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Sunday, October 23, 2016

"He has opened the doors to the demons of Hell"

Why anyone would still pay any attention to an Obama-voting moron like Walter Russell Mead is well beyond me:
President Obama’s faltering foreign policy has taken another serious hit. It is hard to think of another American president whose foreign policy initiatives failed as badly or as widely as Obama’s. The reconciliation with the Sunni world? The reset with Russia? Stabilizing the Middle East by tilting toward Iran? The Libya invasion? The Syria abstention? The ‘pivot to Asia’ was supposed to be the centerpiece of Obama’s global strategy; instead the waning months of the Obama administration have seen an important U.S. ally pivot toward China in the most public and humiliating way possible.
Duterte clearly thinks that humiliating Obama in this way is a solid career move. He certainly believes that China will support him against the critics at home and abroad who will wring their hands over his shift. He presumably has had some assurances from his Chinese hosts that if he commits his cause to them, they will back him to the hilt.

This points to a broader problem: Obama’s tortuous efforts to balance a commitment to human rights and the niceties of American liberal ideology with a strong policy in defense of basic American security interests have made the world less safe for both human rights and for American security. As the revisionist powers (Russia, China, and Iran) gain ground, foreign leaders feel less and less need to pay attention to American sermons about human rights and the rule of law. Death squads and extra-judicial executions on a large scale: the Americans will lecture you but China will still be your friend. Barrel bombing hospitals in Aleppo? The Russians won’t just back you; they will help you to do it. Obama’s foreign policy is making the world safer for people who despise and trample on the very values that Obama hoped his presidency would advance. His lack of strategic insight and his inability to grasp the dynamics of world power politics have opened the door to a new generation of authoritarian figures in alliance with hostile great powers.

Unintentionally, and with the best of intentions, he has opened the doors to the demons of Hell, and the darkest forces in the human spirit have much greater scope and much more power today than they did when he took the oath of office back in 2009.
Unintentionally? With the best of intentions? Is Mead talking about Obama or himself? Remember, as Mead excoriates Obama's foreign policy, that he not only voted for Obama, but voted to re-elect him. But it's not as if Obama's foreign policy was any better from 2008 to 2012 than it has been from 2012 to 2016.

Moreover, the man quite obviously has learned nothing from his past mistakes. Juxtapose these two phrases from the same article.
  • "Secretary Clinton is well aware of just how damaging the Filipino defection is in Asia; she helped develop the Obama administration’s Asia strategy."
  • "Should Secretary Clinton make it to the White House, her first and biggest job will be to stop and then reverse the deterioration in America’s global position that her predecessor permitted."
So, Mead not only voted - twice - for the man who permitted the deterioration in America's global position, but now advocates voting for the woman who helped develop that failed strategy.

Either Mead is incredibly stupid, or, as with Obama, we need to question whether he serves those very demons to whom the doors of Hell have been opened.

If there is not a Trumpslide on November 8th, there is a very good chance that the USA will find itself at war with a Russo-Chinese alliance. And that is a war that a USA saddled with the incompetent and unwell Hillary Clinton as Commander-in-Chief will almost certainly lose.

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Blogger buwaya puti October 23, 2016 1:30 PM  

I completely agree with this.

US Asian strategy for the last 20 years has been ineffectual, its not just Obama or Clinton.
If the US wanted to hold on to empire and the Pax Americana, its been screwing up very badly.
If the goal was isolationism, its even worse, as you are exposed to foreign risks with diminished power abroad.
The whole thing is a muddle, not one thing or the other.

Anonymous fish October 23, 2016 1:34 PM  

So, Mead not only voted - twice - for the man who permitted the deterioration in America's global position, but now advocates voting for the woman who helped develop that failed strategy.


It's Washington D.C.....where nothing succeeds like failure.

Anonymous Just another commenter October 23, 2016 1:47 PM  

The irony of Mead writing for something called "The American Interest" is not lost to me.

Blogger JWM in SD October 23, 2016 1:47 PM  

Right Fish, because Hitlery has been failing forward for over 40 years now.

Blogger Escoffier October 23, 2016 1:50 PM  

I find your have less and less patience for this idea that these are failed strategies. Methinks they are accomplishing exactly what they set out to accomplish.

Blogger PatrickH October 23, 2016 1:58 PM  

Mead has argued there are four main streaks in the American character, without any one of which America would cease to be what it has been. He names them after figures in American history: the Jeffersonian, Hamiltonian, Jacksonian and Wilsonian. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. But they are all essential to the American character. Mead has taken a lot of heat for being a Jacksonian apologist, and I think the heat is somewhat deserved. The Jacksonian streak in the American character is honor-based, contemptuous of cowardice, trickery, treachery and cupiditiy. Should an enemy of America attack Americans, especially women and children, in a treacherous underhanded duplicitous manner, as (perhaps)with the Japanese with Pearl Harbor, or, as with Jackson himself, Indians murdering settlers in their beds, the reaction is...extreme. All-out war, at the least demands for unconditional surrender, or more, the complete destruction of the enemy people. Mead has argued that one of the reasons American simply do not condemn Israel for its reprisal attacks is that the Jacksonian streak in Americans recognizes Israelis as being the same kind of people in the same kind of situation.

