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Wednesday, October 12, 2016

An interview with the BBC

I decided to violate my usual no-interviews policy today because the interview requested didn't concern me, but rather, Donald Trump. BBC World was looking for Americans outside the USA who support Donald Trump, and a producer discovered my debate with Louise Mensch on Heat Street concerning the subject.

I don't expect the interview to air, because if there is one thing the media does not want to hear right now, it is that a few remarks about women, however unpalatable, aren't going to change any rational individual's mind about Donald Trump. At worst, they indicate that Trump would be a president in the mode of Bill Clinton and Jack Kennedy rather than Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter.

And while it may be true that having a President who is prone to bawdy banter would be bad for women, do you know what is really bad for women? Being raped by immigrants. And do you know what is even worse for women? Being nuked by Russian missiles.

As I told the host, there are only two issues that matter in this presidential election:
  • Immigration
  • War with Russia
On both issues, Donald Trump is the much, much better candidate than Hillary Clinton, who as Secretary of State laid the groundwork for the current war-by-proxy the US military is waging against Russia in Syria and Ukraine.

As I told him, if you are a European, if you are British, regardless of what you think of the man personally, you should not be hoping that Donald Trump is the next U.S. President, you should be praying that he is. Because neither immigration nor war with Russia will be to your benefit either.

So, yeah, I tend to doubt it will ever see air.

On a tangentially-related note, someone mentioned on Monday that a comprehensive list of anti-Trump Republicans would be useful going forward. Lo and behold, there is now a comprehensive list of anti-Trump Republicans available on Infogalactic.

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114 Comments:

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 12, 2016 8:11 AM  

The news of the deepening crisis isn't getting much air play. I doubt most Americans are even aware of how fragile the situation is. Too worked up over a man saying "pussy" 11 years ago. And now this morning, the new polls all show Trump catering. Even the LA Times poll that he has led since Sept. 11th, he is now behind in.

We are absolutely fucked. Americans are actually going to elect that crazy bitch as President. I hate my country right now.

Anonymous ODG October 12, 2016 8:13 AM  

And of course you recorded your own copy of the interview...

Blogger residentMoron October 12, 2016 8:14 AM  

@1 It's not over yet

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric October 12, 2016 8:15 AM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:And now this morning, the new polls all show Trump catering.
I'll have the Trump steak, medium rare.

Anonymous Deplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair October 12, 2016 8:17 AM  

@2 either that or he'll provide us with a link.

Anonymous VFMUltra October 12, 2016 8:18 AM  

Mormonism has utterly ruined Utah. Californication could not happen fast enough to that Land o' Cucks.

Blogger VFM #407 October 12, 2016 8:20 AM  

"An interview with the BBC"

That's Milo's favorite kind of interview!

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 12, 2016 8:21 AM  

@3: Oh, I know. Still some time to turn things around. But you know the Dems and the media are going to go all out with their assaults now. Paul Begala and Buzzfeed are spreading the "Trump walked into a locker room with naked teens" this morning. These people are experts are destroying candidates, and they have the media on their side. Repubs are too busy stabbing each other in the back and being quislings to mount any defense or fight back. Trump has to fight everyone alone. It might just be too much.

I have to imagine the GOP is done as a national party. The only consolation is the Dems are going to start having issues too, once their people don't have the Republicans to fight much anymore and they starting asserting their identity politics and fighting each other.

Oh, did you know ISIS used drone to attack soldiers yesterday. But Trump said "pussy".

Un-freakin-believable.

Anonymous #8601 October 12, 2016 8:25 AM  

I’m not sure if William White from Gab is outside the USA but he might also be worth interviewing. Trump’s policy stance on pussy was the reason he became a staunch supporter. His top five policy issues are:

1. Pussy
2. Immigration
3. Border security
4. Supreme Court
5. Trade

Anonymous Man of the Atom October 12, 2016 8:42 AM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:@3: Oh, I know. Still some time to turn things around. But you know the Dems and the media are going to go all out with their assaults now. Paul Begala and Buzzfeed are spreading the "Trump walked into a locker room with naked teens" this morning. These people are experts are destroying candidates, and they have the media on their side. Repubs are too busy stabbing each other in the back and being quislings to mount any defense or fight back. Trump has to fight everyone alone. It might just be too much.

I have to imagine the GOP is done as a national party. The only consolation is the Dems are going to start having issues too, once their people don't have the Republicans to fight much anymore and they starting asserting their identity politics and fighting each other.


So go do something about it. Talk to someone who is a waffler, stand up for Trump in a discussion, show a fence sitter how the polls are skewed, start rhetorically eviscerating Leftists in front of the undecided. Show some strength to inspire others to be strong. Whining gets no one anything.

The Eyore Mentality does just the opposite. Lose it.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable October 12, 2016 8:47 AM  

Great page. This is a brilliant use for Infogalactic, and I guarantee many more such opportunities will present themselves.

Anonymous Dave October 12, 2016 8:48 AM  

Fer sure no president has ever talked that way before. JFK was like "Ms. Monroe is a really swell actress and she has the most beautiful smile. I hope to meet her someday and discuss her craft."

Anonymous Sam the Man October 12, 2016 8:54 AM  

Hate to say it but the left has done a good job with this release. Even the LA poll that showed Trump up by 3~4 points now has him down by .4 this morning.

I belong to a gun club and a lot of the nitwits are mouthing crap they have heard on the media. I think the 3 month hate session has worked. There is no discussion about the issues and all the discussion is on minutia.

