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Sunday, October 18, 2015

Cucky churchians

It's not merely cuckservatives who are betraying their nations. And not just Americans. Plenty of liberals and Europeans are more than a little cucky too:
A group of 84 bishops have written to Prime Minister David Cameron urging him to allow more Syrian refugees to settle in Britain, a published letter showed.

The call comes days after 300 senior lawyers, former law lords and retired judges described Cameron’s offer to take 20,000 Syrian refugees over five years as “too low, too slow and too narrow”.

The Church of England bishops called on Cameron to accept 50,000 over five years, in a letter initially sent privately in September but made public following a “disheartening” lack of response from Cameron.

“As the fighting intensifies, as the sheer scale of human misery becomes greater, the government’s response seems increasingly inadequate to meet the scale and severity of the problem,” said Bishop of Durham Paul Butler, speaking on behalf of the bishops.

“It is disheartening that we have not received any substantive reply despite an assurance from the prime minister that one would be received.”
Not that there is any doubt that the Church of England deserves to fade into irrelevance, but it's a pity they can't limit the damage they've done to their own vanishing church.

UPDATE: These idiots aren't just idiots, they're complete hypocrites:
The Bishop of Manchester, the Right Rev David Walker, urged ordinary people to welcome asylum seekers from the war-torn country and said it would be ‘a sad reflection’ on society if they did not. He claimed, however, that it would be wrong for a refugee family to move into his own recently refurbished house because of the language barrier and their ‘alien culture’.
He ought to be sent to Syria as a missionary. Forcibly, if need be.

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43 Comments:

Blogger Crude October 18, 2015 5:25 PM  

84 bishops, eh?

How about a deal: the church can take in up to 50k refugees. They must be housed in the bishops' personal property, or those of volunteering parishioners. They cannot have an apartment or property rented for them. The bishops and laity will be held liable for damages of any criminal acts committed by the refugees.

Unworkable legally I'm sure, but I'd love to see what would happen.

Blogger Dave October 18, 2015 5:42 PM  

The bishops and laity will be held liable for damages of any criminal acts committed by the refugees.

We all know this will never happen but the least we can do is never allow them to forget the inevitable violence and abuse they are inviting upon their own fellow citizens.

Blogger RobertT October 18, 2015 5:58 PM  

#1. "Unworkable legally I'm sure..."

Everything's workable if you get the paperwork right.

Blogger RobertT October 18, 2015 5:58 PM  

#1. "Unworkable legally I'm sure..."

Everything's workable if you get the paperwork right.

Blogger Phillip George October 18, 2015 6:01 PM  

What happened in WWII; take back France, take back Germany, bomb it to rubble if necessary but then go in and rebuild, and civilise a conquered people.

What are these leaders saying now. Syria belongs to ISIS because they told us so!

Islam is half the problem yes. But the bigger 50 percent is a leadership who really cannot grasp a difference between Muhammad and Jesus. It's beyond bat shit crazy.

Elsewhere today Kissinger is saying destroy ISIS now. ie. defund your little proxy army and start again.

Out of 700 million Europeans are there less than a dozen with any concept of "take it back"/ "rebuild it" "make it habitable for a child to grow up in"?

OpenID karsten0 October 18, 2015 6:09 PM  

"What happened in WWII; take back France, take back Germany, bomb it to rubble if necessary but then go in and rebuild, and civilise a conquered people."

Talk about lunacy. I can't believe anyone could write the above obscenity with a straight face.

"Civilise," eh? In other words, brainwash them so thoroughly with guilt and cultural Marxist that they're effectively lobotomized and incapable of even resisting their own dispossession; no, more than that, that they eagerly accept their own race replacement and basically commit national suicide, even demanding that the rest of Europe follow them into oblivion.

Contrast that with the pre-"civilised" Germans, who would have pushed any and all parasitic invaders and fifth columnists among themselves into the sea.

Would that Europe still had a few more non-"civilised" Germans. It might have actually survived this invasion.

Thank you very much, ((((civilisers)))).

