two Sith.
A wibbly wobbly Sith.

Blogger Koanic September 22, 2015 10:30 PM  

The award should be named:

"SJWs Always Lie Defeated"

And feature Conan-esque guy atop pile of dead bearded dudes in dresses.

Blogger Krul September 22, 2015 10:46 PM  

"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops — it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight."

"Cluck-cluck, jibber-jibber, my old man's a mushroom, et cetera"

Blogger bob k. mando September 22, 2015 10:59 PM  

17. Dexter September 22, 2015 7:54 PM
(oops! I said "they!")


which contains the pre-op transexual oppressive 'he', you cis-gender shitlord.

Blogger Doom September 22, 2015 11:02 PM  

You do realize that SJW's operate exactly the way muslims operate. It is the exact same pre and pro scriptions. Not sure if you realized that. Hey, actually, just a bit of retooling and you could get a twofer on your book. That might just open a few more eyes, cause a few more eyebrows to lift. But, hey, if the idea is novel, any chance at an idea finders fee? I'm hungry.

SJW's or cuckservatives unplugged my freezer while I was out. I know, $500 in food is chump to some folks. It's a small fortune to me. Just... a thought. :p (No, not serious, I'll make it on my own.)

Blogger Harmon September 23, 2015 12:07 AM  

Well, I googled around, & have not been able to find out what exactly this woman did to bring down the Wrath of Leo on her head. I'd kinda like to see what the fight is about...does anyone have links?

OpenID Jack Amok September 23, 2015 12:11 AM  

He even managed to smoke out a second SJW entryist by doing so. I'll have to make note of that.

Indeed. I might even think it justifies an occasional sock-anti-puppet. Create a sock-puppet that spews SJWisms, boot the sock puppet, and see who rises to the defense of the puppet. Like sending out a fake IFF signal to see who pings back.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 12:23 AM  

@34 Karl September

"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops — it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight.”
---

Please tell me that is narrated by Jar Jar...

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 12:30 AM  

@39 Achilles
Robert E Howard thought society was too decadent and men too weak back in the 1930's Texas. His disgust for SJWs would be palpable were he alive today. Whatever happened to Leo Grin? I enjoyed his articles on Breitbart.
---

One of his over arching themes throughout is civilization vs barbarism. For a good example, check out Queen of the Black Coast for an amusing story of Conan being hauled before a judge in some city. He also gives a classic speech later when Belit asks him what he believes - Basically he leaves philosophy and the gods aside as he seeks out wine, women, red meat and battle.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 12:43 AM  

"An increasingly fervent proponent of feminist thought-policing and Codes of Conduct since entering this overwhelmingly male and non-ideological field several years ago, Barrett has recently weaponized her rhetoric in an attempted ISOLATION and DISQUALIFICATION of the most revered Sword-and-Sorcery expert in pulp fandom: former Official Editor of REHupa Morgan Holmes. His crime? Associating with Hugo-nominated fantasy author and longtime social justice critic Vox Day (A Throne of Bones, The Last Witchking, et al), thus violating Barrett’s cultish SJW narrative."

"Unleashing a coordinated assault against Holmes and Day in not one but two separate print a.p.a.s — REHupa (The Robert E. Howard United Press Association) and PEAPS (The Pulp Era Amateur Press Society) — Barrett followed the SJW ATTACK SEQUENCE to the letter:

Step #1 — Locate or Create Violation of the Narrative: ENACTED
Step #2 — Point-and-Shriek: ENACTED
Step #3 — Isolate and Swarm: ATTEMPTED (inexplicably the requisite mob of weak men needed to support her strong feminism has failed to materialize).
In service to her hoary “racism! sexism! homophobia!” attacks, Barrett fell back numerous times on the Three Rules of SJW:

---

So the place to look is recent REHupa and PEAPS.

"in not one but two separate print a.p.a.s"

I don't know exactly what this means, but it is possible this was in print only.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 12:51 AM  

Interesting, it looks like more than one was smoked out.

http://theblogthattimeforgot.blogspot.com/

http://marktheaginghipster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/re-cimmerian-blog-archive-and-website.html

Blogger Daniel September 23, 2015 1:12 AM  

Yep. Good ol' Leo just went Solomon Kane on the demonic SJW asses of insane, reprehensible people who write tripe like tripe like this. I'm starting to wonder if he shut down the original archive in small part to head off the idiocy at the pass.

