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Monday, October 19, 2015

Who raped Miss Liberty?


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92 Comments:

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 8:17 AM  

what?

no room for Carter or Teddy or Wilson?

Blogger Jemison Thorsby October 19, 2015 8:23 AM  

Ted Kennedy has to be in the lineup.

Blogger VD October 19, 2015 8:27 AM  

Ted Kennedy has to be in the lineup.

Breaking news: Ted Kennedy is dead. Also, he was not a U.S. President. Wilson is dead. Carter could be on there, as could Reagan, but they are irrelevant to anyone under 40. Bush 41 is only relevant due to his sons.

Also, when I want advice from the sperg crowd, I'll ask for it.

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 8:48 AM  

breaking news: Reagan is also dead.

and i know you did that on purpose ... but i just ... can't ... resist.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler October 19, 2015 8:58 AM  

I see Bush. Clinton, I love Obama's caricature. Can't figure out the other two, The one to the immediate right of Bush: may be Kissinger? Or it could be any neo-con. and the person in the middle, academics in general? Episcopal or Anglican Churchiany-ites? The curly shows and the frilly collar, quasi dress, hard to connect.

Blogger Sun Xhu October 19, 2015 9:03 AM  

@5 From left to right: W, HW, Jeb, Clinton, Obama

Blogger VD October 19, 2015 9:12 AM  

Can't figure out the other two

You failed Sun Tzu, Spartan. "Know your enemy". The three amigos are the three Bushes. The one in the sombrero is ¡Jeb!.

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 9:12 AM  

Shrub, Bush, ¿Jeb?, Billy Joe Bob and 'O' so Insane in the Membrane.

i wasn't picking up on it either until Vox said they needed to be presidents. i didn't know Bush was supposed to be "thousand points of light" and the guy on the right just looked like generic explodey vest guy to me ( partly because i'm old and decrepit and had my page zoomed in so i could read the text, therefore O was hidden behind the SJWAL graphic ).


otoh, ¿Jeb? ( why don't you love me ) has never been president either ...

god DAMNIT, Vox got me again.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler October 19, 2015 9:13 AM  

I should've noted the arms around the other two! more carefully, I saw that but didn't make the connection. Yes! W, HW, and El Jebe!

Blogger James Dixon October 19, 2015 9:13 AM  

> Also, he was not a U.S. President.

So, since Jeb IS in the lineup, does this count as your presidential election prediction?

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 October 19, 2015 9:13 AM  

Gee, shouldn't Ms. Liberty have a French immigrant's accent?
Allegory can be EASY with ignorant lies of omission.
In fairness, it IS labeled a cartoon.
CaptDMO

Blogger Cail Corishev October 19, 2015 9:21 AM  

Also, if you use Ted Kennedy, the next batch of sperges show up to tell you it was really some Jewish guy no one's ever heard of, which is both true and even more useless as rhetoric.

Going back just to Reagan is smart for a couple reasons, aside from him being the last president most people remember. It heads off the sperges who will say "What about Reagan's 1986 amnesty, huh?" if you don't. It also makes it 3 Republicans (including one still-admired one) and 2 Democrats, so leftists will have a harder time claiming that it's partisan.

Blogger YIH October 19, 2015 9:22 AM  

Now, a magazine just for SJWs.

Blogger Nate October 19, 2015 9:23 AM  

the issue is the drawing of 41. he just looks like a random smarmy suit. Once you figure out its 41 the whole thing works.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 October 19, 2015 9:23 AM  

I suppose it COULD be a respectable mocking of false accusation by a feminist poser with
her "crown of thorns" headband, and shredded "stars" skirt.
Perhaps "J'accuse!"
CaptDMO

Blogger Cail Corishev October 19, 2015 9:24 AM  

Ok, I had it wrong. I thought it was the last 5 presidents: Reagan (cowboy), Bush I (suit), Bush II (Mexican), Clinton (pants off), and Obama (jihadist). I guess it works either way, though now that I look again, the cowboy's face does look like Bush II, not Reagan.

