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Monday, October 12, 2015

The only sane candidate

It's rather remarkable, astonishing really, that Donald Trump is the only candidate in either party whose public statements aren't either completely a) irrelevant, or b) insane:
Donald Trump, the Republican Party presidential front-runner, was talking about Mrs. Merkel’s invitation to migrants on the American political interview show, ‘Face The Nation’.

Mr Trump said: “I do not like the migration. I do not like the people coming”. Instead he favours “a safe zone for people”, an idea on which he expanded.

He said: “Frankly, look, Europe is going to have to handle — but they’re going to have riots in Germany. What’s happening in Germany, I always thought Merkel was like this great leader. What she’s done in Germany is insane. It is insane. They’re having all sorts of attacks.”

Mr Trump was talking about the decision to throw open Germany’s doors to Syrian migrants taken by Frau Merkel in August, which Breitbart London previously reported. The ‘open doors’ policy is an idea for which she has come under attack, even from those within her own political ranks.

“What they should do is get all the countries together, including the Gulf States, which have nothing but money. They should all get together and they should take a big swath of land in Syria.

“They should do a safe zone for people where they could live. And then ultimately go back to their country, go back to where they came from.”
And then start sending the Somalis and every other group of "refugees" back to safe zones in their own countries. Because they are rapidly and actively transforming the USA into the very third world hellholes from which they came.

I don't care what any candidate has to say about any issue except immigration. There is no longer any other issue that matters.

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113 Comments:

Blogger Cecil Henry October 12, 2015 5:31 PM  

Amen,. But common sense is rare because there is an agenda that is fighting common sense.

Its a relief that a least Trump is able to speak some sense to the MSM.

Blogger Harry Spitz October 12, 2015 5:36 PM  

I am kinda fond of Cruz, myself.

But the question is, how much of what Trump (or any candidate) says can we believe? We know that Trump has changed his coat at least twice.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 5:41 PM  

But the question is, how much of what Trump (or any candidate) says can we believe? We know that Trump has changed his coat at least twice.

This time, it's different?

Blogger bw October 12, 2015 5:43 PM  

they are rapidly and actively transforming the USA into the very third world hellholes from which they came

Mission Accomplished!

Blogger The Anti-Gnostic October 12, 2015 5:45 PM  

"I don't care what any candidate has to say about any issue except immigration. There is no longer any other issue that matters."

Correct.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 12, 2015 5:48 PM  

But the question is, how much of what Trump says can we believe?

All of it. Especially the lies.

Blogger VD October 12, 2015 5:49 PM  

But the question is, how much of what Trump (or any candidate) says can we believe? We know that Trump has changed his coat at least twice.

When the alternative are those candidates who don't even have the sense to PRETEND to be against immigration, there is no choice. If Trump is playing to the crowd, at least he is playing to the crowd. Maybe he'll even continue to do so.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 5:50 PM  

When the alternative are those candidates who don't even have the sense to PRETEND to be against immigration, there is no choice. If Trump is playing to the crowd, at least he is playing to the crowd.

Trump has consistently said that he's not opposed to immigration, just illegal immigration.

Blogger Tank October 12, 2015 5:54 PM  

Also, Paul Ryan equals Merkel.

Blogger ray October 12, 2015 5:56 PM  

Our Hero 'always thought Merkel was this great leader'? Upon what evidence? That western elites shoehorned her into position (hello Barry!) and now she's a big-shot? What has she PERSONALLY accomplished to warrant Trump's assumption of great leadership?

It's bad enough that American men support the 'leadership' of other men by a female . . . a NWO female, even worse. That alone is sufficient to corrupt and destroy your nations. But pandering about her 'great leadership' is just most cuckservatism. Angela needs to check her privilege, and Donnie needs to check his nads.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 5:58 PM  

What has she PERSONALLY accomplished to warrant Trump's assumption of great leadership?

She wanted to Make Germany Great Again.

Blogger Phillip George October 12, 2015 5:58 PM  

1. You can't be generous with other people's money. That isn't generous, it's theft.
2. Your "teenage" niceness isn't going to infect everyone with altruism and benevolence.
3. Jesus isn't Mohammad, Mohammad isn't Jesus.
4. Russia has not destabilised Syria.
5. Free Syrian Army is an oxymoron.
6. The West could, once upon a time, export civility. It can no longer export/ create or impose what it no longer possesses.
7. Jesus or die basically. It's empiricism. Rationality. Actual history. A paradigm. Non relativistic. Truth. He's also, inevitable. Like aging, entropy and recreation. So cut to the chase. Tune your instruments. Celebrate the only life.

Blogger frigger611 October 12, 2015 5:59 PM  

I have to agree, Trump is the ONLY guy giving voice to this ugly and dangerous idea of open borders, rape by immigration, and multi-culturalism.
He may be a buffoon, social inept and awkward, politically unsavvy, and has changed his mind and sides over the years. So what. He is the only one I can take seriously, precisely because he remains so unpolished. What a novelty, a man who speaks his mind and makes you believe he'll follow through.