I read his essay through that perspective. Look at all the aplogetic words and phrases he bestows upon Obama: failure, humiliation, "making the world safe for the very sort of people who despise and trample on...Obama."

"Lack of strategic insight..". "Inability to grasp the dynamics of world power politics.."

I think a between-the-lines reading leads to the conclusion that Mead is an apologist for Obama the same way Scott Adams was an endorser of Hillary "for his own personal protection."

Blogger Derrick Bonsell October 23, 2016 2:07 PM  

Perhaps Mead is just a disingenuous asshole?

Blogger pyrrhus October 23, 2016 2:12 PM  

"Either Mead is incredibly stupid, or, as with Obama, we need to question whether he serves those very demons to whom the doors of Hell have been opened."

Door #2 to hell....Next question?

Blogger Stilicho October 23, 2016 2:12 PM  

Just read today that Soros is funding democrat prosecutor candidates around the country to make sure that prominent leftists are not prosecuted while any who oppose or resist them are. Think Lorreta Lynch and Hillary writ small... everywhere.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 23, 2016 2:17 PM  

PatrickH wrote:I think a between-the-lines reading leads to the conclusion that Mead is an apologist for Obama the same way Scott Adams was an endorser of Hillary "for his own personal protection."
ytou're way over-thinking it. Mead endorsed Obama enthusiastically, voted for him 4x (primary and general) and has announced he's voting for Hillary and encourages others to do so.

He's just dismayed that all the good intentions in the world aren't worth a fart in a hurricane when it comes to international relations. He fails entirely to see that the intentions aren't good at all.

Anonymous Doogle October 23, 2016 2:17 PM  

In order for America to be great do they have to project military power or can they not simply concentrate on protecting their own borders? As a Libertarian I don't see a problem losing the Philippines from the orbit of the USA. This is just another foreign entanglement.

Blogger Mr. Naron October 23, 2016 2:19 PM  

And they're not going to be able to find any Americans to fight that was because they're forcing soldiers to pay back tens of thousands of dollars in signing bonuses from the previous wars. Hillary is going to have to conscript, something she's been wanting to do for years. Plus, we're going to seen even more illegals lured into the service.

Anonymous BGKB October 23, 2016 2:24 PM  

Perhaps Mead is just a disingenuous asshole? Does he own a pink bow tie?

because Hitlery has been failing forward for over 40 years now.

I thought it was only since her stroke.


OT I wonder why the media is totally ignoring all of the 18 things TRUMP promised to do on his first day? Along with his 100 day plan. Its a good thing he only needs 4 hours of sleep.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/22/donald-trump-contract-with-the-american-voter/#more-123489

search on Google using this phrase: “the press thinks people are stupid” and look at the suggested searches:

trump supporters are ignorant
donald trump 50 stupidest tweets
donald trump supporters uneducated
trump is a buffoon

Not only are all these derogatory, they are all derogatory towards Donald Trump, when I did not even include Donald Trump in my search terms.

Google, your name is_____

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 23, 2016 2:31 PM  

Duterte clearly thinks that humiliating Obama in this way is a solid career move. He certainly believes that China will support him against the critics at home and abroad who will wring their hands over his shift. He presumably has had some assurances from his Chinese hosts that if he commits his cause to them, they will back him to the hilt.

True. False. Not necessarily.

It's clearly an isht test that Obama is certainly failing, and presumably wants to fail, hating America.

Blogger buwaya puti October 23, 2016 2:31 PM  

Mead, like many of his kind, vote due to tribal affiliation just as much as an Ilocano villager. Then he writes a lot to explain how he rationalizes it.

Blogger buwaya puti October 23, 2016 2:39 PM  

Sonewhat off topic -
If or when Trump walks into the Oval office he will be entering the biggest nest of vipers in human history. The whole "permanent government" will be his enemy, as also the attached interests. Its an incredibly corrupt system, I have been dealing with bits and pieces of it for 30 years, and have been getting more and more awed by the scale and coverage of the thing.
I was also, in my time, dealing with the PhilGov under Marcos when I was with AIG and AAndersen. Lets say that kleptocracy was far more modest and transparent than this one.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 23, 2016 2:39 PM  

WRM has been dining out in my intellectual space for about a decade or so because of the Jacksonian America essay, which I found very explanatory. He's grown tiresome, however, and I'm about to close that tab.

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Blogger Harsh October 23, 2016 2:59 PM  

If there is not a Trumpslide on November 8th, there is a very good chance that the USA will find itself at war with a Russo-Chinese alliance.

Putin 2020!

Anonymous johnc October 23, 2016 3:05 PM  

the USA will find itself at war with a Russo-Chinese alliance

I will be squarely on the side of Russia. There will be no more yellow ribbons or American flag waving fanaticism. If you're fighting in a war on behalf this corrupt government, you're my enemy.

In fact, if Hillary wins, I would expect every decent military member to resign. The ones that stay are the enemies within.

