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Thursday, November 12, 2015

Poland belongs to the Poles

The Polish nationalists are on the march and they're burning the Fourth Reich flag.
Tens of thousands of protesters poured into Warsaw's streets on Wednesday for a demonstration organised by the far right, marching under the slogan "Poland for the Polish" and burning an EU flag.

Police said 25,000 people joined the march, which marked the anniversary of Poland's return to independence after the First World War, while organisers put the numbers at 50,000.

"God, honour, homeland," chanted the protesters as they marched under a sea of red-and-white Polish flags.

Demonstrators trampled and burned a European Union flag at one point, while a banner added to the anti-EU theme with the slogan "EU macht frei" ("Work makes you free" in German), a reference to the slogan over the gates at Auschwitz.

"Yesterday it was Moscow, today it's Brussels which takes away our freedom," chanted one group of protesters.
God, honor, homeland. There are worse causes. And kudos to whoever came up with the "EU macht frei" meme. If the anti-EU campaigners in the UK have any sense whatsoever, we'll be seeing that phrase a lot in the coming year. And for all the Americans who keep saying that Europe is dead, well, I see a lot of pictures of hundreds of thousands of European nationalists marching and taking action.

Where are the American nationalists?

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Anonymous FriarBob November 12, 2015 8:07 AM  

The EU is what's dead. Or at least mortally wounded. Doesn't mean Europe itself is dead.

Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 8:09 AM  

"EU macht frei"

Oh that's a nice touch.

Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 8:10 AM  

"And for all the Americans who keep saying that Europe is dead..."

The peace following WWII has misinformed 3 generations of americans on the nature of europe and europeans.

OpenID paworldandtimes November 12, 2015 8:12 AM  

Alt-Right is also starting to understand that the time for being giddy over hot White girls as the face of nationalism is passing.

Women are discreetly moved to the background as determined men become the public face of our movement.

-PA

OpenID paworldandtimes November 12, 2015 8:16 AM  

The "dead Europeans" meme kicked into high gear fifteen years ago as Neocons played on conservative Americans' vanity to rally their support for the Iraq war, which the European states opposed.

-PA

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau November 12, 2015 8:28 AM  

Unleash the Winged Hussars!

Blogger Hammerli280 November 12, 2015 8:35 AM  

@4 paworldandtimes:

The hot white girls are Why We Fight.

And I'm pleased to see Europe starting to get well. To recover its strength and self-confidence.

OpenID simplytimothy November 12, 2015 8:36 AM  

Where are the American nationalists?

Where they are:

At the gun-shop preparing for war
Trump supporters.
Teaparty
vdare.com

Where they are not

Congress
White House
bureaucracy
FedGov
Government schools
WSJ
NRO

Obamer tried to pull an invasion with his Mexican gambit and has, so far, failed to get the numbers he wanted. So, the Americans are still working within the political system without resorting to violence. Had the Mexican gambit worked as the EU's gambit has, the potamac would be a river of blood.






Blogger Durandel Almiras November 12, 2015 8:40 AM  

God bless them. That's just beautiful to see them doing this and to see the young involved.

I'm liking the memetic warfare too.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 8:41 AM  

American nationalism is gathering steam. We haven't leaped forward quite as dramatically as the European nationalism movements, because our situation is on a slower simmer rather than boiling over as Europe is. But the exact same sentiments are gathering steam very quickly in America. Personally, I'm still amazed at how quickly the mood has changed on immigration, on the trustworthiness of the government and the media, etc. Even GOPe actors have started to figure out that something is really going wrong and that its not going to change by doing more of the same. As Leftist over-reach continues, somehow blissfully unaware of what they're starting to wake up, Americans are getting more and more irritated at them. There's very little patience left in much of America already.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 8:42 AM  

And yeah; I saw this yesterday and thought the same thing: EU macht frei is pretty dang brilliant.

Blogger So Meh November 12, 2015 8:44 AM  

Work makes you free...debt does not...so off to work we go. whatever is coming, better to be debt free when facing it. Where are the American nationalists? I think many have or are planning to leave the country...I'd say some already to Italy. Over the last 5+ years, without any sort of prompting from me, I've had numerous conversations with middle, to upper middle class, to rich that are exploring buying property in Panama City, Panama. I've never been there, and never had an interest in visiting, but my interest may increase after this next election and more impromptu conversations. Also, it seems almost daily on the Drudge Report...there are articles reporting on record gun and ammunition sales. there is a feeling, not just in my own silly mind, a shoe is going to drop (i assume financial sector...so much debt) and then things will get interesting.

OpenID paworldandtimes November 12, 2015 8:48 AM  

"The hot white girls are Why We Fight."

I disagree. The Why We Fight is White children, present and future. Hot White girls are not an idol for display. Their role is to support us quietly and with all their heart.

-PA

Anonymous Mayflower November 12, 2015 8:48 AM  

It's hard to be optimistic about a political awakening for America men. The younger generation was marinated in Marxist anti-white propaganda and the baby boomers were bought off with free love, pensions and early retirement. Gen Xers may be the most awake as they finished their education before schools went 100% PC and they have seen first hand the transformation that occurred from the 70s to present. They also know that they won't have that cushy retirement bubble the baby boomers have. I'm really not certain what it will take to get the average American male to find an interest in anything besides watching sports, porn and trying to get laid. Most admit that America has turned into a toilet bowel, but they will also tell you that this shitty state of affairs is inevitable and that the only rational thing to do is accept it and not get upset about it. Go along to get along. What they don't understand is that they are the only ones that are trying to "get along". The system they live under is becoming explicitly and hysterically anti-white and their children and grand-children are going to be punished, degraded and marginalized for simply being white.

The best option that I can see given the lack of balls that Americans have is to have things continue to go jump the shark crazy and the anti-white left and non-whites serve as the catalyst to officially re-segregate portions of the US. The current leftist strategy to demonize whites where-ever found and yet at the same time, chase down whites with diversity in every corner of the nation (white genocide), is a recipe for explosive conflict, esp. when we are quickly running out of safe white spaces. When flight is no longer an option, fight comes in to play. But that option still seems very distant given the extreme tolerance, risk aversion and conflict avoidance displayed by most American men.

Blogger David-093 November 12, 2015 8:49 AM  

"Where are the American nationalists?"

Americans are nationalistic by default. The rise of Trump is taking that nationalism to new heights. The alt-Right are young nationalists that have focused mainly on recruiting and spreading propaganda.

"The peace following WWII has misinformed 3 generations of americans on the nature of europe and europeans."

Nothing makes a European happier than killing another European.

Anonymous Geoff November 12, 2015 8:51 AM  

Good for the Poles. Even their women are high quality according to RooshV. They haven't been tainted by Feminism.

Blogger Bies Podkrakowski November 12, 2015 8:52 AM  

I've checked the link and damn, where the western journalist get their info about Poland? Probably from their polish counterparts from the mainstream media. Who, predictably are rather leftish and pro-EU.

First it was peaceful event. Compared to the last year Independence Day it was downright pacifistic, almost boring. There were only a handful cases of unrest, most participants simply marched and waved flags. The firecracker are by now an honorable tradition, almost not worth mentioning.

But you could almost hear the disappointment in the voices of journalists and talking heads that were commenting on the event.

The fact that conservatives won elections in October may have something to do with all this pacifism. Previous marches were in part demonstration against government. Also both police and Nationalist were much better organized this year. The other funny explanation I heard was that losers from pro-European Civic Platform didn't have enough money left to stir up trouble.

Second it was not 50 thousand. It was between 70 - 115 thousands (lower number given by the police, higher by the organizers).

Third the slogan for the march was not "Poland for the Polish". It was “Poland for Poles, Poles for Poland”.

Blogger Salt November 12, 2015 8:52 AM  

Where are the American nationalists?

Probably watching reruns of last Sunday's football games.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 8:59 AM  

Nothing makes a European happier than killing another European.

One thing does. Killing Saracen invaders.

Anonymous Gecko November 12, 2015 9:00 AM  

After seeing the videos of the zombie hordes, I got to wondering: after the dust settles from the SHTF, I wouldn't be shocked to see the reinstitution of slavery in Europe.

If not, that's a lot of fertilizer. Right, Viidad?

Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 9:15 AM  

"Probably watching reruns of last Sunday's football games."

at NASCAR races.

Anonymous Eric Ashley November 12, 2015 9:16 AM  

I see, Col. Kratman, who wrote 'Caliphate' was unaware of European history.

The 'dead European' meme came to a large part from the Europeans. What you're seeing is more akin to Paul Johnson's description of the 70's as 'America's Suicide Attempt' which was followed by 'Morning in America' and Ronaldus Magnus.

A rising generation with more of a clue arrives...

Blogger JartStar November 12, 2015 9:19 AM  

Where are the American nationalists?

There won't be any serious nationalists, just secessionists.

Anonymous Eric Ashley November 12, 2015 9:21 AM  

The unions whined about how Sunday afternoon drives destroyed the desire of men to sit around in hot, sweaty union halls and listen to agitprop.

The alt-right whines about how listening to thundering engines that shake the ground, drinking beer, and watching football destroys men's desire to hang about oh-so-dreadfully interesting web pages inside while its a beautiful fall day outside.

Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 9:22 AM  

@Gaiseric
American nationalism is gathering steam. We haven't leaped forward quite as dramatically as the European nationalism movements, because our situation is on a slower simmer rather than boiling over as Europe is.

Building on that, I'd say it's also because A) America is just plain bigger in land and population, so getting that critical 10% for the idea to spread is harder, B) we've been hammered by "the melting pot" idea for a long time now and C) there hasn't been a homogeneous population in.. ever? Only since Civil Rights became a thing did whites get lumped in together and start being its own identity, rather than German and Italian, and that was to support the narrative of white vs black.

It's ironic, really. I don't think whites would have coalesced around nationalism if they weren't even mashed together to form "black vs white". I'm not an expert on black culture either, but I'm wondering if it's much the same for them - it's just black, not ethnically Gambian or Zulu or Congolese.

Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 9:25 AM  

"There won't be any serious nationalists, just secessionists. "

They're nationalists... there just is no american nation.

Anonymous Rolf November 12, 2015 9:30 AM  

Epiphany: a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something, usually initiated by some simple, homely, or commonplace occurrence or experience.

Also see: Preference Cascade

The frozen flounder of reality can smack some sense into people with amazingly rapidity when conditions are right. Some people are a little slow on the uptake (cough SJW cough), but you can only ignore reality for so long before it stops ignoring you.

