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Sunday, September 25, 2016

Which Cernovich book should you read first?

Mike Cernovich considers the question: which book should you read first? Gorilla Mindset or Danger & Play?
A lot of people ask me whether they should read Gorilla Mindset or Danger & Play: Mike Cernovich’s Guide to Life first. It’s a complicated question, so here’s the short answer:
  • If you are over 18 and enjoy edgier content, read Danger & Play first.
  • If you’re under 18 or want a more accessible, helpful version of me, then read Gorilla Mindset first.
Every man, woman, and child can benefit from Gorilla Mindset. Danger  Play is for dominant adult men and the women who want to understand their mindset. Gorilla Mindset is my general interest book.

Women read Gorilla Mindset. Aggressive alpha men read Gorilla Mindset. Teenagers read it. You could bring Gorilla Mindset to church. There’s zero politics in it. You wouldn’t know which political candidate I support.

Danger & Play is my edgier, aggressive book.

Long-time blog readers prefer Danger & Play to Gorilla Mindset. That doesn’t mean one book is better than the other. As Vox Day observed in his review of Danger & Play:

It’s not a book you would necessarily want to give to a young man under the age of 18. The saltiness and worldliness of the book is not inappropriate, nor is it particularly offensive by modern standards, but it does tend to preclude giving it to teenagers or putting it in your local school library. I didn’t hesitate to have my son read Gorilla Mindset, I would probably wait until he was 18 or 19 to have him read Danger & Play: Essays on Embracing Masculinity.

That’s a fair criticism, and indeed Danger & Play is a niche book.
Actually, it's not criticism at all. It's just aimed at a different, more specific, and older market. I would recommend starting with Gorilla Mindset because it is less personal and more practical. It's advice for your life. Danger & Play, on the other hand, helps you better understand the author of Gorilla Mindset, how he originally derived and developed its lessons, and how he has applied them in his life. In other words, the latter provides a deeper understanding of the former, therefore the former should be read first.

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5 Comments:

Blogger pyrrhus September 25, 2016 12:06 PM  

Danger and Play is free on Kindle Unlimited right now...

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey September 25, 2016 2:45 PM  

Haven't read either yet, so this is helpful. Thanks.

Blogger Rusty Fife September 25, 2016 7:16 PM  

Read Gorilla Mindset and God's Debris from Scott Adams at near the same time. They cover some similar subjects.

Tried the affirmation stuff and it doesn't work for me. Adams said in a blog post that one of important keys to hypnosis (and therefore probably self-hypnosis) is that you _want_ it to work at some level. I expect affirmations are useful if your intellect is language driven.

Self hypnosis is not all that is in Gorilla Mindset; but it is an important part. Lot's of "state control"; I appreciated reading the parts about how what you do effects how you feel. Though only the eating part has head detectable effects.

Anonymous andyknoor September 25, 2016 8:03 PM  

Here's some life advice: divorce a rich lawyer and do it in a community property state, then live of the alimony like Cernobitch.

Blogger Orville September 26, 2016 8:10 AM  

Tried the affirmation stuff and it doesn't work for me. Adams said in a blog post that one of important keys to hypnosis (and therefore probably self-hypnosis) is that you _want_ it to work at some level. I expect affirmations are useful if your intellect is language driven.

Mileage may vary. I think you have to stick with it for some months to see some benefit. I see affirmations as more of a mind focusing device, not some magical doohickey.

But I think you are right Rusty that will is key, and I think of affirmations as an exercise in willfulness. Some people start out as the 90 pound weakling in the will department, but they can eventually lift their way out of it.

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