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Saturday, October 17, 2015

SJWs define "good community"

The dubiously named "Geekess" explains the process of social justice convergence in open source projects:
There’s been a lot of discussion in my comment sections (and on LWN) about what makes a good community, along with suggestions of welcoming open source communities to check out. Your hearts are in the right place, but I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement. I’m quite happy to give the Xorg community a chance, mostly because I believe they’re starting from the right place for cultural change.

The thing is, reaching the goal of a diverse community is a step-by-step process. There are no shortcuts. Each step has to be complete before the next level of cultural change is effective. It’s also worth noting that each step along the way benefits all community members, not just diverse contributors.

Level 0: basic human decency
In order to attract diverse candidates, you need to be known as a welcoming community, with a clear set of agreed-upon social norms. It’s not good enough to have a code of conduct. Your leaders need to be actively behind it, and it needs to be enforced.

Level 1: on-boarding

The next phase in improving diversity is figuring out how to on-board newcomers. If diverse candidates are only 1-10% of newcomers, but you have a 90% fail rate for people who try to make their first contribution, well, you can’t expect many diverse newcomers to stick around, can you? It’s also essential to explain your unwritten tribal knowledge, so that diverse candidates (who are more likely to be afraid of upsetting the status quo) know what they’re getting into.

Level 2: meaningful contributions

The next step is figuring out what to do with these eager new diverse candidates. If they’ve made it this far through the gauntlet of toxic tech culture, they’re likely to be persistent, smart, and seeking a challenge. If you don’t have meaningful bigger projects for them to contribute to, they’ll move onto the next shiny thing.
And it just gets worse, until the whole thing is run by non-white women, food served at conferences is vegetarian, drinking is banned, and the code of conduct explicitly acknowledges the spectrum of privilege. And while she left out literal self-flagellation, there is no doubt that the metaphorical form will be expected of any white male contributors that remain.

I am beginning to wonder if Microsoft and the other software vendors are behind this open source code-of-conduct campaign, because nothing short of special ops assault teams could destroy their OSS competitors more effectively.

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115 Comments:

Blogger Lulabelle October 17, 2015 3:20 AM  

The bullet points under each of those headings on the "Geekess" blog post reads like an Onion article.
And that's almost amusing, except when I consider that these people are serious about this insanity.

Blogger Sensei October 17, 2015 3:27 AM  

If "cellar door" is one of the most euphonious words in the English language, "Geekess" has to be one of the least.

Blogger Carl Philipp October 17, 2015 3:38 AM  

"There are no shortcuts. Each step has to be complete before the next level of cultural change is effective."

Takeaway lesson: Make sure you are not seen as a welcoming and inclusive community, so that diverse candidates will not be attracted. If you place the bottleneck there, they can't get to the other steps.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica October 17, 2015 3:42 AM  

Remember the Church Lady from SNL? Remember how leftists were happy to laugh at and mock a closed-minded, judgmental Puritan smugly asserting her own superiority, as long as said Puritan was a Christian? It's 25 years later, and the Church Ladies have all dyed their hair puce, donned clunky glasses and are embracing Slutwalks and Intersectionality instead of Jesus, but why isn't the Left mocking them? Could it be that all of this time the Left wasn't mocking the SNL Church Lady's methods and behaviors, just her beliefs?

Everytime I hear a porculent SJW speak about a "Code of Conduct" I now hear a falsetto voice in the back of my head going "Wellll....Isn't that SPECIAL?..."

Blogger Amethyst Dominica October 17, 2015 3:50 AM  

Diversity, diversity, diversity---the magical word. The magical word that's supposed to fix everything.

Just what is Diversity supposed to do anyway? Why is it better than non-diversity? It takes a considerable investment of time and energy to take a person from another culture, teach them out language and enough of our laws and mores for them to grasp what is happening and then set them to a task. Why go through the trouble when there are plenty of poor native-born Americans who want to do said task?

Oh right. native-born Americans would demand higher salaries...

Apparently those who expect to reap the benefits of Diversity don't expect to pay the costs for it..

Blogger Robert What? October 17, 2015 3:51 AM  

As the owner of a commercial software company, I applaud these developments in the OSS community.

Blogger Groot October 17, 2015 3:56 AM  

"and it needs to be enforced"

Nothing says consent like force. The manacles just make it sexy. Drink this, it'll loosen you up. Creepy, creepy Sarah Sharp. She's no psychopath. Trust her. Just do what she says. It needs to be enforced.

Blogger Brad Andrews October 17, 2015 4:02 AM  

Nice to know that I am not welcome in her brave new world since I have the wrong genetalia and skin color.

Note that cisgender white guy trying to earn their favor in the comments not realizing he will be on the way out if they really do gain power.

Blogger Carl Philipp October 17, 2015 4:03 AM  

SJW Codes of Conduct need to be enforced by the leaders.

Blogger Eric October 17, 2015 4:49 AM  

Diversity, diversity, diversity---the magical word. The magical word that's supposed to fix everything.

Has there ever been anything interesting that wasn't made by white or Asian men?

Blogger pdwalker October 17, 2015 5:01 AM  

you sly one. you had me there for a moment.

Blogger pdwalker October 17, 2015 5:02 AM  

VD (autocorrect tried to change that to 'bad')

I'll be very curious to see what you suggest for a code when you have time to write one.

Blogger Remo - Vile Faceless Minion #99 October 17, 2015 6:04 AM  

This is why we know women particularly SJW women never get into heaven. They'd walk in, say "This is incredible!!! It just needs a few little changes!!" Then within a year they will have turned it into hell.

Blogger James Dixon October 17, 2015 6:05 AM  

Translating:

> ...but I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement.

've never found an open source community made up entirely of women, and minorities that supports the sexual perversions I prefer.

> In order to attract diverse candidates, you need to be known as a welcoming community,

It doesn't matter how good your work is if the above is true.

> The next phase in improving diversity is figuring out how to on-board newcomers.

We're all precious snowflakes who can't possibly be expected to be treated like everyone else.

> The next step is figuring out what to do with these eager new diverse candidates.

We have no clue what we're doing, so you'll have to do our work for us.

> If you don’t have meaningful bigger projects for them to contribute to, they’ll move onto the next shiny thing.

And once we've completely destroyed your project we'll move on the next one.

