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Saturday, October 01, 2016

The Disconvergence

Three things happened in September.

  1. Twitter blocked links to Vox Popoli.
  2. I stopped tweeting on Twitter and moved to #Gab.
  3. Monthly site traffic grew from 2.83 million pageviews to 2.97 million pageviews. 

Conclusion: Twitter is officially irrelevant with regards to site traffic. Traffic over the October-December period will either confirm or contradict that conclusion.

Regardless, next week, the rise of Alt-Tech is going to become more apparent. Project Big Fork is already partnering with Brave and Gab. Plans for other alternatives are already in the works. The cultural high ground of social media cannot be conceded to the SJWs who run it.

Although the balance of resources looks imposing, this is a series of battles that are eminently winnable due to the Impossibility of Social Justice Convergence. Remember, the more an institution converges towards the highest abstract standard of social and distributive justice, the less it is able to perform its primary function.

As long as Alt-Tech focuses on its primary functions rather than upon becoming a reverse image of the SJW-converged social media institutions, its victory in the long term is inevitable. This is the beginning of our Gramscian long march.

But we will need your help, in a wide variety of ways. On Monday at 7 PM Eastern, I'll be holding an open Brainstorm for all the Dread Ilk and everyone else interested in supporting what I am calling the Alt-Tech Disconvergence. Invites will be going out to the OGs, Brainstormers, and VFM first, as there is only room for 1,000 seats.

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122 Comments:

Blogger Franz Lionheart October 01, 2016 8:21 AM  

https://gab.ai/

I'm #78124 on the waiting list. Apparently this will take 2 weeks before I'll be invited.

Blogger Durandel Almiras October 01, 2016 8:33 AM  

Can't wait. it will be fun to watch Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia, etc. burn themselves down and self-banish into MySpace hell.

Blogger Cerdic Ricing October 01, 2016 8:38 AM  

I'm excited at the prospect of seeing these converged platforms die. These alternatives are long overdue.

Blogger Tom M October 01, 2016 8:41 AM  

Does anyone know of a support email for GAB? I've tried to get on using 3 email addys over 2 months - no joy. Replies to the 'You're in line...' email that I got from GAB get returned as undeliverable. Big Fork partnering with GAB and Brave - I'm getting hard.

Anonymous Mister M October 01, 2016 8:44 AM  

I got on the waiting list for Gab, then accepted within the day. I think many like me, people who don't have 'loud' internet presences, will gladly go to the new alt-tech sites, as we are sick and tired of the tone and language and thought policing.

OpenID trunthepaige October 01, 2016 8:44 AM  

I need to get on the list. I would hate to lose touch. Twitter never really worked for me anyway

Blogger Orville October 01, 2016 8:46 AM  

Vox, would you consider recording this next brainstorm if it doesn't violate opsec?

Blogger VD October 01, 2016 8:50 AM  

Vox, would you consider recording this next brainstorm if it doesn't violate opsec?

Sure, I suppose. Jeromy, are you up for another transcript? I know it's kind of piling on....

Blogger rumpole5 October 01, 2016 8:52 AM  

Back in the late 90's I became so disgusted with the Orlando Sentinel newspaper that I just stopped reading it. As a prosecutor, I had direct knowledge about a number of cases that the media thought newsworthy. Media always got the facts wrong, and spun facts to the SJW left. If you think that you are getting the facts from newspaper and TV you are wrong. The direct posting of cell phone videos, photos and comments on the internet is the best thing that I've seen and gives me hope. KUDOS for facilitating that process!

Anonymous OK October 01, 2016 8:55 AM  

Since the internet is apparently going to be run by the U.N., I was wondering if a long term project to create an alternate internet is on anyone's agenda.

Blogger tuberman October 01, 2016 8:59 AM  

VD

Great news, and thanks for the update. I come here to learn, and you and other Pro-Western Civilization people are my mentors.

I'm 68, and so far I've talked or helped to talk several fence sitters and former Leftists into being Trump supporters, yet I get silence when I try to get them to read Alt-Right blogs and sites I was a Pat Buchanan reader years ago, and started reading European Alt-Right people six months before Trump started running, as that was the only way to get the truth about what was happening in Europe.

Blogger #7139 October 01, 2016 9:09 AM  

Let the long march of the Alt-Tech Disconvergence begin.

Blogger tz October 01, 2016 9:09 AM  

If only Brave would release a decent browser for Android (with password/formfill import and sync/weave).

Or a brave extension or patch for PaleMoon.

That quirky bubble browser isn't usable and it is the only one.

Brave's monetization combined with Gab.ai eventually going to videos might break YouTube's PC (political censorship).

OT: SJWism, Muslims force woman to move to the back of the plane

Blogger VD October 01, 2016 9:09 AM  

I get silence when I try to get them to read Alt-Right blogs and sites

That's kind of like starting a teenager off on crack. Start them at Alt-Lite places like the Unz Review and Breitbart. Then they can move onto Zerohedge. Going straight here from the local newspaper will prove too intense for most.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 01, 2016 9:12 AM  

What's with the "long march" stuff? There's got to be a more direct route. When you say "long march", I think of the way progressives started their march in the late 19th century and established a foothold under the Wilson administration and began scoring victories which includes but is not limited to the New Deal and Great Society. That's a long time. Is that what you mean by "long march"? Forgive my impatience.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 01, 2016 9:17 AM  

#11 it is far easier to disqualify and discredit, it is why the alt-right is learning how to use rhetoric.

