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Tuesday, July 19, 2016

The hero of Nice lives

I'm glad to learn that the courageous motorcyclist who attacked the truck in Nice survived; I didn't realize that he was actually helped stop the truck in the end. It had been assumed that he'd been killed due to the scooter under the truck, but it turns out that the scooter was thrown there intentionally.
A hero motorcyclist has told of his frantic bid to stop ISIS truck terrorist Mohamed Bouhlel by trying to jump from his bike and onto the lorry as it ploughed at high speed into crowds in Nice. In an act of astonishing bravery, Alexander Migues sped his bike alongside the 19-tonne truck as Bouhlel ran over 84 people watching fireworks on Bastille Day.

Speaking for the time, he revealed how he leapt onto the moving death machine and clung on as he tried to wrestle the driver's-side door open several times as the truck sped along the promenade.

'I saw the truck rise (over the median strip) and run over a lady, he told Nice Martin. 'He was on the sidewalk and then he returned to the road and he tried to run me over too. It was instinctive, I cannot even explain how I managed to go chasing a truck. When I saw that he was really determined, I tried something,' Migues said

Despite his bravery, Migues was forced to abandon his attempt when the terrorist pulled a gun on him. The Frenchman has been credited with saving lives by slowing the truck enough to give another motorcyclist time to throw his scooter under the wheels of the lorry.

'He arrived in a scooter and threw it under the wheels of the truck to stop. I let go of the door and when the scooter tapped the truck I heard the noise of bullets,' Migues said.

He said he wished he could have hung onto the truck longer and slowed it more so that victims would have had more time to flee its deadly path. But he can take comfort that the time when the scooter went under the truck to when the police engaged in a firefight there were no more killed.
In one of the non-fiction articles that will either appear in RTRH 2 or TWBW 11, the special forces author recommends that the best way to survive an urban attack is to adopt an attacker's mentality, to move, and to act without hesitation. Alexander Migues is an exceptional example of a man who did just that.

And if Migues hadn't forced Mohamed Bouhlel to deal with his attempts to get into the cab, Bouhlel would not have slowed down enough for the scooter to stop the truck.

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Blogger Doom July 19, 2016 4:58 AM  

I hope those were, to him, his people? Or was he blindly white-knighting? I'm glad he survived. It's great that he might have played a part in ending the thing. Beyond my concerns is... about retribution. It would be curious to see if he survives a decade, if he ever has to go on the run, hide, or gets murdered. Can his nation, grateful or not, protect him? Will it?

Hmm? Oh, look at what this US government is doing with veterans, and understand this government is not a friend of it's own past. Enemies. Civilians who interfere with the will of the elites by ending their terrorist stunts may well end up in the same boat. *wink* Choose who you save wisely. May be better to risk life in limb in... other pursuits. Terrorists are just hired hands.

Blogger rho July 19, 2016 5:00 AM  

Turns out:
1) Don't wage war on a scooter.
2) Shoot a fucking gun.
3) Science fiction publications are not a guideline.

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 5:04 AM  

No, rho, you're an idiot.

1) Use what you have. The scooter stopped the truck.
2) The police did shoot their guns. A handgun is not going to stop a 19-ton truck, moron. And neither you nor anyone else has a gun on them at all times.
3) The non-fiction articles in TWBW and RTRH most certainly are guidelines, and excellent ones at that.

You're in well over your head, so stop digging. Unlike you, the people who write those articles actually have combat experience and know whereof they speak, they haven't just fired their Glock at a range.

Blogger Shimshon July 19, 2016 5:17 AM  

Vox, you mean you can't stop a semi with a single 9mm shot as portrayed in the movies? I'm shocked, shocked!

Blogger The Kurgan July 19, 2016 5:33 AM  

As in actual science, in war, it often comes out once you find out the real whole story, that it was the actions of single, often unremembered and unremarked upon individuals, acting with courage and determination that really change the path of many lives.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 19, 2016 5:36 AM  

"I saw a lot of guys die in Vietnam. But I saw a lot of guys live too. The biggest difference was, the guys who lived picked a direction - left, right, straight ahead, didn't matter - they picked a direction and went. It didn't always work, sometimes they died anyway, but the guys who stood there wondering which way to go when the shooting started, they always died."

-Lionel, former US Army Long-Range Recon, and former co-worker of Jack's during Lionel's third career (this time as a code jockey) , half drunk one night as we discussed the inability of corporate management to make a damned decision.

I was half drunk too, but that always stuck with me. If you can't think of anything better to do, just charge.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 5:42 AM  

The cowardly mind thinks "but if I wait just a little bit, maybe someone ELSE comes to the same conclusion about charging, only a few seconds sooner than me"

Anonymous Jack Amok July 19, 2016 6:00 AM  

The cowardly mind thinks "but if I wait just a little bit, maybe someone ELSE comes to the same conclusion about charging, only a few seconds sooner than me"

Indeed, but the cowardly mind needs to be told* that the enemy has more than enough bullets to shoot people hiding in the corners. And maybe add that the enemy will easily find them by the smell of the coward shitting his pants.