Blogger Cecil Henry November 12, 2015 9:31 AM  

The EU not admits that White Genocide by policy in the deliberate plan. This is pure evil

'Secret EU plot exposed: they are holding an EU-Africa summit to get more immigrants'

http://whiterabbitradio.net/secret-eu-plot-exposed-they-are-holding-an-eu-africa-summit-to-get-more-immigrants

The EU illegal immigration crisis just took an unexpected twist – a special EU-Africa Summit is being held in Malta, where EU leaders will be asking African nations for legal Africans immigrants – and will pay for them.

The plan is to send failed asylum seekers home (ones who have no lawful reason to stay), and replace them with “skilled” immigration from African countries. In return the EU rulers will “offer new financial resources” to the African countries.

The EU rulers had tried to keep this a secret, but during an interview, Angela Merkel slipped up and revealed the objective of the summit.

“And of course, we will also ask the question: How can we take, for example, young Africans legally into Germany, when it comes to professions which we have occupational shortages in. It’s enlightening that we have not yet done enough.”

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 9:32 AM  

They're nationalists... there just is no american nation.

There's something to be said for that. I consider myself an ethnic Texan, descended from the Northern English (which themselves were a syncretic amalgam of Vikings of the Danelaw, Anglo-Saxons of Northumbria, and Scottish borderlanders) who hated authority. They came to American prior to the Revolution when England was consolidating its control of the island to be free, immediately were as turned off by the elitist plantation owners as they were the proto-totalitarian Yankees. I consider that identity more important to me still than "American."

Blogger John November 12, 2015 9:33 AM  

Would "Einwanderung macht frei" work as an American adaptation of the meme?

Blogger ZhukovG November 12, 2015 9:39 AM  

@23. JartStar

I believe you and Nate in comment 26 have the right of it. There is no single European-American culture in the US. Most people in the US either identify to some extent with their old European culture or with their region.

Native Texans and Native Southerners are for the most part Texas and Southern Nationalists even if they don't consciously identify as such.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any other regions that have a strong native nationalism. I guess Native Hawaiians and some Pre-Columbus Native Americans.

Deo Vindice!

Blogger Red Jack November 12, 2015 9:43 AM  

@31 The West.

Trust me. We are not southern, we are not Yankee's. They just are many left.

Blogger David-093 November 12, 2015 9:45 AM  

Southerners are their own ethnicity, same thing with New England, Texas, Cascadia, the Midwest, and elsewhere.

Blogger The Other Robot November 12, 2015 9:51 AM  

Immigration macht frei!

Anonymous Swiggy November 12, 2015 9:54 AM  

You guys are on the wrong side of history

Blogger ZhukovG November 12, 2015 9:55 AM  

@32. Red Jack

I have lived in various parts of the Western US, mostly Colorado and New Mexico. I would say that if there is native nationalism in the Western States, it is actually several nationalisms based on local cultures. Colorado for instance has a culture on the eastern plains and a very different culture on the Western Slope.

Then there is also the Mormon West, which might become nationalistic due to shared faith.

But at least in my experience I didn't see anything that I could definitely call nationalism among the whites out west.

However, I would welcome correction on this point from those who live out there now.

Blogger Antonio From Spain November 12, 2015 9:55 AM  

@Student in Blue
"America is just plain bigger in land and population"


USA: 321M
EU: 508M

Blogger The Other Robot November 12, 2015 10:00 AM  

You guys are on the wrong side of history

And we are smart and happy, unlike those who think they are on the right side of history.

Anonymous Soga November 12, 2015 10:00 AM  

You guys are on the wrong side of history

That's what the losers historically always said.

Blogger The Other Robot November 12, 2015 10:00 AM  

Obama macht frei.

Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 10:03 AM  

@Antonio From Spain
USA: 321M
EU: 508M


I knew someone would do this.

EU is not a nation.

The US is. Or at least has attempted to be since the Civil War/War of Secession/Damn That Lincoln War.

That's why, in terms of nationalism, we're comparing nations.

Blogger ScuzzaMan November 12, 2015 10:05 AM  

"Where are the American nationalists?"

Voting Republican Hope and Change

Blogger Jakeithus November 12, 2015 10:05 AM  

"They're nationalists... there just is no american nation."

I had the same thought about Canada. There is no issue or shared cultural trait that would inspire Canadians to show the pride and unity that these Poles are showing. I'm 100% serious when I say that hockey is the only thing Canadians have in common that brings any sort of shared passion.

The rest of the time Canadians hold thinly veiled contempt for one another. The West hates being told what to do and how to act by the East. Our Eastern Elites really do think themselves the natural rulers of their intellectual and moral inferiors in the rest of the country, while the Maritimes lack the population or economic strength to influence their own destinies. Meanwhile many Quebecois want nothing to do with any of the rest.

When you don't share a culture with your neighbour, it makes it tough to defend what you do have.

Blogger TheRedSkull November 12, 2015 10:06 AM  

How many Polacks does it take to unscrew an EU?

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer November 12, 2015 10:09 AM  

Anyone stating that someone is on the right or wrong side of history is signaling that they are a complete and utter moron.

Yeah, I'm looking at you Obama.

Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 10:10 AM  

" I'm 100% serious when I say that hockey is the only thing Canadians have in common that brings any sort of shared passion."

Hockey... and shitty beer.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 10:10 AM  

I like that name. Damn That Lincoln War. Nice one, @41! I usually go for the more traditional War of Northern Aggression, or War of Yankee Tyranny, but Damn That Lincoln has a nice ring to it.

But that also indirectly highlights some of the problems we see here. Although I consider myself an ethnic Texan, I consider ethnic Southerners to be my close cousins, and welcome allies. For much of the American West as well, until you get to the Left Coast. I can imagine a pluralistic nation that includes them.

I'm struggling to see the survival of the pluralistic "nation" we have now where a bunch of totalitarians of cultural Yankee extraction are grouped in with the rest of us, though.

Blogger The Other Robot November 12, 2015 10:11 AM  

Whoa: Moral equivalence

Anonymous Geoff November 12, 2015 10:22 AM  

Jakeithus@43

One thing for which the previous Conservative govt never received enough credit was national unity. Both the West and Quebec have been very quiet for the past decade. Look for that to change under the new Liberal govt.

Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 10:31 AM  

"For much of the American West as well, until you get to the Left Coast. I can imagine a pluralistic nation that includes them."

I used to think that... but as a southron... I found Westerners were just damn wierd. Culturally we are extremely different. For example... in the west... two men discussing a serious topic will stand side by side and won't look at each other much... much less look right in each others eyes.

In the South... if you pull that we assume you're a lying cheating sneak... and likely a coward.

Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 10:32 AM  

in the west looking someone in the eye is seen as a challenge... as aggression.

Its kinda like that in the South too... except we like it and expect it... and don't think much of you if you don't do it.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 12, 2015 10:36 AM  

@8

"Had the Mexican gambit worked as the EU's gambit has, the potamac would be a river of blood..."

The blood of the patriots of course. At least, in the long run, considering the US military would maintain air superiority without being challenged and likely bomb the shit out of everyone like they like to do in the mid-east.

Anonymous Roundtine November 12, 2015 10:38 AM  

What symbol would we burn as American nationalists? Things would probably have to fall on the traitor/patriot axis. Democrats and open borders/transnationalist Republicans are traitors, but do they have a symbol that speaks to nationalism? Burning a donkey would be seen as political, not nationalist.

Blogger Anthony November 12, 2015 10:41 AM  

"EU macht frei"

As an American with Greek ancestry, I'm disappointed that the person who invented that wasn't of the ancestry of the people who invented rhetoric.

Anonymous Roundtine November 12, 2015 10:45 AM  

There is no issue or shared cultural trait that would inspire Canadians to show the pride and unity that these Poles are showing.

How about our culture and our blood? Americans, Canadians, British, Australians (does New Zealand want out?). We are one people spread around the globe. Awaken the blood.

Blogger Rabbi B November 12, 2015 10:46 AM  

" . . . and shitty beer."

Seconded.

Anonymous Cash November 12, 2015 10:48 AM  

@53

A Mexican flag?

Anonymous Cash November 12, 2015 10:50 AM  

Maybe an amalgamation of the Mexican, American, and Canadian flag?

Blogger Jakeithus November 12, 2015 10:54 AM  

Nate,

Even our shitty beer largely follows regional divides. BC likes Kokanee, Saskatchewan drinks Pilsner, Manitoba has Labatte. The east has their Keiths. Albertans just like to drink, we don't have a regional favourite that stands out in my mind.

Geoff,

I agree. Now that the natural rulers are back in power, things will go back to how they were for much of the last 60 years.

Blogger beerme #0183 November 12, 2015 10:57 AM  

What symbol would we burn as American nationalists?
The flag of the District of Columbia.

Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 11:00 AM  

@ScuzzaMan
Voting Republican Hope and Change

The difference is, they're voting Hope and Change on the off chance it works, but buying ammo in case it probably doesn't.

@Gaiseric
Nice one, @41!
Aw shucks. Twern't nuthin'.

I'm struggling to see the survival of the pluralistic "nation" we have now where a bunch of totalitarians of cultural Yankee extraction are grouped in with the rest of us, though.

In terms of the original question brought up by VD, "Where are the American nationalists?", the Americans are trying to figure out what nation they even belong to, the US as a whole which is growing metaphorically smaller via Internet and easier travel, or the people around them who are like them. Unfortunately, they're not the same thing.

That's partly why I brought up the 10% critical point for an idea to take form - because in order for people to actually take part of an "American" identity, there has to be some part of it that identifies with them.

As it is, what's currently the American identity as perceived by the majority is a melting pot, multiculti "American Exceptionalism" where we're awesome just because we are. And freedom and equality are equal in importance. Which are all nice-sounding things that don't bear up under reality, so when anyone takes a long hard look it's just good feelings with zero substance.

Who would identify with that? Not even SJWs would.

Blogger IM2L844 November 12, 2015 11:01 AM  

@53

The U.N.

Anonymous Cash November 12, 2015 11:02 AM  

@60

Good idea. I am guessing that no one has any idea what it looks like but that can change over night. Too bad that it is based off of Washington's coat of arms though.

Anonymous Death To Dixie November 12, 2015 11:04 AM  

I call it the War of Southern Stupidity.

(Morons fail to understand the correlation of forces, predictably get their asses kicked)

Blogger LonestarWhacko November 12, 2015 11:05 AM  

How vulnerable are European food supplies to disruption? Winter is coming.....who will have the gumption to shut down the food? This whole mess is made worse by an overabundance of food.