Blogger Cail Corishev October 18, 2015 6:30 PM  

So 20,000 is so few it calls for public criticism, but 50,000 is just right? Who wants to bet if Cameron had offered to take 50,000, they'd be calling for 100,000 or more? Is there any number they would say is too high?

I assume there are very few Anglican Syrians, so they can't even be accused of trying to fill their empty pews like some American Catholic bishops. This is just plain cultural suicide.

Blogger Phillip George October 18, 2015 6:33 PM  

karsten0 - have you ever sat and talked with people whose great great grand parents were cannibals? You think your 1930's Germany was any tribute to Martin Luther's perhaps? Third, do you believe anyone's gospel? cheers friend.

Blogger rcocean October 18, 2015 6:52 PM  

"Who wants to bet if Cameron had offered to take 50,000, they'd be calling for 100,000 or more? Is there any number they would say is too high?"

Exactly. OTOH, the C-of-E is such a joke I don't think it will have any impact at all. Its like the Unitarians or Quakers in the USA, they've been so far Left for so long they are literally preaching to their tiny choir.

Blogger rcocean October 18, 2015 6:53 PM  

Fortunately, for England they don't have a border with 100 million Mexicans, otherwise they'd be pressing 2 for English.

Blogger Doom October 18, 2015 6:57 PM  

Since when has any hellbound wanted, or ever offered, to go alone? Hitler even planned to murder his beautiful Berliners. These monsters never want to pay the price or go alone. Next you will be suggesting that Satan admit he is wrong, even as he moves forward with his plans. You have the logic to design games. Turn this into a game, using their logic, then follow it through. Actually, that might make for a spiffy game. Title it "Highway to Hell". There might even be a jingle or three for it, ready to go. Is there a queer quartet to transform the jingle? No charges. And it really might sell with the SJW crowd, if you... keep your name out of it.

I really should charge.

Blogger Sheila4g October 18, 2015 7:26 PM  

It's as heartbreaking to see what's become of the Anglican Church as it is to see what's become of England itself. We left ours, even after it left the national church due to homosexuality, after the priest's sermons became too folksy and he "rethought" his position on female priests. The "orthodox" Episcopal Churches we've visited (i.e. without female priests) might as well have been Catholic, heavy on the Latin and with lots of incense (and with all due respect, we're not Catholic and that's not what we're looking for). I'll always be an Anglican in my heart, but can no longer find a place to corporately worship.

Blogger Soga October 18, 2015 7:29 PM  

The worst part of it is that the cucks claim that what they do, they do out of the "Christian goodness of their hearts". So if you point out the error in their logic, they'll fall back to claiming that you're criticizing this "Christian goodness", which means you're criticizing God. Ergo, you're not a Christian.

It's "nice" to call for 50k dirty migrants over 20k, because well, don't you feel bad for all these migrants without a home or a hearth, or a Christian within 10 miles to osmosize Christianity right into their souls? And you know, it's just WRONG for these poor, unfortunate third-world souls to not have free handout cell phones! This is 2015, you know! We've done away with scarcity! The third world is the third world because we're greedy white people (aka eternal, unforgivable sinners), etc. etc. etc.

Naturally, the correct rhetorical response is as some others above have pointed out: tell the bishops to house the migrants themselves and among the laity. You would see the laity revolt against the bishops SO FAST if they did that.

After all, if you won't open your own house to the migrants, why are you expecting other people to do it in your stead? Call them evil, selfish people for not volunteering their own properties to house migrants.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica October 18, 2015 7:51 PM  

I call this the Crazy Cat Lady Syndrome. Europe, it's Churches, and the Progressives are a lonely old lady who lives in a big house that she inherited from her parents and who has just a big enough pension to live on, but she keeps on taking in cat after cat because she has a strong desire to save them all (as well as signal to others just what a good person she is.) The cats she already has aren't too happy about her behavior, or about having to share their dwindling resources with the newer cats, but they have very little say in the matter. It isn't long before the Little Old Lady is found dead in her own house, coated with urine and feces, corpse devoured by the very hordes she invited in. Her house is unlivable and ALL of her cats are in an appalling state. The little old lady could have prevented this if she had just been able to realize the deteriorating state of her house and health and had been able to resist her pathologically altruistic impulses, but that's like trying to tell a paranoid schizophrenic that the Lizard Men from Mars AREN'T trying to beam thought-control laser beams into his head. The only way to save the Little Old Lady is for some outside force to take control of her finances and make her give up her extra cats. I wonder if there is any force in this world strong enough to impose this kind of action in the Western World today.

