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Thursday, September 29, 2016

Of Alt-Right and Alt-Retard

Clearly Greg Johnson and I neglected to discuss one particularly minor strain of the Alt-Right, the Alt-Retard.

Vox Day joins Milo in the dumpster for self-promoting morons hijacking the work of others. #TrashDay #WR #altright


When the flea on the tip of the tail thinks it is wagging the dog, that's the #AltRetard branch of the #AltRight. The Alt-Retards are so ideologically incoherent and inept that to call them incompetent would be giving them too much credit. Setting aside the fact that they clearly fail to understand my position, they appear to genuinely believe that the ALTernative RIGHT can be national SOCIALIST. Yes, because that's exactly what all the conservatives and libertarians disgusted with the cuckservatism of the Republican establishment concerning immigration are demanding, more socialism, the return of Alsace-Lorraine, and the invasion of Poland.

The #AltRetard aren't a viable alternative for the obvious reason that they are not even of the political Right.

Their lack of intelligence can be seen in their decision to declare war on Milo... and now they want to draw the baleful eye of the Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil upon themselves as well? So be it. That worked out great for the Hugos, after all.

The ridiculous thing about this is that it's totally unnecessary to John Birch either Milo or me from the Alt-Retard. Neither Milo nor I ever belonged to it, or claimed to belong to it, and we don't want anything to do with them, their finger-painting, or their swastika panties. The Alt-Retard is the idiot branch of the Alt-White, which unfortunately does make them part of the Alt-Right despite their ideological incoherency, but then, every village needs its idiot.

The amusingly stupid thing isn't that the Alt-Retard thinks they can own a #hashtag. Many others have made that mistake before them. What is remarkable is that they think they can defend this nonexistent ownership of the hashtag from known #GGers while simultaneously being terrified of cooption. Because, as anyone who has read SJWAL knows, #GamerGate refined the art of taking over enemy #hashtags.



We tried? Darlings, we haven't even begun to try. We hadn't even thought about trying until you just couldn't leave us alone. You'll know we've at least put in a modicum of effort when you're falling all over yourselves desperately trying to escape the labels we have applied to you. In the meantime, this comment on Gab cracked me up.

Prometheus Bound @Deucalion
@voxday Can you go one month without getting "purged" from something?

Apparently not. Anyhow, VFM on Gab and Twitter, you now know the correct hashtag for these losers. They want to babble about branding, well, they've just been branded. A Gab response from /pol/:

ULTRAHARDCORE@ULTRAHARDCORE
While I do still think some concern about co-option of the #AltRight is valid, especially with Milo given his modicum of fame and his connections with Breitbart, I have to say @voxday's labeling certain elements as #AltRetard is not only funny but apt as well. 

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Blogger Matt September 29, 2016 7:56 AM  

Well at least they got your hairline right.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 8:01 AM  

At this rate, Milo will be appointed Bill O'Reilly's successor and I'll end up with a radio show following Hannity.

Blogger Nate September 29, 2016 8:01 AM  

Gab STILL hasn't emailed me.

***FUME***

Anonymous WinstonWebb September 29, 2016 8:06 AM  

Nate September 29, 2016 8:01 AM
Gab STILL hasn't emailed me.


Same here.

***ZEN***

Anonymous Patron September 29, 2016 8:06 AM  

When the flea on the tip of the tail thinks it is wagging the dog, that's the #AltRetard branch of the #AltRight. The Alt-Retards are so ideologically incoherent and inept that to call them incompetent would be giving them too much credit.

Avalanche had it right yesterday:

OMG! You mean they're Republicans?!?!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 29, 2016 8:09 AM  

If you can't hate a "gay jew" who can you hate these days?

This movement is fucking bullshit, I'm taking my swastika and going home to momma. And fuck you.

If you can figure out how to make them useful you truly are a miracle worker

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey September 29, 2016 8:12 AM  

LOL @ that cartoon. Too funny.

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 29, 2016 8:16 AM  

Meh... I was #64,000 something in the Gab queue something 7 days ago.  If I don't get anything by the 7th I'll be concerned.

"They were patient, willing to wait...."

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 29, 2016 8:17 AM  

Alt-Retard is a big tent. These guys are Alt-Racetards.

Blogger Shimshon September 29, 2016 8:19 AM  

"The Alt-Retards are so ideologically incoherent and inept that to call them incompetent would be giving them too much credit."

Vox, I think the phrase you are looking for is, "Not even wrong."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

OpenID aew51183 September 29, 2016 8:22 AM  

So apparently they successfully ran the "muh ethics" gambit against the alt-right.

Now instead of a united front a dozen labels are fighting against one another and Vox Populi has become a National Review, 'reading out' people from the movement.

This mindset is a mental trap. I urge those sinking in it to extract themselves while they can. The enemies of western civilization are too numerous, too well-funded, and too organized to allow any opposing camps to in-fight.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 8:23 AM  

I really hope the AltRight doesn't take this bait. This whole idiotic episode just needs to die. Let Milo fag out if he wants; let VD pursue his AltWest project; let the AltRight keep memeing gas chambers. We all need to just do our own thing. No one is trying to tell VD to become a Nazi, and no one should be telling the Nazis to become classical liberals. We're winning here people, why go and fuck with a winning formula? I won't support any attacks on VD from the AltRight or vice versa. Everyone here should make the same pledge.

Blogger SemiSpook37 September 29, 2016 8:23 AM  

VD wrote:At this rate, Milo will be appointed Bill O'Reilly's successor and I'll end up with a radio show following Hannity.

Can it replace Hannity? Not for nothing, but when all of this is done, he's going to go back to his usual, cuck-lieutenant self (which is the primary reason I stopped listening).

Then again, would you be up for 6 hours if it replaced Hannity AND Levin? That or a tag-team with Milo? Sounds like a good idea, and probably pretty entertaining.

OpenID lastsamurai768 September 29, 2016 8:25 AM  

Yes, people like you were specifically referred to as "mud blood" by the alt-retards, who seem to be coming out of the woodwork. This was on a certain forum whose flagship podcast you had appeared on. They throw a hissy fit anytime someone with less than 100% pure Aryan blood is mildly successful and threatens what they perceive as their rightful place at the top. They want to claim that they and only they are the alt-right while denying anyone without their purity membership. Why they can't see how that limits membership to a tiny minority of people that will be easily marginalized as they start throwing their purity tantrums is anyone's guess.

Blogger Shimshon September 29, 2016 8:26 AM  

OT: Commodore 64, the cockroach of the computing world.

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-old-ass-commodore-64-is-still-being-used-to-run-an-1787196319

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 8:27 AM  

I won't support any attacks on VD from the AltRight or vice versa. Everyone here should make the same pledge.

I start nothing. I finish everything. If they leave me alone, I'm happy to leave them alone. If they won't, they'll truly merit their #AltRetard hashtag. I don't care either way.

Blogger Nate September 29, 2016 8:27 AM  

"Meh... I was #64,000 something in the Gab queue something 7 days ago.  If I don't get anything by the 7th I'll be concerned."

pattern recognition says if you get something in the 60,000s in the que you are in the black hole of never getting the email.

I know people that emailed yesterday and got on yesterday.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 29, 2016 8:27 AM  

Keep checking your spam folders is my best advice.

That's where my invite was hiding.

I gotta say I like the higher character limit. You just couldn't say anything with Twitter's character limit. You could express a vague emotion but you couldn't get any kind of thought across.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 8:29 AM  

They want to claim that they and only they are the alt-right while denying anyone without their purity membership.

No one is going to take #AltRetard away from them. They can proudly claim that brand free and clear.

Just wait until Milo starts ramming it down their throats.

Blogger Nate September 29, 2016 8:29 AM  

nah. been through the spam. not there.

Blogger Nerb Z September 29, 2016 8:30 AM  

Nate wrote:Gab STILL hasn't emailed me.

***FUME***


Really? How long ago did you apply? My wife did about a week ago and got in within 72 Hours. I did about a week before that and got in almost immediately.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 29, 2016 8:32 AM  

Oh brother. "Co-opt Dumpster" is more retarderer than "Basket of Deplorables."

The Alt-retarded couldn't have said "Heil Vox" any better than if they No Awarded you.

Oh well, enjoy your Space Raptor Butt Invasion, Nazis!

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 8:32 AM  

FFS, relax. It will be handled with the VFM batch this weekend. Speaking of which, VFM, check your emails in about four hours.

Anonymous krymneth September 29, 2016 8:32 AM  

Socialism has more to do with what is destroying the West than anything that could conceivably save it. Any putative member of the Alt-Right that thinks socialism is the solution isn't being "read out of" the Alt-Right; Vox is right, they were never "Right" in the first place. They're not Alt-Right allies, they're leftists so confused that they don't even understand their own position in the ideological landscape.

A socialist who thinks the SJWs are stupid is at best a highly transient ally, and one that'll turn on the Alt-Right the instant it becomes clear that the Alt-Right isn't socialist, because that's what socialists do. Attacking and in the limit literally killing those who oppose socialism always becomes necessary because of socialism's fundamental incompatibility with reality and the inevitable blaming of its opponents.