The right spent decades trying to hold an intellectual discussion with the left all to no avail so now it is time to actually be effective and disqualify and discredit the left.

In short discredit their script writers.

Anonymous Samson J. October 01, 2016 9:21 AM  

Is there room in this for Luddites who don't know modern tech from Star Trek? I often think I should be helping, but I think my role lies elsewhere.

Blogger tz October 01, 2016 9:21 AM  

And we need to build cars, as Eric Peters complains GM is converged and IDs the problem

Years ago (back in the ’90s) when I first began to write about cars for a living, I attended my first “press only” events for car journalists. It was my first exposure to corporate racism (and sexism) except it was directed at me on account of my whiteness and maleness. I – and others – endured many an unctuous sermon given by guys like Peterson (every car company has one; has several… they have to… else they risk accusations of… drum roll… “racism”). And, in addition to that, the tub-thumping of race-hustling car journalists such as representatives of a publication titled, I kid you not, African Americans on Wheels.

Even the loosertatians are getting tired of the reverse racism and sexism.

Blogger FrankNorman October 01, 2016 9:22 AM  

10. OK October 01, 2016 8:55 AM

Since the internet is apparently going to be run by the U.N., I was wondering if a long term project to create an alternate internet is on anyone's agenda.


I think we're assuming that some parts of the internet system remain neutral ground - the physical hardware for example.

Blogger Amy October 01, 2016 9:29 AM  

Excellent. I was on #Gab within days of queueing up. I don't use it much but it's been informative and entertaining to read.

Any plans for a FB alternative? I use it for job purposes, as my employer and all associated organizations use it exclusively for marketing, etc. It's "free" is the rationale.

Chances it just becomes an echo chamber? Anything we can do to spread the word and build momentum, I'll be happy to do and help.

Blogger Cerdic Ricing October 01, 2016 9:29 AM  

Breitbart and all are a good place to start. I know I started at reddit (then voat) and /pol, then started listening to Stefan's videos before seeing VD on there and coming here.

I guess that path you described seems the more traditional one for people in older generations than mine. The younger crowd might find more atypical paths to make it here, which is something to keep in mind. That's been my experience, at least.

Blogger VD October 01, 2016 9:45 AM  

Is there room in this for Luddites who don't know modern tech from Star Trek?

We will be seeking both advertisement revenue and donations. So, yes.

Any plans for a FB alternative?

Yes. But first things first.

Blogger VD October 01, 2016 9:46 AM  

What's with the "long march" stuff? There's got to be a more direct route.

Read Antonio Gramsci, then opine.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 01, 2016 9:49 AM  

White men are the prize, now how cool can anything be that bans and blocks the coolest segment of the most prized demographic?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 01, 2016 9:50 AM  

@23 You're killin' my wallet. I'm off to Amazon..... again.

Anonymous CC October 01, 2016 9:50 AM  

What's with the "long march" stuff? There's got to be a more direct route.

There is, if things carry on like this, they'll soon they'll be taking a long march off a short pier (metaphorically speaking of course).

Anonymous SwplSwede October 01, 2016 10:00 AM  

Why not use the library if cost is an issue?

Searching for "Gramsci pdf" yields a ton of hits as well.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 01, 2016 10:03 AM  

@27 I'll do "Gramsci PDF". Thanx!

Blogger ZhukovG October 01, 2016 10:06 AM  

@25 Al From bay Shore: You can probably get most of what you need free. Just do a search on Gramsci, Rudi Dutschke and anything about the 'Long March through the Institutions'.

Blogger Johnny October 01, 2016 10:07 AM  

VD wrote:What's with the "long march" stuff? There's got to be a more direct route.

Read Antonio Gramsci, then opine.


Opine? Don't hear that word much.

By my lights Antonio pretty much got it right, except for one mistake. The usual one. He assumes that abuse comes only from the other side. I say opine this. He who has power abuses it. Or to be more of a cultural vanguard, he/she/it who has power abuses power abuses it.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 01, 2016 10:07 AM  

@26 I'm thinking of how the colonial oligarchs found a way to overthrow the Articles of Confederation in less than one generation. I've accepted the idea that "there's more than one way to skin a cat". The "long march" scenario is something I don't wanna do. I've heard that from the dudes in Conservatism Inc. and GOPe and, to me, it sounds suspiciously like concession. Nonetheless, I'll hook up with the works of Gramsci and read.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 01, 2016 10:08 AM  

@28 I'm down with that program. I'm on it.

Anonymous Frugal Alt Right Fanboi October 01, 2016 10:13 AM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:You're killin' my wallet. I'm off to Amazon..... again.

Brother, no need to spend your money, there's a free PDF of Gramsci on the converged wikipedia.

Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_Notebooks#External_links

Anonymous Oye October 01, 2016 10:13 AM  

"That's kind of like starting a teenager off on crack."

Alt-White/Alt-Pure is pure heroin. Watch out for an epidemic.

Anonymous Godfrey October 01, 2016 10:14 AM  

I officially moved to "Brave" this week. I've had a few minor issues with business related sites recognizing the browser - my non-tech I guess - but overall the move has been seamless.

Blogger Nemontel October 01, 2016 10:18 AM  

VD wrote:Going straight here from the local newspaper will prove too intense for most.