No more brother wars.

Blogger frigger611 October 23, 2016 3:06 PM  

Like most adult liberals I know, they are indeed incredibly stupid, but only because they actually believe in a non-existent fantasy world of their own creation that is largely detached from reality.

Basically, it's the philosophy of Kumbaya for all the world's people, (except for those with white European ancestry of course).

Whites are the state's "chosen people" to suffer and die, to pay for all sin, in order to usher in paradise for everyone else.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 23, 2016 3:07 PM  

I think a between-the-lines reading leads to the conclusion that Mead is an apologist for Obama the same way Scott Adams was an endorser of Hillary "for his own personal protection."

I disagree. I enjoyed his essay on The Jacksonian Tradition, but I recognized that he was Dian Fossey and I was a silverback gorilla.

Mead endorsed Obama enthusiastically, voted for him 4x (primary and general) and has announced he's voting for Hillary and encourages others to do so.

Now see, I could forgive the one, because I'm actually the mythical swing voter that can always spot a winner. (So you should be encouraged that I'm on Trump's side.) And anyway I was going through a spiritual quest, agnostic at the time when I voted for Obama 4x.

But I got better, and my rationalization hamster can't figure out how to excuse him for remaining so incredibly, horribly wrong.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 23, 2016 3:09 PM  

No surprise when you pander to women you think like women. Maybe Putin, Xi and Assad can be talked into wearing pink

Blogger exfarmkid October 23, 2016 3:13 PM  

I can't figure out if Obama/Clinton actually want a war with Russia or if they are crazy enough that they think they can bluff the Russians into backing down.

Lacking insider information, but being able to read a map and see the many locations the U.S. is pushing at the Russian borders, I don't think the Russian government can afford to back down.

Also possible that Hillary will immediately back off her insane bellicose rhetoric if she wins. But based on her history.....what are the odds?

Blogger Ingot9455 October 23, 2016 3:16 PM  

Must.. control... victory conditions... spergatron...!

Blogger ZhukovG October 23, 2016 3:21 PM  

The USA is in for a rough, possibly terminal, ride no matter who is elected.

Trump: Possible economic collapse and break up of the Union. But maybe reform and recovery.

Hillary: Possible economic collapse and break up of the Union. But with the added excitement of World War III to provide cover for the guilty parties.

Blogger Johnny October 23, 2016 3:29 PM  

What I have long noticed is that the hard left doesn't make deals. Obama's foreign policy is the same as his domestic policy. I won, this is what I want, my way or the highway.

Anonymous EH October 23, 2016 3:55 PM  

buwaya puti wrote:Sonewhat off topic -

If or when Trump walks into the Oval office he will be entering the biggest nest of vipers in human history. The whole "permanent government" will be his enemy, as also the attached interests. Its an incredibly corrupt system, I have been dealing with bits and pieces of it for 30 years, and have been getting more and more awed by the scale and coverage of the thing.


The 2010 SC case Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company Accounting Oversight Board held that the President has the constitutional prerogative to fire any officer of the Executive branch for any reason or none, regardless of what the Civil Service Act says. (Well, nearly. A law declaring all Fed. Exec. branch employees officers is needed.) Trump can use his constitutional authority to see that the laws are faithfully executed to ensure that bureaucrats are loyal and competent. He should do so en masse without giving them more than a few days warning. Have 98% of everybody in the Executive branch take a loyalty/intelligence/knowledge test at the same time, instant scoring, anybody who doesn't score high in the first two has two weeks to document their job and is transferred to a make-work / job-hunt department and let go over the course of a year, then the department is eliminated.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 23, 2016 3:55 PM  

Zerohedge has a fairly informative article up dealing with this

And yeah I have to agree with the poster up thread the American Left is out there in kooksville without a phone

Blogger Tom Kratman October 23, 2016 4:10 PM  

Other possibilities include, but are probably not limited to, a) he lied about voting for Obama, b) he voted for Obama in full realization that no single vote makes a shit of difference, c) he's split between being an emotional liberal and an intellectual conservative of some color.

Blogger praetorian October 23, 2016 4:21 PM  

A shekel for the good anglo...

I was disappointed to learn, upon clicking the link above, that this is was my free article this month at The (((American))) Interest and that "A quality publication is not cheap to produce."

Needless to say, I subscribed immediately.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 23, 2016 4:22 PM  

In fact, if Hillary wins, I would expect every decent military member to resign. The ones that stay are the enemies within.

No more brother wars.


I would prefer if they silently rebel in place, and retain control of their machines.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker October 23, 2016 4:32 PM  

@31: It's most likely C. WRM has written more about the ongoing collapse of the so-called "Blue Social Model" than anyone out there. Good. Stuff.

Yet WRM still operates from a place of supreme hope that the Democratic Party will wake up, come to its senses, and commence long overdue reforms. Fat. Chance.

As the old Russian proverb says, "hope dies last."

Blogger weka October 23, 2016 4:40 PM  

@32. End stage of a failing mag: go behind the paywall. Good authors we throw money at because we want their books.