Blogger M Cephas October 18, 2015 8:17 PM  

Liberals that are more than a little cucky.

Isn't that a little redundant?

Blogger Cecil Henry October 18, 2015 8:24 PM  

This is why I can't go to my former Presbyterian church.

It doesnt preach the gospel, it preaches socialism, anti-white cultural marxism and one worldism in place of God.

And it refuses to admit it. But I can see through it.

This angers and saddens me greatly. There are few real Christian churches left.

'Come out and separate yourself from her, my people.'

Blogger Phillip George October 18, 2015 8:33 PM  

So a major step in reclaiming actual physical territory is reclaiming mental space. It would be a major breakthrough to get a 'Bishop' to acknowledge that there was such a thing as an 'unsaved muslim'.
Boundaries start with intellectual conceptions. If a 'Bishop' doesn't think Jesus knew what He was talking about who is the Bishop talking on behalf of? - the West, the Anglican Church, themselves alone.
Product differentiation is arguably the first step in selling anything..

Being generous with other people's money without their express consent, overt agreement, definite mandate was once considered theft. And stealing remains listed in biblical law, unless they have changed theirs. Is the Bishop a well dressed thief.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 18, 2015 8:48 PM  

Bishops in the Church of England are appointed by the PrimeMinister. I'm betting a good chunk of these bishops were appointed by Tony Blair.

I am so very, very grateful that the Founders did not found a Church of the United States of America.



Just imagine the kind of bishops Barack Hussein Obama would have appointed.

Blogger James Dixon October 18, 2015 8:52 PM  

> The "orthodox" Episcopal Churches we've visited (i.e. without female priests) might as well have been Catholic, heavy on the Latin and with lots of incense

If you're ever near Leesburg, VA, check out the Church of Our Savior at Oatlands.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 18, 2015 8:54 PM  

Bishops in the Church of England are appointed by the PrimeMinister. I'm betting a good chunk of these bishops were appointed by Tony Blair.

I am so very, very grateful that the Founders did not found a Church of the United States of America.



Just imagine the kind of bishops Barack Hussein Obama would have appointed.

Blogger ray October 18, 2015 8:55 PM  

Satan's bishops appeal to satan's PM to fix the world, not really heh just kidding.

World remains unfixed. Whoda thunk?

Blogger ray October 18, 2015 9:16 PM  

"What happened in WWII; take back France, take back Germany, bomb it to rubble if necessary but then go in and rebuild, and civilise a conquered people."


That America is long gone. Over the past four decades, the U.S. spearheaded the globalist policies and ideologies that corrupt and destroy civilization -- secularism and humanism, feminism, open borders/erosion of national sovereignties, statist 'religion' etc.

Who is going to civilize the unruly? New Babylon? lol

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother October 18, 2015 9:51 PM  

What happened in WW2 paved the way for Europe today.

WAKE UP

Blogger Groot October 18, 2015 10:21 PM  

In the forest where I set roots, the only Forrest Bishops I know comment on this blog.

I am hoot.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother October 18, 2015 10:48 PM  

No. You are Groot.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 18, 2015 10:51 PM  

@18

Don't have to imagine. Jeremiah Wright, Flager, etc.

Blogger KC9ZNR October 18, 2015 11:12 PM  

Not that there is any doubt that the Church of England deserves to fade into irrelevance...