That is very wrong. People are very shocked at first, yes, but they soon discover incredibly interesting information. That is how i got redpilled. The first Alt Right blogs i visited were very painful for my Amygdala, but after a while the adaptation process began. For quite a lot of people the jump into cold water is indeed the best approach.

Blogger Kallmunz October 01, 2016 10:19 AM  

I still use other browsers Brave is not quite ready for prime time, that said Brave is now about 80% of my browsing. Browsers are free, you don't have to drop other browsers to use Brave, so what are you waiting for?

Blogger Johnny October 01, 2016 10:20 AM  

OK wrote:Since the internet is apparently going to be run by the U.N., I was wondering if a long term project to create an alternate internet is on anyone's agenda.



An alternate internet would require a supportive government. If the UN gets crazy enough maybe it will come to that. The internet reduced to some extent to nation state networks. In a small way that is going on already in some of the totalitarian countries with local censorship.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 01, 2016 10:23 AM  

@32 Thanks bro. I'll be reading today.

Blogger Lovekraft October 01, 2016 10:24 AM  

"That's kind of like starting a teenager off on crack."

Which is why I am arguing for a survey/flowchart detailing one's possible position under the great alt-right tent.

The purpose of which is to settle some of the current hostility and confusion.

Survey would start off with basic questions to weed out the blue pillers. Move up to weed out moderates. Then onto alt-righters in name only.

With the remaining group, alignment would correspond to one's real assets and needs and contribution potential.

Level 1 alt-right is poor, low-educated but still desiring a place in the sun.

Level 2 is middle class with potential to enact local policy but still mired in the system

Level 3 is the neo-masculinist type who can serve as guides to other men

Level 4 are the game-changers who's creativity provides light to the rest of us. They can have their own focus.

Anonymous Godfrey October 01, 2016 10:25 AM  

We shall not go quietly into the dark night. Western civilization will not be destroy without a bitter fight.

Blogger Dirtnapninja October 01, 2016 10:33 AM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:What's with the "long march" stuff? There's got to be a more direct route. When you say "long march", I think of the way progressives started their march in the late 19th century and established a foothold under the Wilson administration and began scoring victories which includes but is not limited to the New Deal and Great Society. That's a long time. Is that what you mean by "long march"? Forgive my impatience.

Our enemies understand that any movement leftwards is better than no movement leftwards, as long as things keep moving leftwards. We must think the same way...any movement to the right is better than no movement to the right, and in time many small movements can build up to an irresistible momentum as logn as we keep moving rightwards. Our victory will take generations because we need to rebuild a cultural and intellectual infrastructure.

Anonymous Emmanuel M October 01, 2016 10:36 AM  

Proud Brave user here, I even refered it to two other people.

The Big Fork is actually a very significant step in fight back against SJW. For the very first time, tech companies will have to pay a real price for pissing their right wing users. And THAT is a good change.

Blogger The Other Robot October 01, 2016 10:37 AM  

And, in addition to that, the tub-thumping of race-hustling car journalists such as representatives of a publication titled, I kid you not, African Americans on Wheels.

Would they be 19" wheels by any chance?

Anonymous Godfrey October 01, 2016 10:39 AM  

@14
True...don't start them off on Alex Jones, Lew Rockwell or such. They'll run across those soon enough.

Once you start digging within the internet you usually can't stop. The rabbit hole runs very deep and it leads to many interesting places. Once you start asking very important questions you begin to encounter very disturbing answers backed by an abundance of fascinating evidence and rational commonsense observation.

Once you see the truth you can't "un-see" it. There's no going back... there's internal denial... but there's no going back.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 01, 2016 10:39 AM  

FrankNorman wrote:10. OK October 01, 2016 8:55 AM

Since the internet is apparently going to be run by the U.N., I was wondering if a long term project to create an alternate internet is on anyone's agenda.


I think we're assuming that some parts of the internet system remain neutral ground - the physical hardware for example.


I expect this assumption is a serious error. I recall it was exposed that the NSA had 'black boxes' installed at all the major ISP's (Google, Yahoo/ATT, etc.) even before Snowden demonstrated how free the so-called "free world" really is by fleeing to Russia.

Blogger The Other Robot October 01, 2016 10:42 AM  

OT, but the new 'Hitler' has arisen!

https://www.rt.com/news/361292-duterte-philippines-hitler-drugs/

Blogger Revelation Means Hope October 01, 2016 10:44 AM  

OGs?
Original Gamergaters?

Under a different pseudonym, been commenting here since the first few months. And I can't figure out what OG stands for.

Ah, maybe Old Guard.

I'll email you using my original name and email.

I won't reveal it here because you pointed out that as this blog gains prominence, our enemies are spying and investigating people.

This year, someone broke into my house and stole $100,000 worth of precious metals. This is about the only place I ever commented on the wisdom of having that true money. So now, perhaps after the barn has been emptied, I'm being more cautious.

I would advise others to be similarly circumspect. Unless you're Nate with a compound and a nice field of fire.

Anonymous prcd October 01, 2016 10:50 AM  

Vox, can you please put a list of non-converged tech companies we should be supporting in your sidebar?

Blogger The Other Robot October 01, 2016 10:51 AM  

@47: Original Groovers? Original Gun-nuts?