Blogger Rantor October 17, 2015 6:37 AM  

Actually, I think Microsoft is already suffering from excess diversity.

Blogger ScuzzaMan October 17, 2015 6:58 AM  

"I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement."

Such humility.

As VD notes, it starts bad and gets rapidly worse.

The only response can be: Fuck off and die.

OpenID simplytimothy October 17, 2015 7:20 AM  

I haven't stated the "iron law of diversity", but I offer one consequence of it:

Open Source Software must become closed source to foster diversity, otherwise evil men will take an existing code-base (like X) and fork it.


Blogger bub October 17, 2015 7:57 AM  

An ambivalent person might peruse the bullet points, note the reference to force, and conclude "Why?"

Blogger Student in Blue October 17, 2015 7:59 AM  

I am beginning to wonder if Microsoft and the other software vendors are behind this open source code-of-conduct campaign, because nothing short of special ops assault teams could destroy their OSS competitors more effectively.

Well, with Intel practically taken over by SJWs as far as I can tell, and Microsoft being a large corporation as well... I'd say it's a little of column A, little of column B, with column A being Microsoft is encouraging this growth so their competitors are hampered, and column B being Microsoft is already taken over so the SJWs can't really infect it *more*.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler October 17, 2015 8:14 AM  

Bill Gates and Microsoft are one of the biggest purveyors of diversity. I noticed this with our Pentagon generals and their love of Political Correctness. All these "smart" guys, Pentagon Generals, Bill Gates, Corporate CEOs et al., are totally devoid of philosophical thinking. They are all smart in their jobs, they know their business but they are devoid of wisdom.

Anyway, this "cultural change" is what its all about. It is about "fixing the culture" to fit their Cultural Marxist goals. It is a religion.

Blogger James Higham October 17, 2015 8:37 AM  

Just been looking at her. First line I clicked out.

Blogger Rantor October 17, 2015 8:37 AM  

In an economic sense, shouldn'g basic human decency come down to paying someone based on what and how quickly they can accomplish something? I wouldn't pay a 90 pound weakling to build a new fence, why would I pay an intellectually stunted individual to write my code? It really has nothing to do with sex or color, we should judge people based on what they do. No hand holding, no special programs, they can either do the job or not. If the liberal educational institution they attended left them deficient to the task, they shouldn't be hired. Problem is, these univerisities today hand out diplomas to the unqualified. While I hate the whole HR system of certifying people for jobs, has this grown out of the problem of hiring the incompetent? Increased emphasis on nternal training and certification to make up for the lack of knowledge and critical thinking skills so many demonstrate, despite a BA or BS? problem is, if the 22 year old arrives without those skills, do you really think a few weeks of training will make up for a two decade learning defecit?

Anyway, what are Geekess qualifications for managing a successful Open Source IT enterprise? Or is she just trying to tell people how the world should work, regardless of who actually works and succeeds.

Blogger McChuck October 17, 2015 8:40 AM  

In an intellectual exercise of translating the intentions behind the words...

"I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement."
- I'm the one common thing in all my failed relationships and projects, but it can't possibly be my fault, you sexist, racist, homophobic, cis-gendered haters.
- I haven't destroyed every good thing in the entire world yet.

"Level 0: basic human decency"
- Cater to my every whim or I'll have you drawn, quartered, hanged, and burned.
- You cannot be a self-selecting, voluntary community of like-minded people. You will be assimilated and replaced. Those who resist or complain will be the first to go.

"Level 1: on-boarding"
- Now that we have obtained your replacements, you must train them.
- When the replacements don't perform to current standards, you must lower your standards because they're obviously racist and sexist.
- You must clearly explain the basic concepts that all the original members of the community understood before they joined to your replacements, who don't understand them because they have no background, talent, training, or interest in your community's main focus.

"Level 2: meaningful contributions"
- You must promote your replacements to positions of power in your organization, so they can enforce and perpetuate the program, regardless of their skills and aptitude.
- You must smile and say thank you for the privilege of watching your organization being destroyed from the inside, you sexist, racist, homophobic, cis-gendered haters.


OpenID aegis-1080 October 17, 2015 8:45 AM  

"I am beginning to wonder if Microsoft and the other software vendors are behind this open source code-of-conduct campaign, because nothing short of special ops assault teams could destroy their OSS competitors more effectively."

Hah, you doubt it? Large companies can affort to pay the diversity shakedown (and is a shakedown, one way or the other), small companies can't.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 8:55 AM  

Actually, I think Microsoft is already suffering from excess diversity.

It is, but that's the point: by encouraging these attacks, MS and other software behemoths could drag OSS down to their own level.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 8:57 AM  

"I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement."

Hamsterlation: "I've never found an open source community that wasn't made in My image."

Of course, they could make their own communities. If they were capable of making anything, or thought "making" was an activity worth doing.

Blogger Rantor October 17, 2015 8:57 AM  

So she quit the Linux community because badfeelz ... from her web site:

"Here’s the deal: I’m not a Linux kernel developer any more. I quietly transferred the maintainership of the USB 3.0 host controller driver in May 2014. In January 2015, I stepped down from being the Linux kernel coordinator for the FOSS Outreach Program for Women (OPW), and moved up to help coordinate the overall Outreachy program. As of December 6 2014, I gave what I hope is my last presentation on Linux kernel development. I was asked to help coordinate the Linux Plumbers Conference in Seattle in August 2015, and I said no. My Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board (TAB) term is soon over, and I will not be running for re-election.

Given the choice, I would never send another patch, bug report, or suggestion to a Linux kernel mailing list again. My personal boxes have oopsed with recent kernels, and I ignore it. My current work on userspace graphics enabling may require me to send an occasional quirks kernel patch, but I know I will spend at least a day dreading the potential toxic background radiation of interacting with the kernel community before I send anything."

Because Linux coders are still mostly loud mouthed, obnoxious and mean people she says...

OpenID homesteader1 October 17, 2015 9:00 AM  

So....

1.The NBA should have more Asians?
2. The WNBA should have more Transgenders?
3. Mecca should have more Churches?
4. Israell should have more Africans?
5. Gay Pride parades should have more Moslems?
6. " Take Back the Night"marches should have a "take back the prisons" contingent?

Remember, Diversity is a Birkenstock stamping on a Cis-Male Christian face, forever.

