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Wednesday, October 05, 2016

If only there was a solution

Whatever are we going to do about this army of Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police who are occupied with memory-holing history?
Last week, you could still find on Wikipedia two of Ms. Machado’s more recent misadventures:

In 2005, Machado was engaged to baseball star Bobby Abreu. During their engagement she was on the Spanish reality show ‘La Granja’ where she was filmed on camera having sex with another member of the show. Shortly after the video surfaced Abreu ended their engagement.

On June 25, 2008, Machado gave birth to her daughter, Dinorah Valentina. She issued a statement that the father of Dinorah was her best friend Mexican businessman Rafael Hernandez Linares after Mexican news sources, quoting the Attorney General, reported that the father was Gerardo Álvarez Vázquez, a drug lord.

But mentions of these imbroglios have since been memory holed on Wikipedia. Editors have offered bizarre excuses for deleting the most interesting information about Hillary’s heroine, such as that the diva is not a “public figure,” an assertion that would surely wound the actress more deeply than allegations that she’s a gangster’s moll.

That points out an answer to one of the more obvious questions about the plausibility of Orwell’s 1984: How can they afford that? Is it really fiscally feasible even for a totalitarian government to employ an army of salaried Winston Smiths to alter history?

Yet it’s naive to imagine that a government would have to pay people to do this kind of thing. In the current year, we now know that plenty of people would join the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police for free.
How very unfortunate. Now, thanks to Wikipedia's ever-efficient thought police, no one will ever know the truth about Ms Machado. It's not as if there is anything we can do about it, right?

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69 Comments:

Anonymous Dave October 05, 2016 10:03 AM  

Hmmm, if only there was an alternative...

Anonymous ODG October 05, 2016 10:04 AM  

Excellent! The Infogalactic shirt is on my purchase list. Spreading the word!

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 05, 2016 10:07 AM  

Nice! This is great! And I love the name! I always hate clicking on any Wikipedia page anymore since I've learned what censor-loving fascists they are. Glad there is going to be an alternative. :)

Anonymous Dave October 05, 2016 10:14 AM  

In 2005, Machado was engaged to baseball star Bobby Abreu.

Heh, Bobby Abreu was a very good hitter, surprised he dropped his average by hittin' that. Watched him for years as a Philly; he kept his residence in NYC while he was a Philly so not like he didn't have plenty of options.

Blogger VD October 05, 2016 10:16 AM  

The public announcement is next Monday, but I thought the Ilk might like a little advance notice. Search and image-loading will speed up considerably by then.

Blogger YIH October 05, 2016 10:21 AM  

I like the name. Surprised no mention of her pr0nz ''career''. There really isn't much of it, after Trump brought it up, I pasted her name into a few pr0n video sites. Looks like she had a boob job.

Blogger SemiSpook37 October 05, 2016 10:28 AM  

Is there going to be an option on pages for flash memes? I'm talking specifically about occurrences that happen in culture (be it art, sports, politics, etc.) that are notable for being unexpected or just naturally humorous (think along the lines of someone changing the ownership on Gawker's wiki page from "GM/Univision" to "Hulk Hogan").

The Wiki Thought Police are notorious for removing (even from edit history) a lot of those entries.

Blogger otwelmr October 05, 2016 10:30 AM  

Yay. I've been wondering when this would happen but am never available for any of the brainstorm sessions.

Anonymous Dave October 05, 2016 10:37 AM  

Vox, does any of the T-shirt revenue go to support the cause? I know there are other ways to donate, just curious.

Blogger VD October 05, 2016 10:37 AM  

Is there going to be an option on pages for flash memes?

Explain. What do you mean and what sort of mechanism do you recommend. I have no conceptual problem with it, but the devil is often in the details.

Blogger VFM #407 October 05, 2016 10:39 AM  

Maniacal laugh.

http://sli.mg/sLf3mu

Anonymous ODG October 05, 2016 10:42 AM  

The public announcement is next Monday...
Should we hold off on spreading the word until then?

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 05, 2016 10:45 AM  

Whores are more ethical than SJWs. True story.

Blogger VD October 05, 2016 10:48 AM  

Should we hold off on spreading the word until then?

Yeah. What would be useful now is collecting the emails of every journalist who has ever written about Wikipedia, particularly in a negative manner, and sending me the list.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 05, 2016 10:54 AM  

Maniacal laugh...Maniacal laugh...

