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Monday, October 10, 2016

The doubters doubt

File 770ers respond to the announcement of Infogalactic:
Errrr, just how is Wikipedia troubled? is he conflating Wikipedia with Wikileaks which is a separate undertaking? And is he really stupid enough to think he can create an alternative to somethings that has over five million pages just in the English version?

MemoryAlpha has *just* forty thousand and its been around for over a decade.

The old Green Man Review which I run had roughly twenty thousand pages before we moved to WordPress and that took twenty years.

Fuck, this man is simply insane.
I love this stuff. In answer to her questions:
  1. Wikipedia is corrupt, incredibly outdated technologically, has betrayed its vision, is losing editors and admins at a rapid rate, and instantly reverts nearly one-third of its additions. Wikipedia's active admins have been literally decimated from the time we started working on Infogalactic; I now have more VFM than Wikipedia has active admins. Infogalactic is not an alternative to Wikipedia, Infogalactic will replace Wikipedia in the same way Facebook replaced MySpace.
  2. No.
  3. We already have 11 million pages. Infogalactic will dwarf the English Wikipedia within 18 months of Phase Three going live.
  4. Vox's First Law: any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from insanity.
Canons 1 and 7 absolutely contradict each other, which is probably why they appear at either end of the spectrum. In a way, the canons encompass the “reality” of the entire endeavor.
There is no contradiction at all. Facts are facts. But what particular facts one editor chooses to emphasize, or deemphasize, in an article permits the presentation of entirely different perspectives on the same objective reality. For example, the LA Times poll today reports that Donald Trump is winning the election. The NBC News poll today reports that Hillary Clinton is winning the election. Both reports are indubitably facts. Which fact you choose to cite depends upon your perspective and paints a very different picture.
A subjective opinion is not the same as an objective fact.

Now matter how much I try and wrap my mind around what those words mean, the result is also ways the same:

ARISTOTLE! RHETORIC!
And that is precisely why we will have Context and Opinion sub-pages in Phase Two. This negative reaction on the part of the SF-SJWs is exactly what I'd hoped to see, because it tends to confirm that we are on the right track in taking back the cultural high ground. As for those claiming we "lifted" any content, I would merely observe that we have literally the exact same right to the content that Wikipedia does. The difference is that Wikipedia's thought police are desperate to control that content and fit it to their narrative. We're not, which is why we will inevitably win.

Wikipedia has lost the Mandate of Heaven. As a result, Infogalactic is going to become a top 100 Internet site en route to becoming The Planetary Knowledge Core. And it is going to do so faster than anyone likely believes possible. And no, I'm not bored with Castalia House at all. Quite to the contrary, Infogalactic is going to help Castalia House become the #1 publisher in science fiction and fantasy.

The five-phase Roadmap is only the beginning. That is far from the entirety of our vision, that's all we're willing to discuss publicly for now. Believe me, if you think what we've said so far is outlandish, you haven't seen anything yet.


UPDATE: Breitbart readers are rather more enthusiastic:
Infogalactic, an online encyclopedia branding itself as a censorship free alternative to Wikipedia without “bias or thought police,” has launched.

The online encyclopedia that refers to itself as a “Planetary Knowledge Core™”  was conceived as a replacement for Wikipedia that promises to be free of the problems that have plagued Wikipedia such as the bureaucracy amongst editors, censorship of content, harassment, and vandalism of public figures’ pages.

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99 Comments:

OpenID simplytimothy October 10, 2016 8:35 PM  

Vox, you magnificent bastard. Infogalactic! It Yuge!

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 10, 2016 8:35 PM  

Why should anyone at File 770 even care? If they are so, so right about Wikipedia then Infogalactic has no chance and they can continue obsessing about the microagression of armpit hair or some other Rilly Important Issue.

The fact that anyone at File 770 took the time to burble over Infogalactic indicates one thing: they're afraid it will work as intended.

kek

Anonymous John October 10, 2016 8:38 PM  

I don't like the name though. It's too heavily sci-fi. Need a more broadly appealing name.

Blogger VD October 10, 2016 8:39 PM  

The fact that anyone at File 770 took the time to burble over Infogalactic indicates one thing: they're afraid it will work as intended.

Of course they are. They saw what I did to the Hugos. And Wikipedia is vastly more vulnerable than the Hugos ever were. Believe it or not, Infogalactic to date has cost a fraction of what the Puppies spent on the Hugo campaign.