BTW, every conservative I have ever voted for has changed positions and stuck a knife in my back once winning the lottery ticket of public office (maybe except Reagan for the most part), so that's really a non-starter.

Blogger VFM 188 October 12, 2015 6:00 PM  

But the question is, how much of what Trump says can we believe?

How much can you believe the other candidates, all of whom support the ongoing invasion? The answer is, "it doesn't matter; no other candidate even pretends support for closing the borders." Only Trump.

Blogger Randy M October 12, 2015 6:00 PM  

If they elect someone who says "Let's not take in 10,000 refugees" and he does so, it will at least have a clarifying effect for people, and there is the slim chance he will stick to it.

Blogger Randy M October 12, 2015 6:02 PM  

"Also, Paul Ryan equals Merkel."

I regret supporting him 4 years ago.

Blogger Patrick October 12, 2015 6:03 PM  

Trump is on fire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3269718/Trump-gives-young-feminist-brush-equal-pay-abortion-going-make-good-job-happen-pro-life.html

Blogger ray October 12, 2015 6:04 PM  

“They should do a safe zone for people where they could live. And then ultimately go back to their country, go back to where they came from.”


Yup. Plenty of oil money for that. Aside from Christians fleeing from authentic persecution, the rest need to be harbored by their own Arab and African nations.

But of course they don't want their own nations. They want what's left of ours.

Blogger VFM 188 October 12, 2015 6:09 PM  

He may be a buffoon, socially inept and awkward, politically unsavvy, and...remains so unpolished.

He is none of those thing. He's a very smart, tough, savvy customer, and is neither a "buffoon" nor "socially inept" nor "awkward" in any way. The man has made billions of dollars running a worldwide business empire for the past 40 years while traveling at the very apex of society, all the while under the hostile, glaring eye of the media. Try that sometime.

Blogger ray October 12, 2015 6:12 PM  

#12 -- Tune up is right. Hey, mebbe they hate Jesus a little less now, seeing that he's a 'Palestinian'.

Sigh. If only Jesus wasn't one of those . . . MALE things. Then he'd be perfect for our New Transformed Nations! Not that the churches haven't done everything they could, already, to geld him.

Blogger Bill October 12, 2015 6:12 PM  

"I don't care what any candidate has to say about any issue except immigration. There is no longer any other issue that matters."

Should'a put quotes around that and credited Ann Coulter (and me, and about 50 million other Americans). That right there is The Truth.

Blogger Matamoros October 12, 2015 6:20 PM  

@7 & @13

Amen!

Blogger JCclimber October 12, 2015 6:20 PM  

In the same interview I believe he did a credible job of clarifying his thoughts on the 2nd Amendment, and was quite frank about why he has his own CCW permit.

One thing to be mindful of, with Trump, that I think many of the Ilk do not seem to understand. He is not a professional politician, who has been carefully watching everything he says in public for several decades.

Therefore, many of his quotes that are being frantically unearthed seem to be showing him to be pro-abortion, or pro gun control, or pro immigration, etc...

His popularity continues to underline just how pathetic most of the other candidates are when it comes to taking a principled stance on any issue of substance.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 12, 2015 6:20 PM  

Our Hero 'always thought Merkel was this great leader'?

Absent other evidence, Trump tends to assume that anyone who's made it to the top of a field got there by being awesome at it. See also his admiration for Oprah. Given his own life, it's not hard to see why he'd like to think that's how it works.

Also, he has a tendency to default to saying positive things about important people. Ask him about some leader, and he'd say, "Yeah, she's doing a great job." Why not? It cost him nothing, and he might want a favor from her someday. Why burn a bridge for no reason? And he's just not a "no comment" kind of guy; that would imply there's a topic he's not on top of.

Fortunately, he's willing to admit he was wrong and change his mind about a person once he learns the truth, though he can hang onto his preconceptions a while.

Blogger RobertT October 12, 2015 6:21 PM  

Donald Trump is the only hope we have. I've been on his bandwagon ever since he said the people running our country are all idiots. How can you dislike a guy who communicates so well?. If you still have doubts, buy his book "The Art of The Deal". That should resolve all your fears.

Blogger VFM 188 October 12, 2015 6:22 PM  

Trump is on fire.

Indeed he is: Donald Trump gave a young feminist the back of his hand on Monday [in New Hampshire}, dismissing her demand for absolute pay equity by insisting that women and men should earn the same salary only if their job performances match up.

He doesn't take shit from idiots. And for those of you questioning "whether we can believe him," I submit he couldn't possibly talk like that if it wasn't coming from his core.

Blogger overcaffeinated October 12, 2015 6:22 PM  

Seems reasonable. Should have called it a safe space though...

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 6:24 PM  

How can you dislike a guy who communicates so well?

He wants to Make America Great Again!

If you still have doubts, buy his book "The Art of The Deal".

#1 selling business book of all time!*

*not really

Blogger frigger611 October 12, 2015 6:24 PM  

@19. VFM He may be a buffoon, socially inept and awkward, politically unsavvy, and...remains so unpolished.

He is none of those thing.

