Rabid Puppies 2016: Best Related Work
The preliminary recommendations for the Best Related Work category:
On a not entirely unrelated note, one of my recommendations for Best Fan Writer, Dave Freer, explains how the advocates of the rule change to the Hugo Awards known as EPH are not only biased, but are behaving unethically by violating their non-disclosure agreement and reporting on the "results" they claim to have found.
- Appendix N by Jeffro Johnson. Begun in 2014, Jeffro finished his massive 43-post exploration of Gary Gygax's famous appendix of science fiction and fantasy works that inspired the creation of Dungeons & Dragons in 2015.
- Between Light and Shadow: An Exploration of the Fiction of Gene Wolfe, 1951 to 1986 by Marc Aramini. An incredibly in-depth, 826-page literary analysis of every piece of fiction published by Gene Wolf during the 35 years specified.
- The Story of Moira Greyland by Moira Greyland. The daughter of Walter Breen and Marion Zimmer Bradley speaks for herself about the dark side of science fiction fandom.
- Safe Space as Rape Room by Daniel Eness. A five-part series on the disturbing and recurring problem that science fiction fandom has been attempting to hide from the outside world for more than fifty years.
- SJWs Always Lie by Vox Day. The bestselling work of political philosophy; it happens to contain the most accurate account of both GamerGate and the 2015 Hugo Awards controversy available today.
- Best Graphic Story
- Best Editor (long-form)
- Best Semiprozine
- Best Fanzine
- Best Fancast
- Best Fan Writer
- Best Fan Artist
- Best New Writer
On a not entirely unrelated note, one of my recommendations for Best Fan Writer, Dave Freer, explains how the advocates of the rule change to the Hugo Awards known as EPH are not only biased, but are behaving unethically by violating their non-disclosure agreement and reporting on the "results" they claim to have found.
Fast forward to this year. To File 770. Where Jameson Quinn – one of the Making Light cabal plotting to institute EPH announces that he and Bruce Schneier have been given the anonymized data, and tested it. Incidentally (because he’s not too bright, it seems) he announces that there is a weak correlation between the non-puppy nominations and what was nominated, but that this was much stronger in the puppies and what they nominated. Now, it doesn’t take a genius to work out that, without knowing the ‘secret slates’ Quinn and Schneier could not separate voters for those cabals from other voters. So: if a ‘weak’ correlation shows up with ALL of the data, there is a high probability that indeed, there was secret concert voting by some. After all, the pattern of ‘you nominate mine, I’ll nominate yours’ is well known and documented from the Nebula Awards, before they anonymized that nomination process. It may well still go on, but it is harder to see. Many of the same authors come up in Hugo nominations, which should be unlikely. The one is supposed to be a peer award, the other a fan award.There is no reason to believe anything that Quinn and Schneier claim; they are observably untrustworthy on the basis of their affiliations, declarations, and NDA-violating actions.
Which leads us to: how did Quinn and Schneier get data which was not available to everyone because giving it to anyone breached voter confidentiality and privacy rules? I don’t know either from Adam — but Quinn & Schneier came from a group which has a questionable reputation, has a financial interest in the outcome of the Hugos. Unless they are babes-in-wood those who provided the data to Quinn and Schneier knew that they were not people who could be considered neutral by a substantial number of the people whose data they were handing over. The two ‘researchers’ also knew full well they were not considered neutral or trusted: Quinn posts on File 770, another well-known anti-puppy site.
“As previously announced, it was determined that the data was unable to be sufficiently anonymized for a general release, so the researchers were provided data under a non-disclosure agreement.”
I see. A non-disclosure agreement… with a pair of ‘researchers’ from a partisan group with a questionable reputation and a financial interest. In secret.
My, that looks REALLY ethical. And no one spoke up. Not one of the Hugo Admins involved went public. Even those who objected… thought if they kept quiet, they’d get away with it. I see. Rather like: “I complained to him when he was molesting the little girl, I tried to get him to stop, but he did it anyway, and I didn’t go to the cops, because he was one of us.” My word! We can TRUST you after that. You would never permit anyone to diddle the system for their favorites.
And Jameson Quinn promptly breached their non-disclosure agreement. Well, what did you expect? Rules are for little people.
Labels: Hugo Award, Puppies
46 Comments:
Vox
it happens to contain the most accurate account of both GamerGate and the 2015 Hugo Awards controversy available today.
and lo, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth at File770.
Only 3 of 5 nomination that directly benefit VD and CH? Your desperation deserves better than that, surely.
Karez wrote:Only 3 of 5 nomination that directly benefit VD and CH? Your desperation deserves better than that, surely.
Third Law. Your fear is palpable.
oh look, there's some wailing and gnashing now.