So, if you're a Puppy, get in there and support it! I can assure you this is going to be ORDERS of magnitude more glorious than the Hugo campaigns were.

Blogger VD October 10, 2016 8:41 PM  

I don't like the name though. It's too heavily sci-fi. Need a more broadly appealing name.

It doesn't need anything of the sort. As you will see.

Blogger Melampus the Seer October 10, 2016 8:49 PM  

The left have a huge blind spot to problems in the status quo. They are always surprised when institutions collapse under the weight of pretty lies.

Anonymous Faceless October 10, 2016 8:51 PM  

@3

It's danceable.

Blogger KJ October 10, 2016 8:51 PM  

Skol. The battle over information will be won by those who can still observer reality.

Blogger  Incognomen October 10, 2016 8:52 PM  

I was rolling my eyes every time you talked about forking Wikipedia on the assumption that it would be a Conservopedia style flop. But Infogalactic seems like a really interesting model with a shot of actually suceeding. I clearly misunderestimated you and/or the people working with you.

Blogger Alexander October 10, 2016 8:55 PM  

I love this place. The gods of kek are forever smiling upon it.

Anonymous John October 10, 2016 8:57 PM  

Conservapedia is awesome. So is Metapedia. Because they aren't worried about appearing neutral or unbiased, they can actually criticise popular assumptions, whereas a neutral encyclopedia will always be more or less a slave to the prevailing consensus.

Anonymous Mr. Rational October 10, 2016 9:00 PM  

Meh.  All this stuff going on, and I'm still waiting for my gab invite so I can catch the news early.

Sure would be nice if you could submit your e-mail and see how far the queue has moved.

Anonymous Peter Blood October 10, 2016 9:01 PM  

Good work, hail victory!

Blogger VD October 10, 2016 9:01 PM  

I was rolling my eyes every time you talked about forking Wikipedia on the assumption that it would be a Conservopedia style flop. But Infogalactic seems like a really interesting model with a shot of actually suceeding. I clearly misunderestimated you and/or the people working with you.

That's a fair reaction. The thing is, if you look at my career, the one thing that stands out is that my vision for the tech future usually comes to pass eventually and something similar to my designs usually shows up. My problem has never been the vision, but the execution and production. Where I've improved over time is finding more, and more capable, partners to execute and produce, and staying out of their way.

And the core Infogalactic team is not merely good, they are scary good.

Anonymous John October 10, 2016 9:02 PM  

Let's compare.

Infogalactic article on feminism:

Feminism is a range of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

Feminist movements have campaigned and continue to campaign for women's rights, including the right to vote, to hold public office, to work, to earn fair wages or equal pay, to own property, to education, to enter contracts, to have equal rights within marriage, and to have maternity leave. Feminists have also worked to promote bodily autonomy and integrity, and to protect women and girls from rape, sexual harassment, and domestic violence.


Conservapedia article on feminism:

Feminism is an ideology that causes an alienation in affection by women for men. Feminism denies or downplays differences between men and women, feminism opposes homemaking, child-rearing, and homeschooling by women, and feminism promotes participation by women in predominantly male activities. Most prominent modern feminists support abortion.

Attributes common to many feminists include an entitlement mentality and a bit of an attitude, such as a "chip on one's shoulder" despite benefiting from a life of privilege.

On a personal level feminism can disrupt marriages, relationships, child-rearing, education and the workplace. The feminist ideology is particularly dominant in elite universities, many large corporations, and competitive women's team sports.

Feminism was originally an expression used by suffragettes - who were predominantly pro-life[1][2][3]- to obtain the right for women to vote in the early 1900s in the United States and the United Kingdom. By the 1970s, however, liberals had changed the meaning to represent people who favored abortion and identical roles or quotas for women in the military and in society as a whole. Today, some feminists are enforcers of liberal censorship and political correctness, at the expense of free speech.


Sounds like Infogalactic has already been "converged".

Blogger Benjamin Kraft October 10, 2016 9:04 PM  

@9 "misunderestimated"? Umn...

@10 Truth.

@11 Neither of them will victimize wikipedia the way it's begging to be though, because neither has the ideological leverage necessary, unlike IG.

Anonymous #8601 October 10, 2016 9:12 PM  

In the words of Cernovich, they are SHOOK!!

