Friday, January 29, 2016

Vaccine safety and "ovarian failure"

Once more, we see that those oh-so-trustworthy scientists appear to have carefully buried the risks in the name of not allowing parents to make informed decisions about what they inject into their children:
The HPV vaccine is heavily pushed to both teen girls and boys. Even though countries such as Japan won’t formally have stated that they don’t want to support it, the United States continues to massively push this vaccine despite all the push back world-wide. The HPV money grab by pharmaceutical companies is blatant and unchecked. Well, now things just got a whole lot worse: The American College Of Pediatricians has announced that the HPV vaccine is “possibly” associated with ovarian cancer. You can view the document here.

     It has recently come to the attention of the College that one of the recommended vaccines could possibly be associated with the very rare but serious condition of premature ovarian failure (POF), also known as premature menopause.

The rest of the press release is a defensive mess, claiming that the studies aren’t proof positive. But here’s the thing, if the ACP is admitting this small amount, imagine how large the actual issue likely is? They are always in a mode of protection when it comes to this vaccine, it creates a lot of revenue, so for them to admit this is a really big deal.

Pharmaceutical companies do not want any negative publications regarding Gardasil. And certainly, they’ve coerced and influenced this organization into not putting out negative claims over the matter. This tells me that this new discovery is huge and creates potential liability for them. It is so big that they actually fear not disclosing it.
It's amazing that so many scientists insist on continuing to do the one thing that is ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED to destroy all trust in them, which is point-and-shriek at those who do nothing more than dare to notice all the little anomalies and ask questions about the doubts that are quite naturally raised by their behavior.

Go ahead, shriek some more about Jenny McCarthy killing people. That's ever-so-convincing to everyone who wonders about your integrity.



Anonymous Alice De Goon January 29, 2016 9:51 PM  

The HPV Vaccine isn't the only thing the US is trying to push: it's all of the pozzed behavior that said vaccine enables. Can't promote a Sex and the City lifestyle to the tween demographic if their older sisters are dropping from cervical cancer in their early 20's....

Blogger Neanderserk January 29, 2016 10:18 PM  

It is morally imperative that you continue to inoculate us against vaccine propaganda until herd immunity is achieved.

I demand that infants memorize at least 20 such posts.

It's for the children, like abortion.

Anonymous wEz January 29, 2016 10:25 PM  

Soon comes all of the haters who have a problem with those of us that dont vaccinate our children. FYI, we don't give a ****. Inject your own kids with sh*t sheeple.

Anonymous Soga January 29, 2016 10:34 PM  

If it wasn't for the threat of government action being used against dissenters, I wouldn't even care if gullible leftists neutered their own children with a vaccine. I just wouldn't get it for myself or my family.

But because these fucking morons (who are anti-fascists, by the way, lol) would empower the government with the ability to rip apart families and steal children because their parents did a risk analysis and didn't like how the numbers were adding up.


... Wait, what do you mean? That only applies to pregnant women?

Blogger Neanderserk January 29, 2016 10:37 PM  

"Individuals who possess an immunodeficiency from HIV/AIDS, lymphoma, leukemia, a bone marrow cancer, an impaired spleen, chemotherapy, or radiotherapy may have lost any immunity that they previously had and vaccines may not be of any use for them because of their immunodeficiency."
- Source

When male homosexuals are quarantined and/or sterilized, perhaps we can talk about the intersection between mandatory vaccination and state's rights.

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Liberty January 29, 2016 10:43 PM  

Hang the doctors or the lawyers first?

I say the doctors, because then the lawyers will know that we're saving something even more special for them.

Hi, Rob.

Anonymous WillBest January 29, 2016 10:48 PM  

The vaxers are full of it. I am just a delayer and I catch hell (well I deny the flu vaccine and HPV).

I always ask them "Do you agree we should seal the border, quarantine everybody entering for 14 days, and cut off any man's penis who is convicted of sodomy, bestiality, or necrophilia?"

and since nobody has said yes my follow up is "Well then fuck you facist"

Blogger Young Heaving Bosoms of Liberty January 29, 2016 10:56 PM  

I always ask them "Do you agree we should seal the border, quarantine everybody entering for 14 days, and cut off any man's penis who is convicted of sodomy, bestiality, or necrophilia?"

Rather, let the big head suffer when the little head does the thinking.

Blogger Neanderserk January 29, 2016 10:57 PM  

That's very good Will, except "cut off any man's penis" does not eliminate libido.

