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Wednesday, October 26, 2016

Trump takes lead in Florida

Mirabile dictu, the poll gap is closing! Who could have ever seen that coming?
Donald Trump has a slim advantage in Florida as critical independent voters narrowly break his way in the must-win battleground state, a Bloomberg Politics poll shows. The Republican presidential nominee has 45 percent to Democrat Hillary Clinton’s 43 percent among likely voters when third-party candidates are included, the poll found. In a hypothetical two-way race, Trump has 46 percent to Clinton’s 45 percent. Florida, one of two states Trump calls home, is rated by major election forecasters as a toss-up or leaning toward Clinton.
And now Pennsylvania is, miraculously, unexpectedly, in play:

The candidates in the General Election for President of the United States are the Republican Donald Trump, the Democrat Hillary Clinton and the Libertarian Gary Johnson or someone else. If the election were held today, for whom would you vote? 

Donald Trump:42%
Hillary Clinton:45%
Gary Johnson:5%
Someone else:1%
Undecided:7%

Isn't it remarkable how the independents are, only now, beginning to make up their minds? Why, whatever happened to the media narrative that the election was already over and Hillary was going to win by 14 percentage points?

Do you think, perhaps, just maybe, that it wasn't true?

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143 Comments:

Blogger The Bechtloff October 26, 2016 8:02 AM  

I live in PA and have been saying for months now PA will go red.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT October 26, 2016 8:02 AM  

Do you think, perhaps, just maybe, that it wasn't true?

Inconceivable! The MSM would never lie to us!

It must be the Russians! Tampering with the polls!

Anonymous MendoScot October 26, 2016 8:10 AM  

Da! Kan konfirm.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 8:14 AM  

If 5% of PA voters knew who Weed Johnson was I would be surprised.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2016 8:16 AM  

I cannot help but think that every election for the last 4 decades has featured a media focus on independents... and who was winning them. It was always a big storyline.

Stone silence this time. Because Trump is winning them. We know Trump is winning them... because of two reasons. 1) If Hillary was the media would be screaming about it. and 2) many of the state polls show it.

Blogger Gromm October 26, 2016 8:17 AM  

Do you think, perhaps, just maybe, that it wasn't true?

Tightening to reality before the election so pollsters can save face. Color me not surprised.

Anonymous slightly more deplorable October 26, 2016 8:17 AM  

@2 Inconceivable! The (((MSM))) would never lie to us to get us to finish destroying our own country!

fifya

Blogger Starbuck October 26, 2016 8:21 AM  

Do you think, perhaps, just maybe, that it wasn't true?-Vox Day

The hell you say...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 8:21 AM  

The glorious moderate independents the saviors of our "democracy" or "republic" are voting for Literally Hitler, that is unpossible, I am faint.

Anonymous Basket of Deplorables October 26, 2016 8:26 AM  

And even that Republican (establishment) affiliated poll is...weird. The weighted sample is 48% D, and Hillary still only gets to 45%. The R's are oversampled too...with Ind down at 10%. Philly is overweighted at 42% of the state, and there is an 8% gender gap, with women making up 54% to men's 46%. And those aren't the raw numbers that happened to answer the phone...those are what they weighted it to.

I've never heard of such a gender imbalance in likely turnout. If there really is an 8% spread between men and women, the Republic is doomed. And if there isn't, PA's voters (absent Philly Phraud) are going red for the first time in a long time. But there is a big gap between ballots cast and ballots counted in PA. I haven't heard enough about the R's reigning in Philly Phraud to give me any comfort that the results out of Philly won't be, however many the D's need to take the state, plus 50k, even if that number exceeds the population by about 20%.

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2016 8:27 AM  

> Do you think, perhaps, just maybe, that it wasn't true?

It never has been. Bill only won by 5.5% over Bush (https://infogalactic.com/info/United_States_presidential_election,_1992) and Obama only beat McCain by 7.2% (https://infogalactic.com/info/US_Presidential_election_2008). There's no way Hillary is up by as much as they claim.

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 8:29 AM  

It was a major whitepill when the (((Facebook co-founder))) who had already given Hillary $20M decided that he needed to throw an additional $15M into an election that his side had already won by unprecedented margins.

Blogger Phillip George October 26, 2016 8:31 AM  

Keep the Wikileaks body bag count in mind. Dead reporters can't tell lies for them. They haven't taken the story with them - those deaths are the story.
Christopher Stevens remembered.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 8:37 AM  

The progressives have got us now boys, just read over at Occidental Dissent that Pussy Riot has created an anti-Trump music video or something about vagina power or something like that (over powered by the smell) and Amy Shumer went topless.

