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Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Best of Gab

Stickwick gets my vote today for this response to a Nature request:
"Are you a working scientist who plans to vote for Donald Trump? We want to talk to you."

About what, fast-tracking the fiery death of your career? If Nature is surprised by a lack of response, they should read Scott Adams.

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45 Comments:

Anonymous krymneth September 28, 2016 9:34 PM  

Similarly, on Reddit's r/the_donald...

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus September 28, 2016 9:59 PM  

I've said it before, but I'll say it again: Stickwick is a good egg.

Blogger Vi M September 28, 2016 10:06 PM  

"Are you a working scientist who plans to vote for Donald Trump? We want to talk to you."

"...in the woodshed", they forgot to add.

Blogger F. Brown September 28, 2016 10:18 PM  

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Blogger F. Brown September 28, 2016 10:20 PM  

Krymneth

When I first saw that I immediately thought "this guy definitely reads vox."

Anonymous ben September 28, 2016 10:24 PM  

If Nature is surprised by a lack of response, they should fuck off.

Anonymous ben September 28, 2016 10:26 PM  

"This guy" is my sister.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 28, 2016 10:29 PM  

Did you guys see this about Reddit
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/90800338/reddit-owners-going-to-jail

Anonymous bob just September 28, 2016 10:32 PM  

Nature as most of you know is an English journal. Phillip Campbell is the editor, perhaps responsible for

http://www.nature.com/news/brexit-uk-should-remain-1.20082

Sure, no globalist is he.

Blogger D. September 28, 2016 11:05 PM  

>Living within the truth, as humanity's revolt against an enforced position, is, on the contrary, an attempt to regain control over one's own sense of responsibility. In other words, it is clearly a moral act, not only because one must pay so dearly for it, but principally because it is not self-serving: the risk may bring rewards in the form of a general amelioration in the situation, or it may not. In this regard, as I stated previously, it is an all-or-nothing gamble, and it is difficult to imagine a reasonable person embarking on such a course merely because he reckons that sacrifice today will bring rewards tomorrow, be it only in the form of general gratitude. (By the way, the representatives of power invariably come to terms with those who live within the truth by persistently ascribing utilitarian motivations to them-a lust for power or fame or wealth-and thus they try, at least, to implicate them in their own world, the world of general demoralization.)

If living within the truth in the post-totalitarian system becomes the chief breeding ground for independent, alternative political ideas, then all considerations about the nature and future prospects of these ideas must necessarily reflect this moral dimension as a political phenomenon. (And if the revolutionary Marxist belief about morality as a product of the "superstructure" inhibits any of our friends from realizing the full significance of this dimension and, in one way or another, from including it in their view of the world, it is to their own detriment: an anxious fidelity to the postulates of that world view prevents them from properly understanding the mechanisms of their own political influence, thus paradoxically making them precisely what they, as Marxists, so often suspect others of being—victims of "false consciousness.") The very special political significance of morality in the post-totalitarian system is a phenomenon that is at the very least unusual in modern political history, a phenomenon that might well have-as I shall soon attempt to show—far-reaching consequences.<

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Anonymous pseudotsuga September 28, 2016 11:24 PM  

If only we could know if they are exhibiting good faith, and on the level about....nah, who are they kidding? Their smiles don't hide the fangs, and the gloves can't cover the claws.
And when they say "scientist," do they refer to the same types of "working scientists" who sign those "global warming is REAL!" petitions? you know, all those social scientists and grievance studies and economists and such like?

Anonymous Stickwick September 28, 2016 11:28 PM  

I sincerely hope none of my colleagues is foolish enough to respond to this request. Unless it's someone who's on the verge of retirement and doesn't give a rat's backside.

Thanks to Vox for highlighting the importance of refusing to engage the mainstream media on controversial topics -- or on any topic, if you're a controversial figure. It's always tempting to give your two cents when someone seems genuinely interested, but we've seen how it usually goes. And even when the motive is benign, outing yourself as holding a politically unpopular view isn't likely to advance your academic career.

Blogger Thucydides September 28, 2016 11:38 PM  

We want to talk to you, because when the Year Zero is declared, we cans swiftly round up all you class traitors and counterrevolutionaries, breakers and malcontents and send you to farms and labour camps where you can be re educated and repent before sacrificing your lives to the Revolution.

What makes this actually funny is even though the people at Nature may believe they will be in charge when the glorious revolution finally bursts upon us, they will simply be herded up against the wall by tougher, smarter and more vicious revolutionaries.

Perhaps they will take a moment to wonder what went wrong with their plan before their brains are splattered over the pavement.