Blogger The Other Robot November 12, 2015 11:07 AM  

The Nazis in Berlin are at it again:

Berlin police raid sites in crackdown on speech Merkel doesn't like

Blogger LonestarWhacko November 12, 2015 11:07 AM  

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Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 11:12 AM  

(Morons fail to understand the correlation of forces, predictably get their asses kicked)


as opposed to dumbasses who end up with President Obama... and still think they won something.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 12, 2015 11:15 AM  

I think better questions you guys should be asking is, how patriots, in an open and armed revolt, would deal with all of the fixed and rotary winged aircraft the various branches of the American military would use to maintain unchallenged air superiority and bomb the shit out of us all.

Sure, we have the numbers and the firepower to overwhelm even the most militarized wings of the blue-bloods and there aren't enough infantrymen in the Army and Marines to take us all on, and there are ways of dealing with IFV's/APC's and MBT's (none of them pleasant, but doable), but let's be real here. With air superiority, in the long run, the patriots are the ones who are going to die and die a lot and really, really, badly.

For all the talk here and elsewhere about how an armed revolt would lead to the reds winding up dead, I haven't seen anyone seriously go through the numbers and crunch out plausible, likely, and/or worst case scenarios about what would happen if the full force of Uncle's Sam's war machine was deployed on US soil with the intent of mulching any rebel in its way.

All I've heard is vague statements and stupid shit like Nate's bloviating about the superficial and unimportant differences between Western and Southern cultures, as though people in both were really so shallow that even if their vain differences were that big a deal to them, they couldn't get over it to try and punch the fuck out of Washington once and for all.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 November 12, 2015 11:15 AM  

The White Immunodeficiency Virus (WIV) of multiculturalism is beyond acute infection and clinical latency in the U.S.
We're in full blown Racial Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, or RAIDS.

We're a lot sicker than Europe, but have a much stronger body due to land wealth. There's a possibility of stabilization and recovery if we eliminate mass immigration and increase White racial solidarity.
Trump's ascendancy shows there's at least a pulse.

Given Europe's high White population percentage, I would put most countries at phase 1 of the illness, primary infection (Acute WIV). Of course Europe is more fragile due to population density.

Poland is still around 95% Polish with only a trace of 3rd world blacks and browns, so the patriots are being intelligently proactive.

Whites in Europe and North America had better overcome this deadly illness and develop a much stronger racial immune system because the blacks and browns are breeding like rats and the inevitable economic disasters in their homelands will have them storming the gates.





Blogger Dewave November 12, 2015 11:19 AM  

I call it the War of Southern Stupidity.

(Morons fail to understand the correlation of forces, predictably get their asses kicked)


Neither side understood the nature of the war about to be fought. There were at least 3 plausible opportunities for the South to win by breaking the North's will to continue the conflict.

The South wasn't trying to conquer the North.

Blogger Dewave November 12, 2015 11:23 AM  

I think better questions you guys should be asking is, how patriots, in an open and armed revolt, would deal with all of the fixed and rotary winged aircraft the various branches of the American military would use to maintain unchallenged air superiority and bomb the shit out of us all.

Aircraft like that are largely useless in a 4GW conflict.

They would be useful in a by the numbers revisit of the ACW, but I consider that very unlikely.

Blogger JartStar November 12, 2015 11:24 AM  

@69 Emmanuel Mateo-Morales

So how did our air power due in Afghanistan to win the conflict? How about in Iraq? Who controls that area now?


Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 11:30 AM  

@Emmanuel Mateo-Morales

You're completely missing the moral level of warfare.

Do you honestly think soldiers are soulless robots who have zero connection to their hometowns and families? That they wouldn't at least be *tempted* to desert if it meant killing the people they grew up with, and who are in the right?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:31 AM  

@23 JartStar
Where are the American nationalists?

There won't be any serious nationalists, just secessionists.
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I kind of think this too. I'd be more happy to preserve the South. But I don't give up on the US yet either. Probably nostalgia on my part.

OpenID Jack Amok November 12, 2015 11:34 AM  

Where are the American nationalists?

Me, I'm building my home foundry. By New Years, I should be able to 3D print any prototypes I want and cast them into aluminum at least, perhaps even bronze.

"The hot white girls are Why We Fight."

I disagree. The Why We Fight is White children,


Where do you think White children come from?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:35 AM  

@30 John
Would "Einwanderung macht frei" work as an American adaptation of the meme?
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Since someone would have to stop, google translate the german into english, I'm going to say no.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:36 AM  

@35 Swiggy
You guys are on the wrong side of history
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You won't be saying that after I finish writing history :P

Blogger Unknown November 12, 2015 11:37 AM  

@69: Air superiority was so helpful in Dunkirk and Vietnam and Iraq. Just think how much more helpful it will be here, where every bomb and bullet lands on their own supply chain.

The US forces could fight in Viet Nam and the Middle East because their resupply came from an ocean away, and because their families were an ocean away. If they try fighting in the US, the guy they are shooting at all night will be double charging the powder in their ammunition all day, or crapping in their MREs, or sugaring their gas tanks. The guy they are shooting at all day will be burning their family car and house all night. The families of the people they murder will be spitting on their families in the grocery store.

Air superiority is cool, but it can't take ground and it can't hold it. Ask Ceausescu how valuable air power really is - I'm sure his input would be illuminating.

OpenID Jack Amok November 12, 2015 11:38 AM  

in the west looking someone in the eye is seen as a challenge... as aggression.

Its kinda like that in the South too... except we like it and expect it... and don't think much of you if you don't do it.


Nate, the West was settled by people who grew up as strangers to one another. Also, a lot of the folks who settled the West were more restless than the ones who stayed back east, and didn't much like the crowds anyway (one set of my ancestors headed West because they thought Virginia in the 1790's was too stuffy, and another set thought New Jersey was too damn crowded in 1809).

Those sort of men needed habits to diffuse tensions. Too easy for a challenge between mildly anti-social strangers to take a bad turn real quick.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:39 AM  

@36 ZhukovG
@32. Red Jack

I have lived in various parts of the Western US, mostly Colorado and New Mexico. I would say that if there is native nationalism in the Western States, it is actually several nationalisms based on local cultures. Colorado for instance has a culture on the eastern plains and a very different culture on the Western Slope.

Then there is also the Mormon West, which might become nationalistic due to shared faith.

But at least in my experience I didn't see anything that I could definitely call nationalism among the whites out west.

However, I would welcome correction on this point from those who live out there now.
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The times i've been out west (mostly AZ, won't include CA) I've been asked multiple times in a wierd accent "Are Yew from Taixus?" as if they have no idea there is half a country on the other side of Texas. But I think they are mocking a Texans accent or something :P

Anonymous the raven November 12, 2015 11:40 AM  

Why the needless slur against National Socialism? The Red Army committed worse atrocities against the Poles, than the Germans did. I'm sure these marchers' politics are closer to National Socialism than to any of the today's major political parties. In trying to score rhetorical points they're conceding the Big Lie of the post WW2 order.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:43 AM  

@46 Nate
" I'm 100% serious when I say that hockey is the only thing Canadians have in common that brings any sort of shared passion."

Hockey... and shitty beer.
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Arggghh - you just triggered a memory of Labatts blue - yeck

Blogger ZhukovG November 12, 2015 11:47 AM  

@69. Emmanuel Mateo-Morales

Air operations need targets.

There are, I believe, somewhere between 20 and 30 million scoped hunting rifles in private hand in this country.

How do stop 30 million army's of one?

If the government were foolish enough to order indiscriminant reprisal bombings, morale and discipline in the military would quickly breakdown and they would start losing aircraft to sabotage (FOD damage, mysterious engine trouble etc.).

Also if you start killing the rebel's families, then the military families become a target.

You see where this leads.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:50 AM  

@47 Gaiseric
I like that name. Damn That Lincoln War. Nice one, @41! I usually go for the more traditional War of Northern Aggression, or War of Yankee Tyranny, but Damn That Lincoln has a nice ring to it.
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My grandparents (all in Alabama) referred to it as the War of Northern Aggression. And they were born in the early 1910's where they would have been much closer to the event itself. They would actually use Union officers names as curses. But my one grandfathers ultimate curse was "John Brown". That John Brown Yankee won't be quiet. That John Brown dog got loose from the pen. That John Brown sheriff is giving out speeding tickets.

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But that also indirectly highlights some of the problems we see here. Although I consider myself an ethnic Texan, I consider ethnic Southerners to be my close cousins, and welcome allies. For much of the American West as well, until you get to the Left Coast. I can imagine a pluralistic nation that includes them.

I'm struggling to see the survival of the pluralistic "nation" we have now where a bunch of totalitarians of cultural Yankee extraction are grouped in with the rest of us, though.
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I don't see it either.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 11:50 AM  

What symbol would we burn as American nationalists?

Washington delenda est. Think of how it could pull us all together!

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:54 AM  

@53 Roundtine
What symbol would we burn as American nationalists? Things would probably have to fall on the traitor/patriot axis. Democrats and open borders/transnationalist Republicans are traitors, but do they have a symbol that speaks to nationalism? Burning a donkey would be seen as political, not nationalist.
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UN Flags, Burritos, Mexican flags, Cuckservatives, etc.
I would only go so far as to hang Canadian flags upside down at baseball games, though.

Blogger pyrrhus November 12, 2015 11:54 AM  

The same two Northern groups that started the Civil War, NY bankers (mostly Eskimo) and Yankee totalitarians, are going to start this one too....

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 11:55 AM  

@55 Roundtine
There is no issue or shared cultural trait that would inspire Canadians to show the pride and unity that these Poles are showing.

How about our culture and our blood? Americans, Canadians, British, Australians (does New Zealand want out?). We are one people spread around the globe. Awaken the blood.
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There is something to that. But I haven't figured what it is, or how to harness it.

Blogger Christopher November 12, 2015 12:02 PM  

What banner would/should American nationalists march under? I note that the Poles are using symbols/colors that pre-date the 1848 republican revolutions, and reference kingdoms from the late Middle Ages (?) It seems almost all the euro identitarian movements can harken back to pre egalite, liberte, fraternate tri-colors to more explicitly ethnic-kingdom-province-clan symbols --or all the way back to the Spartan-Greek or Roman symbols.