He has said some really stupid things. Talking about Carly Fiorina's ugly face was monumentally stupid, caused him to lose ground. Not smart. Then he looked like an idiot later when he called her "beautiful." I don't care at all for Megyn Kelly but to continue sniping in a twitter battle.. Well, I prefer that grown men don't engage in Twitter battles.

Yes, he is smart, a successful businessman, etc, which takes brains and talent.

Sometimes it would be better for his own cause (if he wants to be in politics) to better measure his words, that's all. He won't win on your vote and mine alone, he needs to convince many more, that will require clear thinking and speaking.

For all his faults (which can be corrected and he is improving) he remains my choice precisely for the reasons Vox describes. Let's hope he can reign in the occasional boorishness, doesn't do any good to pretend it's not there at times.

Blogger RobertT October 12, 2015 6:24 PM  

#9. "Also, Paul Ryan equals Merkel."

Ditto, or worse. Probably worse because he's a conservative rock star. May he follow his buddy Walker into the wild blue wonder.

Blogger Arborist (#0232) October 12, 2015 6:25 PM  

It would be irrational for a thoughtful person to pick nits about Trump's possible dishonesty when you compare him to any other candidate. Trump delivering two thirds of what he is promising is far and away a better choice than any other candidate delivering one hundred percent. He is as committed as we can hope for to issue number one.

I do very little talking here but I could not possibly do more listening and observing. A Christian, with prayer, seeking to exercise good judgement, will find much to consider in this man. We will not be offered a perfect candidate.

OT- I request your prayers for me and my family as I am considering a new job and a likely relocation. Part of my motivation is upgrading to a less SJW infected organization. Thank you and God bless- Arborist/VFM 232

Blogger Noah B #120 October 12, 2015 6:30 PM  

"I am kinda fond of Cruz, myself."

Ted Cruz's idea of fixing the immigration crisis is to wave his magic legislative wand over illegal immigration and legalize it.

No thanks, I don't really see that working out well. We even tried that before, and look where it got us.

Blogger Noah B #120 October 12, 2015 6:31 PM  

I mean, if a guy can't even bring himself to SAY he wants to deport illegals, what chance is there that he will actually do it? Don't fool yourselves.

Blogger VFM 188 October 12, 2015 6:33 PM  

From the same article about Trump's appearance today in New Hampshire: Harvard graduate student Micaela Connery, asked Trump whether "divisive language" he deployed on the presidential campaign trail serves to "undermine" his message. Trump was having none of it. "I went to Ivy League schools. I know what's divisive. I know what's not divisive, in all fairness," he said. "I don't want to necessarily be politically correct all the way down the line. I see politicians, they're afraid to say anything because it's not politically correct. And they know the answers, and they refuse to give 'em because they're afraid it's not going to be politically correct! I'm going to have to be who I am."

We can believe him because he couldn't and wouldn't talk like that if he was bullshitting.

Blogger bw October 12, 2015 6:43 PM  

We can believe him because he couldn't and wouldn't talk like that if he was bullshitting

By all means!!
The Jewish lending and lawyer Trump is your Friend.
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Blogger Cail Corishev October 12, 2015 6:45 PM  

The great thing is that it doesn't matter whether he's lying. He's the Xanatos candidate: we win either way.

Blogger collisioncat67 October 12, 2015 6:52 PM  

Which candidate other than Trump has the stones to defiantly talk back to the MSM, SJWs, feminists, leftists, and Repub cuckservatives?...Huh?

The more Trump is despised by all of those clusters of sons-of-bitches the more his righteous cred goes up.

Blogger bw October 12, 2015 6:54 PM  

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/10/jill-soloway-and-the-transgender-agenda-part-1/

Blogger Cyclone Bob October 12, 2015 6:54 PM  

Our Hero 'always thought Merkel was this great leader'?

It was the setup to the punchline:
"She always seemed so smart; how the hell did she become so damn stupid?"

Blogger bw October 12, 2015 6:55 PM  

Don't forget Jewish Part Two....the JJJJOO)OOOOHHhhhhSSSSS" -Southern Baptist Josh

Blogger Jack Ward October 12, 2015 7:01 PM  

We take Trump seriously until he proves we can't. This is the present choice with the others being, do nothing, armed rebellion, various half measures which amount to do nothing.
Our choices are truly limited these days.
The days of Lot? Maybe so.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 12, 2015 7:06 PM  

@19 VFM 188

+1

Blogger rcocean October 12, 2015 7:07 PM  

You have two choices: you can vote for the man who says he's against open borders and might not be. Or you can vote for the other Candidates who are for open borders.

Same thing with all the other picky dumbshit criticism of Trump. You can vote for someone who says he for all the right things and insults Rosie O'Donnell. Or you can vote for the other candidates, who will act Presidential and will support open borders and Big Government.

Blogger rcocean October 12, 2015 7:09 PM  

Myself I HOPE Trump gets nominated. But Republicans are total dumbshits. Never forget that 40% of the Republicans wanted Bush I not Reagan in 1980 and 51% wanted Ford not Reagan in 1976.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 12, 2015 7:10 PM  

If not Trump then total despotism to keep the Empire righted and the entitled fulfilled, if not Trump then an American Spring where basically rebellion to reduce the depth of control the FedGov now exercises.