I am afraid that he public dislike of Trump will trump the issues. Unless this is all an effort to dissuade the right from voting out of a sense of hopelessness.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 12, 2016 8:55 AM  

So go do something about it. Talk to someone who is a waffler, stand up for Trump in a discussion, show a fence sitter how the polls are skewed, start rhetorically eviscerating Leftists in front of the undecided. Show some strength to inspire others to be strong. Whining gets no one anything.

The Eyore Mentality does just the opposite. Lose it.


Yeah, I get you. But have you ever tried to talk a woman out of voting for Hillary? I have. Very difficult. Tell them they are going to be raped by new muslim immigrants. They don't believe you. Until it starts happening here, they all live in "it won't happen here" land.

Also, when Florida reports that 440,000 new Hispanic voter registration went 2-1 to the Democrats, you have to see the writing on the wall. Time to start destroying the Democratic party and breaking them up. We'd be better off with several factions fighting than the two party stranglehold that exists now and that we cannot win at a national level.

Blogger VD October 12, 2016 9:01 AM  

Yeah, I get you. But have you ever tried to talk a woman out of voting for Hillary? I have. Very difficult. Tell them they are going to be raped by new muslim immigrants. They don't believe you. Until it starts happening here, they all live in "it won't happen here" land.

If Trump fails, he fails. So be it. Get ready to have a good time in Westworld. Show neither sympathy nor mercy. Americans have literally demanded their fate. One can't honestly say they don't deserve it.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 12, 2016 9:01 AM  

On a tangentially-related note, someone mentioned on Monday that a comprehensive list of anti-Trump Republicans would be useful going forward. Lo and behold, there is now a comprehensive list of anti-Trump Republicans available on Infogalactic.

There are some names on that list that I find very disappointing. Identity Politics to do not come instinctively to Libertarins. Trust me I get that and sometimes it's struggle for me as well.

Other names on that list aren't in the least surprising or disappointing.

When I look at the Donald Trump attempted coup, I am forcefully reminded of the stages of an SJW Attack as postulated by Vox Day.


1. Locate or Create a Violation of the Narrative.
2. Point and Shriek.
3. Isolate and Swarm.
4. Reject and Transform.
5. Press for Surrender.
6. Appeal to Amenable Authority.
7. Show Trial.
8. Victory Parade.


Paul Ryan and Bill Krystal aren't attempting to do these things. They ARE doing these thing.

Anonymous Steve October 12, 2016 9:03 AM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist -

1) Be not afraid

2) Trump might win, might not. Nobody knows and the polls are mostly bullshit. Especially the 14 point Hillary lead one that was written by her Super PAC. The LA Times poll is still showing it well within the margin of error - which is where it's always been.

However, I reckon Trump will pull off a narrow victory which may even be a Trumpslide depending on electoral college maths.

Has there ever been a major party presidential candidate less enthusiastically received than Clinton? Even Alf Landon got more people to his rallies.

The Clinton campaign is all media astroturfing and cuck shenanigans.

It's a pretty stark choice for the electorate: a sick, hateful old woman and the status quo, or fuck the establishment and MAGA.

I expect the majority of voters, in the privacy of the polling booth, to choose Daddy.

Anonymous fire October 12, 2016 9:06 AM  

Eh, what will be done will be done. Truly if the country considers bad think about women from a man worse than rape, murder and treason from a woman they diserve the worse that is coming to them.

Blogger The Kurgan October 12, 2016 9:14 AM  

Infogalactic is becoming so useful so fast.

Blogger Johnny October 12, 2016 9:14 AM  

I now doubt Trump will produce a majority and maybe he knows he can't. That would be why he is going all out Trump. Might as well make a statement. The good news is that he has caused a lot of eyes to pop open. People who only thought they were being lied to now know they are being lied to with certainty.

What will turn the tide on this stuff is that we are following policies that are genuinely self destructive. Apparently we have to wait for the destruction to occur.

Lets hope it isn't nuclear war because it really could be with Hildabeast in charge. The Russians have discovered that giving ground to us is a losing game, and they may not be willing to. Insane for us to push things in Syria considering how little we have at stake, but could happen.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 12, 2016 9:17 AM  

@17: I'm not afraid, I'm absolutely furious. I have children. I can't emigrate. I would have liked them to have a chance to grow up in a decent country.

But you know? I--a Midwesterner raised to believe in good manners, Christian charity, loving your neighbor, and the American flag, find myself vigorously nodding my head when Vox says, "Show neither sympathy nor mercy."

Prepare for the worst and BURN IT ALL DOWN. ALL OF IT. Even if I go with it.

Anonymous Just another commenter October 12, 2016 9:20 AM  

Perhaps your interview won't air. But imagine how shaken the person giving it will be when, if the Hillary wins (fair or foul), and nuclear or major war DOES break out. Suddenly said interviewer will have the epiphany that you were right. And if you were right about that, O.M.G.... what else might you have been correct about.

On the bright side, with any luck, the Republican Party may well be destroyed by this election, win OR lose. On the dark side, I've little confidence that the party that replaces it will be a nice; nice isn't getting it done.

Blogger Bard October 12, 2016 9:26 AM  

If Trump doesn't win, and I say IF, what comes next will be glorious in its brutality both for and against us.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 12, 2016 9:27 AM  

So the sleaze has produced a Trump dip and its tied. By this time in 2012 all the GOPe had to say was the polls are wrong.

Trump still has an advertising budget which is mostly intact and unspent there is that.

Anonymous Bagger Vance October 12, 2016 9:35 AM  

I took the gamble of contacting Nature magazine after they twittered asking for scientist Trump supporters (as Vox linked). I was promised confidentiality so hopefully no real risk to me but while I'm not very eloquent in my support I wanted to try to get at least one man-on-the-street scientist opinion that was pro-Trump out there. I doubt it'll do much but if it can counter the idea that highly educated people don't support him, that's all I can do.