On topic: Please withdraw from the TPP. (a) it will piss of the NZ gov't, and that is good (b) it stops Yankee lawyer scum litigating every rule in NZ (c) it means we can tariff the shit out of every product US Food and Agriculture subsidizes (d) we'd rather work with a free Britain. (We already have a free trade agreement with China.)

Blogger Tom Kratman October 23, 2016 4:43 PM  

"In fact, if Hillary wins, I would expect every decent military member to resign. The ones that stay are the enemies within."

Have you thought that one through at all? Are you really that enthused about turning over all that equipment to the enemy? Are you completely out of your mind?

Blogger FALPhil October 23, 2016 4:52 PM  

Either Mead is incredibly stupid, or, as with Obama, we need to question whether he serves those very demons to whom the doors of Hell have been opened.

I'm voting for stupid. Or at least severely emotionally handicapped.

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Blogger Zundfolge October 23, 2016 5:08 PM  

I hate to say it out loud but as a Christian who has studied Revelation and Daniel pretty extensively over the years, I don't see anything in either book that looks anything remotely like the good old USA (at least not the free, prosperous, powerful Christian constitutional republic we all like to think of when we think of the USA).

So at some point before the last days we're going to have to go. So there's no guarantee this isn't that time.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants October 23, 2016 5:19 PM  

As someone who once worked in politics, I can't seem to break the habit of vociferously reading any political or historical type writings. Despite this, I only vaguely remember that Jacksonian essay, and am drawing a complete blank in regards to Meade, himself. Should I feel stupid about this, or is he much more insignificant than he'd (obviously) ever imagine? In any event,judging him on his prior lack of just basic common sense, not just once, but twice, regarding Obama, I declare him severely lacking on many fronts.
Please correct me if I've gotten this wrong, and certainly let me know why that's the case.
Thanks. 😊

Anonymous ui_ty October 23, 2016 5:25 PM  

@12 " Plus, we're going to seen even more illegals lured into the service."

This is the most dangerous part. While perceptions of the legitimacy of the globalist Washington DC regime deteriorate, loyal Americans will decreasingly be willing to serve as mercenaries to fight the wars of globalist plutocrats actively working to destroy America and the rest of the West. The problem isn't just illegals, either. We have 50-100 million foreigners with papers inside our borders now. They have no loyalty to America.

Blogger weka October 23, 2016 5:35 PM  

@36. Dear Col.

There will be illegal orders if no Trumpslide: there are already stupid orders. Will the officer corp walk away or Beiful ist Beiful?

I know you love the US Army. But the imperium it serves?

Carnifex and H hour are good training manuals and fictions, but we don't want those worlds here.

In other countries, the solution -- from General Monk to Pinochet -- has been a coup. Watching from the outside, this could happen. Despite the society of Cincinnatus.

Blogger Kona Commuter October 23, 2016 5:39 PM  

@35 "Please withdraw from the TPP"

As an Australian I'm hoping that the TPP will allow US gun manufacturers sue the Australian governments (State and Federal) for lost earning over our gun laws. The US Manufacturers are losing the opportunity to sell me semi-auto firearms, high capacity magazines as well as concealed & open carry goods.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 23, 2016 6:17 PM  

Perhaps Walter Russell Mead could joins up with Victor Davis Hanson in writing some nice, calm, middle of the road sounding junk thought about Current Crises. I'm sure they could get it published in Atlantic or Foreign Affairs or some other dying, irrelevant mainstream publication.

I might read it. But I wouldn't buy it.

Blogger Noah B October 23, 2016 6:18 PM  

I don't recall Obama's exact words, but he's essentially said that America needs to be taken down a notch. On this issue, I take the man at his word and I assume that this is the ultimate goal of his foreign policy actions. And from this perspective, everything that Obama has done makes perfect sense.

Anonymous An Unpollable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 23, 2016 6:21 PM  

We have 50-100 million foreigners with papers inside our borders now.

So did 3rd and 4th century Rome. Good thing our Diverse Leadership is sooooo much mo' smarter than those deadwhitemales, ain't it?

Blogger Noah B October 23, 2016 6:26 PM  

@20 Putin 2020!

There are some crazy birther conspiracy theorists who insist that Putin was born in Russia, but he was actually born in Indiana. Totally eligible to be president.

Anonymous Viidad October 23, 2016 6:37 PM  

Zundfolge wrote:I hate to say it out loud but as a Christian who has studied Revelation and Daniel pretty extensively over the years, I don't see anything in either book that looks anything remotely like the good old USA (at least not the free, prosperous, powerful Christian constitutional republic we all like to think of when we think of the USA).

So at some point before the last days we're going to have to go. So there's no guarantee this isn't that time.


There's a very good chance those books don't mention the US because the main scope of their prophecies was fulfilled almost 2,000 years ago.

Blogger bearspaw October 23, 2016 6:44 PM  

@47
I heard he was from Moscow ID.

Blogger Chris Mallory October 23, 2016 6:44 PM  

johnc wrote:In fact, if Hillary wins, I would expect every decent military member to resign. The ones that stay are the enemies within.