Blogger macengr October 10, 2016 9:15 PM  

InfoGalactic, Gab, etc.
It's an exciting time! Thanks Vox!

Anonymous BGKB October 10, 2016 9:15 PM  

I don't like the name though. It's too heavily sci-fi.

Yet no offered better suggestion, not even wikiwiki

Anonymous #3920993994445 October 10, 2016 9:18 PM  

And all the VFM said AMEN!

Blogger Benjamin Kraft October 10, 2016 9:19 PM  

To be fair to the name InfoGalactic, most people upon learning about wikipedia for the first time, immediately asked "what's a wiki though?"

In the sense of intuitiveness, InfoGalactic is a much more intuitive name than wikipedia was or is.

Anonymous Hoots October 10, 2016 9:23 PM  

Looks like only Paypal is accepted. That's a bummer.

Blogger VD October 10, 2016 9:24 PM  

Looks like only Paypal is accepted. That's a bummer.

We'll work on more options soon.

Anonymous Hoots October 10, 2016 9:26 PM  

For Subscriptions: "You need a PayPal account for this purchase"

Maybe this is temporary?

Anonymous Hoots October 10, 2016 9:27 PM  

Got it.

Blogger Unknown October 10, 2016 9:41 PM  

Tech note: As of 5 minutes ago, some of the mediawiki default install home page stuff is still there, might want to send someone in to tweak or delete it.

Blogger Matt October 10, 2016 9:42 PM  

And is he really stupid enough to think he can create an alternative to somethings that has over five million pages just in the English version?

One of the positive things about Wikipedia is that it's open source licensed - literally anyone can copy the entire thing and have all five million pages for their own use. They can toss the crap and keep the good, if they wish. Essentially all the good labor done for Wikipedia is by default also done for InfoGalactic.

Blogger Lazarus October 10, 2016 9:43 PM  

I don't like the name though. It's too heavily sci-fi.

Duh! It is obviously designated as such to inspire input from more than just the immediate planet.

Blogger Ken Prescott October 10, 2016 9:53 PM  

Deplorapedia?

Blogger buwaya October 10, 2016 9:58 PM  

Your infogalactic.com page looks like its being hammered.

Blogger Nate October 10, 2016 9:59 PM  

I don't have a discus account and am not going to create one... but there is a lot of false information in the breitbart comments about how IG works.

Blogger buwaya October 10, 2016 10:02 PM  

OK got through. Looking for Eugen of Savoy

Blogger buwaya October 10, 2016 10:09 PM  

Both Wiki and Info come up with Gene Savoy, not disambiguation.
Still, both link at the top to the proper Eugene.

Works very much like Wiki!

I would check out performance though.

Anonymous Stickwick October 10, 2016 10:10 PM  

John: I don't like the name though. It's too heavily sci-fi. Need a more broadly appealing name.

What are you, some kind of communist? It's a great name.

Blogger Silly But True October 10, 2016 10:10 PM  

It may be a bit gimmicky but to help widen its appeal, Infogalactic should be sure to have a cute, innocuous character like a spacebunny as its "Infogal" spokeswoman.

Silly But True

Blogger Anonymous-9 October 10, 2016 10:14 PM  

InfoGalactic is Sid-approved as a name. Can't wait to get on there.

Blogger buwaya October 10, 2016 10:20 PM  

Interestingly formatting isn't identical vs Wiki, at least on Chrome.
Not a problem as such. Prince Eugene has a variant painting in Info, interesting. Someone editing already?

Anonymous Ironsides October 10, 2016 10:40 PM  

Stickwick wrote:John: I don't like the name though. It's too heavily sci-fi. Need a more broadly appealing name.

What are you, some kind of communist? It's a great name.


Agreed. It's a name of vision, and it doesn't use a stupid-sounding non-European word in it. "Wikipedia" is nothing but a declaration of the creators' worship of brown.

The name is superb. And I'm now using it in place of that other thing.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau October 10, 2016 10:46 PM  

Gordon R.Dickson's Final Encyclopedia is birthed

Blogger Jack Ward October 10, 2016 11:15 PM  

InfoGalactic:
The title will resonate with the Aliens when they land/reveal themselves. Might even speed up the process.
The Encyclopedia Galactica of Foundation may be upon us.
That assumed, then, Vox might take up the mantle of First Speaker.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar October 10, 2016 11:27 PM  

Singularity yet?