Blogger VD October 19, 2015 9:26 AM  

So, since Jeb IS in the lineup, does this count as your presidential election prediction?

No. It appears the rhetorical target escapes some of you. Seriously, if I advise not meeting rhetoric with dialectic, how socially retarded do you have to be to attempt dialectical criticism of a CARTOON, an intrinsically rhetorical form of communication.

Ask yourself this: who is the proximate target. And then, who is the real target? And what is just a swipe in passing?

Blogger VD October 19, 2015 9:28 AM  

Perhaps "J'accuse!"

Sure, if it was the 19th century. Look, in case it has escaped your attention, people are largely illiterate and ahistorical. The more obscure your reference, the more you demonstrate you are not only out of touch, but clueless.

The only way the Dreyfus trial could be less relevant to 21st century Americans is if it did not involve anti-semitism.

Blogger collisioncat67 October 19, 2015 9:37 AM  

Ms. Liberty is pointing out guilty individuals with her unlit torch.
Someone be a gentleman and light it for her.

BTW, the Obama depiction cracked me up.

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 9:39 AM  

well, i know that Obama is really, REALLY a Christian ...

so, i'ma say he's just "a swipe in passing".

also, now i'm depressed.

the last four presidents, over 26 years, have been leading in an anti-Constitutional manner?

and before that, we had Carter, Nixon and Johnson?

argh. so MUCH incompetence and malfeasance.

how on earth is the USA still around?

it's a testament to the gross incompetence of Marxist ideologies that Russia and China were never able to do anything about us directly until after the Frankfurt School program had been in action for an entire century.

Blogger Nate October 19, 2015 9:46 AM  

"The only way the Dreyfus trial could be less relevant to 21st century Americans is if it did not involve anti-semitism."

huh? oh.. Elain from seinfeld? was she arrested or something?

Blogger Alexander October 19, 2015 9:51 AM  

George HW Bush is taller than George W Bush, so that's kinda weird that you depicted them the other way round.

Also, the train is okay!

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 October 19, 2015 9:59 AM  

She wanted it.

OpenID alexr778 October 19, 2015 10:13 AM  

Was this drawn by Vox? If so, nice job.

Critique: HW should be taller, and his hair is suggestive of being dark and curly. On W, the flannel shirt makes him look like Reagan at first glance. Jeb is excellent, with minor quibble about the sombrero; the pointy top makes it look like a witch's hat at first glance. Clinton: perfect. Zero: the scimitar is overkill; the perfect caricature blends his alienness with his metrosexuality.

Political cartoons require instant recognition. Having to stop and try to figure things out on account of minor imperfections of characterization blunts the effect.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir October 19, 2015 10:14 AM  

I don't see Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, or Truman.

OpenID PA October 19, 2015 10:15 AM  

This is PA. I'm still getting the hang of the site registration thing.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 10:20 AM  

@20 bob k. mando

"well, i know that Obama is really, REALLY a Christian ...

Only because George Stephanopolous reminded him that it was so.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 10:22 AM  

What's with all the critics and armchair political cartoonists this morning? Sheesh.

Blogger Alexander October 19, 2015 10:22 AM  

... Wow. Parody to reality in two comments. I am working on the razor's edge, I tell ya.

Blogger Alexander October 19, 2015 10:25 AM  

@28

Apparently all commenters this morning had brain transplants with SJWs.

We won't produce any comics outselves but by diversity are we going to tell you what to do regarding the content, imagery, design, and purpose of your own!

Blogger Pope Cleophus I October 19, 2015 10:26 AM  


I don't see Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, or Truman.


Or any other one of the elected kings either. At first pass, I was going to ask where Rape Rape was until I saw King Jorge the Second.

Blogger Student in Blue October 19, 2015 10:27 AM  

Strangely enough, Obama was the *first* one I recognized.

