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Wednesday, October 26, 2016

Let them laugh

Remember when SJWs were laughing about how "Opera Vita Aeterna" finished behind No Award in the 2014 Hugo Awards? Then remember the shock and horror they expressed when the nominations for the 2015 awards were announced?

Let them laugh about Infogalactic now. Let them scoff and sneer, as is their usual wont. Not only is everything going according to plan, but the plan has been accelerated, we have more dev volunteers than were expected, after 16 days we are just three short of the 100 subscribers we hoped would sign up in the first three months, and we're already seeing third-party developers wanting to integrate with us. By this time next week, we should have add-on extensions for Firefox, Chrome, and Opera that will allow you to make Infogalactic your default search engine to go with the current redirect extensions.

It was not surprising to see our old pal Pedophil didn't pass up the chance to strike the customary SJW pose.

Phil Sandifer ‏@PhilSandifer Oct 24
Seriously, even for Vox Day, the Dumpster Fire that Walks Like a Man, Infogalactic is an amateur hour shitwreck.

If you had any doubt that Phil is totally clueless with regards to technology before, now you have confirmation. No one who knows anything about Wikipedia or MediaWiki would say we don't know what we're doing. One might not concur entirely with our priorities, or understand our objectives, but the combination of what we've accomplished to date, combined with the Roadmap, is sufficient to indicate that we are neither entirely incompetent nor amateur developers.

As it happens, we know the highest levels at Wikipedia are paying close attention to what we're doing because they've already been in contact with us. I would describe their attitude as half-confused, half-concerned. They know they can't do what we're already in the process of doing, nor do they have a good grasp of why we're doing it in the first place. So, don't be surprised if, in the long run, they end up using our technology.

Phil Sandifer ‏@PhilSandifer Oct 24
But if you want a detailed plot summary for an unreleased video game, well, someone definitely added that today.

And he thinks that is a bad thing? That is exactly the sort of thing I'd hoped to see Galaxians putting on Infogalactic. We're not the Notable Knowledge From Sources Our Thought Police Deem Reliable Core, we're the Planetary Knowledge Core.

Let them laugh. It will make their dawning horror all the more satisfying when Phase Three arrives.


UPDATE: Should have mentioned this: Safari users now have an extension that will redirect Wikipedia links to Infogalactic. Download it here. I am also informed that extensions adding Infogalactic as a default search engine option will be available next week.


UPDATE: One of the VFM explains why it is time to stick a fork in Wikipedia and why he is supporting Infogalactic:
Our Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil is leading the way showing those of us who are awake, that we don't have to take the continued SJW convergence of our institutions, social media and other mediums of thoughts and expressions lying down...that we CAN actually do something to fight back.

SJW's converged Science Fiction? Our Dark Lord went and co-founded his own damn publishing house and is now producing literary works with themes and narratives that have been largely suppressed by the traditional publishing houses seeking to control the narrative.

Alt-Right folks getting shadow-banned or outright banned on Twitter? He's one of the leading users and supporter for Gab, a new social media platform alternative, which unlike Twitter, is dedicated to upholding real free speech for it's participants.

While leading thousands on an exodus from an SJW converged mainstream social media platform and founding a successful publishing house of best-selling, politically incorrect literature are both major accomplishments by our Dark Lord in the 21st Century culture wars in our Brave New World Order, it his latest act of counter-insurgency that I hope grows into his most successful venture to date.

It is the badly needed and long overdue answer to the SJWs attempted control of the narrative by manufacturing consensus with heavy handed and persistent  censorship and suppression of politically incorrect topics on Wikipedia.

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73 Comments:

Anonymous Icicle October 26, 2016 3:57 AM  

We're not the Notable Knowledge From Sources Our Thought Police Deem Reliable Core, we're the Planetary Knowledge Core.

That was Wikipedia's mad dream back in 2001-2004. It is sad they abandoned it.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2016 4:22 AM  

Pedophil, one of the archetypal faces etched on my brain when I'm doing three minutes on the punch bag.