Anonymous aegis-1080 October 10, 2016 11:33 PM  

Just not having to deal with socially stunted guys like Ryulong is a plus.

Blogger Nick S October 10, 2016 11:37 PM  

SJWs don't seem to grasp the importance of what is taking place right in front of their eyes. It would be astonishing if I didn't know their pathological inclinations.

Anonymous Dave October 10, 2016 11:49 PM  

Please be sure to get the Infogalactic Support and Safety Team up and running as soon as possible.

https://motherboard.vice.com/read/wikipedia-editor-says-sites-toxic-community-has-him-contemplating-suicide

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 11, 2016 12:05 AM  

buwaya wrote:Someone editing already?

Have a look at the pages for John Scalzi, Milo, Gab, Vox Day, Castalia House, Brave, Cernovich, #Gamergate...

Blogger hank.jim October 11, 2016 12:16 AM  

The name isn't the issue. It has to show up first in any search engine. That's what Wikipedia has.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 11, 2016 12:32 AM  

Infogalactic historical tidbit. On the day of its first Press Release, the largest number of external links directly to Infogalactic articles was on this blog post at File770. http://file770.com/?p=31204

Harambe, Pepe, Kek. Yeah.

Blogger Robert Coble October 11, 2016 12:40 AM  

Kudos! Just made a quick trip to Infogalactic and did a search - GOOD! Thank you to Vox and all those techies who have made this a reality. Quoting Benjamin Franklin:

“Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing.”

Anonymous Jack Amok October 11, 2016 12:48 AM  

One of the positive things about Wikipedia is that it's open source licensed - literally anyone can copy the entire thing and have all five million pages for their own use.

Yeah, about that... a couple of days ago I clicked on a link that took me to Wikipedia and there was a big banner announcing a vote or discussion on whether Wikipedia content should continue as Open Source.

It's gone now, but IG spooked 'em.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2016 12:50 AM  

Unknown wrote:Tech note: As of 5 minutes ago, some of the mediawiki default install home page stuff is still there, might want to send someone in to tweak or delete it.
Better Tech Note; If you're going to submit a QA deficiency report 1) do it in the right venue and 2) include actual descriptions, or better, links to the items you're complaining about. I'm not privy to the programming effort, but I think I can safely guarantee that they do not have time to go searching for "some of the mediawiki default install home page stuff".

Blogger residentMoron October 11, 2016 12:51 AM  

@hank.jim

That's what they have TODAY. But IG is going to take it off them, and not by passing their donations to Google like WP does, but simply by being better.

The #Trumpslide is coming.

Wikipedia, ask not for whom the Trumpslide cometh; it comes for thee.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2016 12:55 AM  

The real problem they have understanding IG is they actually believe all the consensus, committee, community bafflegab that Wiki is built on is the only way to build a crowd-sourced knowledge base.

They believe in the project and don't see any way it could be different. They think you're going to try to edit all the information by hand, cause if you don't they will co-opt it. They simply don't understand the idea of presenting multiple points of view. It's simply outside their understanding that one could do such a thing.

Anonymous Crew October 11, 2016 12:56 AM  

@44: Also the page on Twitter, the page on Trump, Hillary maybe, and many others.

If anyone sees any problems, send email to Crew@infogalactic.com and I can see what I can do about them.

Blogger Farnarkel of OZ October 11, 2016 1:02 AM  

The Wikipedia page in Infogalactic should be a hoot

Anonymous Crew October 11, 2016 1:22 AM  

No wonder Bruce Jenner is so confused. His father and paternal grandparents are from Canada!

Anonymous Rolf October 11, 2016 1:50 AM  

On of the comments on the 770 post was by Seorae and is very good. Seorae seems to have a much deeper appreciation for the reality of InfoGalactic than the rest of the humbuggers, who find even things so simple as the cannons confusing, let alone the understructure. Astute observations, well-stated.

Anonymous map October 11, 2016 2:23 AM  

OT:

http://www.infowars.com/clinton-campaign-email-outlines-effort-to-produce-an-unaware-and-compliant-citizenry/

Fascinating link. Bill Ivey arguing that people have to be kept like dumb sheep

Blogger Shimshon October 11, 2016 3:02 AM  

I like the name. It has a very HHGTTG ring to it. When more features are in place, a video demoing the various bits would be useful.