Blogger Dave October 01, 2016 10:53 AM  

Internet technology will always move ahead of the censors: ‘Blockstack’ Startup Seeks to Build ‘Second Internet’ That Can’t Be Censored

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/09/29/second-internet-coming-soon-courtesy-blockchain/

Blogger Jack Ward October 01, 2016 10:54 AM  

At last...the Gathering.

Blogger Johnny October 01, 2016 10:54 AM  

The thing is, people who go to an AltRight website are ready to be convinced. That is why they are at the website. If this thing ever gets to be big, picking up large numbers of followers will require moderation. Most people get convinced a little at a time.

If success is to be had, a two tier approach would be less. An ideological leader, probably AltRight, and then a more practical group that pushes a version of it. Trump is what, maybe a third of the way there with is rejection of internationalism?

Blogger Nemontel October 01, 2016 10:56 AM  

Jack Ward wrote:At last...the Gathering.

There can be ONLY ONE!

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 11:08 AM  

@10 OK
Since the internet is apparently going to be run by the U.N., I was wondering if a long term project to create an alternate internet is on anyone's agenda.
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I saw this the other day. Let's hope that this and others are working on something.

http://observer.com/2016/09/a-second-internet-coming-soon-courtesy-of-the-blockchain/

Blogger The Other Robot October 01, 2016 11:09 AM  

@54: There's always UUCP :-)

Blogger Dave October 01, 2016 11:10 AM  

Started using Brave two weeks ago; other software and websites recognize it as chrome. I recall we had to configure Palemoon to identify as other than Firefox. Has that been tried with Brave? Also want Brave to default to Start Page search engine but it doesn't recognize it.

Blogger The Other Robot October 01, 2016 11:14 AM  

Laying the Groundwork for War with Russia from Russia Insider?

Blogger Dave October 01, 2016 11:17 AM  

Open Brainstorm @7pm EST is cutting it close. Need I remind you Vikings vs Giants MNF.

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid October 01, 2016 11:18 AM  

I put infor gab, though I'v never used twitter. Don't want to be left in the cold just in case the alt-right sites are purged one morning. Crazy that I have to even imagine such things.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 11:20 AM  

@21 Cerdic Ricing

I guess that path you described seems the more traditional one for people in older generations than mine. The younger crowd might find more atypical paths to make it here, which is something to keep in mind. That's been my experience, at least.
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That's a given. I ended up here from the Sad Puppies.

Blogger Johnny October 01, 2016 11:26 AM  

The Other Robot wrote:Laying the Groundwork for War with Russia from Russia Insider?

For sure, not doubt about it. Lots of clues. Hit an aid column and see if hate for Russian can be ginned up. Hit some pro Russian leaders and see if the Russians respond. Claim Russian is hacking websites to upset the election and link Trump to it if it can be done. Etc.

The scumbags are risking a major war because they want a confrontation. The better to win the election, the better to keep the global muck-a-luck going.

The election looks shaky, globalism in Europe isn't going well, and Russia is close to sealing up a tactical victory in Aleppo.

The dangerous thing is that I don't think Russia is willing to back down in Syria if it comes to that.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 11:26 AM  

@36 Kallmunz

Browsers are free, you don't have to drop other browsers to use Brave, so what are you waiting for?
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I'll have to check Brave again soon. My only problem is VPN extensions, and one is more a pita than necessity with a password manager.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 11:31 AM  

@46 The Other Robot
OT, but the new 'Hitler' has arisen!

https://www.rt.com/news/361292-duterte-philippines-hitler-drugs/
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I wonder does this give the nat-socs CogDis, because that guy being Hitler :P

Blogger BunE22 October 01, 2016 11:32 AM  

I saw this back in June.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/08/technology/the-webs-creator-looks-to-reinvent-it.html

People have had enough.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 11:33 AM  

@47 Revelation Means Hope

This year, someone broke into my house and stole $100,000 worth of precious metals.
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Ouch, that has to hurt. I always have a junky room and put things like this under tons of useless items. So far, so good.

Blogger tuberman October 01, 2016 11:34 AM  

#16

I punch at the scripted narratives with everyone I talk with every time.


And yes, much discrediting has already worked, especially around HRC and her HoaxMedia (as Mike says). This has made deep inroads into typical or even poorly informed people. I constantly attack.

On the individual level it is easy to discredit any type of Cuck, Leftist, or Globalist. A few days ago I got into a discussion with some type of Globalist Cuck, and after he said, "I know what you are, you're a Nazi!" I remained calm and ask him if he knew what "projection" is and how it works. I said, "You know, deep down inside, that you are a fanatic, and are part of a group mind, or a follower." I asked, "You believe in multiculturalism, right?" He did.

I then quickly showed him his understanding of other cultures was shallow, or just talking points from Globalist, Leftist positions. I got inside his OODA, by demonstrating my deep interest in other cultures from a positive point of view, at first. This only worked because he was not a true "Rules for Radicals Leftist" and he has some curiosity remaining, so he was actually shocked when I did not fit into his "Nazi" stereotype.

I started asking him about Witch Hunts and Witch Words on several levels. I told him that "Racist and Nazi" are just two of a number of failing Witch Accusations that are becoming ineffective in the current world.

I swear this guy was shaking and almost crying after a short time. I stopped before he went to some authorities, like a fem SJW, and accused me of "bullying" him.

My point: This guy had a strong emotional response, so why? There is some kind of break down in his world view happening IMO. Globalists are constantly now accusing people on the Right of being "delusional," as their greatest fear is that they are the deluded ones.



Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 11:35 AM  

@51 Jack Ward
At last...the Gathering.
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I see, Jace Ward.

Anonymous Man of the Atom October 01, 2016 11:37 AM  

Brave is running nicely on my Win7 box, but my Debian 7 systems won't play. Not going to install Debian 8 right now due to convergence concerns over systemd (I blame Red Hat, as usual). Devuan 1 Beta or Slack for the new box maybe ... . The SJWs are quite literally everywhere these days.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 11:39 AM  

@52 Johnny

If success is to be had, a two tier approach would be less. An ideological leader, probably AltRight, and then a more practical group that pushes a version of it. Trump is what, maybe a third of the way there with is rejection of internationalism?
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Go ahead and lead. There is no leader of the alt-right.

People will have different reasons for joining, and it won't always contain all 16 points.

Some will join in solely to combat the globalists.

Some will join in to stop the revisionists writing white people out of history.

Some will join in because they are thrown in due to their circumstances.

Once they are in alt-light, they will slowly learn about the rest of it. It's hard not to once you're red pills begin.

Anonymous Darth Wheatley #2415 October 01, 2016 11:46 AM  

After 20 years in IT, I'm just about done with the big tech companies. They've all been converged, they've all gone to shit, they've all sold us out.

I'm just f'ing done.

Come on, Big Fork. There can Be Only One.

Blogger Rez Zircon October 01, 2016 11:47 AM  

Another Alt- that might be worth keeping an eye on is Linked-In. Don't know anything about their internal culture but last week saw the first ambiguous mailing (far as I've paid attention) that smelled of feminazi influence.

Anonymous BGKB October 01, 2016 11:52 AM  

Conclusion: Twitter is officially irrelevant with regards to site traffic.

Should I believe the Clinton's were good for the economy because Al Gores invention "the internet" took off then? You were blocked because too many people were noticing reality, you would have gotten even more if you stayed on.

Is there room in this for Luddites who don't know modern tech from Star Trek?

Do you know which end of a rifle to point at the enemy?
Which is why I am arguing for a survey/flowchart detailing one's possible position under the great alt-right tent

If you are a jewish guy that sucks black cock do you really need a flowchart?

This year, someone broke into my house and stole $100,000 worth of precious metals.

Was it in a safe or hidden? Ferfal recommends having a decoy safe.

OT: Moslems behaving badly
Froce woman to back of plane, story calls Pakis "monks" http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-woman-united-airlines-changed-seat-because-gender/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab8a&linkId=29407434
Motive is unclear http://pamelageller.com/2016/09/muslim-screaming-allahu-akbar-tries-to-mow-down-pedestrians-in-austria.html/

Soros memo found http://pamelageller.com/2016/09/george-soros-money-men-caught-on-memo-plotting-pro-muslim-pitches-post-terror.html/

Blogger tuberman October 01, 2016 12:02 PM  

#70

I figure some of the higher IQ IT people working for these big companies, are also on thee verge of being done with and alienated from these companies.

They have to be under incredible pressure to suck uf to the more and more converged SJW realities in these companies, and their huge talents become less and less important in the inane PC world created by these creeps. Many of these guys, if they are not gay, are slightly left of center, or non-Political, yet that is no longer good enough, and these businesses are in the process of abusing these guys constantly, and not appreciating their need for them, and they will be forced out and will make powerful allies in the future.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 01, 2016 12:13 PM  

Okay, I'm now officially tired of "China is going to control my porn" hysteria.

Nothing is going to change in the way the internet is run.

What is going to happen is that the company that runs the TLD (top level domain) servers is going to start getting checks from a different account. The change in control is ENTIRELY symbolic.

There is nothing magic about running a top level domain. You can do it yourself. There have been in internet history 4 other organizations that have, for a time, run their own top level domains due to disputes with ICANN. If ICANN starts playing games, that will happen again immediately. It doesn't even take money. Back in the early 2000's the TLD was run out of 4 Sun 1Ghz pizza boxes in Herndon VA. You can't even buy computers anymore slow enough to be overloaded by the demands of running the TLD.

But the TLD doesn't actually control any of the address resolution. That is handled by the 2nd level domains (.com, .net, .us, .uk, etc). That's who you pay when you get a domain, that's who manages their own namespace. Those organizations are not changing.

And I can guarantee that each of the major 2nd level domains not only can operate their own TLD, they have one running right now, just in case, as do the serious internet players. I know that Google has one running. There's too much money riding on proper name resolution, and too little effort and expense involved in setting up your own backup for them not to do so.

All Google would have to do is put a note on their front page 'To properly resolve names on the internet, set your DNS to 8.8.8.8' with a link to a how-to. Within a day, ICANN would be a faint memory. The 8.8.8.8 address, by the way, is Google's actual public DNS server, and is known to everybody who has to troubleshoot internet connections, who use it to differentiate problems with the specific host from problems at the DNS server.

So no, the UN is not going to steal your internets, and if they try, the internet will, as is customary, route around it.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 12:20 PM  

@73 tuberman
I figure some of the higher IQ IT people working for these big companies, are also on thee verge of being done with and alienated from these companies.
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This is easy. They just H1B them with an Indian. Problem solved for the SJW company.

Blogger Dave October 01, 2016 12:23 PM  

This year, someone broke into my house and stole $100,000 worth of precious metals.

Was it in a safe or hidden? Ferfal recommends having a decoy safe.