Just this afternoon I read J.C. Philpot's letter of resignation from the Church of England, dated March 28, 1835. Seems their decline has dragged on for a good long while now. I'm surprised the institution hasn't disappeared already.

Blogger Sioux October 18, 2015 11:55 PM  

Let me get this straight - the USA along with the usual suspects in Europe have made a bloody mess in the Middle East and North Africa, and are now trying to ruin the last few sovereign moderate nations such as Syria and then take in their "refugees" to make amends. Blood boiling, head exploding...this cannot continue on any level.

Blogger Daniel Babylon October 19, 2015 12:13 AM  

On the topic of Christian love and immigration: would it also count as love if you wanted all peoples to be happy and safe-- but in their OWN nation?

Blogger Josh October 19, 2015 12:33 AM  

There is no groot but groot

Blogger Crude October 19, 2015 12:53 AM  

On the topic of Christian love and immigration: would it also count as love if you wanted all peoples to be happy and safe-- but in their OWN nation?

Yeah, there's always this admonishment that people in country X have to take care of these poor refugees and migrants, but the interest in sending them back home and helping them -there- is zero.

Blogger Phillip George October 19, 2015 3:08 AM  

/true story, I sat talking to a Lebanese muslim immigrant to Australia last night. He told me "we" have to support Muslim Brotherhood or extremist groups like Hezbollah will take over.
The underlying premise was, well, one form of Islam is going to take over so get used to supporting moderates.

Now Lebanese origin Muslims wouldn't be one percent of Australia. But their sense of entitlement is already 100 percent Muslim complete.

A main stream media observer reporter would read this and say these are the comments of a white privilege right wing extremist. But really "white right wing extremist element" in the main stream media roughly equates to anyone who isn't prepared to suck a muslim dick. I'm rendering this in the vernacular / lingua franca, because stating the obvious, in POE's LAW again, parody can't quite keep up with reality. cheers,

Blogger Phillip George October 19, 2015 3:24 AM  

??Future Guardian headline: Right wing extremist refuses to be pack raped, cites Islamophobia in her defence, over-ruled by the Crown.- yeah, that's roughly where the news is at.
When the world is ruled by moderates. run.

Blogger Desiderius October 19, 2015 4:26 AM  

Local News actually had a hard-hitting, accurate report on Benghazi hearings tonight, complete with quote from Sharyl Atkinson. First time I can remember something like that in at least 15 years.

Blogger Thordaddy October 19, 2015 6:10 AM  

Modern "white" male's "highest value" when oppressed by theocracy is the "right" to self-annihilation.

Modern male Christian's "highest value" when suppressed by modernism is the "right" to self-annihilate for "salvation."

Together, these two collectives form a symbiotic regression. Each relentlessly accusing the other side of expanding their totalitarian influence on all thus rationalizing a mutual self-annihilation.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 19, 2015 7:18 AM  

On the topic of Christian love and immigration: would it also count as love if you wanted all peoples to be happy and safe-- but in their OWN nation?

No, it's only loving because the Good Samaritan takes the beaten man back to Samaria and provides him with a home and a job there. Paying for his doctoring and room and board in his own country would be racist and unloving, and no Christian could support such hateful treatment.

Blogger Durandel Almiras October 19, 2015 7:49 AM  

Not only that, Cail, but how cruel is it to desyroy the Syrians by spreading them out all over the world? What will happen to their blood line, their culture, their history?

I like to use that and ask the bleeding heart importers why they want to eradicate the Syrian people over time. Pointing out that bringing them here is the easy out for causing troubles over there. Makes a few of them squirm.

On a recent flight, I sat next to a Syrian woman, Eastern Rite Catholic. We had a good back-and-forth conversation about the issue. Biggest fear of hers was the slow destruction of her people as they spread out over the world while Assad and ISIL carve up their homeland. As an Armenian, I can sympathize with her on that as that was the sadness and fear of my grabdparents who fled Turkey. She also mentioned that Western media lies a lot, as most of the refugees fleeing into Europe were not Syrian. In fact, she was on the flight to drum up donations to help support Syrian refugees... in camps in Jordan.