The actual war fighters can't resign. The government considers that desertion and they can be shot for it. Who cares what the officers do, they are worthless for the most part anyway.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 23, 2016 6:48 PM  

If you dig a bit, weka, you can find the columns I did on a coup.

Most of the regulars will stick around. They have a lot of time invested, after all, though they'll convince themselves it's for more principled reasons. They won't break with DC until there's a fairly clear constitutional crisis, that cannot be looked at any other way. Simple election of the Hildebeest, while fraught with a future crisis, is not that crisis, itself.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 23, 2016 6:51 PM  

36. Tom Kratman October 23, 2016 4:43 PM
Have you thought that one through at all? Are you really that enthused about turning over all that equipment to the enemy?


IF Hillary wins / steals the election
THEN all that equipment belongs to the enemy anyways.

unless you're saying that all of a sudden we're going to have a bunch of officers and troops refusing to follow orders?



39. Zundfolge October 23, 2016 5:08 PM
I hate to say it out loud but as a Christian who has studied Revelation and Daniel pretty extensively over the years, I don't see anything in either book that looks anything remotely like the good old USA (at least not the free, prosperous, powerful Christian constitutional republic we all like to think of when we think of the USA).



the Whore.

pay special attention to the latter verses dealing with 'all the ships being idled and all the merchants of the earth'.

because everyone accepts our worthless debt script as 'money', our trade deficit 'enriches' all the merchants of the earth.

prior to ~1970, there was never any entity on the face of the planet which could have satisfied that part of the prophecy.

if Revelation is soon, the US is the only entity which could meet that definition.

if Revelation is withheld, it could yet wind up being some future global economic power.

however, the US is responsible, not only for using .Gov funds to pay for hundreds of thousands of abortions every year, we also export this policy all over the 3rd world.

*WE* are drunk on the blood of the innocents.

and we're also responsible ( via Obama's policies ) for the destruction of the Copt and Oriental Churches throughout North Africa and the Near East.

*WE* are persecuting the saints.

where is the UN located? so we deal with all the kings of the earth ... etc, etc

Blogger bearspaw October 23, 2016 7:02 PM  

When Bill Clinton won election, one particularly obnoxious Hollywood leftist by the name Ron Silver, gleefully announced that all those shiny jets and ships and tanks were now "theirs". Bill dutifully went on to involve the US a few immoral little wars that the military faithfully prosecuted. It would take an acute Constituional crisis to get anyone to mutiny.

Blogger Lovekraft October 23, 2016 7:11 PM  

I have observed that there is little to no mention of NoBordersBarack (not to mention the wife with smugface 1000) lately, as though his tenure is so bad it cannot even be spoken of.

Clock Boy Mohammed summarizes his tenure: mocking his own people in favor of the mischievous muslim.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 23, 2016 7:43 PM  

It's interesting to compare this take with Wretchard's at Belmont Club.

"One the most frequently cited reasons for electing Hillary is that only she can fix Obama's failures. She has the requisite familiarity with Gordian knot to untie it, because she helped entangle it. But that's not the half of it, Donald "The Outsider" Trump, everyone in the policy elite seems to have concluded, can't return things to normal because he doesn't know what they looked like Once Upon a Time, like Hillary did. "

Blogger weka October 23, 2016 7:46 PM  

@51. I do recall that post, Col. My though is that there have been too many shit tests -- marching in heels, pink uniforms etc -- that have weeded out the warriors, or are weeding out the warriors.

The careerists left will do what is ordered. God have mercy on their souls.

Anonymous Instasetting October 23, 2016 8:27 PM  

Meade's Four Styles of American Governance was brilliant, insightful, and offered an excellent model to help explain some perplexing elements of American life.

Along with Kim du Toit's 'The Pussification of the Western Male' and Wretchards 'Three Conjectures' it was one of the best articles written in the first decade of the millenium.

It was, and is, like your socio-sexual rank theory in being an understandable way to grasp undercurrents of society.

Anonymous BGKB October 23, 2016 8:49 PM  

If or when Trump walks into the Oval office he will be entering the biggest nest of vipers in human history

A lifetime of beating jews at the NYC real estate game if probably the best training.

noticed is that the hard left doesn't make deals. Obama's foreign policy is the same as his domestic policy. I won, this is what I want

The left makes deals, they just RENIG all the time like the BorderWall-Amnesty deal.

31 Kratman , c) he's split between being an emotional liberal and an intellectual conservative of some color

D) he used any argument that to support Israel

In other countries, the solution -- from General Monk to Pinochet -- has been a coup. Watching from the outside

While I would much prefer TRUMP to win and host the live game show "Don't Garrote Fewer Felons Than A Faggot", if the Pinochet helicopters are flying over Wall Street I would rather watch at home.

hoping that the TPP will allow US gun manufacturers sue the Australian governments (State and Federal) for lost earning over our gun laws.

Never expect 10,000+ pages of globalist gobblygook to be useable against globalist wishes. Just like you can't uses Alisnky's rules against people who have no honesty, integrity or goodwill.

shit tests -- marching in heels, pink uniforms etc -- that have weeded out the warriors, or are weeding out the warriors.