Blogger ray October 12, 2015 7:18 PM  

#24 -- 'Ask him about some leader, and he'd say, "Yeah, she's doing a great job." Why not? It cost him nothing, and he might want a favor from her someday. Why burn a bridge for no reason?'



Because the truth matters, and ignoring or soft-selling the truth is exactly, and ultimately, what caused our problems. And what permits those problems to continue unresolved, and largely unaddressed.

One of the reasons I follow Jeshua is because he's the Truth. Not the convenient truth, or the Intact Bridges truth. Just the truth.

Your comments about him help me understand his mentality, however, and I think they're likely accurate.

Blogger James Sullivan October 12, 2015 7:28 PM  

#31,

You are in my prayers.

Blogger AT October 12, 2015 7:32 PM  

@frigger611

He has said some really stupid things. Talking about Carly Fiorina's ugly face was monumentally stupid, caused him to lose ground.

That's a lie. Link to the quote where Donald Trump called Carly Fiorina ugly or retract the statement.

What Trump said was “Look at that face!? Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?”

I think it was Scot Adams of Dilbert fame who pointed out that this was simply another example of Trump "branding" his opponents, that Carly Fiorina is not ugly, but has the "angry, scolding wife face", and that men would know exactly what Trump was talking about. I thought that was pretty funny myself.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 12, 2015 7:40 PM  

Which candidate other than Trump has the stones to defiantly talk back to the MSM, SJWs, feminists, leftists, and Repub cuckservatives?

Yeah, but he can only do that because he's not a serious candidate and will drop out by October after realizing his ceiling is only something like 20%.

Blogger SciVo October 12, 2015 7:55 PM  

@ Cail Corishev:

Heads he does what he says, tails we fail faster? I guess that's as close to a win/win as we can get right now.

Blogger JCclimber October 12, 2015 7:59 PM  

hey, in the past, I also thought that Merkel was doing a decent job. She certainly seemed to be leading Germany well enough a few years ago, and seemed to be taking a hard stance on Greece.

And then the loan repackaging crap happened and my eyes were opened.

Folks, it wasn't that long ago that Merkel seemed to have her act together, as far as any national leader seemed to be doing.

Blogger collisioncat67 October 12, 2015 8:01 PM  

If Trump drops out or not; if he is sincere or not in his stated beliefs and intentions; at least he is providing a template on what a Republican presidential hopeful who is NOT a bent over cuck would appear as.

BTW aren't most genuine alphas, at one time or other perceived as overbearing, verbally blunt, and boorish by those who envy them their natural charisma?

Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 8:04 PM  

Look Josh, I really wanted to like Rand Paul too, but he's terrible on the immigration issue. His filibuster of extra-judicial assassination was undermined by the fact he was talking about "American citizen" Anwar al-Awlaki. While government use of drones to execute Americans is bad, it's demonstrably worse to have citizens with names like Anwar al-Awlaki. Furthermore, they can only justify the initial use of drones v. us because we have "citizens" like Anwar al-Awlaki.

Yes - I used scare quotes, dammit.

Blogger SciVo October 12, 2015 8:07 PM  

@ AT: I think it was Scot Adams of Dilbert fame who pointed out that this was simply another example of Trump "branding" his opponents

Someone here linked to Scott's blog, which is great. I love his Master Wizard hypothesis. He is absolutely correct that we are to some extent "moist robots" that can be programmed and made to respond with the right technique.

Right now, it's looking like the main obstacle to President-elect Trump is President Obama, who is another master wizard and has quite the pulpit from which to attack the Republican candidate.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 8:08 PM  

Yes - I used scare quotes, dammit.

Scare quotes Make America Great Again.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 8:15 PM  

While government use of drones to execute Americans is bad, it's demonstrably worse to have citizens with names like Anwar al-Awlaki. Furthermore, they can only justify the initial use of drones v. us because we have "citizens" like Anwar al-Awlaki.

While government use of internment camps to imprison Americans is bad, it's demonstrably worse to have citizens with names like George Takei. Furthermore, they can only justify the initial use of internment camps v. us because we have "citizens" like George Takei.

Blogger frigger611 October 12, 2015 8:18 PM  

@AT He has said some really stupid things. Talking about Carly Fiorina's ugly face was monumentally stupid, caused him to lose ground.

That's a lie. Link to the quote where Donald Trump called Carly Fiorina ugly or retract the statement.

What Trump said was “Look at that face!? Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?”

Show me where I claimed it was a direct quote. It was a summation of sentiment. You can argue I am off-base, but to demand I link a quote or retract is childish. Grow up and stop making demands of others for your failure at reading comprehension.

Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 8:25 PM  

While government use of internment camps to imprison Americans is bad, it's demonstrably worse to have citizens with names like George Takei. Furthermore, they can only justify the initial use of internment camps v. us because we have "citizens" like George Takei.