If the fit ever hits the shan, the socialists will inevitably discover they have more in common with our enemies than our allies. SJWs are already far more racist than they realize (yes, it's losing rhetoric but it is still true dialectic) and Alt-Retards are only one quick hop away from them, they just disagree about where to point the racism... and even that already half-overlaps. (There's a lot of anti-semitism in academic leftism already.)

Blogger SouthRon September 29, 2016 8:34 AM  

Oh shit! They made it personal. Do these assholes have any idea what they have unleashed?

Blogger Krul September 29, 2016 8:35 AM  

@18 What's your username, Cataline? I want to follow you, if you don't mind.

Anonymous jacopo September 29, 2016 8:35 AM  

Larpers purity spiraling a movement just like Nazi Germany purity spiraled Europe to near oblivion. What could go wrong?

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 29, 2016 8:36 AM  

Me neither, Nate. I believe I applied around the time you first mentioned your app. Eh, beta.

Anonymous trequar September 29, 2016 8:36 AM  

@14
They're currently trying to purge their leader Richard Spencer. A gigantic thread determined that his Russian wife is not White, and that his faustian dream for American White men is a secret plot to destroy the Viking bloodline.

Really, it's easier to just sit back and watch them destroy themselves.

Anonymous johnc September 29, 2016 8:37 AM  

Gab STILL hasn't emailed me.

Gab is owned and operated by a Yankee.

Blogger The Deuce September 29, 2016 8:37 AM  

So these idiots think they can accomplish anything by refusing to even ALLY with anyone who isn't 100% white and in lockstep agreement with their weird Nazi-kisch tribe? Or, more likely, they're trying to keep anything from being accomplished.

OpenID lastsamurai768 September 29, 2016 8:40 AM  

One of the main things the alt-retards keep bringing up regarding Vox is the success of Castalia House. It's one of their main sources of hatred against him. He's called a shill because he's professional enough to produce a product that us marginalized people actually want and that seems to stick in their craw. I guess no one wants to buy their crappy t-shirts that are somehow never in stock.

Blogger JP September 29, 2016 8:42 AM  

If only they would put this much effort into fighting the globalist progressives.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 29, 2016 8:45 AM  

I always wondered about the Nazi "thing". In my mind, some of it seemed to be an "agree and amplify" form of trolling in response to the Leftists resorting to the "You're a Nazi epithet". In other cases, it seemed a bit over the top and, in the words of Walt Bismarck, an "autistic" usage.

Blogger Nate September 29, 2016 8:48 AM  

***OT***

Some Saint handed out bananas at a BLM protest on ETSU's campus.

BANANAS.

While wearing a gorilla mask.

Anonymous paradox September 29, 2016 8:50 AM  

If they want national socialism, they need a new variant. American conservatives and libertarians would label Switzerland socialist. And Switzerland is pro-business, decentralized, with the majority of social programs at the canton level of government. They need to emulate that model so everyone has a choice.

Blogger doofus September 29, 2016 8:51 AM  

You have to admit, though, they are true to the source material. Notice the jackboot on the foot that is kicking VD. So, give them props for proper accessorizing.

Blogger CM September 29, 2016 8:51 AM  

So these idiots think they can accomplish anything by refusing to even ALLY with anyone who isn't 100% white and in lockstep agreement with their weird Nazi-kisch tribe? Or, more likely, they're trying to keep anything from being accomplished.
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The SJWs of the alt-right?

Blogger Nate September 29, 2016 8:52 AM  

"Gab is owned and operated by a Yankee."

...

I knew it!

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 29, 2016 8:56 AM  

Note how many Deus Vult and cross memes they're posting. I guess they must be Christians like Breivik and McVeigh.

Anonymous WinstonWebb September 29, 2016 8:58 AM  

Some Saint handed out bananas at a BLM protest on ETSU's campus.

He was arrested and charged with one count of "civil rights intimidation", 'cause that's a thing.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 29, 2016 8:59 AM  

Krymneth, is it anti-semitism or anti-zionism in the academic left? What sort of things are you seeing?

Blogger tz September 29, 2016 9:09 AM  

#AltRetard - I can see it since for racial purity you eventually need consanguineous marriages.

Blogger Paul September 29, 2016 9:10 AM  

The inescapable problem with identity movements is, well, identity. Who gets to be authentically [identity] and who gets defenestrated as [illegitimate identity]? It's a house of mirrors problem and it really doesn't matter which identity movement it is. There's simply no way to objectively define anything defined by applying a label: given sufficient interest in doing so and corresponding application of resources, the JDL could assume the mantle as "Alt-Right". For better or worse, in such cases only might makes Alt-Right.

Blogger Durandel Almiras September 29, 2016 9:11 AM  

@ Nate - I'm with you. I applied on 9/21 and still no invite.

@ Vox - looking forward to the email and a hopefully Gab invite over the weekend.

Blogger tz September 29, 2016 9:11 AM  

They don't know what they want other than to purge the non-pure and are far too busy doing that to worry about governance and such.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 9:11 AM  

From "Ignore them and shoot left" to "Alt-Retard" in less than a month. Golf clap.

Blogger Ben Sanderson September 29, 2016 9:13 AM  

The sad thing is it needn't have come to this. Vox could have chosen another prefix than "Alt" to describe his thoughts. He had to have known the "Altright" was a brand, and that it was already owned by white nationalists. That couldn't have been missed by him. People do indeed fight over branding. Millions of dollars in court settlements are fought over such triflings as brands. There are undoubtedly countless terms which can describe an "alternative west". And yet Vox chose to rip off a brand. Oh well, c'est la vie.

PS stop hanging around Molyneux ... he's bad news.

Blogger Nate September 29, 2016 9:16 AM  

"He had to have known the "Altright" was a brand, and that it was already owned by white nationalists."

it isn't owned by anyone.

Or that is to say..

We take what we want.

Anonymous Eduardo September 29, 2016 9:19 AM  

#RadioVox
#EvilLegionTalkShow
#TheIlkHour
#NotAllDays
#WhosYourPepe

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 9:21 AM  

So many of the comments here completely and totally misread the AltRight. As a certified 1488/DS/TRS regular who has been in the AltRight from the beginning, I can tell you personally that you guys are tilting at windmills. But it is still all very concerning. You're getting a mob up to go after people who you have totally false ideas about; ideas that you gather from reading random twitter posts it seems. But if Sun Tzu was right, its actually good for us, assuming you go forward with this crazy destructive plan of trying to blow up the AltRight for egos' sake. I encourage the commenters here to actually get to know the AltRight and understand it before mobbing up and burning it down. The racialists of the AltRight are about the most intellectually robust segment of all. Speaking for myself, I love posting gas chamber memes, but I also have a degree in Philosophy (Analytic and Kantianism) with program honors from one of the top departments in the country. We're not at all what you think we are. Despise us if you want, but the fact is no one would be talking about the AltRight if not for Pepe and gas chamber memes. We caused that feel. Nothing good is going to come from pressing a war. We need to nip this in the bud right now and realize *there will always be trouble-makers*. We can't let them tear this thing apart.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 9:25 AM  

"Setting aside the fact that they clearly fail to understand my position, they appear to genuinely believe that the ALTernative RIGHT can be national SOCIALIST."

Who CARES about economic policy? We can discuss what sort of economic policy we want when we have a white nation.

Anonymous Eduardo September 29, 2016 9:30 AM  

#WhiteCommunismYouGuys

Anonymous LastRedoubt September 29, 2016 9:30 AM  

Do they honestly think we're going to become them? Seriously?

I spent some time digging into what they had to say ages ago, and while the points they made about white people becoming public enemy number one and being discriminated against found traction, I never saw a more obsessed, especially purity-obsessed, monomaniacal bunch of fucking retards in my life. Calling them mid-wit may be expecting too much.

That's leaving aside their love for socialism, which is just inherently fucking evil under any guise. Note how they're already trying to tell us what we can and cannot be.

We may need them, a little bit, but they can't figure out they're not going to recruit us?

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 9:31 AM  

Old Ez wrote:But if Sun Tzu was right, its actually good for us, assuming you go forward with this crazy destructive plan of trying to blow up the AltRight for egos' sake.

It's as much for misplaced loyalty, I think. Milo punched right, so we punched back, now Vox is joining in. I think he actually doesn't realize that Milo has been rhetorically attacking us since that Breitbart article.

Anonymous Casey September 29, 2016 9:31 AM  

Look on the bright side, Vox. Your Alexa ranking will go up from all the new visitors to your blog. They will all be Jewish, of course. But a click is a click.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric September 29, 2016 9:32 AM  

Old Ez wrote:Speaking for myself, I love posting gas chamber memes, but I also have a degree in Philosophy (Analytic and Kantianism) with program honors from one of the top departments in the country.
John Scalzi's sock puppet?!

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey September 29, 2016 9:34 AM  

Anyone else taking notes on Loren Feldman's attacks on Whites and Christians?

Why does (((Cernovich))) associate with this piece of trash?

Alt-Kike.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 9:36 AM  

@57, look, I am posting in good faith. You guys think we're all dumb - that is *literally* the only criticism of the AltRight I see here; that we're all dumb, stupid, smelly, poo-poo heads. Believe what you want.