Bad opsec online; you don't know who might be watching:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/699236946e3140659fff8a2362e16f43/ap-across-us-police-officers-abuse-confidential-databases

Anonymous Heywood October 01, 2016 12:36 PM  

Franz Lionheart wrote:https://gab.ai/

I'm #78124 on the waiting list. Apparently this will take 2 weeks before I'll be invited.



I was somewhere around 62k one and a half week ago. Apart from the robo-greeting, nothing yet. Which would be fine, except I see people here claiming to sign up and get the invite the same day. If they have a priority queue, that's fine, but as is you don't know if the invite has been lost in the mail or if it really is taking so long. Re-applying with the same email just tells you that address has already been registered. Well, yes, I know that. I just kinda wonder if Gab lost track it in the invitation process.

Anonymous Flavia October 01, 2016 12:37 PM  

Sharing funny meme pictures like the coprop Rlissy did or that Taylor Swift with quote about white kids seems like good starting point.

Hook me with humor!

Blogger The Other Robot October 01, 2016 12:38 PM  

@48: You had that much invested in Ammo?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 01, 2016 12:42 PM  

The Other Robot wrote:@48: You had that much invested in Ammo?
M61 Vulcan autocannon.

Blogger Cynic In Chief October 01, 2016 12:59 PM  

I'm going to be attempting to use the Alt-Tech revolution to get myself out of the rat race. With so much convergence from so many companies, all you have to do right now is pick one and go for it. I'm currently exploring making an alternative to SoundCloud, since they have a penchant for banning anyone they don't like.

OK, don't worry too much about the transfer of ICANN. Although it opens the door for censorship to more countries than it was before, the US government has been censoring the DNS system already. ICANN has little power over it, Verisign and other registrars are the weak points here. If there's interest, I might do a blog post and/or podcast on it.

Blogger OneWingedShark October 01, 2016 1:01 PM  

VD:

Has the SW-stack of these forked projects already been decided? -- I would recommend that the Ironsides DNS be used and possibly adopted. (I've heard directly from Dr. Carlisle that he's looking for a good organization to maintain it.)

On the technical side Ironsides has a lot of desirable properties because of its formally-proven nature: (1) no single-packet denial-of-service; (2) no remote-code execution, (3) no unspecified termination [ie "crashes"]; and with proper configuration, no cache-poisoning.

Considering that these non-converged competitors will likely come under attack when the converged originals start to die off, it is prudent to eliminate whatever openings we have. (ie Choose the terrain to fight on.)

Anonymous Satan's Hamster October 01, 2016 1:16 PM  

"This is easy. They just H1B them with an Indian. Problem solved for the SJW company."

Yes. The Converged replace the Evil White Men who are actually doing the useful work with Indians who doesn't know how to do anything other than hire all his relatives once he gets into a management position.

That'll work. Just look at Microsoft.

Personally, every time I have to use Gnome ('Women In Computing!') 3, I curse Red Hat for destroying what used to be the best desktop UI around.

The big tech companies can't fail fast enough, as far as I'm concerned. Let the SJWs take them all down. As for the Internet, Evil White Men built it. We can build another one if the SJWs destroy it.

Blogger Matt October 01, 2016 1:24 PM  

I still haven't received an email from gab.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster October 01, 2016 1:40 PM  

"The "long march" scenario is something I don't wanna do."

It doesn't need to be much of a 'long march', because the majority of Converged organizations in Western society don't need to be taken over, just defunded. Close them all and rebuild the few that actually serve a useful purpose in the modern world.

Since they're all failing anyway because Convergence, we soon won't have much trouble convincing people to just cut the funding and let them burn. Particularly when those very Converged organizations are pushing us into a global economic depression. SJW-ism is a disease of wealth, and no-one's going to give a crap about trannie rights when they can't put food on their table.

In the tech world, sure, there's a lot of work to do. But all it really takes there is to offer something better, and the failing, Converged organizations will soon be abandoned.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis October 01, 2016 1:41 PM  

Memes. They are very powerful. Example: google "warrior angel", select images, select an image, right click and "view image". Then go to a meme generator site. Copy URL for the image, paste in. Add your message. The meme generator site will typically then enable adding your meme to an image site (such as imgur). Now you can link your meme to any communication you want.
Done.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian October 01, 2016 2:08 PM  

Still haven't received my email from Gab. WTF

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian October 01, 2016 2:08 PM  

Three weeks now, fwiw.

Anonymous Godfrey October 01, 2016 2:12 PM  

Despite 24/7 MSM propaganda

Despite 18 long years of confinement in government "education" camps

Despite the Hollywood cultural rot within which we swim...


Resistance exists.

.. and resistance is victory.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 01, 2016 2:19 PM  

So no, the UN is not going to steal your internets, and if they try, the internet will, as is customary, route around it.

yeah, the real problem will be the hardware switches. Protocols, TLDs, none of that matters if the hardware that actually does the routing refuses to route to or from certain addresses.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey October 01, 2016 2:21 PM  

Those are perfectly sensible conclusions.

Blogger Unknown October 01, 2016 2:42 PM  

What is Brave?

Anonymous Casey October 01, 2016 2:43 PM  

Concerning securing valuables: I live in an early 1900's bungalow. One advantage to these antique dwellings is that they're filled with nooks and crannies.

