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Wednesday, November 04, 2015

A second front in the OSS invasion

ESR warns that SJWs aren't merely using weaponized codes of conduct to try to take over open source software projects these days.
I received a disturbing warning today from a source I trust. The short version is: if you are any kind of open-source leader or senior figure who is male, do not be alone with any female, ever, at a technical conference. Try to avoid even being alone, ever, because there is a chance that a “women in tech” advocacy group is going to try to collect your scalp.

IRC conversation, portions redacted to protect my informant, follows.

15:17:58 XXXXXXXXXXXX | I'm super careful about honey traps.  For a while, that's how the Ada Initiative was trying to pre-generate outrage and collect scalps.                            
15:18:12          esr | REALLY?                                   
15:18:22          esr | That's perverse.                          
15:18:42 XXXXXXXXXXXX | Yeah, because the upshot is, I no longer can afford to mentor women who are already in tech.
15:18:54          esr | Right.                                    
15:19:01 XXXXXXXXXXXX | I can and do mentor ones who are not in it, but are interested and able           
15:19:21 XXXXXXXXXXXX | but once one is already in...  nope
15:20:08 XXXXXXXXXXXX | The MO was to get alone with the target, and then immediately after cry "attempted sexual assault".
15:23:27          esr | When the backlash comes it's going to be vicious.  And women who were not part of this bullshit will suffer for it.
15:23:41 XXXXXXXXXXXX | I can only hope.                           
15:25:21          esr | Ah. On the "Pour encourager les autres" principle?  I hadn't thought of that. Still damned unfortunate, though.
15:26:40 XXXXXXXXXXXX | Linus is never alone at any conference. This is not because he lets fame go to his head and likes having a posse around.     
15:26:54 XXXXXXXXXXXX | They have made multiple runs at him.      
15:27:29          esr | Implied warning noted.                     
15:27:34            * | XXXXXXXXXXXX nods
Interesting to see that technologists are having to adopt the same policy as Billy Graham and other Christian pastors; SJWs not only always lie, but apparently they always resort to the same tactical set as well. It's also interesting to note that women connected to the Ada Initiative are known to have been engaging in these tactics for some time now.

In any event, you've been warned. I find it a little ironic that there is any concern whatsoever for the hypothesized effect on "women who were not part of this bullshit" because that's simply not important. If they want to work in tech, they can still do so, they simply won't have the benefit of the expected hand-holding.

At any rate, it should be apparent to even the most dubious moderate that SJWs in tech are a serious problem and they need to be rooted out.

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104 Comments:

Blogger Seneca November 04, 2015 5:20 AM  

It's war but too few men seem to recognize the threat.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 04, 2015 5:30 AM  

The Ada Initiative says it shut down last month.

Here's what they claim:

When the Ada Initiative was founded in 2011, the environment for women in open technology and culture was extremely hostile.

Oh?


Conference anti-harassment policies were rare outside of certain areas in fandom,

Civilised, non-mental adults don't need "anti-harrassment" policies to get together and talk about software.

and viewed as extremist attempts to muzzle free speech.

Because they are.

Pornography in slides was a regular feature at many conferences in these areas,

Bullshit.

as were physical and sexual assault.

If this was true, the police would be swarming over open software shindigs and hotels would refuse their bookings.

Most open tech/culture communities didn’t have an understanding of basic feminist concepts like consent, tone policing, and intersectional oppression.

Wow-just-wow.txt

Why we decided to shut down the Ada Initiative

In late 2014, after nearly four years of leading the Ada Initiative, co-founder Valerie Aurora wanted to step down as Executive Director and focus solely on running training programs. Our Deputy Executive Director and co-founder Mary Gardiner did not want to succeed Valerie as the Executive Director, and thus the board, in November 2014, launched a search for a new ED. After a long and thorough search which attracted more than 130 applicants, the board hired a new ED. Unfortunately, that hire didn’t work out.

There must be a story here. They hired Crystal Huff to be their Executive Director in March.

Less than 5 months later, that "didn't work out" and they're shutting the whole thing down? Even though they allegedly had 129 other rainbow haired she-twinks to choose from?

Summat dodgy's going on.

Blogger Lovekraft November 04, 2015 5:49 AM  

over at Youtube, Thunderf00t put up a video demonstrating his defence against a concentrated campaign to get him fired. Recommended as encouragement, display of sjw evil, and methods of counter-attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5TMmxlsLN8

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 04, 2015 6:00 AM  

It's also interesting to note that women connected to the Ada Initiative are known to have been engaging in these tactics for some time now.

The Ada Initiative - Would You Bang?

Valerie Aurora. Co-founder, the Ada Initiative

Mary Gardiner. Co-founder, the Ada Initiative

Andrea Horbinski. Secretary of the Board, Organization for Transformative Works. PhD candidate, History and New Media, UC Berkeley

Believe it or not, these are the pretty ones.

Here's a typical Ada Initiative legbeard jamboree.

I would not bang them, Sam-I-Am
I do not like stubbly legs on hams

Anonymous Darkpill November 04, 2015 6:12 AM  

I met you many years ago. I would never have believed that we would end up in the same camp politically. I used to be liberal-- the leftists beat that out of me.

Delenda est indeed. Hope they're ready for a fight because it's coming. Bitch of it is, we're the only ones armed.

Anonymous kfg November 04, 2015 6:13 AM  

Note that Thunderf00t had built his defence prior to the attack. Key elements were first making sure his employers were aware of his activities, then building a new source of income and removing his research project from payroll.

