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Sunday, October 30, 2016

Behind the revived FBI investigation

Andrew Napolitano provides some useful background for the recent revival of the investigation that has now unearthed some 650,000 emails, some of which appear to be related to Hillary's apparent malfeasance as Secretary of State.
When Clinton herself was interviewed on July 2 -- for only four hours, during which the interviewers seemed to some in the bureau to lack aggression, passion and determination -- some FBI agents privately came to the same conclusion as their former boss: The case was going sideways.

A few determined agents were frustrated by Clinton's professed lack of memory during her interview and her oblique reference to a recent head injury she had suffered as the probable cause of that. They sought to obtain her medical records to verify the gravity of her injury and to determine whether she had been truthful with them. They prepared the paperwork to obtain the records, only to have their request denied by Director Comey himself on July 4.

Then some agents did the unthinkable; they reached out to colleagues in the intelligence community and asked them to obtain Clinton's medical records so they could show them to Comey. We know that the National Security Agency can access anything that is stored digitally, including medical records. These communications took place late on July 4.

When Comey learned of these efforts, he headed them off the next morning with his now infamous news conference, in which he announced that Clinton would not be indicted because the FBI had determined that her behavior, though extremely careless, was not reckless, which is the legal standard in espionage cases. He then proceeded to recount the evidence against her. He did this, no doubt, to head off the agents who had sought the Clinton medical records, whom he suspected would leak evidence against her.

Three months later -- and just weeks before Clinton will probably be elected president -- we have learned that President Barack Obama regularly communicated with Clinton via her personal email servers about matters that the White House considered classified. That means that he lied when he told CBS News that he learned of the Clinton servers when the rest of us did.

We also learned this week that Andrew McCabe, Giacalone's successor as head of the FBI Washington field office and presently the No. 3 person in the FBI, is married to a woman to whom the Clinton money machine in Virginia funneled about $675,000 in lawful campaign funds for a failed 2015 run for the Virginia Senate. Comey apparently saw no conflict or appearance of impropriety in having the person in charge of the Clinton investigation in such an ethically challenged space.
It seems that Comey now understands that the corrupted officials at the FBI and the Justice Department can't keep the lid on their rebellious underlings any longer. Everyone at the FBI knows Hillary Clinton is corrupt, they've known it for years. But the hard evidence and the permission required to gather it has, historically, been lacking.

Perhaps it will finally see the light of day, as the FBI has now obtained a warrant to go through the emails not directly related to the Weiner case.

Things are getting crazy.


UPDATE: Kee-rikey... if this is true and the details are leaked to the Democratic Party elders, she will be forced to stand down whether she is willing to do so or not.



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Anonymous Slowpoke October 30, 2016 7:55 PM  

What is the over under on Hillary surviving this week? Bill? Will they let Bill die from a heart attack for the pomp of the state funeral and distract from the mess and hope for the win? Will they forget the last time they tried that?

Blogger JWM in SD October 30, 2016 7:58 PM  

"Three months later -- and just weeks before Clinton will probably be elected president -- we have learned that President Barack Obama regularly communicated with Clinton via her personal email servers about matters that the White House considered classified."

Okay, I like the judge but why the fuck do all of these MSM pundits think that she is going to win? She only wins if she cheats and the race is close. That is not an assured outcome.

Blogger Ransom Smith October 30, 2016 8:01 PM  

The wind has changed.

Preet Bharara is on the case. AND his shark senses smell blood.

Blogger Teri October 30, 2016 8:01 PM  

For the same reason two MSM political shows quoted Yahoo News as a source today; they are all given the same story to run with. CB was talking about Trump's "lagging" campaign today.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 30, 2016 8:05 PM  

It's Almost Time

Blogger VD October 30, 2016 8:05 PM  

Sometimes it takes a while for the media's Narrative to catch up to the facts on the ground.

Blogger Mr. Naron October 30, 2016 8:07 PM  

Lack of hard evidence? The server IS hard evidence.

Blogger OGRE October 30, 2016 8:14 PM  

From what I hear, Weiner's evidence was semi-hard.

Blogger Cash October 30, 2016 8:14 PM  

From the WSJ article it looks like the foundation is going to get dragged into this pretty bad.

FBI agents are looking for blood and are mad that DOJ blocked their investigation into the foundation

Anonymous hangemhighhandstied October 30, 2016 8:16 PM  

The globalist vermin are feeling real fear now. Election rigging has to be calibrated and the gamespace is far from equilibrium.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:16 PM  

I still think Comey was a Boy Scout 'Clueless', on the 'psycopath/clueless/loser' metric, who will be raped and crucifief by all the guilty psycopaths around him.

Who else would have signed up for the job of taking an investigation "sideways"?

Blogger YIH October 30, 2016 8:16 PM  

The whole of the FBI has a reputation that they carefully built over their history.
Rightly or wrongly, what happened with Hillary can destroy what they've built - and that pisses off the 'rank and file'.
It appears the rest of the FBI would be glad to be rid of Comey. Assuming Trump wins, he should do the ''You're fired!'' to Comey right after being sworn in.
In fact, rumor has it Trump has made a deal with 0bama; ''if you don't pardon Hillary, you walk away clean. If you pardon her, I go after you''
I'd take that deal.

Blogger Jason October 30, 2016 8:17 PM  

Stefan Molyneaux had an interesting take. He thought the FBI guys had figured Trump was going to win and they wanted to keep their jobs after he was elected. So this comes out now.

Someone else suggested that they felt safe to do so because Hillary will probably die before she is in a postion to get revenge if Trump wins.

Blogger JWM in SD October 30, 2016 8:19 PM  

Ransom,

That's been around for two months now and not much was heard after the first week or so. Is there some new development with Preet?

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 30, 2016 8:19 PM  

"She only wins if she cheats and the race is close."

Not actually. Electoral college math is weird math, the race is already close and yet Trump doesn't have it in the bag; plus, you said IF she cheats?!? Whole states can be won just by a few swing counties, which always seem to be Democrat, and which magically produce entire landfills' worth of Democrat votes at exactly the right second. She isn't the first, but this WILL be the worst.

But back to the EC problem. Say Trump wins 80-85% of votes in Red states and rust-belt states. It's an impressive indicator, but to win those states he only needed 51%. The rest don't matter for EC purposes. Let's say he gets 45% in Texas and California. That is still an impressive amount of voters, and more than the whole rust belt combined, potentially, but he still loses all those EC votes.

The Trumpslide could indeed massively happen, and yet still ironically not produce a TrumpenSieg.

The good news is, even on present points, nevermind a Trump loss despite a massive vote victory in absolute terms... Hitler will begin her fake presidency from Day One as already the most discredited person to hold the office since... well, anyone, I believe. There have been presidents who have turned out over time to positively horrifyingly awful, but I can't think of anybody who showed up on their first day with THESE sorts of negatives.

As Caesar Romero used to say, Delicious!


Blogger Cash October 30, 2016 8:20 PM  

Let's just be glad that Hillary is a stone cold bitch who couldn't stand to have more than the required one child for political purposes.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:20 PM  

Jason wrote:Stefan Molyneaux had an interesting take. He thought the FBI guys had figured Trump was going to win and they wanted to keep their jobs after he was elected. So this comes out now.

Someone else suggested that they felt safe to do so because Hillary will probably die before she is in a postion to get revenge if Trump wins.


Nah, Comey is CYAing after the last little presentation to Congress. Everyone around him has betrayed his trust. Only Congress can keep him out of jail.

Blogger RE October 30, 2016 8:23 PM  

All these events is going to deflate her voter turnout, rigging the election is going to be more difficult.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:26 PM  

RE wrote:All these events is going to deflate her voter turnout, rigging the election is going to be more difficult.

Bah, that's what Soros machines are for. If the Democrats don't turn this up to 11, then they expect a lot of their kind to be jailed. Hillary herself thinks she is headed for 'The Day of the Rope"'.

Blogger JWM in SD October 30, 2016 8:26 PM  

I heard that the FBI folks on the case were going to have a press conference of about 30 to 40 people and it was beginning to snowball to well over 100 agents. That's what prompted Comey to act. I don't know.

The Judge is saying that it was the health records they were going to go after and that's what triggered Comey. Now why would that be such a big deal? We all know something happened to her in 2012. Back during the Benghazi timeframe, I recall hearing about her being in a plane crash in Iran and that story got squashed. Several weeks later she makes appearance in front of congress with the fresnal glasses, looking like absolute hell, and made the infamous "...what difference, at this point, does it make...".

What the hell happened to her such that Comey could not let them get the health records? There is something very weird about this whole thing and it has to do with the Iran deal in my opinion.

Anonymous Ron October 30, 2016 8:26 PM  

Amazing find. No way she carries on as before.

How the fuck did they fuck up this bad?

Blogger SemiSpook37 October 30, 2016 8:28 PM  

@17

Agree on the CYA piece for Comey. I'd say that's definitely a contributing factor to this whole situation.