Blogger Durandel Almiras October 19, 2015 7:57 AM  

What kills me Vox, is why was it that the call for immigration didn't come from the Church hierarcies while videos of Christians being slaughtered by ISIS were being posted in rapid succession? Why wait to roll out the red carpet once the Christians were dead and the Muslims start banging on the door?

If you are going to import a people's, import people who share your values, goals, ethics and morals. If a call to help them by importing them was to go out, it should have been for Middle Eastern Christians to find refuge from Islam.

OpenID karsten0 October 19, 2015 9:23 AM  

"have you ever sat and talked with people whose great great grand parents were cannibals? You think your 1930's Germany was any tribute to Martin Luther's perhaps? Third, do you believe anyone's gospel? cheers friend."

Do you intentionally write nonsense?

(a) Cannibals? What do the cannibals have to do with anything? Misdirect #1

(b) Martin Luther? Again, what does Martin Luther have to do with anything? Misdirect #2.

(c) An ad-hominem question about my own religiosity? Misdirect #3.

Don't try to divert this into irrelevant channels and make it a discussion about cannibalism, Martin Luther, or religion. The pertinent facts are this:

-the Germans (and the Europeans more broadly) are in the process of being race-replaced
-the NSDAP would have stopped this
-the Germans today are pointedly NOT stopping this but abetting it, due to the brainwashing program that was imposed on them after WWII
-you call that national-suicide-inducing brainwashing program "civilising the Germans"
-I say, correctly, that that "civilising" program was, rather, the most poisonous scheme ever inflicted upon a people, as it makes them will their own eradication and the eradication of everyone else of their own race -- as current events show
-ergo, it would have been better for all of Europe if the Germans had never been thus "civilised" (translation: brainwashing into desiring their own elimination)

OpenID Steve October 19, 2015 1:15 PM  

"white right wing extremist element" in the main stream media roughly equates to anyone who isn't prepared to suck a muslim dick

Anderson Cooper orders hand wipes by the ton because moslems don't wash.-BGS

Why wait to roll out the red carpet once the Christians

Refugee Resettlement Watch covered this a while back. The moslems would kill the US taxpayer paid refugee contractors if they took Christians to the land of free stuff instead of moslems that behead gays. We could have removed every Christian from Somalia, leaving not minority to be oppressed but we took moslems instead. When Doctors Without Borders pulled out of Somalia it was after 200 employees died over things like treating a non moslem woman who had been gang raped before a moslem with scratches on his face.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/15/world/africa/doctors-without-borders-to-pull-out-of-somalia.html?_r=0

Cannibals? What do the cannibals have to do with anything? Misdirect #1 During the Holodomor jewish Bolsheviks told white Russian Christians that they where not starving if they are not eating their children.

Blogger Phillip George October 20, 2015 4:31 AM  

karsten0

every 'western' country is self immolating. nothing unique about Germany. ps. there was a war over poland, Denmark, Holland,france etc. If you had have kept the 3rd Reich to Germany Austria Bavaria I think the world might have applauded long and loud. cheers.

Blogger Phillip George October 20, 2015 4:37 AM  

karsten0 look at the banner on this page. It is about the church. that's the headline topic. Luther's Germany, the Gutenberg Press, the Frankfurt philosophy schools and rank higher criticism, Germany leading the protestant world once, modernism, historical revisionism - it's all in the "civilisation" matrix.

step one, you are talking to someone who believes in Jesus physical bodily resurrection from three days of literal pulseless brain dead death. the banner,again, is the church.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 20, 2015 12:45 PM  

@32
"/true story, I sat talking to a Lebanese muslim immigrant to Australia last night. He told me "we" have to support Muslim Brotherhood or extremist groups like Hezbollah will take over.
The underlying premise was, well, one form of Islam is going to take over so get used to supporting moderates.

Now Lebanese origin Muslims wouldn't be one percent of Australia. But their sense of entitlement is already 100 percent Muslim complete."

It's a shit test.

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