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Sunday, October 30, 2016

Those independents sure decide fast!

Amazing how these "undecideds" suddenly make up their minds with such rapidity and decisiveness after such a long period of indecision:
Donald Trump has wiped out Hillary Clinton's comfortable lead, with the Democratic candidate dropping in the polls just 11 days before the election. Clinton now leads by just two points with 47 per cent to Trump's 45 according to the poll put together by ABC and The Washington Post. At the start of the week, she held a comfortable advantage over her opponent with 50 to his 38.
These were polls carried out BEFORE the FBI announced it was reopening emails investigation. The truth is that Hillary never had a 12-point lead over Trump or anyone else. It was nothing more than the usual attempt to manage public opinion by the mainstream media.

Of course, they have to dial back their attempts right before the election in order to retain their credibility for the next time. Hence the "late-breaking independents" and "undecideds making up their minds". As Scott Adams said over a month ago, no one is undecided about Hillary Clinton; she's been a public figure for nearly 30 years.

Zerohedge notes a key admission in the way the latest poll was conducted. "Changes in the poll’s latest four nights compared with the previous four are not mainly about people shifting in their candidate preference, but about changes in who’s intending to vote."

Translation: the oft-heard narrative about late-deciding independents tightening the polls is a false one.

Zerohedge also observes two more relevant facts: "Ironically, these new results do not reflect the latest FBI bombshell as polling was concluded on October 27th and it still includes an 8-point sampling advantage for democrats."

It is still true that the state polls in the battleground states are the important ones. But the known unknown there is the extent to which they have been manipulated in the same way.

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62 Comments:

Blogger Otto Lamp October 30, 2016 8:12 AM  

A significant majority (I'll peg it at 60%) have known for a year they do not want Hillary.

What many of them aren't sure of is if it is OK to vote for Trump. That has been Hillary's entire campaign for a month: make people feel it is not OK to vote Trump.

Once in the voting booth, they will have to make a decision. I suspect (just as in 1980) their revulsion of the Democrat candidate will take precedence over their uneasiness with the Republican candidate.

Or, to put it another way, they will think:

Trump: heck no.
Hillary: hell no fucking way!

I think the undecided will go with "heck no" over "hell no fucing way!"

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 30, 2016 8:17 AM  

Consider IBD/TIPP poll, often called "the most accurate poll of the 2012 presidential election". Yesterday Clinton was up 4. Today she is up 2, losing 2 points overnight in the first day of sampling after the FBI news. But the internals are interesting. Their raw data this morning, unweighted, was:

335 Democrats
375 Republicans
312 Independents

They re-weighted that sample to this:
379 Dems
311 Repubs
322 Independents.

So, they took a R+ sample and reweighted it to about a D+6 sample. The 2012 election was only D+4, so what are they basing the idea that the electorate this year will be an even greater D turnout? Not the Primaries, which was R+1.

And with a heavy D+ advantage, Hillary is only up 2? That doesn't sound promising for her.

Curious also that their sample the last 8 or 9 days has always returned a R+ advantage in the raw data (perhaps Repubs are just more likely to answer the phone.) But they keep reweighted it to a heavier D+ advantage. They are also underweighting Independents, making them even less that Repubs in some samples. But according to both Pew and Gallup, Indies are a bigger percentage of the electorate than either Dems or Repubs.

I am convinced that much of modern polling is more pollster opinion than an accurate reflection of the electorate.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-poll/

Blogger Johnny October 30, 2016 8:29 AM  

Just to agree: the same pattern of poll manipulation occurs over and over. Time to get it down that polls are an effort to drive public opinion, not report on it. It is the bandwagon effect. Part of the method of public manipulation is to get people to hide their opinions because they think others do not agree. Or they sell the public on the idea that certain opinions are evil. Routine stuff actually. They do it in a lot of areas.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 30, 2016 8:32 AM  

ABC had Clinton up 8-9% on October 26. Her lead was down to 2-3% by the 29th. And we are supposed to take these polls seriously?

Blogger Anchorman October 30, 2016 8:36 AM  

Zerohwdge also notes the manipulation of "trending" topics. Somehow, FBIemails isn't trending despite it being received as a bombshell by the media.

I'm a little surprised the media outlets are correcting their polls. I figured they would go "all in" and let demographics win future elections.