Anonymous Mr. Rational October 05, 2016 11:07 AM  

I see you pulled the copy fairly recently; I checked one of the pages I updated and my mods were there.

Can't wait for the speed improvement.

Blogger Nick S October 05, 2016 11:15 AM  

Fantastic! I hope there are plans to provide non-intrusive ad slots for Brave Browser. I'll add Infogalactic to my Brave Payments list.

Anonymous Geranon October 05, 2016 11:17 AM  

Read through the security system against a SJW takeover and it sounds quite interesting. Whatever holes are in it, I'm confident the game developer mindset will fix them quite fast.

Awesome to read about bringing Brave, Gap and corporations abroad. For Wikipedia it smells like big trouble. And not just for Wikipedia, the connections with Gap and Brave have a nice pull effect. Very well done guys.

Blogger Thucydides October 05, 2016 11:42 AM  

Wow, Infogalactic, Brave, Gab.ai....waiting to see what other arrows are in the quiver.

Longer term threat is the impending handover of management of the Internet to the UN. There may have to be a concerted effort to create workarounds like Mesh infrastructure to bypass higher level attacks (what will you be able to do if domain names, naming conventions or DNS suddenly are unavailable or under attack by UN Kleptocrats?

Worth some consideration.

Blogger VD October 05, 2016 11:49 AM  

Can't wait for the speed improvement.

That was very polite....

Fantastic! I hope there are plans to provide non-intrusive ad slots for Brave Browser.

We will be actively cooperating with Brave.

Read through the security system against a SJW takeover and it sounds quite interesting. Whatever holes are in it, I'm confident the game developer mindset will fix them quite fast.

That's why we won't be permitting open editing until Phase Three. We've already had someone try to brute force their way into editing the Gab page, which was probably @cpb.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 05, 2016 11:59 AM  

Prodigious. I hope you're aware of what this represents to the enemies of civilization.

Anonymous Anonymous-9 October 05, 2016 12:00 PM  

It's been two weeks since I applied for Gab under another, more frequently used email address. I received a response that I was in the queue but nothing since. When I tried to register again a pop up said my email address was already taken. Not sure what to do. I also downloaded Brave and love it. Telling all my friends about it, too.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 05, 2016 12:02 PM  

Love the aesthetic. Hot jets!

Anonymous Somme Bodet October 05, 2016 12:11 PM  

https://infogalactic.com/info/Gamergate_controversy

>The Gamergate controversy centers on the harassment campaign conducted primarily through the use of the Twitter hashtag #GamerGate, revolving around issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture.
>harassment campaign

This might need some work. (Yes, I know work in progress, not officially announced yet, dread ilk involved in more important things, some stuff is just copy pastas of wikipedia, etc. Still funny.)

Blogger Were-Puppy October 05, 2016 12:25 PM  

@20 VD
That's why we won't be permitting open editing until Phase Three.
---

Even a couple months ago I was still finding orphaned artifacts from the SJW assault of the SJWList. It's a good idea to lock it down.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 05, 2016 12:26 PM  

Oh, btw, the site looks great

Anonymous #1037 October 05, 2016 12:30 PM  

@22 at the open Brainstorm on Monday it was discussed that gab invites are often ending up in spam or social folders, especially for Gmail users.

It was also mentioned that about 70k folks are on the wait list and invitations are being sent in batches of about 10k at a time. I don't speak for anyone at gab, but that's what was publicly discussed, so I feel comfortable passing it along.

Blogger Fenris Wulf October 05, 2016 12:38 PM  

Every Alt-Right site should be named after a Beastie Boys song. :D

Anonymous Anonymous-9 October 05, 2016 12:54 PM  

Thanx #1037. My response did not go to my spam folder, and I've checked it since.

Anonymous kfg October 05, 2016 1:03 PM  

"In the current year, we now know that plenty of people would join the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police for free."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh_1966vaIA

Anonymous LastRedoubt October 05, 2016 1:32 PM  

@ Fenris Wulf

Every Alt-Right site should be named after a Beastie Boys song. :D

freakin' runs through my head every time I see "Infogalactic"

Catchy site name, it is.