Don't forget that by 2017 all the seamen in the navy will have to take tranny classes.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/18/navy-requires-sailors-undergo-transgender-education-july-2017/

Although when TRUMP gets in those same sailors might be willing to toss their trainers in the ovens.

Blogger The Other Robot October 23, 2016 9:10 PM  

If there is not a Trumpslide on November 8th, there is a very good chance that the USA will find itself at war with a Russo-Chinese alliance.

What sort of war are we talking here?

It is unlikely that they will attack the lower 48.

It also seems like the height of folly to try to invade Russia.

A war at sea? That will be interesting.

What else?

Blogger Lazarus October 23, 2016 9:14 PM  

Tom Kratman wrote:They won't break with DC until there's a fairly clear constitutional crisis, that cannot be looked at any other way.

The constitution has become irrelevant. There will be no fairly clear constitutional crisis, because there is no surviving constitution.

All the previous real constitutional crises have passed without any patriotic response from the military.

Blogger FALPhil October 23, 2016 9:18 PM  

@39 I hate to say it out loud but as a Christian who has studied Revelation and Daniel pretty extensively over the years, I don't see anything in either book that looks anything remotely like the good old USA (at least not the free, prosperous, powerful Christian constitutional republic we all like to think of when we think of the USA).

You make an excellent case for pan-millennialism. Not that Daniel fits into the future, since all those prophesies were fulfilled thousands of years ago. Be sure to apply Occam's Razor to your prophesy interpretations. That the USA is not in the Bible in any form or fashion is clear to anyone who is not fixated on eschatology.

Blogger Lazarus October 23, 2016 9:25 PM  

FALPhil wrote:Not that Daniel fits into the future, since all those prophesies were fulfilled thousands of years ago.

That is the position the Jewish Study Bible takes, because, you know, they have to prove that Jesus was their Messiah.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein October 23, 2016 9:42 PM  

If there is not a Trumpslide on November 8th, there is a very good chance that the USA will find itself at war with a Russo-Chinese alliance. And that is a war that a USA saddled with the incompetent and unwell Hillary Clinton as Commander-in-Chief will almost certainly lose.

Even Hillary can't lose the homeland with Admirals Atlantic and Pacific along with the good ol' Second Amendment.
Getting kicked out of the Middle East and losing World Policeman status, might be a net positive.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett October 23, 2016 9:44 PM  

@59

We split the atom in '44. What rock do you live under?

Blogger ZhukovG October 23, 2016 9:54 PM  

@The Other Robot: We will probably start by trying to enforce a no-fly zone in Syria. We can apply overwhelming force and Russia will be able to put up only a valiant, but hopeless, defense. This will put Putin in a difficult position. If he doesn't respond it could be the end of his government and will certainly end Russia's reputation for opposing the US Empire. If he does respond the 'Western' Media will label him an aggressor, justifying all out war.

We will probably try to keep the war confined to Naval and Air operations since we would feel more confident in our technological superiority and also avoid all the problems with a 'land war in Asia'. We will attempt to strike military and economic targets throughout the Russian Federation.

It will come down to whether or not our aircraft are invisible to Russian air defense and also how good our ASW and AEGIS systems are.

If the American people watch a US Aircraft Carrier burn and sink on CNN/FOX News, it could really put a damper on our desire to fight, particularly since the war will be controversial to begin with.

Blogger The Other Robot October 23, 2016 10:10 PM  

If the American people watch a US Aircraft Carrier burn and sink on CNN/FOX News, it could really put a damper on our desire to fight, particularly since the war will be controversial to begin with.

Do you really think the Clinton News Network or Fox would show that?

What sunken carrier? We never had such a carrier!

Blogger DrAndroSF October 23, 2016 10:15 PM  

When I read WR Mead's exculpatory rambling, I think of all the other White people who can see that Obama's problem --like so many of his kind-- is a Dunning-Kruger lack of intellect combined with narcissism and an intent of malice but cannot bring themselves to say these transgressive truths out loud because of his sacred color, so they fall into reaction formation and sound like acolytes instead.

Blogger SciVo October 23, 2016 10:16 PM  

@ ZhukovG:

You don't get it. They have so many options. Imagine if they declare a no-fly zone over the Ukraine, then we can choose to stop talking about it or start flying over it or look weak. Pick one, and explain it to normies.

Blogger Lazarus October 23, 2016 10:53 PM  

@62

FFS

DISPROVE

dammit

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 23, 2016 10:59 PM  

"Either Mead is incredibly stupid, or, as with Obama, we need to question whether..."

Mead is a classic soft-handed bien-pensant, a guy who has never been punched in the face. That is what informs his world view, at bottom. As the old adage goes, Never trust a man who has never been punched in the face. Or as the other adage goes, Never trust a man who's never backed a horse in anger in his life.

Blogger The Other Robot October 23, 2016 11:04 PM  

@68: Well, that would be one way to find out how good those S400s are.