Or not.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky September 28, 2016 11:53 PM  

Perfect reaction from Stckwick. How Soviet and Orwellian we are becoming!

Blogger bob k. mando September 28, 2016 11:56 PM  

12. Stickwick September 28, 2016 11:28 PM
I sincerely hope none of my colleagues is foolish enough to respond to this request.



you know how we know that you haven't yet graduated to full Shitlord status, Stickwick?

because you didn't suggest to Nature that they interview Melissa Glick and her need for 'muscle'.

Blogger papabear September 29, 2016 12:04 AM  

Shouldn't that be Shitlady status?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents September 29, 2016 12:27 AM  

@15
because you didn't suggest to Nature that they interview Melissa Glick and her need for 'muscle'.

That's Melissa Click former communications prof who claimed in the Chronicle of Higher Education that she was fired for being white.

No. I did not make any of that up.

Anonymous Clay September 29, 2016 12:38 AM  

Stickwick? What's a Stickwick?

I never heard of no Stickwick.

Anonymous Discard September 29, 2016 12:52 AM  

I just read that James Watson, Nobel Laureate and purveyor of hate facts, is going to sell his Nobel Prize, which is apparently a big round gold medal on a ribbon. I guess he needs the money after being thrown to the wolves ten years ago. No doubt some rich Chinaman will buy it and it will be hung like a scalp over his banquet table.

I fucking hate "science".

Blogger psychegram September 29, 2016 12:55 AM  

Top kek, Stickwick.

Working scientist here. Not a snowball's chance in hell I will respond to that obvious bait. Maybe if I had tenure...? Naw. We all understand that academic freedom applies only to those who bravely speak lies for power.

Blogger psychegram September 29, 2016 12:59 AM  

@19 That's a bit obsolete. Watson sold his Nobel years ago. He was actually recently given it back by the nice Russian oligarch who purchased it. So unless he's selling it a second time...? Which on second thought, given he's been rendered fully destitute by the IFLScience crowd, is entirely possible.

Anonymous map September 29, 2016 1:25 AM  

OT: worth a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14GvS9O0zhY

Blogger SQT September 29, 2016 1:36 AM  

I must have some sort of odor about me- I have applied to Gab under two emails and haven't heard anything yet.

I'm missing all the good dialogue. :(

Anonymous Discard September 29, 2016 2:13 AM  

21. psychegram: I just read it yesterday, so he may be selling it a second time. And kudos to the Russian who bought it and gave it back. A fucking Russian oligarch has more decency than America's scientists. Human vivisection sounds more appealing every day.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky September 29, 2016 2:18 AM  

psychegram, tenure doesn't protect you. Only them. They will find a way.

Blogger weka September 29, 2016 5:18 AM  

@25. Nothing protects you from the credentialed midwit mob that makes up the senior common room.

Hence Nature cannot find a conservative nor a Calvinist.

Anonymous SciVo September 29, 2016 5:41 AM  

One of the interesting things about the AirSpace tribe is how unconscious they are of being a tribe, since part of their tribal identity is being universal (which is gnostically solipsistic). So they're incredibly narrow-minded, deeply prejudiced, and harshly punitive against outsiders -- and completely in denial about it.

I can picture them loading the native whites off of boxcars with cattle prods, "Now please don't try to cross these clearly marked lines? Because that would result in things that are not good." Followed shortly by, "So, to explain what is happening now? This machine will image your brain and then use pinpoint lasers to destroy just the bad part that causes you to resist goodness. It's been scientifically proven to be really humane in most of the cases, with minor side effects that we totally have treatments for. Now I'm going to address the elephant in the room? You should ignore the screaming; they're just being irrational, this device is very reliable, and I promise you won't feel a thing."

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid September 29, 2016 5:47 AM  

To any non-lefto in academia, Nature's request reads, "We'd like you to cut your own head off on live TV for our lulz, please."

Anonymous SciVo September 29, 2016 5:49 AM  

I just realized that probably somewhere an SJW read my satire and creamed his shorts.

Blogger Lovekraft September 29, 2016 6:14 AM  

This may be reflective of the desperation converged organizations are feeling. Since anyone with a modicum of self-respect would avoid aiding these people, the numbers are drying up.

Of course, the public schools have forced attendance for now.

Blogger Jeff Wood September 29, 2016 6:17 AM  

I recall from a few lifetimes ago, that British magazine racks were interesting places, and Nature was one of the most interesting publications there.

Now, neither point is true.

Blogger Lovekraft September 29, 2016 6:17 AM  

@23: I must have some sort of odor about me- I have applied to Gab under two emails and haven't heard anything yet.