Blogger residentMoron October 12, 2016 9:35 AM  

UC

They were always going to do this. They're liars, thieves, and murderers. Their polls are lies.

I understand your anger but focus it where it makes a difference, is all I'll say.

Like your name, btw.

Anonymous 0007 October 12, 2016 9:35 AM  

The problem is that that the hildebeast and her ignorant handlers all think that war with Russia will be like fighting war(s) in the ME. Throw a few white-rednecks over there to die and with the media kissing your ass nobody will care. They do not have the slightest clue and have obviously never read anything about Russia and Napoleon or how they acted in WWI or WWII. The only thing I see for the good here is that a whole lot of democraps and their followers are going to burn if/when war with Russia comes here. Hell, there are(supposedly) still Russian supply dumps(with backpack nukes) in this country from the last cold war. And I doubt that the one hillershit & friends are ginning up will be cold for very long.
I wish I didn't live so close to SOCOM central.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 12, 2016 9:36 AM  

100%.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis October 12, 2016 9:37 AM  

I believe that if Clinton is elected the USA and Russia WILL have a nuclear war. The US MSM is pretty much ignoring the warning signs, but you can see them in European and Russian media. For example:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-nuclear-idUSKCN1230YN

http://www.globalresearch.ca/moscow-prepared-for-possible-nuclear-attack-statement-of-russian-emergency-situations-ministry-emercom/5549105

https://geopolitics.co/2016/10/04/russia-conducting-nuclear-drills-after-us-threatens-attacks-on-its-cities/

en.mchs.ru/mass_media/news/item/32916958/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833941/Russia-orders-officials-fly-home-relatives-living-abroad-tensions-mount-prospect-global-war.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-us-nuclear-war-vladimir-putin-barack-obama-ukraine-dmitry-kiselyov-warning-a7355226.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/08/russia-confirms-deployment-of-nuclear-capable-missiles-to-kaliningrad

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2016 9:38 AM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:Also, when Florida reports that 440,000 new Hispanic voter registration went 2-1 to the Democrats, you have to see the writing on the wall. Time to start destroying the Democratic party and breaking them up. We'd be better off with several factions fighting than the two party stranglehold that exists now and that we cannot win at a national level.

Trump and the destruction of the Gay Old Pedophiles has been great fun, but it's time to forget the races for federal office and concentrate on putting men in your state legislature who will stand up to the feds. Elect a governor and a state senator who will jail federal agents when they attack you.

Talking up Trump in the mean time is fun and even productive, but it isn't a sound long term plan.

Blogger Tino October 12, 2016 9:39 AM  

I have put a request in thru a lateral mechanism to a highly placed Brit. We shall see if a good kick in the arse at the BBC might help it air.... Keep at it Vox. Keep at it.

Blogger Tino October 12, 2016 9:41 AM  

@0007 I am well within a 10-megaton blast range of the Pentagon. I share your WW3 misgivings!

Blogger Harold October 12, 2016 9:43 AM  

Out of curiosity, earlier in the polling season it was reported that an unprecedented number of people were telling the pollsters they had made up their mind, but they weren't going to tell the pollsters for who. I haven't seen anything of that as of late. Anyone know if that's still going on? The typical non-response is complete non-response, not I made up my mind and I'm not telling you.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 12, 2016 9:44 AM  

I give odds if we have a President Hag of 3-2 that Putin bluffs her, he is an Alpha and she is outside of the usual bitter hag gossipy destructive ways still a woman with a love hate relationship to strength and will fold.

Women in power mostly conform to their sex's way of battle, small minded, petty and vindictive not throwdown and fight.

Anonymous Jordi October 12, 2016 9:47 AM  

Will Paul Ryan join the RAT list ?

Anonymous Broken Arrow October 12, 2016 9:49 AM  

@1 Yes, Trump is going to lose. He came really close, but the tape ultimately sank him. His support amongst Evangelicals has cratered and while they are about to be mostly irrelevant in future elections in the USA they still count in this one.

Trump is fighting a three front war now: Hillary, the MSM, and now the GOP Establishment.

Blogger Duke Norfolk October 12, 2016 9:51 AM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:But you know? I--a Midwesterner raised to believe in good manners, Christian charity, loving your neighbor, and the American flag, find myself vigorously nodding my head when Vox says, "Show neither sympathy nor mercy."

Yep, ditto. I feel the "K" rising up to ever higher levels in me.

Anonymous RabidRatel October 12, 2016 9:52 AM  

Deplorable Gaiseric wrote:Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:And now this morning, the new polls all show Trump catering.

I'll have the Trump steak, medium rare.


Make that two, and mine with a side order of baked potatoes.

Oh, yes, and plenty popcorn!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 12, 2016 9:55 AM  

I am reading a bunch of lesser betas and lower rationalizing the craziness of the office gossip lead bitch. It's pretty weak boys

Let's get it straight if you cannot handle the office coven then you have problems if Trump's campaign cannot handle the office coven we have a problem.

Game out it folks, these people are nothing but predictable

Blogger Duke Norfolk October 12, 2016 9:56 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:it's time to forget the races for federal office and concentrate on putting men in your state legislature who will stand up to the feds. Elect a governor and a state senator who will jail federal agents when they attack you.

Indeed. State nullification is a key tool in the current/coming fight. It's already happening in small bits, so that's been encouraging. For anybody not familiar with it, see Tom Woods' book on the topic for very good primer (and his podcasts on that topic too).

Anonymous Nathanael October 12, 2016 9:57 AM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:And now this morning, the new polls all show Trump catering. Even the LA Times poll that he has led since Sept. 11th, he is now behind in.