Blogger ZhukovG October 17, 2015 9:03 AM  

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Blogger Jim October 17, 2015 9:04 AM  

"but I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement."

Delusions of grandeur much? Where does this level of hubris come from/originate? I know I am smarter/more competent than some of the people I have met, but I never sought to make myself their master.

Blogger ZhukovG October 17, 2015 9:04 AM  

So Satan's new guise is some doe eyed chick who says " I just want everyone to get along, you know, golden rule, don't judge".

Then she'll say with a look of wistful sadness, "except those hateful Christian people, who sadly must be either reeducated, or removed from our safe area. At least they send their kids to public schools, where we can embrace them."

Blogger Markku October 17, 2015 9:10 AM  

Remember that you never receive anything from an opensource community. You only give to it, out of a sense of obligation because you don't want to be a freeloader.

But if the community doesn't want you, well, then your conscience is clean.

I would suggest that everyone join opensource communities, make themselves absolutely crucial to them by being invested in as much code as possible, then not apologise and have them drive you out. And leave your code a half-finished mess. That will incur quite the cost to them for this behavior.

Blogger Jim October 17, 2015 9:10 AM  

Just saw quotes from Rantor's post. Wow...

But you know, somehow, someway, I think Linux may just survive without her...

Blogger Markku October 17, 2015 9:11 AM  

Do NOT pre-emptively fork. Cause the pain first, and then fork.

Blogger Markku October 17, 2015 9:15 AM  

Now you still have your code. You are in a perfect position to finish what you were doing, and you can control your own new community. But immediately start putting an architechtural wedge between the old and the new project so that they cannot just easily grab your code (which they have the legal right to do) and plug it to theirs. Make that as difficult as possible by starting to change the underlying architechture while you are finishing the feature. Then your eventual finished code will be useless to them.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 17, 2015 9:17 AM  

That would be a good comedy sketch.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 9:18 AM  

Wait, this is Sarah Sharpe? So, when she was supposedly working on the Linux kernel and being oppressed by the patriarchy there, she was really working on this stuff. And she just happens to have a system of who/whom Levels worked out to release right after her tearful "departure." Which she just happened to announce (a year after the fact) when Linus was about to do a rare appearance, to piggyback on his notoriety.

She couldn't be more blatantly trying to set herself up as a Professional Feelz Monitor if she had blue hair and a nose ring. The only surprise is that her blog doesn't have a prominent link to a Patreon account, but maybe she already has enough corporate sponsors.

If this kind of endless bullet-point legalese doesn't convince people to keep SJWs out of their projects, I'm not sure what will. Who on earth would sign up to deal with all that -- or with the kind of people who want to?

Blogger Markku October 17, 2015 9:19 AM  

This is the time to INFILTRATE, not the time to take your toys and go home.

Blogger Markku October 17, 2015 9:20 AM  

Who can out-code the other? SJWs or us? Think about that. The one that can code better, is in the vastly superior position to harm the other.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 17, 2015 9:22 AM  

Thanks for finding this Vox. Very concrete.

I have always said that the reason women don't go into compsci is that they hate coding almost as much as they hate coders. Exceptions are about 1/100.

Blogger Rantor October 17, 2015 9:23 AM  

Oh no Cail, I could hear the dismissive if not abusive tone in your voice, Geekness may suffer more badfeelz.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 17, 2015 9:28 AM  

@36 was @13, Remo.

Blogger Markku October 17, 2015 9:31 AM  

Understand that the threat here is "obey us, or we will not allow you to work for us for free". This is not an effective threat.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 9:37 AM  

Delusions of grandeur much? Where does this level of hubris come from/originate?

It comes from being told all your life that you're a special snowflake, better than those rude boys, more spiritual, more intuitive, more creative, more empathetic. It comes from being chased by boys and treated like you have magic treasure under your clothes. It comes from growing up thinking that it's your due that someday a great guy (if not more than one) will get down on one knee, hold out a shiny rock that he worked three months to buy, and beg you to complete him.

And for "geek girls" specifically, multiply all that by a thousand, because the girl who walks into a room full of geeks and asks to play D&D or learn to code is treated approximately like a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader who walks into a frat party and says she loves playing Spin the Bottle.

That may change, though, if girls like her keep giving geeks this kind of peek behind the curtain at what she has planned for them.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell October 17, 2015 10:01 AM  

Judging by the dudebro ;) in the comments eating it up I suspect white male geeks know what's behind the curtain and don't care.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 10:12 AM  

@4 Amethyst Dominica

why isn't the Left mocking them?
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Because the Left are them. Fellow travellers and all that.

Blogger IM2L844 October 17, 2015 10:12 AM  

An SJW without an adversary is an SJW without an excuse.

Blogger Derek Kite October 17, 2015 10:15 AM  

These projects can be quite rough and tumble, but that goes with the territory. Bad choice or bad technique causes enormous amounts of grief for loss of people, and there is a fine line between open to contribution and a high walk to keep the idiots out. The more mature the project the higher the wall, by necessity.

I regard this as an attempt at hostile takeover. It is hard to steer the direction of an open source project, essentially it means years of very good work very good code. This is a far easier way to get rid of people you don't like, and create an in group defined by you. And taking control of the project. Not unlike the Hugo's. It is doomed to fail though, to get a complex system working requires enormous effort. All the good feelings won't generate code.

Blogger Derek Kite October 17, 2015 10:18 AM  

Xorg should be easy to control. Bare metal graphics hardware programming is easy, isn't it?

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 10:22 AM  

@30 Jim
"but I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement."

Delusions of grandeur much? Where does this level of hubris come from/originate?
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From the arrogance of female privilege.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 10:24 AM  

@34 Markku
Do NOT pre-emptively fork. Cause the pain first, and then fork.
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Make the rubble bounce? In this case, the tactic should be called FORK YOU - where you make the rubble bounce before forking :P

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 10:26 AM  

@37 Cail Corishev

Who on earth would sign up to deal with all that -- or with the kind of people who want to?
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I am fairly certain that it all stems from HR and legal departments.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 10:34 AM  

@48 Derek Kite

I regard this as an attempt at hostile takeover. It is hard to steer the direction of an open source project, essentially it means years of very good work very good code. This is a far easier way to get rid of people you don't like, and create an in group defined by you. And taking control of the project. Not unlike the Hugo's. It is doomed to fail though, to get a complex system working requires enormous effort. All the good feelings won't generate code.
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In a very concise manner you've described the entire process from start to attempted SJW Convergence, which is doomed to failure.