Blogger Shimshon October 11, 2016 3:06 AM  

The comments are really informative. It's clear that many heads are exploding.

Blogger tublecane October 11, 2016 3:19 AM  

"ARISTOTLE! RHETORIC!"

I don't know what they think is effective about this, rhetorically. There was one guy at work who made fun of me once for reading Aristotle's "Politics." Maybe it'd work on him.

There was this other guy I knew who couldn't stop bringing up Nietzsche. For which I occasionally mocked him. But I never simply yelled "NIETZSCHE! ANTICHRIST!" out of context. Internet people have got to get smarter at mockery. It's embarrassing.

Anonymous SpinradsAgent October 11, 2016 3:24 AM  

Look, the 770er response to this is exactly the same as the idiots who when email/the internet landed on their horizon in the 1980s and 90s scoffed. I know, because I saw idiots like this on a weekly basis telling me that nobody would use it.

Second, aren't sci-fi futurists meant to be a little more savvy about, well, the future and science? Anyone with half a brain will take one look at Infogalactic and either wet themselves with excitement or poop themselves in fear. That the 770er doubters have gone for the latter speaks volumes.

By the time these idiots have fidgeted out of their intellectual diapers we are going to be so far out of sight we won't even smell their shit.

I honestly don't know, Vox Day, how you stop yourself from laughing. Maybe you don't, but I'm grinning like the Cheshire Cat here.

You are marvelous. A marvelous bastard.

Blogger tublecane October 11, 2016 3:35 AM  

I noticed more and more the "I don't get it ploy" of leftists. They're supposed to be the intellectuals, and they'd like everyone else to believe that they don't understand us because we're too stupid to make sense. So it's all about "can't wrap my mind around" this and "he *probably* means" that. Lots of "probably," "possibly," "seems," etc.

Years past I may have taken them at their word. But the seven canons are easy to read. You may disagree with them or think them foolish, but not understanding them would mean either you're stupid or you're reading them in bad faith. But it's neither, because they do understand them. SJWs always lie, as a book cover once told me.

Sorta like the flurry of journalists I witnessed pretending not to comprehend Trump's tweets about that Venezuelan slut. About the sex tape, they say, "Trump seems to be talking about an excerpt from a foreign Big Brother episode," blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that is what he's talking about, and you know it. Just because you've been told not to report on it doesn't mean you don't know it exists.

Anonymous Ain October 11, 2016 3:52 AM  

"1) Infogalactic does not define reality.
2) Infogalactic is written from an objective point of view.

Don’t Canon 1 and Canon 2 contradict each other?"



The first idiot out of the gate confused objective with subjective.

Anonymous IndecisiveEvidence October 11, 2016 4:00 AM  

File770 is quickly becoming the VD fanblog. Amazing.

Anonymous Down and Out in... October 11, 2016 4:06 AM  

I have absolutely no idea whose dog is tuffer in this here durn fight, but I gotta say, I always love a dog who has more fight. And plus, Wikipedia is full of persons which I have axes to grind wiff.

Onya, team VD/Infogalactic/Whatever the f!ck yer callin' yerselves. Get some.

Blogger Ron October 11, 2016 4:26 AM  

There is a world of difference between this and Hugos.

The Hugos were the equivalent of righteously bitch slapping a fat bully in high school. This is the equivalent of discovering a cure for cancer. Yes, that important. Maybe more if effectively done.

Global access to reliable information is something whose importance cannot be understated.

Blogger Ron October 11, 2016 4:27 AM  

Aheh. I should have written "overstated"

Blogger Sagramore October 11, 2016 4:52 AM  

So now remember to type phrase infog instead of wiki.

Anonymous dagwood October 11, 2016 4:54 AM  

Just for the record, I think it's fan-f!cking-tastic that there's a guy here who a) can't tell the difference between "understated" and "overstated," then b) realizes his mistake and THEN goes back personally to correct it, then c) corrects himself in real time, -- this is the very definition of personal honor!, folks!

Blogger Kona Commuter October 11, 2016 5:05 AM  

^^^ @Osoto_Gari ^^^^ on #GAB

Anonymous SciVo October 11, 2016 5:49 AM  

Ain wrote:"1) Infogalactic does not define reality.

2) Infogalactic is written from an objective point of view.

