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Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Yes, they're going home

The EU is planning to repatriate the invading migrants:
The EU plans to deport hundreds of thousands of migrants back to their home countries within weeks, according to a Brussels secret document leaked to British daily the Times.

The plans apparently include the creation of a new "dedicated return office" unit in the EU's Frontex border guard agency to deal with the "irregular migrants." The EU plans to use trade treaty clauses to force the return of refugees whose asylum applications failed to countries including Mali, Niger, Somalia, Ethiopia and Eritrea, which have development aid and trade treaties with the EU, the Times reported.

"All measures must be taken to ensure irregular migrants’ effective return, including use of detention," the leaked EU document said.

It is unclear whether refugees from countries in the midst of armed conflict, such as Syria and Afghanistan, would be forced to return to their countries. However, according to the document, the goal of the policy is to end the migrant flow altogether, rather than deal with the issue's causes.
This is a very good sign that the European nations want to avoid a bloody tragedy of epic proportions, but it doesn't mean anything until the repatriations actually take place and the migrant flow is permanently shut down. It also isn't sufficient, as it isn't merely the "irregular migrants" who need to be sent back to their home countries, but also the "refugees" and the "Gaestarbeiter" of the last four decades.

After all, the Germans are getting scared by the migrant invasion and about the last thing the world needs is the Germans feeling both scared and cornered.

But it is a good start and is a sign that some sanity remains in Christendom. Note, in particular, that "all measures must be taken". The USA would do very well to follow suit.

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39 Comments:

Blogger Rantor October 13, 2015 5:33 AM  

Certainly a good first step... Now will the SJW crowd will go for "irregular migrant" or is it as evil a term as "illegal alien." A good next step would be to elect a more conservative chancellor in Germany. I believe their parliamentary system allows that without holding an election. You just need a man with a pair to take on Angela and her failed immigration policy. CDU/CSU, anyone with a pair please report to the chancellery....

Blogger Curtis October 13, 2015 5:48 AM  

The USA would do very well to stop regime changing in places like Libya, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Yemen, Ukraine, Iran, etc., and pull back off of Russia's border.

US Government to Spend $600 Million More On Training “Moderates” in Syria

http://theantimedia.org/us-government-to-spend-600-million-more-on-training-moderates-in-syria/

Or, just bomb the crap out of the Kremlin, because this sudden mass migration is Putin's fault for bombing the crap out of CIA-ISIS-Qaeda-Nusra-FSA and not allowing them to chop off Assad's head.

https://youtu.be/-KHCNk9BYy4

Blogger Robert What? October 13, 2015 5:57 AM  

You'd have thought the NeoCons would have learned something from the disastrous "regime changes" in Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, etc, but you'd be wrong.

Blogger Curtis October 13, 2015 6:09 AM  

Hell no. They're going to drag us into WWIII and "winner" take all.

We dropped 50 tons of weapons/ammo into Syria just recently.

As for massive de-migration, I'll believe when I see it. I am sure it will be massively televised.

Some of the citizens begin chanting, “Our own people should come first,” before openly goading the police by yelling, “Go ahead and shoot – shoot your own people.”

http://www.infowars.com/video-irate-germans-attempt-to-block-buses-full-of-migrants/

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey October 13, 2015 6:53 AM  

Excellent. We'll see if it actually takes place.

Yes, things happen when my people feel threatened.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 13, 2015 7:05 AM  

My WAG, the doubling down on moderates will of course arm the radicals, then Iran and Russia will push those same radicals right back at the KSA which will spike oil prices and voila Putin and the Iranians win again, neo con tools continue their long losing streak but still dominate the soon to be defunct political party known as the GOP.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 October 13, 2015 7:30 AM  

@3 ah Robert, but is it good for the Neocons?

Blogger BCM October 13, 2015 7:52 AM  

What are the odds this is the spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down? Like the GOP's passing a bill for a fence, of which only a few miles were ever constructed.

Blogger James Jones October 13, 2015 7:54 AM  

Merkel and Co have realised they have moved too quickly and incited real anger amongst your average EU slave. This is just to assuage the populace. Nothing significant will change.

Blogger James Jones October 13, 2015 7:54 AM  

Spot on.