Blogger The Other Robot October 17, 2015 10:41 AM  

Who can out-code the other? SJWs or us? Think about that. The one that can code better, is in the vastly superior position to harm the other.

Hey, wait a minute! I thought that women were the first programmers*, just like Muslims were the first scientists.

* Ada Lovelace and Grace Murray Hopper wrote the first compiler (not.)

Blogger Duke of URL VFM#391 October 17, 2015 10:42 AM  

@6
"As the owner of a commercial software company, I applaud these developments in the OSS community."
You own me a clean keyboard, I laughed so hard at this.

Blogger Duke of URL VFM#391 October 17, 2015 10:43 AM  

aaargh - OWE, not own...

Blogger Durandel Almiras October 17, 2015 10:46 AM  

I don't know Cail, couldn't it also be that those who seek the position of Director of Goodfeelz and Diversitae do so because it grants power, status and money without requiring any developed skills or innate talents? A lowlife merely grasping for low hanging fruit?

Blogger The Other Robot October 17, 2015 10:47 AM  

Remember that you never receive anything from an opensource community. You only give to it, out of a sense of obligation because you don't want to be a freeloader.

Looking back at the first time I tried to contribute something (to sendmail) is was out of as sense of someone on the Internet was WRONG! :-)

Blogger Double E October 17, 2015 10:59 AM  

"... I’ve never found a ________ that doesn’t need improvement."

This could be the SJW motto

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 11:07 AM  

Durandel, yes, that's part of the reason: it's a shortcut to power for people who don't have the ability to earn it honestly, or simply don't want to do the work.

You can imagine it in other areas of life. Say you join a club, and there are things you like about it and things you don't. But the decisions are made by people who have been there for decades, fund-raising, volunteering, running committees, etc. You could follow their example, take on some grunt jobs no one else wants to do, and gradually work your way up to a respected position where you can make changes. But that could take decades. The other option is to take on those grunt jobs just long enough to get a couple pats on the back, and then say, "Hey, you know, we don't have an XYZ Committee. All the best clubs have one of those. How about I chair one? I know a couple people who might be willing to sit on it."

Odds are you'll get permission, because everyone else already has responsibilities, and if it's something that sounds vaguely annoying like "Community Diversity Outreach," they'll be glad someone else wants to do it. Pretty soon you're the XYZ person, and you don't have time for the grunt jobs anymore. You're being invited to meetings along with the other Committee chairs, because that's just how it works, and you're given a budget, because Committees have budgets. At some point, you can go into direct competition with them and begin remaking the organization, and it's happened far faster than the old-fashioned way.

Software coders, being highly rational, don't have much tolerance for this stuff. On the other hand, their distaste for it makes their organizations more susceptible in a way, because they're even more likely to say, "Yeah, go ahead with whatever you're nattering about, just don't bother me with it anymore." We can look at the example of GamerGate: gamers and game developers seemed like easy prey for a while, because they just weren't interested. But when they were forced to deal with it, they reacted more vigorously and without remorse than other groups.

Blogger Desiderius October 17, 2015 11:13 AM  

"Delusions of grandeur much? Where does this level of hubris come from/originate?"

The most rabid SJWs tend to be trustifarians.

If fire is focused on that (rather than their - fake - Leftness), a good chunk of the Left itself could be turned against them.

Blogger Noah B #120 October 17, 2015 11:14 AM  

Vegetarianism is murder. Life begins at germination.

OpenID true-poser October 17, 2015 11:19 AM  

Well, if you disregard "diversity" (used for entryism and for additional control while in power), these rules are similar to usual run-off-the-mill community management rules.

They are aimed at increasing headcount while retaining control (moral superiority is going to help here) and it's a sound business decision if you manage to inflate the headcount while not dropping ARPU that significantly.

In regards of actual output (bugfixes, features, releases), not only the ARPU analog will plummet, but the ARPPU analog as well (as productive members will be forced to spend their coding time on onboarding).

However, if the actual product is not the goal, but monetizing audience (support our gods' and goddesses' Patreons) or making the community itself a product (spreading ideology, clicking on advertising, participating in media pressure, etc) is, it may be quite a fruitful endeavor.

The loss of tempo and of the actual development results ain't likely to worry the audience. Even if a fork is done and it's progress is noticeably better, people who bought into that CoC will just reinforce their beliefs (they're doing better, because they oppress us).

I'd be wary of seeing a industry-wide conspiracy here, it's too hard for a circus. I think it's just an another facet of an encompassing cultural issue.

Blogger Unknown the Elder October 17, 2015 11:22 AM  

@12 ...what you suggest for a code...
Personally, I like Code of Conduct for Danby's Open Source Project.

Blogger Dan in Tx October 17, 2015 11:35 AM  

I notice that nowhere in that does she mention, you know, anything about actually doing the work she was supposedly hired to accomplish.

Blogger The Other Robot October 17, 2015 11:45 AM  

I have noticed that even in Silicon Valley startups management is obsessed with getting female engineers on board.

Blogger Eraser October 17, 2015 11:47 AM  

I have come to some scary conclusions about SJW attacks.

It is obvious that SJWs are targeting technical communities. Apart from OSS, feminist pressure has led to zero-tolerance policies at technical conferences so that a male will get thrown out immediately on any accusation of sexual harassment. Nerds/geeks are vulnerable to the social justice narrative, esp. due to the lack of women in the field and real or perceived social awkwardness.

Apart from that, I always assumed that the victims of SJW attacks who cave do so because they get scared or intimidated. But what if the victims also believe the narrative? I am not saying they won't regret it later, but at the moment when they apologize or resign, they really might be convinced that they are bad persons and the SJW attackers are right. The moment they regret it is already too late.

What I'm saying is that SJWs can convince their victims that the SJW is right and the victim is evil. This would mean that their attacks are even nastier than I had thought. It also makes me see neomasculinity and red-pill type stuff in a different light: as an effective preemptive defense.

Blogger Donn #0114 October 17, 2015 11:52 AM  

Read the comments. Utter drivel.