Blogger RmaxGenactivePUA Mgtow October 26, 2016 4:47 AM  

This is all about taking tech & social media out of the hands of the jews & sun worshipping scum, the vatican.

It's not enough to have a haven for the alt right, we need platforms which outcompete & makes their platforms obsolete & outdated.

Corrupt monolith's have no agility, they have no idea how to compete, they are incompetent which is why they are corrupt in the first place.

To destroy a hulking bloating government, or a bloated corporation, all you have to do is provide competing service's better then the government & watch the bloated bureaucracies crumble.

They have no idea how to compete.

Create competing distribution channels.

Create your own food distribution system, your own energy supply chain, your own fuel supply chain, & you starve the lifeblood of government.

Every penny you spend in a supermarket is used to wage cultural wars against you. Stop funding wars against you & create your own food supply system.

Starve the beasts & barbarians which rage against you, by diverting the funds back into your white community's. Create your own community food supply system, your own pooled energy, your own fuel system.

Every penny you spend & where you spend it has serious repercussions & consequences.

Wake up from the slumber of convenience & consumerism, & learn to make the world, your community's in your image.

Fund your white community's, build a warchest, arm your community, starve the government & marxist parasites of funds.

That is how you win a war of logistics.

Anonymous Seorae October 26, 2016 4:47 AM  

I was the skeptic/critic on File770 quoted by you and cited by Rolf Nelson (and my reception there helped me realize the truth of some of what you have said).

There are some legitimate criticisms of your work.

Notably, is it a good thing to develop even factual hugboxes (which seems to be the ultimate goal of InfoGalactic)?

Looking at the media in my own country, and that of the US, I am forced to accept that this is broadly a fait accompli.

Certainly Wikipedia is a disaster in that vein.

I therefore cannot oppose you on philosophical grounds.

A second more trivial point. You still are using some media Wiki stuff if you drill deep enough. You should fix that before you're barred. Have your web person look for outgoing fetches for simplicity.

I remain skeptical of your ability to deliver on a contextual-rational sliding mode of reading. (That is badly worded; sorry English is not my native tongue).

I am no SJW as I remotely understand the term. I respect and admire your team's achievements. My initial assessment of 50/50 in delivering further features is raised to 75% likely.

I reluctantly now hope your team succeeds. The development of information-echo-bubbles is sad, but is already well underway. You at least offer a rational approach.

Anonymous Takin' a Look October 26, 2016 5:07 AM  

@ Seorae

It can't be helped. We are returning to tribalist identities. Better that we have our own yellow presses than continue to listen to the worthless lies of the (((globalist lugenpresse))). The Jews, Leftists, cucks etc all in favor of the NWO have no one but themselves to blame.

Blogger Servant of the Chief October 26, 2016 5:12 AM  

Just subscribed and set the extension to automatically have wikilinks direct me to Infogalactic. Feels good to contribute to the demise of a monolith.

Blogger exfarmkid October 26, 2016 6:18 AM  

Heh. Palemoon just let me add infogalactic to my search engine list. Didn't blow anything up, either.

Just FYI.

Blogger Balázs Varga October 26, 2016 6:27 AM  

So far as I see it this is a more factual if shorter version of wikipedia which states only the surest facts.

This looks good but you need to somehow make it more known to the common public.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 26, 2016 6:35 AM  

Seorae wrote:
Notably, is it a good thing to develop even factual hugboxes (which seems to be the ultimate goal of InfoGalactic)?


At least InfoGalactic will allow you to see the other side's hugbox at the click of a button. Wikipedia just kills any opposing view points.

Blogger IreneAthena October 26, 2016 6:47 AM  

I skimmed the Vaccination, Vaccination Controversy, Jesus and Holocaust articles. I wasn't startled by any of the material presented as factual. It will be interesting to see how the Infogalactic contributions of anti-vaxxers and Holocaust-deniers might be handled.