Choke on it, you patsies. Red Sonja is a fun gal, but she is one of REH's minor characters, and she is magically endowed.

i.e. Real women aren't like that, and never will be.

OpenID crash September 23, 2015 1:39 AM  

Am I missing something ?
Looked over at the blog and it hasn't been active for five years ?
Is the SJW trying to practice necromancy ?

A win is a win though and it's good to see the tactics from the book successfully employed.

Blogger Mint September 23, 2015 3:00 AM  

Somebody should send SJWAL to this lawyer accused of sexism by a barrister who contacted him first to connect through Linkedln.

Proudman said she had named Carter-Silk because she believed the public interest in exposing the “eroticisation of women’s physical appearance” by an influential and senior lawyer was greater than his right to privacy.

“If people don’t experience the repercussions for their actions, which are plainly wrong, then their behaviour will not change, and neither will sexist culture,” she wrote. “All too often, women are afraid to speak up about these small but significant comments on their appearance, which happen every single day.”

Blogger ScuzzaMan September 23, 2015 3:26 AM  

I especially appreciated the meta-comment on SJW entryism via rule-setting...

OpenID Jack Amok September 23, 2015 3:48 AM  

I especially appreciated the meta-comment on SJW entryism via rule-setting...

404. As is most of the REHupa site (maybe everything but the home page). Failed necromancy roll?

Blogger bob k. mando September 23, 2015 8:11 AM  

53. Mint September 23, 2015 3:00 AM
Somebody should send SJWAL to this lawyer accused of sexism by a barrister



meh. the idiot "invited the demon in".

‘I appreciate that this is probably horrendously politically incorrect but that is a stunning picture!!!! You definitely win the prize for the best LinkedIn picture I have ever seen.’

given the evidence available, my suspicion is that HE is an SJW of the Scalzi "caught myself creeping on her" type. only, you know, more manly, because he's a lawyer.


you'll notice also that typical English barrister attire for males has long included either floor length robes or, at a minimum, full slacks. notice that this is true even for the women in this picture:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/07/article-2534669-1A73BB3B00000578-452_634x500.jpg



notice anything about her pic?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/09/23/2C1EA14B00000578-0-image-m-40_1441838296621.jpg


wouldn't surprise me if Alexander is of that peculiar English male sub-type, the social dominant / sexual submissive, like Mosley.


Blogger VFM bot #188 September 23, 2015 8:28 AM  

Wrong attitude, bob k. The guy is innocent. By attacking him you empower the SJW's. He's deserving of support from normal people against the vicious little witch, as is anyone. May her entire career be marked by this episode, and destroyed.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown September 23, 2015 8:39 AM  

@25 "Dumb SJW doesn't realize REH fandom has been fighting stupid things such as claiming REH was crazy."

Dumb doesn't even begin to describe this. Honestly, what the hell were these morons thinking? Has there ever been an author/character combination more diametrically opposed to all that SJWs hold sacred than REH/Conan?

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown September 23, 2015 8:48 AM  

This comment has been removed by the author.

OpenID techdouchebaggery September 23, 2015 9:04 AM  

A literal invasion of Cimmeria by SJWs would be something to behold. I doubt Conan would check his privilege with them. The invasion would last about five minutes.

That could be a nice satirical story. I doubt Tor-dot-com would publish it.

Blogger Mint September 23, 2015 9:09 AM  

She shows a lot more body parts. Her ankles are openly exposed.

I have a limited knowledge on socio sexual type, so I would not know to connect his behaviour to what you call 'peculiar English male sub-type'.

I have a similar experience today albeit in face to face interaction, not online. A man almost as old as my dad complimented me. I smiled. I do not think the man is submissive at all. He is straight forward saying what he has in mind, confidentially teasing me while at it. Is it any different in western culture? Maybe I am just not familiar with how male-female interaction works in western culture.


Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 9:27 AM  

@51 Daniel

Choke on it, you patsies. Red Sonja is a fun gal, but she is one of REH's minor characters, and she is magically endowed.
---

Actually, Red Sonja is a creation of Roy Thomas. But S&S fans sure do love her anyway :P

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau September 23, 2015 9:51 AM  

I can't imagine why any SJW would want to add to an REH blog or any other author from the pulp era. The Triggering must be intense. The seem to be attracted to Howard, Doc Smith, Lovecraft et al in some subconscious desire to be a Damsel in Distress.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 9:56 AM  

@58 Gunnar von Cowtown
@25 "Dumb SJW doesn't realize REH fandom has been fighting stupid things such as claiming REH was crazy."

Dumb doesn't even begin to describe this. Honestly, what the hell were these morons thinking? Has there ever been an author/character combination more diametrically opposed to all that SJWs hold sacred than REH/Conan
---

Exactly, and not just Conan. Pretty much all of his massive amount of stories in all genres.

The primitive SJW types, as noted before, began their attacks on REH legacy back when the pastiches began coming out. So this is nothing new to that part of fandom.

The basic idea is, he was stupid, crazy or whatever, so we need to fix these stories. You know the familiar refrain, sexist, homophobic, racist!

I remember a big uproar when a more recent book, "...and their memory was a bitter tree..." came out. Due to the forward which had such things as

"When reading these adventures it should be remembered that these are artifacts of their time, reflecting Howard's narrow attitudes and prejudices towards women and other races."

We also know that he committed suicide shortly after his mother had passed away. They use that to try and come up with all this pyscho babble to "prove" he was crazy.

It's been a few years since I was really paying close attention, but this was definitely a thing, back in the mid 2000's, where any hint of this type of stuff would unleash some serious push back.

This whole topic has brought back a lot of memories of those times. They really fit the SJWAL perfectly, as what we were experiencing was the attempt to locate and identify an infraction. I never saw it reach the point and shriek stage, but now I can see it was inevitable.

I'm proud of those guys for staying so vigilant to prevent this incursion of those damn SJW.

"And survivors of butchered Stygian ships named Belit with curse, and a white warrior with fierce blue eyes; so the Stygian princes remembered this man long and long, and their memory was a bitter tree which bore crimson fruit in the years to come."
-- REH from Queen of the Black Coast

Let's give these SJW clowns many bitter memory.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 10:06 AM  

@63 Skylark Thibedeau
I can't imagine why any SJW would want to add to an REH blog or any other author from the pulp era. The Triggering must be intense. The seem to be attracted to Howard, Doc Smith, Lovecraft et al in some subconscious desire to be a Damsel in Distress.
---

Oh man, HPL is another one they go after with gusto. They have their own bunch of war tales they can share.

I guess they think it's easy because these authors are dead white males. But they don't realize many many fans so love the stories that they will fight for the legacy of these guys.

Really, if you go back to HPL, where would there be room for a Hello Kitty Chtulu or a beanie baby Cthulu? In some of those tales, if the name of one of those entities was spoken, it could create a reality altering disaster event.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown September 23, 2015 10:15 AM  

@64 Were-Puppy, thanks for bringing me up to date. File under "SJWs always double down".

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau September 23, 2015 10:54 AM  

Half Correct @62 Red Sonja was a character in a Howard story set during the Siege of Vienna in 1682. Thomas made her into a decent character in Conan #15 I believe. Shortly thereafter she became the Chainmail Bikini Babe so easily parodied by Cerebus the Aardvark

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 10:58 AM  

That wasn't Red Sonja. IIRC, it was Dark Agnes. And I think there was some discussion a while back if he came up with that one after reading Jirel of Joiry? Not entirely positive about that last part.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau September 23, 2015 11:05 AM  

"Shadow of the Vulture" Red Sonya is a Ukrainian Mercenary at the first siege of Vienna in 1526 not the second. Sidekick to one of Conan's probable descendants the Hapsburg Knight Gottfried von Kalmbach who wounded the Sultan at the battle of Mohecs. Sister to Suleiman's favorite harem Girl Roxanne.

In the story she is pretty bad ass. She saves Gottfried's bacon several times.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau September 23, 2015 11:09 AM  

You're right I see the squib about Roy and Dark Agnes on Wikipedia.