'Oh, it's othering to use minority I love 'diverse communities'. etc ad nauseum. If I didn't know the end goal of these people was simply control I'd be worried they would starve to death in their bedrooms afraid to come out of their doors.

This is the 'linux developer' who left? Good. If this is her level of thinking she can do nothing but sidetrack a project at best and stop it dead at worse.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 11:59 AM  

I think companies like Intel started providing a few sinecures for people like this, knowing they weren't doing much real work, as a protective measure. "If feminists show up at the gates with torches and pitchforks, we'll point them toward Sarah, our Chairperson of Moar Girls in Tech, she'll tell them how progressive we are and show them our brochures, and they'll go away."

But once you do that, they metastasize, and eventually their zany ideas actually become company goals, and you have major corporations putting real money behind total wackos.

Blogger Crude October 17, 2015 12:01 PM  

The next step is figuring out what to do with these eager new diverse candidates. If they’ve made it this far through the gauntlet of toxic tech culture, they’re likely to be persistent, smart, and seeking a challenge. If you don’t have meaningful bigger projects for them to contribute to, they’ll move onto the next shiny thing.

So, it's not enough to bend over backwards to make every 'diverse' candidate more comfortable - you also have to make sure to give them priority status when it comes to contributing itself, or else they'll leave. Also, how is it 'likely' that they'll be smart?

I imagine that what's next is, 'And if they do a lousy job of contributing, it's important not to point this out, or else you'll scare them - and future diverse candidates - away. Is the project really so important that you'll undercut the next minority Bill Gates before they even get off the ground?'

Blogger bob k. mando October 17, 2015 12:03 PM  

43. Markku October 17, 2015 9:31 AM
Understand that the threat here is "obey us, or we will not allow you to work for us for free". This is not an effective threat.



it is, against White Knights.



4. Amethyst Dominica October 17, 2015 3:42 AM
but why isn't the Left mocking them?



i don't know how many times this needs to be repeated but here goes:

this is NOT an 'accident'. this NEVER WAS an 'accident'. this is them playing on YOUR sense of 'fair play'.

they are sociopaths ( or some other neuro-deviancy ), and you never have meant a damn thing to them except what they can leach off of you.

Cultural Marxism has ALWAYS been founded on an overt Narcissism-as-good:
https://youtu.be/EjaBpVzOohs?t=17m40s

and, just as you would expect from a Narcissist, they offer NO RESPECT for anyone who does not kiss their ass:
https://youtu.be/EjaBpVzOohs?t=19m5s

Blogger Tom Arrow October 17, 2015 12:05 PM  

I should suggest this to my martial arts teacher. Let the newcomers contribute here and there. Fucking privilege!

OpenID Jack Amok October 17, 2015 12:08 PM  

Actually, I think Microsoft is already suffering from excess diversity.

There is a certain temporal correlation between a large influx of dot-not-feathers and the company changing from one who's products generally got better year after year to one who's products generally got worse. Of course there's also a correlation between Jon Shirley retiring as President and Ballmer taking a bigger role too.

OpenID Jack Amok October 17, 2015 12:14 PM  

I imagine that what's next is, 'And if they do a lousy job of contributing, it's important not to point this out, or else you'll scare them - and future diverse candidates - away.

Crude, the very act of judging their work is hateful and our Code of Conduct will have NO TOLERANCE for such divisive (hey, why does "divisive" look so much like "diversity" anyway?) behavior.

Remember, there is NO PLACE in our community for people who are not inclusive.

Blogger Kallmunz October 17, 2015 12:30 PM  

Do we really need another reason to hate Richard Stallman? Yes.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-10/msg00862.html

Blogger Derek Kite October 17, 2015 12:39 PM  

The really strange thing about this is that in my experience open source software projects love people who show up willing to do something. The learning curve is usually very steep, there are alot of mistakes already made that if repeated will get a response. People do things a certain way, usually for a reason. Find out the reasons, get to know the other developers by their work, do something useful and no matter who you are you will be accepted. Not for your opinions but for your willingness to do the hard work.

I work in an almost 100% male field, mostly due to the physical demands as will as the required continuity that the customers demand. I've had numerous men all me for jobs, but never a woman. There are women in the field, and what characterizes them is their thorough enjoyment of working with men. Not in a sexualized way, but they enjoy the rough and tumble, and indeed stand out by their excellence on their own terms; they are not men or even equals, but carve out a profitable niche wthattheir own skills and qualities.

I liked hanging around open source projects simply because it was the easiest way to be around people smarter than me. I suspect that much of the teeth grinding is the refusal to accept that. Stupid people intent on lowering the bar so they can feel superior.

Blogger Cinco October 17, 2015 12:43 PM  

SJWs define "good community"

I live in an all white community/rural subdivision. As best I can tell there is not one single asian, black, hispanic, etc. in the neighborhood. For the first time since I was 12, I went to an old fashioned block party. Everyone showed up, the legion of children prowled the neighborhood and everyone had a good time. It was $20k extra to live in this neighborhood, after living there a year, I would have paid $80k.

Blogger Calvin Dodge October 17, 2015 12:46 PM  

Perhaps her fellow SJWs will deliver her comeuppance. After all, she's using a gender-specific term for herself, and that sort of thing is generally verboten in enlightened domains - like Hollywood.

Blogger Cecil Henry October 17, 2015 1:08 PM  

What is this coercive dishonesty about 'diverse' communities and the need for it that SJW;'s espouse???


Any truly free, voluntary community will be converging towards a high though never total degree of homogeneity. NOT diversity.

Similar values, similar interests, accepted standards, similar goals and vision of life.

A close knit productive group heading towards prosperity is not in fact diverse. It may be open, but it members will have a lot in common of whatever is important.

Blogger David-2 October 17, 2015 1:53 PM  

The key to the entire SJW project is in the second sentence: " I’ve never found an open source community that doesn’t need improvement". Yup, no matter where you are it isn't where they want you to be. No matter how much you've already bent to their wishes it isn't enough. The goalposts will keep moving. Until they have total physical and mental control over you: You're racissst, etc.

Also revealing is the third sentence: "I’m quite happy to give the Xorg community a chance." Xe's got much better things to do with much better people than you, but maybe you're not quite hopeless, xe's going to give you a chance. You should be grateful.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 2:01 PM  

Also, how is it 'likely' that they'll be smart?