Don't believe the polls, they are thoroughly rigged. No different from simply making up numbers at this point. Latest Reuters poll has Hillary up by 8 points... by oversampling Democrats by 13 points. Now Trump may still lose because the Cucks are intentionally suppressing Trump voter turnout and the Democrats are actively engaging in election fraud, but the polls themselves are wildly inaccurate.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2016 9:57 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Women in power mostly conform to their sex's way of battle, small minded, petty and vindictive...

Their sex's way of battle is ``Let's you and him fight.' Hillary will be eager to send others' sons into battle.

Anonymous Broken Arrow October 12, 2016 10:10 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:
Trump and the destruction of the Gay Old Pedophiles has been great fun, but it's time to forget the races for federal office and concentrate on putting men in your state legislature who will stand up to the feds. Elect a governor and a state senator who will jail federal agents when they attack you.

Talking up Trump in the mean time is fun and even productive, but it isn't a sound long term plan.


Do you realize this is exactly what the Cucks have been saying before this election cycle? Support your local GOP politicians to stop Obama.

This is the dilemma for the Trump supporter now which is why some are vowing to vote democrat instead: if you vote GOP down ticket to stop Hillary you are supporting the same establishment which is taking down Trump.

The Stalin style purges by the Cucks of the Donald supporters will be brutal. The GOP is certainly going to change, and the elites are never going to let this happen again.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 12, 2016 10:13 AM  

So all the Ds have is a slow drip of sexual non-prudery and the office gossip bitches are running with prudery today (sluttery tommorow) I'm pretty sure the great American electoral beast will bore of it and anyone mentioning it will be out of step with the latest buzz.

It's womanly gossip and you intellectuals per usual are rationalizing it and making it more than it is, hell I expect soon someone will be posting scientific studies of testosterone levels in older men and how Trump's is higher than average.

You belittle the office gossip and reduce her in the female hierarchy.

Blogger Alexander October 12, 2016 10:14 AM  

I'd say the only way we avoid war with Russia with Hillary in charge is if he's got enough dirt to completely sink her and she just caves.

I'm also having to reconsider that whole Eastern-Asia IQ thing. I can completely understand why Hispanics, Muslims, and Gibs-me-Googles vote Democrat. But if your identity loyalty involves Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, etc. etc. ... Then fighting another (((humanitarian war))) only this time involving Russia seems like a good way to see your actual country become a Chinese puppet.

Exploiting other people's countries and people is a hostile act; doing it and then not getting the payout anyway is beyond retarded.

Blogger Alexander October 12, 2016 10:15 AM  

@43

Agreed. The GOP sunk the ship. It is therefore our duty to burn the lifeboats.

Anonymous Man of the Atom October 12, 2016 10:18 AM  

Broken Arrow wrote:Ominous Cowherd wrote:

Trump and the destruction of the Gay Old Pedophiles has been great fun, but it's time to forget the races for federal office and concentrate on putting men in your state legislature who will stand up to the feds. Elect a governor and a state senator who will jail federal agents when they attack you.

Talking up Trump in the mean time is fun and even productive, but it isn't a sound long term plan.


Do you realize this is exactly what the Cucks have been saying before this election cycle? Support your local GOP politicians to stop Obama.

This is the dilemma for the Trump supporter now which is why some are vowing to vote democrat instead: if you vote GOP down ticket to stop Hillary you are supporting the same establishment which is taking down Trump.

The Stalin style purges by the Cucks of the Donald supporters will be brutal. The GOP is certainly going to change, and the elites are never going to let this happen again.


Right. Just give up. Damn.

Vote against the down-ticket GOP and Dem candidates -- write in anyone else. The Dem wins, and the GOP takes it in the shorts, then support Alt-Right against them next go-round. Destroy the GOP then go after the Dems.

Did you think this would be easy? Did you think they'd just surrender when we stood up? They will fight for their careers, their graft, their power, and their ideologies tooth and nail until they are removed.

Prepare to do the same. This won't be pretty or easy, but we can win.

Blogger Lazarus October 12, 2016 10:18 AM  

Broken Arrow wrote:Trump is fighting a three front war now: Hillary, the MSM, and now the GOP Establishment.

He was doing that from the beginning.

Never mind. They can disembowel him like in Braveheart, but they can't take his freedom, yes?

Anonymous Faceless October 12, 2016 10:20 AM  

Timely advice for the Hillary Clinton years:

The Fallout guy sticks out his thumb like that to determine whether he's within the range of the worst fallout or not. The old rule of thumb was - if your thumb covers the mushroom cloud at arms length, shelter in place. If it doesn't, run away.

I hope that they at least get the early access versions of Wasteland 3 out before Putin must set the world right.

Anonymous #8601 October 12, 2016 10:21 AM  

With the polls and the mainstream sentiment remaining in Hillary's favor, this is working out perfectly

The Trumpslide will be sweet indeed.

Anonymous Frederick October 12, 2016 10:23 AM  

Many do deserve it certainly. But how do you reconcile the mob's inclination towards self destruction with your advocacy for direct democracy? As you stated in your previous post, even the worst European monarchs didn't hate their own as much as our current country women hate us. Wouldn't the non-tards among us still suffer more from being ruled by the whims of MPAI?

Blogger Were-Puppy October 12, 2016 10:25 AM  

On a tangentially-related note, someone mentioned on Monday that a comprehensive list of anti-Trump Republicans would be useful going forward. Lo and behold, there is now a comprehensive list of anti-Trump Republicans available on Infogalactic.
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TY for this saves me a lot of trouble!