Blogger Durandel Almiras September 29, 2016 9:38 AM  

The Alt-Retard is apt. They ignore that the rise of the Alt-Right has mostly to do with Right Libertarians and Dissident Right uniting and wanting to fight against Leftist aggression, particularly against PC and voter takeover and dispossession via immigration, and not because of nazi memes. They ignore that allies such as Milo, Allum, Mike, and other in Alt-Media and GGate have done more to spread Alt-Right ideas into the culture then they ever did through /pol, or Spencer and Johnson through their websites, or fellow thought allies like Taki and Unz. Heck, they keep this up and Spencer, Johnson et. al. may have to write these twits out of the new WN movement, which rejects socialism.

They got publicity and exposure for free, not because they were strategic or tactical. Heck, listen to the main thought leaders. Academic. A bit nerdy. No real wide stream charisma is coming out of them. They are, at best, idea men.

They should consider Vox an ally and use him as a strategy consultant.

They should use Milo, Mike, etc. to get initial new recruits since those guys have the charisma needed to sell the ideas.

They should have a multilayered tier of participation to allow for the largest coalition possible without drowning out the main principles that need to be implemented and accepted first. No enemies to the Right until after the Left is completely annihilated and White/Euro countries are protected from dispossession.

Their teenager stupidity is on full display here. No strategy in that post on Daily Stormer, at least none that makes sense or has any hope of working. It's a weird spergyness as from the top down with the Alt-Retard.

They just got a whole flood of people finally willing to listen to new ideas and arguments. The last thing they should do if they care about growth is to tell them they all can take it somewhere else so that they can maintain the purity of a label/hashtag.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 29, 2016 9:40 AM  

Well put.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey September 29, 2016 9:41 AM  

"You guys think we're all dumb"

Yes, it's the standard SJW / cuck line of attack. Toothless trailer trash, living in mommy's basement, etc.. We've heard it all before. :::yawn:::

The Alt-Righters I associate with in person are normal, down-to-earth, educated, successful people, young and old.

Also, they aren't hillbillies who refer to themselves as "The Ilk".

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 29, 2016 9:42 AM  

Not to mention that "National socialism is a leftist ideology!" Is merely the flip side of DR3.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey September 29, 2016 9:42 AM  

People like Milo are useful up to a certain point--and then we get rid of them.

Blogger bob k. mando September 29, 2016 9:42 AM  

7. Laguna Beach Fogey September 29, 2016 8:12 AM
LOL @ that cartoon. Too funny.



hardly.

i mean, hell, they can't even figure out who is supposed to get the fruity umbrella drink.



19. VD September 29, 2016 8:29 AM
No one is going to take #AltRetard away from them. They can proudly claim that brand free and clear.



i am AltRetard.

and you can too.



51. Old Ez September 29, 2016 9:21 AM
I also have a degree in Philosophy (Analytic and Kantianism) with program honors.



oh SHIT, my googles. errybody stand back, he's got a degree and he's NOT AFRAID TO USE IT!

Anonymous ZhukovG September 29, 2016 9:44 AM  

No one wanted a fight within the Alt-Right but you Alt-Whites. We Alt-Wests were perfectly willing to fight the Globalists right beside you.

But the Alt-Right has a mission, best summed up by the 14 Words and some of you are starting to threaten it.

An old guideline from my military days went like this:

'Go with the man until the man adversely effects the mission; then go with the mission.'

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 29, 2016 9:44 AM  

Not to mention that "National socialism is a leftist ideology!" Is merely the flip side of DR3.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 29, 2016 9:44 AM  

Well put.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey September 29, 2016 9:47 AM  

"hardly."

No, that cartoon nails it.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 9:49 AM  

Durandel Almiras wrote:They just got a whole flood of people finally willing to listen to new ideas and arguments. The last thing they should do if they care about growth is to tell them they all can take it somewhere else so that they can maintain the purity of a label/hashtag.

The entire point is to tell Milo-tier people (1) that they're wrong, and (2) why they're wrong! You know, to engage with them in dialogue so that we can persuade them.

And believe me, anybody who calls themselves Alt-Right and thinks that racism is bad needs a lot of persuading.

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 9:49 AM  

Alt-Retards are just white millennials who realized they're screwed under SJW ideology, so they just inverted the SJW hierarchy of good and evil. Nothing else in their worldview changed. They're degenerates, and having any part of them will be as fruitful as teaching a pig to sing.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 9:51 AM  

@60 "They ignore that the rise of the Alt-Right has mostly to do with Right Libertarians "

Again - and I am only saying this to help - we have somebody commenting that clearly doesn't know *the first thing* about the AltRight. The AltRight is explicitly critical of and hostile toward libertarianism, a/k/a LOLbergtarianism. Many of us came from the liberty movement and consider ourselves recovering libertarians, but the AltRight is explicitly and vocally anti-Libertarian; if you were conversant with the AltRight you would know that. Most of us believe that in the future, when we have homogeneous societies, we can have libertarianism, but not until then. This is what I mean when I say you guys are attacking a movement you don't understand. You should get to know us first, learn our positions and our arguments, and if you don't like them, then you can call us racists. But at least give us a fair hearing first.

Blogger clk September 29, 2016 9:55 AM  

"From "Ignore them and shoot left" to "Alt-Retard" in less than a month. Golf clap."

Appreciate the fact that one of the defining characteristics of Alt-anything (pick your own suffix) is independence/stubbornness/zealousness/inflexibility/not moderate -- it is the fridge and the fridge existed for real reasons -- the internet and blog sphere became common platform and means to communicate and combine but as was predicted and even in light of the calls to "attack no one on the right" and "shot left", it was simply not possible -- I was surprised that VD was able to hold it all together as long as he did but in the end, because he is at his core a Christian (despite how he likes to cloth himself in the image of satanic evil dark lord on throne of bones) -- he is nowhere near as vile as he wants you to think or as he sometimes likes to think himself to be...

Anonymous Meow Blitz September 29, 2016 9:55 AM  

"they appear to genuinely believe that the ALTernative RIGHT can be national SOCIALIST"

Whoa, looks like Jonah Goldberg hacked into Vox's account.

Anonymous Forum Poster September 29, 2016 9:56 AM  

Why do edgy Trump Republicans want to associate themselves with a brand that has always been a vehicle for extreme racism and re-branded far-right "neo-nazism"?

Steven Crowder is now being called Alt-Right by Alex Jones. Both are DR3 cucks.

Trump's going to win and there are going to be all sorts of business opportunities associated with that for Trump republicans.

You guys think you're going to cash in on those by monetizing the Alt-Right... but we will happily spoil that opportunity for by letting the swastikas fly, and helping the press ensure that the brand remains explicitly racist and far right.

Why aren't you guys monetizing the fact that you're now the Republican mainstream... and all the old grannies agree with you?

Surely glomming onto a Nazi brand can't be the most profitable opportunity? Well, if you try, there will be a lot of people looking to help the press define that brand in a way that you'll be uncomfortable with.

Blogger bob k. mando September 29, 2016 9:56 AM  

72. Old Ez September 29, 2016 9:51 AM
then you can call us racists.



who doesn't know about the what?

we don't care about the "racism".

we care primarily that YOU are shooting at US.

we care secondarily that so many of you want Socialism.

i can have a Constitutional society and not have Socialism ( although, if an individual State were to implement a Socialist Constitution, i don't see why they couldn't remain with the Union ).

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 29, 2016 9:57 AM  

krymneth wrote:Socialism has more to do with what is destroying the West than anything that could conceivably save it. Any putative member of the Alt-Right that thinks socialism is the solution isn't being "read out of" the Alt-Right; Vox is right, they were never "Right" in the first place. They're not Alt-Right allies, they're leftists so confused that they don't even understand their own position in the ideological landscape.

A socialist who thinks the SJWs are stupid is at best a highly transient ally, and one that'll turn on the Alt-Right the instant it becomes clear that the Alt-Right isn't socialist, because that's what socialists do. Attacking and in the limit literally killing those who oppose socialism always becomes necessary because of socialism's fundamental incompatibility with reality and the inevitable blaming of its opponents.

If the fit ever hits the shan, the socialists will inevitably discover they have more in common with our enemies than our allies. SJWs are already far more racist than they realize (yes, it's losing rhetoric but it is still true dialectic) and Alt-Retards are only one quick hop away from them, they just disagree about where to point the racism... and even that already half-overlaps. (There's a lot of anti-semitism in academic leftism already.)


Copied your whole post...but THIS to a hundred.

And there's a lot of bloody historical precedent for this.

The Spanish Civil War and World War 2 - the French Resistance, the Greek Civil War, the Yugoslav partisan wars, Mao in China.

In WW2 the socialists wouldn't let a little collaboration with the Axis get in the way of the Revolution. When the Axis troops left, the reds quickly turned their guns on their allies.

And who can forget the Spanish Civil War? Franco won because the Reds started killing off all their own side...and all the moderates went over to Franco, who subsequently won. It wasn't a few German planes and bullets that defeated the "Republicans" in Spain, but a massive movement of troops away from their betrayers. Of course, mainstream history and films, etc. say it was "NAZI PLANES" that did it...but, hey, what's a little lying and backstabbing for a socialist?

Blogger bob k. mando September 29, 2016 9:57 AM  

74. Meow Blitz September 29, 2016 9:55 AM
Whoa, looks like Jonah Goldberg hacked into Vox's account.



i was saying that years before that hackneyed Jew published his book.

