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Friday, October 02, 2015

Reading material

Father John Zuhlsdorf's travel reads are pretty much the definition of "eclectic".

Organizing Creativity posted a nice recommendation of the book as well:

I’ve seen a couple of recommendations of Vox Day’s “SJWs Always Lie — Taking Down the Though Police” (incl. from @ProfessorF, whose highlights are here, but also on Reddit and in other places). So I had a look at it and — yep, I like it as well.... So, while I am still on the fence whether SJWs are just over-caring (care as sole moral foundation, and totally helicopter-caring in overdrive), have mental problems (Borderline? Narcissistic? Psychopath?), or are Machiavellian players in today’s society, this book is likely going to be helpful in fighting back.

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Blogger Danby October 02, 2015 12:17 PM  

Well, there's a name I didn't expect to see popping up here.

Blogger Jack Aubrey October 02, 2015 12:22 PM  

I never could get into the Dewey Lambdin books - much prefer that O'Brian guy.

Blogger Dave October 02, 2015 12:23 PM  

This is what it means to be a failed author.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 02, 2015 12:34 PM  

A very useful book makes it likeable. With the latest left rhetoric driven mass murder in the can perhaps a book on how to beat Gammatude and Omegahood could sell.

Blogger Gaiseric ! October 02, 2015 12:42 PM  

No reason why all three can't be true. Not all SJWs are psychologically exactly alike. Nor are those mutually exclusive to each other with regards to the same individual.

Blogger GK Chesterton October 02, 2015 12:45 PM  

Huh. Didn't expect that. May have just heard heads pop.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 02, 2015 12:55 PM  

Well, there's a name I didn't expect to see popping up here.

No kidding. I did an honest-to-goodness double-take. I used to comment a bit at Fr. Z's blog, until the cognitive dissonance over Catholic stuff that I won't get into here got old.

Blogger Daniel October 02, 2015 1:45 PM  

Can I begin to dream of the revival of the Inquisition now? Perhaps the souls of SJWs can be saved, even if it costs a pound or two of flesh.

Come to think of it, they'd hardly notice if a pound or two went missing.

Blogger maniacprovost October 02, 2015 2:13 PM  

When will you begin taking pre-orders for the mass market paperback? : D

As an aside, the kickstarter model removes economic risk from the entrepreneurial function, which means it is one more nail in Tor's coffin if you can apply it to publishing.

Blogger Groot October 02, 2015 2:14 PM  

This is perhaps the most beneficial impact which SJWs Always Lie can make: getting them to understand how others see them. They go months, years, a lifetime in their bubble of blissful self-congratulation. Suddenly Stevil drops a graphic of them that is... not flattering, into the conversation, followed by the screams of observers and a full mock. Learning cannot help but ensue. "We are good people fighting for good things, why must this person point out the jackboots?" This may be the first time they've ever let any opposition pierce through.

Blogger VD October 02, 2015 2:30 PM  

When will you begin taking pre-orders for the mass market paperback?

No mass-market, but the paperback should be going on sale for $11.99 within 2-3 weeks.

Blogger Desiderius October 02, 2015 5:14 PM  

"No reason why all three can't be true. Not all SJWs are psychologically exactly alike. Nor are those mutually exclusive to each other with regards to the same individual."

+1

It's a symbiotic relationship between the hyper-carers (who are at best sort of morally colorblind) and psychopaths/sociopaths who prey upon their weaknesses.

The traditional circuit-breaker for this phenomenon (Christan humility) being abandoned, it has spiraled out of control.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch October 02, 2015 6:39 PM  

Awesome to know Vox is aware of Fr. Z.

Oh, how I wish, Vox, that you were in the Church with us, battling the evil forces of Modernism and helping us in the fight to save Traditionalism--and by extension, the soul of the West.

It's a great book you wrote. I recommend it when I can.

Blogger James Dixon October 02, 2015 8:07 PM  

> Oh, how I wish, Vox, that you were in the Church with us

He is in the Church with you, just not the church.