Anonymous Kevin October 12, 2016 10:26 AM  

Trump will lose just as predicted by most political watchers. When running against a criminal you run clean and young and hopeful. The alt-right chose bitter and anger. The tea party choose many awful candidates when they first appeared and lost many elections as they learned the process. Also won many that created a congress that has mostly kept Obama from any other major legislation. The Alt-right will learn to vote less emotionally in the future and likely given where things are headed may eat the dying GOP.

Ultimately voters are the problem- voters want corruption and free stuff. That's not going to change.

The crudeness of Trump had a surprising impact on many smart people I know. I am more anti evil criminal because I believe in good governement if we are going to have it more than I care for Trump but his comments are meaningless. But lots of my friends on the fence went third party after those comments. Maybe it's just the straw that broke the camels back confirming their concerns about him. Meanwhile every day more and more criminality from that old hag and Americans don't care. And that's the ultimate problem - as a country we want goodies more than we want a good nation.

Blogger Mocheirge October 12, 2016 10:29 AM  

Broken Arrow wrote:Trump is fighting a three front war now: Hillary, the MSM, and now the GOP Establishment.

Eh... "now"? Those were always battle lines for us. And not the only ones.

Blogger Johnny October 12, 2016 10:29 AM  

@48
Lazarus wrote:They can disembowel him like in Braveheart, but they can't take his freedom, yes?

In real life, not the movies, disembowelment is good enough. Whole empires that run on fear has lasted for centuries. To roughly quote Machiavelli: You can rule because your subjects love you and you can rule because you subjects fear you, and fear is safer.

Anonymous Laz October 12, 2016 10:30 AM  

@Tino: Try living in Oak Ridge, TN. It's where we store the majority of the fissionable material.

Blogger chris October 12, 2016 10:31 AM  

@53 Worst case scenario is Trump loses but shows the way is clear for a nationalist candidate to win and so Trump funds his/her campaign.

Anonymous Broken Arrow October 12, 2016 10:32 AM  

@47 I don't think anyone should give up. Hillary with all of her scandals is going to enter office extremely weak. The GOP has to solve the civil war in its ranks and figure out what to do with the neo-cons who support Hillary, and the working class whites who hate the leadership. Evangelicals under 50 are about to quit both parties for good and go their own way for the most part. Russia might invade Ukraine. Crazy times.

Blogger Mom October 12, 2016 10:38 AM  

@42 Not only sons - daughters too.

Anonymous AmStrat October 12, 2016 10:39 AM  

The shilling/despair in these comments is REAL

Blogger Were-Puppy October 12, 2016 10:41 AM  

@21 Undocumented Civilizationalist

Prepare for the worst and BURN IT ALL DOWN. ALL OF IT. Even if I go with it.
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Reminds me of that time I asked "where do ultras come from?"

If friendly folks like us are getting to the burn it down point, imagine those who weren't so friendly to begin with.

BUT - I do not agree with all this negative assessment of the situation.

Trump is Trump. People are fighting for him in various ways. Even the hacker groups all seems to be firing on his enemies.

If he doesn't win, then it will be a shame, but that means we all need to double and triple down and start working over all these b@$t@rds as they have so kindly provided us with lists of their names.

Anonymous Eric the Red October 12, 2016 10:41 AM  

The polls are meaningless not because they are incorrect (which may still be true), but because the race will go to whoever has the most voters actually turn up. With uncertainty and apathy on the Dem side, a yuge turnout of Trump supporters would make a difference.

The only issue remaining then becomes voter fraud. Here the Dems are experts. I sincerely hope that Trump has been quietly putting in place some kind of machine to monitor each step of the process... including absentees.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 12, 2016 10:43 AM  

Jesus some of you give up easily. You'd have been a great audience for Tokyo Rose.

Anonymous Sazerac October 12, 2016 10:44 AM  

Kevin: You're wrong. There wont be any moderation on this ride. Do you have any actual idea of where this will head when the economic myth comes crashing down.

The K stimuli we are being exposed to is getting worse and worse. They keep pushing the boundaries and eventually they will hit a red line were the K selected push back. That K irritation doesn't just go away. Once you see the immigrant and traitor shitting on your culture and family you can't unsee it.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 12, 2016 10:44 AM  

I'm in shock over how many people are willing to characterize Trump's comments as describing assault. If the public is that obtuse, they deserve a literal and figurative rape from Hillary's policies.

Anonymous BGKB October 12, 2016 10:48 AM  

You should say that if America gets to the point like Rotherham UK were cops ignored 3rd world moslems raping indigenous little white girls, what will they do for puffs like MILO when a mad moslem shoots up a gay bar bathroom? Especially since the current policy is to do nothing for 3 hours as seen in Orlando.

So go do something about it. Talk to someone who is a waffler, stand up for Trump in a discussion,

Heckle a dyke with LGBT with HERpes shirt on. "You might think you are safe because moslems only behead gays, but the Washington mall shooter that killed 4 unveiled women was a moslem"

major war DOES break out. Suddenly said interviewer will have the epiphany that you were right.

Refusegees bringing drug resistant AIDS into the US this year still doesn't mean I was right about why we shouldn't have lifted the HIV travel ban.

on putting men in your state legislature who will stand up to the feds

Feds are going after Sherriff Joe from New Mexico because he enforced the law.

Anonymous Andrew E. October 12, 2016 10:51 AM  

Surprising that so many here (supposedly woke) imbibe the evil/lying Corporate media. Did WWII soldiers pay mind to Tokyo Rose? It's poison and lies. It is of the devil. Tune it all out. And make sure your friends and family (the people you have personal influence over) know what's what.

Take joy in this moment. We are weeks away from glorious victory.