Unless they fear she will definitely lose and he will definitely do something about legal and illegal immigration.

Blogger Rick October 30, 2016 8:37 AM  

Saw this on LinkedIn this morning. Nice young lady conducted her own poll. She asked just one question -- who are you voting for:

Total comments- 612
Misc comments- 127

Total 'votes'- 485
Trump- 449
Hillary- 17
Johnson- 11
Pedro- 8

Someone from almost every state has commented with the exception of 5 or 6. Random and unscientific :)

Anonymous Cinco October 30, 2016 8:45 AM  

OT thought of my morning. What is better than prosecuting a presidential candidate? Prosecuting POTUS herself.

Blogger scottb October 30, 2016 8:45 AM  

Member cruzs lead?

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 30, 2016 8:45 AM  

This one is coming down to an enthusiasm gap.

Hillary's people just don't like, trust or want her.

I think their internal polls must be nothing short of terrifying because they are acting terrified.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 30, 2016 8:50 AM  

This has the potential to be very fun as the establishment's bubble of delusion is pricked. Silent newscasters and pundits unable to react as early results show Trump outperforming in the red states, taking a rust belt state or two or three, the desperation as they and the cucks hope for a miracle out west, maybe the loss of Texas, see their hopes dashed. The cucks either lash out in anger or try to do damage control, arguing that it was the better outcome after all. Leftists froth at the mouth, say it is a sign of ugliness in American culture, last gasp of white men, etc., threaten to leave the US, advocate violence, a coup, secession. The next morning markets crash as (((wall street))) panics at the thought of not having the candidate they bought in office. Trump appears on TV beaming and accepts his victory as a clear mandate, no words of reconciliation, repeats pledge to build wall and jail Hillary.

Hey, no harm in dreaming.

Blogger Cicatrizatic October 30, 2016 8:56 AM  

New York Times poll of FL, just released this morning, has Trump +4

Blogger YIH October 30, 2016 9:09 AM  

Also, due to early/by mail voting, more than a few already have cast their ballot and my be doing what used to call 'exit polling'.

Blogger Keith Glass October 30, 2016 9:12 AM  

It also helps when the polls stop over-sampling Democrats by 8 or more points. . .

Blogger Shimshon October 30, 2016 9:23 AM  

What I find especially disappointing is how various commentators (who are not even NeverTrumpers) have bought the whole Trump loses in a landslide meme even though they (1) know the media lies and manipulates and (2) they are intelligent enough to be able to read the polls' fine print to see the rat laid out clearly, let alone smell it. People like Scott Adams (who has endorsed Trump twice now) and Mike Shedlock, among more than a few others. Adams is especially bad in this regard because of the deep knowledge he likes to portray himself possessing on manipulation and persuasion. I've also seen a few friends and friends of friends (Trump voters) moan about Trump's "inevitable" loss, while claiming, with totally strait faces, that "anyone" besides Trump would've done better against Hillary (including Romney). No doubt, all of them, if they do change their tunes, will ascribe all polling changes to the FBI October Surprise, even though polling clearly proves otherwise. MPAI.

If Hillary's victory were truly inevitable, Comey would not have done what he did until after the election.

Anonymous Godfrey October 30, 2016 9:25 AM  

Start with the premise that everything the MSM is telling you is a lie. Then work your way towards the truth from there.

Anonymous Wyrd October 30, 2016 9:26 AM  

Member cruzs lead?

Give me the delegates, Dahnald! I want my delegates!

Blogger Robert What? October 30, 2016 9:39 AM  

I think the FBI "bombshell" is being overrated by Republicans. At this point Hillary supporters just don't care. Bill Maher probably reflects their attitude when he tellingly quipped that he wouldn't care even if they discovered Jon Benet Ramsey in Hillary's basement.

Blogger Nick S October 30, 2016 9:44 AM  

If Clinton is elected, nobody will ever know the truth. The obfuscation machinery that will be put in place, for all practical purposes, will be impenetrable. If your a fan of knowing the truth, whatever it might be, electing Trump is the only way to get at it.

Anonymous Kolya October 30, 2016 9:49 AM  

Impossible to believe that pollsters do not sample on the various economic strata ($0>$10,000 etc.) and the proportion of people in each strata.

Anonymous Cmate October 30, 2016 9:51 AM  

People on the fence may very well be swayed. Her die hard supporters would vote for her if she set their kids on fire.