How many buildings did Japanese immigrants blow up leading up to World War 2? How many military bases and recruiting centers did they attack? How many marines did they kill? Perhaps they were running sex slave rings in their new country.

Or maybe none of that happened and you're just really stretching for a rhetorical analogy.

Blogger Salt October 12, 2015 8:31 PM  

There is no longer any other issue that matters.

Guns. They'll be needed, eventually.

Blogger VD October 12, 2015 8:33 PM  

I prefer that grown men don't engage in Twitter battles.

Yes, you prefer dialectic to rhetoric. I'm sure we're all very impressed. Grow up and accept that human beings have emotions and communicate with them already.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir October 12, 2015 8:35 PM  

“Frankly, look, Europe is going to have to handle — but they’re going to have riots in Germany. What’s happening in Germany, I always thought Merkel was like this great leader. What she’s done in Germany is insane. It is insane. They’re having all sorts of attacks.”

For an idea of Frau Merkel's means of maintaining order, consider the following:
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=30117

Blogger Nate October 12, 2015 8:35 PM  

October 12, 2015 8:15 PM


"While government use of drones to execute Americans is bad, it's demonstrably worse to have citizens with names like Anwar al-Awlaki. Furthermore, they can only justify the initial use of drones v. us because we have "citizens" like Anwar al-Awlaki.".

Holy shit.

you moron. Do you realize you're giving Obama the power to drone strike Leroy Bible Clinger in Alabama with no trial or even arrest?

You stupid fuck.

Blogger frigger611 October 12, 2015 8:36 PM  

At demanded I link to "the quote." I was not quoting. He made a demand that could no be met.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 8:38 PM  

Or maybe none of that happened and you're just really stretching for a rhetorical analogy.

Or maybe you're too eager to shred the Constitution because Obama promised that he would keep you safe.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 8:41 PM  

you moron. Do you realize you're giving Obama the power to drone strike Leroy Bible Clinger in Alabama with no trial or even arrest?

While government use of drones to execute Americans is bad, it's demonstrably worse to have citizens with names like Phil Robertson. Furthermore, they can only justify the initial use of drones v. us because we have "citizens" like Phil Robertson.

OpenID Steve October 12, 2015 8:42 PM  

We know that Trump has changed his coat at least twice.

I am pretty sure he showers every day as well. Even if he changed his mind the parade behind him now is so strong the only way to get it to slow down would be if people in the front had the opportunity to stop Clinton's head on the street.

But pandering about her 'great leadership' is just most cuckservatism.

He basically said "Man she really let her self go" Making her decision seem even worse.

4. Russia has not destabilised Syria. Russia accomplished more in 3 days than the US did in a year

Seems reasonable. Should have called it a safe space though... With cookies and videos of puppies frolicking like colleges have

Folks, it wasn't that long ago that Merkel seemed to have her act together

Snowden even revealed that USGOV was spying on people who liked her on facebook,

Joooooooooosh they can only justify the initial use of internment camps v. us because we have "citizens" like George Takei

He is practically a living straw man for the right. Do you seriously think he is an asset for the left?

For an idea of Frau Merkel's means of maintaining order, consider the following:http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=30117

No wonder there are so many gay jew guys.

OpenID Steve October 12, 2015 8:44 PM  

Third line should be "opportunity to stomp"

Blogger VFM 188 October 12, 2015 8:44 PM  

While government use of drones to execute Americans is bad, it's demonstrably worse to have citizens with names like Anwar al-Awlaki. Furthermore, they can only justify the initial use of drones v. us because we have "citizens" like Anwar al-Awlaki.

Holy shit. You moron. Do you realize you're giving Obama the power to drone strike Leroy Bible Clinger in Alabama with no trial or even arrest?


"Leroy Bible Clinger" is an American name, and thus need not fear a drone strike. Anwar al-Awlaki, on the other hand, is not an American name, and therefore deserves to die.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 8:46 PM  

"Leroy Bible Clinger" is an American name, and thus need not fear a drone strike. Anwar al-Awlaki, on the other hand, is not an American name, and therefore deserves to die.

Because you can totally trust the US Government and Obama. Totally.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 8:50 PM  

"Leroy Bible Clinger" is an American name, and thus need not fear a drone strike. Anwar al-Awlaki, on the other hand, is not an American name, and therefore deserves to die.

Ruby Ridge.

Waco.

You were saying?

Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 8:54 PM  

You stupid fuck.

Don't get mad at me when Vox posts another pro-Trump link, then you guys crawl out of the woodwork to bitch and moan when the obvious fact remains - Trump is taking the only sane position on the issue.

The giant whooshing sound over your head is audible from seven states over. The government has no positive argument for citizen assassinations if they can't bring millions of hostile foreigners into our midst, aimed directly at us. I guess you're one of those "diversity is our strength" cuckservative types, dumbass.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 8:55 PM  

Trump is taking the only sane position on the issue.

Building a wall and letting in a bunch of immigrants is the sane position?

Blogger JAY WILL October 12, 2015 8:56 PM  

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Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 9:03 PM  

Building a wall and letting in a bunch of immigrants is the sane position?