It's over man how can Trump overcome the incredible appeal of over privileged white women showing their boobs and pussies, people of color are going to flock to Hillary so they too can worship over entitled white brats because the world just loves spoiled rich white brats.

Blogger GAHCindy October 26, 2016 8:39 AM  

My grandmother has never voted for anyone but Democrats her entire life. She's voting Trump. My husband doesn't vote. I don't think he ever has, even once. It's not that he doesn't care, but that he knows it's just a ritual most of the time, with pre-determined results. This year, he's voting Trump. I woke up to the sound of him arguing with Me-again Kelly. Never seen him do more than yawn when politics are mentioned.

Meanwhile, my SJW sister who probably won't talk to me again until this election is over is absolutely dejected about her choice, and probably won't even show up on voting day if it rains. I'm trying to turn her on to Jill Stein, or staying home. Started pre-suading her before I'd ever heard the term. It's a gift of mine. ;-)

My church-lady mom was never fazed by the allegations against Trump, and my church-lady friends don't care, either. (I guess I could be called a church-lady, too, but somehow I never seem to track with their attitudes, so maybe not.) They pretend to, but I think they're as enthusiastic as I am, deep down in their virtue-signaling hearts. They're voting for Trump, anyhow.

Given the strange behavior of everyone I know concerning this election, if there's no Trumpslide, I will not believe the results are possible without massive cheating.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 26, 2016 8:40 AM  

Stone silence this time. Because Trump is winning them. We know Trump is winning them... because of two reasons. 1) If Hillary was the media would be screaming about it. and 2) many of the state polls show it.

@5 Nate
I'm just surprised they didn't try to come out with a cooked poll showing Hillary ahead among indies.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT October 26, 2016 8:41 AM  

@10 - I haven't heard enough about the R's reigning in Philly Phraud to give me any comfort that the results out of Philly won't be, however many the D's need to take the state, plus 50k, even if that number exceeds the population by about 20%.

Oh, and I suppose the dead don't count as part of the "population" in your have-a-pulse-privileged little world?

#DeadVotesMatter

Anonymous Captain Renault October 26, 2016 8:42 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

"I'm shocked! Shocked to find gambling is going on in here!"

Anonymous nil October 26, 2016 8:42 AM  

The map says Hillary. The territory says Trump.

Anonymous Jacks Carlton October 26, 2016 8:46 AM  

I want to be introduced to someone who, just this week, made up his mind. I am completely baffled on what thought processes could produce such a thing. Glad they are breaking toward the Trumpslide, though.

Anonymous DT October 26, 2016 8:47 AM  

@14 - I'm confused. If I look at a topless woman for Hillary will I be supporting Hillary? Or will I be guilty of #LookRape?

Or both???

Anonymous Jacks Carlton October 26, 2016 8:51 AM  

@19 - The map says Hillary. The territory says Trump.

That's a good way of putting it. Explains quite a bit, actually.

Blogger Ron October 26, 2016 8:51 AM  

The question of Mr Trump winning the actual vote is over.

The real question is if Pompey will force Caesar to cross the Rubicon

Anonymous rienzi October 26, 2016 8:53 AM  

Early voted yesterday in FL. The area the polling station is located in is about 50% migrantes, and 50% old, white, middle-middle class people from the midwest.

No lines to speak of, but the place was full, and the old lady checking me in said they had been all day. All of the people voting were old, whites. Not a latino to be seen.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 8:53 AM  

The political party of envy is tone deaf, they believe their own bullshit now. So they send out the "pretty" people and the oligarchs to rub it into the faces of the deplorables. Which by my book is to be expected, except have you seen who does the bulk of the voting for the Ds? Yep, people one ballot wrongly cast from being deplorable themselves.

The Ds need to double down, I am so outraged, they don't dare insult me again.

Anonymous Cantostop October 26, 2016 9:00 AM  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sGy5wpY3kMI

Unreal... Like Newt said, parallel universes.

And what an absolute cunt Megyn Kelly is! You can just smell the alpha widow on her...loathsome. I didn't even know about it until I was on the phone with a female relative who could hardly contain her disgust in bringing it up.

Traitors all, time to flush the toilet and douse it in bleach!!