Anonymous Anonymous November 12, 2015 12:07 PM  

There never has been an American Nation, with the possible exception of the short-lived "Era of Good Feeling," so there haven't been too many American Nationalists. Traditionally, there has been very little marriage across the huge cultural divide represented by the Mason Dixon line since the earliest days of the English colonies in America. North was dominated by the East Anglian roundheads, South was cavalier English (mostly upstart transported criminals) mongrelized with the Scots and Welsh.

TR is the notable exception to the above, having a New York father and a southern belle mother. Plus he ran in 1912 on his philosophy of "New Nationalism", which was merely a more radical version of his old policy of suppression of state power and regional identity in order to create a strong Washington-New York power axis to advance his socialist policies. You could call it "National Socialism."

After the upcoming smoke clears, three or four independent "American Nations" will emerge.

As for the Poles, they've picked up on the "Macht Frei" angle. Hopefully, they're planning their own version of Schikelgruber's "Intelligenzaktion" for die Merkelreich. - Niccolò Arminius

Blogger Danby November 12, 2015 12:08 PM  

Diversity macht frei

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Blogger Danby November 12, 2015 12:17 PM  

@23 JartStar
Where are the American nationalists?
There won't be any serious nationalists, just secessionists.
You say that as if they were different things.

Blogger Carl Philipp November 12, 2015 12:27 PM  

Where are the American nationalists?

Not in the Republican Party; or, cowering in fear of being attacked from all sides. Too many cucks spoil the GOP.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 12:27 PM  

@64 Death To Dixie
I call it the War of Southern Stupidity.

(Morons fail to understand the correlation of forces, predictably get their asses kicked)
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Yeah, crack makes people who are the bastard love child of Venus Flytrap and the Macho Man Randy Savage think things like this.

Blogger CM November 12, 2015 12:29 PM  

What banner would/should American nationalists march under? I note that the Poles are using symbols/colors that pre-date the 1848 republican revolutions[...]

There never has been an American Nation, with the possible exception of the short-lived "Era of Good Feeling," so there haven't been too many American Nationalists.

It would seem to me that American Nationalism would need to transcend ethnic identity... which is radically different than European Nationalism with the sharing of hereditary lines.

While our states in their conception had strong hereditary lines, generations of free movement within our states has watered down the ethnic ties.

There has to be some way of twisting this to citizens first if we want this to be a country-wide rallying cry.

For it to be truly nationalist, breaking down the states against the federal state in a similar way that EU states are breaking away from the EU might be necessary.

Blogger skiballa November 12, 2015 12:29 PM  

@69

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales,

If you're focusing on fighting the aircraft themselves, you're doing it wrong. Others have given most satisfactory responses to the question you posed, so I won't rehash all of that.

From my perspective, there's no need to focus on fighting the aircraft, given the massive logistics tail that is required to keep them in the air. You see the basis of this in some 3rd world countries, they have the craft, and pilots, but they don't/can't fly them, why is that? The answer is logistics, these things require competent maintenance crew, replacement parts, fuel, ammo, and etc.

You should study up on 4GW a little more, there's often no real need for it to fight against targets capable of fighting back.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 12:30 PM  

@69 Emmanuel Mateo-Morales
I think better questions you guys should be asking is, how patriots, in an open and armed revolt, would deal with all of the fixed and rotary winged aircraft the various branches of the American military would use to maintain unchallenged air superiority and bomb the shit out of us all.
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I haven't read the book on 4gw yet. But why not first get them to invade Mexico. Then, while they are doing that, take the whole thing over behind their backs.

Blogger Danby November 12, 2015 12:31 PM  

@96
Wait, Venus Flytrap, as in Tim Reid from WKRP?
WTF?
Or is that my boomerness showing, and there's some other Venus Flytrap.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 12:33 PM  

@70 StrongCoffee61
The White Immunodeficiency Virus (WIV) of multiculturalism is beyond acute infection and clinical latency in the U.S.
We're in full blown Racial Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, or RAIDS.
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It all goes back to the Yankees. They were a bunch of white people that started another war against white people for the benefit of black people. So they will kill lots of white people for their proto-SJW bubble, because reasons. So the whole "white solidarity" thing is a crock, because they were behind this crap a long time ago.

Blogger Anonymous Robot November 12, 2015 12:35 PM  

Diversity macht frei

This is the best one I have seen so far!

Anonymous Laz November 12, 2015 12:36 PM  

"... it's just black, not ethnically Gambian or Zulu or Congolese"

From what I've seen Africans immigrants and African-Americans hate each other.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 12:42 PM  

@90 Christopher
What banner would/should American nationalists march under? I note that the Poles are using symbols/colors that pre-date the 1848 republican revolutions, and reference kingdoms from the late Middle Ages (?) It seems almost all the euro identitarian movements can harken back to pre egalite, liberte, fraternate tri-colors to more explicitly ethnic-kingdom-province-clan symbols --or all the way back to the Spartan-Greek or Roman symbols.
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Or, how about a Confederate Flag? Everyone now sees it as a symbol against the new tyranny.

Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 12:43 PM  

@Were-Puppy
It all goes back to the Yankees. They were a bunch of white people that started another war against white people for the benefit of black people.

Um... I'm pretty sure they did it for other reasons, slavery was just the public official reason.

@Laz
From what I've seen Africans immigrants and African-Americans hate each other.

I've heard of that too. They also look *quite* different now, too.

There's not that animosity for all of the American whites and European immigrants, but on the other hand I bet there's probably a genetic difference as well, just like American blacks and African immigrants.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 12:44 PM  

@100 Danby
@96
Wait, Venus Flytrap, as in Tim Reid from WKRP?
WTF?
Or is that my boomerness showing, and there's some other Venus Flytrap.
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Nope that's him. Imagine how such a person would look if they were a mix of the two, and that's what I imagine that poster looked like.

Anonymous Anonymous November 12, 2015 12:46 PM  

Re: National Symbols
The flag I fly daily in front of my house is the Texas flag. On holidays where the American flag is appropriate, like Vets Day, I fly the Grand Union Flag. Even though I am a tri-racial Hispanic, it expresses my primary ethnic identity perfectly. - Niccolò Arminius

Blogger skiballa November 12, 2015 12:46 PM  

@101

Were-puppy, as a dirty Yankee, I think they used that as a convenient excuse, certainly there were many true believers, but that was never the primary motivation.

@103 That's Africans in general, not specific to immigrants, they view them as spoiled, lazy complainers.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 12:46 PM  

@105 Student in Blue
@Were-Puppy
It all goes back to the Yankees. They were a bunch of white people that started another war against white people for the benefit of black people.

Um... I'm pretty sure they did it for other reasons, slavery was just the public official reason.
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That was rhetoric :P

Blogger Red Jack November 12, 2015 12:53 PM  

@80
You nailed it. Nate has a good point. When I first went to Texas, I got into some fights that the other guy probably had no idea why I was taking offense. Took me a bit to understand things are just different. You make eye contact and start an argument in say, Western Nebraska, you are asking for a war. Heck, you are a farmer and start talking to a rancher, you are edging in to fight at times.

I am not saying that the urge to fight is stronger in the West than the South. To be honest, I think it is stronger in the South. But that it seems the path from a friendly game of fists to burning your house down seems to be shorter in the plains.

As for the different groups in the West, good point. I haven't thought of it that way, but it is true. However, there is more of a "us vs them" when someone from the coasts walk in. In that old book about the North American nations, the West was called "The Empty lands" if I remember right, because the author had no idea of how to fit them in anywhere.

Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 12:58 PM  

@Were-Puppy
Rhetoric that looked like dialectic, eh?

You scurrilous rapscallion.

I dunno why but it's far, far easier for me to tell when VD is using rhetoric. Probably because he just clobbers people with it.

Blogger Mindstorm November 12, 2015 1:06 PM  

@82 raven
Factually incorrect. Before the end of WWII it were Germans in the lead, if it comes to oppressing Poles. It wasn't expedient for Soviets to 'make a statement' who's the boss, if there were auxiliary Polish military units watching the spectacle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Polish_Army_(1944%E2%80%9345)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Army_(Poland)

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 1:06 PM  

I am not saying that the urge to fight is stronger in the West than the South. To be honest, I think it is stronger in the South. But that it seems the path from a friendly game of fists to burning your house down seems to be shorter in the plains.

In Texas, at least, the urge to fight is forged into the national identity. After the Texas Revolution, Mexico was all passive aggressive about having lost, and they maintained a policy of raiding and shoot on sight (which was reciprocated) against the Texans until Texas joined the Union and the US, with the help of the Texas Rangers, whipped em good in the Mexican-American War of '46-48. But the Mexicans weren't even the real problem; the real problem was the Comancheria. Living in that kind of hyper-K-selected environment, the Texans got to make fast friends with their neighbors, but they also developed the ability to go from 0 to 60 when it comes to violence in no time flat.

Although significantly watered down now, there's still a strain of that culturo-ethnic personality in the natives of Texas.

And I guess Nate probably has a point, and as an honest-to-goodness Southerner, he probably knows best. As a Texan myself, which was always on the fulcrum between the South and the West, we've always identified as close allies with both regions anyway.

Anonymous Laz November 12, 2015 1:12 PM  

@108 "... they view them as spoiled, lazy complainers."

Doesn't everyone?

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 12, 2015 1:13 PM  

This is both for white women and children.

What is the latest stat? White women are only 2% of the world population (or is that birth age women?)?

Time to flood whitey land with muslim asylum seekers for the genocide win.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 12, 2015 1:15 PM  

@113

"we've always identified as close allies with both regions anyway."

We are the black sheep of the Southron Family.

Blogger Red Jack November 12, 2015 1:17 PM  

As a wild card (its Friday for me, Deer season starts back Home this weekend), where does the Midwest fall? I now live in Iowa. We used to have a joke about not trusting anyone from out east, like Des Moines. When I moved out here, I understood it. Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, etc are different. For me, it has been like living with a burr in my shoe. Not horrible, but wrong. Hard to pin down, but back home there was just a type of code of conduct that was understood. My friend calls it "How to survive in a small town", but it is more than that. You don't have to like the person, but there was a set of roles you both knew to play. The "No eye contact if you are arguing" was one of it.

In Texas, once I got a slight feel for how they do it down there, I at least understood that the roles were there, but different. Here in Iowa, it is like there is a number of soulless wandering around. They walk, talk, and move around, but there is something just not there. I've seen the same thing in much of the I80 corridor. Not full SJW madness, that is here but this isn't what I am talking about. If there was a hypothetical partition, I am not sure where these ares go into.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 12, 2015 1:19 PM  

I think better questions you guys should be asking is, how patriots, in an open and armed revolt, would deal with all of the fixed and rotary winged aircraft the various branches of the American military would use to maintain unchallenged air superiority and bomb the shit out of us all

@69 Emanual-How many times does a faggot have to be the one to explain you don't fight the tank you fight the tanks gas tank?
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/10/one-hundred-heads.html


If not, that's a lot of fertilizer. Right, Viidad?