Heard somewhere that in this whole mix Huma lost her immunity. Can we confirm this?

Anonymous Dave October 30, 2016 8:28 PM  

@11 Rusty that is just ignorant. Comey is as dirty as they get. Breitbart already exposed how deep he is in with the Clinton Foundation last month: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/10/exposed-fbi-director-james-comeys-clinton-foundation-connection/

He's a lifelong GOPe Cuck that has always performed exactly as expected when inside the beltway.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 30, 2016 8:29 PM  

Trump should say he is currently considering exactly what might justify a pardon of the Clintons as it will be a minor but serious concern early in his Presidency.

Anonymous 10/30 October 30, 2016 8:30 PM  

@15
Doesn't matter how discredited she is with Paul Ryan there to rubber stamp 'immigration reform.' 0% chance Ryan give her an amnesty bill to sign. Game/Set/Match.

2+ million illegals in Texas, Romney won Texas by ~1.5million.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:30 PM  

Ok, and this.

'Some people, including department heads, stopped talking to Jim, and even ignored his greetings when they passed him in the hall,' said the source. 'They felt that he betrayed them and brought disgrace on the bureau by letting Hillary off with a slap on the wrist.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886942/Resignation-letters-piling-disaffected-FBI-agents-wife-urging-admit-wrong-Director-Comey-jumped-chance-reopen-Hillary-investigation.html#ixzz4OcO4juP1 
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Anonymous Sam the Man October 30, 2016 8:32 PM  

15

Quote:
Let's say he gets 45% in Texas and California. That is still an impressive amount of voters, and more than the whole rust belt combined, potentially, but he still loses all those EC votes.

Unquote:

Trump does not get 45% of Texas, right now he gets around 48% at the low end, with Hillary's high end being around 43%. No one except demented leftists thinks he loses Texas.

Nice try.......

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:33 PM  

Dave wrote:He's a lifelong GOPe Cuck that has always performed exactly as expected when inside the beltway

Hadn't seen that. But still think he was basically betrayed into doing this to save his own hide.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 30, 2016 8:36 PM  

Harry Reid has declared war on the FBI, smooth move keep this in the news by having old white near death Democratic party politicians declaring political war on an institution with favorable ratings

Blogger JWM in SD October 30, 2016 8:36 PM  

Warrant served for Weiner / Abedin's computer.

Anonymous Icicle October 30, 2016 8:38 PM  

We've had hunches that she was corrupt since the early nineties. Now we have actual proof.

I'M SO ENTERTAINED RIGHT NOW!

Blogger Robert Divinity October 30, 2016 8:38 PM  

Comey covered his corrupt ass. Too many people saw and knew about Weiner's laptop and the emails on it to keep this under wraps.

Clinton ultimately is a money-grubbing shill. If she is way behind by the middle of the week, to salvage Democrats down ballot she will be paid handsomely either to step aside or, more likely, announce she won't serve more than one term. This will be a historic week. The Banana Empire and its Imperial City are about to surrender some ground.

Blogger slarrow October 30, 2016 8:39 PM  

Scott Adams just posted a piece on his blog about this suggesting that Comey is a patriot who has taken two bullets for his country: one when declining to pursue the investigation, and one now. Before you scoff at that, read the piece and recognize its persuasive power at guiding people to think that these emails have something "disqualifying" in them (Adams' term, and what a powerful one it is.)

Blogger JWM in SD October 30, 2016 8:41 PM  

"Clinton ultimately is a money-grubbing shill. If she is way behind by the middle of the week, to salvage Democrats down ballot she will be paid handsomely either to step aside or, more likely, announce she won't serve more than one term. "

Not going to happen. Trump will challenge because everyone know's she's cheating. No, she'll get impeached within the first 100 days easy.

Anonymous Icicle October 30, 2016 8:42 PM  

Clinton ultimately is a money-grubbing shill.

I never did get that. After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?

Blogger Bob Loblaw October 30, 2016 8:43 PM  

Comey is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He already went all in for Hillary, and now they've discovered something that's hands-down disqualifying. So either he puts it out now to salvage the last shreds of his credibility, or he can sit on it, to the extent that's even possible, and be forever known as the guy who hid critical information from voters.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:45 PM  

Bob Loblaw wrote:Comey is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He already went all in for Hillary, and now they've discovered something that's hands-down disqualifying. So either he puts it out now to salvage the last shreds of his credibility, or he can sit on it, to the extent that's even possible, and be forever known as the guy who hid critical information from voters.

Worse, because they can imprison him, Congress.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:46 PM  

Icicle wrote:Clinton ultimately is a money-grubbing shill.

I never did get that. After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?


It's how you keep score.

Blogger VD October 30, 2016 8:47 PM  

But still think he was basically betrayed into doing this to save his own hide.

Read the Daily Mail article. His wife and his friends, as well as his colleagues, were furious with him for going along to get along. So, when he was handed the excuse to reopen the investigation, he did.

There is definitely a big THERE there.

Anonymous Gaius Vandali October 30, 2016 8:47 PM  

Everyone in Washington is a political animal. Comey understands that Trump will win convincingly, and is acting accordingly to save his career and reputation.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 30, 2016 8:51 PM  

VD wrote:Read the Daily Mail article. His wife and his friends, as well as his colleagues, were furious with him for going along to get along. So, when he was handed the excuse to reopen the investigation, he did.

Read that mail article. Agreed.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 30, 2016 8:51 PM  

The Hatch act as it relates to law enforcement is a joke. The Democrats keep going on about how Comey violated it and is "affecting the election". To that I say damn right and he should. If you have a stack of evidence against a candidate that would have the power to pardon themselves then I would think the right thing to do would be to let the electorate know about it.

The most damning part of this whole thing is what the elite are now saying out in the open. "Russia is trying to influence the election", "the FBI is trying to influence the election". The real "crime" they are worried about is shining sunlight on all of their schemes.

Blogger Robert Divinity October 30, 2016 8:56 PM  

@34

Not going to happen. Trump will challenge because everyone know's she's cheating. No, she'll get impeached within the first 100 days easy.


Enough pay and she will do it. Trump really can't stop her announcement.

@35
After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?

It never will be enough for her because the bitch is stark-raving insane, to mention the 800-pound Harambe in the room.

Blogger LonestarWhacko October 30, 2016 8:56 PM  

8ch has a lot to say. Well, we know if Weiner is involved, it's nasty, right? The only real silver bullet for Clinton is seriously deviant sex. Democrats have no shame, otherwise. Weiner might end up being relatively normal before this cesspool is pumped out.

Blogger pdwalker October 30, 2016 8:57 PM  

to people with an addiction to power, there is never enough.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 30, 2016 8:57 PM  

It's RICO all the way down the turd packee president lied about emails so sometime in the future he will be drug down which means now everyone is trying to work out their relationships and deals with other crooks. If Obama is part of the grift they all are, hell, throw in some cuck names as well

Blogger OGRE October 30, 2016 9:00 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:The real "crime" they are worried about is shining sunlight on all of their schemes.

Its why she put together that email server in the first place--to hide the evidence of all the wrongdoings. Why else would they have taken the extraordinary step of setting up a private email server? The fed gov provides secure emails, why did she need her own?

The only answer is To hide her emails from discovery, because they contain damning evidence of crime and corruption.

But an UNSECURE server?? And apparently Huma had her stuff auto-synced to her home computer?? I think I'm more appalled by the absolute stupidty involved here than I am by the actual criminal conduct.

Anonymous Joe Blowe October 30, 2016 9:04 PM  

Rusty Fife wrote:'Some people, including department heads, stopped talking to Jim, and even ignored his greetings when they passed him in the hall,' said the source. 'They felt that he betrayed them and brought disgrace on the bureau by letting Hillary off with a slap on the wrist.'

AWW, poor baby. That whole Daily Mail article reads like Pravda level propaganda designed to salvage a shred of credibility for this disgraced sellout and his entire outfit. Where are the public resignations? Where are the public whistle blowers? Where are the arrests? The Weiner laptop has 650,000 (!) emails on it. It will take weeks to review and serve as a convenient distraction to the real damning Wikileaks revelations. Meanwhile the FBI will do nothing while Hillary steals her way into the White House.

The entire FBI and DOJ is corrupt from top to bottom and can not be trusted with all its powers. Its a clear and present danger to the people of the United States. It should be disbanded, with all pensions and benefits REVOKED, right before the mass Nuremberg style trials of its former employees.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 30, 2016 9:07 PM  

I have a feeling things are going to get real interesting this week. If Assange wasn't blowing smoke about having the silver bullet then things are going to get straight up crazy.

The machine is going to be out in full force and they are going to drop as many questionable revelations about Trump as they can. They also are going to drop whatever dirt they might have on Comey. Given his position, I would guess they have something good on him.

Assange and multiple people at Wikileaks may end up dead but I doubt it (The wet work guys don't want to be the last on the sinking ship). They will likely have cyber attacks attempted on their networks all week though. I am guessing Assange drops what he has either late in the day Thursday or early Friday for maximum effect going into election day.