* Needs to be told, but won't listen, yes, I know. But tell him anyway.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 19, 2016 6:06 AM  

Shimshon wrote:Vox, you mean you can't stop a semi with a single 9mm shot as portrayed in the movies? I'm shocked, shocked!

You have to take the shot in the middle of one of those no-hands cartwheels.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 19, 2016 6:10 AM  

Doom wrote:I hope those were, to him, his people? Or was he blindly white-knighting?

He was attacking. Bastard tried to hit him with a semi.

Blogger Human Animal July 19, 2016 6:24 AM  

"Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism." - Said a man who is still alive and employed.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 6:27 AM  

And who changed them?

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr July 19, 2016 6:28 AM  

Hopefully, the French government will award him the Legion of Honor.

OpenID dudequest July 19, 2016 6:55 AM  

He will probably get arrested for hate crimes against a minority.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 19, 2016 7:04 AM  

He should be recognized as a national hero. Someone besides a police officer did something.

Blogger Remo - Vile Faceless Minion #99 July 19, 2016 7:16 AM  

Obviously we need to make bikes illegal and Alexander Migues should be arrested and jailed - we can't have vigilantism like this! The police are there to protect and citizens taking the law into their own hands might get others to do so as well. If this happens, they might actually question their betters in parliament or worse start living like a free people instead of the caged, cowed, economic units that are necessary for the aristocracy to live comfortably.

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 7:36 AM  

"the special forces author recommends that the best way to survive an urban attack is to adopt an attacker's mentality, to move, and to act without hesitation."

Cool, man, you finally figured that one out. I learned that on the streets of NYC when I was like eight years old. So like, write a white paper about it or something.

Blogger John Williams July 19, 2016 7:40 AM  

@Doom. White Knights never risk their lives. He's the opposite, the real deal.

@Rho. You want Vox to add another letter to the hierarchy, somewhere between Omega & idiot?

@markku, Bond films have been warning us for decades that SPECTRE is evil.

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 7:43 AM  

I learned that on the streets of NYC when I was like eight years old.

Yes, children who grow up on the mean streets of Noo Yawk City are the functional equivalent of special forces combat veterans.

Well posed, Internet Tough Guy.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 7:44 AM  

artaud wrote:Cool, man, you finally figured that one out. I learned that on the streets of NYC when I was like eight years old. So like, write a white paper about it or something.

So you ARE like that all the time, and not just in the movie threads.

Blogger MATT July 19, 2016 7:52 AM  

And he's Blonde and Blue.

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 8:01 AM  

Cops were basically completely ineffective until 2 guys off the street with motorcycles showed up.

Common everyday people stop attacks.

Cops stand around at a safe distance until the attack is over... then go take pictures and get on tv to tell everyone how brave they are.

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 8:02 AM  

"Well posed, Internet Tough Guy."

Oh for heaven's sake. Level it out a bit, dood. Nah, not an internet tuff guy at all, just a nerd who had to learn a thing or two. (Nobody said anything about functional equivalence, just cognition.) Like I said, for heaven's sake. Didn't really want to, I was more into classical piano, but you don't get to pick yer friends. I kinda thought you would probably detect I was saying a thing just to see who would pile on. Maybe ya even did, but just decided not to. Life is weird.

@Markku: ah, c'mon man. Pull up a chair, have a drink and relax.

Blogger Human Animal July 19, 2016 8:05 AM  

And he's Blonde and Blue.

That's clearly besides the point! Can you stop spinning your narrative for one second so we can have our feelings about the muslim victims of this workplace violence?

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 8:07 AM  

Note also... the man said he acted out of instinct.

Instinct isn't the right word. The right word is "habit". I bet if you talk to people who know him.. they will tell you they aren't surprised by what he did.

Men like this develop habits. Habits of doing the small things so often that when the time for the Big Thing shows up... extraordinary actions come naturally to them.

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 8:09 AM  


Oh for heaven's sake. Level it out a bit, dood.


Do you really think we can't tell when someone is attempting to spin a narrative in order to talk about himself? We've been doing this for a long time, Artaud. If you have something to say about the topic at hand, just say it.

If you just want to strike poses, talk about yourself, or work out your psychological issues, see a therapist.

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 8:10 AM  

"Do you really think we can't tell when someone is attempting to spin a narrative in order to talk about himself?"

wait...

you're not fascinated by the fact that he grew up in New York?

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 8:11 AM  

@Markku: ah, c'mon man. Pull up a chair, have a drink and relax.

I understand what you're trying to do, which is why I defended you in that movie thread. However, it doesn't go over well here. We have so many people here whose actual job is to kill people (I've met some of them) and they are usually quite low-key about it. But that makes it kind of odious when someone postures that way for the comedic effect.

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 8:20 AM  

you're not fascinated by the fact that he grew up in New York?

Every conversation with anyone who spent more than one year in New York City ever: "See, what youze guys don't understand is that me, I'm from Noo YAWK!"

Oh, we understand all right. You would be amazed by what we already understand about you. It's also informative to observe how anyone who spent the first 21 years of their life somewhere else suddenly becomes "a New Yorker" after renting an apartment there for six months.