Blogger Anchorman October 30, 2016 9:54 AM  

The Comey bombshell may or may not turn into something.

The news doesn't affect Hillary voters.

It does affect late voters. That's why the Dems are pissed.

The early seeding of Crooked Hillary pays off.

As much as I shake my head at things he says, Trunp's instincts on where to strike and message have been really good.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 9:56 AM  

I agree that Independents are part of the "poll magic" we are all subjected to during our quadrennial dance of stupidity, but I would also add that some undecideds are people who use that to conveniently mask from pollsters what their actual preferences are.

@17 Ordinarily, I would tend to agree with you. The problem is that their own cognitive dissonance is founded on the FBI clearing her back in July.

That is the "reason" that they gave to back-fill their emotional decision to all their friends and family: "Well, it's a big nothingburger, the FBI cleared her."

Now, the FBI has taken that away. No one WANTS to seem irrational to themselves or to their friends/family/coworkers. If they don't reverse the decision, as the FBI has done, then they can't escape their irrationality. This makes them very uncomfortable. So uncomfortable that they look physically ill when confronted with it. Many of these will not vote, some will switch votes or vote for Jill Stein.

Blogger Otto Lamp October 30, 2016 9:57 AM  

@17. Robert What?,

You're right, Hillary supporters don't care.

But, Hillary supporters (the don't care kind) only account for about 40% of the electorate. The rest of the voters Hillary needs to get over 50% do care.

Plus, Trump is eating away at her base. Union members, blacks, etc..., people that have reflexively voted Democrat in the past are voting Trump. I suspect her 40% loyal-dem base is closer to 35%.

Anonymous Type 5 October 30, 2016 9:57 AM  

I think the FBI "bombshell" is being overrated by Republicans. At this point Hillary supporters just don't care.

That is my thought as well. Yet, the establishment is clearly rattled. It's the possibility of Comey going off the reservation and actually prosecuting the corrupt that has them shitting their pants.

Blogger Otto Lamp October 30, 2016 10:03 AM  

@18. Nick S: "If Clinton is elected, nobody will ever know the truth."

I disagree. I Clinton is elected, these probes will continue to be in the spotlight; you might even see a special prosecutor. If she loses, they will fade into the background as the country moves forward with Trump.

Which is why I think Obama was behind this. These probes were starting to pull him in (email, Bob Cramer link). If Hillary loses, Obama (on his last day in office) can issue an blanket pardon to everyone involved and the issues will fade away.

Do you think he can issue a pardon to Hillary just before she becomes president? No, not even Obama would do that.

Obama needs Hillary to lose to keep HIS name out of the criminal spotlight.

Blogger pyrrhus October 30, 2016 10:06 AM  

On Brexit and the brilliant Dominic Cummings, a must read...http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2016/10/how-brexit-was-won-and-unreasonable.html

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 10:12 AM  

I think they've been hearing a lot of people say for months now, "I haven't voted since Reagan/Bush1, but I'm voting for Trump this time," and they've been rolling their eyes, thinking "We'll believe it when we see it," and tossing most of those people out. Now they're starting to realize those people just might be serious, and putting more of them in the "likely voter" category.

In addition to the actual fraud, of course.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 10:17 AM  

So, they took a R+ sample and reweighted it to about a D+6 sample.

A few days ago, DH told us that they have no choice but to oversample Democrats and try to adjust for it, because Republicans don't like to talk to pollsters. Sounded reasonable. Yet here, they by some miracle got a Republican-heavy sample, so what do they do? Immediately adjust it to Democrat-heavy! It's almost like there's a pattern here.

Blogger SemiSpook37 October 30, 2016 10:20 AM  

Obama needs Hillary to lose to keep HIS name out of the criminal spotlight.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. His dumb ass is getting dragged into this regardless of what he wants.

Get the popcorn ready. It's going to be a glorious shitshow.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 10:23 AM  

I think the FBI "bombshell" is being overrated by Republicans. At this point Hillary supporters just don't care.

They wouldn't care if she were caught on video roasting a baby on a spit. It still matters because there are Republicans and independents still clinging to the "they both suck so I don't have to choose" narrative.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 30, 2016 10:28 AM  

I think the pollsters are having an "oh shit" moment. AT this point in the election, they have to ask their respondents if they've voted yet, and they're seeing YUUUUUGE turnout for Trump poor turnout for Hillary.