I lived here for over 5 years before I discovered an exceptionally hidden area which leads into an open space in the circumference of my house. Since then I've found many others.

Safes are good. But it's better to store valuables in places that burglars won't notice.

Blogger The Other Robot October 01, 2016 2:55 PM  

@93: Browse faster and safer with Brave!

Blogger Shimshon October 01, 2016 3:09 PM  

"That's kind of like starting a teenager off on crack. Start them at Alt-Lite places like the Unz Review and Breitbart. Then they can move onto Zerohedge. Going straight here from the local newspaper will prove too intense for most."

I told a friend of mine about Scott Adams (as we talked variously about Trump). Now my friend is mad at me for getting him addicted to Scott Adams. He's not even Alt Light, but he is a good eye opener.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 01, 2016 3:11 PM  

My original Gab submission on a gmail address from a week and a half ago has never received an email. My second one, using my work address, was responded to immediately and just now allowed me to register after 3 days.

There's a problem in how Gab is processing these requests.

Blogger Matt October 01, 2016 3:14 PM  

I got it, thanks.

Blogger Shimshon October 01, 2016 3:18 PM  

This sounds like a Brainstorm I'd make the effort to stay up for. But it is right in the middle of Rosh Hashana, so not this time. Enjoy. I hope a transcript or recording will be made available.

Looking forward to the Big Announcement. And many more to come.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 01, 2016 3:30 PM  

Mr Rational and I disagree on a lot of things. Almost everything, as I think about it. But he is right in this. The only reasonable energy policy going forward is nuclear reactors, preferably thorium fueled.

Not because of Global warming, which is a fraud. Not because of Pollution, which is minimal.

Because it puts us back in control of our energy supply.

Blogger papabear October 01, 2016 3:43 PM  

Just tried to post links to Alpha Game Plan and Vox Day on a Facebook Group, got this message:

This message contains content that has been blocked by our security systems. If you think you're seeing this by mistake, please let us know.

Blogger Duke Norfolk October 01, 2016 3:44 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Nothing is going to change in the way the internet is run.

I'm very much a basic user level techie so what do I know, but I've been skeptical of all the hysteria about ICANN, etc. It just seemed to me that the notion of stopping/controlling the internet is like stopping Niagra Falls. You can interrupt things a bit, but the thing has a life of its own that will not be stopped; short of nuclear winter.

Blogger papabear October 01, 2016 4:09 PM  

More on Facebook: one can still put in the link but FB will prevent it from being posted, if it is accompanied by the Facebook preview of the link. Without the FB preview the link can be posted (for now).

I tried to post a link to a World Report article, and that got flagged as well.

Blogger papabear October 01, 2016 4:12 PM  

However, posting links to flagged content in comments to threads has been shut down. Probably because the preview is automatically included, where possible.

Anonymous Man of the Atom October 01, 2016 4:22 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Mr Rational and I disagree on a lot of things. Almost everything, as I think about it. But he is right in this. The only reasonable energy policy going forward is nuclear reactors, preferably thorium fueled.

Not because of Global warming, which is a fraud. Not because of Pollution, which is minimal.

Because it puts us back in control of our energy supply.


+1

Although the rather leftist Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists would like you to believe otherwise.

Bonus in that an end product of thorium-232 reactions is U-233 which is fissile (more reactor fuel), but it is contaminated enough with other reactor byproducts (other U isotopes) that it isn't currently viable for nuclear bomb production, unlike the U-235 fuel and Pu-239 byproducts of current uranium reactors.

Anonymous Sam Malone October 01, 2016 9:19 PM  

It is so wonderful that the assholes of the world are self-segregating. Feel free to do that in real life. Maybe all move to a small island nation somewhere.

A very small island nation.

Blogger Lazarus October 01, 2016 10:21 PM  

Sam Malone wrote:It is so wonderful that the assholes of the world are self-segregating. Feel free to do that in real life. Maybe all move to a small island nation somewhere.

A very small island nation.


So you only need one Nuke. Don't want to be extravagant

Blogger Daniel October 01, 2016 10:23 PM  

Use mate created by an argentinian dude which happens to live near here

Blogger Were-Puppy October 01, 2016 10:38 PM  

@84 Satan's Hamster
The big tech companies can't fail fast enough, as far as I'm concerned. Let the SJWs take them all down.
---

While this is happening, that manager will be sending 20 emails an hour to all his relatives he hired saying "PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL"

Anonymous Sam Malone October 01, 2016 10:53 PM  

@107: So you only need one Nuke. Don't want to be extravagant

Even that would be unnecessary. As long as they keep to themselves, no violence is warranted.

It's not like this collection of whining, white, loser males is going to reproduce. Their whole problem is they can't find anyone who will have sex with them absent coercion.

Segregate yourselves. Go away. Leave the rest of humanity to continue the progress you abhor.

Blogger Lazarus October 01, 2016 11:49 PM  

Sam Malone wrote:@107: So you only need one Nuke. Don't want to be extravagant

Even that would be unnecessary. As long as they keep to themselves, no violence is warranted.

It's not like this collection of whining, white, loser males is going to reproduce. Their whole problem is they can't find anyone who will have sex with them absent coercion.

Segregate yourselves. Go away. Leave the rest of humanity to continue the progress you abhor.


Most of the posters here are family men.
Do you have progeny? (pajama boy)

Blogger joe b October 02, 2016 6:24 AM  

Convergence concerns about systemd? I need more info on this. I thought it was just trying to emulate Sun's smf system.