OpenID ymarsakar October 13, 2015 9:18 AM  

But it is a good start and is a sign that some sanity remains in Christendom.

What's left of it at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

Blogger The Observer October 13, 2015 9:22 AM  

@9:

I have to agree. This looks like a feint. I'll believe it when I see it happen.

Blogger Daniel Babylon October 13, 2015 9:46 AM  

Would you be fine with actual refugees seeking asylum after all the fakers are deported?

Blogger automatthew October 13, 2015 9:55 AM  

Why would anyone want any refugees at all?

Blogger VD October 13, 2015 10:01 AM  

Would you be fine with actual refugees seeking asylum after all the fakers are deported?

No.

OpenID Steve October 13, 2015 10:16 AM  

Now will the SJW crowd will go for "irregular migrant" or is it as evil a term as "illegal alien."

They will say only those with constipation can be deported. From the pictures of moslems shitting all over trains that wont be many of them.

What are the odds this is the spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down?

It would be more believable if a secrete document got leaked that Angela Merkel was going to let all the schwarz male refugees live with herm.

Would you be fine with actual refugees seeking asylum after all the fakers are deported?

What do you consider actual refusegees? They would fit in better in one of the 47 moslem nations not currently at war.
-bgs

Blogger Dirk Manly October 13, 2015 10:26 AM  

Once they cross 2 borders (the first one being to get out of their own country), they are no longer refugees, but invaders.

Blogger ZhukovG October 13, 2015 10:35 AM  

Bona fide refugees should be housed at Incirlik AB at Turkey's expense. If Erdogan wants to be the next Ottoman Caliph, he can pay for it. Every other invader can leave Europe on their feet or in a bag.

Blogger George Zipp October 13, 2015 10:51 AM  

The Right is gaining ground, the Left has to do something.

Blogger Harry Spitz October 13, 2015 11:23 AM  

So first question is, how long before some commie organizations 'lawyer-up' for the invading barbarians and demand that each and every one get a hearing?

Second is, how long before the barbarians start producing weapons that they are not supposed to have in gun-controlled Europe?

OpenID Jack Amok October 13, 2015 11:27 AM  

Would you be fine with actual refugees seeking asylum after all the fakers are deported?

No.


Yeah, one of the consequences of liberal misrule is that our formerly stable and prosperous societies are no longer in a position to help people who need it. Something for the weepie handwringers in the middle to think about when some leftist troll is telling them how heartless and cruel conservatives are.

We're not the ones who ruined our ability to be kind.

Blogger Brian, follower of Deornoth October 13, 2015 11:57 AM  

@20, in answer to your second question:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-34504254

Blogger Karl October 13, 2015 12:02 PM  

I'm not surprised to see an open-borders zealot admiring Rousseau.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/get-rid-borders-completely/409501/

To paraphrase Rousseau, man is born free, yet everywhere he is caged. Barbed-wire, concrete walls, and gun-toting guards confine people to the nation-state of their birth. But why? The argument for open borders is both economic and moral. All people should be free to move about the earth, uncaged by the arbitrary lines known as borders.

and this is because ..

No standard moral framework, be it utilitarian, libertarian, egalitarian, Rawlsian, Christian, or any other well-developed perspective, regards people from foreign lands as less entitled to exercise their rights—or as inherently possessing less moral worth—than people lucky to have been born in the right place at the right time. Nationalism, of course, discounts the rights, interests, and moral value of “the Other, but this disposition is inconsistent with our fundamental moral teachings and beliefs.

the whole thing is a dog's breakfast of logical errors.

Blogger Randy M October 13, 2015 12:26 PM  

A case could be made that helping people who "need" it is what made use unable to help people who need it.

Also, I was watching a good talk on youtube by a Scottish guy (Millenial Woes or something) on this topic who pointed out something I noticed--Saudi Arabis has a premade tent city all set up for pilgrims to Mecca to live quite comfortably. Wait til that is overflowing before entertaining the question of taking them into the West.

I've heard the rebuttal that some Muslim nations can't take refugees because Sunni and Shia don't get along. How they think either will behave better around Christian or heathen is beyond me.