2. Karez February 15, 2016 8:19 AM
Only 3 of 5 nomination that directly benefit VD and CH? Your desperation deserves better than that, surely.
whyn't you go on and total up the total percentage of NON-Castalia/Vox noms that he's already suggested, dumbfuck?
whyn't you try calculating how many NON-Castalia/Vox noms he put on his 'slate' last year? you might start with the multiple people on his slates who *withdrew* from the Hugo votes ...
SJWs always project.
Good lord! I hadn't heard about twitter and Sarkeesian
Well that's the end of Twitter.
Did they do this to get funding from SJW venture capital? Or is this what SJWs do when they are this deep in the death spiral?
Cataline Sergius wrote:Good lord! I hadn't heard about twitter and Sarkeesian
Well that's the end of Twitter.
Did they do this to get funding from SJW venture capital? Or is this what SJWs do when they are this deep in the death spiral?
Their current CEO appears to be an SJW himself, so the cancer's growth was accelerated.
Your desperation deserves better than that, surely.
That's a very interesting statement in light of the 3rd Law of SJW: SJWs always project.
What about those recommendations makes you feel desperate?
"There is no reason to believe anything that Quinn and C claim; they are observably untrustworthy on the basis of their affiliations, declarations, and NDA-violating actions. "
Schneier has a LOT to lose in terms of his credibility getting involved in this hot mess. What a fool.
Amusing book title he has here: Liars and Outliers: Enabling the Trust that Society Needs to Thrive
"Did they do this to get funding from SJW venture capital? Or is this what SJWs do when they are this deep in the death spiral?"
Sarah Hoyt calls it the leftward death roll, or something like that. They signal their virtue ever more strongly, as they run out of money. This way, other leftists will give them more support after the business fails, and hopefully new politically correct jobs.
Wow. ‘The Story of Moira Greyland’ will make Leftist heads explode all over the place.
Only 3 of 5 nomination that directly benefit VD and CH?
You also need to rethink your math.
Oh lol! You did "other than full" again. Lovely.
The Appendix N work in any sane universe really is sort of a nerd dream come true. I like Marc's book better but Jeffro did what should be the easy populist win.
Also, for the historians, Wolfe has never won correct? He's generally felt to be on the wrong side of politics despite his talent right? If I am remembering correctly then that would make a win by Marc extra fun.
Did I miss the dramatic presentation ones? I thought there was an Avengers Ultron recommendation.
These recommendations are just laughable. I have no seen a single DrWho mention in any of these lists.
Its just ridiculous.
Was waiting for this category. Shots fired.
Any sane Scifi award would love to have the Wolfe and Appendix N competing.
If they're hiding the nomination data and leaking it to people who are lying about it, we have no way of verifying the results, do we? Did The Mountain That Writes need that data to do his accounting devil magicks two years back to say the business with the vote tallies was on the up and up?
Even Miss Universe is audited by Price Waterhouse. Or was. The nerdy accountant on stage at an awards show is a well worn trope.
Is Bruce here engaging in "accounting theatre?"
Charlie Martel 7359 wrote:Even Miss Universe is audited by Price Waterhouse. Or was. The nerdy accountant on stage at an awards show is a well worn trope.
Is Bruce here engaging in "accounting theatre?"
For the sake of his reputation, he should pray that never becomes the perception. He has a lot to lose over these Hugo Award small potatoes.
Wait, wait... not the Bruce Schneier of Applied Cryptography? How the mighty have fallen.
Bruce, bro, you really, really should not have squandered all that hard won credibility - it took decades to accrue, and you threw it away over freakin' Hugos? Unbelievable.
While EPH is about voting, have they changed any rules with respect to nominating?
That is, will they reject your nomination because it looks like someone else's? Well, is the same as?
While EPH is about voting, have they changed any rules with respect to nominating?
EPH is not about voting. It is about nominating. And yes, they also passed 4 of 6. Nominate four, six nominees.
Karez wrote:
Only 3 of 5 nomination that directly benefit VD and CH? Your desperation deserves better than that, surely.
Third Law. Your fear is palpable.
I took the first statement as a sarcastic joke... perhaps I'm wrong?
OT: When you search for "Vox Day" in bing it brings up Alpha Game Plan, not your main blog.
Ahhh, my mistake. A little searching revealed the meaning of 4 of 6.
It seems to be that each nominator gets to nominate four works in each category and there will be six nominees on the ballot in each category in the end.
That seems to mean that six slates could win with each having enough nominators ... which force out those so-called 'worthy' works that should be considered.
Because of the 1994 Michael Jackson case, NDA's can no longer be used as a shield in child abuse cases in California.
That could well be true in other states as well, but CA is the only one I know for certain.
As I've said before, sooner or later a lawsuit is going to hit the fan.
Then watch the cockroaches run and hide when the light comes on.