Blogger B.J. October 05, 2016 1:41 PM  

How do you plan to differentiate yourselves from Conservapedia and Rationalwiki, i.e. avoid the reputation as another bunch of cranks and kooks?

Blogger SirHamster October 05, 2016 1:45 PM  

B.J. wrote:How do you plan to differentiate yourselves from Conservapedia and Rationalwiki, i.e. avoid the reputation as another bunch of cranks and kooks?

By not being cranks and kooks.

By not being biased in the opposite direction of Wikipedia.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 05, 2016 1:47 PM  

B.J. wrote:How do you plan to differentiate yourselves from Wikipedia, i.e. avoid the reputation as another bunch of cranks and kooks?

fify.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 05, 2016 1:57 PM  

B.J. wrote:How do you plan to differentiate yourselves from Conservapedia and Rationalwiki, i.e. avoid the reputation as another bunch of cranks and kooks?

Are you aware that this reputation is the result of a CIA operation to tar political opposition as kooks? If this encyclopedia is opposed to globalism and effective, it will be described as kooky, full stop.

Blogger Silent Cal October 05, 2016 2:04 PM  

I like the article on Christopher Columbus and the one the 30th President of the United States.

Anonymous Fran October 05, 2016 2:04 PM  

@30
Couldn't help notice the video got 26k up votes and 872k down votes...Hahaha. I guess people are on to their rat fink scheme.

Blogger VD October 05, 2016 2:10 PM  

How do you plan to differentiate yourselves from Conservapedia and Rationalwiki, i.e. avoid the reputation as another bunch of cranks and kooks?

By providing the user with the ability to see the perspective he chooses rather than imposing any one particular perspective on him. Unlike Wikipedia, Conservapedia, and RationalWiki, we won't play thought police. This is an entirely new paradigm.

Read the Roadmap.

Anonymous The Right Villainous John Hall October 05, 2016 2:25 PM  

An encyclopedia that "is opposed to globalism" would just be another useless echo chamber. What we need is a factual encyclopedia that is free of globalist influence, because that is a useful tool against globalism.

OpenID simplytimothy October 05, 2016 2:29 PM  

By providing the user with the ability to see the perspective he chooses rather than imposing any one particular perspective on him. Unlike Wikipedia, Conservapedia, and RationalWiki, we won't play thought police. This is an entirely new paradigm.

This is fun. I am looking forward to the names you give the perspectives.


Anonymous LastRedoubt October 05, 2016 2:33 PM  

@37 Fran

aaaaanddd.... spot on reply/parody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK4QtiPhTRQ

Blogger Jerry27 October 05, 2016 2:53 PM  

dcdave has a file he calls Wikipedia’s Greatest Misses. There is always room for additions.

http://www.dcdave.com/article5/150806.htm

thanks,
Jerry

Blogger Shimshon October 05, 2016 3:08 PM  

The Infogalactic roadmap sounds impressive. Looking forward to much gnashing of teeth on the announcement. Will Milo, Cernovich, or others be covering it?

Blogger Fenris Wulf October 05, 2016 3:15 PM  

Deplorapedia: The Encyclopedia of Truthcrime

Clownbook: The Social Network for Evil Clowns

Screee: Messaging for the Avian Mind oh look a shiny thing!

WeTube: Your Content Will Be Assimilated

Gugel: #1 Search Engine for Images of Pointy Medieval Hats, Shopping for Pointy Medieval Hats, Video of Pointy Medieval Hats, News About Pointy Medieval Hats, and Interesting Facts about Pointy Medieval Hats

This is why I'm not allowed to name things.

OpenID simplytimothy October 05, 2016 3:15 PM  

I have been thinking about the converged areas we can disconverge.

Charities have been converged.
Kickstarter could replace them.
Yet, I have read the kickstarter has been converged.

You up on a kickstarter replacement? I can code and manage a project that size, I just need a business dweeb to do the dweeb thinking.

Blogger B.J. October 05, 2016 3:37 PM  

VD wrote:How do you plan to differentiate yourselves from Conservapedia and Rationalwiki, i.e. avoid the reputation as another bunch of cranks and kooks?

By providing the user with the ability to see the perspective he chooses rather than imposing any one particular perspective on him. Unlike Wikipedia, Conservapedia, and RationalWiki, we won't play thought police. This is an entirely new paradigm.