VD says:
It's rather remarkable, astonishing really, that Donald Trump is the only candidate in either party whose public statements aren't either completely a) irrelevant, or b) insane:

So - yes, of the positions staked by current candidates, Trump's is the only sane one. Trump has said that quality should be the primary determinant for entry. If that's the criteria, we'll be seeing fewer Somali's, Hmong, Hispanics, and West Africans. Favoring Christians, which he's mentioned, wouldn't hurt either.

Blogger Sheila4g October 12, 2015 9:04 PM  

I started responding to phone calls and door knockers oh, about 8 years ago, by saying that I was a one issue candidate: immigration. As in no more of. I also stopped voting at that time. I don't watch tv, I don't respond to polls, and I don't listen to talk radio. I peruse the web and occasionally leave a drive by comment for the cucks at various sites. I have heard and seen enough of what the other candidates have said and done to know they do not share my position on the single issue that matters to me. I trust Trump no more and no less than any other, and as Cail said, he's the Xanatos candidate. If he gets the nomination, I'll vote for him. If not, I'll stay home. Either way, I'll await the crash.

Blogger The Other Robot October 12, 2015 9:04 PM  

I cannot imagine that Wall Street does not know how to solve the problem of finding a lackey for the position of President.

Lone Gunmen come to mind.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 9:04 PM  

So - yes, of the positions staked by current candidates, Trump's is the only sane one.

Massive legal immigration = sane.

Gotcha.

OpenID Steve October 12, 2015 9:04 PM  

Building a wall and letting in a bunch of immigrants is the sane position?

It must have seem sane when Raygun made the amnesty deal. Trump only wants the best, if anything the percent of Mexicans getting in, compared to now, will be around that of what gets into NYC's top public math high school. Less than 3% black + Hispanic combined.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-punish-poor-asians/

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 9:08 PM  

Trump only wants the best

The greatest, the classiest, really terrific.

Blogger VFM 188 October 12, 2015 9:08 PM  

Josh! Cease foaming! Ever heard of the adjective wry? As in "wry humor"?

Def.: Abnormally bent or turned to one side; twisted; crooked. Devious in course or purpose; misdirected. Contrary; perverse. Distorted or perverted, as in meaning.

Big clue: No one really advocates drone strikes on people who have names that are insufficiently "American". No...really.

Blogger VFM 188 October 12, 2015 9:09 PM  

@JAY WILL: You're creeping me out. STFU.

Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 9:14 PM  

Massive legal immigration = sane.

If you can prove Trump supports "massive" legal immigration, I suppose so. You won't because he hasn't staked such a position.

And - define massive.

Of course, even if 1 million/year continue to enter, it will take quite some time to make up the 30 million deported illegals. What's your deal, you need those illegals to man your farm? You're a contractor doing great off undercutting skilled American wages?

You're attacking the only candidate who will unequivocally deport all illegals and keep them from re-entering. No other candidate has taken that position. It's the therefore the only sane position amongst those available.

Blogger Cyclone Bob October 12, 2015 9:19 PM  

"you moron. Do you realize you're giving Obama the power to drone strike Leroy Bible Clinger in Alabama with no trial or even arrest?"

He already has that power, shithead. No one - no court, no subcommittee, no military officer, and certainly not some perm-haired dweeb reading Atlas Shrugged on the Senate floor - is going to stop him.

And realistically, they won't waste a drone here, they'll use a swat team with a bullshit warrant.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 9:21 PM  

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/29/trump-move-non-criminal-illegals-back-in-legally-ill-do-something-with-dreamers/

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump stated that after getting out the “bad” illegal immigrants, he would get the others out and “have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal,” because “when somebody’s terrific, we want them back here” legally, adding that with DREAMers “We’re going to something” in an interview aired on Wednesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Lead.”
...
He added, “We have to bring great people into this country, okay? And I want to bring — I love the idea of immigration, but it’s got to be legal immigration. Now, a lot of these people are helping us, whether it’s the grapes, or whether it’s jobs, and sometimes it’s jobs, in all fairness, I love our country, but sometimes it’s jobs that a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I mean, there are jobs that a lot of people don’t want to do. I want to move them out, and we’re going to move them back in, and let them be legal, but they have to be in here legally. … Otherwise, you don’t have a country. You don’t have a country, if people can just pour into the country illegally, you don’t have a country, but I would expedite the system.”


He even said JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO. He said that.

Blogger Nate October 12, 2015 9:26 PM  

"He already has that power, shithead."

No. He doesn't he thinks he does. But he does not. Doing so would set off a war that would have his head on a pole on pennsylvania ave.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 9:33 PM  

If you can prove Trump supports "massive" legal immigration, I suppose so. You won't because he hasn't staked such a position.

And - define massive.


He supports letting non criminal illegals back in legally.

He also wants to expedite the process to make it easier to immigrate legally.

If the current rate of immigration qualifies as massive, that's probably going to be the baseline rate of immigration under a President Trump.