This allowed him to stage a counter offensive to the attack. I wouldn't be surprised if, instead of having his income destroyed, it was at least temporarily enhanced.

Anonymous Rhys O'Reilly November 04, 2015 6:20 AM  

Were I Linus I'd run a reverse honey trap. Let myself end up alone with one of these legbeards I know is ready to cry rape while secretly recording the whole interaction. Wait for her to cry rape and then go public with the footage.

Blogger Phillip George November 04, 2015 6:23 AM  

doesn't anyone see the irony in this. After a one hundred year experiment it is now necessary for a woman to have a chaperon - to protect a man's reputation that is.

With birth rates dropping through the floor a woman is claiming someone found her desirable.

Damn science fiction couldn't have thought this up.

POEs law. fiction can't keep up

Anonymous Tom November 04, 2015 6:33 AM  

School teachers, the ones who aren't trying to sexually assault the students, all make sure not to be alone with individual students, opposite, same, or indeterminate gender.

Blogger James Sullivan November 04, 2015 6:39 AM  

#2

I was just reading about the brouhaha over the Code of Conduct at the upcoming WSF Convention in Saratoga NY (I was considering attending because I live 15 minutes away) and you can see the other side of what is shown here.

Basically, the WSF consulted withe the Saratoga Springs PD in writing their convention's COD. And they (The Saratoga Springs Police) said that Harrasssment is legally defined as a crime in NYS. Therefore, in the first version of the COD, the police were to be called if there were a harrassment complaint made to an organizer.

Now, you might think, (If you hadn't read SJWs Always Lie) that they would want this: real, legal penalties for evil, white men who harass women.

But now we know differently.

In this case, they screamed about the police involvement:

-"victims don't always want to talk to police"

-"women and people of color don't feel safe with police"

-"it takes the decision making process out of the victim's hands"


If I didn't get it before, I'd get it now. Regardless of one's thoughts on Law Enforcement, it's obvious that the real reason is that the COD and the police involvement didn't allow enough wiggle/weasel room. A woman can't just make a complaint and have someone ejected for something that probably didn't happen at all. Now she has to be questioned by an experienced interviewer and if it's found to be false, faces charges herself.




Anonymous kfg November 04, 2015 6:51 AM  

@10: James Sullivan: " I live 15 minutes away . . ."

I can see your house from here.

"-"it takes the decision making process out of the victim's hands""

Rather the point of it, innit?

"If I didn't get it before, I'd get it now."

Welcome aboard.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 04, 2015 7:03 AM  

James Sullivan - you are Monsters Inc's top scarer and my toddler is a huge fan.

it's obvious that the real reason is that the COD and the police involvement didn't allow enough wiggle/weasel room.

Exactly right. It's the same playbook they're using in the university rape crisis hysteria.

SJW's don't want their allegations to be subjected to due process, unbiased investigation and the rule of law.

They seek to create a parallel system of feminist kangaroo courts, ostracism, social media shaming, whispering campaigns and purges.

It's the SJW version of Sharia Law, but less honest.

Blogger Patrikbc November 04, 2015 7:11 AM  

7 or 8 years ago, the founder of habitat for humanity, a dedicated husband, father, and committed Christian found this out the hard way.
"Fuller left Habitat for Humanity in 2005 amid a dispute with the organization's board. Habitat said in a statement at the time his termination culminated "several months of differences between the Fullers and the board over allegations of inappropriate personal behavior of Millard Fuller toward a now-former female employee," according to an article in the February 2005 edition of Christianity Today magazine."
Look at HFM now, it's a secular/socialist org of there ever was one.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 November 04, 2015 7:17 AM  

Wait...wait..."Oleanna"
CaptDMO

Blogger Nate November 04, 2015 7:33 AM  

I'm more than a little surprised that this sort of personal policy is only just now appearing. This has been the norm for business leaders and religious leaders for decades.

Blogger VD November 04, 2015 7:37 AM  

I'm more than a little surprised that this sort of personal policy is only just now appearing.

Why? Until the SJW-inspired invasion, there have been barely any women in OSS projects.

Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 7:40 AM  

@Steve-the-person-of-mean-words-and-links
There must be a story here. They hired Crystal Huff to be their Executive Director in March.

Wait, "Crystal Huff" is not some sort of drug term?

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2015 7:45 AM  

@8, exactly my thought. It wasn't that long ago that a woman wouldn't have been alone with a man, not necessarily out of fear that something might happen, but because her reputation could suffer. Just one more thing that's upside down and inside out.

It's no surprise that it's the same tactic as in other fields, because it's basically the same people. They're destroyers; they're not particularly choosy about what they destroy as long as it has objective value. It's mostly an accident of circumstance whether the girl who desires to ruin other people's values finds herself doing it at a corporation, a church, a literary convention, or a software project.

Anonymous kfg November 04, 2015 7:46 AM  

" . . . there have been barely any women in OSS projects."

And until recently it was largely net based, small in numbers and had the motto: Show me the code.

Conferences are a relatively recent development in open source, and it is in such an environment that the SJWs can run amok.

Anonymous Lukas Brunnor November 04, 2015 7:47 AM  

Despite what some believe, having surveillance cameras watching and recording everything, all the time can be a protection against such behavior. While in some situations it could be a double edged sword, as long as you maintain the swing away from you it works to your benefit. Also, what is the motivation behind wanting to mentor someone, especially a woman, who is not a personal friend, family member, or prior acquaintance? It seems ill-advised even before such threats as this.

Blogger Nate November 04, 2015 7:48 AM  

'Why? Until the SJW-inspired invasion, there have been barely any women in OSS projects."