Blogger bob k. mando September 23, 2015 4:39 PM  

57. VFM bot #188 September 23, 2015 8:28 AM
Wrong attitude, bob k. The guy is innocent. By attacking him you empower the SJW's.



a - i did NOT attack him

b - more likely than not, this clown IS AN SJW. you'd have to investigate the legal work he and his firm are doing, but lawyers skew heavily SJW in the first place.

c - go on and send him a copy then, why don't you?


57. VFM bot #188 September 23, 2015 8:28 AM
The guy is innocent.



hah, NO.

he's a partner at a large legal firm. he's definitely social / wealth / power Extrinsic Alpha, is probably an Intrinsic Alpha as well.

whether he avails himself of the opportunity or not, he's got tarts trolling their sweet little asses past him all the time. HE KNOWS WHAT THE GAME IS.

remember, she COLD CALLED him out of the blue. what his reply was, was a Game teasing reply to feel her out. which, given that she's inappropriately flashing leg in her barristers robes, she's almost certainly up for.

what went wrong is anybody's guess. maybe she doesn't like him? why did she message him then? more likely, she was gossiping with one of her hard fem girlfriends, showed her the message, and started one of Jim's Holiness spirals and wound up talking herself into 'outing' a guy she could have just given a cold shoulder too.

here, try flipping the sex of the supplicant:
what would you expect to happen if a recent *male* graduate cold called / emailed the head of a large firm?

having pics in his portfolio of himself in barristers robes and Angus Young schoolboy shorts?

you think that man is going to receive any reply at all? ( assuming this is not BGS receiving the message )

fuck no.

it's highly doubtful that any mentally competent man would even bother with the cold calling. he's going to have to do this the hard way, networking his way in and demonstrating his legal chops.

it's only attractive women who can, ahem, pole vault to the head of a company AND EXPECT ANY RESPONSE AT ALL.



61. Mint September 23, 2015 9:09 AM
I do not think the man is submissive at all.



i didn't assert that he was.

i said that it "would not surprise me".

i made the reference to Max Mosley specifically because no one would have expected him to be a sub in the bedroom either. former Formula 1 driver ( from the 60s, when avg life expectancy of a racer was <5yrs on the circuit. as in, you retire in a casket. as in, only "real men" even strapped themselves into the bombs-on-wheels ), at the time a major authority figure in the admin of F1, nobody expected good ol Max to appreciate some hearty bondage with a whipped topping.

F1 being a billion dollar corporation in the 2000s, Max was a Master of the Universe when he got outed.

Blogger VFM bot #188 September 23, 2015 5:01 PM  

57. VFM bot #188 September 23, 2015 8:28 AM
The guy is innocent.

bob k.: hah, NO. he's a partner at a large legal firm. he's definitely social / wealth / power Extrinsic Alpha, is probably an Intrinsic Alpha as well.


So? Lots of people on this list are intrinsic and extrinsic Alphas; no reason to attack them for it.

But I did misspeak: I should have said "the guy is innocent until proven guilty." If he's an SJW, fuck 'im. If he's a normal male complimenting a good looking chick who contacted him, so what?

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2015 7:28 PM  

@69 Skylark Thibedeau
"Shadow of the Vulture" Red Sonya is a Ukrainian Mercenary at the first siege of Vienna in 1526 not the second. Sidekick to one of Conan's probable descendants the Hapsburg Knight Gottfried von Kalmbach who wounded the Sultan at the battle of Mohecs. Sister to Suleiman's favorite harem Girl Roxanne.

In the story she is pretty bad ass. She saves Gottfried's bacon several times.
----

After we were discussing this, I got very interested and looked on my REH shelf. There are a few that I haven't read yet, and I found a compilation called "Sword Woman and Other Historical Adventures." I'm going to dig into that one right away.

Blogger bob k. mando September 23, 2015 10:46 PM  

72. VFM bot #188 September 23, 2015 5:01 PM
Lots of people on this list are intrinsic and extrinsic Alphas; no reason to attack them for it.


http://memegenerator.net/instance2/2046679

Post a Comment

Rules of the blog
Please do not comment as "Anonymous". Comments by "Anonymous" will be spammed.

<< Home

Newer Posts Older Posts