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 9:37 PM  

Trump is already making statements at odds with his immigration policy paper, so can you trust him to keep his promises?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/politics/donald-trump-immigration-policy-tweets/

"When foreigners attend our great colleges & want to stay in the U.S., they should not be thrown out of our country," Trump tweeted on Tuesday. "I want talented people to come into this country -- to work hard and become citizens. Silicon Valley needs engineers, etc."

Blogger Josh October 12, 2015 9:40 PM  

http://www.wsj.com/articles/international-students-stream-into-u-s-colleges-1427248801

There are 1.13 million foreign students in the U.S., the vast majority in college-degree programs, according to a report to be released Wednesday by the Department of Homeland Security. That represents a 14% increase over last year, nearly 50% more than in 2010 and 85% more than in 2005.

Trump wants all 1.13 million to be allowed to stay after graduation.

Given how much that number has grown in ten years, and how much it could grow in the next ten, is it massive?

Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 9:45 PM  

If the current rate of immigration qualifies as massive, that's probably going to be the baseline rate of immigration under a President Trump.

And if he revokes birthright citizenship, as he has proposed, what impact will that have on immigration?

Trump is already making statements at odds with his immigration policy paper, so can you trust him to keep his promises?

Which of the pro-amnesty candidates who have no intention of building any sort of wall would you have us support, then?

Or perhaps you can follow a logical progression. In what order should the following steps be implemented?

- deport all illegals
- build the wall
- decide what to do about legal immigration

If there's anything to be learned from lib-progs - incrementalism works.

Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 9:55 PM  

Rand Paul on immigration:

Q: You have said that the 11 million immigrants in this country already here should have some legal status and pay taxes. You want to find some sort of legal status for them?

PAUL: What I want to do first is secure the border. If we secure the border and we can say who is coming, who is going, and only people come, come legally, the 11 million that are here, I think there could be a work status for them. And I think what I have tried to say is, what we want is more legal immigration, so we have less illegal immigration. But I am open to immigration reform. I voted against the bill that came forward, though, primarily because it limited the number of legal work visas.

Blogger Nate October 12, 2015 10:32 PM  

"
Which of the pro-amnesty candidates who have no intention of building any sort of wall would you have us support, then?"

If immigration is the only thing that matters...than you should be supporting Santorum... rather than gargling Trump's balls.

Santorum has been much better than Trump on immigration... and he didn't have his immigration epiphany in July.

Blogger Conscientia Republicae October 12, 2015 10:40 PM  

I think it is hilarious to read people calling Trump stupid, socially inept and a buffoon.

Blogger YIH October 12, 2015 10:44 PM  

OT: Hell just froze over.

Blogger Dr. J October 12, 2015 10:46 PM  

@Nate

Santorum on illegal immigration:

For six job classifications — of more than 400 listed by the Department of Commerce — Santorum actually would provide a way for illegals to become temporarily legal (by paying a fine and making other amends), to do jobs that, yes, “maybe people born here really do not want to do.”

Like Josh said: He even said JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO. He said that.

Blogger David-093 October 12, 2015 10:55 PM  

"If immigration is the only thing that matters...than you should be supporting Santorum... rather than gargling Trump's balls."

You're not normally this dense, Nate. Santorum never had the slightest chance of getting the nomination and you know it. Trump has forced the immigration issue to the forefront, something that Santorum never could. Trump is not perfect, but I don't care about perfect, I care about getting the illegals deported. That's 50 million people we don't need in the US right now and it's a start.

Blogger automatthew October 12, 2015 11:16 PM  

Since y'all've already devolved into the typical comment thread to any Trump post, I just want to offer this advice:

"He already has that power, shithead."

Not mighty. A mightier response would have been:

"He already has that power, girlfriend."

Blogger Cyclone Bob October 12, 2015 11:36 PM  

We'all didn't start down that road; they'all did. I don't care for "shithead" or "moron", but I prefer them over sounding like a Tyler Perry character.

Blogger Dr. J October 13, 2015 12:07 AM  

Just stick with the classics. The word you're looking for:

sugartits

Blogger Jay October 13, 2015 12:30 AM  

I think the common man is too stupid. Democracy plus mass idiocy leads to societal collapse. And maybe that's a good thing. Maybe something new can rise from the ashes.

http://conservativepapers.com/news/2012/01/22/illegal-immigration-led-to-the-fall-of-the-roman-empire/

Blogger The Other Robot October 13, 2015 12:48 AM  

I feel that I should point out that Hitler supported open borders!

Blogger BunE22 October 13, 2015 1:26 AM  

Apparently Pegida built gallows for Merkel and Gabriel and brought it to a protest of (supposedly) 9000. Not much out there about it, wonder if it'll get scrubbed.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 13, 2015 2:50 AM  

"I cannot imagine that Wall Street does not know how to solve the problem of finding a lackey for the position of President.

Lone Gunmen come to mind."

Yes... because you can't be a lone gunman with an ideological axe to grind and change world history. JFK was important, you see, and that gave him a magical bubble of protection that prevented poor commoners with guns to kill. Archduke Ferdinand and Lincoln and McKinley, too.

Blogger The Other Robot October 13, 2015 7:59 AM  

I think Lincoln was different, in that he seemed to be doing the bidding of the financial classes.