Blogger Ransom Smith October 30, 2016 9:07 PM  

That's been around for two months now and not much was heard after the first week or so. Is there some new development with Preet?

Preet was the one who subpoenaed for Weiner's computer in the first place. This is his ball to run.

Anonymous Joe Blowe October 30, 2016 9:10 PM  

JWM in SD wrote:I heard that the FBI folks on the case were going to have a press conference of about 30 to 40 people and it was beginning to snowball to well over 100 agents.

Unless they do it on live TV these stories of "disgruntled" FBI agents is just so much BS PR to make the Bureau look good. The FBI has been all about PR since it was founded by that cross dressing fag Hoover to act as the secret political police for the Globalist DC Establishment.

Anonymous Icicle October 30, 2016 9:10 PM  

"We're talking an international child enslavement and sex ring."

We've had hunches about this since the eighties.

Anonymous Cyclone Bob October 30, 2016 9:13 PM  

Yeah, if Kee-rikey is true, Weiner and Epstein may turn the Dem Party into bigger jew-haters than Hitler. Literally.

Blogger SemiSpook37 October 30, 2016 9:13 PM  

WOW. She is done. When she's also hitching rides on the Lolita Express, you know something is completely and utterly fucked up about that.

They all need to be executed in the middle of the street, kind of like how Vince Foster killed himself.

Blogger Natalie October 30, 2016 9:13 PM  

As has been pointed out - it's been over 48hrs now. If they had any weapons grade material on Trump it would out dancing with the MSM by now. Instead we're seeing polls shifting, google allowing negative searches, and general malaise on the part of the MSM.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 30, 2016 9:16 PM  

OGRE wrote: I think I'm more appalled by the absolute stupidty involved here than I am by the actual criminal conduct.

It's not stupidity. It's a combination of carelessness and arrogance. They assumed they could worm their way out of anything that might be discovered. They were pretty much right about that until the FBI was on the verge of a mutiny and left over evidence surfaced giving the director an excuse to reopen the case.

The nail in the coffin was Huma deciding to split with Weiner. It's likely she didn't get a hold of his laptop and destroy it because she wanted to avoid the awkward situation of seeing him.

He probably was at least passingly aware of what could be found on the laptop and it was an act of vengeance handing it over without making them get a warrant. (that could be overestimating his intelligence though).

Blogger VFM #7634 October 30, 2016 9:19 PM  

It's funny... SJWs have been saying they were going to try to nail Trump on child sex charges.

The Third Law of SJW is fully in operation here, folks.

Anonymous Icicle October 30, 2016 9:21 PM  

I'm not sure "funny" is the word to use.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 30, 2016 9:27 PM  

Illinois' governor was arrested in 2009 as it was determined he was an active criminal conspiracy in progress.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 9:30 PM  

Hillary on the Lolita Express? Please people, there is no way that's true. Wiener and Billy -- absolutely. Hillary? No fucking way. Just no fucking way.

Moreover, if you think that the Democrat party cares at all about child rape, think again. Everyone who knows anything at all knows that Bill has been on the Lolita Express a half dozen times and nothing as been done.

These are the same people who approve of vibrancy, who allowed Rotherham, who overturned the conviction of Muhammad "Sex Emergency" Rapefugee in Austria. The same people who allowed a million Muslims of military age to grope their way across Europe. They don't care -- this is what they are.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 9:31 PM  

How the fuck did they fuck up this bad?

SJW Convergence is a real thing, and it doesn't apply only to science fiction groups and software projects.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 30, 2016 9:31 PM  

@33, I'm not buying Scott Adams' perspective this time. Comey always had a very easy out, just make the honest recommendation and punt the ball to the DoJ. Let Loretta sweat it.

Sure, the argument that indicting a presidential candidate is "too hot" does have merit. Back in the 1990s Ken Starr declined to indict Hillary for perjury on this exact same basis. It was thought that indicting a sitting FLOTUS was "too hot", and Starr faced a staff hostile to that conclusion back then, too.

And look where it got us, if Starr had done the right thing back then we would not be facing the current crisis. For the love of God, at some point you have to do the right thing, this is basic morality.

And, considering that, a chorus did exist (a chorus!) around the "FBI primary" saying to Comey that indictment grew harder every single day. She should have been indicted before the Democrat National Convention made her the nominee. She OUGHT to have been. Then the Dems could have factored her perfidy honestly and made the open decision either to back it or pick another horse.

Comey waited far, far too long to absolve himself of any "I'm taking a bullet and leaving it to the voters" excuse. Integrity and morality presented various credible options for him, yet he waited until the pincers of political pressures made a full-bore cop-out all too likely.

TL;DR -- Comey's a dirty cop.

Blogger Phelps October 30, 2016 9:31 PM  

This explains why Harry Reid is going all-in on starting a war with the FBI. He's always struck me as a diddler, and he's probably literally balls deep in the whole (((Epstein))) business.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 30, 2016 9:34 PM  

Drain The Swamp!!!

Anonymous Takin' a Look October 30, 2016 9:35 PM  

http://82.221.129.208/earlyvote.gif

It's rigged, no question.

As for your update, Preet Bharara has been forcing this issue for months.

I wonder how (((they))) can spin this when several of their (((own))) turn out to have a conscious like Manny Waks and Rabbi Niche Rosenberg?

Blogger Harold October 30, 2016 9:40 PM  

That is a very interesting tweet. That is all.

Anonymous Sharrukin October 30, 2016 9:40 PM  

60. Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 9:30 PM

"Hillary on the Lolita Express? Please people, there is no way that's true."

Why?

Blogger VD October 30, 2016 9:40 PM  

Moreover, if you think that the Democrat party cares at all about child rape, think again.

They don't. But they do care about a fatally-damaged candidate dragging down all the other Democrats around the country.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 30, 2016 9:40 PM  

After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?

When you're an absolutely unlovable reptile up to your gills in corruption and have a rolodex full of equally unscrupulous grifters, you need quite a lot of money to pay them off so they stay quiet.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 9:40 PM  

Moreover, if you think that the Democrat party cares at all about child rape, think again.

We know they don't. But the Nice White People who have been thinking of washing their hands of the whole thing by voting for the gay Mormon DO care about things like that. Their consciences might not allow them to withhold their votes from the only man who can keep a molester out of the White House. If Trump gets the Nice White People holdouts, the Trumpslide is a done deal.

And if only Bill partook and Hillary just went along, do you really think that makes it any better?

Anonymous Takin' a Look October 30, 2016 9:42 PM  

Weiner is disgusting, but from what I've read, he is a bisexual who likes jailbait. Not a "pedo" in the biological term.

@LonestarWhacko

Blogger LonestarWhacko October 30, 2016 9:46 PM  

@71 Like I said, he's going to prove out as fairly normal. There's going to be a huge plane crash. Just sayin'.

Blogger Duke of Earl October 30, 2016 9:47 PM  

To be honest I hope the NYPD rumors aren't correct. This has been a nasty enough election without throwing that into the mix too.

Anonymous Icicle October 30, 2016 9:48 PM  

A lot of people are going to need to avoid barbells for a while.

Blogger Lazarus October 30, 2016 9:53 PM  

Icicle wrote:After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?

Its not the money. Its the forbidden pussy.

Meow.

Blogger ace October 30, 2016 9:59 PM  

Takin' a Look wrote:Weiner is disgusting, but from what I've read, he is a bisexual who likes jailbait. Not a "pedo" in the biological term.

@LonestarWhacko


Are you implying the Lolita Express doesn't cater to the plebeian tastes of hebephiles?

Blogger The Other Robot October 30, 2016 9:59 PM  

@73: Hillary is the nasty piece of work, and the nastiness started in her campaign.

I say, let's drag it all out in the open so we can see what festering cesspool that political family is.

Anonymous Takin' a Look October 30, 2016 10:10 PM  

@ Ace

It's (((Jeffery Epstein))) so of course he caters to all the sickos and (((sickos))).

What I've been reading up on Weiner is he is an oversexed, disgusting POS. However, he likes jailbait, not actual kids. I may be proven wrong, who knows?

Blogger The Other Robot October 30, 2016 10:10 PM  

Monday will be interesting ...

Anonymous CloseHauled October 30, 2016 10:11 PM  

Gennifer Flowers did say Bill said that "Hillary has eaten more pussy than me".

Blogger Mountain Man October 30, 2016 10:20 PM  

Nixon had Watergate
Hillary has...Weinergate.

Ahhh... the humor and oh so rich irony.

Speaking of the Loilita express..wonder if Kreepy Kaine took a ride. If so, Im guessing he had a sweet tooth for the boys.