Blogger VD October 26, 2016 7:02 AM  

There are some legitimate criticisms of your work.

Agreed. I would merely point out that we have barely begun.

Notably, is it a good thing to develop even factual hugboxes (which seems to be the ultimate goal of InfoGalactic)?

I consider the philosophical question posed to be irrelevant. If people want hugboxes, they can have their hugbox. No one will be forced to remain within a hugbox. What we are giving people is the freedom to see THEIR perspective rather than MY perspective, YOUR perspective, or the strictly enforced narrative of the 531 thought police of Wikipedia.

You still are using some media Wiki stuff if you drill deep enough. You should fix that before you're barred

Surely you aren't suggesting that they would be less than partial and violate the terms of their licensed content! Anyhow, we're working on that. It's a three-stage affair.

I remain skeptical of your ability to deliver on a contextual-rational sliding mode of reading.

I expect most intelligent, technologically-adept observers are. But I'm a better game designer than most people realize. We can, and will, deliver it. And it will be simpler and more straightforward than most people are imagining.

I respect and admire your team's achievements. My initial assessment of 50/50 in delivering further features is raised to 75% likely.

I am delighted to hear that we've managed to increase our odds, in your view, in just two weeks. As you've correctly ascertained, it's more my team than me. Just as with Castalia, my primary goal in forming a team is always to be the least accomplished, lowest-performing member of it.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 26, 2016 7:06 AM  

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Blogger Basil Makedon October 26, 2016 7:06 AM  

Only idiots see a project like this at t= two weeks (or whatever it is) and compare it dis-favorably with a project at t = fifteen years.

Blogger RobertDWood October 26, 2016 7:14 AM  

Pedophil the Sanballat and his tribe will continue to dance with rage beyond the city as the wall rise before them.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft October 26, 2016 7:15 AM  

@11. Well played. Looking forward to finding myself on one of those teams sometime in the future.

Will be in contact when I have something of note to offer.

Anonymous RebelShoat October 26, 2016 7:18 AM  

we're the Planetary Knowledge Core

Aside from the SJW convergence this is my main gripe about Wikipedia. There is no need to delete things that aren't "notable". Almost everything is notable to some audience.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2016 7:19 AM  

" As you've correctly ascertained, it's more my team than me."

Rifleman is a BMF.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 26, 2016 7:25 AM  

Vox Day, the Dumpster Fire that Walks Like a Man

AAAHHHHH!!! NARATIVE VIOLATION! NARATIVE VIOLATION! NARATIVE VIOLATION!

NATIVE AMERICAN ETHNIC SLUR DETECTED!!

RACIST! RACIST! RAAAAAAAAAAACCCCISSSSST!

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) October 26, 2016 7:28 AM  

Just as with Castalia, my primary goal in forming a team is always to be the least accomplished, lowest-performing member of it.

Could you expand on this in a separate post? I think it would be a helpful post or series of posts.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 26, 2016 7:28 AM  

Aw, Pedophil's just mad his juvenile record has been expunged and none of you phonies at infogalactic has discovered where he's buried his old "treasures" yet. Worse, he can't figure out how to register and create an eponymous entry.


Seriously though, was he banned from wikipedia for posting child porn or something? He grinds a perverse axe against infogalactic, and that sort of projection would make sense.

Blogger Ragin' Dave October 26, 2016 7:32 AM  

Can anyone tell me what Phil Sandifer has done in his life that would elevate him from being just another ignorant Marxist parasite to actual human status?

What has he done other than stir the shitpot in his private echo chamber?

Blogger Nate October 26, 2016 7:37 AM  

"Could you expand on this in a separate post? I think it would be a helpful post or series of posts. "

Its the same philosophy as Henry Ford. Surround yourself with absolute rockstars... give them a few directions and goals... and then stay out of their way while they do what rockstars do.