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 8:21 AM  

" It's also informative to observe how anyone who spent the first 21 years of their life somewhere else suddenly becomes "a New Yorker" after renting an apartment there for six months."

and yet I've got a neighbor from new hamphire who's been in this neighborhood for 50 years and everyone still calls him a yankee.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum July 19, 2016 8:25 AM  

Anyone else worried about the fact that millions of morons with mental illnesses are now coming to the realization that they don't need a gun, all they have to do is rent a U-Haul Truck, and drive it through a crowd at full speed, and they'll kill 50-100+ people?

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 8:32 AM  

@VD: Ah, c'mon man, I made a remark on the sly, it's really not such a Thing. Come and have a drink or a smoke already. Are you partial to tequila? Markku, you come too. You sound like a righteous dude.

@Nate: dood. DOOD. But you join us for a drink too, mate. What's the best bourbon? I have rather pedestrian tastes, but you sound like an expert.


Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 8:37 AM  

Already drinking, and I'm not yet willing to write you off. I'm just saying that it would be in your best interests to drop this particular approach because it's been done so many times before, and universally with bad results. Your claims to moviey kind of inside knowledge ring true to me due to their particulars, so that's a plus.

Blogger S1AL July 19, 2016 8:41 AM  

"moviey" yup, he's been drinking.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 8:42 AM  

Hollywoodsey, moving picturequey, that sort of thing.

Anonymous Elipe July 19, 2016 8:59 AM  

I wish I could be like the motorcycle hero guy in Vox's post here.

I think Nate has it right, it's about habits. What are some good habits to work on in my everyday, boring coder's life?

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 8:59 AM  

"drop this particular approach because it's been done so many times before,"

well if this community (or even just your own good self) finds it tiresome, then consider it dropped. I'm pretty easy that way. I just don't see the specific point. There are people here with illustrious records in engineering, astrophysics, advanced military, and yeah, game design. They don't make a secret of it, and nobody quarrels with them, and yes, it sort of makes them interesting. (It's why I come here, anyway, to hear what interesting smart people have to say.) Me, my work has been translated into twenty or thirty languages, it's just a thing, a fact of life. Is it a problem? I don't see why.

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 9:00 AM  

Ah, c'mon man, I made a remark on the sly, it's really not such a Thing.

There are 15,964 posts and 593,295 Blogger comments alone here. Do you really think I don't know when and how to nip a problem commenter in the bud?

"Sly", "silly", and "jokey" comments are the way those like you dip their toes in the water before acting up. Now have the good sense to understand that you've been recognized and retreat accordingly.

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 9:03 AM  

Me, my work has been translated into twenty or thirty languages, it's just a thing, a fact of life. Is it a problem?

Your work and your accomplishments aren't a problem. Your apparent desire to talk about yourself might be. And striking poses in order to present yourself as superior to others will be, especially if you're going to do it on the basis of geographical location.

Stay on topic and you'll be fine.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 9:04 AM  

Me, my work has been translated into twenty or thirty languages, it's just a thing, a fact of life. Is it a problem? I don't see why.

Taking pride in that particular detail isn't. However, with your comment here I noticed that you are about to make the act general. And that's a bad idea. Don't be a Tiny Tim.

Blogger olaf lee July 19, 2016 9:18 AM  

@Nate I believe it's habits...

Nailed it. Habits come from practice and training. From thinking of worst case scenarios and playing them out in real life like your life depends on it. Industrial plant employees that fight fires are training all the time. It's seeing what needs to be done and acting without having to think. If you have time to think about it you just missed the opportunity to act.

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 9:19 AM  

@VD & Markku --

OK fine, I get the general idea. Even if I don't agree, I see you have a point. Probably logical, and probably also ecological.

So I'll police the perimeter, it's not a huge issue.

Done and dusted.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr July 19, 2016 9:22 AM  

@3 Vox:

Expanding on Vox's comment, you can pick up significant pointers on strategy from SF. Doc Smith had some very insightful comments:

1. There's no "fair" in a serious fight. Fight dirty and win.

2. A properly run battle isn't sporting. It's the application of overwhelming force against a carefully selected succession of weaker opponents.

3. No secret weapon remains so. Expect the enemy to copy it, be ready with a countermeasure when they use it.

4. Command and control are critical force multipliers.

5. The most powerful weapons are those you hold in your head, not your hand.

Blogger MadMax 1861 July 19, 2016 9:23 AM  

Yet another muslim attack in France : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3697451/Mother-three-daughters-aged-8-14-STABBED-French-holiday-resort-scantily-dressed.html

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 9:23 AM  

But, y'know, Bklyn schoolyard rules. If people snap at me, be sure I'll snap back, and I do know how to snap (oh noes, there's that awful NYC thingy again, right?)

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 9:28 AM  

As far as I can tell, you are not yet at the precipice of getting banned. This is just addressing the problem before it becomes chronic. Just be generally straightforward in expressing yourself, and you'll do fine.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 9:41 AM  

Hmm. I'm going to ask you a question that will amuse a certain other moderator. This is not a trick question and there is no wrong answer.

Have you seen David Lynch's Lost Highway, and if you have, what in your opinion is going on with it?

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 9:53 AM  

There can be only one. We're just making absolutely sure he doesn't start shooting from his outhouse.