Granted.

Blogger Nate November 04, 2015 7:49 AM  

I still wonder how much of this can be shut down simply by requiring actual code to be submitted before you grant a voice.

My gut tells me these SJWs can't code. They can't do anything productive. They don't pick their field by any skillset... SJW is their skillset.

Blogger CM November 04, 2015 7:50 AM  

I'm more than a little surprised that this sort of personal policy is only just now appearing.

Why? Until the SJW-inspired invasion, there have been barely any women in OSS projects


Ironically, it never really crosses their minds to treat women differently than men...

I think its time to bring back salons and dens. Feminism is proving that old-fashioned separation of genders is important to getting things done...

No more sailor talk around the women-folk, gents!

Anonymous Nxx November 04, 2015 7:52 AM  

Were I Linus I'd run a reverse honey trap. Let myself end up alone with one of these legbeards I know is ready to cry rape while secretly recording the whole interaction. Wait for her to cry rape and then go public with the footage.

BUSINESS IDEA:

SJW Insurance Device: A medallion type accessory that records everything like a dashcam.

If anyone is up for it I'm in for $500 toward the kickstarter campaign.

Blogger ncartist November 04, 2015 7:53 AM  

O.T.
Facebook is studying the ancient Chinese game of Go for insights as it works on building an artificial brain - one that it hopes to turn into a virtual personal assistant that can also sort through a mountain of photos, videos and comments posted by its next billion or so users.

Analysis: For those who need to figure this out by someone named Lame Cherry, this proves that Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg has a working prototype and this is what has been employed to disrupt the exclusives exposing that nefarious conglomerate.

Read the latter and you will discover that A.I.s already exist and are fully developed.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 04, 2015 7:59 AM  

Student in Blue - Crystal Huff:

On the science fiction and fantasy side, Crystal has chaired or held key leadership positions with many volunteer-run SF&F conventions, including Readercon, a literary convention in its 26th year, and Arisia, New England’s largest and most diverse science fiction and fantasy convention. She is also an American representative on the executive board for the Helsinki bid for WorldCon in 2017, working with over 200 volunteers from 26 countries.

Crystal has a long history of anti-harassment work, including speaking about and advocating for anti-harassment policies at conventions worldwide. Her highest profile work was as the chair of the Readercon convention committee (concom) in 2012. A well-known member of the SF&F community harassed an attendee at the event and the Readercon board failed to enforce the con’s published anti-harassment policy. In partnership with Rose Fox, Crystal led the Readercon concom through a process of accountability and reform that resulted in a public apology, significant changes to the organization, and successful Readercon conventions in the years since. Their clear, honest, comprehensive public statement detailing their response is recommended reading for any organization serious about handling harassment well.

Anonymous Nxx November 04, 2015 7:59 AM  

Further to previous, here's a possible advertising pitch:

Are you so desperate you're willing to date a feminist? Worried you'll end up accused of rape for not disagreeing with her? Worry no more! Get an SJW Insurance Device and it's YOU who gets to press charges against HER! Go patriarchy!

Anonymous That Would Be Telling November 04, 2015 8:07 AM  

I still wonder how much of this can be shut down simply by requiring actual code to be submitted before you grant a voice.

Then the argument shifts to why bad code is not accepted. People have been tossed out of open source projects for not accepting SJW pronoun changes, and just five days ago Vox reported on a SJW attack that hinged on claims of rejections of submissions by "People of Color".

"Show me the code" is good rhetoric, but not useful for much else in this sort of fight.

Blogger Nate November 04, 2015 8:11 AM  

"
"Show me the code" is good rhetoric, but not useful for much else in this sort of fight."

Good rhetoric is the only thing that's good in this sort of fight.

failure to contribute is also an excellent reason to out-group someone.

Blogger Doom November 04, 2015 8:16 AM  

The nice thing about moderates is that they are the soft targets. When going after alpha-types doesn't work, the lead moderates prove easy, and often willing, targets. Once washed out, what is the odds on them getting back in. Sort of like steers that get ridden to a broken back... no fixing that.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 04, 2015 8:20 AM  

Ditto. Prototypical female behavior is to manipulate males. When a man feels the urge to be helpful to a woman who is not a relative he is almost certainly being subjected to subtle appeals to his ego.

It is almost certainly a trap of some sort.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling November 04, 2015 8:21 AM  

Good rhetoric is the only thing that's good in this sort of fight.

Not true in the open source software developer community, and why many of the claims in the comments to Vox's post about rosarior making mistakes were wrong. He needed to play the dialectic as well as rhetorical game to gain support of all the developers who are amenable to dialectic, which we tend to be because of the nature of the work. Computers are very literal minded, you might say, and anyone who successfully works with them has to be grounded in their unforgiving reality.

Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 8:21 AM  

@Nxx
Get an SJW Insurance Device and it's YOU who gets to press charges against HER!

A problem with that is I think different states have completely different requirements for recording without the other party knowing, legally.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 04, 2015 8:24 AM  

For all the claims that women were excluded from tech, the reality is that men were almost desperate to get more women in their college classes and workplaces. This made these sausagefests especially vulnerable to the toxic manipulation of prototypical women.

Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 8:25 AM  

@Nate
Good rhetoric is the only thing that's good in this sort of fight.

Ditto what @32 said. Software developers will be extremely bothered and unamenable if your rhetoric contains faulty dialectic.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2015 8:28 AM  

I still wonder how much of this can be shut down simply by requiring actual code to be submitted before you grant a voice.