Blogger Sillon Bono October 12, 2016 10:51 AM  

@53 The shills are in force everywhere on the interwebs where they can land comments.

It seems the corporate trolling industry is having a boon with the election.

Shills, enjoy your bonus while they last.

I hope one of you at least is clever enough to profit publishing a book and tell the story from the inside.

Anonymous Sazerac October 12, 2016 10:52 AM  

Ryan has the look of a gamma with the thousand cuck stare.

After being a failed VP, last choice leader and despised back stabbing coward that keeps giving in to the Democrats he actually thought he was secret king enough to be the frontrunner and winner in the 2020 election.

Blogger Cicatrizatic October 12, 2016 10:52 AM  

Latest Wikileak dump: here is the ad idea Louise Mensch emailed to Hillary's ad agency:

OUR TIME A succession of mostly young women, a few old women, one with a baby daughter, multiracial and multi-occupation, to include a nurse and a woman in uniform of some kind where permitted... one after the other, smiling and looking to camera and saying 'It's our time.' and the last woman says, 'It's our time. I'm with her.' fade to banner credit 'Hillary 2016'

Blogger VD October 12, 2016 10:53 AM  

Many do deserve it certainly. But how do you reconcile the mob's inclination towards self destruction with your advocacy for direct democracy?

I've spelled it out specifically before, repeatedly. I have no intention of explaining it yet AGAIN for the benefit of those who can't figure out the obvious.

Blogger Lazarus October 12, 2016 10:56 AM  

Kevin wrote:But lots of my friends on the fence went third party after those comments.

Not a problem. Just keep a hard copy list of their names for afterwards. Someone will contact you anon.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 12, 2016 11:01 AM  

So we have last week of the election cycle sleaze just happens to come out a month before the election. I hate to pull the ingenious plan trick out of the bag but me thinks Trump's camp pulled this off. Could he have manipulated Ryan and his cucks into dropping it early somehow? I initially thought the Hillary camp initiated pussygate but it points to RyanRomneyBush.

Some of you people are astonishing in your panic.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 12, 2016 11:02 AM  

When I hear of Ryan's principled opposition, I think two things: one part of me wants to listen, be real nice and consider his arguments; the other part wonders what his head would look like on a stick.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii October 12, 2016 11:04 AM  

I intend to vote early and often (the reports of my demise were greatly exaggerated but "They" believed those reports). ;-)

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2016 11:13 AM  

Broken Arrow wrote:Do you realize this is exactly what the Cucks have been saying before this election cycle? Support your local GOP politicians to stop Obama.

This is the dilemma for the Trump supporter now which is why some are vowing to vote democrat instead: if you vote GOP down ticket to stop Hillary you are supporting the same establishment which is taking down Trump.


No! Don't vote GOP down-ticket; that's what got us into this mess. We voted our way into it, and more voting won't get us out.

If we can't elect a few good men in a few state races, how do you imagine we will do it on a national scale? Vote with an eye to secession, not with the expectation that you will restore the Founders' Republic by sending the right messiah to DC.

Politics is preparation for civil war. Prep your state by getting your state government on your side.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 12, 2016 11:14 AM  

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865664606/Poll-Trump-falls-into-tie-with-Clinton-among-Utah-voters.html?pg=all

I've never liked Mormons much...

Oh, and Vox, did you see the Wikileaks email this morning that shows that Louise Mensch was secretly writing ads for Hillary? LOL. Just found that funny...

Anonymous Drummergirl October 12, 2016 11:14 AM  

Many of the people I've talked to (most of them women) are not changing their vote because of the "pussy" tape. In fact, we've had a good laugh at many of the memes it's inspired. It's certainly given Trump haters ammunition, but these are people who were never going to vote for him anyway. I am inclined to ignore most of the polls since I think they are a tool being used to create a reality desired by MSM/Dems, rather than reflect actual reality.

Blogger RobertT October 12, 2016 11:20 AM  

LOL twitter hates you. They won't even let me link to your web posts. Message says it looks programmed.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2016 11:21 AM  

Mom wrote:@42 Not only sons - daughters too.

Most of those female ``soldiers'' will be too pregnant to deploy if there is an actual war. When playing soldier turns into the real thing, the girls playing dressup will get pregnant, and go home. A whole lot of GIs are going to get lucky the first day or two of the war.

Don't expect those mixed-sex combat units to be mixed on the front lines.

Anonymous Andrew E. October 12, 2016 11:25 AM  

No! Don't vote GOP down-ticket; that's what got us into this mess. We voted our way into it, and more voting won't get us out.

Take your direction on this from our leader. If Trump tweets against someone then vote against that person. If he doesn't, don't. So far, that is Ryan and McCain.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 12, 2016 11:42 AM  

I've said this is either the last election of the old era (Clinton wins) or the first of the new era (Trump wins). The republican party as it is doesn't survive this election either way, and once its cockishness is out of the way, the door is open to realign politics along the interest divide between the people rather than the politicians. So the Dem party goes away too.

The only difference is how soon building the new coalitions start. And whether we have a war with Russia. Oh yeah, that.

Blogger Montrose October 12, 2016 11:45 AM  

Americans have perhaps had it a bit too easy for a bit too long. Kinda like Sweden.

They do not appreciate the work and sacrifice their ancestors put in; and they have been eating their seed grain for a bit too long now.

Blogger Teri October 12, 2016 11:49 AM  

Jerry Falwell Jr implies it came from Romney and that he contacted the Trump campaign with the info he had.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III October 12, 2016 11:54 AM  

People in despair, do not forget that you have a much longer memory than the public at large.