Anonymous Man of the Atom October 02, 2016 7:02 AM  

joe b wrote:Convergence concerns about systemd? I need more info on this. I thought it was just trying to emulate Sun's smf system.

INIT Freedom (IF) is a response to the push by GNOME (and backed by Red Hat among others) to adopt systemd vice an INIT that sticks to *NIX principles. In the view of some, systemd breaks portability and backward compatibility.

One of many links: Devuan IF Page

Anonymous Man of the Atom October 02, 2016 7:50 AM  

At one time, GNOME made good software and tools, and users expect that that GNOME's focus remains on developing interfaces and toolkits.

Instead, this a prime focus with other diversity-in-computing initiatives, and, hey, a code of conduct.

Converged. Lot of guilt-ridden white males there.

Anonymous BGKB October 02, 2016 10:27 AM  

"Snidely Whiplash wrote:
Mr Rational and I disagree on a lot of things. Almost everything, as I think about it. But he is right in this. The only reasonable energy policy going forward is nuclear reactors, preferably thorium fueled."


Not only does thorium solve a lot of problems including the fact it can be designed to automatically shut itself down by just freezing a plug of it at the drain, but it is theoretically possible to have a home based thorium generator the size of a window air conditioner. It could even be cost effective over the life of the system especially for those who would have to pay to have power lines put up, I would be a rural revolution. The funniest part about the old working models the west made is that China doesn't seem to be able to copy them.

Of course if home thorium power generators were the size of window air conditioners you really wouldn't want blacks in your neighborhood http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.ca/2016/06/for-fifth-straight-year-black-theives.html

Anonymous SciVo October 02, 2016 6:58 PM  

Johnny wrote:Opine? Don't hear that word much.

I suspect that our dread host is, like me, using word size as a proxy for ease. It doesn't always work.

Dirtnapninja wrote:We must think the same way...any movement to the right is better than no movement to the right, and in time many small movements can build up to an irresistible momentum as logn as we keep moving rightwards.

I've heard that a microwave uses more electricity for its clock than for cooking, simply because the former is 24/7. I don't know if that's true, but it makes sense to me because we tend to underestimate the power of consistency and constancy (such as compound interest).

Anonymous SciVo October 02, 2016 7:22 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:I ended up here from the Sad Puppies.

Ditto. But I was already red-pilled from A Voice for Men via Girl Writes What and her Feminism and the Disposable Male.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot October 02, 2016 7:28 PM  

FYI -- Glenn Reynolds (aka Instapundit) is winding down his Twitter involvement ...

Washington Post --
"Why law prof Glenn Reynolds is leaving Twitter":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/09/30/why-law-prof-glenn-reynolds-is-leaving-twitter/

This is the money quote (literally as well as figuratively) for your purposes:

"But the other problem with Twitter is that it's the crystal meth of social media: Addictive, but unsatisfying. I've been spending a lot of time on it even though it doesn't make me any money, and even though I kind of doubt it has much of an impact on anything."

Solution: stop helping Twitter make any money because they sure as shit aren't helping you make any.

Blogger Owen October 03, 2016 4:01 AM  

Wow, so Twitter didn't budge in spite of all the complaints? They're morons...Anyway, congratulations on the traffic increase. This is now my "go to" site for many different kinds of commentary. And great reading suggestions. The Missionaries sounds wickedly funny (wish it was not strictly Kindle though)...and great links on the site and in the articles. I used to read Taki a lot but not so much now. Their site is riddled with ridiculous and slow ads, although the experience is much better with Brave - Thanks for that suggestion as well.....The community here on VP is great too. Take care and keep fighting the good fight.

Blogger Owen October 03, 2016 5:11 AM  

@Scivo,


"I've heard that a microwave uses more electricity for its clock than for cooking, simply because the former is 24/7. I don't know if that's true, but it makes sense to me because we tend to underestimate the power of consistency and constancy (such as compound interest)."

No. At least not with normal usage. Maybe if you never used the microwave, or used it rarely.

I notice a trend with these so called environmentalists. No longer are they satisfied with basic common sense conservation, they want us to do ridiculous crap like switch off power strips and unplug microwaves. There was an initiative to turn monitors off, which caused my entire freaking computer to freeze so I just kept it in sleep mode. Such a tiny amount of power to keep my computer running smoothly. It's worth it.

In any case, this is the Economist article that started this, it seems. http://www.economist.com/node/5571582

Jeez, doesn't the Economist have fact Checkers?
The claim has been busted on Reddit and other places. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3uv9h2/til_a_typical_microwave_oven_consumes_more/

http://www.brianodonovan.ie/2011/12/does-clock-on-my-microwave-consume-more.html

Anonymous SciVo October 03, 2016 8:36 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:The only reasonable energy policy going forward is nuclear reactors, preferably thorium fueled.

I don't even care about the fuel. It's one of the few things that he's right about.

Anonymous SciVo October 03, 2016 8:40 AM  

Owen wrote:In any case, this is the Economist article that started this, it seems. http://www.economist.com/node/5571582

Jeez, doesn't the Economist have fact Checkers?

The claim has been busted on Reddit and other places. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3uv9h2/til_a_typical_microwave_oven_consumes_more/

http://www.brianodonovan.ie/2011/12/does-clock-on-my-microwave-consume-more.html


Thank you.

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