Blogger Ben Cohen October 30, 2016 10:20 PM  

If Hillary wins then that is proof that this country has demographically reached the tipping point because you can't get a more pathetic candidate than her.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 30, 2016 10:27 PM  

15. Down and Out in... October 30, 2016 8:19 PM
She isn't the first, but this WILL be the worst.



Indiana State Police are up to 56 counties involved in the Demoncrat 'Patriot Majority USA' registration fraud investigation.

it appears to be only 56 counties thus far ... mostly because ISP has only gotten to O's in the alphabetical list.

there's no way in hell St Joseph Cty isn't involved in this.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/elections/indiana-state-police-expand-vote-fraud-investigation-to-counties/article_dbf2984a-8cac-11e6-8a51-83f73a592b3a.html

i suggest that everyone look to their own states for DC based Demoncrat affiliate 'get out the vote' orgs.

we all know what we're going to find.



22. SemiSpook37 October 30, 2016 8:28 PM
Heard somewhere that in this whole mix Huma lost her immunity. Can we confirm this?



IANAL, but my understanding is that perjuring yourself in your testimony voids standard immunity deals.

there is zero chance that Huma told the truth.

but then, this applies to pretty much everybody else involved in this as well.



20. JWM in SD October 30, 2016 8:26 PM
I heard that the FBI folks on the case were going to have a press conference of about 30 to 40 people and it was beginning to snowball to well over 100 agents.




it's about god damn fucking time.

all the mewling about 'honor' and 'integrity' and how much 'respect' WE owe THEM that we get from .mil and .gov personnel and they're going to let THIS shit pile run for election?

it's those very .mil and .gov people who know BETTER THAN WE that anyone committing 1/10th of the security offenses that Hillary is publicly KNOWN to have committed would already have been arrested.


23. Dave October 30, 2016 8:28 PM
He's a lifelong GOPe Cuck that has always performed exactly as expected when inside the beltway.


this.

Comey ALSO belongs in jail.

in fact, being that he's a 'Republican', we should START with prosecuting his sorry ass.



34. JWM in SD October 30, 2016 8:41 PM
No, she'll get impeached within the first 100 days easy.



by WHO?

you think Cuck Ryan is going to proffer impeachment charges?

whatchoo smokin, Willis?



35. Icicle October 30, 2016 8:42 PM
I never did get that. After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?



she ain't a billionaire yet.



Anonymous deplorable six pan October 30, 2016 10:27 PM  

I think "ephebophile" is the term.

Blogger Duke of Earl October 30, 2016 10:30 PM  

The Other Robot wrote:@73: Hillary is the nasty piece of work, and the nastiness started in her campaign.

I say, let's drag it all out in the open so we can see what festering cesspool that political family is.


That's true.

Blogger Natalie October 30, 2016 10:32 PM  

So this link is interesting: https://twitter.com/wesleyrickard/status/792875815394357248

Looks like she could indeed be kept from holding public office if she's found guilty.

Blogger campbreeze October 30, 2016 10:34 PM  

For over 20 years we've been hearing about the next big revelation that is going to take down the Clintons (e.g. the drug deals out of the Mena, AR airport).

And then Hillary is rumored to having an affair with Vince Foster. But she is also a lesbian and now apparently a lesbian pedophile.

Look, I think the Clintons are corrupt, but I'll believe they are going down when I see it.

The Trumpslide does cometh, however. That I believe in now.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 30, 2016 10:35 PM  

@12 YIH
The whole of the FBI has a reputation that they carefully built over their history

They burned their reputation to the ground along with 80+ people outside of Waco, Texas in April of 1993.

Murder, evidence tampering, murder, witness tampering, murder, perjury before Congress, murder of children.
Probably murder of an expert witness before he could testify to Congress, too.The FBI has a reputation, oh, yes and they got it by obeying the orders of Bill Clinton, then the CYA had to start and continue.

Now we see where shilling for the Clintons multiple times has gotten the FBI. There may be honest agents. Not many, and for sure not very high up.

Because the ashes of Waco cover the whole, stinking, organization from top to nearly the bottom.

PS: There's no statute of limitations for the crime of murder. Even for Federal agents.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 10:38 PM  

@67

Don't get me wrong, I hate the Clintons. She is the font of all corruption in the world. She is the cross-eyed harlot of Mystery Babylon. Yet, I still have a tough time wrapping my head around her raping children.

@68 VD

Yes, if the Democrats thought she would drag them all down with her, she would accidentally fall down an elevator shaft onto a box of bullets ... very tragic.

However, the election is ten days away. They will try an gut it out -- shooting every messenger, burning every bridge. Isn't doubling down your 3rd law?

If these allegations are true and released, it will take too long for the average Nice White Person to compute this. I hate them and I'm having a tough time computing this as true.

It took months for people to process Bill Clinton's sexcapades and while perverted most people didn't believe credible circumstantial evidence at all and many denied/engaged in cognitive dissonance over it even after the Blue Dress.

Next week.... Holy Mother of God is going to be insane.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 30, 2016 10:43 PM  

@70
If Trump gets the Nice White People holdouts, the Trumpslide is a done deal.

If the Nice White People who live on my street just don't go vote, that might be enough. The retired grade school teacher. The retired professor. People who put up signs for Gore and Kerry and Obama, but who don't have any signage this year.

If the Nice White Retired Schoolteachers just get disgusted and don't vote at all, that might be good enough in some states.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 30, 2016 10:47 PM  

@88 Basil
Yet, I still have a tough time wrapping my head around her raping children.

Why? Lack of imagination? Dude, go look up Caligula and Claudius's wife. It's not a new thing.

Blogger tz October 30, 2016 10:49 PM  

Next week, Hillary, Bill, and Huma will have a rally in Algeria, or some other place that doesn't have an extradition treaty to open the foreign version of their foundation (where they will have wired all the cash).

Alternately, (as I croaked), we need a "Clue" pool:
BillyJeff / Weiner / Hillary
was killed from
TragicAccident / Mugging / Suicide
using a
Gun / Rope / Car
...

Maybe we can do it as a quick side job for the game developers.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 30, 2016 10:50 PM  

86. Natalie October 30, 2016 10:32 PM
Looks like she could indeed be kept from holding public office if she's found guilty.



with the glacial speed at which the federal courts move, they wouldn't even have gotten further than opening statements by inauguration day next spring.

putting your faith in the 'courts' is pointless.

this whore suffers nothing if she wins.

don't kid yourself, another 8 years of investigations ( and it would ONLY be Congressional, at best, Justice is NOT going to be investigating the sitting president ) will be water off of Hillary's back.



88. Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 10:38 PM
Yet, I still have a tough time wrapping my head around her raping children.



Marion Zimmer Bradley sexually abused HER OWN children.

you're telling me you think Hillary is more morally upstanding than MZB?

Anonymous dagwood October 30, 2016 10:51 PM  

"However, he likes jailbait, not actual kids."

From what I can figure, he mostly likes himself. (I mean emo/sexual esteem/etc, not wankery, tho that wouldn't surprise me either.)

But then I've never done any homework about such a turd. Even just reading his name makes me puke.

Blogger tz October 30, 2016 10:51 PM  

@88 - Madeline Albright said the death of a half million Iraqi children from Clinton sanctions was "Worth It". I don't think they are snuffing out the Children, at least not themselves.

The Lolita express for BillyJeff has been known for a while. I thought Hillary would have other resources.

Blogger Mountain Man October 30, 2016 10:55 PM  

A friend of mine recently mentioned they were talking with an acquaintance who works for the NSA. The topic of the election came up. At one point the NSA guy says to my friend; " what if none of the candidates for president are elected?" He then went on to say " There is a higher chance of this happening than you might think"
This exchange took place a week ago... and now this Hitlery bombshell just exploded..
I really hope Trump comes through this all unscathed.
We truly are living in interesting times.

Blogger tz October 30, 2016 10:55 PM  

@68 - Clue Pool:
Hillary Clinton / Gun / Tragic Accident / Secret service agent / Push for more gun control given how easy it is for an automatic to fire when it accidentally slips and hits the floor (which everyone will testify to). How the trajectory of one magic bullet managed to hit both her heart and brain ... Someone will have a Zapruder video on the cell phone after the NSA photosho...analyzes it frame by frame.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 10:56 PM  

@90 Perhaps it is a lack of imagination, though I've read the sources on Caligula -- Suetonius is somewhat a tabloid historian, but we don't have much beyond him.

Perhaps I just don't want to think about (more) children being raped by a Clinton....

Anyway, my point remains. I hate them and it is tough to convince me. People who support her -- even weakly -- it will be more difficult/time consuming to convince them.

We'll see. Buckle up.

Blogger tz October 30, 2016 10:58 PM  

Side note: the 3rd hour of "The Political Cesspool" featured a cop that investigated satanic ritual murders and child sex trafficking. And how there was a huge blackmail of the elite going on
Hour 3

Blogger tz October 30, 2016 11:01 PM  

It's the alt-right, not a conspiracy theory. The Kek's Files

Blogger tz October 30, 2016 11:05 PM  

@61 - exactly. Women ruin everything, including and especially themselves.
The top three causes of epic fail are:
SJW convergence
Women
Old fashioned Hubris.

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 30, 2016 11:05 PM  

Good Lord, we're in the Lost City of Carcosa now -- or at least True Detective's phony version of it.