Their turnout models just puked up their guts and died.

The only choice now is to reweight based on actual turnout patterns.

Where's dh when you need (to mock) him?

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 10:29 AM  

Hillary would torch Obama's ass in a second if it benefited her, just as he would hers. If she wins and pardons him, that doesn't help her because there's already plenty of evidence against her. His testimony isn't needed, so it wouldn't help her to silence him with a pardon. She'd be more likely to try to use him as a scapegoat, framing everything she did as just following his orders.

Blogger Nick S October 30, 2016 10:53 AM  

"I Clinton is elected, these probes will continue to be in the spotlight; you might even see a special prosecutor.

This presumes Republicans hold the house and senate, but, even if they do, congressional probes would be slow rolled and obstructed by every other branch of government for her entire term/terms. A special prosecutor would be no guarantee of impartiality.

Anonymous John VI October 30, 2016 11:10 AM  

My favorite was the Arizona poll last week. They had weighted it with 58% dems to 24% repubs and Hillary was up by TWO. 2.4x as many Democrats and you are leading by 2?????? Learning to read Pravda is a useful skill in these retred modern times.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 11:12 AM  

@32 No, I think you are missing the point. If she gets prosecuted, then she makes CERTAIN that Obama is a witness in her "defense."

Anonymous Avalanche October 30, 2016 11:29 AM  

@25 " If she loses, they will fade into the background as the country moves forward with Trump."

Doubt it. If The Donald can build multiple buildings AND run multiple businesses at one time -- why on earth would anyone think he cannot build a wall, remove illegals, negotiate trade deals, AND stop the sabre rattling at Russia at one time!

(Maybe throw in: end NATO; get our military BACK inside our boundaries' provide care for our maimed vets; AND THROW Death Grandma and Huma and Lynch and Holder and, god willing the obamination into JAIL!)

Hell, even if he sleeps 10 hours a night, he'll have plenty of time during each day to manage multiple projects!

And we Alt Righters will DEMAND that new Attn'y General (YAY!) Trey Gowdy hound 'em all and jail 'em all!

WHY would the Alt Right just give up and go home once Trump is elected? Have ANY of us shown unswerving and complete trust in anything and everything our God-Emperor wants to or will do? (Answer: no.) Once you awaken the Anglo-Saxon dragon, we're AWAKE and hungry!

PICK A SIDE: and make sure it's the (Alt) RIGHT side!

Anonymous BGKB October 30, 2016 11:45 AM  

Saw this on LinkedIn this morning. Nice young lady conducted her own poll

govt workers and those who are net tax recipients don't have linkedin pages.

Bill Maher probably reflects their attitude when he tellingly quipped that he wouldn't care even if they discovered Jon Benet Ramsey in Hillary's basement

Duh, Jon Benet would be too old now for him to be interested.

why on earth would anyone think he cannot build a wall, remove illegals, negotiate trade deals, AND stop the sabre rattling at Russia at one time!

He will have to bring full force against each of those to make headway.

Anonymous Sazerac October 30, 2016 12:08 PM  

So from the early voting numbers I've seen (not counted until election day) Trump is looking good in a number of states.

Saw some comments that republicans are returning ballots at a 5% advantage in MI. Not sure how that compares to 2012 but since clinton is doing campaign stops in normally blue states I would assume it is positive.

He appears to have multiple avenues to victory now. I think I'm going to take the day off and have a few drinks as the results come in.

Blogger Iron Spartan October 30, 2016 1:02 PM  

The other way the pollsters have been adjusting the samples is that you have to have voted in both '08 and '12 to be counted at a likely voter. Part of how they are justifying the dem heavy samples.

Blogger James Dixon October 30, 2016 1:03 PM  

> I'm a little surprised the media outlets are correcting their polls. I figured they would go "all in" and let demographics win future elections.

I'm amazed. They know if Hillary wins that the single party government they've been working toward for the past 60 years or more will be a sure thing. I honestly thought they didn't care about their credibility at this point. The only conclusion that makes sense to me is that they are now convinced Trump will win.

> If Hillary's victory were truly inevitable, Comey would not have done what he did until after the election.

If her victory were inevitable, he wouldn't have done it at all.