Anonymous Susan January 29, 2016 11:10 PM  

The person who thought it a good idea to inject this filth into prepubescent girls without doing any kind of long term testing to get some idea of what issues might pop up in that long term, needs to be hogtied and delivered to our Dark Lord of the Blog for Malwyn to administer some serious punishment.

Mengele would be so proud of this generation's sick and perverse scientists. The way the FDA has treated this ticking time bomb is going to result in a bigger problem than the thalidomide disaster back in the 50's.

I could understand this vaccine being something to give a late teens girl who decided to become active, but to push it on prepubescent girls when they have no clue what will happen long term is just beyond sickening. Then there were the governors, like Rick Perry who wanted to mandate this be given to girls, no matter what.

Blogger Neanderserk January 29, 2016 11:18 PM  

It's ok. There are too many Africans; therefore we should sterilize white girls. The important thing is that there be no stigma or consequences for female promiscuity.

Blogger Tallawampus January 29, 2016 11:19 PM  

This isn't from the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), it's from the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) - they are the smaller conservative alternative to the AAP.

Though by my estimation Bernie Sanders is more conservative than the AAP.

From the actual ACP press release:

Adverse events that occur after vaccines are frequently not caused by the vaccine and there has not been a noticeable rise in POF cases in the last 9 years since HPV4 vaccine has been widely used.


While there is no strong evidence of a causal relationship between HPV4 and ovarian dysfunction, this information should be public knowledge for physicians and patients considering these vaccines.

So it's not a full on admission of anything other than a suspicion that should be looked into - and it should be. It doesn't change my opinion on the vaccine.

Also, just as an aside, the ACP is good. I keep meaning to join them since I dropped out of the AAP, I think I'll do it tonight.

Their core values contain

A. Recognizes that there are absolutes and scientific truths that transcend relative social considerations of the day.

B. Recognizes that good medical science cannot exist in a moral vacuum and pledges to promote such science.

C. Recognizes the fundamental mother-father family unit, within the context of marriage, to be the optimal setting for the development and nurturing of children and pledges to promote this unit.

and objectives of:

To affirm that parents have the inalienable right and responsibility to educate and rear their children;

To engender the honest interpretation of scientific pediatric research, without deference to current political persuasions;

Blogger 1337kestrel January 29, 2016 11:19 PM  

When male homosexuals are quarantined and/or sterilized

What? Why would you sterilize them? And why quarantine them? They usually only rape each other. Who would produce pop music and Hollywood Rom-Coms?

I think the vaccine problems stem from complete, widespread incompetence on the part of the scientists. They're bioengineering without any understanding of engineering principles; they are doing what they know, which is *experimenting* on the populace.

I expect we will find out this is being targeted to low income "urban" teens. Liberals carrying out their slow genocide of the black race without opposition, as usual, while also piling another straw on the back of native US demographics, and exploiting foreign consumers at the same time. Multitasking.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 29, 2016 11:27 PM  

Shades of TDAP+Zika= microencephaly?

"Shrugs" I avoid and limit vaccines for my kids as long as possible. The I F*ckin' Love Science! crowd can have their Scientody (spelling?)

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit January 29, 2016 11:41 PM  

@12 Tallawampus

The full article is rather more damning based on the Gaedasil- and Cervarix-linked cases of amennorhea in VAERS reports since the new vaccine was implemented.

I encourage all those in favor of vaccinations, who are likely to roll their eyes at the semi-literate rantings of the article to which VD links, to take the time to read the ACP report.


Blogger Neanderserk January 29, 2016 11:50 PM  

@13 "What? Why would you sterilize them?"

Castrate, not sterilize. My bad.

Because homosexual and immigration are the two biggest disease vectors, obviously. So if you care about herd immunity...

Underclass slums would be another.

Blogger Neanderserk January 29, 2016 11:53 PM  

And I'm sure all those ag subsidies for grains and veggie oils play havoc on fatass consumer immune systems too.

Also the cubicle farms and megacities generated by the regulatory state.

We could really clean things up! Cleanliness is next to godliness, after all.

Blogger Neanderserk January 29, 2016 11:56 PM  

While we're at it, let's eliminate STDs entirely by instituting the death penalty for adultery and mandatory concubinage for sluts.