@5
Whoops accidental crosspost. My bad.
These recommendations are just laughable. I have no seen a single DrWho mention in any of these lists.
Its just ridiculous.
Omni-Poly-Multi-Genders Dig Missy didn't make the cut? How is that even a thing?
I don't see the upside for Bruce Schneier with involving himself in this.
In any event, nominating two works that address the fact that science fiction's organized fandom has harbored and protected pedophiles is brilliant.
Perhaps the Truefens can explain that it wasn't really "pedophilia" pedophilia.
I don't know what Schneier is doing with this lot but five or so years or so ago he had plenty of respect among IT nerds.
And any way, lalalalalalalalalala, I can't hear you, lalalalalalala.
FYI I ended up having to contact MidAmeriCon II in order to obtain my pin and voting info. They got back to me very quickly.
@2 Desperation? You realize this is the Dark Lord you speak of? The Dark Lord is never, ever desperate. The Dark Lord's enemies are the desperate ones. Trust me on this. If they [the enemies] are not desperate then they are congenital idiots from the womb or have been rendered so by what's called advanced schooling in this doomed society. Or, family, or whatever....
I got my PIN in the normal course of things. Finally.
@30 same here. They were very quick and polite and professional. Gratifying.
I don't know what Schneier is doing with this lot but five or so years or so ago he had plenty of respect among IT nerds.
Haven't heard much from him lately. He's been semi-buddies with Doctorow for a while though and he has some history with SFF cons. And for someone who is ostensibly pro-freedom, it was damned odd that on his blog last week he suggested government regulation was needed to prevent businesses from putting fake addresses on Google's crowd-sourced maps.
Is there perhaps a phenomenon where a certain type of libertarian morphs into an SJW when the world refuses to live up to their ideas?
Banjo wrote:FYI I ended up having to contact MidAmeriCon II in order to obtain my pin and voting info. They got back to me very quickly.
Ten minute turn-around time to obtain mine, with a very polite and apologetic e-mail. Info in hand.
Jack,
The dark lord remains quite desperate. The pleading will come next. Who's surprised?
Karez wrote:Jack,
The dark lord remains quite desperate. The pleading will come next. Who's surprised?
Fear.
The proposed EPH by WorldCon CHORFs, Rape Rape's "can't we just get along" to the Sad Puppies, the attempts to marginalize Vox and those like him from Tor, File 770 commenters, and other SF elitists, the ongoing self-destructive actions of Twitter to jam cotton in their own ears to make a safe space for tyranny, and so many other similar events are actions of the fearful.
These actions put the lie to the sound and fury (signifying nothing) of those that enact and support them.
All these actions are of the fearful -- the SJWs. Those confident in their victory would merely snicker at Vox and leave him to whatever he plays at in the moment. He would be of no consequence, he would get no airtime, and he wouldn't live so continuously and uncomfortably in their heads.
In your head.
In your fear.
The dark lord remains quite desperate. The pleading will come next. Who's surprised?
Sounds like someone isn't allowed too close to the local schools.
@VD
Ooooo! An comeback of such strength. Perhaps it should be nominated for best short story on the Rabid Puppy slate.
"Those confident in their victory would merely snicker at Vox and leave him to whatever he plays at in the moment."
I have dog in this hunt. I'm merely amused by the kind of audacity that comes with desperation and thought you might be too.
Karez wrote:"Those confident in their victory would merely snicker at Vox and leave him to whatever he plays at in the moment."
I have dog in this hunt. I'm merely amused by the kind of audacity that comes with desperation and thought you might be too.
The only desperation I see is on the other side of the aisle. If you have information to share for my amusement, then share it. If you have nothing, then you are the amusement here.
Is there perhaps a phenomenon where a certain type of libertarian morphs into an SJW when the world refuses to live up to their ideas?
I've read Schneier's magnum opus and have been following his blog for years. I don't think he has ever been a type of libertarian. Beyond matters of crypto and privacy, he scrupulously keeps his personal politics private (as far as I've seen).
I guess his friends give him away. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I've read Schneier's magnum opus and have been following his blog for years. I don't think he has ever been a type of libertarian.
Maybe I was assuming too much. I figured the guy who coined "security theater" would at least lean towards libertarianism.
36. Karez February 15, 2016 2:06 PM
The dark lord remains quite desperate. The pleading will come next. Who's surprised?
baw-hahahahahhahahahahahaha.
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Regarding Karenz...why are any of you giving this troll further air time and unwarranted attention? It is a painfully obvious ploy to grab attention by poking a stick at Vox and his fans. It has contributed nothing to the discussion beyond presuming the ability to read Vox's mind and deduce from his posts a position indefensible by Vox's own Dogma. It's bullshit, and it's bad for you. Stop it.
Good point. He is henceforth no more.
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