Blogger Chent October 26, 2016 7:39 AM  

Impressed at Infogalactic. Since Wikipedia is the empire of the evil, this will be Vox' greatest feat.

Blogger Gromm October 26, 2016 8:08 AM  

As a film lover I checked a random movie "Vampyr" and was impressed with the information I found there. How on earth did your crew write so much information on a wide variety of topics already?

Blogger Gromm October 26, 2016 8:13 AM  

Never mind I see that some pages were lifted from Wikipedia. Can you do that?

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable October 26, 2016 8:21 AM  

Can you do that?

Yes. It's called a fork. All open-source projects may be forked.

https://jamesdixon.wordpress.com/forking-protocol-why-when-and-how-to-fork-an-open-source-project/

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 26, 2016 8:43 AM  

Is there an extension for Brave? Did I miss the notification about that? I apologize if this has been asked and answered.

Anonymous Avalanche October 26, 2016 8:45 AM  

@11 "Just as with Castalia, my primary goal in forming a team is always to be the least accomplished, lowest-performing member of it."

Whew. That statement made my eyes widen as I imagined your teams!!! Wowzers!

Anonymous Slammer64 October 26, 2016 8:47 AM  

Add another subscriber to InfoGalatic, and your Chrome plugin works just fine on Vivaldi.

Blogger Shimshon October 26, 2016 8:54 AM  

Regarding the fork, will Infogalactic code be open sourced? I'm just curious here, as I have no problem if the choice is made to keep code proprietary (assuming it's permitted to do so). I can't find anything on DONTPANIC besides the mention on the Roadmap. Is it going to be a complete reimplementation from scratch? Also in PHP?

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 9:11 AM  

For anyone who is doubting Vox's claims, consider the speed of output between:

Infogalactic
Castalia House
Vox R.R. Day

That's right folks, we got a functioning alternative to one of the largest progressive monopolies on the planet faster than we got book 2. And book 2 had a sizable head-start.

Blogger VD October 26, 2016 9:16 AM  

Is there an extension for Brave?

No, there will be no need for one. We're working on direct integration with them.

Blogger VD October 26, 2016 9:18 AM  

Add another subscriber to InfoGalatic, and your Chrome plugin works just fine on Vivaldi.

Thank you very much and welcome to the Burn Unit! And thanks for letting us know. I'll put up a page at Infogalactic about the extensions later today.

Blogger Harsh October 26, 2016 9:18 AM  

Pedophil hasn't offed himself yet? Looks like I just lost twenty bucks.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2016 9:22 AM  

"That's right folks, we got a functioning alternative to one of the largest progressive monopolies on the planet faster than we got book 2. And book 2 had a sizable head-start."

SHOTS FIRED

Anonymous Dave October 26, 2016 9:34 AM  

Servant of the Chief wrote:Just subscribed and set the extension to automatically have wikilinks direct me to Infogalactic. Feels good to contribute to the demise of a monolith.

Slammer64 wrote:Add another subscriber to InfoGalatic, and your Chrome plugin works just fine on Vivaldi.

Been planning to do this for awhile...add another subscriber. The hunnert one? and am waiting for the Brave extension.

Anonymous 204 October 26, 2016 9:36 AM  

Speaking of the extension. My chrome one appears to go to Wikipedia first and then to Infogalactic, or at least the Wikipedia URL shows up in the address bar first.
I don't know if Wikipedia counts that as traffic, but if it does, doesn't that defeat some of the extension's purpose?

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2016 9:39 AM  

> Heh. Palemoon just let me add infogalactic to my search engine list. Didn't blow anything up, either.

I couldn't find any simple way to do this. However, I did find a slightly complicated way which folks may find useful.

Get the Add to Search Bar add-on from https://addons.palemoon.org/extensions/search-tools/add-to-search-bar/ and install it.

Now go to Infogalactic page, right click on their search bar, select Add to Search Bar, and enter the keyword Infogalactic.

You can then remove the Add to Search Bar add-on if you don't want to keep it.