We are assured that there are ovens capable of handling that many.

It's ironic, really. I don't think whites would have coalesced around nationalism if they weren't even mashed together to form "black vs white"

During Katrina those that went to the dome instinctively gathered together for protection but one of them wrote a book calling his protectors racist & made excuses for the child rapers.
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2015/08/to-be-white-person-in-superdome-in-new.html

where EU leaders will be asking African nations for legal Africans immigrants – and will pay for them.

We paid for the Boston marathon moslems to come to the US along with Somali moslems.

I would say that if there is native nationalism in the Western States, it is actually several nationalisms based on local cultures.

White culture varies from state to state but blacks everywhere are the same.

Blogger Red Jack November 12, 2015 1:20 PM  

@113
Gaiseric, I wonder if it is because the Commache were an active force for much longer in Texas than in say, Wyoming. Once the Indian wars got rolling after the Civil War, it got settled rather finally. In Texas, there was a hundred years more of contact.

Blogger skiballa November 12, 2015 1:24 PM  

@114

Laz, I suppose so, the difference is they could be more open about it without drawing negative attention to themselves. My experience with the interaction of both parties is from my time in the US Army. Seeing actual Africans treat African Americans like they did was informative to say the least.

Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 1:26 PM  

@Red Jack

Which demarcation are you putting down between "West" and "Midwest"?

Anonymous A Visitor November 12, 2015 1:28 PM  

I saw it on Breitbart the other day. I love it, especially EU macht frei.

I think people forget the Poles are hardier than one may expect.

"The hot white girls are Why We Fight." @7 Fighting for worthy women is a noble cause.

@8 I'd add people like Ann Barnhardt and Fr. Z to the list, and Trump himself.

Knowing several persons with whom I went to grad school with that are in FedGov (they got in, I did not), they're too far down the food chain to change anything. Give it time though.

"Obamer tried to pull an invasion with his Mexican gambit and has, so far, failed to get the numbers he wanted. So, the Americans are still working within the political system without resorting to violence. Had the Mexican gambit worked as the EU's gambit has, the potamac would be a river of blood."

At a minimum we'd be seeing microagressions that would make most people in academia, the MSM, college students, and SJWs faint, kinda like this.

"As Leftist over-reach continues, somehow blissfully unaware of what they're starting to wake up, Americans are getting more and more irritated at them. There's very little patience left in much of America already."

@10 As horrible as Dear Leader occupying the office of POTUS has been, my belief is that it may have caused those on the fence to join our side this time 'round. I say that because they see what happens when affirmative action happens at the highest levels of government and when the Left gets part of what it truly wants.

"The Why We Fight is White children, present and future."

@13 I fight for myself. If and when I get married, the Mrs. and I will be raising an army. Having said that, this isn't a slight against you but I am so damn sick and tired of the children meme bs. The Left has beat that horse to death. The next time someone says that IRL, I'll simply retort, "Yeah? I don't ****ing care." We'll see how they react.

"It's hard to be optimistic about a political awakening for America men. The younger generation was marinated in Marxist anti-white propaganda and the baby boomers were bought off with free love, pensions and early retirement."

@14 Take the long view, brah. This fighting against the Left, PC, and SJWs will be generational. Having been an a right wing activist in undegrad (05-09) most students are apathetic and will actually support whatever cause they see. I mean, look at the elites. They're even starting to backpedal on the, "We can't deport [realistic estimate 40-50 million] illegal [aliens] and break up families nonesense." They sense truly that the segment of the American populace that matters is pissed and had enough. It's like a robber or rapist who is dying and is a) begging for mercy so he doesn't get the coup de grâce while simultaneously b) reaching for a hidden knife as a final FU to the person who defended themselves. Finally, remember how few wanted to secede from the Crown in 1776? The vast majority of average American males probably won't be interested in much beyond sports, porn, and getting laid. It's our job (those of us here on this blog) to lead them in the direction IRL. Some will get it, some won't. Many pixels have been spilled here about how the Ilk (regardless of economic class, occupation, etc.) is just better read and better in tune than the rest of society. Do your best in real life, leave the rest up to God.

Anonymous A Visitor November 12, 2015 1:29 PM  

Personally having been around the world and having lived outside the U.S., yeah, things suck here at home but there's no place I'd rather be. My personal opinion is aggregately speaking, we still have it better than the rest of the world. That doesn't mean we should be content, though, obviously.

Two things to keep in mind: the meat of a homily the pastor at my parish gave weeks ago. He basically described a guy in Hell, given his choice of eternal punishment: behind door #1 there were people standing on their heads on a concrete floor. He thought, "I can't do that." Behind door #2 there were people doing the same thing on a wooden floor and he had the same thought. Finally, behind door #3 he saw people standing waist deep in horse manure sipping coffee and elected to do that. Five minutes later (I can't remember if it was satan or one of his minions) came in and said, "Coffee break's over!" Everyone went back to door #1 or #2. Our pastor ended the homily saying, "There is no coffee break in fighting evil."

Remember the words of Samuel Adams, "It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."

Don't get me wrong, I get it, u tired bro. We all get like that some times, especially with a half SJW in my family, trust me, I get tired. I get it too, you're worried about how long this is going to go on (the anti-white, SJW, Leftist bs) and how bad it'll get when things explode. Keep on fighting, though.

@17 Given your nom de plum and a few grammatical errors, I assume you're a Pole. Thanks for the on the ground info. Don't worry about the undercounting of protestors. The media does the same thing here. I'm just glad you guys are making your voices heard. It's truly heartening brother.

@25 Agreed how we're bigger and how we've got the melting pot thing going on since the early 20th Century (thank you Emma Lazarus, you ****!). Case in point, a couple years ago (2009, 2010 maybe) having a debate with my aunt who's a law prof. I argued how we need fewer immigrants in the U.S. and she retorts with the melting pot. I retorted with not all cheese melts as well as others. Her son, my cousin, got a laugh outta that.

@29 If only my ancestors went back that far...mid 19th century, through and through except my dad's mom's side, here just in time for the war of 1812 or right after, heh.

Anonymous A Visitor November 12, 2015 1:29 PM  

@35 To quote Agent Smecker, "Oh really? I might just be wanting a bagel with my coffee [Greenly]."

@37 Tío, tienes razón. La UE es más grande con respeto a la poblacíon que nostoros. Sin embargo, todavía tenéis sus propios países, culturas, etc. Podéis darele a EU con queso cada país. ¡Viva España! (también ;) ).

@46 Canadian beer ain't bad. On the hockey note, they gave the Pens Sid the Kid.

@48 Looked at the linked. What. the. hell? They're comparing American college administrations to ISIS. Let's drop her off in Raqqa, get her back three weeks later (if we can), then drop her off at a Big 10 or Big East school of our choosing and see what she says. Nah, screw it, just leave her in Raqqa.

@50 One of the things I love about your Southerns is how hospitable you are. Personally, can't stand the damn frigidity of East Coasters (no offense to any of the Ilk from there). When I got to Texas for grad school, thought to myself, "This is gonna be a fun two years!" With the little time I had outside of class and studying, it was.

@53 The rainbow flag? Before homos took it over, it used to be a symbol of multicult bs. For some, it still is.

@57 Not a bad idea.

@60 Good one!

@69 What about what happened in Afghanistan with that breach that destroyed those eight Harriers? What about contractors who service the systems who wouldn't stand for those aircraft being used possibly against their own families? What about the pilots who wouldn't obey the orders or, better yet, destroy the aircraft used by pilots who would? I don't think it'd be much of an issue as you think it would be.

@82 Hmmm.... I don't know, maybe because they pretty much destroyed Warsaw among other atrocities. The 3rd Reich were douches and deserved what they got.

@87 Homer Simpson voice, "Mmm..burritos."

@104 Not Southern but no problem marching under the Stars and Bars whatsoever. Plan to buy one with my first paycheck of my new job just to piss people off.

@113 The one thing I disagree with is the 51% law.

@117 Starts on Saturday for me but heading out tomorrow. Good luck!

Can't comment on Indiana for obvious reasons; Illinois, if they didn't have Chicago they'd be as right wing as us; Minnesota don't even get me started and Wisconsin, well (to quote a buddy who did three tours in Iraq and is from WI), "We have winter 9 months of the year up there, so all we do is drink." Heh. I will say this about Indiana: if you don't look us in the eye while talking, you're a jackass.

Blogger Student in Blue November 12, 2015 1:31 PM  

@Red Jack

Nevermind, I just saw your post stating the same thing.

Where I live in Illinois, it's more stare into eyes, but it's not clearcut. Not sure if it's because Southern Illinois basically *wanted* to secede as well with everyone else or what.

Blogger ZhukovG November 12, 2015 1:34 PM  

@118. BigGaySteve

Clearly you have not met many rural Southern Blacks. But urban Blacks, yes, they seem to be quite similar at least in cities I've visited.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 1:42 PM  

@119: Yes, Texans had to live with the Comancheria longer than almost anyone else in the Anglosphere.

Here's an old post on the topic I made a while ago, although I'm quoting mostly an email my dad sent to me. http://darkheritage.blogspot.com/2010/08/texas-rangers.html

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau November 12, 2015 1:45 PM  

How about our culture and our blood? Americans, Canadians, British, Australians (does New Zealand want out?). We are one people spread around the globe. Awaken the blood.

Orwell's Oceanics.

Blogger Hammerli280 November 12, 2015 1:46 PM  

Actually, I think there IS an American national culture. But one of its characteristics is that we're like a large family...there are members we don't particularly like. We'll help them in a crisis because they are kin, but don't particularly like them otherwise.

Though the snotty twits from the I-95 and I-5 Axes of Evil do push my tolerance to the limits...

Blogger Salt November 12, 2015 1:57 PM  

Or, how about a Confederate Flag? Everyone now sees it as a symbol against the new tyranny.

How does one reconcile the Gadsden flag with the Stars and Stripes?

Anonymous A.B. Prosper November 12, 2015 1:59 PM  

To what JartStar said, US nationalists are in a bit of a pickle compared to European ones. We don't have agreeable victory conditions.