Read the Roadmap.


I see, preference filtering. Very interesting. Looking forward to the future of this project.

Blogger Cloudswrest October 05, 2016 4:01 PM  

I see in the account request form you ask for one's real name. Is this something that is then publicly available?

Blogger SemiSpook37 October 05, 2016 4:08 PM  

VD wrote:Explain. What do you mean and what sort of mechanism do you recommend. I have no conceptual problem with it, but the devil is often in the details.

It's something I may have to look into. Basically, much like what happens on a notable Wiki page, you get folks that are snarky who get in on the page and modify something (be it in the attribute box or some other anecdote) based on a freak occurrence or some other notable event (i.e. Hulk Hogan "owns" Gawker, observation made during last night's VP debate, etc.).

Point is, unlike the Wiki Thought Police, you you don't get rid of the content. If it's particularly amusing (legitimately speaking, getting rid of active trolling should always be acceptable), such content should be moved after a certain period of time (say 48 hours) into a separate section entitled "Memes" or something like that, along with a quick blurb as to why it was notable.

It's probably something that's likely way too complicated to try to enact, but it would be a fun thing to try and accomplish. I'm just not sure where to start.

Anonymous Ironsides October 05, 2016 4:32 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:B.J. wrote:How do you plan to differentiate yourselves from Conservapedia and Rationalwiki, i.e. avoid the reputation as another bunch of cranks and kooks?

Are you aware that this reputation is the result of a CIA operation to tar political opposition as kooks? If this encyclopedia is opposed to globalism and effective, it will be described as kooky, full stop.


Rationwiki is a full-stop converged pro-homosexual groid-worshipping atheist Christian-hating straight-hating white-hating (they openly say "yes, whites will go extinct soon -- so what?" -- I'm not joking) SJW shriekfest.

I kind of doubt that people view it as kooky because the CIA says so, but rather because it IS kooky. In a frothing-at-the-mouth, hate-filled "die Whitey!" SJW fashion, too.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart October 05, 2016 4:32 PM  

Excellent! I've seen the T shirt shop earlier and wondered, whatever tf is infogalactic? Now I'll order the shirt. Epic.

Anonymous Ironsides October 05, 2016 4:34 PM  

*Rationalwiki. Dammit.

Blogger weka October 05, 2016 5:19 PM  

Rationwiki is a full-stop converged pro-homosexual groid-worshipping atheist Christian-hating straight-hating white-hating (they openly say "yes, whites will go extinct soon -- so what?" -- I'm not joking) SJW shriekfest.

I kind of doubt that people view it as kooky because the CIA says so, but rather because it IS kooky. In a frothing-at-the-mouth, hate-filled "die Whitey!" SJW fashion, too.


That is why it is so funny.

On a more serious note, can someone who is an expert on statistics, particularly non parametric stats and mixed models, check the pages in Wiki, correct and import them?

I have to refer to them to get context, because I don't do stats every day, and the results you get will depend on the model... which better fit the data you have, particulary when considering how to impute missing data.

I have seen those who have too much confidence in STATA or (worse) SPSS publish nonsense, claiming significance.

Anonymous Dave October 05, 2016 5:36 PM  

Ok I'm officially suspicious of the random page generator...a Jesus Jones page on the 3rd try?

Blogger Brian Niemeier October 05, 2016 5:36 PM  

His/he/him used as generic pronouns on the main page. It is like hearing Wagner after years of being forced to listen to Taylor Swift.

Blogger dienw October 05, 2016 5:46 PM  

Infogalactic's pages are interlinked in order to connect the user to related pages with additional information, and are categorized in a variety of ways

Excellent. Someone is old enough to remember the old library card catalogs.

Blogger Lovekraft October 05, 2016 5:52 PM  

I went to the Infogalactic t-shirt link and there's no option for shipping to Canada.

Blogger Thucydides October 05, 2016 6:09 PM  

Pity there is no way to identify and "out" Wikipedia's auxiliary thought police volunteers. Employers should be concerned if their hires or potential hires are fast and loose with the truth.

What if they are equally fast an loose with the cash, sales reports or other data vital to the running of the organization?