Don’t Canon 1 and Canon 2 contradict each other?"


The first idiot out of the gate confused objective with subjective.


It's really phenomenological, in that there's an objective reality that we're each attempting to subjectively describe from our individual mortal perspectives.

Anonymous SciVo October 11, 2016 6:02 AM  

Another one of those very Catholic concepts like subsidiarity that I like so much.

Blogger FSL October 11, 2016 6:23 AM  

"Where I've improved over time is finding more, and more capable, partners to execute and produce, and staying out of their way."

Perhaps this points to the best way we can avoid calling you Vox RR Day: you may need some Silvanuses, Sosthenes and Timothys to help you execute that vision too.

Anonymous Reader October 11, 2016 6:49 AM  

Laudable effort.

We were having a walk by the creek and my son talked about the flow of water which was counter-intuitive. He mentioned hydraulic jump. So a good time to try infogalactic.

Found it alright, but noticed that when I opened a link from the "hydraulic jump" page found through infogalactic it took longer than when done directly through wiki. 10 seconds longer. I did it a few times.

The comment earlier was spot on. I used chrome to search for hj and wiki showed up first. I mean it's quicker to use Google if your looking for something because you have to know that infogalactic exists at all to be of use to you.

I compared the page on both infog and wiki and didn't find any difference except the disambiguation and citation verification notes in the box on the page gotten through infogalactic.

What's with opinion and context as innovative feature of infogalactic regarding searches on science.

Just my observation , for what it's worth

Anonymous RabidRatel October 11, 2016 7:40 AM  

@72
I have Infogalactic as the first bookmark on my bookmark bar (in Chrome - Yeah, i know but it is enough that I sneaked Chrome past the gatekeepers at work)

Anonymous Ivan Throne October 11, 2016 7:48 AM  

VD: That's a fair reaction. The thing is, if you look at my career, the one thing that stands out is that my vision for the tech future usually comes to pass eventually and something similar to my designs usually shows up. My problem has never been the vision, but the execution and production. Where I've improved over time is finding more, and more capable, partners to execute and produce, and staying out of their way.

A man with grand vision who consistenty focuses on honing his execution and production can eventually seize the world by the throat. This is the root from which massive success grows.

Blogger VD October 11, 2016 10:12 AM  

Found it alright, but noticed that when I opened a link from the "hydraulic jump" page found through infogalactic it took longer than when done directly through wiki. 10 seconds longer. I did it a few times.

All of these things will be addressed over time. We're making no claims to be operationally superior to Wikipedia... yet.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey October 11, 2016 10:58 AM  

Metapedia is OK, but has only 12K or so entries, and many are only lightly edited from wikipedia. Take a look at the metapedia main page some time, though: 140K+ entries in Magyar. Must be a lot of based Hungarians out there.

Blogger Austin Ballast October 11, 2016 11:34 AM  

The File 770 people must be pretty dull people if they only have 1 thing going at a time. They are not creative at all.

Vox is far more productive than I am, but I can't imagine a world where I only did 1 thing at a time.

Blogger Mom October 11, 2016 11:55 AM  

I love this. But since I use Bing to search the infog thing does not work yet.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2016 12:08 PM  

tublecane wrote:I noticed more and more the "I don't get it ploy" of leftists. They're supposed to be the intellectuals, and they'd like everyone else to believe that they don't understand us because we're too stupid to make sense. So it's all about "can't wrap my mind around" this and "he *probably* means" that. Lots of "probably," "possibly," "seems," etc.

They really can't get it. It's not a ploy. Not because they are necessarily dumb. They have a stop in their brains about certain subjects. Thinking about things in the wrong way physically hurts them. So, for instance, thinking "Hmmm, looks like Vox Day, the demonic enemy of all that is holy, has a clever idea about how to replace Wikipedia" is literally unthinkable. Vax is Bad, and Stupid and Always Wrong. If Vox is not Always Wrong, then maybe they have to listen to him when he says something. If they have to listen to him, then they will have to address what Vox Day says about them and their friends, That might lead to the realization that he's right about them. Ant that is so threatening that they can't abide it. So they are literally unable to think Vox is right about anything.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2016 12:14 PM  

Ron wrote:The Hugos were the equivalent of righteously bitch slapping a fat bully in high school. This is the equivalent of discovering a cure for cancer. Yes, that important. Maybe more if effectively done.