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 10:03 AM  

@Markku -- hmm, this is getting kind of interesting.

I have to answer your question in sort of a curious roundabout way.

My whole thing about bringing up my NYC background was not some weird ethnocentric boast (sorry, Nate!), it was a sociological matter of what happened to me as a kid which was: I lived in a working-class world and got constantly beat up as a kid in Brooklyn for being an intellectual, a classical pianist, (and a well-known poet and underground cartoonist too, if you can believe that, but I will forgive you if you don't.) And when that happens to you, you learn how to fight back. I didn't want to, I just wanted to sit and play Schumann, but whatcha gonna do? There's an old Irish saying, Never trust a man who's never been punched in the face. Well you can trust me.

VD I'm sure has been punched in the face many times in martial arts training, but was he ever actually been punched in the face in the street? As Joan Rivers used to say, Let's talk.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and the way I learned to drink at age 12 was by playing piano in bars, in return for free drinks. Do some reconnaissance here.

It's a miracle I'm not dead or in jail, let alone that people give me Ivy League degrees and funny-looking fake-gold statues. But if I tell you how a street fight works instead of a dojo sparring match, well.....

Anonymous Shut up rabbit July 19, 2016 10:04 AM  

Markku wrote:Have you seen David Lynch's Lost Highway, and if you have, what in your opinion is going on with it?

Miserable lesbian kills her lover then goes mad and imagines fantasy life as a Hollywood starlet.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 19, 2016 10:06 AM  

@46, I'd like to place a bet.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 10:14 AM  

Miserable lesbian kills her lover then goes mad and imagines fantasy life as a Hollywood starlet.

Wrong movie. Mulholland Drive is easy.

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 10:15 AM  

"What are some good habits to work on in my everyday, boring coder's life?"

What that dude did is the equivalent of hitting a home run to win game 7 in the world series.

You can't start there.

You start where you are... which is small. You start with situational awareness. When you walk into a space practice noticing what is around you. How many coffee mugs are there? Stuff like that.

Start sitting facing the entrance to what ever resturaunt you're in. Pay attention to who's coming and going.

Your brain works hard to turn everything you do into a habit. Use that. when you're driving... practice. you should be able to name exactly what color and kind of cars are around you at all times. Pay attention to how others are driving around you. learn to predict when they will change lanes and stuff like that.

this is all just the fist step. situtational awareness.

Blogger Alexander July 19, 2016 10:15 AM  

I'd like to place a bet as well, and I suspect I'm betting the same way Cail is.

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 10:17 AM  

"(oh noes, there's that awful NYC thingy again, right?)"

dude... seriously... no one cares. I mean that literally. Most of the regular commenters literally shrugged on 9/11.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 10:22 AM  

We all know Vox history, and it involved not just alcohol, but every hard drug on the market. It's a miracle that he is as lucid as he is. Spatial reasoning aside.

Blogger Salt July 19, 2016 10:24 AM  

Artaud's posturing is getting a bit thick and it didn't take much more time than a New York second.

Blogger Josh July 19, 2016 10:26 AM  

It's quite selfish of both Tiny Tim and Artaud that they haven't gone over and killed every single member of ISIS by now.

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 10:28 AM  

Yankees are Cancer. New Yorkers are Pancreatic Cancer.

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 10:29 AM  

But to get back to @Markku regarding Lost Highway...

Lost Highway. Now that's a movie to consider. I used to say that only women could really, truly understand "The Piano," and only men could really, truly understand "Lost Highway."

I'm going to take a detour here. The night before "Blue Velvet" opened I got into an insanely violent fistfight and nearly got killed. It had nothing at all to do with me, my involvement was comically circumstantial. But I knew what it meant to get the shit beat out of you when I saw "Blue Velvet".

Something similar is true about "Lost Highway." As I say I think it's a film only men can understand. When topless Patricia Arquette says "You'll NEVER own me," it's a message, and not an obvious (or feminist) one. It's just a sort of secret message, of the type David Lynch got good at.

His two great masterpieces are "Eraserhead" and "Mulholland Drive." And those are matters for another day.

Blogger Salt July 19, 2016 10:32 AM  

Josh wrote:It's quite selfish of both Tiny Tim and Artaud that they haven't gone over and killed every single member of ISIS by now.

Doing so by hanging underneath a chopper, dual wielding Sigs

Anonymous Jill July 19, 2016 10:33 AM  

I find stories like this both heartening and disappointing at the same time. It's an endless cycle. The good and courageous human spirit that is pro-life and pro-tribe is heartening. The fact that this man had to risk his life because his government sold his tribe out is disappointing. The endless cycle of hope and disappointment in my soul is...I don't quite know what to do with it. It's confusing. My hope rests in God, and yet, my authorities would like to sell my children off to the dark side.

Blogger Josh July 19, 2016 10:35 AM  

Doing so by hanging underneath a chopper, dual wielding Sigs

Nah, you gotta hang an outhouse underneath the chopper and shoot from there.

Anonymous Elipe July 19, 2016 10:37 AM  

I think I see where you're going with that, Nate... that gives me some ideas on what I can do. Thanks.