There's an underlying belief, shared by almost everyone, that adding women makes anything better. It's assumed that a bunch of unsupervised men will spend all their time talking about boobs, spitting on the floor, farting, watching sports, and playing video games. So bringing in women will not only make the group nicer and prettier, it will also make them more productive as the women shape up the men.

So the programmer who heads up an all-male software project knows that bringing in some girl coders would make the project better -- not just kinder and more pleasant, but actually producing better code. He doesn't know how, but they must be smarter and more dedicated and more cooperative and so on. He knows this even if he's never met a female programmer, or if all the ones he's met came in with a fanfare and then left with a flounce after losing interest. They were exceptions, or it was the fault of the male programmers for not letting the magic work. He knows that his project is suffering from a lack of estrogen.

So it's not just leftists who buy into this. Apolitical, conservative, or libertarian project leaders, if their eyes haven't been opened to SJW goals and tactics, will assume their projects can benefit from Moar Girls because they assume that everything benefits from Moar Girls.

Blogger The Other Robot October 17, 2015 2:07 PM  

SJWs are being chastised everywhere, especially in Germany.

Blogger The Other Robot October 17, 2015 2:11 PM  

Was the diversity at the top worth it for MacDonalds?

Once the gangrene sets in all you can do is amputate. Changing CEOs doesn't help.

Blogger Geir Balderson October 17, 2015 2:26 PM  

"And it just gets worse, until the whole thing is run by non-white women, "

Scalzi is in a heap of trouble! He must transform hisself into a women of colour.

Blogger James Dixon October 17, 2015 2:27 PM  

> It was $20k extra to live in this neighborhood, after living there a year, I would have paid $80k.

In some of rural areas you can get that for $100K less. :) Of course, there don't tend to be any block parties because there are no blocks. Your nearest neighbor tends to be 1/4 to 1/2 mile away or more.

> There's an underlying belief, shared by almost everyone, that adding women makes anything better.

Oh, they do. If they're given the right jobs. The Chinese are all over this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3208366/Programming-cheerleaders-hired-motivate-Chinese-employees.html

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 2:29 PM  

@62 Noah B #120
Vegetarianism is murder. Life begins at germination.
---

YOU ARE GROOT

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 2:38 PM  

@72 Tom Arrow
I should suggest this to my martial arts teacher. Let the newcomers contribute here and there. Fucking privilege!
---

When I was a n00b at martial arts, the senior students loved to use us as living practice dummies and whipping boys lol.

One guy I recall told me "One day you'll love getting punched in the face"

Blogger ScuzzaMan October 17, 2015 2:46 PM  

A German official lets the cat out of the bag: tells German to leave Germany if they don't like their property being confiscated and given to invading aliens.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eab_1445033279

(Only GROOT is GROOT!)

OpenID Steve October 17, 2015 2:50 PM  

When leftists say "meaningful contributions" they sure as hell don't mean merit based objective positive contributions by the non Asian minorities. There is a reason Morgan Freeman is the only smart black actor you see in movies, he is the only one that can pass without increasing the shooting time by a factor of 5. As shown in this hiring of ICE T to narrate a young adult short story scheduled for an afternoon but needing 2 extra days ""Let me read some porno or something -- a sex book -- I know about that."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/06/ice-t-recorded-and-dungeons-audiobook_n_4738871.html
HR ladies wet themselves thinking of the possibility of hiring competent non Asian minorities.-BGS

Blogger VD October 17, 2015 3:43 PM  

Do we really need another reason to hate Richard Stallman? Yes.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-10/msg00862.html


Notice the tell. He couldn't quite bring himself to say that it actually was good advice. But it seems like it. Sure.

OpenID Steve October 17, 2015 4:06 PM  

If diverse candidates are only 1-10% of newcomers, but you have a 90% fail rate for people who try to make their first contribution, well

Don't have standards, any form of merit based testing is racist against non Asian minorities. Just because 9/10 whites fail to make the standard doesn't mean you should hold Shitivious Cook to the same standard.

It’s also essential to explain your unwritten tribal knowledge, so that diverse candidates

Don't Muhdick women in the parking garage, don't steal stuff, don't shit in the hallways of the EPA if you work there.

The next step is figuring out what to do with these eager new diverse candidates

Definition- what to do with the black that only shows up 15 min late. Adopt Bon Secours policy of paying people extra each day they show up on time & extra if they go 2 weeks without missing a shift, you can pretend equality exists by expecting people to show up on time to get the wages.

If they’ve made it this far through the gauntlet of toxic tech culture, they’re likely to be too stupid/lazy to cause problems other than downloading porn viruses.

food served at conferences is vegetarian, drinking is banned, and the code of conduct explicitly acknowledges the spectrum of privilege

People used to be able to smoke and drink alcohol inside hospitals.

Just what is Diversity supposed to do anyway? Why is it better than non-diversity?

That way 3rd worlders that can not even read their home tongue can have someone paid to translate for them as they get taxpayer paid freebies.

, I stepped down from being the Linux kernel coordinator for the FOSS Outreach Program for Women (OPW), and moved up to help coordinate the overall Outreachy program

I stopped pretending to do tech work and now I just cry that successful endeavors have no non-Asian die verse city.
BigGaySteve

Blogger ray October 17, 2015 4:31 PM  

Couple decades ago I finally came to terms with what was meant in America by the word 'community'. Means the same thing as Diversity and Tolerance and Equality and Egalitarianism -- white males can apply for membership in the 'community' but the community is run by, and for, women and the FI. Men who think different are only fooling themselves.

By community what America means is commie-gynarchy ruled by women and enforced by paid men. No thanks on belonging to your communities.

Blogger ray October 17, 2015 5:05 PM  

"Nothing says consent like force. The manacles just make it sexy. Drink this, it'll loosen you up. Creepy, creepy Sarah Sharp. She's no psychopath. Trust her. Just do what she says. It needs to be enforced."


Much more needs to be done. Then things will be fine . . . great, even. Just requires more men and laws enforcing the will of Sarah Sharp and the 100 million others pretty much just like her. Then we all can be part of the Community!

The only reason we haven't passed Sarah's Law yet is because, well, there are a lot of other female names to work through, and we're going alphabetically. For the sake of inclusion. But we'll get around to making Sarah's personal pathology the Law of the Land pretty quick! It's for everybody's protection. Hm where are my abortion tongs?