Anonymous Dave October 05, 2016 6:10 PM  

@Lovekraft

Send them an email: cryptofashion at gmail dot com

Anonymous Dave October 05, 2016 6:43 PM  

That points out an answer to one of the more obvious questions about the plausibility of Orwell’s 1984: How can they afford that? Is it really fiscally feasible even for a totalitarian government to employ an army of salaried Winston Smiths to alter history?

The feds spend money on anything they deem important, they just haven't got around to funding an army of revisionist historians. From today... http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/05/obama-administation-hires-hundreds-pr-staffers-500-million-year/

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) said that the administration added 667 PR staffers between 2008 and 2011 to bring the staffing total to 5,238; the number decreased since then, but 5,100 staffers remained in the administration in 2014, The Washington Times reported.

The GAO says these figures do not include the $100 million spent on private PR consultants to bolster the government’s PR efforts.

The government spent $800 million on contracts with outside advertising firms in 2015 to promote the administration’s policies, The Washington Times reported.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 05, 2016 6:44 PM  

Thucydides wrote:What if they are equally fast an loose with the cash, sales reports or other data vital to the running of the organization?

There is information out there on that. It's sort of like donating to The Red Cross.

Anonymous 6184 October 05, 2016 7:38 PM  

Saw some "Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex and dvipng (or dvips + gs + convert)): B"

On some pages with equations,like the article on Lorentz Transformations and the page for tachyonic antitelephone.

Blogger Matamoros October 05, 2016 8:31 PM  

Just tripped over this book, which seems to tie a lot together nicely:

Unholy Alliance: The Agenda Iran, Russia, and Jihadists Share for Conquering the World

https://www.amazon.com/Unholy-Alliance-Agenda-Jihadists-Conquering/dp/1501141023

Anonymous Icicle October 05, 2016 8:32 PM  

The feds spend money on anything they deem important, they just haven't got around to funding an army of revisionist historians.

Clarence Thomas was just left out of an African-American history exhibit at the Smithsonian.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/03/clarence-thomas-is-conspicuously-absent-in-the-new-black-history-smithsonian/


Is the Smithsonian converged?

Blogger VD October 05, 2016 8:38 PM  

I see in the account request form you ask for one's real name. Is this something that is then publicly available?

We're going to get rid of that. We will have separate verification for verified accounts.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 05, 2016 10:38 PM  

Matamoros wrote:Just tripped over this book, which seems to tie a lot together nicely:

Unholy Alliance: The Agenda Iran, Russia, and Jihadists Share for Conquering the World


Subtitle; "Why Israel's Opponents Are All Literally Hitler."

Anonymous Intermediate Shitlord October 05, 2016 10:54 PM  

The name "infogalactic" kind of sucks tbh fam. While it sounds pretty cool it's not immediately obvious that it's an encyclopedia the way Wikipedia is.

Wikipedia sounds like an encyclopedia, Infogalactic sounds like something from scifi. If the goal is to get normies to move over from Wikipedia I think a less skiffy name might work better.

OTOH this could help to rope in nerds, who tbh are probably the lifeblood of a project like this. Who else is going to spend hours writing encyclopedia articles on obscure topics for free, but highly intelligent autists? SJWs, that's who, but thankfully you're entryist wise and the socjus wieners will be ruthlessly purged. Hopefully only the actual nerds will remain.

So I can see why you chose 'Infogalactic'. Besides Starlords and Galaxians are way cooler than admins and editors. "Planetary Knowledge Core" is boss.

Good luck with the project at any rate, the multi-level article system sounds like a good way of containing spin, only trial and error will tell.

Blogger Lazarus October 05, 2016 10:55 PM  

That points out an answer to one of the more obvious questions about the plausibility of Orwell’s 1984: How can they afford that? Is it really fiscally feasible even for a totalitarian government to employ an army of salaried Winston Smiths to alter history?

World debt is now 152 Trillion, twice the world economy. With that kind of system, anyone can afford anything.

I am gettin' me a Limited Edition Bugatti Veyron. Screw the GMC Sonora.

Blogger The Other Robot October 06, 2016 12:43 AM  

I see in the account request form you ask for one's real name. Is this something that is then publicly available?

It probably cant tell that DogFacedJoe is not your real name.

Blogger The Other Robot October 06, 2016 12:47 AM  

Wait. Did the Wikipedia page ever say this:

It is also claimed that during the show she made appreciative references to Fernando Acaso's penis.

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