@97 -- I don't think it matters if people really fully believe it or not, if it comes from one of the player's own laptops rather than say the RNC smear machine, then that is mud that is laced with Krazy Glue. You don't have to believe it, but the chances are great you'll be so subconsciously sickened it will change your decision-making process. Jill Stein suddenly looks soooo much more appealing, yes? Win-win.

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 30, 2016 11:08 PM  

@100 -- "top three causes..."

to paraphrase Stevens: "These three things/Are one. (Pages of illustrations.)"

Blogger slarrow October 30, 2016 11:12 PM  

@62, think it through. First, the "dirty cop" angle doesn't explain the testimony of others about his character or the security that comes from a 10-year appointment. It also doesn't explain his press conference where he laid out all the evidence about what she did. He didn't have to do that if he was just dirty. Now, it may be that his approach wasn't the best or smartest approach, but that's not what Adams is doing. He's trying to find a story that makes most of the evidence make sense.

But second, think about it strategically. If a man believes so strongly in not unduly influencing the political process that he'll suffer the slings and arrows of criticism, then it must take something very, very big to make him suffer the slings and arrows for doing the opposite as well. That's the persuasion angle: if Comey is believed to be acting nobly and self-sacrificially in both cases, then people will believe the news is a bombshell even if no details leak out until after the election.

It's a clever play on Adams' part. Of course, if the details do leak out and they are as bad as Vox indicated, the cleverness won't be needed. But Adams didn't know that when he wrote it.

Blogger The Kurgan October 30, 2016 11:16 PM  

It's starting to unravel

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2922773/Newly-released-flight-logs-reveal-time-trips-Bill-Clinton-Harvard-law-professor-Alan-Dershowitz-took-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Lolita-Express-private-jet-anonymous-women.html

Blogger dfordoom October 30, 2016 11:17 PM  

@35. Icicle

I never did get that. After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?

It's not about money. If it was about money every billionaire would retire after making his first billion. But they don't do that because it's not about money it's about power. Heck, a couple of hundred million will keep you in luxury for a lifetime but it won't get you power. To have real power you need a whole lot more than that. Only billionaires have real power. And even one billion doesn't translate into much power these days - you need multiple billions.

If the objective is power then you can never have too much money.

Anonymous Tipsy October 30, 2016 11:23 PM  

My guess is that Trump has as many friends on the NYPD as David Goldberg, if not more. So, this is not news to Trump. He's just figuring out the best way to play the full house he was just dealt.

Blogger Natalie October 30, 2016 11:26 PM  

bob kek mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) wrote:86. Natalie October 30, 2016 10:32 PM

Looks like she could indeed be kept from holding public office if she's found guilty.


with the glacial speed at which the federal courts move, they wouldn't even have gotten further than opening statements by inauguration day next spring.

putting your faith in the 'courts' is pointless.

this whore suffers nothing if she wins.

don't kid yourself, another 8 years of investigations ( and it would ONLY be Congressional, at best, Justice is NOT going to be investigating the sitting president ) will be water off of Hillary's back.




The point isn't trusting the court system. There has been speculation as to whether a president can serve from a jail cell. The answer in Hillary's particular case seems to be "no." As to whether the question is purely academic only time can tell.

Blogger Mjolnir ThunderBliss October 30, 2016 11:30 PM  

This sounds a bit 'out there' but if there really is an internal rebellion in the intelligence community then something this hardhitting could very well be the cause.

Let's not forget that accusations of organized pedophilia have long been waged in the conspiracy circles.

Blogger dfordoom October 30, 2016 11:31 PM  

@44. LonestarWhacko

The only real silver bullet for Clinton is seriously deviant sex.

In the cesspit that is the United States in 2016 I doubt there is any deviant sex that would cause a candidate any problem. Deviant sex has been so completely normalised that no-one notices it any more. Or, more accurately, no-one dares to notice it any more because if you do you're a hateful bigot.

And if voters think a candidate will advance their interests (i.e. provide them with free stuff) they'll vote for that candidate no matter how much evil and criminality is associated with them.

Anonymous Ronnie October 30, 2016 11:38 PM  

Obama goes down with this ship.

Anonymous BGKB October 30, 2016 11:38 PM  

Darn it, I posted a link about this earlier today, went off and am at the back on the line in comments. Its a little embarrassing that I predicted the wrong Clinton snorting cocaine off of little girls. I was actually hoping TRUMP would do wetwork to bust all the corrupt people Epstein has blackmail videos of, now it might come out before the election, it would devastate the left and a big chunk of the GOPe.

Look, I think the Clintons are corrupt, but I'll believe they are going down when I see it.

If you see it, the video will probably be pixilated like the "dancing boys of Afghanistan" documentary

Blogger OGRE October 30, 2016 11:39 PM  

@103 ya my first thought was this has to be very big for Comey to do this less than two weeks before the election. No way is it some pissant political ploy. He would catch hellfire for that, possibly a felony prosecution. So there has to be something there such that NOT coming forward before the election would be seen as a coverup, as opposed to just waiting till after the election if its more of the same.

@92 Some of the things she might be charged with regarding the handling of official records and classified documents, prohibit someone convicted of such from holding any public office. Its automatic upon conviction. Now it'd be a time getting a conviction, probably years, but it would put a lock on her serving as President, and would relinquish the need for impeachment proceedings.

Anonymous Ron October 30, 2016 11:39 PM  

Obama goes down with this ship.

Anonymous JI October 30, 2016 11:43 PM  

But, but, was it consensual? If it was consensual then it's okay, right? I can just hear the Democrats squealing such excuses.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 30, 2016 11:44 PM  

Assange said the next bombshell would have her arrested? Eyes Wide Shut is reality

Anonymous Sharrukin October 30, 2016 11:45 PM  

Jack Posobiec
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/792479315141070848

JackPosobiec

FBI Source: Huma requesting immunity deal

Blogger Dexter October 30, 2016 11:46 PM  

"she will be forced to stand down whether she is willing to do so or not."

But would this be a good thing? Might be more people willing to vote for Kreepy Kaine than for Hillary.

Blogger Nobody In Particular October 30, 2016 11:50 PM  

What may still happen: Democrats will just drag Clinton across the finish line, seething because of the indignities they have to endure in the name of progress. Then Clinton will resign, the scandal will be buried with her, and Kaine will be seen in a better light by comparison.
Kaine might also issue her and her entourage a blanket pardon, there is precedent exactly for this.
Kaine will make some conciliatory gestures to the Republican party (reduce the top tax rate by 1%, increase defense spending, or whatever) and the Republicans will be able to claim a symbolic victory. In return, after a lot of token resistance, Republicans will not veto Kaine's candidate for the Supreme Court. Both sides will compromise in order to heal a divided nation.
Clinton may still go into history as the first female president. As for Trump, he'll probably (be made to) go bankrupt and will be sued for sexual harassment or assault.
The main thing is not to have any more serious leaks before Election Day. If they can manage that, I think they can still spin whatever has already happened. It's not even about the leaks themselves, it's about being able to ignore them with plausible deniability, if nobody in the mainstream press talks about them.

Blogger The Other Robot October 30, 2016 11:50 PM  

Where are the logs showing the Weiner and Hilldog on the Lolita Express?

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 30, 2016 11:51 PM  

Well, well, well. It's the Current Year, and it's certainly getting way too Current for my stomach.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 30, 2016 11:58 PM  

slarrow @103, I have to disagree. We have seen this notion that Adams refers to, this supposed high reverence for the sanctity of the political process, non-interference in it, and so forth. I mentioned the example of Ken Starr vs. FLOTUS Hillary Clinton, I'll throw in Justice John Roberts v. Obamacare. These are examples of where the supposed high reverence came into play, as Starr and Roberts white knighted for it.

In all such cases the white knight move is the absolute worst thing one can do. The plain fact is that elements of our system have an appointed job to do, and they MUST do them if the system is to work. If you are an FBI director, you must apply the rule of law. If you are a Supreme Court justice, you must defend the Constitution. Or things go horribly wrong.

What James Comey did was not just wrong but egregiously wrong, and he introduced _insanely bad_ interference into that sanctified political process by not doing his appointed job. Consider, in James Surowieki's book _The Wisdom Of The Crowd_ he laid out five conditions where the crowd wisdom goes wrong, where group decisions (such as an election) fail. Primo among those reasons was misinformation. It's the surest way to get a bad result. It's the old "garbage in, garbage out" phenom.

Comey's stance of "I'll not prosecute, but I'll be tough on her" did not go over as Adams claimed. Quite the opposite, no sooner had he announced no prosecution then the Hillary camp declared complete vindication. That there was no "there, there", and never was, etc. And that was the narrative. Comey's action, therefore, introduced misinformation into the process. He sullied his supposedly revered high sanctity of political process.

That white knighting move is such weaksauce. Okay, maybe an argument can be made that however it fell out, Comey really did pursue this course with these intentions, he just chose very poorly and it blew up in his face. Big mistake.