OpenID would-be-tellin October 17, 2015 5:47 PM  

Do we really need another reason to hate Richard Stallman? Yes.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-10/msg00862.html


Notice the tell. He couldn't quite bring himself to say that it actually was good advice. But it seems like it. Sure.

Oh, he's a gamma through and through, if you go by the "constantly tells lies to feel good about himself" rule. Note from that email how he's now referring to himself as a "Dr"; he dropped out of graduate school after a year, that's referring to the honorary degrees he's received. He either has a girlfriend or claims to have never had one, because if they break up, then the relationship was never real.

And then we get to the constant lies about pretty much everything technical and organizational starting with his tale of woe about the decline and fall of the MIT AI Lab, where his biggest problem was running out of people willing to eat lunch with him, although only a few of those went to Symbolics. Or see for example his attempt to claim Linux as a small part of the GNU project, and insisting Linux systems be called GNU/Linux (he's a terrible project and product manager, so GNU's kernel named Hurd is right up there with plenty of semi-infinitely long game project gestations). A dangerous cult leader, who has, though, done some very important things, but he's much less of a top league hacker than he's self-portrays. For example, other people started the big systems of software he claims moral ownership of, he's a refiner/copycat rather than a technical innovator.

Blogger epobirs October 17, 2015 6:05 PM  

Bob specializes in video drivers.
Jim is focused on audio functionality.
Del has devoted himself to storage I/O.

That is all the diversity an OSS project needs. One of these people might have green hair and extensive surgical mods to his genitalia. Nobody cares because they've never been in the same room with whatever it is. All that matters is the code.

OpenID rterwilliger October 17, 2015 7:28 PM  

For many years, Sarah Sharp was a well-respected kernel developer. Unlike most of the other "women in tech" flakes, Sarah had solid technical chops; she headed up USB 3.0 integration and handled the various growing pains that entailed. A few years ago she started going a little nuts, criticizing Linus in public and gaining a noticeable amount of weight. Looking at her blog, you could tell that she was always pretty far left wing, but it wasn't until recently that these silly identity politics games became more important to her than actual work.

Interestingly, Intel recruited her right out of grad school to the USB project, and she had little or no prior experience in software. One might wonder if perhaps she has the aptitude to work with computers for a living, but her true passions lie elsewhere.

Also unlike most of her SJW peers, she is married, albeit to a sad little manlet.

Note that the blog comments are heavily moderated, and any hint that you doubt the narrative is cause for deletion. Even if you pretend to be a woman.

Blogger chris October 17, 2015 8:36 PM  

Linus did the correct thing. Opened the door and let her out.
Diversity, to code, is poison.
All this follows Pournelle's Iron law: the second generation is all about preserving the organization, and thus lose sight of the goal of the organization.

Blogger The Other Robot October 17, 2015 8:49 PM  

For many years, Sarah Sharp was a well-respected kernel developer.

Really?

Blogger Were-Puppy October 17, 2015 9:07 PM  

Even if she was a respected kernel developer, that doesn't mean she actually did anything. It was probably all PR.

Blogger Unknown the Elder October 17, 2015 10:44 PM  

SJWs, hairdressers, and telephone sanitizers are to go with the B Fork.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 17, 2015 11:34 PM  

Even if she was a respected kernel developer, that doesn't mean she actually did anything. It was probably all PR.

Possibly. Any female who signs up with an OS project automatically gets an extra helping of respect and fame unless she refuses it. Before she was exposed as an abusive freak, many would have called Randi Harper a respected FreeBSD developer, but you'll be hard-pressed to find any actual code to prove it.

So there's really no way to know, other than going to the code and looking for yourself at her commits, and you'd have to know a little about it yourself to judge that. The fact that a person had a commit bit for several years means nothing; claims from others about her importance mean nothing. Code don't lie.

OpenID rterwilliger October 18, 2015 12:27 AM  

Believe what you want to believe. I'm counting 380 commits, many of which solved non-trivial problems. Colleagues who have worked with her all had positive things to say.

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/?qt=author&q=sarah.a.sharp

So it's sad, because after this embarrassing public meltdown, no sane manager will ever hire her. Instead of drawing attention to her superb technical work she has relegated herself to Whiny Token Female On Twitter status. Also, she isn't cute anymore.

After her 15 minutes of fame are up, she'll likely get pregnant, deliver a mocha-colored baby, and lay low for a couple of years.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 18, 2015 1:26 AM  

Right, you have to look at the code. I glanced at a few commits myself, and though I don't know the project well enough to say it's "superb," it looks like she knew what she was doing.

But that raises a new question: if you know a woman in tech who seems productive and easy to deal with -- Sarah Sharpe circa 2011, let's say -- should you worry that she's a ticking time bomb, waiting to go off and spray feminist crazy all over everything? Seems to me she's doing a disservice to any women who really do just want to work in tech and not be activists.

Blogger Groot October 18, 2015 2:01 AM  

@96. rterwilliger:
"Also unlike most of her SJW peers, she is married, albeit to a sad little manlet."

Link? I could use a laugh.

Blogger Unknown October 18, 2015 8:19 AM  

Working in software I've always found it to be rewarding to be in company of smart people and exactly NOT have to put up with the petty nastiness of "diverse" geeks-with-attitude and various other SJW-type punks.

Their next station may well be space exploration projects - nothing could possibly show more success than putting the first happy trans family on Orion, after all.

Here is another warning sign of the fuck-up Linux is becoming (pic under green line):
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/

In the meantime I'll go looking for another USB driver.

OpenID would-be-tellin October 18, 2015 10:00 AM  

Right, you have to look at the code. I glanced at a few commits myself, and though I don't know the project well enough to say it's "superb," it looks like she knew what she was doing.

I have experience programming at this level, and her work looks very good. It demonstrates understanding of a messy hardware ecosystem (there are many companies producing hardware that connects with USB, and those hardware types tend to be bad at software), the relevant Linux device driver code, knowledge of or the ability to research Linux kernel history to suggest how far back fixes might be safely backported (for long term kernel support) and an ability to write up this sort of stuff (which I suppose is required for working on the Linux kernel). It's critically important to Linux, which isn't all that great a kernel, but due to historical luck and higher level policies has an unmatched suite of device drivers that can't be used by any other kernel. This sort of work might not get much respect, though, it's not the same thing as for example writing a new scheduler. Which I use as an example because of the single most ugly Linux development story I know of is Linus and company rejecting a scheduler written by an outsider on the grounds he was an outsider, not technical merits.