Blogger Donn #0114 October 19, 2015 10:28 AM  

How could you miss the ridiculous curled toe boots on Jeb? He's the best of the three to me. It makes him look like a Mexican banger, perfect.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 19, 2015 10:29 AM  

I blame my confusion on the fact that I used Facebook last night and it dumbed me down.

OpenID PA October 19, 2015 10:32 AM  

"What's with all the critics and armchair political cartoonists this morning?"

We're adults with similar politics and interest in the culture war. So when we see a cartoon presumably created by a participant in the discussion, we may provide what we consider intelligent feedback.

Blogger Gaiseric October 19, 2015 10:41 AM  

well, i know that Obama is really, REALLY a Christian ...

I know two things about Obama's Christianity. 1) He certainly claims to be a Christian, and 2) he's a well-documented liar.

Blogger Alexander October 19, 2015 10:44 AM  

@35

In which case you miss the point.

A cartoon is a rhetorical drive-by. You'll note than when a liberal millenial posts a Bernie Sanders meme on the facebumblr, other liberals respond with 'That's so true!' and 'Fell the Bern!'

The never say: well, actually, I do support higher taxes on groups A and B but technically, increasing taxes is not fairly defined as 'cutting spending'...

Quibbling on the fine points of rhetoric fired by your own side is at best a waste of time and more likely self-destructive. It's a shot, it's easily understood and gets its message across. The Clintons and Bushes are liberty raping Brutes and Obama is a sword-wielding smoking Islamic maniac. Nothing else needs to be said.

Spread it then move on.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 10:45 AM  

@35 PA

" . . . we may provide what we consider intelligent feedback."

Except when it comes across more as I-could-have-done-it-better-one-up-manship than intelligent feedback. But, on the other hand, it also reveals how many people missed the rhetorical nature of the cartoon, as Vox already pointed out earlier.

So, carry on.

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 10:45 AM  

28. Rabbi B October 19, 2015 10:22 AM
What's with all the critics and armchair political cartoonists this morning? Sheesh.


i hereby request that every Voxtoon have a little guy in the lower right corner informing us whether or not the train is still fine.

i just can't get off to a good start to my Monday if i don't know.

Blogger Ron October 19, 2015 10:55 AM  

They all ran a train on Miss Liberty.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 19, 2015 10:55 AM  

The ones I most easily recognized are he vaguely Andy Griffith cop, and the Halloween Obama.

Blogger Josh October 19, 2015 10:55 AM  

So when we see a cartoon presumably created by a participant in the discussion, we may provide what we consider intelligent feedback.

What you consider intelligent feedback might not be considered intelligent feedback by others.

Blogger Josh October 19, 2015 10:56 AM  

They all ran a train on Miss Liberty.

Is the train fine?

OpenID PA October 19, 2015 10:59 AM  

"Except when it comes across more as I-could-have-done-it-better-one-up-manship"

My comment did not have that subtext.

Blogger VD October 19, 2015 11:00 AM  

We won't produce any comics outselves but by diversity are we going to tell you what to do regarding the content, imagery, design, and purpose of your own!

Mm hmm. I always enjoy someone who has never spent 30 seconds in the game industry telling me about his incredible idea that will "sell a million games" too.

So when we see a cartoon presumably created by a participant in the discussion, we may provide what we consider intelligent feedback.

Feedback is what one seeks prior to release. When it is provided unsolicited post-release, it is known as criticism. The fact that someone thinks the very first thing anyone wants to hear after creating something is: "hey, here is what I think is wrong with it" is a pretty good sign they have never, ever created anything.

I'm not looking for "you go, girl" and mindless praise. But the discussion that a cartoon is supposed to start is should be about the subject, not the execution. And it's especially annoying when the suggestions would obviously make the cartoons worse.

I'm tempted to incorporate them all and have her shouting "j'Accuse" at Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, and Teddy Kennedy. Plus the train, of course. The train that is fine. That would be so much better.