In Poland or even Germany or the UK "EU and Foreign Scum out" is a clear goal that can be pretty easily achieved and it doesn't matter which party, Left, Right whatever achieves it. Everything else is just day to day politics

In the US we have no agreed upon victory conditions, can't decide who ought to live here and can't figure out a way to split the Union without too much bloodshed

Our factions include ethnic separatists (White, Black and Hispanic, American Indian and maybe Asian too) Christian Nation people (several different mutually exclusive groups) Minarchist/Constituionalists (like Vanderbough at Sipsey Street) State Rights people, Traditionalists Leftists and more.

Its very hard for these groups to agree on mutual rule and the obvious solution, dissolution in not only going to be bloody, my guess being ten years of starvation, mass murder and atrocity but is philosophically unacceptable for to many people as of yet.

So we wait, arm up train and harden our hearts hoping for a velvet divorce or a collapse.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 2:08 PM  

@130: http://www.gadsden.info/i/clipart/tread-confederate-6000.png

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 2:08 PM  

Although I'd prefer Washington delenda est as the text instead of Don't Tread on Me.

OpenID herenvardo November 12, 2015 2:15 PM  

Heh! They were allowing comments on that article this morning. Now they've magically disappeared! I couldn't see ANY pro-migrant comments at all.

Narrative, people, narrative.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 12, 2015 2:25 PM  

@134

Yes, get with the program, shitlords

Blogger David-093 November 12, 2015 2:27 PM  

How about DC delenda est, to go along with EU macht frei.

Anonymous Anonymous November 12, 2015 2:27 PM  

Gaiseric, pretty good write up on the Rangers. My ancestors were Rangers under Austin (prior to Independence) and later in the Revolution and the Republic, including the Meir (black bean) Expedition. And several served in Jack Hays' Ranger regiment in Mexico. The author is right on about why Texans traditionally skip the fist fight stage of the altercation and advance straight to the draw.

The miniscule quibble is that Lamar was actually a patriot and opposed annexation by the USA. One of the chief reasons statehood forces won was the false idea that the USA would actively defend Texas' southern border. They built a few forts and, at first, manned them with....infantry. The last Ranger invasion of Mexico was by MacNelly's Rangers in the 1870s. - Niccolò Arminius

Anonymous patrick kelly November 12, 2015 2:36 PM  

@23 "Where are the American nationalists?......There won't be any serious nationalists, just secessionists.

As a Micksican Texas Nationalist I can be both.

Anonymous redsash November 12, 2015 2:49 PM  

Maybe the burning Buddhists had it right. To show our loathing of this Mexican invasion we should set alight Chihuahuas. I hate those damn yappy dog/rats anyway.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 2:54 PM  

@137: Lamar's presidency was certainly characterized by his opposition to it. But as Texas' economic fortunes declined, and Lamar was unable to secure the loans and mediation for formal recognition from Mexico—the lack of which kept trade and settlement from expanding—it was clear that Texas' independence was not sustainable without a change, and talk of annexation flared up again.

But yeah; the author's approach is kinda handwavey about the details there.

Anonymous redsash November 12, 2015 2:59 PM  

This would prove to the doubters that we WASPs are willing to kill anything anywhere anytime.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 12, 2015 3:07 PM  

They're nationalists... there just is no american nation.

That was my thought. Except for Texas, and maybe the South wherever you draw the borders of that, there really isn't such a thing as American nationalism. Never has been, as far as I know. Europeans have actual nations with well-defined borders that have been around for a long time. They just have to get nationalism back out of storage.

But if you live in Illinois, what's your "nationalism" look like? It's certainly not based on Illinois; that's just a territory that was carved out for the purpose of joining the US. The farmers in the middle of the state hate the Chicagoans who run things and tell jokes about the inbred yokels in the southern part of the state. People wave flags and use bumper stickers in honor of their schools and sports teams, not the state.

So could we be nationalistic for the whole country? I don't see that happening. It's too big and too diverse -- not even counting modern racial diversity. People on opposite sides of the Rockies, or the Mississippi, or the Appalachians, or the Mason-Dixon line, have never felt much of a bond with each other, if not outright dislike.

So I really can't picture an "American nationalism." I can picture Americans banding together -- probably to fight their own government -- but it would be based on religion, family and other local bonds, not anything as large as a state, let alone the country. I guess that means we'll have to carve out new nations to be nationalistic about.

Anonymous Geoff November 12, 2015 3:25 PM  

The lack of American nationalism makes it all the more likely that the USA will break into pieces. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

But it's going to be ugly. VD called it a long time ago that the European countries, which are indeed "nations", will deal with this much more smoothly and swiftly than the USA.

Blogger Red Jack November 12, 2015 3:31 PM  

@121 For me, a useful definition between "West Middle" and "East Middle" has been I35. Western Iowa is much more similar to what I know as "normal" than eastern Iowa. Even rural areas are just a bit different in the values, goals, and purpose in government.

Case in point. Growing up, most of snow removal on rural roads was done by the farmers. The township maintainer would get the big roads, but the majority of the side roads were at least one lane open by the time he got to it. The expectation was that if you needed to get to town that day, you either stayed over night in town before the storm (pregnant ladies, older folk that had doctor's appointments, ect), or you got your but up and started digging. Or as my late grandfather did, just start driving and see how far you got.

Here the expectation is the state or county has to dig you out. You can maybe get your lane, but beyond that it is up to the government to get you out. There were farmers complaining a few years back that they couldn't get into town for a week. Back home that would have been handled by day 2 at latest once the beer ran out.

Blogger ncartist November 12, 2015 3:34 PM  

@68. Nate
(Morons fail to understand the correlation of forces, predictably get their asses kicked)
as opposed to dumbasses who end up with President Obama... and still think they won something.


Same party: Democratic Party.

Blogger ncartist November 12, 2015 3:48 PM  

@72. Dewave
Aircraft like that are largely useless in a 4GW conflict.

The belief in the effectiveness in 4GW is idolatry: I have yet to come across anyone posting here who understands that from Vietnam to Iraq and Afghanistan, the wars were proxy wars funded, armed, and trained by external governments: the Viet Cong were North Vietnamese regular troops brought south in 1959; the Afghanistan soldiers of the 1980s, the Mujaheddin (sp?) as was Al Quieda were created and funded under Carter, and were continued under Reagan; Al Quieda continues to be run out of Washington; the Arab Spring was an Obama initiative; and ISIS is the next but not last creation of Washington DC.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau November 12, 2015 3:49 PM  

For awhile from around 1916-1972, the draft brought people from all over the country together to serve in the military and that produced a form of American nationalism. That 'green unity' is not seen today.

Blogger rcocean November 12, 2015 3:51 PM  

"as the false idea that the USA would actively defend Texas' southern border."

The USA did defend Texas' south border - its what started the US-Mexican war. And after the war, Mexico gave up its claim to Texas.

Blogger rcocean November 12, 2015 3:53 PM  

I think the worst thing that ever happened was the USA letting Texas come in as a state. We should have told the Brits - you want them - you got them. Its quite possible if they'd been independent, LA and Arkansas instead of joining the CSA, would've simply joined Texas. And since the whole Southwest would've stayed out of the Civil war.

Blogger rcocean November 12, 2015 3:55 PM  

BTW, the other tragedy is that Texas as part of their agreement to come into the USA, didn't insist on a written pledge of the right to secede. of course, if they had no one would've fought the Mexican war for them.

Anonymous Full-Fledged Fiasco November 12, 2015 3:57 PM  

This thread is hilarious.

"Where are the American nationalists?"

If you want to see any significant revolt, then look at Europe. And ONLY Europe.

Muricans won't do jack shit.

Anonymous Anonymous November 12, 2015 4:23 PM  

@148; The USA has NEVER defended the Texas border to any great extent. Polk sent Taylor into the Nueces Strip to provoke war, not patrol the border. After losing the war, Mexico dropped their claim and the official Mexican Army stopped raiding, but the US did nothing to actually secure the border and stop the repeated cross border raiding by Mexican irregulars and renegades which continued until the 20th century. This was one of the reasons floated for Texans to support the secession referendum in 1861. - Niccolò Arminius

Anonymous Anonymous November 12, 2015 4:30 PM  

@149; According to W.T. Sherman writing from Louisiana at the time, the north would only decide to fight if states on both sides of the lower Mississippi decided to secede. Having both banks of the river that served as the outlet for 2/3rds of the North's produce and products in foreign hands was the actual reason Lincoln decided to provoke war, according to Sherman. - Niccolò Arminius

Anonymous Laz November 12, 2015 4:35 PM  

@ 146. ncartist:"...the Arab Spring was an Obama initiative..."

I remember them talking about it when Bush was in office. Obama just continued the policy.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 4:36 PM  

Sherman was right. There's plenty of documentary evidence to suggest that attempting to militarily coerce trade to stay with the north rather than fall into the hands of the south, which would have been ruinous to the big business cronies ushered in by Lincoln and his party, was the real motivating factor behind the "Civil" War.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 4:38 PM  

Although doesn't this thread just exactly highlight the difficulties involved here? The only real expressions of American nationalism that have cropped up are Texan nationalism and Southern nationalism—which is as hostile to Yankee nationalism as it is to anything else, including La Raza and the decades long acts of war perpetrated against us by Mexico.

Anonymous A Visitor November 12, 2015 4:46 PM  

@152

" Polk sent Taylor into the Nueces Strip to provoke war, not patrol the border."

The Río Grande was the border of the Republic of Texas' at that time. For ten years before the U.S. annexed Texas, Mexico never did anything substantive. If the Río Grande weren't the border, why didn't the Mexicans seize that area up to the Nueces? They could've. They didn't. That says something.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 12, 2015 5:03 PM  

If you want to see any significant revolt, then look at Europe. And ONLY Europe.

It's a different scenario. The French, once aroused, will fight to defend France (or Poles to defend Poland, etc.) against the EU and external enemies, as they have several times in their history. As nations, they have an extra-national enemy to fight.

Americans, once aroused, will fight to defend.....what.....against whom? If you call the US a nation, then we're all supposed to band together under the US flag to fight....whom? The UN? We already fund the thing. If we had the gumption to fight it, the fighting part wouldn't be necessary; we'd just shut it down. The UN isn't doing any of this to us anyway; our own government and elites are.

So maybe we fight as citizens against USGov, but then we're not fighting as "America" in the same way that Poles can fight for Poland, are we? We'd be fighting within our borders, not on them. So it already has a very different flavor. We'd have to have a big meeting to figure out what flag to carry and what anthems to sing; do you think European nationalists have to do that?