Anonymous BGKB July 19, 2016 10:37 AM  

Moving is important when dealing with those who evolved in R style environments, especially blacks, because spatial orientation is the part of g weighted IQ tests they do worse on. It is like lag exploiting in a video game. Multiple groids can attack you if you stay still but get in each others way when you move.

Miserable lesbian kills her lover then goes mad and imagines fantasy life as a Hollywood starlet

You don't need to put miserable in front of lesbian, its assumed.

2) Shoot a fucking gun.

Fortune favors the bold. Turns out a cop managed to do just that with a .45 into a .40. http://www.thegunrack.org/index.php?threads/one-in-a-billion-gun-shot.3479/

I learned that on the streets of NYC when I was like eight years old.

I thought 8yo was the "not take candy from guys with big noses" NYC mental milestone.

Every conversation with anyone who spent more than one year in New York City ever:

New York is so provincial all you have to do is sleep with the right people to be a mover/shaker.

Anonymous Jill July 19, 2016 10:39 AM  

"You start with situational awareness. When you walk into a space practice noticing what is around you."
It's incredible how many people are walking around in a bubble without any basic awareness of the world around them. Snapping to the present moment is enormously important and will set you apart from the average dimwit or midwit or whatever. Even high IQ people don't want to have to cope with reality. It's a shame. I'm discouraged by how many people avoid reality through any means they have available to them.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 10:40 AM  

The reason I'm asking is that I believe that there is a relatively simple explanation that can explain the entirety of the movie. No symbolism, just straightforward narrative. What we see, is what actually "happened". I have discussed this theory with a certain other moderator. I'm going to ROT-13 it so that you can't accuse me of spoiling the movie, if I'm right.

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Blogger Josh July 19, 2016 10:41 AM  

He doesn't realize yet his purpose is as a wing chun dummy to make the likes of Josh feel superior.

I'll have you know that none other than the unimpeachable Whitey Whiteman III said I was like the coolest dude here.

Proof:

"Whitey Whiteman III
July 19, 2016 1:40 AM
It's so weird seeing people still be anti-Trump on this board.

Especially, Josh. He was like the coolest dude on here."

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 10:48 AM  

"I thought 8yo was the "not take candy from guys with big noses" NYC mental milestone"

Then you were, and remain, an idiot. Now go listen to "Street Hassle" and get back to me.

"Taxi Driver" was a damn documentary, for those who don't know.

Anonymous BGKB July 19, 2016 10:50 AM  

You start with situational awareness. When you walk into a space practice noticing what is around you. How many coffee mugs are there?

You start with where are all of the exits & where I can sit/be to have a good view. Check out the BulletProof Mind by Dave Grossman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4k96Z4U5E

It's quite selfish of both Tiny Tim and Artaud that they haven't gone over and killed every single member of ISIS by now

Perhaps TRUMP will hire them to retrieve moslems for his new reality show "Can You Garrote More Modlems than a Faggot"

Blogger Alexander July 19, 2016 10:53 AM  

Markku,

If I thought that the references to classical piano were a tell, would I be right?

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 10:57 AM  

"Artaud just believes he and his opinion matters here. He doesn't realize yet his purpose is as a wing chun dummy "

Tiny Tim is starting to get it.

He's still confused though. A dog doesn't gnaw a chew toy because it strokes his ego. That's the kind of shit moron liberals say. The dog gnaws the chew toy because he's a dog... and its a chew toy.

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 10:58 AM  

If I'm right, it's a tertiary clue at best. There is really one visual clue that makes the connection absolutely, blatantly obvious. Piano could fit the hypothesis, but not that hypothesis exclusively.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 19, 2016 11:04 AM  

Nate wrote:Cops were basically completely ineffective until 2 guys off the street with motorcycles showed up.

Common everyday people stop attacks.

Cops stand around at a safe distance until the attack is over... then go take pictures and get on tv to tell everyone how brave they are.


Wait! Muh Thin Blue Line of Serve and Protect!

When seconds count, we learned in Orlando, the police are hours away.

Anonymous artaud July 19, 2016 11:07 AM  

"The reason I'm asking is that I believe that there is a relatively simple explanation that can explain the entirety of the movie. No symbolism, just straightforward narrative."

Could be. I wouldn't discount it. Phrases I have heard in my life which you will never hear...

"Martin Scorsese is at the next table, and he would like to meet you."

"Steven is ready to see you now."

"Jim thinks he's got the thing figured out. Can you talk about it?"

I think Lost Highway is a weirdly interesting movie, and I'm curious to hear what else you think about it, because my own thoughts about it are sort of chthonic, and thus not subject to rational discourse. I'm a bit of a nut on that one. What else do you think?

"YOU TALK TOO MUCH
TO YOUR SCAPEGOAT!!
THAT'S WHAT I SAAAY!
HE TELLS YOU
EVERYONE IS STUPID!!
THAT'S WHAT HE THIIINKS!!"
SNAPSHOTS
MAKE A GIRL LOOK CHEAP....."

-- Jane's Addiction, late 80s.
I think they were on to something, like Lynch.


Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 19, 2016 11:09 AM  

Artaud,

How many times have you been punched in the face, and how young were you when you received your first dose of chin music?