Now, it's fine to express your opinion, of course. But it's also fine for me, or others, to point out that your opinion is, in fact, stupid.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 11:00 AM  

"Is the train fine?"

Trouble ahead, Lady in red,
Take my advice you'd be better off dead.
Switchman's sleeping, train hundred and two is
On the wrong track and headed for you.

Trouble with you is the trouble with me,
Got two good eyes but you still don't see.
Come round the bend, you know it's the end,
The fireman screams and the engine just gleams

Blogger Zach October 19, 2015 11:27 AM  

Didn't catch the identity of the rightmost guy on first viewing - assumed he was supposed to be "generic jihadi" enabled by (and hiding in the shadows of) the other guys.

The thicket of Bushes, though.... that worked.

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 11:47 AM  

They all ran a train on Miss Liberty.

43. Josh October 19, 2015 10:56 AM
Is the train fine?



now that the train has conducted a train ... the train feels like smoking.



27. Rabbi B October 19, 2015 10:20 AM
Only because George Stephanopolous reminded him that it was so.



in point of fact, Stephanopolous rendered the point Obama was trying to make dialectically incoherent.

when Obama said "... my muslim faith ..." he was talking about what he was accusing the McCain associates of accusing him of.

George recognized / keyed on the rhetorical soundbite ... and then highlighted it.

the whole discussion makes no sense ( rhetorically or dialectally ) if the McCain people are accusing Obama of having Christian faith.

i consider the turn of phrase, "these guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand" more indicative of his socially muslim background than anything else. that comes from the practice of stoning. which only muslims still do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMhB-CwF4yc



45. VD October 19, 2015 11:00 AM
But the discussion that a cartoon is supposed to start is should be about the subject, not the execution.


when the execution is such that a significant fraction of the ( friendly ) audience isn't grasping the subject ... you need to deploy some g upgrades to your minions.

Blogger Brad Andrews October 19, 2015 12:19 PM  

This was certainly not the clearest in the area of recognizability, though having the one on the far right under the picture of the SJWs Always Lie book didn't help. I do wish these pictures could fit in the central column instead of spewing over so they often end up under whatever is on the right column.

I thought HTML had a tag setting for that.

Blogger Tom Arrow October 19, 2015 12:19 PM  

Why did nobody invite me?

Blogger Brad Andrews October 19, 2015 12:20 PM  

This was certainly not the clearest in the area of recognizability, though having the one on the far right under the picture of the SJWs Always Lie book didn't help. I do wish these pictures could fit in the central column instead of spewing over so they often end up under whatever is on the right column.

I thought HTML had a tag setting for that.

Blogger Profit October 19, 2015 12:25 PM  

The best one yet!

OpenID Jack Amok October 19, 2015 12:26 PM  

the issue is the drawing of 41. he just looks like a random smarmy suit. Once you figure out its 41 the whole thing works.

Yeah, at first glance I was confused - I though Obama was a generic "peace-loving refugee", Clinton was Kennedy ("Senator, where are your pants?"), and the Bush trio were just baffling. 41 might be that short now, but he wasn't when he was president, so I don't think most people will think of him as such a midget.



OpenID Jack Amok October 19, 2015 12:30 PM  

The fact that someone thinks the very first thing anyone wants to hear after creating something is: "hey, here is what I think is wrong with it" is a pretty good sign they have never, ever created anything.


Vox, we're a friendly audience. Think of it as a beta test. We want these to succeed. The message here is a good one, but the execution was off. We're just helping you to fail faster, so that you can succeed faster.

Blogger VD October 19, 2015 12:35 PM  

Vox, we're a friendly audience. Think of it as a beta test.

I don't mind at all the comments about not getting who one of the characters is. That's useful. The fact that the artist and I get it doesn't mean that anyone else will. But babbling about how what it really needs is Woodrow Wilson or a clever reference to an 1894 French scandal is just posturing.