I'm not saying it won't happen; I think it will, and sooner than I used to think. I just don't think it'll look very much like "nationalism," because that won't be what we'll be fighting for, except in an abstract sense for the future.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 5:15 PM  

@111 Student in Blue
@Were-Puppy
Rhetoric that looked like dialectic, eh?

You scurrilous rapscallion.

I dunno why but it's far, far easier for me to tell when VD is using rhetoric. Probably because he just clobbers people with it.
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I don't claim to be good at it, but I am most of the time practicing it here.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 5:23 PM  

@113 Gaiseric
And I guess Nate probably has a point, and as an honest-to-goodness Southerner, he probably knows best. As a Texan myself, which was always on the fulcrum between the South and the West, we've always identified as close allies with both regions anyway.
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I always remember, Texas did join the confederacy during the civil war.

Blogger LP999/S.I.G. Burnin' Up! November 12, 2015 5:24 PM  

These beautiful young people want a future not to cover their heads and be all screwed up on a false religion.

God save the beautiful!

What do our young march for in post moronamerica? Just today or this week some nonsense about free edu and debt forgiveness not freedom, liberty or a future.

Carry on Poland, salute the dead, throw the fight!

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 5:26 PM  

@116 Conan the Cimmerian
We are the black sheep of the Southron Family.
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Where does this word Southron come from? Never saw it until coming to this website.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 5:29 PM  

@117 Red Jack
Here in Iowa, it is like there is a number of soulless wandering around. They walk, talk, and move around, but there is something just not there. I've seen the same thing in much of the I80 corridor. Not full SJW madness, that is here but this isn't what I am talking about.
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I saw something like that in northern Arkansas and southern Missouri. No idea what it's called, but it was very odd for me as well.

Blogger HalibetLector November 12, 2015 5:34 PM  

@Cail You're right, it won't look like "nationalism" at first. It'll look like a race war. Which is pretty much what it looks like in Europe, too. The invocation of "nationalism" is validation that they're morally justified in committing genocide to keep their race from being wiped out. That's what "white nationalism" in the US is about as well, just with a broader context. It's about keeping a wide variety of racial groups with white skin from being wiped out.

Anonymous Athor Pel November 12, 2015 5:55 PM  

"146. ncartist November 12, 2015 3:48 PM

@72. Dewave
Aircraft like that are largely useless in a 4GW conflict.

The belief in the effectiveness in 4GW is idolatry: I have yet to come across anyone posting here who understands that from Vietnam to Iraq and Afghanistan, the wars were proxy wars funded, armed, and trained by external governments: the Viet Cong were North Vietnamese regular troops brought south in 1959; the Afghanistan soldiers of the 1980s, the Mujaheddin (sp?) as was Al Quieda were created and funded under Carter, and were continued under Reagan; Al Quieda continues to be run out of Washington; the Arab Spring was an Obama initiative; and ISIS is the next but not last creation of Washington DC.
"



Yes, you're telling us what we already know. Congratulations.

Now, think things through for just a bit. Here, I'll help. Who are the US fedgov's prime nation state competitors? China and Russia.

Next, how many folks in the US also see the US fedgov as a hindrance to living their lives in peace and as they see fit if not as an actual existential threat? Which colored list do you think you're on merely because you comment here?

Don't you think Russia and China would be spending money, time and effort to foster that domestic resistance? I think they're already doing it.

The worse things get economically the more bold the US fedgov's enemies will become in stirring things up in the continental US. It's in Russia and China's interest to foster domestic resistance in the US. The closer they get to military confrontation with the US fedgov the more they will step up their efforts. And if they don't they're stupid.

Nation states aren't the only actors here but do you honestly think any group will turn down help just because it's from Russia or China? There will come a day when the strings that come attached to that help will sit lightly while the evil it will help avert will be deadly.

Don't think it could happen on US soil? Does objective reality stop at the American border? Are Americans some different species other than plain old human? American exceptionalism is a lie. Everything the US fedgov has done to the world can be done to the US fedgov. The sorry fact is that most of the things that will hurt the fedgov will hurt or kill a great many Americans.

Pray you aren't in the path of destruction.

Blogger Christopher November 12, 2015 5:57 PM  

More on flags, and a favor to ask.

Did anyone see the Norway-Hungary Euro game today? Was I imagining it or something or were there ostensible Norway fans behind one of the goals waving single striped Norwegian flags, i.e. just the long blue bar down the horizontal as contrasted to the full Christian cross?

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis November 12, 2015 6:06 PM  

@ 158

Honestly I think that's splitting hairs. In both instances you would have the common folk rebelling against the elite are leading them down a road they do not want to go. The only difference I see is that the US government is legitimate and the EU is not. What I mean by legitimacy is in regards to constitutionally justified and our constitution established by fair and open means. The US government, as far as the constitution is concerned, is legitimate. Please note that I am not arguing that all the organs of the government are constitutionally legitimate only that congress, the courts and the executive office via the presidency and perhaps a select few federal agencies/organizations are. The EU is the exact opposite. They failed to establish a constitution by the very guidelines they established so they instead forced it on the people of Europe via a treat.

Now, the end game, that is going to be the real difference. We can guess what the end game in Europe is going to be and what is going to happen, the EU may or may not exist but Poland will still be there, so will Germany, Spain, France etc. Across the pond is a whole different story, we don' know if the US, as the political entity it exists as, or even the nation of America will still be around.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 6:10 PM  

@130 Salt
Or, how about a Confederate Flag? Everyone now sees it as a symbol against the new tyranny.

How does one reconcile the Gadsden flag with the Stars and Stripes?
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Not trying to reconcile them. But we've all been tread on at this point. Maybe if they changed it to "Stop Treading On Me".

Blogger The Aardvark November 12, 2015 6:22 PM  

"Where are the American nationalists?" - Vox

Whinging on Facebook, thinking they are accomplishing something.

Blogger Joe A. November 12, 2015 6:25 PM  

This is deeply encouraging. I want to see it spread like wildfire throughout Europe... especially the western portion.

Blogger ncartist November 12, 2015 6:53 PM  

@ 162. Were-Puppy
Where does this word Southron come from? Never saw it until coming to this website.
The the best I can figure is that a Southron is to the south as a Piney is to the Pine Barrens of southern New Jersey: Many are hidden away in shacks in the woods hoping that all the north Jersians would go back north and let them reclaim the Barrens.

Blogger Julie Dyal November 12, 2015 7:13 PM  

Where does this word Southron come from? Never saw it until coming to this website.

Lord of the Rings. I never heard it applied to people of the South (of the US) until I came here, but Tolkien used it all the time to refer to people from South of Gondor.

Blogger Julie Dyal November 12, 2015 7:13 PM  

Not suggesting that Tolkien invented the word, of course. It was just archaic and out of use until her re-popularized it somewhat.

Blogger Feather Blade November 12, 2015 7:17 PM  

@28 The plan is to send failed asylum seekers home (ones who have no lawful reason to stay), and replace them with “skilled” immigration from African countries.

European powers are negotiating with African leaders to buy skilled African workers, and take them out of Africa to work in Europe? Isn't there a word for that... just on the tip of my tongue...

@105 Um... I'm pretty sure they did it for other reasons, slavery was just the public official reason.

Would it help explain things to know that the northern states were settled mostly by the English and the southern states were settled mostly by Scots and Irish?

Blogger Clint November 12, 2015 7:19 PM  

It is amazing what one can find with that new invention "Google."

Southron

OpenID joeholocaust November 12, 2015 7:20 PM  

@46 46. Blogger Nate November 12, 2015 10:10 AM
" I'm 100% serious when I say that hockey is the only thing Canadians have in common that brings any sort of shared passion."

Hockey... and shitty beer.


Well, now that all of our big brewers have been taken over by Americans I agree with you. I differ from many (most?) Canadians in not giving a damn about hockey of the NHL flavour. It has become another jew-controlled racket full of matchfixing for gambling insiders. It's just niggerball with skates and a puck.

Blogger chris November 12, 2015 7:22 PM  

As a Kiwi, I want the British Empire back. Yarpies and Indians included. We can use the Dutch Reformed to convert the Hindus, and we can take over Pakistan when the Saudis run out of money, Which is fairly soon.
It would require an army that will hang morons without caring about their creed. But the Brits have always had that.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 7:39 PM  

Would it help explain things to know that the northern states were settled mostly by the English and the southern states were settled mostly by Scots and Irish?

The Yankees were mostly English Puritans from East Anglia, and Quakers from the Midlands. The South was mostly bankrupt or younger sons of cavaliers from the South of England, as well as the southern England yeomen and indentured servants who worked with them in England.

The backcountry, Appalachia and the frontier were settled by the northern English with some Scottish and Scots-Irish. They actually straddled, in many cases, the Mason Dixon Line, and many of them fought on both sides of the "Civil" War, depending on which they perceived as the greater threat to their freedom and independence; Yankee proto-totalitarians, or elitist Southern plantation owners. In most respects, its only in the years since the "Civil" War, when it became obvious that the North was the only real threat to freedom, that Appalachia sided permanently with the Deep South.

Anonymous hungrytales November 12, 2015 7:40 PM  

@17: Bies, you swung the rhetorical pendulum too strongly in the opposite direction making it all look a little bit too well-behaved than it really was. I know what you meant. It was 'quiet' because this year there was no government provocateurs. The police kept its rabid dogs on a short leash, they know which side their bread is buttered and who's gonna dispense the butter in no more than 2 days. So it was 'quiet', but I saw people carrying big, audacious banners with slogans like DEATH TO ENEMIES OF THE MOTHERLAND.

Yeah, that's more like it. 8 bloody years of licking German and Russkies' asses. 8 damnable years of rule by the inexpungible remnants of the old soviet regime. Those pathetic lackeys and cowards. Enough is enough. We Poles endured more than any other great European nation. Over a hundred years without a state, crushed during WW2 between two totalitarianisms, with our capital nearly eradicated, our borders re-drawn, our populace expelled and mass deported and then over 40 years as a soviet colony. And we're still here. We are a resilient bunch and what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

Of our two nemeses Germans are at the weakest since their unification. If not for propping up by the outside forces I would say almost on the verge to collapse (which actually would mean going back to their historically natural status of mini-states). Russians are on the rise but they spread themselves thin and they're still weaker than they would like to appear. And they're counterbalanced by the Chinese. There has never been as good a time and as good a path to greatness for Poland since the times of Sobieski.