See http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/what-does-church-mean, in particular this quote:

"To it [the Church] belong all the saints: from Abel and Abraham and all the witnesses of hope whom the Old Testament tells us, through Mary, the Mother of the Lord, and the Lord’s apostles, through Thomas Becket and Thomas More all the way to Maximilian Kolbe, Edith Stein, and Pier Giorgio Frassati. The Church includes all the unknown and unnamed ‘whose faith is known to him alone,’ it embraces the men of all places and all times whose hearts stretch out in hope and love to Christ, the ‘author and finisher of faith,’ as the letter to the Hebrews calls him (12:2)."
—Pope Benedict XVI, Called to Communion, 154

See also the definition at https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=32533

Blogger Desiderius October 02, 2015 10:14 PM  

James,

Well said/cited.

We all fall short of the glory of God in one way or another, saint and sinner alike. Takes more than doctrinal quibbles to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus.

BTW, there is a fine theological debate at that link in Father John's combox. Good work by Titus and Outlaw X, God rest his soul.

Blogger Joseph Maroney October 02, 2015 11:40 PM  

"So, while I am still on the fence whether SJWs are just over-caring (care as sole moral foundation, and totally helicopter-caring in overdrive), have mental problems (Borderline? Narcissistic? Psychopath?), or are Machiavellian players in today’s society...

Why pick just one?

Blogger LP999/S.I.G. Burnin' Up! October 03, 2015 12:59 AM  

What a celebration for the book, SJW ALWAYS LIE.

No and never to thought police.

14 And thanks to Vox and the other men for speaking for those of us with a small voice or mostly us living in obscurity, Lord willing, carrying on with our given paths.

Carry on gentlemen!

Blogger Minion777 October 03, 2015 2:27 AM  

Check the comment from YoungLatinMassGuy at the Fr. Z's Blog.
Seems like a lying liar who lies,

Leave it as it is or reply?

Blogger Markku October 03, 2015 2:31 AM  

Just looked at the comment thread on the Catholic blog.

Oh, God.... Vox does it again. He gives something that looks provocative, and people who skim until offended get their panties in a wad. *sigh*

Quote from his original post: "this argument obviously does not reflect my own theological beliefs"

Just in case you missed it:

"this argument obviously does not reflect my own theological beliefs."

Blogger Markku October 03, 2015 2:32 AM  

Vox believes in the full divinity of Christ. I have specifically asked.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch October 03, 2015 3:15 AM  

@14 lol

It is an easy thing to just assume that, so long as a man is nice and has good intentions, that he will be just fine, go to Heaven, and be a nice guy forever.

It is a far harder thing to understand that Jesus was an actual man--and The Christ--who did not come to this world to found a loosely organized club of politeness, and who did not come to dump off a book--the Bible--with the intention that 1.5 millenia later, Luther, King James, and so on would "set us all straight" about this "church thing."

Rather, Jesus Christ came to we mortals to found a universal Church--comprised of apostles--and guided by the Holy Spirit with the power to bind and loose the state of men and devils on Earth.

That men choose to ignore this fact does not change what Christ set out to do with His Church, and nor does it change the fact that, at their judgement, all men will acknowledge the authority Christ's Church in this world AND the next.

Blogger Markku October 03, 2015 3:58 AM  

Yeah, lol, to think that a Catholic would listen to the Pope.

Lol.

Blogger James Dixon October 03, 2015 8:36 AM  

> Well said/cited.

Thanks.

> Leave it as it is or reply?

You have to create a Wordpress account to post there, so it's not worth it for me.


> Oh, God.... Vox does it again. He gives something that looks provocative, and people who skim until offended get their panties in a wad. *sigh*

Yeah, people do keep doing that, don't they. And sometimes Vox isn't even trying to get them to do so.

> Vox believes in the full divinity of Christ. I have specifically asked.

Anyone who reads here for any length of time has no doubt of that.

> Yeah, lol, to think that a Catholic would listen to the Pope.

Well, I tried. As has been demonstrated too many times, there's not much point in saying more on the subject.

Blogger Desiderius October 03, 2015 11:54 AM  

"Anyone who reads here for any length of time has no doubt of that."

I was fooled. Not for the first time.

Blogger Jim Milo October 03, 2015 6:35 PM  

'Heretic' Vox is a Mac, not a PC.

But I sure am getting low ping times to heaven.org around here.

-Linus Torvalds

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