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 12:40 PM  

if i were to attempt some constructive criticism it would be this:
just as the most important thing in skiffy is the story, the most important thing in political cartooning is the HUMOR.

people will read political cartoons from other ends of the spectrum ... but they must BE FUNNY. i ( and many other conservatives ) used to read Doonesbury all the time. because, in spite of our political differences, Trudeau could make us laugh. decades ago, Trudeau decided that humor was no longer important and he should expend more effort on message.

now, no one reads him unless he makes retarded comments like "Charlie Hebdo was asking for it".

if you aren't having fun writing these, it's likely that your audience isn't having fun reading them.

and ... i'm really not seeing a comedic hook in this one?


51. Brad Andrews October 19, 2015 12:20 PM
I thought HTML had a tag setting for that.


the issue is that the Blog is set up with three columns of information ... and display area is taken out of the middle column for 4:3 ratio screens with the resolution set too low.

you can 'fix' this by holding down your 'Ctrl' key and rolling the scroll button on the mouse back and forth to zoom in and out.

Blogger James Dixon October 19, 2015 12:46 PM  

> ... he just looks like a random smarmy suit. Once you figure out its 41 the whole thing works.

Well, to be fair that's actually an excellent description of GHWB.

> No. It appears the rhetorical target escapes some of you.

Vox, if there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that you seldom do anything that operates at only one level. That's why I asked. It seemed a perfect comment on the current electoral process.

> the last four presidents, over 26 years, have been leading in an anti-Constitutional manner?

Oh, a lot father back than that. But as Vox notes, that defeats the rhetorical purpose.

OpenID Steve October 19, 2015 12:56 PM  

Part of the problem is people have to go out of their way to see cartoons that are not leftist. If you go to the GOP briefing room pookies toons you will see cartoons that wont appear in lamestream.

Look, in case it has escaped your attention, people are largely illiterate and ahistorical.

Well teaching about the 7yo white breaker boys who slaved in coal mines, so their taxes could pay for Puerto Ricans to collect social security disability, doesn't fit the narrative of white male privilege.

How could you miss the ridiculous curled toe boots on Jeb?

I couldn't figure out who was between the two bushes, I thought it might have been related to the jokes about Jeb's wife.-BGS


Blogger Giraffe October 19, 2015 12:57 PM  

and ... i'm really not seeing a comedic hook in this one? It's a political cartoon.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 1:00 PM  

Good thing the cop called her "Miss Liberty" otherwise I would have mistaken her for Jesus in drag. Talk about multiple levels. It's all just so confusing.

Blogger Alexander October 19, 2015 1:07 PM  

@60

That's a cop? That would be made a lot clearer if we could maybe have a pile of dead black people in the corner.

SO MUCH AMBIGUITY!

OpenID PA October 19, 2015 1:14 PM  

The cop looks exactly how a cop should look in this kind of a cartoon. Some of the unfunny snark in the comments comes off like a Gamma sniping at perceived Deltas.

Blogger automatthew October 19, 2015 1:23 PM  

Brad Andrews: I thought HTML had a tag setting for that.

I tweaked the CSS to prevent the image overflowing.

Blogger automatthew October 19, 2015 1:26 PM  

Jeb and Shrub were the only ones I could recognize at a glance. The Jeb caricature is excellent. Really captures his potato head.

Blogger Lana J October 19, 2015 1:33 PM  

I recognized everyone immediately, but I was distracted by trying to figure out what kind of hat was on Jeb's head. Just a thought, but I don't think the sombrero was exaggerated enough because it sort of looks like a 10 gallon hat. Hence, I completely missed the 3 Amigos aspect but I still love it! Mine is a VERY minor quibble.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 1:38 PM  

"Some of the unfunny snark in the comments comes off like a Gamma sniping at perceived Deltas."

Now, THAT's funny.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 19, 2015 1:41 PM  

@58 Steve

"... so their taxes could pay for Puerto Ricans to collect social security disability ..."