I've tested it and it seems to work. If anyone has problems duplicating the process, please let me know.

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2016 9:42 AM  

> Pedophil hasn't offed himself yet? Looks like I just lost twenty bucks.

Surely they'll give you till after the election before they demand payment?

Anonymous Trimegistus October 26, 2016 10:19 AM  

Okay, dumb user question here: I've looked at several IG pages and compared them to WP pages. I don't see any difference. Where's the non-sycophantic page on Barack Obama, for instance?

Devil's Advocate question (which I'm sure you've already thought of): what's to keep a lefty from making sycophantic edits to the Obama page and then tagging them as conservative?

Blogger Nate October 26, 2016 10:25 AM  

" Where's the non-sycophantic page on Barack Obama, for instance?"

do you know what a wiki is? If Obama's page looks the same its because no one has bothered to edit it.

" what's to keep a lefty from making sycophantic edits to the Obama page and then tagging them as conservative?"

The fact that Vox is a game designer and not a moron. That's not how the slider will work at all. The concept you're talking about it called "cheesing". Game designers have always had to deal with it... thus.. good game designers... are very good at dealing with it.

The whole point of alpha testing and beta testing is to try to break your product. There is no way a simple exploit like that will have any effect what-so-ever. Even if tagging were being used... and it won't be.

If yo

Blogger Austin Ballast October 26, 2016 10:27 AM  

The Chrome plug-in was not redirecting Google results for me yesterday.

Blogger VD October 26, 2016 10:31 AM  

Okay, dumb user question here: I've looked at several IG pages and compared them to WP pages. I don't see any difference. Where's the non-sycophantic page on Barack Obama, for instance?

Register as an editor. Make the desired changes so long as they comply with the Seven Canons. Remember, no soapboxing.

You now have the power. Stop expecting others to do everything for you. Freedom means you have the right and the ability to act as you see fit. It does not mean that anyone else is going to do what you believe should be done.

Blogger David-2 October 26, 2016 10:46 AM  

It's too bad infogalactic doesn't support article URLs that are identical to Wikipedia. Because then a simple hosts file or DNS cache alteration would be able to map Wikipedia articles to infogalactic. But currently, for example, you have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount but https://infogalactic.com/info/Florida_election_recount so that doesn't work.

Anonymous ashv October 26, 2016 10:58 AM  

I deployed MediaWiki at a bank for internal use as part of a consulting job a few years ago. It really, really is that bad, and it's amazing Wikipedia got as far as they did with it.

Building a replacement for that pile of garbage is as much a noble endeavour as providing an ideological alternative to Wikipedia. Godspeed, sir.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2016 11:05 AM  

" Make the desired changes so long as they comply with the Seven Canons. Remember, no soapboxing."

that reminds me... I need to add that section to the page on Abraham Lincoln about him being gay...

Blogger Nick S October 26, 2016 11:06 AM  

Ol' Flog Worthy Sandifer never learns. Pitiable.

Blogger VD October 26, 2016 11:09 AM  

I deployed MediaWiki at a bank for internal use as part of a consulting job a few years ago. It really, really is that bad, and it's amazing Wikipedia got as far as they did with it.

(nods) What we're doing there with DONTPANIC may actually turn out to be more significant for many people.

Anonymous bagger vance October 26, 2016 11:22 AM  

i must admit i would like a word-count limit on things like movie descriptions, character histories and other nerdalia. The typical level of detail manages to spoil frequently while somehow failing to describe accurately.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable October 26, 2016 11:29 AM  

i must admit i would like a word-count limit

Hear, hear.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 26, 2016 11:35 AM  

Another one -

https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/weird-internet-ideas-the-platonic-ideal-of-fringe-ideas-with-a-side-serve-of-voxopedia/

Weird Internet Ideas: The Platonic Ideal of Fringe Ideas with a side serve of Voxopedia

I must confess to a vice: I have a ghoulish fascination for dysfunctional ideas. Sad to say some, like global warming denialism or racism can feel depressingly ubiquitous.