Blogger M. Bibliophile September 29, 2016 9:58 AM  

For all intents and purposes, yes. Got into it with one on Gab: agreed on almost everything, but because I wasn't eager to blame Jews for everything and buy into his Gnostic pseudoreligious BS, I was obviously a Jew and some form of entryist.

My priest would be shocked, I'm sure.

Blogger Durandel Almiras September 29, 2016 9:58 AM  

@72 - Read my words again Old Ez. I didn't say the Alt-Eight came from Right Libertarians or from the Dissident Right, I said the publicity that shot the Alt-Right into the limelight came from those disaffected groups. I made no claims that Alt-Right is Libertarian (and I agree it isn't).

Maybe the Alt-Retarded really is retarded. Reading comprehension seems difficult for them.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 29, 2016 9:59 AM  

@71 Even Alt-Retard is part of the Alt-Right and we will NOT write them out. They may write themselves out; but, call me an optimist, I believe they will eventually see reason.

The 14 words are too important to let them be smothered by the 88 precepts.

Also I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of the most strident Alt-Retards are actually globalist infiltrators.

Blogger Nathan Wright September 29, 2016 9:59 AM  

Vox, butthurt is not a good look. This post is less defensible than calling for a boycott of the MLB, while deleting comments calling for a boycott of the NFL.

Anonymous Meow Blitz September 29, 2016 9:59 AM  

Stop being reasonable.

Blogger Alexander September 29, 2016 10:00 AM  

One thing the Communists got right was the Popular Front. Don't take on all your enemies at once, and wherever possible encourage your enemies to fight your enemies.

It's beyond frustrating to see infighting when we haven't even reached the first real checkpoint. If the buses we're full, shuttling Juan and Pedro back beyond the rapidly rising wall, then the coalition showing signs of breaking down would be annoying but fully understandable.

So Alt-White wants white ethno-states with perhaps some fuzz on what constitutes white; Alt-West wants to protect western civilization with perhaps some fuzz on how intrinsic a white super-majority is to that goal.

But right now, both sides have nothing. No wall, no deportations, no ironclad institutions, no amicable authorities... now is not the time to deny that we are still fellow travelers.

I can see where Milo rubs people the wrong way; who he is, what he says, and how he goes about saying it. I can appreciate Lauritz Von Guildhausen's concern that the key issue isn't that the Jews were banned from 109 places, but how they got back into 109 places that were officially hostile towards them, without supposedly having any members on the inside to open the door. So when one sees Milo, I get the kneejerk reaction to say, "Nope, not worth it."

But that's it. Attacks on Vox are retarded. Attacks on Gamergate are retarded. Attacks on Cernovich are retarded.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 10:03 AM  

@76 "we care primarily that YOU are shooting at US." - But this is a lie though, fam. Milo started this by saying that racialists were "5%" of the AltRight which is a blatant lie. Milo attempted a hostile takeover and got push-back. Yeah, a few spergs took some cheap shots at Vox Day, but like I said, you're *always" going to have trouble makers. By and large, the AltRight loves VD and its breaking our hearts to see this slow-mo train-wreck unfold.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 29, 2016 10:05 AM  

Milo has got to be dancing with glee over this. Alt-Retardz are the KeysTone Kops.

Blogger Student in Blue September 29, 2016 10:06 AM  

"I WAS HERE FIRST AT ALT-RIGHT GUYS"

99% of people have never heard of Spencer or that he used it first. They wanted an Alternative to the Right because the establishment has been screwing them over.

We didn't select "Alt-Right" to try and coopt your crappy movement, because we don't care about you.

You are not some "big movement" that we want to coopt and take over, WE ARE THE MOVEMENT. You have a complete lack of understanding the difference of number of people.

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 10:07 AM  

That moment when you realize that the impending Ten Thousand Years of Darkness won't be averted because autism.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 10:09 AM  

@80, "publicity that shot the Alt-Right into the limelight...came from those [Right libertarians]" - You're still wrong. The publicity that came to the AltRight came because we started flooding comment sections, and more importantly, journalists twitter feeds with our dank memes. That's the *only* reason the AltRight got any mainstream attention: gas chamber memes to Jewish journalists and shutting down the NRO comment section. Take away gas chamber memes to Jewish journalists and Hillary's Alt Right speech never happened. #TrvFact Libertarians had next-to-nothing to do with the rise of the Alt Right. Again, if you were really a part of the Alt Right, you would know that Libertarians tend to hate and despise us (see this comment thread) and have been raging against us since we popped up on their radar. You are literally trying to make up a history of the Alt Right from whole cloth.

Blogger Durandel Almiras September 29, 2016 10:09 AM  

@85 - Then write articles explaining why Milo is wrong, or articles welcoming Milo fans and then correcting Milo's points. For example, Milo made it seem in Houston, via association, that the Alt-Right is not mostly Anti-War or Anti-Imperialism. If someone goes to his rally to ask a question, press on that without looking like a butt hurt sperg and he'd likely clarify/retreat. But buttraging about him does nothing. Think jujitsu on this, use the confusion as an opportunity rather than a chance to sperg and alienate.

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen September 29, 2016 10:11 AM  

Purity spiraling is un-Biblical. The example most relevant to Milo is Rahab the prostitute. Gay wrong you crazy Jew.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 29, 2016 10:12 AM  

The Alt-Righters I associate with in person are normal, down-to-earth, educated, successful people, young and old.

How many of them have white children?

Also, they aren't hillbillies who refer to themselves as "The Ilk".


The ilk have more children, more guns, and more resources than any other group in the alt right.

Anonymous Hillbilly Ilk September 29, 2016 10:12 AM  

I considered calling Laguna Beach Fogey a "retard" but that would be a grievous insult to mentally disabled people.

Anonymous Sheiko29 September 29, 2016 10:13 AM  

Alt-White is low white. Low white is anti-civilation. Burn their mobile homes.

Blogger Bodichi September 29, 2016 10:14 AM  

@ 84 Alexander

"Attacks on Vox are retarded. Attacks on Gamergate are retarded. Attacks on Cernovich are retarded."

Ding. Ding. Ding.

No enemies to my right. All fire directed left.

Blogger Charlemagne503 September 29, 2016 10:14 AM  

@#60 You summed up perfectly what I was thinking while reading through this thread. I'm probably closer to a Right Libertarian than anything else (slowly shifting further right), and found out about you guys recently thanks to the Milo article and some VD books I read. I'm here because I want to learn from people and find allies. This in-fighting is going to start turning people away who would otherwise be open to consider Alt-Right ideas. That being said, I'm still happy to be here and will continue my re-education.

@VD Thank you for what you do.

Blogger bob k. mando September 29, 2016 10:15 AM  

85. Old Ez September 29, 2016 10:03 AM
Milo started this by saying that racialists were "5%" of the AltRight which is a blatant lie.



your panties are in a bunch because Milo characterized you as "5%" of a movement?

seriously? and THIS is why you're attacking US?

look, i can see you're going to make my attempt to seize the #AltRetard banner a serious battle.

let me think up some high grade stupid and i'll get back to you.

Anonymous mono September 29, 2016 10:17 AM  

I knew this would happen, self-proclaimed "leaders" calling for jihads to waste time punching to the right and scaring off normies ripe for redpilling instead of uniting as a force to keep fighting the leftist SJW cucks will be the demise of the movement. This is the divide & conquer (((they))) have been waiting for. Goddamn fucking retards, this is why we can't have nice things.

RIP "alt-right" 2009-2016

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 29, 2016 10:18 AM  

@85 I wouldn't worry too much about some entryists trying to co-opt a term or name or attempt to rebrand it. One thing we have to keep in mind too is how many "white supremacist groups" are government spooks too.

@84 Goes back to the old rule that any movement not strictly X will turn leftist. The Communists got the popular front right, as you say, but they turn those guns quickly when they do. Best to get rid of the Reds straight away.

A more recent example - look at the Tea Party in the US. Quickly got overtaken by the Churchians and the cuckservatives. What was a catch-all of libertarian, conservative and classical liberals became, well, Ted Cruz and his gang of White Horser Globalists.

We can discuss whether or not the #AltRetards are just government spooks, cucks capitalizing on a popular movement, or reds/churchians/neo-nazis wishing to take over. In any case, they wish to destroy the Alt-Right from the inside.

Anonymous Forum Poster September 29, 2016 10:18 AM  

Vox Day said:
"Neither National Socialists nor Fascists are even right-wing. You guys not only aren't "Alt-Right", you're not even Right at all."

This is textbook entryism. The Alt-Right has been significantly fascist and national socialist since day one.

You guys are Trump Republicans. As Trump Republicans, you're fine. As "Alt-West" people saying that there is no place for fascists in the Alt-Right, you're left entryist, just like SJWs trying to take over an organization and remake it.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric September 29, 2016 10:18 AM  

Old Ez wrote:@60 "They ignore that the rise of the Alt-Right has mostly to do with Right Libertarians "

Again - and I am only saying this to help - we have somebody commenting that clearly doesn't know *the first thing* about the AltRight. The AltRight is explicitly critical of and hostile toward libertarianism, a/k/a LOLbergtarianism. Many of us came from the liberty movement and consider ourselves recovering libertarians, but the AltRight is explicitly and vocally anti-Libertarian; if you were conversant with the AltRight you would know that. Most of us believe that in the future, when we have homogeneous societies, we can have libertarianism, but not until then. This is what I mean when I say you guys are attacking a movement you don't understand. You should get to know us first, learn our positions and our arguments, and if you don't like them, then you can call us racists. But at least give us a fair hearing first.