But that raises a new question: if you know a woman in tech who seems productive and easy to deal with -- Sarah Sharpe circa 2011, let's say -- should you worry that she's a ticking time bomb, waiting to go off and spray feminist crazy all over everything? Seems to me she's doing a disservice to any women who really do just want to work in tech and not be activists.

Sobering. Reminds me of an experience with an entirely competent peer woman programmer who didn't like me at a personal level, who after getting elevated to manager of our group her first order of business was getting me fired by underhanded methods such as not telling me about customer meetings where my attendance was essential. All that ignored the minor detail that as the architect and senior programmer of the company's major product, she also killed it, her job, and eventually the company.

That was two decades ago; sounds like too many of the current crop of women in tech are indeed "ticking time bombs" with how much further this sort of disastrous behavior is encouraged, especially with the web making the field a thousand times bigger and drawing in a lot more people who aren't well suited to it, or just plain not competent enough like Randi Harper. If there are any Grace Hoppers or Fran Allens out there, I'm not hearing about them.

OpenID rterwilliger October 18, 2015 1:03 PM  

@104. Groot:

You can search around for Jamey Sharp:

https://plus.google.com/photos/+SarahSharp/albums/5422645673434965745/5426359474865120514

Looking through Sarah's historical blog posts is revealing: From 2008-2010 she wrote about USB specifications, Linux HOWTOs, and other technical matters. Then there was a bit of a lull; and from 2013-2015 nearly every post was about outreach programs, Linus Torvalds is a Big Meanie, and other low-value SJW rubbish.

We know that women, by their nature, are far more conformist and suggestible than men. One could speculate that in the absence of a strong male authority figure, any woman immersed in a safe, progressive, lily-white SWPL environment like Portland is highly vulnerable to the leftists' emotional manipulation - regardless of her intellect or self-interest.

Sadly, more than a few men[sic] in the tech industry suffer from the same problem.

Blogger The Other Robot October 18, 2015 1:47 PM  

We know that women, by their nature, are far more conformist and suggestible than men. One could speculate that in the absence of a strong male authority figure, any woman immersed in a safe, progressive, lily-white SWPL environment like Portland is highly vulnerable to the leftists' emotional manipulation - regardless of her intellect or self-interest.

I think it is simpler than that. I think her baby-making instincts were hitting her hard up the back of the head and, in a typical feminine fashion, she created a large emotional train wreck to justify withdrawing so she could make a baby because those mean men were mean to her and other diverse candidates in tech.

As one of the token women in tech she was probably under too much pressure to succeed in that quintessentially male domain to simply withdraw and have babies.

Blogger bw October 18, 2015 2:49 PM  

Tax dollars went to fund this decades ago in Govt work.
Coercive Govt went coercive MultiCulti first, 3-4 decades ago (from what I can tell) and the Govt workers accepted it in the name of the material and ego temptations, and the rest accept it because they don't take the time to think the offense through, or because they believe the lie (it's "necessary, essential, and benevolent).
Welcome to the Govt Jobs Project's utopian unionized pensioned net-consumer employment MultiCulti parasite paradise "for the children".
Government work, and thus workers, have long been full blown materialist and psych SJW.
I note this as one having a family full of such, to include both parents and extending outwards.

Blogger Jim Milo October 18, 2015 9:20 PM  

@27

"Boys are icky. I'm going to take my bat and ball and go home, and wait for Daddy to come home and take me for ice cream!"

Blogger Dirk Manly October 18, 2015 9:46 PM  

I had an class, Organizational Psychology, and the prof was a clinical psychologist. Every, and I mean EVERY time she said the word "diversity", she set it apart from the rest of the sentence, like a magician saying, "Abracadabra"

It would have been hilarious if it wasn't so pitifully stupid and FUBAR.

Blogger VFM 188 October 19, 2015 8:57 AM  

Those who seek the position of Director of Goodfeelz and Diversitae do so because it grants power, status and money without requiring any developed skills or innate talents....

Not exactly. A successful SJW must have crucial skills and talents to acquire and expand power over others. This is the essence of the SJW disease, one many SJW's may not even be aware of (which is one reason SJW's will never acknowledge ill intent; they may not even know they are lying). SJWism is both insidious and successful because it is cloaked in terms of help and service to others. Historically monarchy, feudalism, communism, Islam, fascism, Nazism...all were (and are) forms of the disease. All proclaim to serve those in need, and are/were wildly popular in their time and place, being widely supported by concerned, well-meaning people.

SJWism is a disease innate to human nature. It must be understood and confronted as such. Historically Magna Carta, the Articles of Confederation, and the Bill of Rights are examples of efforts to deal with it. Countless books have suggested ways to deal with the disease, from John Locke and Adam Smith, to Von Mises and Hayek, to Rand, Rothbard, and many others. Today we have another entrant, and it is excellent for its time: SJWs Always Lie.

Blogger SirHamster October 19, 2015 5:00 PM  

Here is another warning sign of the fuck-up Linux is becoming (pic under green line):
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/


I couldn't see it on the phone and looked it up just now on a PC.

My eyes regret my curiosity, and I now nominate the photo for Dark Ninja Steve's collection of anti-pron.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 19, 2015 5:19 PM  

Here is another warning sign of the fuck-up Linux is becoming (pic under green line):

In the past, they would have found the hottest Fedora-using woman for that pic. Now they pick one who's aggressively unattractive, as if to say, "Hey, we obviously didn't pick her for her looks, so you know she's the real deal."

On the other hand, maybe she IS the hottest Fedora-using woman.

Blogger Groot October 20, 2015 1:09 AM  

@112. VFM 188:

Hear, hear! Well said, 188. Groot approves.

@114. Cail Corishev:

Witness the Succubus of Moar. She (to be polite) has eaten the original model, but, even so, a "Flood" speaks of a "plethora." To follow, an argosy, a gold mine, the mother lode, truly a treasure trove, the very wellspring of muchness will ineluctably enter its maw, never satisfied, never sated. The chins must be fed!

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