> At this point Hillary supporters just don't care.

Die hard Hillary supporters are somewhere between 50 and 80% of registered democrats. That's 20-32% or so of registered voters. That's not enough to win the election, even with massive fraud.

Anonymous Silly but True October 30, 2016 1:18 PM  

RE: LinkedIn poll

Goes without saying that poll is biased for those having a job and are literate. Suggest its oversampling Trump voters at 100%.

Anonymous Forty October 30, 2016 1:20 PM  

I don't think Vox's interpretation is correct.
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Two weeks before BREXIT the polls were getting closer, but the week before BREXIT the polls were getting further apart. The "Populus" poll, taken the day before the vote, had "remain" up by ten points.
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All TWELVE of the polls taken in the final week had BREXIT doing WORSE than it actually did.
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In my estimation the newest tactic for demoralizing Conservative voters is to establish a narrative that things WERE close - but now they're moving AWAY from Trump in the final week.
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Expect the ABC poll to start edging up for clinton..

Blogger VD October 30, 2016 1:22 PM  

Expect the ABC poll to start edging up for clinton

Not after the FBI news.

Blogger Ingot9455 October 30, 2016 1:51 PM  

When the polls were still at Hillary +12, I got my bet in for Trump at a little less than five to one. Thanks to the person on here who pointed me to Predictit.

Blogger Ingot9455 October 30, 2016 1:55 PM  

@25 If Obama issues big blanket pardons to everyone in his administration, that makes his name historical mud. It removes his chances of future influence like he's planning, and positions in the United Nations.

Anonymous Just another commenter October 30, 2016 1:59 PM  

When Trump wins in an epic landslide, what I'd love to see is that when he holds a press conference, he identifies each reporter that asks a question by the mega-leftie that owns them.
Trump: You.
Reporter1: John Doe of the New York times-
Trump: The paper owned and controlled by the corrupt Mexican multi-billionaire, who favors massive immigration into America because he takes a cut every time they wire money home. Yes, go ahead with your question.
Reporter1: Nevermind.
Trump: You.
Reporter2: Jane Smyth of CNN-
Trump: OK, the Communist News Network, controlled by hyper-leftie Ted Turner, who is married to Hanoi Jane Fonda, with lower credibility than Pravda. What gotcha question does your master desire you to ask?
Reporter2: ....

Rip the mask of ownership off of these clowns and make it hurt.

Blogger Ingot9455 October 30, 2016 1:59 PM  

@37 It's interesting - Gov. Kasich (R-Asshole) said in a very insulting way to the press that he was offered a very active Vice-Presidency by the Trump Team. I took it to mean that Pence got the same deal - that Trump has big things that he wants to do that will take incredible efforts of the type he has demonstrated. And that there will be scadloads of low-grade work for a Vice President to handle.

Blogger Basil Makedon October 30, 2016 3:01 PM  

I don't think any polls can show upward movement for HRC at this point. Best you could hope for is "she is holding onto a slim lead ..." stories. They will have to release something really tasty against Trump now to have a "Hillary Rising" narrative in "polling."

Post Friday reveal rolling averages are going to be sick-making for many leftists, I suspect.

I hope that between Trump, Wikileaks, Project Veritas and Anonymous or whoever that they have at least 2 more body blows ready to deliver.

This Tuesday is the key day. If I had the ability to drop a Nuke from orbit on either camp it would be on Tues.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope October 30, 2016 4:25 PM  

Yes, thank you to everyone who told me about PredictIt. All set to make some serious $$$ from that website.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 30, 2016 5:24 PM  

17. Robert What? October 30, 2016 9:39 AM
Bill Maher probably reflects their attitude when he tellingly quipped that he wouldn't care even if they discovered Jon Benet Ramsey in Hillary's basement.



i keep telling people that Hillary voters are evil.

everyone keeps telling me they are "well meaning, just misguided".

the fuck they are.



21. Anchorman October 30, 2016 9:54 AM
The Comey bombshell may or may not turn into something.



mostly, it energizes Trump voters. which is not nothing.

but it's not going to suppress the Illegal vote in any way.

it's not going to suppress the HarambeLivesMatter vote in any way.

it's not going to suppress the Hollywood Shitlib vote in any way.

none of those demographics was voting for hILLary due to her "integrity".