Hey, Old Helpful... all I see is that you are butthurt because you're identity is threatened because people that you don't already know from your Stormfronter circle jerk are using a hashtag over which you think you are entitled to ownership.

I don't care.

bob k. mando wrote:we care primarily that YOU are shooting at US.

we care secondarily that so many of you want Socialism.

Precisely. All of you retards who think that we're entryists who want to cuck up and monetize your precious, twee little corner of the internet: you really are stupid. What we want to do is preserve our inheritance and have something of value to give to our children. Your movement was going nowhere. If you see validation in the spread of Pepe memes or Hillary's fear-mongering, look again.

Anonymous Fred2 September 29, 2016 10:18 AM  

While I'm sure there are plenty of natural alt-retards, I'm warming to the idea of significant fraction of the really aggressive ones being False/Flag Agent-Provocateur types.

They keep going long after most people that tedious go home and cry with their marbles.

Anonymous Hillbilly Ilk September 29, 2016 10:18 AM  

A chubster nicknamed "LB Fogey"
Baited The Ilk which was certainly dopey
And now in this thread
We'll sever his head
And render his fat nice and soapy

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 10:19 AM  

@96 The infighting is endemic, since a goodly proportion of the alt right's self selection is for folks who don't play well with others to begin with. Getting into parochial feuds over trifles like Milo and "socialism v libertarianism" when there are actual existential crises (like that African population time bomb Vox and Greg Johnson mentioned) in view is not a function of sincere concerns about the true path, but a rationalization for the will to drama queen.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 10:24 AM  

@97 "and THIS is why you're attacking US?" - I am not attacking anyone, I am trying to get everyone to stop the attacks. If you weren't so rustled you'd be able to see that.

Blogger ÆtherCzar September 29, 2016 10:26 AM  

I've been entering new emails to get on Gab since August when I was in the 9000s on the list, and I have yet to hear anything. I did get an email last week when I applied using my gmail account. But any and all emails to gab.ai just bounce back for me. I hope Gab operates better on the inside than it appears from the outside.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 10:26 AM  

One of the main things the alt-retards keep bringing up regarding Vox is the success of Castalia House.

Seriously? I had no idea. That's strange. They're really going to love Big Fork.


From "Ignore them and shoot left" to "Alt-Retard" in less than a month. Golf clap.

I advised ignoring them on the basis of differences of opinion and objectives. I never said to ignore direct personal attacks. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two doesn't speak well for your intelligence.

The sad thing is it needn't have come to this. Vox could have chosen another prefix than "Alt" to describe his thoughts. He had to have known the "Altright" was a brand, and that it was already owned by white nationalists. That couldn't have been missed by him. People do indeed fight over branding. Millions of dollars in court settlements are fought over such triflings as brands. There are undoubtedly countless terms which can describe an "alternative west". And yet Vox chose to rip off a brand.

No one owns a hashtag. And I have been alternative right since before there ever was an Alt-Right.

PS stop hanging around Molyneux ... he's bad news.

No. He is one of my key social media allies. Unlike you guys, I understand how to make alliances and be a reliable ally. That's why my audience and effectiveness will continue to grow at an accelerating rate. Yours won't, until you learn that.

Even Hitler, for all his strategic lunacy, allied with Japan and tried to avoid fighting Britain.

You're getting a mob up to go after people who you have totally false ideas about; ideas that you gather from reading random twitter posts it seems. But if Sun Tzu was right, its actually good for us, assuming you go forward with this crazy destructive plan of trying to blow up the AltRight for egos' sake.

I no longer give a shit who any of you Alt-Retards are. I don't read your sites, I don't follow your tweets, and I'm now uninterested in anything you have to say.

Despise us if you want, but the fact is no one would be talking about the AltRight if not for Pepe and gas chamber memes. We caused that feel.

No, MILO WRITING ABOUT YOU caused that. If he didn't write about you and draw attention to it, the idiots in the Clinton campaign never would have even noticed you. You could have ridden that horse for the next six months, but instead you were too frightened that a guy who repeatedly says he's not one of you was an interest.

You guys think we're all dumb - that is *literally* the only criticism of the AltRight I see here; that we're all dumb, stupid, smelly, poo-poo heads. Believe what you want.

The Alt-Retard is dumb. You can't be trusted to be reasonable and you are literally too stupid to bother allying with. I don't agree with Milo, Mike, Roosh, or Stefan about everything, or even very much. But they are all vastly smarter than any of you guys, and far more trustworthy.

You've attacked Milo, read out Richard Spencer and me, and now you've announced that Greg Johnson is next. I'm not sure that Alt-Retard isn't giving you guys too much credit. Even a retard can learn that hitting everyone around him is a bad idea.

Blogger Elkanah Haon September 29, 2016 10:26 AM  

Nate wrote:Gab STILL hasn't emailed me.

***FUME***


Seen a few comments on here from guys who registered for the waiting list quite a bit before me but have yet to be invited while I got mine last week.

Not sure if it's a mistake or maybe fact I registered with an academic e-mail address got me fast-tracked (maybe they assumed I was a somebody, when I'm really not).

Either way given the number of pretty prominent (VD, Milo, Cernovich, Forney etc) figures making the switch or opening an account in addition to their Twitter over the last few weeks Gab really need to clear the waiting list and prepare for further registrations ASAP if they want to succeed.

The promise of a 'Twitter as it was before SJWs took over' is a winning one. Even if it were to remain an Alt-Right dominated sphere, the meme magic power of that segment and it's surging name-recognition would maintain it's relevancy. Eventually you'd also get libertarians/cuckservatives/contrarian leftists joining which would be enough to finally draw the remaining masses.

SJWs are inherently intolerant of opposing worldviews but they need the option of ranting at, or blocking, those opposing views otherwise their opportunities to virtue signal are far fewer and considerably less potent. A Twitter which consists of nothing but corporations advertising and people current yearing will quickly die.

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 10:28 AM  

I got my Gab invite within an hour or so.

Blogger Student in Blue September 29, 2016 10:29 AM  

You guys are Trump Republicans. As Trump Republicans, you're fine. As "Alt-West" people saying that there is no place for fascists in the Alt-Right, you're left entryist, just like SJWs trying to take over an organization and remake it.

And what marvelous organization do you actually have that we're trying to take over? Stormfront? You can have it.

If there's no actual organization we're trying to take over (and there isn't), then you're seriously crying over a word. A word! And how you used it first, like you laid copyright to it and how you really own it.

It's kind of like that smallfry who was trying to get money from J.K. Rowling because Harry Potter became famous. "Oh you used our name! Terrible! Now pay me my dues!" as if the reason for Rowling's success lied in the name.

Anonymous User September 29, 2016 10:29 AM  

This is great support for my thesis that there never will be white nationalism because white people basically hate each other and will use any excuse to fight. See Europe for historical examples.

Blogger Charlemagne503 September 29, 2016 10:30 AM  

@103 Yes, I listened VD and Greg Johnson yesterday (great conversation). There are ACTUAL crises on the horizon, and this seems like a waste of effort on everyone's part.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 29, 2016 10:30 AM  

You've attacked Milo, read out Richard Spencer and me, and now you've announced that Greg Johnson is next.

Will there be anyone left when they're through denouncing the race traitor heretics?

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 29, 2016 10:31 AM  

Forum Poster wrote:Vox Day said:

"Neither National Socialists nor Fascists are even right-wing. You guys not only aren't "Alt-Right", you're not even Right at all."

This is textbook entryism. The Alt-Right has been significantly fascist and national socialist since day one.

You guys are Trump Republicans. As Trump Republicans, you're fine. As "Alt-West" people saying that there is no place for fascists in the Alt-Right, you're left entryist, just like SJWs trying to take over an organization and remake it.


The Nazis and the Fascists are socialist. They merely used nationalism and white nationalism as vehicles for their socialism.

Hitler and Mussolini were rabidly anti-capitalist and anti-Christian. Hitler wanted to remold the West into a neo-pagan, pre-Fall of the Gods garden. He just believed the Teutons were the master race to accomplish this hippy paradise. Which KARL MARX also believed. The Leftist Eugenicists ALSO believed this.

Look - Hitler socialized the economy to conquer the world to make it into an environmentalist's wet dream. He thought the Jews were dirty because they were capitalist and because they couldn't inherit the earth. Germans and some other whites were merely the worthy gatekeepers and warriors.

Nor was Hitler "conservative". He was actively beginning to undermine traditional family units as well. The ultimate goal was that Germans would not get married and have sex parties for breeding, and children would be stewards of the State. If that doesn't sound socialist...

It's a trick of communist "historians" that lump the Nazi Party and the Fascists on the "Right".

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 10:31 AM  

As "Alt-West" people saying that there is no place for fascists in the Alt-Right, you're left entryist, just like SJWs trying to take over an organization and remake it.