Blogger Dexter October 13, 2015 12:52 PM  

Millions arriving, hundreds of thousands going back. If they actually go back. Net trend... negative.

Blogger Dexter October 13, 2015 12:53 PM  

some Muslim nations can't take refugees because Sunni and Shia don't get along

So, um, send the Sunni refugees to a Sunni country, and the Shia refugees to a Shia country. Not hard.

Though the real answer is, "We don't care."

Blogger Harry Spitz October 13, 2015 1:05 PM  

@22
Pretty mild.
I am expecting to find, surprise, surprise, that many mosques double as arsenals.

Blogger Maple Curtain October 13, 2015 1:56 PM  

@23: nice little unsigned editorial from some forthcoming book called "How to Save Humanity." No hubris there.

Blogger daddynichol October 13, 2015 2:14 PM  

Big Brother fucks it up and Big Brother promises to fix it. Good luck with that promise, but if they do begin sending some back, send several hundred of the EU immigration invasion supporters with them, too. Merkel would be most welcomed in the Syrian camps.

Blogger daddynichol October 13, 2015 3:36 PM  

Big Brother fucks it up and Big Brother promises to fix it. Good luck with that promise, but if they do begin sending some back, send several hundred of the EU immigration invasion supporters with them, too. Merkel would be most welcomed in the Syrian camps.

Blogger ScuzzaMan October 13, 2015 4:03 PM  

Karl

He is simply wrong that any nation is lucky, and doubly wrong that Christian morals support him in this. They dont. There is no such thing as luck. All good things come from God, and nations are blessed in the exact degree they comport themselves in keeping with HIS moral standards.


Christians recognise this, which is why we insist that those who wish to live among us must become us. There is no other possibility which will allow us to continue to enjoy his blessings and, through them be a blessing to others.

Blogger Karl October 13, 2015 4:32 PM  

@31 yes, Christian sticks out in his list. The other 4 are all flavors of (enlightenment) liberalism. Which raises a point about attempting to refute open borders while operating within a liberal framework.

I missed this story from Germany, but another woman refugee was honor killed after being raped.

A WOMAN whose family branded her 'unclean' after she was raped in Syria has been found murdered in Germany - allegedly on the orders of her own mother.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/610716/Honour-killing-rape-victim-Syrian

Rokstan had been living in a house for single women before returning to her family a few days before she was murdered and buried in a shallow grave.

Blogger VFM 188 October 13, 2015 5:05 PM  

It's worth thinking about why Muslims are destructive to Christian societies. Muslims---because of their religion but possibly also because of human bio-diversity (chicken-egg) question---produce low-trust societies. Symptoms include ubiquitous haggling; no universal proscriptions against lying; inability to create or sustain a liberal society; violent proscriptions against "thinking differently," etc. Christian culture, on the other hand, is the opposite on all those points. Is it the Christian religion, or human biodiversity? Or both?

Blogger Geir Balderson October 13, 2015 6:15 PM  

Having a small amount of German in me, I can say with complete honesty that my German relatives do not become frighten. They prepare an efficient means to deal with the problem. Efficiency is the key to eliminate the offensive.

Blogger rumpole5 October 13, 2015 7:18 PM  

Could this whole thing simply be an attempt to totally destabilize and discontent Islamites by pittng them against each other? If this goes on the whole region will be in ruins with its productive population pushing brooms, cleaning toilets, and on the assembly line in Germany. From what you say, the "irregular immigrant" plans appear to be focused on black Africans.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar October 13, 2015 9:53 PM  

Maybe they can solve this problem by putting up a cheap statue that rots or turns green, and then explain to the peoples of Europe that they live in a land of immigarnats because some apeman rambled out of Africa?
I'd love to have some ironic funny quote to write on the monument to their stupidity after they are all hanged or driven out of Europe.

Blogger Feather Blade October 13, 2015 10:09 PM  

the creation of a new "dedicated return office" unit

Hn. Given the opportunity to expand a bureaucracy, it can now be guaranteed that Europe will never run out of migrants to "deport".

Blogger kmbr October 14, 2015 12:17 PM  

Well, this morning I am reading the Deutsche school kids are being given assignments to clean up after the "migrants". Making beds, cleaning up garbage, cooking.

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