21. Anchorman October 30, 2016 9:54 AM
As much as I shake my head at things he says, Trunp's instincts on where to strike and message have been really good.



it's not for nothing that Trump 'apprenticed' kayfabe with the WWE.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 6:12 PM  

I took it to mean that Pence got the same deal - that Trump has big things that he wants to do that will take incredible efforts of the type he has demonstrated. And that there will be scadloads of low-grade work for a Vice President to handle.

Sounds about right. I've been saying for a year now that anyone who wants to know how Trump runs things and deals with people only needs to watch the first season of The Apprentice, and pay special attention to his lieutenants. His style is to hire someone who seems to know the field in question, whose goals and attitudes are in line with his own, and then turn that person loose, pending regular reports. In other words, you know, like a business.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he gives Pence oversight over a handful of efforts that fall more into Pence's area of interest and expertise than Trump's (abortion, for instance, seems like a good candidate), and let Pence operate those fairly autonomously as long as the results are good. Trump has an ego, of course, but not the kind that insists he do everything himself; he's fine with taking yuge credit for hiring the best people for the job and staying out of their way.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 30, 2016 7:57 PM  

I think the FBI "bombshell" is being overrated by Republicans. At this point Hillary supporters just don't care.

Yeah, but Egghead McMuffin's supporters do care.
Ditto pothead Johnson's supporters.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 30, 2016 8:07 PM  

Yes. McMuffin has said he will be happy if Hillary wins, so his message is that a vote for him is a vote for Hillary in disguise so you can feel okay about it. So Republicans/conservatives thinking about going that route are going to care just how bad the dirt on Hillary might turn out to be.

Blogger dfordoom October 30, 2016 9:31 PM  

@17. Robert What?

I think the FBI "bombshell" is being overrated by Republicans.

Yep. It only matters to people who were already going to vote for Trump anyway.

And you're dealing with women voters. They'll vote for Clinton because she's female. End of story. Nothing, absolutely nothing, will sway them from voting for her. And the turnout among women voters will be enormous. This is their chance to make history, and to punish men. Facts won't make the slightest difference to them.

Christians won't care about it either. They won't vote for Trump because he isn't a nice man.

The "undecideds" will vote for Clinton because she seems like a safer choice.

Blogger Christopher B October 30, 2016 9:35 PM  

There is no way they could conceal the fraud if she went into election day up double digits and wound up only winning states by .5%

Blogger dfordoom October 30, 2016 9:36 PM  

@23. Otto Lamp

Trump is eating away at her base. Union members, blacks, etc..., people that have reflexively voted Democrat in the past are voting Trump.

That's possible, but the FBI "bombshell" will have zero effect on such voters.

And I suspect the FBI investigation will win Clinton more votes among women - they'll vote for her because she's a woman and she's being picked on by nasty men.

Blogger dfordoom October 30, 2016 10:09 PM  

You have to remember that from the globalists' point of view it's not enough for Clinton to win. Trump has to suffer an annihilating defeat so another Trump can never arise. So maybe they aren't worried about losing, maybe they're sure Clinton is going to win, they're just worried that her victory won't be overwhelming enough to discourage future Trumps.

Their apparent desperation may simply be the worry that their victory won't be complete enough.

Blogger JP October 31, 2016 1:35 AM  

>LinkedIn
There's your problem. Hillary voters don't work!

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 31, 2016 1:48 AM  

So maybe they aren't worried about losing, maybe they're sure Clinton is going to win, they're just worried that her victory won't be overwhelming enough to discourage future Trumps.

dfordoom, no. They've openly exulted over how after this, they'll have a demographic permanent victory. Nothing about your hypothesis makes any sense.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 31, 2016 1:57 AM  

And I suspect the FBI investigation will win Clinton more votes among women - they'll vote for her because she's a woman and she's being picked on by nasty men.

Oh, I get it now -- you're actually a Clinton shill. I can tell from your attempt at rhetorical turnabout of "nasty".

Blogger bosscauser October 31, 2016 3:29 PM  

That was an 8 swing in about a week...

Let's go #Trump and hurry!

Blogger bosscauser October 31, 2016 3:34 PM  

The elites are waking up to the fact not only is Trump going to win he hates disloyalty. And, he'll have real executive power!
Kissy kissy time😂

Let's go #Trump and hurry!

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