Puerto Ricans have been under SS since SS' inception, IIRC.

Not a defense of SocSec.

Blogger bob k. mando October 19, 2015 1:42 PM  

63. automatthew October 19, 2015 1:23 PM
I tweaked the CSS to prevent the image overflowing.



that helps a bunch. thanks matt.


60. Rabbi B October 19, 2015 1:00 PM
Good thing the cop called her "Miss Liberty" otherwise I would have mistaken her for Jesus in drag.



in spite of BGS's presence, this really ISN'T that kind of blog.

stay strong, Steve!

Blogger SciVo October 19, 2015 1:50 PM  

Ask yourself this: who is the proximate target. And then, who is the real target? And what is just a swipe in passing?

Proximate target: Obama and the last 7 years
Real target: ¡Jeb! and cuckservatives in general
Swipe in passing: the Clintons via Bill

I say the Clintons, not just Bill, because it's a setup for linking Hillary to the worst aspects of her husband's presidency if she gets the nom.

Blogger SciVo October 19, 2015 1:56 PM  

Oh wait, it's forward-looking. Proximate Jeb, real Clinton, swipe Obama.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 19, 2015 2:07 PM  

It's also funny Obama has a cigarette(?) in his mouth.

It makes me think
Bushes - We're here to happily help, and we will.
Clinton - I'm here to help myself, and I will.
Obama - I'm here to pretend to help, and I will.

Blogger Diddy Pimptastic October 19, 2015 2:10 PM  

Yo niggas don't be jackin my ho. Miss Liberty be my bottom bitch. Gonna slap that ho like a domino.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 2:12 PM  

"It's also funny Obama has a cigarette(?) in his mouth."

It's no cigarette and, unlike his predecessors, he's inhaling.

(Bill's heart boxers with the shirt half-tucked in was a nice touch.)

Blogger LP999/S.I.G. Burnin' Up! October 19, 2015 2:32 PM  

Dark humor, like it but kinda saddening of the reality, the non existent levity of it all.

Yeah! In a crimson veil, defiled and ruined...I can tell everyone the specifics of my financial rape, the date of each rape, the duration and WHOM.

And it was not a man! Repeat! I have never been assaulted, raped, hit, etc. by a man.

Blogger Chris Mallory October 19, 2015 2:50 PM  

"Bushes - We're here to happily help, and we will."

Who did the Bushes help, other than the NeoCons and the Multi-nationals? We have had the same policies since the end of Bush the First's regime when the NeoCons forced the realists out after Gulf War I.

Blogger Alexander October 19, 2015 2:58 PM  

We're here to happily help ourselves, and we will.

Fixed that for ya.

Blogger James Dixon October 19, 2015 3:21 PM  

> Jeb and Shrub were the only ones I could recognize at a glance.

Jeb was the last one I got, but I haven't seen that much of hm (no TV at the house). It took me time to realize it was Zero on the end, but Jeb I actually had to think about to get, and then only because the other two were there.

Blogger Nate October 19, 2015 6:32 PM  

"Fixed that for ya."

I remember back in 1999 thinking that Dubya would be the one to fix immigration... because I figured he was from Texas... the front lines.

That was back before I realized that Texans are absolutely retarded when it comes to mexicans.

Blogger Rabbi B October 19, 2015 6:48 PM  

" . . because I figured he was from Texas... the front lines."

And Jeb was in Florida. Must be congenital.

Blogger SirHamster October 19, 2015 7:12 PM  

Yeah, at first glance I was confused - I though Obama was a generic "peace-loving refugee", Clinton was Kennedy ("Senator, where are your pants?"), and the Bush trio were just baffling. 41 might be that short now, but he wasn't when he was president, so I don't think most people will think of him as such a midget.

I recognized Clinton easily, but completely failed to realize it was the Bushes and Obama. Made sense after it was pointed out.