Blogger Markku July 19, 2016 11:11 AM  

Not really much else that I could put in writing, except that there are only two movies I can think of where the opening credits manage to set the tone of the movie in as sublime a way: That, and Irréversible.

Anonymous Tawmmy From Quinzee July 19, 2016 11:15 AM  

"As far as Trump, I do have the distinction of accurately predicting the rise and coronation of Trump well before any others on here. That cannot be denied."

NO ONE DENIES THIS!!!

Blogger Salt July 19, 2016 11:17 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Artaud,

How many times have you been punched in the face


How long were his lights out for?

Anonymous Jack Amok July 19, 2016 11:30 AM  

It's also informative to observe how anyone who spent the first 21 years of their life somewhere else suddenly becomes "a New Yorker" after renting an apartment there for six months.

They might even be more New Yorker than a native born New Yorker.

Anonymous Rolf July 19, 2016 11:35 AM  

When I first saw the title, I thought you being ironic and were going to talk about Bono.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 19, 2016 11:44 AM  

Elipe wrote:I wish I could be like the motorcycle hero guy in Vox's post here.

I think Nate has it right, it's about habits. What are some good habits to work on in my everyday, boring coder's life?


Do stupid shit that will get you hurt. Even something as metrosexual as mountain biking on trails will force your body to act, not freeze.

Freezing is normal; I still have a hard time orienting when a covey of quail flush at my feet.

Blogger Josh July 19, 2016 11:44 AM  



How long were his lights out for?


Did he have four lights or five lights?

Blogger Roger G2 July 19, 2016 11:45 AM  

That sounds like some IRL Terminator chase scene stuff, to be sure. That man has balls made of steel!

Blogger Josh July 19, 2016 11:48 AM  

Could be. I wouldn't discount it. Phrases I have heard in my life which you will never hear...

"Steven is ready to see you now."

"Jim thinks he's got the thing figured out. Can you talk about it?"


You are correct. Most of us will never get to work with luminaries like Steven Scarborough and Jim Steel. Except maybe BGKB.

Anonymous Rolf July 19, 2016 11:57 AM  

@30 - Sometimes it is the area, sometimes it's the person.

I grew up in Alaska (wasn't born there, but moving there at ~2 I don't remember the previous home at all), and think of myself as an Alaskan even though I've not lived there for a long time. When my kids visit, they fit right in attitude and activity-wise.

Some folks move to AK and blend in, and are Alaskan in outlook and MO very quickly; others move there and live there for a decade, but they are still an outsider in attitude, so they are "Alaskan" (citizenship), but not Alaskan!. From what I've heard (no experience there myself) of New England, it's largely the town culture that defines anyone who doesn't have three generations there as a newcomer, and the further west or south you go it's more about the attitude you carry with you and ways you adopt.

What's ironic is that the urban liberals who demand everyone else already in America change to their way of thinking, and refuse to change themselves, are the ones who push the Magic Dirt theory of immigration so vigorously. Go figure. Will be interesting to see how fast things change when the stack of bodies gets piled high enough.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 19, 2016 12:09 PM  

BGKB wrote:2) Shoot a fucking gun.

Fortune favors the bold. Turns out a cop managed to do just that with a .45 into a .40. http://www.thegunrack.org/index.php?threads/one-in-a-billion-gun-shot.3479/


In hindsight it's not that surprising,the pistol shoots where you look.

You orient to the danger; i.e. look at the other guy's pistol.

You shoot the pistol.

Blogger Shimshon July 19, 2016 12:15 PM  

@69 Markku is that ROT13 or Finnish?

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 12:24 PM  

VD I'm sure has been punched in the face many times in martial arts training, but was he ever actually been punched in the face in the street?

No. Because "street fighters" are clueless idiots who don't know how to fight. I have a) broken a nose then locked up, b) put a man's face into a brick wall, c) bounced a man off a wall, then swept his feet and knocked the wind out of him, d) had both my hands and forearms covered in the other guy's blood, all either in the street or in a nightclub, but I've never actually had anyone touch me. And I don't know a single full-contact fighter who was ever touched, let alone harmed, in an altercation involving less than 3-on-1 odds.

Meanwhile, I've been knocked out in the ring, had my nose broken in the ring, and had 13 other bones broken in the ring.

So drop the stupid New York City tough guy act. Kimbo Slice was a good example of what happens when even the biggest, toughest street fighter goes up against a trained full-contact fighter. The average full-contact fighter has hundreds of hours more experience and dozens more available techniques than a street fighter.

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 12:27 PM  

"Martin Scorsese is at the next table, and he would like to meet you."

"Steven is ready to see you now."

"Jim thinks he's got the thing figured out. Can you talk about it?"


No one cares. That's enough. Go away now.

Anonymous G-hunter July 19, 2016 12:51 PM  

Trust the gamma to shift the focus from someone else's heroics to his own.

Blogger Patrikbc July 19, 2016 1:11 PM  

Well, now I kind of want to know who it is, I bet it would be deliciously underwhelming.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 19, 2016 1:12 PM  

You know, growing up on the mean streets of Seattle, well, the Seattle suburbs, I got beaten up a couple of times. that's why I an expert on urban combat.