Some, not all. Some of them can code. Sarah Sharpe wrote actual code for a few years before going nutty. The pre-op tranny who tried to force a Code on opal has some actual code on GitHub. Randi Harper apparently did contribute to FreeBSD for a while several years ago. It's hard to find any actual FreeBSD code with her name on it, and I've heard that some guys may have written stuff for her; but still, she would have crossed that bar, because people believed she contributed code, anyway. Her Twitter blockbot is 150 lines of basic Perl that, while not anything special, would be good enough to get her in the door of a project.

But you could stop a lot of them that way, because many of them now are too impatient to go to the trouble to write code for a month and establish a foothold before trying to impose their will.

The other problem, though, is that OS projects are desperate for people to do all the other stuff that coders don't want to stop coding to do: documentation, troubleshooting, curating lists, and all the boring housecleaning stuff. A non-coder can enter by doing those things. If a project tried to have a two-level caste system where coders have a "voice" and those people don't, it wouldn't get those people it needs. If you're going to do that, you might as well make it a monarchy with one voice at the top -- the guy who started the project. That would make more sense to people than giving a voice to the guy who's committed 50 lines of code but not to the guy who wrote 50 pages of documentation.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 04, 2015 8:29 AM  

If you think having video evidence that no crime or harassment occurred is slam-dunk protective you might wish to review the Duke LaCrosse team rape hoax. People only see what they want to see, and only that which fits their biases and Narrative.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2015 8:32 AM  

Were I Linus I'd run a reverse honey trap.

Cute idea, but that would be considered just another type of harassment, and he'd still be portrayed as the bad guy. Not worth it.

Blogger Nate November 04, 2015 8:35 AM  

"rhetoric contains faulty dialectic."

Good rhetoric contains no dialect at all.

Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 8:37 AM  

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Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 8:38 AM  

Good rhetoric contains no dialect at all.

People who are weak rhetoricians and native dialectics tend to read everything as dialectic, even rhetoric. So they'd see your dialectic-less rhetoric as instead malformed dialectic.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau November 04, 2015 8:53 AM  

Duke Lacrosse is a good point. They had time stamped ATM photos showing one of the guys wasn't even there and Nifong indicted him anyway because he needed the votes of the enraged 'Community' to get reelected in Durham. If these players had been middle class without the means for a good defense attorney they would still be in jail.

Blogger Nate November 04, 2015 9:10 AM  

Look... I know you're programmers and the notion of communication without a flowchart is terrifying to you... but at some point you're going to have to pull your head out of the sand and accept that this is a war of rhetoric. period.

All you are doing is making excuses for continuing to hold on to your beloved dialect. Let it go. It doesn't help.

Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 9:21 AM  

@Nate
All you are doing is making excuses for continuing to hold on to your beloved dialect.

It's not making excuses, it's pointing out that you're attempting to speak Italian and getting frustrated that the old dead Roman is not understanding you. If only they just grew up and spoke Italian instead of that old busted Latin!

Anonymous That Would Be Telling November 04, 2015 9:21 AM  

Nate: It's evident that you know nothing about us, and how are your current attempts to convince us by pure rhetoric working out?

Although you may have an incorrect perception of the domain we're talking about, it is only the software and systems community, and only the people in it who directly work with unforgiving, absolutely literal computers. We're not saying that in general dialectic is necessary or even useful, just that it is for a significant and critical fraction of this group. Especially when we are the not so Amenable Authorities in control of projects, which is one reason we find allegations that Linus Torvalds is subject to unrelenting honeypot attacks credible.

Anonymous elmer t. jones November 04, 2015 9:22 AM  

Ada Lovelace did not invent computer software as many SJWs allege. She was a bright woman and did not ask to be a feminist icon. Her work for Babbage consisted of translating an Italian paper on his machines into English. In effect she was the first "developer evangelist". Eventually Babbage tired of tutoring her and gave her the boot. In today's world he would be hauled before a tribunal for sexual harassment.

Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 9:27 AM  

I'm simply trying to point out, as has been pointed out before, you speak rhetoric to rhetorical thinkers and dialectic to dialectical thinkers.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 9:37 AM  

@2 Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery

Pornography in slides was a regular feature at many conferences in these areas,

Bullshit.
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It's absolute bullshit of the most steaming fresh kind.

A couple days ago a girlfriend had come over and I was watching SHIELD. At one point, Skye/Daisy was on there in her (i think)
gym clothes.

She then starts going on and on about it, how she needs to cover up.

After a minute, I say, "what the hell do you want her in a Burka?, "Why do you hate women so much", "So do you wear a giant coat while you are in the gym?" "You're welcome to leave as I continue watching my show" etc.

After a while she gave up :P

But yeah, a far cry from porno and you get this kind of reaction. It's nonsense, bullshit, has nothing to do with whatever may be going on story wise, and would have been completely ignored had she not made such a production out of it.

Blogger James Dixon November 04, 2015 9:42 AM  

> A problem with that is I think different states have completely different requirements for recording without the other party knowing, legally.

Put a standard shrink wrap license on it. By starting a conversation with you they agree to the use of the device and thus agree to the license terms, which allow you to record the conversations. If they refuse, they're using the device illegally, and can be prosecuted on that basis. As long as the device is readily visible, it should be arguable in court, at the very least. It may even hold up.

Blogger Miguel D'Anconia November 04, 2015 9:43 AM  

If they want to work in tech, they can still do so, they simply won't have the benefit of the expected hand-holding.
In other words, if they want to be in tech, they have to succeed like a guy, work for it. Ha! Ha!