>dysfunctional ideas like global warming denialism or racism

Blogger VD October 26, 2016 11:42 AM  

i must admit i would like a word-count limit on things like movie descriptions, character histories and other nerdalia.

That's not a bad idea. It would help encourage people to decide what aspects actually matter.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2016 11:47 AM  

"That's not a bad idea. It would help encourage people to decide what aspects actually matter. "

bah.

let the nerds be nerds.

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2016 11:48 AM  

Speaking of Infogalatic entries, since I don't have time to get involved right now I'll mention it here. Shelly Moore Capito has apparently reversed her repudiation of Trump: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news-election/20161012/capito-affirms-support-for-donald-trump-

Anonymous Ironsides October 26, 2016 11:58 AM  

A slight aesthetic tweak I'd like to see sometime -- this is really spergy, I believe, but whatever.

When you search for a topic that doesn't exist, you get this message: "Create the page "XXXX" on this wiki!"

I would prefer if it said "Create the page "XXXX" on this knowledge core!"

The term "wiki" here is a reminder of the decaying SJW shitheap that InfoGalactic is looking to replace. Also, I hate the word "wiki" with an irrational passion, and if people eventually started calling these online encyclopedias "knowledge cores" rather than "wikis," it would be as refreshing as drinking red-blooded American craft beer instead of some insipid SJW latte.

Anonymous Peaceable Citizen October 26, 2016 12:02 PM  

I wonder if this wapo article is a reaction to Infogalactic?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/25/somethings-terribly-wrong-with-the-internet-and-wikipedia-might-be-able-to-fix-it/

Blogger Dave October 26, 2016 12:09 PM  

Infogalactic gab:

@Infogalactic
Thank you, Infogalaxians! We achieved our three-month subscriber goal in 16 days. The Burn Unit is now 100 strong!


Way to go people! Why not double down; surpass 200 subscribers in the next 2-1/2 months?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 26, 2016 12:59 PM  

Peaceable Citizen wrote:I wonder if this wapo article is a reaction to Infogalactic?

The WaPo article is downright delusional:
It’s downright startling, then, to observe what happens behind the scenes at Wikipedia. Go to any article and visit the “talk” tab. More often than not, you'll find a somewhat orderly debate, even on contentious topics like Hillary Clinton's e-mails or Donald Trump's sexual abuse allegations.

Wikipedia is hardly perfect — it’s known for its pedantry, sexism, and epic edit wars. But somehow, despite of all the forces dragging it toward chaos, the site has managed to carve out a space on the Internet where people can have mostly sane, mostly productive conversations that mostly converge to a version of the truth.

Recent research from Harvard Business School suggests that Wikipedia has become increasingly balanced in the course of its 15-year history. An analysis of political articles shows that the site was once heavily biased toward the left, but has steadily drifted toward the center, to the point that many entries are now about as neutral as their counterparts in the Encyclopedia Britannica.


And they probably believe that.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable October 26, 2016 1:25 PM  

... in the course of its 15-year history. An analysis of political articles shows that the site was once heavily biased toward the left, but has steadily drifted toward the center.

Let me fix that for you: "In the course of Wikipedia's 15-year history, the average American has steadily drifted to the left, to the point that he would no longer possess sufficient discernment to detect Wikipedia's ongoing leftist bias.

Anonymous Peter #0231 October 26, 2016 1:37 PM  

Not only does the Infosextant add-on in FF work, when I clicked on the WP bookmark, it redirected to the Infogalactic home page.

Nice. Also, heh.