I don't know about that - he did actively and wilfully fail to do his job in order to achieve this outcome. The case against Hillary Clinton is not some slight thing, Comey had an overwhelming case against her. Again, not a slight case, but an overwhelming case.

And even so, the choice to prosecute or not is not even in his job description. It's Loretta Lynch's. All he had to do was do his job and pass along the recommendation of the inquiry. He went well out of his way to torpedo this, he went out and assumed authority his office did NOT even have in order to do so. He made the Attorney General's call for her. Why? Because she got caught in the tarmac in Phoenix having a secret meeting with Bill Clinton.

That's why. If that's not a white knight move but a dirty cop move, I don't know what is.

Blogger OGRE October 30, 2016 11:58 PM  

If the pedophile thing is for real, that would be game changing in more ways than one. The situation makes it unhidable, unable to be buried. The absolute disgust and revulsion the vast majority of people in this country would feel towards Hillary, the DNC for letting her steal the nomination, and the SJWs and other related perverts would be immense. The narrative then becomes "See! We told you that a bunch of perverts are trying to corrupt our society and diddle our daughters in womens bathrooms." This would go beyond mere election politics and cut right through the social justice bullshit, right to the heart of the forces driving the division in our country.

Blogger Quizzer W October 31, 2016 12:01 AM  

Maybe they'll run with "It's their private life!" It'll be like we're reliving the '90s. I hope they bring back grunge, too. I kinda miss grunge.

Blogger Noah B October 31, 2016 12:01 AM  

The law on this isn't at all clear to me. If Hillary steps down, would a vote for Hillary automatically become a vote for Kaine? I mean, why should it? Is there any law or precedent on this? And would that vary state by state? This has the potential to be a truly epic clusterfuck.

Anonymous Ron October 31, 2016 12:01 AM  

@121

If true. It all changes. All of it.

Blogger Noah B October 31, 2016 12:02 AM  

"I did not have sex with those children"

Blogger OneWingedShark October 31, 2016 12:03 AM  

JWM in SD wrote:There is something very weird about this whole thing and it has to do with the Iran deal in my opinion.

The Iran Deal is very provably Treason; not TV-treason, but hanged-by-the-neck-until-dead defined-by-the-Constitution Treason — which is hard to prove, legally, and by design, considering what the framers had gone through… but the Iran Deal is almost like a checklist proof for Treason: see here. (10 pg PDF; lighter read than it sounds due to quotes and references proving the Treason.)

— If Hillary is involved, and I strongly suspect that (with the Clinton Foundation's influence peddling) there is proof of it, then it is literally a matter of life and death for her (and many others). This makes them afraid, and so they're acting out of fear.

Anonymous Takin' a Look October 31, 2016 12:06 AM  

"The Other RobotOctober 30, 2016 11:50 PM
Where are the logs showing the Weiner and Hilldog on the Lolita Express?"

At this point, what difference does it make?

Blogger OGRE October 31, 2016 12:06 AM  

@126 Hillary has been quoted as saying "If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist Fuck will have us swinging from nooses!"

Blogger Basil Makedon October 31, 2016 12:06 AM  

@120 I agree. I would also add that Scott Adams' theory doesn't hold water for an additional reason: Comey didn't give the Democrats the opportunity to make an informed decision either. Had he recommended an indictment, there could have been a Democrat replacement candidate before or at the convention.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 31, 2016 12:07 AM  

@123 -- We don't vote for any of the candidates, we vote for electors who have pledged to a candidate. If any candidate withdraws, dies, or gets indicted before the Electoral College meets, that's terra incognita. Rules regarding how electors are bound vary from state to state.

Blogger OGRE October 31, 2016 12:08 AM  

Remember people, we aren't voting for the actual candidates, we are voting for a slate of electors pledged to vote for that party's candidate. If Hillary can't or won't continue to run, the electors can vote for whomever. So whether she continues to be a candidate it doesn't invalidate any votes for her or the Dem party; the votes are for the electors not for her.

Anonymous Ron October 31, 2016 12:11 AM  

Well, when the dust settles. Feel free to endorse me as Attorney General.

Under my watch, I can guarantee that the Clinton family will be charged, convicted and in prison.

Anonymous Sharrukin October 31, 2016 12:15 AM  

"we vote for electors"

Meaning GOP and Democratic party flunkies.

And if you can't trust them...well, who can you trust?

Blogger Elder Son October 31, 2016 12:20 AM  

@123

If a president steps down, who takes his place? I honestly don't see why it should be any different during the election.

Rather than create a "constitutional crisis", and an excuse for CoG, Kaine should replace her.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 31, 2016 12:20 AM  

I never did get that. After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?

How else would a sociopath's empty soul measure his virtue? This is also why they're just as happy with shrinking the pie in a way that their rank goes up; they lack internal weights and measures, so "winning" is merely about beating you -- and there's always someone with a bigger yacht, so they can never quit the hedonic treadmill.

Blogger Noah B October 31, 2016 12:23 AM  

@130 I'm aware that we vote for electors, but isn't there usually an intermediate step like a Secretary of State certifying the election results, which is what actually directs the electors as to how to cast their votes? So what does a Secretary of State to if it's 22% Hillary, 25% Kaine, and 46% Trump?

Maybe there are well defined protocols for this situation. Then again, maybe not.

Blogger Noah B October 31, 2016 12:26 AM  

@134 The protocol for a president stepping down/dying is provided in the Constitution and has occurred several times, so that's not really comparable.

Anonymous Professor October 31, 2016 12:27 AM  

I want hundreds of democrats in jail, take down the entire Democratic machine on a Rico charge, and everybody involved in the foundation. That is what a start on cleaning the Augean stables would look like. Make the scandal so big and painful nobody will ever think about doing this again.

Cernovich has hinted a bunch of times that there are a lot more pedophiles in politics than us regular people could imagine. It makes sense as a way of keeping people in line- kind of like "The Firm" but much dirtier.

Anonymous Jack October 31, 2016 12:30 AM  

If that's true, it would be nice if they were leaked to the public prior to the election. Hopefully that's what "These next couple days will be interesting" means.

Blogger Noah B October 31, 2016 12:31 AM  

@138 I want George Soros to hang himself with his own linens.

Anonymous Andrew E. October 31, 2016 12:32 AM  

Trump's always known how deep this goes with the Clinton Foundation and Epstein. That's why he's always so confident about getting his program through Congress. He knows all the pressure points. It will be a glorious 8 years.

Blogger haus frau October 31, 2016 12:33 AM  

Another thought, the Bush family has known the Clinton's and swam in the same fish bowl with them for years. There's no way they don't know who these people really are and yet Bush senior and family are supporting her this election. I won't hold my breath but the public should be calling into question everything the incestuous elite have done to this country over the years, their motivations and the real nature of their decisions. You have to be awfully naive or apathetic to believe that Bush, Obama, McCain, Clinton, etc. have mired this country in one foreign entanglement after another all for the sake of spreading freedom and democracy to the poor oppressed peoples of the world.....except for Saudi of course.
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2003/02/06/15709461.php

Blogger Nobody In Particular October 31, 2016 12:34 AM  

Democrats probably really want the first female President to be a Democrat. They have waited for so long (8 years), they may not want to wait for another 4 years. Also, this will be a propaganda victory that they'll use in every possible way.
Whatever happens, Clinton won't be indicted until the election. After the election, she can be pardoned. Then, whenever someone brings up her misdeeds, Democrats and the mainstream press can just shut down the discussion by pointing out that she has never been indicted, then crying sexism.
Until the election, they can just pretend to believe in the presumption of innocence. In order to be persuaded that Clinton is guilty, they have to make a logical inference and you cannot force someone to make a logical inference. There is also the press to muddy the waters and give plausible deniability.
Anyway, I don't think Democrats ever cared too much for Clinton as a person or thought she was particularly good. In this way, she can still serve as a token. First female president: another one checked off the bucket list. If she later comes out as bicurious or whatever, then it's a two-for-one.

Anonymous Andrew E. October 31, 2016 12:35 AM  

So what does a Secretary of State to if it's 22% Hillary, 25% Kaine, and 46% Trump?

Dude, it's going to be like 65-35 for Trump. Get ready.

Anonymous Andrew E. October 31, 2016 12:37 AM  

There are probably a number of SCOTUS justices that will have to resign before this is all over. Trump really may get the chance to appoint 5 justices in his first 4 years.

Anonymous Just another commenter October 31, 2016 12:38 AM  

@136 - I'm betting that there are going to be a lot of hurriedly drafted laws about dealing with unusual election situations hitting the books soon in any state that doesn't have a clear path to walk.

@138 - perhaps it's because they are easy to control. You elect a moron that can't control his weewee, then you tell him what to say, how to vote, and where to go. All the power, none of the public appearances; stay on the sidelines, have your stoolie send hefty contracts your way. I hope the FBI can leverage this into a LOT of jail-time for a lot of people.