Blogger Jason Rennie January 30, 2016 12:02 AM  

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Blogger YIH January 30, 2016 12:26 AM  

Not at all surprised. I happened to come across a Guardasil print ad, so I saved it.
Phama print ads (per FDA regs) have to have a lot more info that radio/TV spots, what it is, what it's (officially) for, what it does, possible side effects, ect, ect, typically a whole page unto itself.
Now I knew that it claims it's supposed to prevent cervical cancer (yet it's promoted for boys too) but they're making a bunch of other claims for it as well:
* Vulvar and vaginal cancers
(both boys and girls)
* anal cancer
* genital warts (that's what it was actually developed for, a relatively minor STD)
* precancerous lesions for all the above
It also includes the recommended ages: 9-26, yes, you read that right, 9 years old!
If you allow 9 yr olds to attend SF/F cons, maybe you should consider it - you never know what could happen to them there.
Some other interesting things from the print ad:
* Guardasil may not fully protect everyone who gets the vaccine (well, at least they include that bit of honesty)
* Guardasil will not protect against HPV types you already have.
The side effects are the routine 'you might be allergic to this' and what will probably happen if you react to it.
Plus a laundry list of general malaise that can describe, well, just about anything, such as ''generally feeling unwell'' (exact quote).
The part that I italicized is the part that gets me, the 9 years old. If you're concerned that 9 year olds might get STDs, you have much more serious problems - that it's gonna take more than any vaccine to deal with.
Gotta love them (((Big Pharma))) morals, right?

Blogger Tallawampus January 30, 2016 12:49 AM  

@15 The Overgrown Hobbit

My take on Gardasil having most of the amenorrhea/POF cases (86/89) is that Gardasil is used more often then Cervarix. Fewer cases to report if fewer people use it.

Another point is that amenorrhea in girls in the 11 yo age group - the usual age of beginning the series - is quite common. It's not unusual at all for girls just starting menses to have irregular menses. The vast majority start having regular menses as they get older.

So in these VAERS reports, how many of the girls started having regular cycles later on with no long term problems? And again, as is stated in the article, the rate of premature ovarian failure has not risen since the introduction of Gardasil.

And don't think I'm defending vaccines. I use them, but I don't blindly think they are safe. All medicines are dangerous, even Tylenol and OTC cold medicines.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy January 30, 2016 12:52 AM  

@20: * genital warts (that's what it was actually developed for, a relatively minor STD)

The virus that causes genital warts also causes cancers in the same locations. Genital warts are not minor at all.

Though I would suggest “don't screw around like rabbits” as a better preventative measure than shooting up every 12-year-old girl in the U.S. with a vaccine that will, at best, only protect them for a few years (which is what the government has been pushing).

@14: Shades of TDAP+Zika= microencephaly?

Do you have evidence for that? Or even a plausible causal mechanism?

Anonymous LurkingPuppy January 30, 2016 12:56 AM  

@21: the rate of premature ovarian failure has not risen since the introduction of Gardasil.

Would an increase in the rate of POF be noticed and reported?

Blogger Tallawampus January 30, 2016 1:09 AM  

@20 YIH

The reason it has to be given so young is that as a population there are a certain percentage of girls having their first sexual encounter very young, like 10 or 11 years old. Since the vaccine can only prevent and not cure HPV it has to be given prior to any exposure to the virus.

Even where I live here in a very conservative cowboy state we have girls having their first baby at 13 years old.

If you are absolutely certain your daughter will remain virginal until marriage, and you are absolutely certain her groom has also remained virginal and not contracted HPV, then sure, don't get it.

I do teach abstinence as the absolute best prevention for STDs and pregnancy for the teenagers I see. I've just learned from experience not to trust teenagers or hormones.

I've said this before too, I don't care if you get your kids vaccinated or not. I'm not a save the world, make a difference kind of person.

Anonymous TBeau January 30, 2016 1:09 AM  

Wife's 28 weeks pregnant, we've been in for scheduled checks 4-5x now. Thrice we've had to assert our no vaccine stance. First Dr was neutral / cool; second looked at me like she would like to have the authorities send me to a nice gulag, esp disappointed that I'm one of those literates; third (last week) was a nurse. She was most pernicious of all: "we'll just take your weight, then take that blood sample and give you your shot for ." Excuse me? What shot is that? "Oh it's for whooping cough." (said matter-of-factly - duh the sun is hot, moron). And that's a vaccine, right? "Um, yes." No. Happy cheerful nurse is now stone-faced and cold. Which is great for my misanthropic appetites! Nyum nyum, fatty.