Blogger Nick S October 26, 2016 1:40 PM  


@55 "Also, I hate the word "wiki" with an irrational passion"

Funny, Ironsides, I have a nostalgic reaction to the word. When I was little my grandfather was greatly amused by teasing me relentlessly. Once, when he was drinking, he got the idea to call me "Nicky the Wiki". This went on for about a week and when it didn't ruffle my feathers the way he expected it should, he asked me, "Do you know what a Wiki is?" I said, "No. What is it?" "A 'Wiki'", he said, "is someone who farts in the bathtub and bites the bubbles", then he roared with laughter. He kept that one on the back burner, but would still occasionally whip it out once in a while for the next 30 years or so before he passed away...so it's a fond memory for me.

Anonymous not a Kitty Joyner fan October 26, 2016 1:53 PM  

cool graph, shows Galaxian growth, from https://twitter.com/CamestrosF

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvWt7zGVIAAE0Wo.jpg

Meanwhile,
https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/alt-pi-voxopedia-replies-again/

Meanwhile, elsewhere on Voxopedia more women have gone missing.
Kitty Joyner is the lead picture for ‘engineer’ on the Wikipedia page.


What a shame. And who is Kitty Joyner? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Joyner
Kitty O'Brien Joyner was an American electrical engineer with National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, and then with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration upon its replacement of NACA in 1958. She was hired in 1939 as the organization's first woman engineer, shortly after she had completed her degree as the first woman to graduate from the University of Virginia's engineering program.

Entryism much?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_engineering No picture of Kitty. There's representatives like Tesla, Edison, etc, but no Kitty. Can't find any Kitty papers, inventions, etc. Zero. Zip.

https://books.google.com/books?id=dKptTDl6eUcC
Hatch, Sybil E. (2006). Changing Our World: True Stories of Women Engineers
Published 2006. 0 reviews.

https://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/Kitty_O'Brien_Joyner
In a precedent-setting move, the NACA Memorial Langley Aeronautical Laboratory (LMAL) hired Kitty O’Brien (O. B.) Joyner in September 1939 as an electrical engineer (junior civil engineering aide), making her the first woman engineer hired by NACA Langley...

Interestingly, Joyner was the first female to graduate from the University of Virginia’s Engineering Program in 1939 and was granted admission into the UVA School of Engineering as a result of winning a law suit against UVA for possessing an all-male Engineering School prior to her lawsuit. Thus, Joyner became a trend setter in the academic ranks before becoming a trailblazer in the field of aeronautical research.


tl;dr: Promoted by foundations, hired as an engineering aide with a BSEE, sued (whose $?) for sexual discrimination and won. An SJW heroine.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare October 26, 2016 2:01 PM  

Okay, now *that* is an awesome testament to the "unconverged" nature of the Brave team. Fantastic! Now if only Brave had a decent Android version...those "link bubbles" drive me nuts, heh.

PS: will there be an Infogalactic extension for Dolphin Browser (android)?
PPS: When will "Compost Everything" be back in stock on Amazon? Or rather, when will the POD service start printing it again? I am starting to develop a "Dreyfus-like" twitch, waiting for my copy, lol.

God bless! :-)

Anonymous not a Kitty Joyner fan October 26, 2016 2:06 PM  

As it happens, we know the highest levels at Wikipedia are paying close attention to what we're doing because they've already been in contact with us. I would describe their attitude as half-confused, half-concerned. They know they can't do what we're already in the process of doing, nor do they have a good grasp of why we're doing it in the first place. So, don't be surprised if, in the long run, they end up using our technology.

Wikipedia's got their top men on it. Top men.

nor do they have a good grasp of why we're doing it in the first place

What was that Sun Tsu passage again?

Anonymous RabidRatel October 26, 2016 2:12 PM  

not a Kitty Joyner fan wrote:What was that Sun Tsu passage again?

I'm afraid that they have converged that passage completely out of his writing

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 26, 2016 2:12 PM  

not a Kitty Joyner fan wrote:Meanwhile, elsewhere on Voxopedia more women have gone missing.

Kitty Joyner is the lead picture for ‘engineer’ on the Wikipedia page.


What a shame. And who is Kitty Joyner?

More to the point, if she was an engineer, what did she design? I know what Werner von Braun designed. What did Kitty Joyner design?