There will be 5+ more "major news story" cycles before the election.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 12, 2016 11:56 AM  

Broken Arrow wrote:This is the dilemma for the Trump supporter now which is why some are vowing to vote democrat instead: if you vote GOP down ticket to stop Hillary you are supporting the same establishment which is taking down Trump.
My congresswoman announced on Friday that she would be writing in Paul Ryan. I emailed her with the message;
"You have betrayed your party's candidate, you have betrayed the party, you have betrayed your constituents, you have betrayed Conservatism, you have betrayed me, and you have betrayed our country. There is a penalty for treason. I will be voting for a Democrat for Congress for the first time in my life. To be honest I don't even know who the Democrat candidate is, but that doesn't matter at this point. Whoever it is will be better than you. I will likewise be encouraging everyone I know to vote for the Democrat.
I don't know what Ryan promised you, but I hope it was worth the end of your political career."

They must be punished.

Anonymous Broken Arrow October 12, 2016 12:04 PM  

Trump now trails where Romney was against Obama at the same time in 2012 against Hillary. In other words, he's set up to take a worse loss than Romney did against Obama. It's going to be an electoral college bloodbath.

What's even worse for the GOP is that the down ballot candidates are in trouble. Democrats currently lead Republicans by an average of 4 points on generic House polling.

Trump really did burn down the GOP.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 12, 2016 12:10 PM  

Hillary Rodan Robot Clinton and her various hirelings, including Louise Mensch, are clearly playing the "misogyny" card to influence single women voters who trend Dem and married women voters who trend Rep. Oh, and pedestalizing beta White Knights but they will follow their women's instructions anyway.

So this is the most likely trajectory for the next few weeks, some kind of word / action from Trump's past that can be spun as misOGyny by the lapdog press.

Meanwhile it looks like Assange has opted for a constant drip-drip-drip of email leaks that show just how sleazy Hillary Rodan Robot and her toadies really are. Today we learn again how much of the press is in the tank for her, we learn how many "neutrals" are really her lackeys, and we see that "Bill == Rapist" is going viral. Everywhere Rodan goes she's encountering men and women proclaiming her partner in crime is a rapist.

This meme is actually more damaging to Clinton plans than the Pepe's, because the demographic she's relying on is single women and to a lesser extent married women. Rubbing Bill Clinton's rough trade with Juanita Brodderick, Kathleen WIlley and others in voters faces over and over again is another drip-drip-drip.

Women can forgive a man who gets some on the side. They don't have the same attitude about a man who takes some on the side, and sneers "Better put some ice on that..." on the way out the door.

More T-shirts with Bill Clinton's picture over the word "RAPIST" are clearly needed.

Is anyone surprised really if it for sure turns out that Mittens Romney was behind the pussygrab tape release? The GOPe cucks are frantic to keep populism out of their private club. That is because they are stupid and have not been paying attention to demographics for the last 20 or 30 years. One way or another, they will be moved aside.

Now, what will we learn next about Hillary Rodan Robot Clinton, I wonder? Whatever it is, be sure to laugh.

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 12, 2016 12:15 PM  

LA Times shows a tie for what that is worth.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 12, 2016 12:16 PM  

Broken Arrow wrote:Trump really did burn down the GOP.
No, Ryan, Romney and Bush as well as Adelson, the Chamber, Fox News, and the Koch brothers are burning down the GOP. Better to destroy the party than to lose control of it.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper October 12, 2016 12:18 PM  

Don't waste time on despair. It is as they say the council of the enemy

Trump still has several weeks, more wikileaks drops and another debate.

Even now after all this he is roughly tied in the legacy media polls.

Besides Trump win or lose isn't a solution, he never was. He was delaying action with a chance at a Hail Mary pass. Civil war, collapse or worse are nearly inevitable no matter what happens.

Accept it, work and pray for Trump and move on. If/when things go to hell, be comforted that if you get power you'll have a lot of opportunities for revenge

Blogger Jewel October 12, 2016 12:19 PM  

Start recording interviews that don't air, so that they will air.

Anonymous Tipsy October 12, 2016 1:14 PM  

One of the narratives that the left pushes is that wars will cease once women take the reins of power. Turns out, though, that studies of European monarchs show that women are more likely to start wars than men.

Here's C.S. Lewis as to why (which should be obvious to any married man):

"The relations of the family to the outer world--what might be called its foreign policy--must depend, in the last resort, upon the man, because he always ought to be, and usually is, much more just to the outsiders. A woman is primarily fighting for her own children and husband against the rest of the world. Naturally, almost, in a sense, rightly, their claims override, for her, all other claims. She is the special trustee of their interests. The function of the husband is to see that this natural preference of hers is not given its head. He has the last word in order to protect other people from the intense family patriotism of the wife."

Hillary is the epitome of this. She's is the Livia Drusilla of our age. A vote for her is a vote for war.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2016 1:37 PM  

Broken Arrow wrote:Trump really did burn down the GOP.

Perhaps not the victory we were hoping for, but victory.

Anonymous BGKB October 12, 2016 2:11 PM  

I sincerely hope that Trump has been quietly putting in place some kind of machine to monitor each step of the process... including absentees.

There have been at least 8 big voter fraud stories in the past month.

A whole lot of GIs are going to get lucky the first day or two of the war.

Then pay for the next 18 years, my armor battalion formations got warnings to not trust condoms women provide when support units got deployment orders.

More T-shirts with Bill Clinton's picture over the word "RAPIST" are clearly needed.

I already get flak for wearing WHITE shirts after labor day.

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2016 2:28 PM  

> I sincerely hope that Trump has been quietly putting in place some kind of machine to monitor each step of the process... including absentees.