Blogger Tallawampus January 30, 2016 1:12 AM  

@23 Lurking Puppy

I'm not sure where the author sourced that, it's not footnoted, and I don't know where to look off the top of my head. It wouldn't be reflected in VAERS.

Anonymous Takin' a Look January 30, 2016 1:18 AM  

@ LurkingPuppy

No, only this.

Zika virus has been known for 70 years. It is widespread in africa and southern asia for at least the last 50 years. South and central america most likely has had it for the last 30 years at least.

Zika causes no symptoms in 80% of cases based on random blood samplings, the remaining cases are slight flu type headaches which are over with in a week. No deaths or debilitating injuries. Flu kills, zika doesn't.

Why now? Did it mutate? How does this incredibly common virus (according to Brazil, over a million cases were diagnosed last year) cause microencephaly?

The answer is, it doesn't. We are being fed another pandemic scare like fast-acting ebola which makes you expire without horrific bleeding.

It's bullshit.

Blogger YIH January 30, 2016 1:57 AM  

@24. Tallawampus:
as a population there are a certain percentage of girls having their first sexual encounter very young, like 10 or 11 years old.
Yes, I know Africans physically mature sooner than humans - it's why sports take such an interest in them.
Even if it's Africans, in Western countries we have a term for 10 or 11 year olds having sex, it's called ''sexual abuse''!
Where I live, at those ages, that can get you 20 to life. In the civilized world it's considered a serious crime.
Granted, if Africans were where they belong, what you describe would be considered normal behavior. It's why they don't belong here.

Blogger YIH January 30, 2016 2:42 AM  

Via Le Chateau:
What kind of Doctor recommends Guardasil? See for yourself.

Blogger rho January 30, 2016 3:03 AM  

We have a Myers-Briggs post and a vaccine post. An IQ post would make a hat-trick.

Blogger Tallawampus January 30, 2016 3:21 AM  

@29 YIH

That is NOT me in that video. I don't look that good in shorts.

Anonymous Messenjah January 30, 2016 4:36 AM  

"... Wait, what do you mean? That only applies to pregnant women?"

Try this boomer/leftard "logic" on for size... If said pregnant woman doesn't get prenatal care doctors will call CPS on the parents but if the woman wants to abort the baby er, um fetus well that's ok. So it's ok to murder a baby but if you don't get prenatal care somehow you are a bad parent.

Anonymous Midnight Avenue J January 30, 2016 5:36 AM  

Susan, this is being pushed on all women. A coworker is now sterile from the vaccine. Her doc told her to get it during her first and only pregnancy, when she was 24 (and married, monigamous). Why a married pregnant woman would need garda Sul is beyond me. Doc said it was just in case, as other partners in past could have infected her, or husband could cheat...well, coworker took vax, now has POF and cannot have anymore blond, blue eyed babies with her handsome German husband.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 30, 2016 5:41 AM  

@33 Post-hoc fallacy.  I've read tales of women who gave babies up for adoption and then discovered they had secondary infertility.  They might have saved their fertility for marriage if they'd had an abortion, but nobody wants to talk about that.

Anonymous WIAN January 30, 2016 6:02 AM  

"Mr.Rational" = misnomer

Blogger Rusty Fife January 30, 2016 7:53 AM  

@24 Tallawampus

Even where I live here in a very conservative cowboy state we have girls having their first baby at 13 years old.

@28 YIH

Yes, I know Africans physically mature sooner than humans 

It's not Africans in a cowboy state. Mexicans have been endemic to the Southwest, i.e. South of Aztec CO, since 1610. I'm not sure what the Indian mating habits are North of there.

OpenID izzynutz January 30, 2016 8:10 AM  

#33 I've known girls who used abortion as birth control while they were single and now that they're married, they can't get pregnant. What's your point?

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 30, 2016 10:37 AM  

@37 And how old were they when they began trying?

Blogger Rusty Fife January 30, 2016 12:19 PM  


No kidding.

Anonymous BGKB January 30, 2016 12:19 PM  

Regardless of anything else pushing gardisil on boys is stupid.

very conservative cowboy state we have girls having their first baby at 13 years old.

Mexico has hundreds of 10yo girls giving birth each year, but in the US Canada, Europe and Australia have only had 8 10yo girls give birth in recorded history, of those 8 only one was white.

When male homosexuals are quarantined They tried that Manhattan and San Fran are full.