Patience. It took a few weeks to get on. Started at #45000 or so. Still getting used to it. Not sure how to follow the things with the "#" in front.

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 29, 2016 6:37 AM  

Proof that no scientists will be voting for Trump.

Blogger Desillusionerad September 29, 2016 6:39 AM  

In regards to academic freedom:
http://www.thecrimson.com/column/the-red-line/article/2014/2/18/academic-freedom-justice/
"If our university community opposes racism, sexism, and heterosexism, why should we put up with research that counters our goals simply in the name of “academic freedom”?

Instead, I would like to propose a more rigorous standard: one of “academic justice.” When an academic community observes research promoting or justifying oppression, it should ensure that this research does not continue."

Yes, because if we don't know fact A, fact A, will stop being a thing.
We all know the only reason, Africa is a shit hole, is because we know its a shit hole, if we were to pretend it wasn't it wouldn't be.
This is not head in the sand + magical thinking no.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 29, 2016 7:51 AM  

"They" know which side they're on. The clock winds down on this antebellum period and "they" drop their pretense of objectivity in favor of revealing their true colors.

Why speak with Tokyo Rose?

Blogger bob k. mando September 29, 2016 9:08 AM  

17. A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents September 29, 2016 12:27 AM
who claimed in the Chronicle of Higher Education that she was fired for being white.

No. I did not make any of that up.



of course you didn't make that up.

because Click is absolutely correct; no google would have been fired for doing what she did.

this is how you KNOW that their true nature is fundamentally deceitful; they have no issues observing the Truth WHEN IT SUITS THEIR PURPOSE.

Blogger Duke Norfolk September 29, 2016 10:15 AM  

What is Stickwick's Gab handle? I get nothing when searching.

Blogger Quadko September 29, 2016 10:43 AM  

Bravo! That deserves some Monty Python "How not to be seen": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTQYEkIvN2M

Anonymous Elipe September 29, 2016 10:52 AM  

Even on benign topics, do your best to avoid talking to journalists, media people, basically anyone whose job description involves getting your opinion on anything. Unless you know with absolute certainty the journalist is ideologically on your side (i.e. not the MSM).

I was approached to do an interview in college once for an extracurricular activity I was running at the time. It was completely benign: there was nothing at all political about the activity. There was just nothing to lie about. And still, I was horrendously misquoted on a lot of things.

"Journalist ethics" is bullshit that has never existed since the birth of the profession. They'll write what they want and torture your words to fit into what they wanted to write anyway.

Anonymous BGKB September 29, 2016 10:53 AM  

If you think nuke winter is a bigger threat than global warming, boy will you be surprised when NYC is underwater in 2015.

Did you guys see this about Reddit

CEO FAGGOT erasing data that would hurt HilLIARy not surprising, Redlit CEO not knowing you have to overwrite data or erased data is easy to recover screams affirmative action.

former communications prof who claimed in the Chronicle of Higher Education that she was fired for being white.

That's possibly a legitimate complaint. There was a Pitt University Spanish prof who was fired for failing wetbacks. If every there was a place wetbacks should have equality or privilege it should be college Spanish, but it turned out the prof lived in Spain for years.

22. map OT: worth a look: We talked about her reading and touching both sides of her nose like baseball signals in the debate thread. A fat version of Wolf blitzer ran up to get her notes when TRUMP walked toward her podium after it was over areound 1:35. She also had an infusion pump or other device on her back.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 29, 2016 11:31 AM  

You guys can't talk about Click without me dropping this link
http://sjwlist.com/Melissa_Click

Did you know there was another Click-like character that appeared - I don't believe this one was ever identified
http://sjwlist.com/The_New_Melissa_Click

A couple fun memes:
https://i.imgflip.com/1bga5w.jpg
https://i.imgflip.com/u4zte.jpg

Anonymous Flavia September 29, 2016 12:03 PM  

He sold it to a Russian who handed it right back to him. The Russian was pissed at the way Watson was treated by the establishment.

Anonymous Flavia September 29, 2016 12:13 PM  

Another Nature tweet
https://mobile.twitter.com/NatureNews/status/781411993194471424

Where to put the next billion people? With a photo of a Midwestern suburb bordering a cornfield.

I hope you don't think nice white neighborhoods will still exist in the near future.

Anonymous Discard September 29, 2016 1:41 PM  

42. Flavia: A Russian, not an American, had the decency. Maybe they remember Lysenko and the pitfalls of politically directed science.

Anonymous Stickwick September 29, 2016 2:40 PM  

Duke Norfolk: What is Stickwick's Gab handle? I get nothing when searching.

Here ya go.

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