And who is going to do anything about the fraud once it's documented? The system is thoroughly corrupted. Trump has to win in spite of the fraud. Only then will he be in a position to do anything about it.

> I'm in shock over how many people are willing to characterize Trump's comments as describing assault.

Why? The left always lies. They know better, but they're selling a narrative.

Just go out and vote and let matters go where they will. You know the media is lying. You know they're manipulating the polls (and this time they don't care if they look right at the end, this is the last election that will matter, and they know it). Ignore the noise and vote.

But then the USA is probably finished even if Trump wins. It'll be applying a band aid to malignant melanoma.

Blogger tz October 12, 2016 2:36 PM  

A cyber-attack that caused a Blackout (as in black lives matter get out and loot) in Chicago, Detroit, Denver, and a few other areas could alter the electoral map too.

Blogger Demonic Professor El October 12, 2016 2:42 PM  

BGKB wrote:I sincerely hope that Trump has been quietly putting in place some kind of machine to monitor each step of the process... including absentees.

There have been at least 8 big voter fraud stories in the past month.


Remember too that the voter fraud is rampant in the West right now. Brexit, France, Austria all had confirmed fraud.

We could have a Brexit-type situation, where the majority is enough to break the fraud differential.

Or as it was in Austria, where the fraud was so obvious that they are doing a revote soon.

I could see Trump and some* republicans raising hell about the numbers. However, I agree with Vox's pessimistic estimation of the US in this - the GOP would roll over and not press for prosecutions or recounts like they do in Europe.

Personally, I'm banking on a Medieval: Total War type looking map of the US with factions and states emerging from this. Russia-Orthodox Alliance FTW!

Anonymous Mr. Generic October 12, 2016 2:45 PM  

Trump should find some of the personnel able to attest to who gave the stand down order in Benghazi and a few family members of the fallen and bring them to the next debate.

I'm sure a good lawyer could be found who could shoot down the nondisclosure agreements in the face of treasonous activities.

Anonymous Jon Bromfield October 12, 2016 3:09 PM  

I doubt the chance of nuclear war with Russia. Putin and the Chinese have her emails and can blackmail her to cave whatever her blathering and posturing.

The US will be finished as a major power but that is apparently what the American public want - and deserve.

Me? If Trump loses I'm done with the Republican party. Let the Dems have it all; we'll just be getting to the revolution sooner than later.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 12, 2016 3:30 PM  

But then the USA is probably finished even if Trump wins. It'll be applying a band aid to malignant melanoma.

The USA was probably finished by no later than 1995. Everything since then, IMO, has simply been like putting additional bullets into a corpse.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 12, 2016 3:37 PM  

If women "get" their girl president it will only speed the time when hardship requires men to slap the bitches into the back seat, away from the steering wheel. (Good news: the loudest-mouthed bitches will have already gotten themselves killed, I suspect. In zombieland the fatties go first.)

Feminism only arises when times are so fat, dumb and lazy that there are no wolves at the door requiring men to lead. In this metaphor, women still keep the door open as the early wolves enter and begin their attack. Only after much blood has already flowed will women be shoved aside by the tough, remaining men who'll tell them what to do (mostly STFU.)

Anonymous Bob October 12, 2016 3:59 PM  

Wouldn't be easier just to list the 3 or 4 republicans not on the list ...

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2016 4:53 PM  

> The US will be finished as a major power but that is apparently what the American public want - and deserve.

That's a given anyway. We can't afford to be a major power any more.

> The USA was probably finished by no later than 1995.

Sounds about right, yes.

Blogger Lovekraft October 12, 2016 5:00 PM  

Breitbart just put this up re: Mensch.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/12/revealed-conservative-blogger-louis-mensch-working-hillary-campaign/

Anonymous Mook October 12, 2016 5:11 PM  

Don't the LA times say the poll lags by several days according to the website? If so, the big drop might simply correspond to Saturday.

Anonymous dr kill October 12, 2016 5:19 PM  

Trump is done. Be of good cheer and prepare your tribe for the Clinton years. What Vox says is true.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants October 12, 2016 5:23 PM  

I'm one of the loudest voices saying repeal the 19th amendment, pissing off my fellow ladies to no end, but according to the LA Times poll, support for Trump post #Pussygate dropped from the male responders & went up from female responders.
Looks like the feminization of males by the left has been extremely successful.

Anonymous Mook October 12, 2016 6:23 PM  

NYT claims the sudden increase in clinton support was because one guy didn't vote in the sample:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/upshot/how-one-19-year-old-illinois-man-is-distorting-national-polling-averages.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Blogger FSL October 12, 2016 7:25 PM  

It seems obvious to me that a technocratic democracy would just get hacked by the rich and powerful. Besides this, no democracy can vote on EVERY issue, even a technocratic one. Bureaucrats of one kind or another seem bound to exist in the system. Better to go with our current system with a proviso that the laws MUST be interpreted according to the Originalist philosophy of Antonin Scalia based on his cases. The supreme court seems the weak link in the chain aside from human sin itself.

Blogger Daniel October 12, 2016 8:06 PM  

Parties do not dissapear if they still are in state city and legislative levels. Wont happen

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 13, 2016 12:35 AM  

Daniel wrote:Parties do not dissapear if they still are in state city and legislative levels. Wont happen
That's why the Whig party is still a force to be reckoned with.

Blogger peter blandings October 13, 2016 4:27 AM  

that's a fantastic infogalactic page. comprehensive as hell. who did all the work?
@111. the republican party is finished. there are two parties in the u.s. now: the democrats, and trump.

Blogger Eric I. Gatera. October 13, 2016 6:11 AM  

Infogalactic link is not working. Can't access it.

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