In the civilized world it's considered a serious crime.

With Hispanic families being ok with a 11yo giving birth to a 30yos kid, prosecution is unlikely.

They might have saved their fertility for marriage if they'd had an abortion, but nobody wants to talk about that

As long as they didn't get their abortion from Kermit Gosnell.

izzynutz There is no reason to give it to already pregnant women other than to run up the bar tab. Most places are afraid to give preg women anything for fear of birth defect lawsuits.

Anonymous GracieLou January 30, 2016 1:34 PM  

"...coworker took vax, now has POF.." Which leads to obesity and hirsutism. Feminist witches everywhere are all for it. If they can't be cute, then it is only fair that every woman be fat, bearded and sweaty.

Blogger Robert What? January 30, 2016 2:15 PM  

Is it possible that "ovarian failure" was in the design?

Anonymous Susan January 30, 2016 2:30 PM  


The point is, they want to push this drug on women and prepubescent girls who do not need it. And damn the collateral damage they are causing.

Abortion is a voluntary solution for those trollops. This drug is not. When it first came out, there were governors who wanted to mandate by law that it be given to prepubescent girls and teens, regardless of their life choices. That is the difference, voluntary sterilization via baby killing vs involuntary by the medical profession and scientists who assume they know better than we do.

Blogger Respect Orcs Now January 30, 2016 2:37 PM  

It's the same with the climate change types. I happen to believe something is occuring... (Artic Ocean is ice free in summer, glaciers are disappearing) I just don't buy the official line.

These questions result in shrieking and shunning. A shame "science" isn't really as open and critical as many like to say:

- How much climate change is natural versus man-made?
- What is the impact of solar activity on temperature variances?
- There are periods in Earths history where there was a higher CO2 % in the atmosphere and the temperature was cooler, how do you account for that?
- How much impact do you think humans can possibly have if we enter another naturally occuring warming/cooling cycle?
- What will carbon taxes actually accomplish without an actual alterative (solar and wind are not alternatives - do not make me laugh)?
- If you are serious about climate change then do you support nuclear power?

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 30, 2016 4:39 PM  

@44 There are periods in Earths history where there was a higher CO2 % in the atmosphere and the temperature was cooler, how do you account for that?

The Sun brightens by about 1% every 100 million years, that's how.  As hydrogen turns to helium, the density increases and the temperature required to prevent further contraction goes up.  This increases the rate of fusion.  The higher CO2 levels in the past balanced the lower solar radiation to keep Earth's CO2 removal via weathering in balance with volcanic emissions; if things freeze over, weathering goes way down.

What will carbon taxes actually accomplish without an actual alterative

End the 50-year fantasy of "no nukes".  In the 1960's, nuclear steam systems were cheaper than coal boilers.  Had the projections then come true, we wouldn't have this issue today.

There was just a massive Senate vote in favor of new nuclear programs (the vote on the amendment to S. 2012 was 87-4), so this might just be happening.

Blogger Admiral James January 30, 2016 5:18 PM  

I remember being immediately skeptical when it was touted that the HPV vaccine "prevents cancer"
In the fine print it is mentioned that the vaccine contains the antigens of four strains of the HPV virus that are responsible for 70% of the cases of CERVICAL CANCER.
I would not be surprised to find out later that the other strains of virus that comprise the other 30% turn out to grow in number and behave more nasty than the other four strains and that the other strains held them in check.
Add to that the fact that the inititial studies on teenage girls ( the target group contained the smallest group of subjects
( a little over 2000 per the MERCK pamphlet) and that the vaccine was " fast tracked" , I think HPV= Help Pay for Viox ( the drug MERCK was sued over)

Blogger OldFan January 30, 2016 11:37 PM  

Always remember that opposition to government-directed vaccination is not a rejection of all vaccinations. Instead, it is a growing distrust of the addition of yet another mandatory injection to an ever-larger list of such things. It is a lack of confidence in the increasingly politicized results of government-funded science.

No matter what was accomplished in the past by vaccinations, people are simply not trusting the government to make those decisions any more.

The anti-vaccination movement is only the latest of the effects of the escalating failures of the over-controlling state.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy January 30, 2016 11:56 PM  

@27: Zika virus has been known for 70 years. … Why now?

Brazil is having a water shortage; residents are hoarding water in large containers; mosquitoes are breeding in many of those containers. More mosquitoes mean more mosquito-borne spread of disease.

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