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 2:16 PM  

tired: let them hate so long as they fear

wired: let them laugh so long as they offer their skulls as goblets.

Anonymous bagger vance October 26, 2016 2:54 PM  

@53 Nate:

I fully support having a page for anything notable (or not) but the length, detail and effort expended could be proportional to importance via a standardized scale, and thus be better directed at new pages than endless recaps. Also, TVTropes and TV w/o Pity exist already.

Just trying to prevent Wikigroaning when it isn't necessary. Because it isn't.

Blogger Aziz P. October 26, 2016 4:14 PM  

Kudos on your project, Vox. It's always a good thing to create user choice, and to do so using technological innovation rather than fiat. Having installed MediaWiki a few times for various projects before I also would like to heartily applaud the idea that it might be obsoleted in a decade.

Given that the title of the project evokes The HitchHiker's Guide, the immediate logo that I visualized was a single word: Panic. ;) As well they should.

I'm aware that it's self indulgent for me to post here, but for whatever it's worth, I think you're doing something good here that transcends the politics of the day. I hope you maintain your momentum.

Anonymous not a Kitty Joyner fan October 26, 2016 4:39 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:if she was an engineer, what did she design? I know what Werner von Braun designed. What did Kitty Joyner design?

It doesn't look like Camestros Felapton can help us here.

Look, she has a slide rule and everything! Sadly her presence was just too confusing for the poor folks at Voxopedia. Maybe that big circular gizmo in the background didn’t look pi=4 enough.

Big circular gizmo. Hmm, what ever could it be? Why is it so big, and so round? Which men invented it, which men engineered it, whose cultural artifact is it, and what is its purpose? Estimate the torque rating on that little circular gizmo in the center of the big circular gizmo. NACA Langley wind tunnel?
https://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/NASA_Cultural_Resources_(CRGIS)
https://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/File:LAL_81542.jpg

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 26, 2016 10:09 PM  

not a Kitty Joyner fan wrote:It doesn't look like Camestros Felapton can help us here.


So the proof of her ability as an engineer is that she had ovaries?
Who wants to bet that within 3 years of hiring, she was doing tech writing, QA or recruiting?

Anonymous not a Kitty Joyner fan October 26, 2016 11:49 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Who wants to bet that within 3 years of hiring, she was doing tech writing, QA or recruiting?

Nobody's going to take that bet- there's just enough information (not much) out there to put the picture together.

From Wiki- Langley Research Center) hired Joyner as an electrical engineer[ing aide with a lousy BSEE ffs] in September 1939, making her their first woman engineer. Joyner worked for NACA/NASA for several decades, achieving the title Branch Head of the Facilities Cost Estimating Branch, Office of Engineering and Technical Services, and managing several wind tunnels, including supersonic wind tunnels.

Figurehead bureaucrat. No mention of any actual engineering, electrical or otherwise. This case is interesting, both for a Hi$tory of SJW$ and Their Enabler$, for the current Infogalactic femto-tempest, and as a case study in the roots of cancer and affirmative action. Who paid to promote her beyond her capacity back when? (We already know why.) Who funded the womynz discrimination lawsuit? Who installed this nobody at Wikipedia-Engineering? She looks odd, nervous, in the NASA/NACA photo, like she knows she is being used.

Anonymous Mr. Rational October 27, 2016 8:49 AM  

not a Kitty Joyner fan wrote:Can't find any Kitty papers, inventions, etc. Zero. Zip.
Wow, I have my name on more patents than NACA's first female engineer.  Imagine that.

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Who wants to bet that within 3 years of hiring, she was doing tech writing, QA or recruiting?
The Black female NASA recruit at MidWestCon II was ignorant of astronaut medical issues popping up in the news and wanted to talk about bone density loss, which has been studied for decades.  Worthless.

I hope the Trump administration orders an end to diversity hiring immediately, and starts pruning the deadwood not long thereafter.

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