Anonymous Cantostop October 26, 2016 9:01 AM  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sGy5wpY3kMI

Unreal... Like Newt said, parallel universes.

And what an absolute cunt Megyn Kelly is! You can just smell the alpha widow on her...loathsome. I didn't even know about it until I was on the phone with a female relative who could hardly contain her disgust in bringing it up.

Traitors all, time to flush the toilet and douse it in bleach!!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 9:05 AM  

If you want delusional find Jonah Goldberg's latest appeal for president elect Egg McMuffin yes you read it right. His path is thru the house of representin.

Blogger Stilicho October 26, 2016 9:07 AM  

@Nate. Good point. I haven't seen a single let's-worship-the-independents story or independent-on-the-street interview this cycle.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 26, 2016 9:08 AM  

MAIL CALL! WikiLeaks just dropped the 19th batch of #PodestaEmails this morning!
https://www.rt.com/usa/364163-wikileaks-podesta-emails-19/

Anonymous Cary October 26, 2016 9:10 AM  

The "undecided" out there have leanings, but have struggles with their traditional party's candidate. I know churchian Christians who would never vote for Hillary but who are still struggling with whether they can vote for Trump. I assume there are Bernie voters who have never voted R but hate Hillary and are struggling with voting. They are not undecided in that they have no opinions, but in what to do given the choices.
My guess is that on net these choices will break to Trump, but I am more around those who lean that way.

Blogger MDN October 26, 2016 9:10 AM  

I commented on another post but it bears repeating. I live in southern PA and it is as close to 100% Trump country here as you can probably find anywhere. I have seen dozens and dozens if not hundreds of items of Trump paraphernalia in lawns and on the people out here against maybe one positive Hillary sign. My wife and I are voting Trump after not voting at all in 2012 and I doubt we are the only ones doing the same.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 26, 2016 9:14 AM  

I was expecting the polls to tighten as well.

The claim that a vote for Donald Trump is a vote to put a sexual predator in the White House, rings flat when the alternative is Bill Clinton in the East Wing.

Their whole parade of "injured women" turned into a human shark jump when they rolled out a long in the tooth pornstar as the latest "Victim".

Jessica Drake the star of such cinema classics as ASSministrative ASSistant and Pussyman's Spectacular Butt Babes 4 (4 hours of Butt Busting Action) and who is now moving relentlessly from MILF to GILF, bravely came forward to declare that Donald Trump made unseemly advances to her in Las Vegas.

Apparently, he...(*And I am NOT kidding here FoxNews actually went with this*)...kissed her without her permission!


Blogger Raggededge October 26, 2016 9:14 AM  

I want to be introduced to someone who, just this week, made up his mind. I am completely baffled on what thought processes could produce such a thing. Glad they are breaking toward the Trumpslide, though.

I've met several people who have decided to vote Trump over a 3rd party candidate. Not met any that switched from Hillary to Trump. I'm with you on this, I don't understand how someone can be undecided between the 2 major candidates.

Anonymous Sam the Man October 26, 2016 9:16 AM  

I have seen one guy who was wavering decide to vote trump this week (Monday). He is of Lebanese decent, father Muslim, mother Christian. His wife was gently working on him (she is a Chaldean Christian) and he said he had finally made up his mind to pull the trump lever, based on the absolute horrid corruption of Hillary.

From my very limited view I would guess that unless folks are locked in for Hillary, they will break for Trump. I note no matter how skewed the poll they can never get Hillary to over 50 % the best they have managed is to get her to around 46~47% with polls that are just shy 50 % democratic folks polled.

Blogger Salt October 26, 2016 9:17 AM  

"WOW! TRUMP Cleveland Rally Has 1.7 MILLION Views – Hillary Cleveland Rally has 3,825 Views"

It's like that everywhere. Trump draws thousands. Kaine held a Rally and 30 people showed up. He was having a good day.



Anonymous Credo_In_Unum_Deum October 26, 2016 9:18 AM  

I realized something yesterday:

If the way they measure unemployment in America is total bullshit (For example: If one stops looking for a job, then one no longer count as "unemployed" and if you have to get another minimum-wage job just to survive, well then they've "created another job...")

Then maybe the way they're doing polls for President is total bullshit too.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 26, 2016 9:21 AM  

Wow. 29% of the black vote. If that is nationwide, Hillary is toast.

Blogger Harsh October 26, 2016 9:21 AM  

I'd sooner believe that 5% said they were voting for the corpse of Nixon.