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 9:48 AM  

OH yeah, another rhetoric I employed that was VERY effective was "save it for your cat-lady friends". That sent her into a 5 minute defense of how she doesn't have cat lady friends and sputter sputter :P

Anonymous Big Bill November 04, 2015 9:49 AM  

The problem of defensive measures like never being alone with women but doing it in a SECRETIVE manner is that the women are never forced to face their crookedness and be shamed by it.

Women need to SEE that you are taking security measures. Don't hide it. Be overt. Turn on the camera or recorder right in front of them. Ask your assistant to step into the room (as a monitor) right in front of them. Offer to talk to them only in an open area where there are many observers.

They need to feel the sting and the shame of knowing they cannot be trusted because of what their fellow females do.

Whether they are crooked or not, individually, they share in the female privilege produced by the female liars and dissemblers, so they must also share in the male distrust.

Most women would never lie or cooperate in a false flag operation, but they love the benefits they receive from it.

Anonymous Big Bill November 04, 2015 10:11 AM  

@10:
. In this case, they screamed about the police involvement:

-"victims don't always want to talk to police"

-"women and people of color don't feel safe with police"

-"it takes the decision making process out of the victim's hands"


God! You have to love it! Thirty years ago those same feminists demanded that police make a mandatory arrest at any domestic dispute call to the police.

Why? Because women were so oppressed at home that they would rarely press charges against the man they were yelling/fighting with.

So police departments across the country now arrest someone for "domestic violence" whenever they are called.

The cops will ask sneaky questions just enough to get to the mandatory arrest threshold ("Did you argue? Did he yell? Were you afraid?") and then they jail the guy.

Feminists even got the laws changed so the woman doesn't even have to press charges. In fact, she can deny that ANYTHING happened at trial and they can STILL convict the guy based on the cop's notes.

Worse, feminists travel the country training police departments how to use these techniques.

Some of the nicer policemen will give the couple an option: "You were arguing/fighting, so one of you has to go to jail. You can pick between the two of you which one it will be."

But now these oppressed feminist coders say they are afraid of the cops and want to deal with harassment on their own, huh? They now decide they don't like the very laws they agitated for?

I call BS.

Blogger The Other Robot November 04, 2015 10:38 AM  

Read some of the commets about Valerie Henson.

I agree she is a sociopath and she got it from her father.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 10:44 AM  

@3 Lovekraft
over at Youtube, Thunderf00t put up a video demonstrating his defence against a concentrated campaign to get him fired. Recommended as encouragement, display of sjw evil, and methods of counter-attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5TMmxlsLN8
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This is beautiful.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 10:46 AM  

@4 Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery

The Ada Initiative - Would You Bang?

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I wouldn't even bang them with your banger.

Blogger Quadko November 04, 2015 10:47 AM  

Ironically, it never really crosses their minds to treat women differently than men...
I've often laughed at the "Women and men are identical so men have to change to be like women" idea behind so much of the public squabbles law changing.

As I recall, it's a form of narcissism if you don't comprehend that other people are different than you are. And "flaming narcissist" describes so many of these SJWs. "I want it my way! Waaaaah."

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 10:52 AM  

@22 Nate

My gut tells me these SJWs can't code. They can't do anything productive. They don't pick their field by any skillset... SJW is their skillset.
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I don't know about OSS, but in regular companies they are brought in through HR departments.

Anonymous Giuseppe The Kurgan November 04, 2015 10:53 AM  

Steve TDNOM,
"The Ada Initiative - Would You Bang?"

To which, being a Kurgan and noted pussy hunter/expert, I cannot help but comment on their specific pathologies.

"Valerie Aurora. Co-founder, the Ada Initiative"
You can tell from the utter bitterness and acidity, she not only needs an orgasm desperately, she also cannot get one. Curing her would require massive electroshock "therapy" delivered by metal Anal probe to give her a squirting fainting orgasm. As this could only be delivered by tying her down and then spanking her while she has to scream "thank you sir!" it's unlikely she will ever be "cured". Even if she were, normal sex would never satisfy her and only twisted forms of s&m sex would ever keep her borderline sane. Spanking for obedience training would need to be daily. Verdict: incurable in the West. Possibly partly curable by advanced battalions of ISIS men who have access to car batteries and metal probes.


Mary Gardiner. Co-founder, the Ada Initiative
Never had an orgasm in her life. If a medalluon wearing Guido makes her cum properly she would demurely begin baking him cakes, mending his socks and serving him drinks when he gets home feom work. She would scream loudly every time. And be ashamed of it but addicted to it.

Andrea Horbinski. Secretary of the Board,
Never had an orgasm. Not likely to ever have one. She believes in the curative powers of ice cream more than the mythological beast called orgasm.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 10:54 AM  

@24 Nxx
BUSINESS IDEA:

SJW Insurance Device: A medallion type accessory that records everything like a dashcam.
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There are video camera pens and all sorts of things out there already.

Blogger tweell November 04, 2015 10:55 AM  

Big Bill is right. Wear a big button stating Recording Journalist. This keeps you legal everywhere. You are an independent journalist. This way there's no assumption of privacy. There are plenty of bodycams and spy pens on sale at Amazon at decent prices.

Most of us cannot afford an entourage, and I know I can get suckered into being alone with someone if I'm not watchful, but a recording system doesn't get fooled as easily.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 11:07 AM  

@49 James Dixon
> A problem with that is I think different states have completely different requirements for recording without the other party knowing, legally.