@126 - if we chould dispose of most of congress on a treason charge, or at least a credible threat of it such that most of them retire and don't run again, life would be very good.

Blogger OGRE October 31, 2016 12:41 AM  

@136 The Sec of State certifies the slate of electors, not the candidate.

It doesn't really matter whose name is at the top of the ticket, any vote cast for that name is a vote for that slate of electors, as determined by the corresponding party.

The big issue would be if Hillary has to step aside due to some major criminal conduct, such as murder, pedophilia, etc., this close to an election, theres no way to change the ballots. Her name and all that it signifies is still on the ticket. And it becomes a very visceral experience to have to vote for that person, even if its not actually a vote for that person. Also, theres the risk of people knowing that a candidate isn't running so then they won't vote for that candidates electors. Thats the danger of having the candidate step down; the ballots can't be changed this close to the election. Every vote is for Hillary according to the ballots, even if something changes such that she withdraws or is forced out; but every vote is for the Dem electors even if it still says Hillary on the ballot.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 31, 2016 12:45 AM  

@145
There are probably a number of SCOTUS justices that will have to resign before this is all over.

Starting with Roberts.

Blogger pyrrhus October 31, 2016 12:47 AM  

A Constitutional crisis is almost guaranteed if Hillary manages to steal the election and quash the prosecution of her multitudinous crimes. I don't think there's any way out of it. Nixon was impeached for 18 missing minutes of tape. Hillary deleted 33000 emails that were under subpoena, and committed innumerable other felonies. But the Israel First cucks like Krauthammer still want her....

Blogger pyrrhus October 31, 2016 12:48 AM  

There are probably a number of SCOTUS justices that will have to resign before this is all over.

Starting with Roberts.

A delicious prospect....

Anonymous JAG October 31, 2016 12:49 AM  

"Not even Hillary's most ardent supporters and defenders will be able to excuse THIS!"

Oh yes they can, and they are trying as we speak. There is no sub human low leftists won't sink to.

And in Kek news, the Washington Compost gave Trump 4 Pinocchios for his opinion that Hillary's scandal is bigger than Watergate. Yep, the Compost actually "fact checked" a subjective opinion of a comparison.

Anonymous Sharrukin October 31, 2016 12:49 AM  

147. OGRE October 31, 2016 12:41 AM

"It doesn't really matter whose name is at the top of the ticket, any vote cast for that name is a vote for that slate of electors, as determined by the corresponding party."

So Kaine and Pence are essentially non-factors in this as they are not yet VPs.

Can the party designate whomever they want to be the successor candidate?

Blogger OneWingedShark October 31, 2016 12:50 AM  

OGRE wrote:@126 Hillary has been quoted as saying "If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist Fuck will have us swinging from nooses!"

Interesting; I did not know that.

haus frau wrote:I won't hold my breath but the public should be calling into question everything the incestuous elite have done to this country over the years, their motivations and the real nature of their decisions. You have to be awfully naive or apathetic to believe that Bush, Obama, McCain, Clinton, etc. have mired this country in one foreign entanglement after another all for the sake of spreading freedom and democracy to the poor oppressed peoples of the world.....except for Saudi of course.

Good point; it also fits well with the past few elections which, honestly, seem to have been set up to weaken the natural born citizen requirement (McCain/Obama, both had issues w/ birthplaces; Obama/Romney, both had issues w/ parentage [Romney's dad was apparently not a citizen at the time of his birth]; and lastly the big push we saw in the primaries for obviously-ineligible Ted Cruz) — and since at least Bush/Gore it seems that Globalists (or at least Statists) were set up to hold the primaries's nominations.

Anonymous surly October 31, 2016 12:50 AM  

The twitter account looks fake. David Goldberg couldn't be a more generic name. He just joined in July, and he's a "Jew, Lawyer and New Yorker". And look at that avatar pic... is that nose even real? I mean come on.

Blogger praetorian October 31, 2016 12:53 AM  

[80's flavored cocaine use intensifies]

Blogger haus frau October 31, 2016 1:00 AM  

@154 YEah I wonder about that. Google his name and you will get some financial sector ceo who died last year. His post is a realistic possibility but then, who the hell is David Goldberg? Who is Carmen Katz? I guess we will find out soon enough.

Blogger Unknown October 31, 2016 1:05 AM  

Dave McGowan Pedophacracy

http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html#The_Pedophocracy,_Part_III:_Uncle_Sam_Wants_Your_Children__

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 31, 2016 1:07 AM  

"Dude, it's going to be like 65-35 for Trump. Get ready."

I sure hope you're right. But a little thumbnail math... (preferences, not turnout, which will make the crucial difference.)

ALL NON-WHITES: Solidly Hillary. Actually they're not voting for her, they're voting anti-white.
Latinos of course, have an extra special animus against Trump (and have already committed serious violence on that account). The nail-biter here is what their turnout will be, and what their egregious faked turnout will be.

GAYS AND JEWS: Solidly anti-white, (in the case of Jews, gleefully, deliriously anti-white), therefore solidly Hillary

WHITE WOMEN: A tougher call, but solidly Hillary, just less viciously so than the above groups.

That leaves white men, a substantial number of whom are either cucked, batsh!t stupid, or brainwashed into not recognizing their own interests. There is of course also a tidal wave of enthusiastic white men, but since white men are essentially the basic quiditas of America, that thing which basically makes the thing... this election is essentially a measurement of whether America is finally mathematically over with. I mean, it's been spiritually and culturally dead for quite some time, but this will be an autopsy report of sorts.

That said, I'd love to see you be right.


Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 31, 2016 1:10 AM  

Looks like the FBI is blocking itself in this investigation already. They have determined that they need a search warrant to proceed:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/need-warrant-may-delay-resolution-clinton-email-case/

Note that the laptop under question was already supposed to have been handed over by Huma, who in fact testified that she did hand over all devices.

Also, the device in question was freely surrendered by her husband. In such case typically a warrant or subpoena is not required. The FBI here is saying they need a search warrant to search a surrendered item that is already in their possession. Which smacks of utter bs.

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 31, 2016 1:14 AM  

If Trump loses (D.N.), then that game is over and the new game, Secession and Partition, begins. In which case, the slogan not be "Make America Great Again," it will be "Make America Again."

Blogger OGRE October 31, 2016 1:21 AM  

@158 actually white women go for Trump. If the demo is all women then it goes strong for Hillary.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 31, 2016 1:22 AM  

107. Natalie October 30, 2016 11:26 PM
There has been speculation as to whether a president can serve from a jail cell. The answer in Hillary's particular case seems to be "no."



that's my point.

IF Hillary wins,
THEN Obama demands Comey resign
AND Justice / Loretta Lynch decry Comey's action as a 'vast right wing conspiracy' to unduly influence the election and 'defraud' the will of the American people ( illegal aliens ).

neither Obama nor Hillary nor Biden nor any of the rest of the pieces of shit at the top of Demoncrat party give a fuck how many FBI agents resign.

without a Trump win, Comey is the ONLY person at risk here, simply because he is ( may be ) going rogue.

failing to stay loyal to the winning side when they thought they had bought you fair and square can be very, VERY hazardous to your future health and well being.

IF Hillary wins the election
THEN there is ZERO chance that she goes to jail ... providing we don't get a video dump of her molesting 10 year olds or something.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 31, 2016 1:23 AM  

Re: my own post @159 about the FBI's warrant - Nevermind, I've been informed now that they did get that warrant a few hours ago. Still smells weird, tho. You don't need a warrant when you've been granted permission to search, as happened.

Blogger Dutchman October 31, 2016 1:30 AM  

So now we know why they were in such a hurry to push for acceptance of pedophilia.

Blogger Kona Commuter October 31, 2016 1:38 AM  

@164 - Earlier in the year Milo did predict that the left will be trying to make paedophilia acceptable.

Anonymous Takin' a Look October 31, 2016 1:42 AM  

The Kikenvermin rat Podesta is whining BIG TIME.

http://www.dailystormer.com/podesta-attacks-james-comey-on-cnn/

Blogger Kona Commuter October 31, 2016 1:46 AM  

I've got to take my hat off to you Americans. Nobody puts on a spectacle like you guys and gals. You got my attention with 9/11 and now this?

What are the chances of a coup d'état?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 31, 2016 1:52 AM  

I never did get that. After a certain point, how much fucking money do you need?
As much as you can get.Do not mistake these fucks as being honorable nor decent.

Anonymous Ron October 31, 2016 1:55 AM  

@ 162

I wouldn't be so sure of that. If the FBI has clearly revolted, that layer of protection is gone. This system is held together by armed employees of the state, and that is it. If they stand down, anything can happen.

Blogger Can't wait October 31, 2016 2:08 AM  

Child sex ring...Weiner, Clintons, Epstein. Sounds right.

Blogger Can't wait October 31, 2016 2:15 AM  

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Blogger residentMoron October 31, 2016 2:17 AM  

The problem with corrupt institutions is their advertising becomes more stridently and desperately noble the more corrupt they actually are.