We don't want your organization or your retards. We don't even read your sites or know who you are.

But yes, we'll take your hashtags if we feel like it. We did that many times during #GamerGate. You draw frogs. We take over hashtags. That's what we do.

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 10:32 AM  

@110 Nah, infighting is a human constant. The silly thing about "white nationalism," is it really means "American nationalism," from back when American meant white. And let's not even get into the giant squid in the kitchen which is the Southern Nationalists who want no part of this autistic white imperium.

Blogger Alexander September 29, 2016 10:33 AM  

@98

Disagree.

Right now we have several billion ooga-boogas of all types who want access to our wealth, land, and women. We have a hostile and open fifth-column numbering in the tens of millions that would love nothing more than to give it to them, and a gang of cucks who would oppose doing so, but don't want to be called racists.

All backed up by a financial and media machine operated by the (((globalists))) driven by historical rivalry, a sense of revenge, or perceived future interest.

And they all want to put a woman in charge who believes that these people have an inalienable right to destroy us.

So no, even if it means that at some future date some current allied faction may put a bullet in my back, I do not believe in wasting a single shot, a single pinch of powder, on anyone that is aiming their rifle towards the current enemy in front of us. I don't give a damn if they identify as a National Socialist, or an anti-SJW, or a civic nationalist, or a disillusioned libertarian.

If that means I'm leaving an enemy in my rear that will manifest five years from now, so be it. But first thing is to ensure that we're even around in five years time. Securing an existence and a future, if you will.

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 10:33 AM  

@112 There seems to be a pattern of attacking men with talent.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 10:34 AM  

@VD, well I guess time will tell. Time will tell if the "AltRight" is a group of disaffected classical liberals with a Jewish homosexual as leader, or if the "AltRight" is a manifestation of white racialism. Time will tell.

Anonymous mono September 29, 2016 10:34 AM  

As for Milo, there's literally nothing to gain attacking him. I don't like his antics but he's good at triggering leftists on his own. I guess the hardcore purists at TDS and TRS are butthurt at the perception of him getting so much more attention than them, this is exactly the conflict that (((journalists))) like Joel Stein wanted by proclaiming Milo as the "face of the alt-right" even if Milo himself has said he isn't alt-right at all.

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 10:35 AM  

@118 For someone "trying to get everyone to stop the attacks," you sure do love punching out strawmen.

Blogger Student in Blue September 29, 2016 10:36 AM  

@117. Hostem Populi
There seems to be a pattern of attacking men with talent.

They hate 'em cuz they ain't 'em.

OpenID basementhomebrewer September 29, 2016 10:37 AM  

The arrogance is strong in Alt-Retard. They firmly believe they started a landslide movement. They are now attacking the figures that are responsible for them getting any kind of notice. They will go back to being irrelevant if they are successful.

The relatively recent explosion in popularity has nothing to do with your gas chamber meme's. It has everything to do with a large section of the population becoming disenchanted with the establishment and popular figures (like Milo and Vox) pointing the way to an alternative. The fact you are trying to drive a wedge between Milo and Vox shows your SJW tendencies. It is the same tactic they constantly try to use.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric September 29, 2016 10:39 AM  

@115. And infighting is fine. I used to fight with my brothers a fair bit.

But we made a united stand against the rest of the world, no questions asked.

If these self-proclaimed "I was here first alt-right" guys can't get that, then they're not worth allying with.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 10:39 AM  

Vox, butthurt is not a good look.

I'm not even remotely butthurt. I am exasperated that these retards couldn't simply focus on the myriad actual issues. I think they are incredibly stupid and I no longer see any point in trying to protect them for that reason.

Cherish your extremists is the right thing to do when your extremists attack the enemy, but there is absolutely no use for extremists who are more interested in protecting their purity and attacking their own prospective friends, allies, and sympathizers.

If they can't grasp that, there is neither use nor room for them.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 10:40 AM  

If these self-proclaimed "I was here first alt-right" guys can't get that, then they're not worth allying with.

Precisely. They will prove that their movement literally cannot grow and needs to be replaced.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 29, 2016 10:41 AM  

The alt retard reminds me of the sfwa trufans.

Blogger VFM #7191 September 29, 2016 10:42 AM  

Old Ez wrote:Yeah, a few spergs took some cheap shots at Vox Day

Just a few spergs? Almost the entire TRS forum has been in war mode against Vox for the past week or so. Even Enoch has been going into retarded purity spiraling every time Vox's name is brought up.

The Alt-White is shooting itself in the foot. They used to focus their fire on Salon, NRO, and anti-whites on Twitter and now they're spending their energies attacking people like Vox and Spencer because they're not 1488 National Socialists. It's dumb and unproductive.

Blogger Demonic Professor El September 29, 2016 10:43 AM  

Alexander wrote:Disagree.

Right now we have several billion ooga-boogas of all types who want access to our wealth, land, and women. We have a hostile and open fifth-column numbering in the tens of millions that would love nothing more than to give it to them, and a gang of cucks who would oppose doing so, but don't want to be called racists.


I think we disagree in kind, rather than type. I agree we need all the allies we can get, for sure. But those who would sacrifice 95% of their troops to assuage the %5 is left without an army. That's why Milo is better as an ally than someone like Glenn Beck. One's a Globalist, one isn't.

I remember I got a couple questions for saying ex-Democrats in the US are good allies as long as the agree with our principles - property protection, gun rights, free speech rights. They were merely duped by unions and the Republicans having such bad candidates. I've met a lot of (former) Democrats who were as pro-gun, etc., as any Alt-Right.

So there's a nuance in there.

I also said, look at how the European powers used colonial troops - very often they were only trusted with driving trucks and manning communications. Only in a pinch (Sikhs) were they used as combat troops or even had access to anything that could damage the war effort. They got stuck with potatoes and trucks.

We do have the advantage in that we know what the enemy's process is and how they try to take over.

So again, it's a nuance of disagreement rather than ideological. Which is why the Alt-Right is stronger - on the basis of principle.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 10:45 AM  

I guess time will tell. Time will tell if the "AltRight" is a group of disaffected classical liberals with a Jewish homosexual as leader, or if the "AltRight" is a manifestation of white racialism. Time will tell.

We will see. Next week you'll discover just how insane your decision was. Not because we'll do anything to you all, but because our next project, which dwarfs Castalia House, will be unveiled.

I understand the perils of entryism much better than most. But what you guys are paranoid about is not entryism. You are simply scared that we are far more influential than you are, and you're right, we are. But the right thing to do would have been to work with us on points of common ground. The path you guys appear to have chosen isn't so much wrong as stupid.

Blogger Hostem Populi September 29, 2016 10:47 AM  

@126 The TRS forum culture was always inclined to that sort of behavior, so no real surprise there. Haven't had time to listen to the Daily Shoah for a month or so, so can't comment on Enoch, but I'd thought better of him than that.

Blogger Old Ez September 29, 2016 10:47 AM  

@121 "They firmly believe they started a landslide movement." - We don't believe anything, we *know* what we did. It is you guys who are twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to convince yourselves we didn't. And you have to systematically invent false narratives to do it. Fundamentally, "nuddah this matters", the Alt Right has been under constant attack from every quarter since the beginning and having a few hundred or thousand VFM sniping at us on twitter with #AltRetard may distract from the mission at hand a bit, but its not going to stop anything. The fact is, most of my AltRight activities take place in the real world with my local meet-up group. Nothing that happens in this comment section or on twitter will be allowed to interfere with our work. I'm sure even VD can appreciate and respect that.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 10:48 AM  

Almost the entire TRS forum has been in war mode against Vox for the past week or so. Even Enoch has been going into retarded purity spiraling every time Vox's name is brought up.

Have they? I had no idea. I suppose that would make them The Retard Stuff. Hurrah for #AltRetard!

Blogger bob k. mando September 29, 2016 10:49 AM  

104. Old Ez September 29, 2016 10:24 AM
If you weren't so rustled you'd be able to see that.



'rustled'? see, now you're taking baby steps.

IF you want to accomplish something worthwhile
THEN go back to the Tru AltRight ( whatever you think that is ) and tell them to SHUT THE FUCK UP about being "5%".

Milo is NOT attacking them.

Milo is making a Rhetorical point with ( and this is important ) Rhetorical statistics. are you actually 99.998% of the AltRight and Milo has 'falsely' ( Rhetorically ) characterized you as a lowly 5%( 97.348% of all statistics are made up on the spot to serve a Rhetorical purpose ... including this one )?

SO THE FUCK WHAT?

does Milo's ( mis )characterization change the reality of your position in any way?

does Milo's ( mis )characterization greatly expand the audience to whom you can make your views known?

remember, most everyone in the US is thoroughly indoctrinated into Race Equalitarianism by the age of 20.

IF you are characterized as "racist, White Power, Nazis"
THEN most of them are going to immediately turn away from you without ever considering your idea or hatefacts.

Milo is giving the Normies a FagJew pass to look at what the AltRight is saying.

SHUT UP and give the Normies time to look at your HateFacts. give them time to look at Noel Ignatiev. give them time to look at the Kalergi Plan.

and do it WHILE HAVING FUN.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 10:50 AM  

It is you guys who are twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to convince yourselves we didn't. And you have to systematically invent false narratives to do it.