Put a standard shrink wrap license on it. By starting a conversation with you they agree to the use of the device and thus agree to the license terms, which allow you to record the conversations. If they refuse, they're using the device illegally, and can be prosecuted on that basis. As long as the device is readily visible, it should be arguable in court, at the very least. It may even hold up.
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Here's the part I don't get. Aren't the legal issues about recording solely about being admitted into a court case? If so, then you could still use the device to record conversations and video. Most of this SJW nonsense avoids court anyway. You can still use it against them in many other ways.

OpenID Jack Amok November 04, 2015 11:10 AM  

Conferences are a relatively recent development in open source, and it is in such an environment that the SJWs can run amok

I've attended and presented at tech conferences. They're morale events more than tech events - there's some value in getting people energized about something, but very limited tech value. Mostly they're a chance to party and do social networking. In other words, not really in the wheelhouse of most coders.

The rise of OSS conferences is the result of non-coders trying to get control of OSS projects. SJWs are a natural fit for that environment. They volunteer for all those "helper" jobs Cail mentioned.

Well, the economy will help put an end to conferences anyway. Fewer people will be willing to spend the money on travel and parties. They'll be replaced by broadcasts, digital conferences etc.

NOTE to Castalia House: don't know if you have any interest at all in the market (if there even is one anymore), but what you learn from doing Brainstorm might be useful if CH ever started publishing tech books. In the spirit of building parallel institutions, you could be the replacement for the suddenly too-expensive and too-dangerous tech conferences.

Anonymous Giuseppe The Kurgan November 04, 2015 11:19 AM  

Indeed. Anyone who has the time to dig in Ada will find mass graves of rotting foulness

Blogger Dave November 04, 2015 11:21 AM  

@Were-Puppy - A couple days ago a girlfriend had come over

A girlfriend not THE girlfriend. A male coder with game?

Blogger dh November 04, 2015 11:27 AM  

She served as the Chief Coherence Officer of Luminoso, a Boston-area startup building text analytics software that actively open sources some of its software.

This company makes mostly vapor that searches tweets and Facebook messages and produces reports about it. That's it. They were all VC-backed, and appear to be running on vapors. Their open source software - that they have released - has a horrible reputation. They are full of retreads from other industries and a very small Round A financing pool.

It is clearly a company designed to be acquired by Twitter or Facebook directly for their "technology". Not long for this world.

Big surprise. You can't have 30 employees, and have a few C-level's and then have position called "Chief Coherence Officer" and expect to make it big.

Blogger Anthony November 04, 2015 11:32 AM  

@53 - in the Bay Area, the police actually deal with this in equal fashion - two of my male friends have called the cops on their (now ex-)wives for throwing things, hitting them, etc., and both women spent a night or more in jail for it. Two different counties.

OpenID Jack Amok November 04, 2015 11:34 AM  

Giuseppe, was that a marketing excerpt from the upcoming book "Fifty Shades of Guido" by Joe Kurgan?

Blogger Anthony November 04, 2015 11:36 AM  

@62 - Here's the part I don't get. Aren't the legal issues about recording solely about being admitted into a court case? If so, then you could still use the device to record conversations and video. Most of this SJW nonsense avoids court anyway. You can still use it against them in many other ways.

In some places, even making the recording without the other party's knowledge is a criminal (usually misdemeanor) offense. So while making it public can defend you against the initial claim, it can land you in hot water with objective evidence against you.



Unless it automatically adds in the recording beeps every 15 seconds to the audio track.

Anonymous LLC November 04, 2015 11:42 AM  

Reminds me of the teacher education program. (I eventually got kicked out, in part because I wasn't politically correct enough and offended one of the professors.) They stress, over and over, that you should never be alone with a student; in the off chance you are, the door to your classroom or office should always remain open.

Why? Because false accusations happen, and regardless of falsity, it can cost you your job.

Fortunately, when I was a manager, I had an all-male team so it was never an issue.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 12:00 PM  

@65 Dave
@Were-Puppy - A couple days ago a girlfriend had come over

A girlfriend not THE girlfriend. A male coder with game?
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I have to plead ignorance on game. I haven't taken time to learn about it other than in posts here.

But you got me on coder, been doing that for a long time.

Blogger Brad Andrews November 04, 2015 12:05 PM  

They say women were not welcome in tech. I know the "women in engineering" push was started at least by the time I graduated from an engineering college in the mid 1980s.

Quite self seeking and pulled out of thin air on the part of those in the Ada Project.

Blogger Brad Andrews November 04, 2015 12:07 PM  

Is being alone with anyone good today, given the push for turning all things sexual? Would you want to be alone with a closet homosexual who wanted to advance on your corpse?

Blogger Brad Andrews November 04, 2015 12:08 PM  

@71 Were-Puppy

You would not have to study game to use the principles.

Blogger Student in Blue (now with blog) November 04, 2015 12:23 PM  

@Were-Puppy
Aren't the legal issues about recording solely about being admitted into a court case?

IANAL, but I think illegal recordings can be suppressed by courts if someone gets a ruling in their favor, i.e. being censored and/or taken down. May also get you fined but I'm far less sure about that.

Anonymous kfg November 04, 2015 12:58 PM  

" Aren't the legal issues about recording solely about being admitted into a court case?"

No, the issue is eavesdropping, which is itself an offence. Some jurisdictions hold that the device itself, for legal purposes, is a listening entity, and thus, if some party is unaware of its presence, an eavesdropper.

Some other jurisdictions hole that even though the device is not a legal entity, it may still constitute a violation of privacy, as the recording can have a "life of its own" beyond the parties involved. A sort of temporally shifted eavesdropping.