And there are many people who want to believe the noble sentiments and high principles, who want to work for such a noble purpose and who, once appointed to such roles, actually try their best to implement them.

Hence the never-ending line of reformers, whistleblowers, and protesters shuffling from the boardroom to the gallows

I hope they crucify the bitch.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 31, 2016 2:39 AM  

The point isn't trusting the court system. There has been speculation as to whether a president can serve from a jail cell.

Darling, the courts have to put Hillary in that jail cell, because she sure ain't going to walk into it on her own out of a sudden sense of remorse.

Blogger Shimshon October 31, 2016 2:41 AM  

The main photo at this article on Hillary's Last Stand:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/laptop-may-include-thousands-of-emails-linked-to-hillary-clintons-private-server-1477854957

Has at least three visible Trump signs behind her (plus an obscured sign to the right)! Along with the ever present Magic Negro.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 31, 2016 2:45 AM  

If the FBI has clearly revolted...

Hillary Clinton has been in Washington for many, many years, and she doesn't exactly have a reputation of using her winning personality to earn the undying loyalty of underlings (dying underlings on the other hand...). I could easily imagine a whole bunch of career staffers more than happy to help throw her under the biggest bus they could find.

Anonymous Ron October 31, 2016 2:50 AM  

@175

Sarcasm?

There are real men in the FBI. As evident from the memo.

Anonymous Ron October 31, 2016 2:55 AM  

Yeah, I agree. @175

The rank and file probably hate her. As any upstanding agent that takes an oath would.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 31, 2016 3:15 AM  

177. Ron
Survey says you are a big time dumb ass.
You don't have to apologize, but you should.

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 31, 2016 3:20 AM  

OT: somebody linked to the /pol/ meme workshop for #TheVotingDead, it was pretty groovy to see those bad boys in action.

If someone talks to them over there, this might be a fun one for #draftourdaughters:

Hillary Deleted Tens of Thousands of E-mails
Now She Wants to Delete Tens of Thousands of Females
#draftourdaughters

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Blogger Elder Son October 31, 2016 3:35 AM  

Elder Son wrote:@123

If a president steps down, who takes his place? I honestly don't see why it should be any different during the election.

Rather than create a "constitutional crisis", and an excuse for CoG, Kaine should replace her.


Noah B wrote:@134 The protocol for a president stepping down/dying is provided in the Constitution and has occurred several times, so that's not really comparable.

It may not be comparable as written on constitutional parchment, but I fail to see where it couldn't be comparable. It beats a constitutional crisis and the after-affects. On the other hand, they could nullify the winning party, and put in the losing second party, which would be Bernie. But then again, votes have already been cast.

Just another commenter wrote:@136 - I'm betting that there are going to be a lot of hurriedly drafted laws about dealing with unusual election situations hitting the books soon in any state that doesn't have a clear path to walk.

I am sure the whole process in the meantime, will go schizoid. It's going to be interesting to see what they do, while they are hurriedly drafting laws.

We were warned about "political parties". And here we are with just two. What a spectacle.

Blogger Elder Son October 31, 2016 3:42 AM  

Fact is, every LEA from local to fed oversteps the boundaries of our constitution. I fail to see what is respectable about that.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 31, 2016 3:46 AM  

I've got to take my hat off to you Americans. Nobody puts on a spectacle like you guys and gals.

Thanks! We're proud of it.

You got my attention with 9/11 and now this?

Umm... what? That's creepy.

What are the chances of a coup d'état?

Zero. Zip. Nada. And I'm starting to wonder what kind of weird foreign freak you are.

Civil War II, now that's a possibility. In a 4GW way.

But a coup? Not in a million years. Whoever you are, you don't understand us at all.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 31, 2016 3:49 AM  

Peep this joint! This is a historian of La Cosa Nostra speaking about the Clinton Crime Family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7Mwwdq5Qc

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 31, 2016 3:50 AM  

I'm not saying that Cosa Nostra was a good thing but it is becoming apparent that RICO is becoming a means by which the Federal government sought to eliminate competition and nothing more.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 31, 2016 3:53 AM  

But a coup? Not in a million years. Whoever you are, you don't understand us at all.

True, but then you have to ask the question... are we still who we used to be?

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 31, 2016 4:10 AM  

So now we know why they were in such a hurry to push for acceptance of pedophilia.

I hope that our pushback made a difference, attempting to predict what weird perversion they would try to normalize and even mandate next, through the dictatorial SCOTUS that hates Americans and our morality and wants to replace us.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 31, 2016 4:29 AM  

True, but then you have to ask the question... are we still who we used to be?

Well, no, but the spics don't have the numbers. Yet. And it's just another aspect of "white flight" that we would find 4G civil war preferable to coup, because avoidance and legalism. (War is non-illegal due to being extra-legal.)

Blogger Kona Commuter October 31, 2016 4:43 AM  

SciVo de Plorable wrote:

Zero. Zip. Nada. And I'm starting to wonder what kind of weird foreign freak you are.

Civil War II, now that's a possibility. In a 4GW way.

But a coup? Not in a million years. Whoever you are, you don't understand us at all.


Just asking bro. Just don't let your President goad Russia or China into launching nukes as my country is a target as well because my country suffers from "little man syndrome" and some how has managed to piss off China, Indonesia and Russia by threatening them. Hell, our then Prime Minister physically threatened Putin whom was a guest in our country at the time.

To top it all off "Mr Shorten (opposition leader) also noted the level of diversity in Parliament, saying that all but five politicians "are exclusively migrants or the descendants of migrants"." http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/malcolm-turnbull-calls-out-racial-and-religious-discrimination-after-recent-poll-on-muslims/ar-BBxdUuq?li=AA4RE4&ocid=spartanntp

Blogger Kona Commuter October 31, 2016 4:47 AM  

Re coup (yeah they're YouTube clips)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kczIzIVsAQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1iji5DXeXw

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 31, 2016 5:32 AM  

@104 is (((Dershowitz))) the original model for the (((le merchant))) cartoon? An awful archetype of perversion from every young girl's nightmare

Anonymous Bz October 31, 2016 5:46 AM  

The local media here in my European country are mostly going on about how outrageous it is that the FBI is trying to influence the election, and here are a few more senior Democrat figures who are very outraged indeed. Also, the unacceptable Trump has been making sinister comments.

Lots of spinning about reactions and very little analysis of what's really going on, in other words. While they can't ignore it, the reasonable interpretation is that the obedient local lügenmedia are ready to simply discard the whole affair if given the opportunity.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 31, 2016 5:56 AM  

@109 Remember when Bilderberg, Bohemian grove, CFR, trilateral commission, etc...etc...were all just conspiracy theories and anyone mentioning them dismissed as a loon?

The paedophilia amongst the elites is just as true - look at Jimmy saville and his personal connections to royalty, politicians and establishment figures. They all knew what he was doing (including the queen and PM Thatcher) I will not be surprised when their participation is shown.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 31, 2016 6:07 AM  

Is there any crime Hillary could commit that would either lose her the support of entitlement parasites or cause the NeverTrumpers to feel an ounce of shame? I don't think even substantiated allegations of underage sex would move single moms, Mexicans, Bill Kristol. There is just a lot of scum whose participation in the political process is incompatible with civilization. We will get a precise measure of their percentage of the population next week.

Anonymous Lester Burnham October 31, 2016 6:48 AM  

Perhaps someone said this hundreds of comments ago, but: If indictments had gown handed out before nowe, the globalist machine would have had ample time to choose another corrupt candidate. Instead, now they're fucked in the ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIL8HRJ7MQ

Anonymous Oye October 31, 2016 6:59 AM  

No evidence of Trump doing anything this bad yet bang your fists on tables and fabricate evidence saying he did. Plenty of evidence Hillary does this stuff and suppress suppress suppress..... she made it to even 8 days before the election speaks highly of the electorate. #WesternCivilizationIsStillWorthSaving

Anonymous Avalanche October 31, 2016 8:54 AM  

@40 "Comey understands that Trump will win convincingly, and is acting accordingly to save his career and reputation."

If Comey is as smart as everyone says, he knows he cannot possibly 'save his career.' He will be forever *branded,* scorned as the man who ran... er... who lied to the world to cover up for a traitor. There is nothing he can do or say that will wipe that clean -- ESPECIALLY not with Trump!!

Blogger Natalie October 31, 2016 9:03 AM  

Jack Amok wrote:The point isn't trusting the court system. There has been speculation as to whether a president can serve from a jail cell.

Darling, the courts have to put Hillary in that jail cell, because she sure ain't going to walk into it on her own out of a sudden sense of remorse.



I'm fully as cynical as you could hope - I was responding to up thread comments saying "Well, she could still be president in jail." The answer in this case appears to be no - I was replying to a theoretical question. That doesn't mean anyone thinks she's actually going to end up there.

I don't think even Trump will change that actually. The Trumpslide happens and she's on the first jet to Quatar and good riddance to bad rubbish.

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