I wonder what McKinley did wrong?

Blogger Bitter Clinger October 13, 2015 8:56 AM  

Immigration is clearly the most important issue, but I'll still consider the candidates position on guns and voting integrity. Fortunately, we finally have some SCOTUS support for 2A, so I can relax my restriction on the 2A criterion and put nearly all my focus on the immigration.

Go Trump! Build that yuuuuuge, classy wall!

Blogger Bitter Clinger October 13, 2015 9:04 AM  

Immigration is clearly the most important issue, but I'll still consider the candidates position on guns and voting integrity. Fortunately, we finally have some SCOTUS support for 2A, so I can relax my restriction on the 2A criterion and put nearly all my focus on the immigration.

Go Trump! Build that yuuuuuge, classy wall!

Blogger Rez Zircon October 13, 2015 9:26 AM  

The issue of immigration IS the issue of guns and voting integrity.

With illegal immigration, there's more crime thus more push toward gun control (illogical as that is), plus a great many illegal immigrants come from a society where only crooks have guns, so they are afraid of guns and themselves push for gun control. Immigrants are a big enough voting bloc in California that legislators fear offending them.

With illegal immigration, there's more push toward getting 'em registered as voters one way or another, and there are a great many more illegal immigrants than there are dead voters in Chicago. Without illegal immigration, voting integrity is at least no worse than before, and gun control advocates lose that focus of crime at which to point and shout, as well as that loud voice of fear that so influences legislators.

Closing the border would fix a whole chain of consequences, or at least make a good start.

As to Trump changing his coat, I'm reminded that Ronald Reagan, arguably the best president in the past century, also changed his coat. I have nothing against a man who learns he was wrong, changes his mind, and is open and honest about it.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 13, 2015 10:18 AM  

And let's not forget..when Trump has changed his mind, it's consistently been to throw away a fashionable idea of the left to replace it with one which is more reality driven.

Blogger Six October 13, 2015 10:51 AM  

>I don't care what any candidate has to say about any issue except immigration. There is no longer any other issue that matters.<

My feelings on the election exactly. We must immediately stop illegal migration and send all those within our borders back. Failure to do so only ensures that sooner or later (probably sooner) the issue will take a violent turn. It is maddening that so many either don't understand this or actively court civil war.

OpenID Steve October 13, 2015 11:42 AM  

@103 I think Lincoln was different, in that he seemed to be doing the bidding of the financial classes.

You mean the guy that wanted to send the blacks to Africa and stick with greenbacks as govt issued currency instead of having the demographic that killed him print it.

Santorum has been much better than Trump on immigration... and he didn't have his immigration epiphany in July

Do you really want to hear his dog sex quote for over a year, on all mainstream venues?

Blogger VFM 188 October 13, 2015 12:08 PM  

"If immigration is the only thing that matters...than you should be supporting Santorum... rather than gargling Trump's balls."

You're not normally this dense, Nate.


Josh too. Nate and Josh seem to lose their minds over Trump, sounding like the kind of libertarians who always leaps to choose the impossible-perfect over the possible-good-enough. Trump isn't perfect, but he's our only chance. Besides, he's Xanatos. So Josh and Nate, get your shit together: Anyone other than Trump as the next President will be a sure unmitigated disaster. This will probably happen anyway, so you two will get your wish. Will it make you happy?

Blogger Dirk Manly October 13, 2015 12:24 PM  

@17 Turns out the femitwit with her disingenuous "will women get paid the same as men?" question was a Bush plant.

Bush continues to burnish his credentials as a lilly-livered, weak-kneed loser.

Blogger Jeff October 13, 2015 12:29 PM  

"Heinlein was racist as fuck"

Thought leader N. K. Jemisin

Blogger Dire Badger October 14, 2015 7:12 AM  

jesus h fu...
It's a sane position. He knows full well that first generation silicon valley Germans and Swiss are getting deported while Tijuana dirtbags are digging in like a tick, for the same reason Obama's 'government shutdown' involved laying off postal workers and cops while leaving useless senatorial aids and Homeland Security goons in place.

The thing is, we WANT those white, christian families were the patriarch is a brilliant physicist... We don't want Marco Rodriguez who's sole job skill is smuggling drugs past airport security. How is recognizing that some immigrants are valuable and some immigrants are not qualify as 'massive immigration'?

The fact of the matter is, Trump understands what overseas exportation of jobs, illegal and quasilegal importation of low-quality immigrants, and weakass visas are doing to the American middle class, a middle class he knows full well has always been America's greatest strength and strongest asset.

He's not supporting the elites, and he's not supporting the lowest-common-demoninator 'worker' like some kind of hippy stalin. He's specifically targeting the issue most important to the most important demographic in america. It's the first time a candidate has done so without hitting them in the face with a mop, rather than just throwing up his hands and assuming they are a solid demographic bloc.

Even if Trump loses, He has a good chance of changing the political landscape from 'corporatist vs. socialist' into 'productive vs. unproductive'. And you know which way America would jump in THAT case.

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