Anonymous Spartacus xxxxx July 19, 2016 1:13 PM  

Roger G2 wrote:That sounds like some IRL Terminator chase scene stuff, to be sure. That man has balls made of steel!

Have a look at the video at the link VD provided. This is epic. Better than Terminator II. No casting, no rehearsal, no director. One take.

Anonymous BGKB July 19, 2016 1:18 PM  

will never get to work with luminaries like Steven Scarborough and Jim Steel. Except maybe BGKB.

I don't get invited to many cocaine snorting parties anymore, after people suspected me of narcing out a regular one for underage kids. Stupid bastard had a guy on probation living with him as a roommate so his HIGH TIMES legal defense plan couldn't work.

Anonymous Gunnutmegger July 19, 2016 1:18 PM  

@VD

"And neither you nor anyone else has a gun on them at all times."

If you make up your mind to not let yourself be unarmed, you can be armed with a gun or have a gun within 3 feet of you virtually 24/7. Even when swimming: a small .22 revolver in a Ziploc bag will fit into a Thunderwear holster under baggy swim trunks.

Exceptions would be places like courtrooms and police departments, but how often does any of us truly need to be there?

Anonymous myself July 19, 2016 1:21 PM  

Vox,

Just started lurking here about six months ago. I enjoy your blog, especially the comment section. I searched for both TWBW 11 and RTRH 2. I was unable to find them. I assume they are blogs. I have been made aware of other interesting blogs from here. Could you or another commentator provide more details and possibly a link? Please and thank you. I realize that you spam anonymous comments.

Anonymous Stickwick July 19, 2016 1:24 PM  

Markku, there is a simple explanation for our new friend -- he's a waiter in NYC.

"Martin Scorsese is at the next table, and he would like to place his order."

"Steven is ready to order now."

"Jim thinks he's got his order figured out. Can you take it?"

Blogger VD July 19, 2016 1:25 PM  

Trust the gamma to shift the focus from someone else's heroics to his own.

His own imaginary heroics.

Blogger Nate July 19, 2016 1:25 PM  

"And neither you nor anyone else has a gun on them at all times."

For all practical purposes I have a gun on me... or within arms reach 24/7

Anonymous Azimus July 19, 2016 1:27 PM  

May God protect Alexander Migues and provide him with many, many sons by an appropriately thankful and beautiful woman.

I could wish they hadn't named him though, much less shown his picture. For his own safety.

Anonymous Azimus July 19, 2016 1:32 PM  

Personally I would like to see one of those 3D CGI simulations of the event - in particular, where all the police were and what their actions were before two civilians who had no training, were unarmed, and didn't know each other managed to stop the killing rampage without their assistance...

Blogger jeaux b July 19, 2016 1:33 PM  

I was thinking maybe he could be someone the French people might rally around. Especially if he spoke out. He certainly has the credibility.

Anonymous BGKB July 19, 2016 2:16 PM  

I could wish they hadn't named him though, much less shown his picture. For his own safety.

Headline "Man injured falling off top of pile of dead didndus"

Even when swimming: a small .22 revolver in a Ziploc bag will fit into a Thunderwear holster under baggy swim trunks

You are pretty safe from didndus when you are in the water.

3D CGI simulations of the event - in particular, where all the police were and what their actions

The Pulse nightclub was right next to a Dunkin Donuts but that didn't help at all.

Anonymous andon July 19, 2016 2:41 PM  

102. Blogger jeaux b July 19, 2016 1:33 PM
I was thinking maybe he could be someone the French people might rally around. Especially if he spoke out. He certainly has the credibility.


maybe if he said something like "MOOSLIMS GTFO OF MY COUNTRY!!!"

Blogger Brian Niemeier July 19, 2016 2:59 PM  

A movie buff friend of mine once told me this story about Lost Highway. I can't confirm it, but it lends credence to Markku's theory.

The story goes that David Lynch had written himself into a corner and was mulling over ideas between rounds of drinks.

A stranger pulled up a bar stool and asked what was eating him. Lynch tried to explain the difficulties he was having expressing his vision.

In the middle of this spiel, the guy took a napkin that Lynch had sketched a hasty outline on and folded it into a tube so the beginning touched the end.

"Here," he said. "Do it like this."

Lynch stared slack-jawed at the napkin tube for a beat, paid for his and his amateur script doctor's drinks, went home and finished the screenplay.

Anonymous Filsta July 19, 2016 3:18 PM  

He's defending his tribe as a whole. He is a K-type individual and a defender of his tribe. It's plain to see in his account that he was acting just on instinct, how he couldn't understand how he did it he just did.

You, on the other hand, are a R-type individual: where your primary concern is flight and the survival of your own skin over your tribe. You don't have an in group preference and it's clear in your response.

I don't agree with conflating the criminal global elites and saving innocent families from slaughter. I know which man I'd want standing beside me in a war, and I know which man I wouldn't.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 19, 2016 6:11 PM  

@artuad, but if someone glues a beard on your face can you pass as Orson Welles?

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 19, 2016 6:20 PM  

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Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 19, 2016 7:11 PM  

With the indulgence of the mods, I’d like to tease out this “shoot the driver” idea.