The jurisdictions that allow single party recording hold that there is no legal difference between notes taken by electronic recording and those taken by mechanical writing.

Blogger Josh November 04, 2015 1:00 PM  

Big surprise. You can't have 30 employees, and have a few C-level's and then have position called "Chief Coherence Officer" and expect to make it big.

What in the hell does a chief coherence office do?

Anonymous bgd November 04, 2015 1:01 PM  

Duke Lacrosse ..If these players had been middle class without the means for a good defense attorney they would still be in jail.

if they where n1663rs that roughed up a hooker the DA wouldn't bother with them.

Blogger Josh November 04, 2015 1:12 PM  

if they where n1663rs that roughed up a hooker the DA wouldn't bother with them.

Given the number of blacks that are arrested and incarcerated, that's an absurd statement.

Anonymous kfg November 04, 2015 1:17 PM  

Josh, you need the statistics for roughed up hookers before you can know it's absurd.

Blogger CorkyAgain November 04, 2015 1:26 PM  

@22

"Show me the code" is a good motto, but unfortunately most open-source projects need documentation too and that creates an opening for non-coders.

Blogger FrankNorman November 04, 2015 1:32 PM  

People, are you assuming that having video proof that an SJW's accusations are false will matter?
These are people who think they can be the opposite gender they are, just by "identifying" as it.
Probably they will start screaming that their feelings about what happened should matter more than the facts.

Blogger CorkyAgain November 04, 2015 1:33 PM  

@36

Cail, you made the point much better than I could, and I should have read all the comments before adding my own. My bad.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) November 04, 2015 1:45 PM  

-"it takes the decision making process out of the victim's hands"
Because vigilante justice is the best justice.

Because SJW's feel they've been oppressed & beaten in an unfair system, they believe that gives them the moral right to treat their enemies the same way.

Blogger Kallmunz November 04, 2015 2:05 PM  

http://news.yahoo.com/researcher-quits-sex-claims-against-ex-un-climate-075223842.html;_ylt=AwrC0wxKRTpWAhUAReTQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBydWNmY2MwBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM0BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--


Kind of curious of what your take on this should be. Should we take her word unquestionably because that's what a liberal like him would do to us? Let every liberal take note that he'll have no backup.
Or.
Is it better to play it straight?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 04, 2015 2:24 PM  

@74 Brad Andrews
@71 Were-Puppy

You would not have to study game to use the principles.
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I'll try and take a look at it soon.

Blogger Desiderius November 04, 2015 2:32 PM  

"Because SJW's feel they've been oppressed & beaten in an unfair system, they believe that gives them the moral right to treat their enemies the same way."

You've got the causality backwards. Man is a rationalizing, not a rational, animal. Human fallenness in a nutshell.

Blogger John Wright November 04, 2015 2:41 PM  

I would like the women libbers to tell me once again why the days when women were treated with respect, and chaperoned, and went to separate schools from men, were somehow so bad and evil -- when in fact we now see the some clear social boundary or definition clearly separating public and private encounters between men and women are not only needed to protect women, but to protect men, from the unscrupulous.

Despite what the feminist woman-haters have told you, not ever custom and law of our grandmothers' day and age was some sort of power play or cruel misogynist oppression.

Some of them -- maybe all -- were common sense measures meant to make life free of irritation, accusation, or disaster.

Blogger Josh November 04, 2015 3:01 PM  

I would like the women libbers to tell me once again why the days when women were treated with respect, and chaperoned, and went to separate schools from men, were somehow so bad and evil

Because the ugly girls were unhappy and the pretty girls were happy.

Blogger Feather Blade November 04, 2015 3:53 PM  

@33 @Nxx
Get an SJW Insurance Device and it's YOU who gets to press charges against HER!


A problem with that is I think different states have completely different requirements for recording without the other party knowing, legally.


You could always inscribe the medallion with something like "Smile! You're on Candid Camera!"

Anonymous kfg November 04, 2015 4:15 PM  

" Her work for Babbage consisted of translating an Italian paper on his machines into English."

Her reputation comes from a marginal note she made in her translation. It can be interpreted as an algorithm. What she in fact did was make explicit that which the author had left implicit, because obvious.

Anonymous Rhys O'Reilly November 04, 2015 6:24 PM  

If you think having video evidence that no crime or harassment occurred is slam-dunk protective you might wish to review the Duke LaCrosse team rape hoax. People only see what they want to see, and only that which fits their biases and Narrative.

We're talking about a man who is almost considered God in certain circles, not some fratboys no one knows.


Cute idea, but that would be considered just another type of harassment, and he'd still be portrayed as the bad guy. Not worth it.

That is why you have to control the narrative. You don't just release the footage. You spread it, crying about harassment against yourself. You lament about how you can no longer help genuine promising female coders all because of one manipulative bitch. You talk, being sure to have an emotional crack in your voice, that you have always trusted women and thought the best of them but now you can't even trust your wife/gf who you love very much...

You (or in this case it would be Linus) have to go on the offensive. Lay on the rhetoric. Appeal to (feminine) emotion. Boost the signal. Control the narrative and shape yourself as the innocent victim who just wanted to help and her as the conniving fame whore.

Could Linus do this? Easily. Could the Duke Lacrosse team have done this? Of course but it would have meant going public straight away and building their own story. Instead of more lawyers they needed some publicists.


A problem with that is I think different states have completely different requirements for recording without the other party knowing, legally.

If you are just a regular guy and your choice is between 20 years for rape and a slap on the wrist for illegally recording something then who cares.