Blogger ZhukovG October 23, 2016 11:21 PM  

@SciVo: Oh, I get it. I will presume you know what you're talking about and when you said, "no-fly zone over the Ukraine", what you meant was 'no-fly zone over the Ukraine as part of a general blockade of Transnistria'. That would indeed provoke a Russian response, but one that we would have difficulty in countering.

Always remember, "War is the continuation of politics by other means". We will be looking for a quick political payoff that:

1. Costs as few American body bags (the regime cares nothing for lives) as possible.
2. Demonstrates US Imperial domination of Russia on a chosen field of conflict.
3. Quickly elevates political resistance to the conflict among the Russian people.

If possible we should want to avoid beginning the conflict by striking directly at the Russian homeland or at a former Soviet Republic as this is likely to inflame Russian patriotism. Also striking that close to the Russian heartland puts a greater logistical burden on us, while making it significantly easier for Russia.

Striking at Syria is a much better choice because it is near the end of Russia effective force projection range. In the atmosphere of a US attack the logistical situation in Syria would be nigh impossible for Russia. Meanwhile we could easily bring overwhelming force to bear and would have little difficulty supplying it.

Of course with Hillary as CinC who knows what kind of stupidity we'll engage in.


Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 23, 2016 11:39 PM  

As the old adage goes, Never trust a man who has never been punched in the face. Or as the other adage goes, Never trust a man who's never backed a horse in anger in his life.

I get the first one, since I've been punched in the face. But I don't understand the latter. Which I guess means you shouldn't trust me?

Blogger James Dixon October 23, 2016 11:46 PM  

> And that is a war that a USA saddled with the incompetent and unwell Hillary Clinton as Commander-in-Chief will almost certainly lose.

If they nuked NYC, DC, Chicago, and LA; that might be a loss the country could live with.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 23, 2016 11:54 PM  

I will presume you know what you're talking about

Which is worse: that I don't know what I'm talking about, or that you don't? I make a jest about the Russians making a no-fly zone over the Ukraine, and you analyze what would happen if we did.

I guess that's okay because I've been drinking all day, so maybe you're drunk?

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 24, 2016 12:05 AM  

"But I don't understand the latter. Which I guess means you shouldn't trust me?"

Well, you should never trust anybody on the internet, right?

I'd be happy to explain the adage, but it would be better if somebody else gave it a go, just to prove it's commonly understood and I'm not a lunatic. But if nobody volunteers, then.... maybe I AM a lunatic (SINISTER GIGGLE).

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 24, 2016 1:09 AM  

Ha! Well, I'm sure that I like you better than our downtown lunatics, who mutter to themselves and/or loudly cuss. So I won't mind if you go ahead and explain your own adage.

Anonymous RabidRatel October 24, 2016 1:16 AM  

Noah B wrote:@20 Putin 2020!

There are some crazy birther conspiracy theorists who insist that Putin was born in Russia, but he was actually born in Indiana. Totally eligible to be president.


You made my day! Thanks a million!

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 24, 2016 2:27 AM  

Mead, from the article:

"[Hillary] will need, and she will deserve, the support of patriotic Americans in both political parties as she undertakes this necessary mission."

Hillary deserves nothing, except prison. Nothing. Should she win the White House, she will never at any time have one iota of this patriot's support.

Is this Mead's game here? He's setting up the scenario once again where we have a neutered and laughable opposition party that just rubber stamps the leftist agenda. Forget that.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 24, 2016 3:08 AM  

weka wrote:@51. I do recall that post, Col. My though is that there have been too many shit tests -- marching in heels, pink uniforms etc -- that have weeded out the warriors, or are weeding out the warriors.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/10/23/yoga-pants-parade-happens/QmHlXqmxuSBYTJDmvwJnLO/story.html

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/10/23/photos-from-yoga-pants-parade-rhode-island/EayUR1GOIpTDmXiM7AwtNO/story.html?p1=Article_Related_Box_Article

it snowballed into a “Yoga Pants Parade” Sunday afternoon with hundreds of people walking past the letter writer’s house — and a few death threats, according to the author, who said he had only intended satire.

“To all yoga pant wearers, I struggle with my own physicality as I age,” wrote Alan Sorrentino, 63, in the letter published by the Barrington Times last week. “I don’t want to struggle with yours.”

The letter, which said adult women wearing yoga pants in public was comparable to men wearing Speedos to the grocery store, went viral. The backlash was immediate, passionate, and international.

Anonymous Dyskord October 24, 2016 3:39 AM  

@80 the dude is spot on, but its his own fault for offending the privileged victim class.
He did inspire me to write an open letter of my own. I will describe how I'm offended by cute topless blondes who are slutty. I'll even post my address to make it easier for the young women to find my house. heck I'll arrange refreshments. Now to start writing.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 24, 2016 4:45 AM  

Bob, we will have the potential for a bunch of officers and other ranks not following orders. And the Hildebeest will not know in advance who will and who won't, thus making the armed forces much less useful to her. Conversely, if everyone resigned who was not a lefty - and something around 10%, possibly these days 20%, of the armed forces are more or less liberal, then she has a DoD that is politically reliable for her. The advantages of this, to us, continue to elude me.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 24, 2016 4:49 AM  

Lazarus, you may need to work on your grasp of words like clear and crisis, while noting that your definitions of clear and crisis may not be the same as theirs.