I thought the lineup was representing Conservatives (cowboys), GOP (suits), Mexicans, Democrats (Clinton) and Muslims.

The face for Obama doesn't work for me. I think smug condescension, not angry glare.

Blogger Civis Silas October 19, 2015 8:26 PM  

@14

I have to defend the artist here. If one lacks or fails to recognize context clues, even the most distinctive drawings of Bush 41 are nearly indistinguishable from a generic smarmy suit.


As to the matter of Yeb!, the officer would be remiss if he did not at least charge him as an accessory to Bush 43.

OpenID PA October 19, 2015 8:49 PM  

"I have to defend the artist here. If one lacks or fails to recognize context clues, even the most distinctive drawings of Bush 41 are nearly indistinguishable from a generic smarmy suit."

The concept of the cartoon is excellent, the dynamics and composition as well, as is the drawing itself in a general sense.

But as its been pointed out, many readers dont recognize the presidents at first glance. For a political cartoon to work, recognition has to be instant. Failure to identify caricatures of famous people indicates a technical flaw.

GHWB wasn't characterized merely as a smarmy suit. His best caricatures captured his high-WASP out-of-touchness and his patrician awkwardness. Making him short in this cartoon further confuses things.

Blogger Koanic October 19, 2015 9:19 PM  

I don't pay a great deal of attention to politics, but I didn't recognize any of the faces. Skipped to the last guy, didn't recognize him, stopped paying attention.

So if it's not too late for editing, maybe less aggressive on the facial caricature would help the joke. Already a lot going on.

Still found it amusing that someone raped lady liberty. Stupid slut has been standing out by the harbor for the last 100 years soliciting sailors; what did she expect?

Blogger Koanic October 19, 2015 9:20 PM  

Hey, something along those lines would make a great second panel. Too far? I can never tell.

OpenID Jack Amok October 19, 2015 11:20 PM  

Hey, something along those lines would make a great second panel. Too far? I can never tell.

I can't remember the name of the guy, but there's a cartoonist who always has some little guy in the corner breaking the 4th wall to make a wisecrack about the comic. It would fit perfectly there.

Blogger automatthew October 19, 2015 11:23 PM  

Stupid slut has been standing out by the harbor for the last 100 years soliciting sailors; what did she expect?

Bro Dean could use that.

Blogger ray October 19, 2015 11:50 PM  

It's good political cartooning, make details matter. Babylonian mu-mu on Jebbers. Curlicue witch-clogs. Obie wan Jihadi is hilarious. He Hears all, he Executes all.

I sure hope that Junior didn't consider himself an actual cowboy.


Blogger ray October 19, 2015 11:54 PM  

p.s. I think it's a Babylonian PEASANT mu-mu and the campaign committee, running at four percent, will appreciate the notation.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 20, 2015 12:33 AM  

@75 Chris Mallory
"Bushes - We're here to happily help, and we will."

Who did the Bushes help, other than the NeoCons and the Multi-nationals? We have had the same policies since the end of Bush the First's regime when the NeoCons forced the realists out after Gulf War I.
----

Didn't mean to imply they helped, but that they thought they were helping. They are kind of the do-gooder but not actually being helpful.

Maybe I should have phrased it "Happy to help, whether you like it or not"

Blogger Mindstorm October 20, 2015 11:12 AM  

@83 Koanic:
What you proposed might be said aloud by Mother Russia to another country icon. It would fit with the general psychology of this type remarks.

Blogger SirHamster October 20, 2015 4:09 PM  

I can't remember the name of the guy, but there's a cartoonist who always has some little guy in the corner breaking the 4th wall to make a wisecrack about the comic. It would fit perfectly there.

Canaan of Max Overacts?

Blogger Loren Ibsen October 20, 2015 7:27 PM  

39. "i hereby request that every Voxtoon have a little guy in the lower right corner informing us whether or not the train is still fine."

AspergaMouse?

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