If you are talking about Linus pulling a reverse honey trap then obviously he (or you if you want to try it) should look at the laws of each state and exclude those that don't allow secret recordings.

You would probably get away with it regardless, provided you went on the offensive and controlled the narrative. The DA/prosecutor is amendable to public opinion and does not want to be seen as the bad guy. If you have public sympathy on your side it's very unlikely you'll be prosecuted.

Rhetoric = tactics
The narrative = strategy

The narrative is the whole story, built by rhetoric, to shape the public perception in your favour. The left is brilliant at building/controlling the narrative. Rhetoric on its own isn't enough. You need to have a strategy, a narrative, to fit it into.

Look at the Travyon shooting.

Rhetoric = He was buying skittles
Rhetoric = childhood photos
Rhetoric = Zimmerman was white and racist.

And so on, all of which helped build the narrative of evil white wannabe cop out to kill a nigger who shot poor, innocent little saint Travyon with his blessed skittles.

The narrative is so strong that once established a fair number of people will accept nothing that does not fit their narrative. The Duke Lacrosse team failed because by the time they released anything public the narrative had already been built and people had made up their minds.


Aren't the legal issues about recording solely about being admitted into a court case?

Yes. But if you are only releasing this footage at trial you have let it go too far. Make copies. Show the arresting cops. If they don't drop all charges then have a friend (or three) release it on the net. By the time trial come around the narrative is set and the twelve idiots too dumb to get out of jury duty have their minds already made up (even if the power tripper in the black robe let's them see it). Better to make it public early on and poison potential jurors. The court system is as broke as everything else. Don't rely on justice or truth winning out.

Anonymous Khyron November 04, 2015 6:43 PM  

The ADA initiative staged a stink at B-Sides.

I had no plans to attend this talk (sex +/- drugs: known vulns and exploits), but I have no issue with presentations on sex as such.

The talk ended up being cancelled details HERE

“Well, there’s been a complaint about your talk.” He continued, “It’s from someone who is a rape survivor and they said they will be triggered by your talk if there’s any rape in it.”

“No, no, there’s no rape in my talk. I talk about human sexual systems and the effects drugs, including caffeine and alcohol, affect the performance of these systems and the dangers of mixing different things. What’s going on here?”

He replied, “Someone has said they will be triggered by your talk, and they’re a rape survivor.”


There was another event where an ADA woman brought a reporter and tried to stir up controversy to prove tech was sexist.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2015 7:20 PM  

How narcissistic and megalomaniacal do you have to be to think, "Hmm, I see on the schedule that something will be happening later today in room 213 that might make me uncomfortable. I can't be sure, but the description of the event mentions subjects that are related to a subject that bothers me. The event is voluntary; I could go to a different presentation, or go get some lunch while it's going. That way it wouldn't hurt me. [Thinking it over.] No, I think instead I'll track down one of the organizers, make a pathetic spectacle of myself by crying about how sticks and stones may break my bones but words will give me a psychotic breakdown, and get it canceled so no one else can go to it either. I insist on controlling not just everything within the range of my senses, but all parts of the universe of which I become aware."

Blogger The Other Robot November 04, 2015 8:32 PM  

Her reputation comes from a marginal note she made in her translation. It can be interpreted as an algorithm. What she in fact did was make explicit that which the author had left implicit, because obvious.

Do you have a link?

That sounds like a good explanation but I would like to see the video.

Anonymous kfg November 04, 2015 11:48 PM  

"Do you have a link?"

To a research paper behind a paywall or a rather expensive book, I'm afraid. The author is Allan G. Bromley, a historian of the Analytical Engine.

"That sounds like a good explanation but I would like to see the video."

So would I. The problem is sorting out what of her work was actually her own thought, and that which was really transcribing Babbage's thoughts.

Blogger Desiderius November 05, 2015 12:01 AM  

"How narcissistic and megalomaniacal do you have to be"

She got away with it, so not so manic at all. Any mental illness would seem to be on the part of those who let her get away with it.

Evil, sure, but not crazy.

Anonymous Mark Dietzler November 05, 2015 1:01 AM  

Not being alone behind closed doors with a female in a professional setting is pretty much SOP in much of the US, why it should be any different in the software development community I don't know.
Hell, even in the military that is standard practice. I used it myself with female subordinates. Given that SJWs are actively trying to hem people up, I would record any interactions with females.

Blogger The Other Robot November 05, 2015 10:41 AM  

To a research paper behind a paywall or a rather expensive book, I'm afraid. The author is Allan G. Bromley, a historian of the Analytical Engine.

Ahhh, Link+ should be able to get that for me.

Meanwhile, here is a link to her translation:

A sketch of The Analytic Engine invented by Charles Babbage

Blogger The Other Robot November 05, 2015 10:48 AM  

Bingo:

In particular, matters such as the
intended user’s instruction set are difficult to determine,
although there are several dozen sample programs
prepared between 1837 and 1840 (all, incidentally,
substantially predating the preparation of Ada
Lovelace’s notes, which incorporate several of them).


From here: Charles Babbage's Analytic Engine by Allan G Bromley.

Blogger The Other Robot November 05, 2015 11:30 AM  

There is another paper by Bromley that is relevant but I cannot find a freely available version.

Blogger The Other Robot November 05, 2015 6:15 PM  

A whimsical look at Femtrain a feminist programming language.

Blogger Dago November 05, 2015 6:40 PM  

Guido the Medallion wearer is the frustrated feminists only hope!

Blogger The Other Robot November 05, 2015 8:24 PM  

A whimsical look at Femtrain a feminist programming language.

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