Blogger Stilicho October 24, 2016 5:26 AM  

She came, she saw, America died...

Blogger Cecelia K October 24, 2016 5:28 AM  

This site is giving away free Donald Trump tshirts as long as you order before Nov. 8th. (Or until they run out) http://adf.ly/1f3Gt3 Just fyi.

Blogger G-S. October 24, 2016 5:30 AM  

Obama will only be president for about 80 more days. He didn't take away all the guns, terrorists didn't destroy America, or put it in depression. As much as Trump wants it to be a disaster, America is in pretty good shape Obama actually is going out with +55 and maybe 60% approval by mid-January. ISIS is on the run in Mosul and his 3rd term is materializing through Clinton. Much of this is because of the alt-right.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 24, 2016 5:33 AM  

Col. Tom,
i am one those rednecks that you thought needed to be culled not to long ago.
What happened , and why in blue hell should I believe a damn word you say now ?

Anonymous Discard October 24, 2016 5:33 AM  

If Putin is available, I may have to revise my plans for the 8th.

Anonymous Discard October 24, 2016 5:38 AM  

86. G-S: The Alt-Right is responsible for Obama having a +55 approval rating and for ISIS leaving Mosul? You're an idiot. Your paymasters will be wanting their money back.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 24, 2016 5:43 AM  

You gotta watch them god-damned yankees, They will lie to your ass when the truth would do just as well. Tell me I am lying.
You can't.

Blogger Bob Loblaw October 24, 2016 5:54 AM  

And they used to call Bush the cowboy.

Turns out Obama is the crooked saloon keeper, and Hillary the town drunk. As Reynolds would say, we're in the very best of hands.

Blogger Bob Loblaw October 24, 2016 6:06 AM  

They won't break with DC until there's a fairly clear constitutional crisis, that cannot be looked at any other way. Simple election of the Hildebeest, while fraught with a future crisis, is not that crisis, itself.

That's my read on the situation exactly. In an of itself Hillary's election won't change anything. If she tries to disband Congress or something else along those lines... different story.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 24, 2016 6:21 AM  

Us hard headed rednecks gotta go, ammirite, Colonel Tom?
Why have you all of a sudden changed your mind on the shit that is going down, and switched sides all of a sudden, Tom ? How can can we trust you, Colonel ?
The answer is clear, we cant and we wont.
Go fuck your yankee ass, Tommy boy. We ain't playin', hoss.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 24, 2016 6:42 AM  

Tommy boy.
I don't waver,son . I say what I mean and I damn sure mean what
I say. You are a super duper bad ass (supposed, I doubt it.) Act like it.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 24, 2016 6:48 AM  

Be a human bean, bee-otch.

Blogger exfarmkid October 24, 2016 7:13 AM  

jOHN MOSBY .... take a few deep breaths and relax. It's too early for this.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 24, 2016 8:46 AM  

Remus, you're still an idiot and the number one exemplar of why the Confederacy lost. You're also a fucking thief of honor by (lack of virtue) of stealing the name of a real man. So fuck off and go molest some little boys, that being about your speed.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 24, 2016 8:47 AM  

Oh, and I don't really give a flying Philadelphia fuck what you believe, Remus, since you live in a fantasy world where truth finds no place.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 24, 2016 8:49 AM  

Remus, you're still an idiot and the number one exemplar of why the Confederacy lost. You're also a fucking thief of honor by (lack of virtue) of stealing the name of a real man. So fuck off and go molest some little boys, that being about your speed.

Anonymous ZhukovG October 24, 2016 9:55 AM  

What in the nine hells set that off?

Blogger The Other Robot October 24, 2016 9:56 AM  

It seems like a high risk strategy for the Russians to send that task force with their only carrier to the Med.

What could they be thinking?

Anonymous fop October 24, 2016 10:46 AM  

Mead. Sounds like a nice white anglo saxon protestant fellow.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 24, 2016 10:46 AM  

My guess would be that Remus got rejected by his boyfriend so is in a bad mood.

Anonymous CoinKam October 24, 2016 2:44 PM  

''If there is not a Trumpslide on November 8th,''

Isn't a regular electoral victory of somewhere between 270 and 320 electoral votes enough to get Trump elected and a war with Russia avoided?

Or are you including potential voter fraud and electoral fraud on levels so big that only a Trumpslide would be able to push through that?

Blogger Roger G2 October 25, 2016 4:04 AM  

I swear, I so want to see the look on Mead's face if or when he reads "he's either incredibly stupid, or....".
It would be simply priceless. If he read how VD has connected the dots of the last 8 years, he'd presumably get defensive, but I have to believe it would give him pause as he reflects on his current affairs predictions and observations being possibly wrongheaded, ass-backward ignorance-and worse, the fact that it's being pointed out by everyone's favorite arch-nemesis.
Good times.

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