You clearly have no idea how little we think about you.

Anonymous User September 29, 2016 10:50 AM  

To the autistes sperging out with this latest purity spiral:

This is stupid. Attacking Vox is objectively stupid. Vox is easily the most useful and least objectionable highly intelligent self-promoter on the right side of the Internet. He explains to you in small words how to get along with him and benefit from him.

Even if you somehow "win" you still lose. Chill out and read a good book. I recommend something by Cialdini if you want to pull your heads out of your asses, or something from Castalia house if you want to be entertained or militia LARP.

Blogger RAMZPAUL September 29, 2016 10:50 AM  

White Nationalism has a LONG history of agent provocateurs and FBI informants. Google "Hal Turner" for a fairly recent example. He was a 14/88 type radio host that later admitted in trial that he was a FBI informer instructed to make outrageous and radical statements.

And given that the current government considers people that advocate White identity has the #1 domestic threat, you would have to be naive not to believe that some of the more radical personalities are either on the payroll of the FBI and/or the ADL.

Many of these suspect characters are former felons. This is a red flag as such people are often offered brokered deals by the government to play a role. Before you trust someone, run a background check on their past.

The reason for such operations are two fold:

1. Gain information on any suspected "extremists."

2. Associated White identity with Hollywood Nazism (e.g. running around calling everyone a kike). The goal is to define the Alt Right as nothing more than the old Hollywood Nazis. Because our enemy knows that most normal people don't want to be associated with evil Nazis.

But the idea that the Alt Right just stands for the right of life and self-determination of ALL people (including Whites) scares the shit out of our enemies. For most normal Americans would agree with that position.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 29, 2016 10:51 AM  

@118 You know for a while there I had mistaken you for a rational, reasonably intelligent individual. But with that comment you have disabused of the notion.

Blogger My Dead Gramps September 29, 2016 10:51 AM  

How many hwhite children do you have, Old Ez? More than 2.1, I hope.

Blogger Alexander September 29, 2016 10:53 AM  

@127

Fair enough.


Vox, one practical point that this does bring up: How does one establish a system that protects from entryism without purity spiralling to absurd heights? Set a bar early on and then fight all attempts to move it, either by purists seeking to raise it or infiltrators seeking to lower it?

Anonymous Forum Poster September 29, 2016 10:54 AM  

Nah, it's definitely better for us when you openly admit that you're ideologically hostile and trying a hostile takeover, rather than letting you work to gradually subvert us

Trump republicans are fine. And most Trump Republicans are smart people who won't want to be associated with far right imagery, so we're going to be just fine. Nobody is attacking Conservative Treehouse and nobody will.

Alt-West however, is stillborn, dead before it started.

Thanks for making it easy.

Blogger Joshua_D September 29, 2016 10:55 AM  

Old Ez, the fact that you're on Vox's blog trying to explain what the AltRight really means simply proves the point. You can either get on the train, or you can stand on the tracks yelling "Stop"!

Blogger Student in Blue September 29, 2016 10:55 AM  

@135. RAMZPAUL

Hey RAMZPAUL, if this is the actual one and not a copycat. When I was still bluepilled I subbed to your youtube channel because I thought it was biting satire.

You can imagine my shock when I realized it wasn't complete satire. :)

Hal Turner

Wait, the guy that 4chan provoked relentlessly was an FBI Agent? Crazy. No wonder he went bonkers the way he did.

Blogger Student in Blue September 29, 2016 10:58 AM  

@138. Alexander
How does one establish a system that protects from entryism without purity spiralling to absurd heights? Set a bar early on and then fight all attempts to move it, either by purists seeking to raise it or infiltrators seeking to lower it?

I think there's a section in SJWAL that already covers that, purity-spiralling and all.

Blogger Austin Ballast September 29, 2016 11:00 AM  

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Blogger Sevron September 29, 2016 11:02 AM  

The TRS guys were overjoyed recently because they had a public meeting that netted something like 20 guys. It's a big deal if somebody donates $50 to one of their podcasts. They really think they're in control of anything?

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 11:03 AM  

Nah, it's definitely better for us when you openly admit that you're ideologically hostile and trying a hostile takeover, rather than letting you work to gradually subvert us

You guys freaked out because a few people called Milo and me the leaders of the Alt-Right. And you think it convinces anyone that you don't mind if we start telling everyone that we are?

having a few hundred or thousand VFM sniping at us on twitter with #AltRetard may distract from the mission at hand a bit, but its not going to stop anything.

Please. You guys have apparently been in a tizzy for a week or more just because we occasionally used #AltRight. If we were to embrace our position as the media-anointed leaders of the #AltRight and ensure everyone recognizes you only as #AltRetard, you'll need collective therapy.

You care FAR more about us than we do about you.

Blogger Durandel Almiras September 29, 2016 11:09 AM  

Alt-Retard thinks it is strategically more important to attack Milo and Vox rather than join them at firing at the Globalists, pro-Immigrationists/white genociders (sorry VD), terrorists, enabling leftist moral fags or with the pressing issues of the non-white population bomb, and euro/white birth rates.

Priorities yo

Anonymous trequar September 29, 2016 11:09 AM  

@101 Fred2 wrote:really aggressive ones being False/Flag Agent-Provocateur types.
It's simpler than that. There's a massive streak of nihilism in those circles... not without reason to be fair.

Yeah they can claim they want a Nazi paradise, or an ethnostate, or the 14 words... but they'd be just as happy posting dank memes, trolling and drawing frogs until someone shuts of the internet.

Point being, don't go expecting anything coherent from alt-retards.

Blogger The Reactionary September 29, 2016 11:10 AM  

Did you ask Greg Johnson about his book on economics that he's working on?

Blogger Alexander September 29, 2016 11:12 AM  

@142

I'll have to go back and reread, particularly if there's anything to counter good-faith purists nonetheless fucking up an institution.

I don't think frustration with Milo is retarded: whether it proves to be a longterm issue or not, being concerned about a gay Jew with a penchant for dindu, who says he's not alt-right but nonetheless continues to act in such a way that he is more and more associated with the alt-right...

I'd say the TRS has a point, or at least a right to be concerned. It's not like the Jewish fellow traveler with a media presence hasn't gone pearshaped before.

But they're adjusting their target to more than 'just Milo'. That's disconcerting.

Blogger Stilicho September 29, 2016 11:12 AM  

I hate Illinois Nazis.

Blogger Escoffier September 29, 2016 11:13 AM  

Austin Ballast: most of those botching about Gab either did not receive that welcome email or it got deleted and we're stuck emailing their support that seems to be ignoring us.

Blogger Nick S September 29, 2016 11:14 AM  

I thought Kenny Loggins was there first.

"I'm Alt-Right
Don't nobody worry 'bout me
Why you gotta give me a fight?
Why can't you just let it be?
I'm Alt-Riiiiiiight..."

Blogger Russell September 29, 2016 11:15 AM  

No enemies to the Right, but if the dumb fuckers stand in the line of fire?

*grabs popcorn*

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0b/87/ff/0b87ffefabbc66888298e5fcb455862d.jpg

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 11:22 AM  

Did you ask Greg Johnson about his book on economics that he's working on?

No, I didn't know anything about it.

Blogger The Reactionary September 29, 2016 11:30 AM  

@154 He definitely has some idiosyncratic views, it could have been interesting.

Blogger The Reactionary September 29, 2016 11:31 AM  

@154 Next time you interact, you should ask him about his economics views. For example, I think he'd like an upper limit on income, I think I recall $2 million was a number.

Blogger jdwalker September 29, 2016 11:35 AM  

All this talk of brands, memes, and hashtags seems ridiculous to me. Admittedly, I'm not on twitter, gab, facebook, etc., but most people I know are on those sites and I don't know many people that have the faintest idea about Alt-Right, Alt-West, Pepe, Milo, etc. And this is with all of Milo's writings, Clinton's speech, etc. It might be the younger generation that is the key group there, but from my perspective it is Trump that will be the bigger boost to the Alt-Right to the extent the Alt-Right will pull its head out of its ass and take advantage of it. But increasingly, whether it is Alt-Right, Alt-West, Alt-whatever, it seems that it won't. It's as if the Alt-Right has now been infected with that tendency to find a way to lose again.

Blogger praetorian September 29, 2016 11:36 AM  

@156 Yep, he has a Distributist streak to him. He cited Aristotle's claim that the richest people in a polity should have about 5x the wealth of the average person, IIRC.

This doesn't bother me at all, as long as it is managed at a sufficiently small scale and allows for other folks to choose a different system.

Anonymous Andrew Jackson September 29, 2016 11:38 AM  

"I'm not trying to co-opt the AltRight but you aren't really the AltRight because I said so now I think I'll help myself to your brand thx."

Nobody is buying it, LARPing mestizo. You live to sell your e-texts, and you need new, edgy content that is already established for ease of labor.

inb4 muh Mensa

We will continue to push our narratives because they are true. You know them to be true, which is why you're hostile to them, as you have no place within WN.

You have to go back.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 11:40 AM  

"I advised ignoring them on the basis of differences of opinion and objectives. I never said to ignore direct personal attacks."