Anonymous joeholocaust November 12, 2015 7:43 PM  

Most Americans are pretty dumb. Most value people and things by how many dollars they are worth. This is true in Canada but to a slightly lesser extent. Most formerly white Christian countries are suffering from a growing spiritual emptiness directly correlated to their materialism and avarice. It was and is greed of our ruling class that is responsible for the subhuman tidal wave that is poised to wash out our civilization. Another indicator is how many Americans pronounce some words. Every time I hear some American say "Kyoo-pon" when she means coupon (koo-pon) my heart sinks a little further and I realize that these Americans, despite their vast personal gun collections, will not be the ones to lead white restoration to supremacy on the planet. Sad. It is up to the Slavs once more to do the heavy lifting.
Grinder

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 8:00 PM  

@179: So regional accents means white culture is dead and stupid. And the Slavs, who've never done any heavy lifting with regards to Western civilization, are the ones who are supposed to save us?

Please.

@178: I'd feel more inclined to by sympathetic if you weren't occupying territory that was German and/or Prussian for centuries—and Baltic before that—but never really Polish.

OpenID joeholocaust November 12, 2015 8:02 PM  

@178 Yeah, that's more like it. 8 bloody years of licking German and Russkies' asses. 8 damnable years of rule by the inexpungible remnants of the old soviet regime. Those pathetic lackeys and cowards. Enough is enough. We Poles endured more than any other great European nation. Over a hundred years without a state, crushed during WW2 between two totalitarianisms, with our capital nearly eradicated, our borders re-drawn, our populace expelled and mass deported and then over 40 years as a soviet colony. And we're still here. We are a resilient bunch and what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.


I have sympathy for Poles and much admiration for their contributions to civilization. That being said, I have some issues with Poles. They were not innocent victims like they often claim. Was there much weeping in Poland for territory lost by Czechoslovakia in the Munich Agreement? Probably not since Poland also helped themselves to some territory at the Czechoslovakians expense, not that it's often mentioned, and probably never in Polish schools. Europe would be best served by independent states led by Nationalist governments who commit to white solidarity and unity against the more numerous enemies of white civilization. Russians and Germans are a lesser threat to Poles than Poland's government and their own cosmopolitan globalist elite class.

Blogger Groot November 12, 2015 8:12 PM  

@177. Gaiseric:

Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America, by David Hackett Fischer, FTW.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar November 12, 2015 8:28 PM  

Race and Nation are the same. America is not a land, its a people - White people. If you want Americans in another color, try food dye, or colored sunglasses, because Europe is where they come from and nowhere else.
We on the Right do not bother with signs. Hippies and yippies have shown us that signs saving Whales and Owls are for birdbrains and naive idiots who are longing for Utopia. Utopia means place that doesn't exist in Greek. No one who believes in Utopia seems to know what it means, for obvious reasons.
I'm waiting and watching. The debt clock keeps ticking. People in the know say the debt is three or more times higher than the 18 Trillion the liars in Government say it is. I believe them. The GAO and Congress are famous for taking debts off budget so people can't see how bad it really is and will be soon.
Tick tock, tick tock. Soon the economy will blow up. Bubbles on Wall Street are gonna pop. Debts that can't be paid, won't. And then, Uncle Sham's rubber checks are gonna bounce like super balls. China is dumping the US Dollar, and handing out Reminbis.
When the US Dollar Hyperinflates, panic will hit the streets. Race riots, food riots, the inevitable race war that started in the 1960s without Whites being notified will go HOT.
That's when you'll see me. All Fucking Hell is Going to Break Loose. The system is falling down, and I'm going to make damn sure it never gets up.

Blogger Gaiseric November 12, 2015 8:37 PM  

@182 Groot. Great book. In most respects, much better than American Nations by Woodward, even though they cover the same territory.

OpenID joeholocaust November 12, 2015 8:40 PM  

@180 Germany had to pay a heavy price for its attempted conquest of Russia that cost tens of millions of Russians their lives. They are lucky Russians let them live at all. I would be more vengeful. Since Russia and Germany do not share a border, Poland was shifted westwards. Had Hitler focussed on defeating Communism rather than exterminating slavs and taking their territory, many Russians would have rose up to topple their government and the Jewish cancer could have been permanently dealt with. Germany could have had plenty of Lebensraum in Africa if they wanted. And German territory prior to WWI included large swaths that were originally inhabited by Slavic tribes going back thousands of years until the Germanic tribes expanded eastwards. There is still a Slavic minority that are native to the land they occupy in Germany, the Sorbs, who are loyal to Germany and merely interested to preserve what little remains of their particular culture. I am not interested in fixing the last 1000 years of border fluctuations. It is far preferable for all white Europeans to work peacefully together. Germany and Russia both have large amounts of blood of the other in their populations, thanks to the aggressiveness of Viking conquests and settling of cities all the way to the Kievan Rus and Germanic expansion across northern Europe. The more populous populations determined the character of the populations afterwards with Sorbs and others assimilating to the German states, Vikings settling in East Europe strongholds eventually becoming Slavicized by the greater Slavic population. Slavs and Germanics both broke the backs of barbarian invasions - Ottomans through the Balkans up to the gates of Vienna and the Huns and later, Mongols steamrolling from the east.

Anonymous Harsh November 12, 2015 8:44 PM  

Hockey... and shitty beer.

Well, now that all of our big brewers have been taken over by Americans I agree with you.

Sure. Next you're going to tell us Canadian whisky is better than bourbon.

Blogger ncartist November 12, 2015 8:59 PM  

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Blogger ncartist November 12, 2015 9:04 PM  

@ 177. Gaiseric
The Yankees were mostly English Puritans from East Anglia, and Quakers from the Midlands.

.Maps of where the northern European immigrants settled.

Blogger Groot November 12, 2015 9:14 PM  

From SlashDot:

Paper Retracted After Anti-Immigrant Scientist Bans Use of His Software

Blogger Were-Puppy November 12, 2015 9:23 PM  

@189 Groot
From SlashDot:

Paper Retracted After Anti-Immigrant Scientist Bans Use of His Software
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I love it. He's sticking his finger in the eye of the multicultureverse.

Anonymous Anonymous November 12, 2015 10:48 PM  

@157 "The Río Grande was the border of the Republic of Texas' at that time. For ten years before the U.S. annexed Texas, Mexico never did anything substantive. If the Río Grande weren't the border, why didn't the Mexicans seize that area up to the Nueces? They could've. They didn't. That says something."

Actually, the Mexican govt never accepted Santa Ana's "agreements" with Texas, since he was a prisoner of the Texans when he signed. Mexico continued to see Texas and Yucatán as the last two rebellious provinces of the revolt against the Centralistas. Accordingly, the Mexicans and the Texians were in a state of constant low level war in the years between 1836 and 1845, with constant raiding, invasions, fleet actions, and even Woll's occupation of San Antone, and the Nueces Strip was also the scene of a lot that action. At Independence and thereafter, the Texians claimed the Rio Grande to it's headwaters as the western and southern boundaries of Texas, but the Mexicans claimed the old boundary, the Nueces, was the border. Accordingly, the Nueces Strip was a no-man's-land with incursions by both sides and the natural place for the lopsided meeting engagement between Taylor's dragoons and the Mexican lancers and Polk had his casus belli. - Niccolò Arminius

Blogger James Clifton November 12, 2015 11:37 PM  

Fun fact:Poland had far and away more Jews per square mile than any other country in the world at one time.(Cool with the Jews, for the most part)

Fun fact: Poland was the only nation of the Soviet Empire that had religious teaching in it’s state schools.
(The Jews let Poland do it’s thing)

Fun fact: Poland and Israel are the most nationalistic countries in the world.(shout out to Hungary)

Blogger SciVo November 13, 2015 12:12 AM  

@ ZhukovG: But at least in my experience I didn't see anything that I could definitely call nationalism among the whites out west.

Cascadia is a thing because of a web of culture binding it together (bonds between each part instead of homogeneity). However, the I-5 corridor is politically opposite from the rest -- rainbow flags instead of Confederate flags -- and has most of the population.

Oregon and Washington are in the handful of states where a majority of the white population voted for Obama. On the other hand, the Oregon state constitution protects freedom of expression (not just speech), and Oregonians are disproportionately represented in the comments here. And even the leftists have local pride, with their "Keep Portland Weird" bumper stickers (stolen from Austin).

I think there is a case to be made for a Pacific Northwest libertarian regionalism that leans left in the city and right in the country, but mostly wants to be left alone either way. And regionalism is only a step away from nationalism.

Blogger SciVo November 13, 2015 12:21 AM  

@ The Other Robot:

Living next to Daesh or Yale, same diff.

Blogger Groot November 13, 2015 12:38 AM  

Still distracted by beautiful Polish girl... Mind temporarily off-line... Anybody know her name?... Just curious... You know...

Blogger SciVo November 13, 2015 12:43 AM  

@ Were-Puppy: There is something to that. But I haven't figured what it is, or how to harness it.

"For our fathers!"

Anonymous Chicken Little November 13, 2015 12:57 AM  

"Had the Mexican gambit worked as the EU's gambit has, the potamac would be a river of blood."

I highly doubt it, given the current status of white males, or so I've been informed.

"American nationalism is gathering steam."

American nationalism refers to citizens of America loving their country. Nothing more, nothing less.


"The Why We Fight is White children, present and future".

You are going to have to define "we" and "white".

"I'm really not certain what it will take to get the average American male to find an interest in anything besides watching sports, porn and trying to get laid."

That's the Roissy trifecta. Good luck breaking those habits.

"They're nationalists... there just is no american nation."

That's observably false. The American nation consists of people who call themselves Americans.

"The EU not admits that White Genocide by policy in the deliberate plan."

Could you please be more dramatic?

"Race and Nation are the same. America is not a land, its a people - White people."

Patently false. A nation is a political entity, one by which citizens agree to live under some sort of rule of law. Those citizens may be from distinct races or ethnic groups. Moreover, America was founded by whites, but with particular contributions by reds and blacks.

Blogger SciVo November 13, 2015 1:09 AM  

@ Student in Blue: I dunno why but it's far, far easier for me to tell when VD is using rhetoric. Probably because he just clobbers people with it.

He is being kind. (And I think it amuses him when people fall for it anyway.) When you're really good at something, it's natural to make it look easy, so you have to make it obvious on purpose.

Blogger SciVo November 13, 2015 1:27 AM  

@ redsash: This would prove to the doubters that we WASPs are willing to kill anything anywhere anytime.

I assure you that the Catholic reluctance is entirely theoretical.

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