@3 VD A handgun is not going to stop a 19-ton truck, moron. And neither you nor anyone else has a gun on them at all times.

Replied to here:

@96 If you make up your mind to not let yourself be unarmed, you can be armed with a gun or have a gun within 3 feet of you virtually 24/7.

First:
For sure nobody in France except the cops and the jihadi were armed. I don’t have to thrash the irony in that out further. The men that did stop him are heroes. We should all take notes, because mindset is the primary tool of fighting.

Second:
Let’s toss the movie crap out and think about this seriously. There’s lots of street events in the US and some people are indeed armed any time they are awake. So what does a truck-as-weapon look like driving down MyMainStreet on July 4th?

The jihadi truck was reported at various speeds, 30 MPH seems like a pretty good estimate. That’s 48 KPH. The road was curved but, eh, lots of places have straight roads.

So your at some street fair, some holiday event, some farmer’s market, and you’re armed with a pistol, because that’s how you are.

All right, depending on your situational awareness…(See Nate’s note @53) and the tents / food wagons / band shells / banners / etc. you notice a truck moving way too fast at some point. If you are good at situational awareness, maybe at some distance like 330 yards / 300 meters, or maybe not until 100 yeards / 100 meters (approx.). If you have your head down in an exhibit or a food booth, maybe not until the screams alert you when the truck is 50 yards / 50 meters away.

I don’t want to get into a pissing match but nobody is taking a pistol shot at 300 meters, nor at 100 meters. Very few people even have a clue where to aim at even 50 meters but some do, and maybe others could fake it under stress. Maybe.

Anonymous Millenium July 19, 2016 7:30 PM  

Do not expect the police to help: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/07/16/exclusive-french-police-hung-up-on-bataclan-massacre-victim/

@Nate and other experts: What is the second step after developing awareness? I used to be a security guard and already have spatial awareness.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 19, 2016 7:46 PM  

Part 2
30 MPH = 44 feet / second or 13.4 meters / second

That truck moves 100 meters in 6.8 seconds, or 50 meters in 3.4 seconds.

Someone who is really trained and who practices can draw and fire two shots in under 2 seconds at a man sized target 7 meters away, about the same to 15 meters away. On a square range, on a good day.

So unless you’re Jerry Miculek, at best you're going to get 1 to 4 shots off before the truck gets close enough to kill you and it’s time to move even starting from 100 meters away. From 50 meters? 1 or 2 shots, max.

So take the shot or not? In the USA the ordinary citizen is going to own every round he fires in public. Just shooting in the general direction of that truck? Forget it, whatever your bullets hit, you own. Better not be some human being other than the jihadi.

But you know your gun, shoot regularly, can make hits at 50 or more meters, and you’re gonna do it. Well, ok. You’re possibly shooting from the middle of a panicked crowd, remember.

So IF nobody grabs your arm or runs into you or tackles you or pops up in front of you, and IF you can make those hits on that target coming right at you and IF your carry load performs well against windshield glass then maybe you put 1 or 2 or even 3 holes in the glass in front of the jihadi driving.

Maybe you shoot a Golden BB that hits him in the right eye. Bam!

Maybe your round bounces off of the rim of the cap he’s wearing. The glass spalling off of the windshield might distract him, a hit might distract him even if he’s in body armor. Or they might all wind up in the windshield wipers.

A man’s got to know his limitations. Notice I assumed the truck coming straight at you? That’s the easiest shot, trying to hit something moving at an angle or left to right is much more difficult and frankly I can’t imagine it would be worth the risk.

This isn’t the movies where pistol ammo punches holes in bulldozer blades. This is reality where handguns are really pretty puny weapons. I hope that I’ve made clear just how difficult that shot would be to take.

The best way to stop a truck? With an obstacle, as all public buildings now have. Another truck, some construction equipment, a large private vehicle like a Yukon or airport shuttle bus.

Or, as we saw, two men with guts and the tools at hand.

I thank the mods for their indulgence.

Blogger Rusty Fife July 19, 2016 8:01 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Notice I assumed the truck coming straight at you? That’s the easiest shot, trying to hit something moving at an angle or left to right is much more difficult

To train the mind to shoot crossing shots; shoot skeet. They are travelling 46 to 49mph.

Blogger JCclimber July 19, 2016 8:30 PM  

Well, as scooter riders, they were constantly exercising their situational awareness.

I've noticed over the time that I've been riding during commute hours that I can predict with high certainty which cars have the following:
- likely to "accidentally" drift in their lane to block me or hit me with their car or mirror
- spacing out on their cell phone
- about to change lanes without signaling
- generally clueless
- likely to pull to the side of their lane so I can split (legal in California)

This thread now has me wondering how often I am adjusting my riding based on the observations above without even being aware of it anymore.

So, general question: How difficult is it to develop your situational awareness if there is very little likelihood of danger?

Blogger Rusty Fife July 19, 2016 8:39 PM  

JCclimber wrote:So, general question: How difficult is it to develop your situational awareness if there is very little likelihood of danger?

Danger adds the spice to keep it interesting.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 20, 2016 2:18 AM  

@44 MadMax 1861
Yet another muslim attack in France :
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All of these are in a new light after recently reading Caliphate

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