*slaps forehead*

Everything he's said about 1488ers from the very beginning has BEEN a direct attack. He said a lot more than just that there's not very many of us. And in his recent speech he called out the Daily Stormer and weev specifically.

Anglin responded to a direct attack with a direct attack. Do you owe Milo so great a favor, that you must step into a fight that he picked?

Anonymous Eduardo September 29, 2016 11:42 AM  

Should Vox Go back to:

a) Minessota
b) Mexico
c) Reservation
d) US of A
e) to the Future

Blogger Fatherless September 29, 2016 11:42 AM  

Building up alternative functional spaces is my primary interest with Vox.

Anonymous Viidad September 29, 2016 11:46 AM  

"you have no place within WN."

Vox, I think you just got outgrouped! NO PLACE, hear him? What will you do???

Anonymous Eduardo September 29, 2016 11:46 AM  

You see Frank... It is already happening ... U_U landmines!!!! You should set one too because it looks like the self implosion will be strong.

OpenID basementhomebrewer September 29, 2016 11:48 AM  

Andrew Jackson wrote:"I'm not trying to co-opt the AltRight but you aren't really the AltRight because I said so now I think I'll help myself to your brand thx."

Nobody is buying it, LARPing mestizo. You live to sell your e-texts, and you need new, edgy content that is already established for ease of labor.



Aaaannnddd there we have it. Jealousy is the real motivation. They have no real success of their own to point at.

Blogger Russell September 29, 2016 11:49 AM  

Viidad wrote:"you have no place within WN."

Vox, I think you just got outgrouped! NO PLACE, hear him? What will you do???


Will Vox even notice?!

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 11:50 AM  

You have to go back.

I'll leave Europe once you leave the USA. You have to go back first.

Anglin responded to a direct attack with a direct attack. Do you owe Milo so great a favor, that you must step into a fight that he picked?

I didn't step in because of Milo. I didn't regard the attack on him as being any problem for him at all. All I did was point out that attacking him wouldn't go any better for the Alt-White than it did for Black Lives Matter. I took sides once I was directly attacked.

Now the Alt-Retards get to fight me and Milo, and all of our many allies, most of whom could have been your allies too.

That's why you're retards. Because you just volunteered to get rebranded. Go ask Gawker how well taking us on worked out for them.

Blogger praetorian September 29, 2016 11:51 AM  

Andrew Jackson fought alongside Indians against the British.

WILL YOU DISAVOW?

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 11:51 AM  

"Vox, I think you just got outgrouped! NO PLACE, hear him? What will you do???"

Not only that, but we won't even invite him to our parties. Even if we form a meetup group in Italy, he just won't be allowed in. We will have a lot of fun, without him.

Anonymous Seventh Son September 29, 2016 11:52 AM  

You should probably walk this back, Vox. A rather unfortunate development here, considering you are now referring to Daily Stormer, the most trafficked site in the alt-right "retards."

Anonymous Viidad September 29, 2016 11:55 AM  

"Even if we form a meetup group in Italy, he just won't be allowed in. We will have a lot of fun, without him."

Doodling swastikas on napkins, measuring skull sizes, trying to decide if the waitress is 1/32 darkie... ought to be a total blast!

Blogger Joshua_D September 29, 2016 11:55 AM  

Next, you guys will be asking Vox to apologize. Hahaha ...

Anonymous Seventh Son September 29, 2016 11:56 AM  

*as "retards."

>when you concerned af and you make a typo tryna defend being called a "retard"

Blogger Joshua_D September 29, 2016 11:56 AM  

Ezekiel Cassandros, how old are you?

Anonymous Eduardo September 29, 2016 11:56 AM  

Ezekiel

Please you are being sarcastic right. You are sounding a bit lonely from my iPhone screen m8.

Anonymous ZhukovG September 29, 2016 11:57 AM  

@170 You don't know much about Vox do you.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 29, 2016 11:59 AM  

If the #altretard had girls, they would already be threatening to not have sex with vox, probably while emailing him pictures.

Blogger Bard September 29, 2016 12:00 PM  

Tutu instead of diaper would have at least been funny.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 29, 2016 12:00 PM  

OOSH, that was brutal.

Blogger Student in Blue September 29, 2016 12:03 PM  

Nobody is buying it, LARPing mestizo. You live to sell your e-texts, and you need new, edgy content that is already established for ease of labor.

Yes, because clearly Vox's success has been solely due to WN. Or even majorly due to WN. Or even affected by WN whatsoever.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 12:03 PM  

Admission is by invitation only, and attendees must present a 23andme test proving they are at least 90% White. Before entering, they must place their hand on a copy of Mein Kampf and swear that they mean "Gas The Kikes, Race War Now" unironically.

I'm sorry, but this means Vox and even some of the rest of you will never be allowed in.

Blogger Paul September 29, 2016 12:03 PM  

I'm not taking sides here, but it's really hard for me to see what's Alt-Right or alt-anything else about the Daily Stormer. Yes, like Girl Scout Troup 132 of Hoboken, NJ they are also very different from the Right, but that's because each, Stormers and Scouts, is uniquely something else in its own right entirely. One might as well say that kohlrabi is Alt-Right.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 29, 2016 12:05 PM  

Seventh Son wrote:You should probably walk this back, Vox. A rather unfortunate development here, considering you are now referring to Daily Stormer, the most trafficked site in the alt-right "retards."

Vox's blog gets ten times their traffic. You really ought to fight East while it's still summer.

I enjoy your show, by the way.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 29, 2016 12:07 PM  

Is that the real seventh son?

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 29, 2016 12:10 PM  

I do want to brag for a minute that I called this back in May.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 12:10 PM  

You should probably walk this back, Vox. A rather unfortunate development here, considering you are now referring to Daily Stormer, the most trafficked site in the alt-right "retards."

I haven't referred to The Daily Stormer at all. If they are dumb enough to attack me too, I certainly won't hesitate to include them with the other #AltRetards. I'm not saying that TRS or TDS, much less the entire Alt-White is Alt-Retard, but there are definitely some Alt-Retards among them.

For the record, I'm not sure The Daily Stormer gets more traffic than I do. I've seen the comparison, but that doesn't include Alpha Game or any of VP's international traffic; the US-only traffic is very close for the two sites. This month, I'm on track for 2.9 million pageviews.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 29, 2016 12:11 PM  

Josh (the gayest thing here) wrote:Is that the real seventh son?

Yeah, he's mentioned on the show that he's a long-time reader, probably found his way here from the Mises Institute.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 12:12 PM  

"Vox's blog gets ten times their traffic. You really ought to fight East while it's still summer."

???
https://www.similarweb.com/website/voxday.blogspot.com?competitors=dailystormer.com#
Numbers aren't entirely accurate, as both Vox and Anglin report higher total traffic numbers, but... where on Earth are you getting the impression that VP gets 10x the traffic of DS?

Blogger Guitar Man September 29, 2016 12:12 PM  

Did the welfare checks and EBT cards run out today? The alt-retards are especially touchy today.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 29, 2016 12:15 PM  

Eduardo wrote:Should Vox Go back to:

a) Minessota
b) Mexico
c) Reservation
d) US of A
e) to the Future


All of the above!

The Black Pill xD

Anonymous Deplorable Difster September 29, 2016 12:16 PM  

I hate AltRetard Nazis.

Anonymous Andrew Fuck Indians, Too Jackson September 29, 2016 12:18 PM  

Vox Day: "n-no you!"

that right-side of the bell curve hard at work, I see.

All of you """"Alt-West"""" faggots are just more of the same: muh culture can be separated from race.

yeah, nah.

"muh blog traffic"

bahaha, how many people tuned in to hear this narcissist last night? less than one hundred?

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 29, 2016 12:20 PM  

Ezekiel Cassandros wrote: but... where on Earth are you getting the impression that VP gets 10x the traffic of DS?

Believe me, I'm a very successful businessman. We're talking huge traffic, you're not gonna believe it.

Meme magic is also susceptible to turnabout. This is a tiny little shot over the bow.

Blogger VD September 29, 2016 12:23 PM  

bahaha, how many people tuned in to hear this narcissist last night? less than one hundred?

288, actually.

the US-only traffic is very close for the two sites

Okay, not that close. I'd guess TDS gets 35 percent more traffic than me, so around 4 million monthly pageviews.

In other words, me and my allies alone dwarf the Alt-White. And that's before Big Fork launches.

Brilliant strategic thinking, guys.

Blogger Student in Blue September 29, 2016 12:27 PM  

@192. Andrew Fuck Indians, Too Jackson

Maybe you should try fighting something just a bit more fearsome than a strawman.

Then again, they might punch back and hurt your widdle fee-fees.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros September 29, 2016 12:27 PM  

"Believe me, I'm a very successful businessman. We're talking huge traffic, you're not gonna believe it.

Meme magic is also susceptible to turnabout. This is a tiny little shot over the bow."

Tracking. But just so you know, a shot like that guarantees that you won't be invited to our private events. Vox too.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) September 29, 2016 12:29 PM  

Did the welfare checks and EBT cards run out today? The alt-retards are especially touchy today.

They dindu nuffin wrong!

Anonymous Interesting September 29, 2016 12:29 PM  

Milo Yiannopoulos defends pedophilia and pedophiles

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