More like taking out that creepy teacher with Justin Bieber posters in the back of the room that likes to look up girls' skirts and spends way too much time in the boy's locker room.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 11, 2016 12:26 PM  

@3 John
I don't like the name though. It's too heavily sci-fi. Need a more broadly appealing name.
---

Really? I suppose you found Google, Yahoo, Wiki, Twitter, and Facebook very appealing.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 11, 2016 12:28 PM  

@4 VD
So, if you're a Puppy, get in there and support it! I can assure you this is going to be ORDERS of magnitude more glorious than the Hugo campaigns were.
---

I'm sending out Tweets a couple times a day, including gab and brave. I only have around 500 followers but some of them retweet and hopefully it will help people to MIGA - MAKE INTERNET GREAT AGAIN

Blogger Feather Blade October 11, 2016 2:02 PM  

Reader wrote:I mean it's quicker to use Google if your looking for something because you have to know that infogalactic exists at all to be of use to you.

As long a IG is linked by a bunch of pages that a lot of much-linked pages link to, Google's algorithms will slowly sort it higher in the results.

At least according to some PBS program I watched. Who knows whether Google told them the truth.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 11, 2016 2:25 PM  

"File 770ers respond to the announcement of Infogalactic"

Heh. A Bing search on "Infogalactic" shows the Breitbart article first, the File770 post second, and finally the Infogalactic website itself third.

Whatever they say about it, at least they're driving more traffic to it....

Anonymous WaterBoy October 11, 2016 2:31 PM  

Shimshon @57: "I like the name. It has a very HHGTTG ring to it."

It immediately brought to mind Asimov's Encyclopedia Galactica, to me.

In a SF world, the name fits.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 11, 2016 2:34 PM  

...or rather, I should say Encyclopedia Galactica

Blogger The Kurgan October 11, 2016 3:04 PM  

John,
Shut up. Go build it yourself and then you can call it what you like. Moron.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2016 4:55 PM  

Feather Blade wrote:As long a IG is linked by a bunch of pages that a lot of much-linked pages link to, Google's algorithms will slowly sort it higher in the results.
Not necessarily true. I know for a fact that Google's presentation algorithm is designed to present Wikipedia within the first 3 results, regardless of where it falls within the search algorithm results, if there is an article on or close to the topic.

Blogger James Dixon October 11, 2016 4:56 PM  

> It immediately brought to mind Asimov's Encyclopedia Galactica, to me.

I thought of "The Final Encyclopedia" myself.

Blogger Keith Glass October 11, 2016 5:56 PM  

Tried an experiment today. Was posting on Slashdot, and used an Infogalactic link on Niven/Pournelle/Barnes' "Fallen Angels".

No comments. . .

Blogger weka October 11, 2016 11:37 PM  

@90. I was trying to fing the filk about proxmire from Fallen Angels today. The days when Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner was a good cover to start a session.

To my horror, the denizens of File 770 are fishing through even obscure parts of the Orthosphere, though I did link back to their quotes. http://file770.com/?p=31246

Blogger weka October 11, 2016 11:38 PM  

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Blogger JLanceCombs October 12, 2016 1:43 AM  

Them stating that 1 and 7 are contradictory are the same as saying that only accepting externally verifiable facts is a form of "creating reality". In other words, it means they believe in sources of evidence other than objective facts being legitimate. I already knew, but they have flat out stated now, that they are postmodernist relativists and essentially don't believe in reality or fact, only in experience. This invalidates nearly everything they ever say, since, even in their own minds, it's all mutable.

Blogger JLanceCombs October 12, 2016 1:44 AM  

Just wanted to point out that there seems to be a compatibility problem with Brave. I switched to Edge to post.

Anonymous Miso Hawny October 12, 2016 8:34 AM  

@53 As will the InfoGalactic page in Wikipedia

Anonymous Avalanche October 12, 2016 9:16 AM  

"As a result, Infogalactic is going to become a top 100 Internet site en route to becoming The Planetary Knowledge Core."

And, alas, Professor River Song ("archeologist") will be CGI-entombed therein. {sob}

Anonymous Avalanche October 12, 2016 9:18 AM  

@2 "they can continue obsessing about the microagression of armpit hair or, like, some other Rilly Important Issue?"

FIFY: you left off the question maaaark?

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