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 9:23 AM  

It's not polite to talk about (and the St. Louis townhall did everything it could to pretend otherwise), but all Independents/Undecideds at this point are white.

Specifically, "color-blind" whites.

Blind, but not actively hostile.

Each individual may have their own criteria or priorities or w/e, but as a group, the question is will they ultimately break to their in-group, or break to the invaders.

They'll go Trump.

Blogger Jamie-R October 26, 2016 9:24 AM  

2 term Jimmy Carter he be Tyrone fucking shit up.
Hillary the most corrupt candidate ever.
Media in the hole, Bush family working to help Republicans understand there may be something to them allowing their business relationship with Saudis first before 9/11, just like ol' Grandfather Bush.
Feeling the flow, working it.

Trump is 90s hip hop.

Switched the fame but still the same turn up America to blast
Donald J Trump, he running the game and Magnificent bout his cash

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 9:28 AM  

TRUMP Cleveland Rally Has 1.7 MILLION Views – Hillary Cleveland Rally has 3,825 Views

This is good, but this is also why I don't think things like wikileaks are as effective as they ought to be. The people who are voting for Hillary - other than the feminists - don't give a shit about her, they are voting for the global order/open borders/gibs from whites. That they chose Hillary as their PR face is irrelevant to these people, other than her value as someone good people despise, and rubbing their faces in it.

That being said, it indicates that Hillary's white support is in critical condition, which is a great whitepill.

Anonymous ZhukovG October 26, 2016 9:33 AM  

I honestly believe that Undecided = 'I am voting for Trump(you leftist hag pollster!), but I am not going to tell someone who knows how to get in touch with me.'

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 9:34 AM  

Don't worry #42 Jon Bon Jovi is headed to Tampa to shore up that white support with a free concert. Ok I admit he will draw more than Tim Kaine and Tim Kaine drew a bigger crowd in the bathhouse than at his FL rally.

Anonymous Basket of Deplorables October 26, 2016 9:35 AM  

I get redpill, and bluepill, WTF is whitepill?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 9:38 AM  

FWIW the NY Post has an article about high school chilluns preferring The Donald over Hillary, though admittedly Bernie is still the man with them.

Blogger Mighty Lou October 26, 2016 9:38 AM  

Clinton's "ground game" (appropriately called) consists of campaign volunteers marching through the streets shouting, "Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead!"

Anonymous krymneth October 26, 2016 9:38 AM  

Jacks Carlton wrote:I want to be introduced to someone who, just this week, made up his mind.

Well, I know what you mean, but the week is young. Stay tuned... Kim Dotcom has amped up his teasing that the missing emails will be released, perhaps even today, which has been a called shot for many months now. There may be a lot of people unexpectedly making up their minds this week.

I'm skeptical, because a lot of the teasing this year hasn't amounted to much, but then again, quite a bit of it has, so.... stay tuned.

Anonymous Mike C October 26, 2016 9:44 AM  

VD,
How come Mike Cernovich always promotes himself.
You promote him.
But he never promotes you?
His ideal list of speakers include Milo, and others.
He says that he and Milo are the only ones on the right doing social properly.
He doesn't let you share his platform, but you are always promoting him, and sharing your platform.

-Will surely be labeled a concern troll

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 26, 2016 9:46 AM  

Hillary supporters are pretty much locked in. The reason they are locked in is because they have been participants in the big city machines. I have 1 friend of a friend I know that's wife was born and raised in Chicago. She is an all in Hillary supporter and no matter what happens she is unabashedly "with her". Her husband is cucked so he is carrying the party line but I suspect that he might be voting differently in the voting booth.

The true independents and the Union Democrats I think are going to break for Trump. Unions have traditionally been in the tank with the Democrats and their leadership still is. The problem is the members have noticed that Globalism is hurting them and they are no longer going to be a reliable machine.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 26, 2016 9:48 AM  

Mike C wrote:VD,

How come Mike Cernovich always promotes himself.

You promote him.

But he never promotes you?

His ideal list of speakers include Milo, and others.

He says that he and Milo are the only ones on the right doing social properly.

He doesn't let you share his platform, but you are always promoting him, and sharing your platform.

-Will surely be labeled a concern troll



Perhaps Vox does not want to be in the spot light and has let Cernovich know that. Did you watch Vox's interview with Stephan last night? He straight up says he doesn't want to do what Mike and Milo do but he is supporting them in his own way.

Blogger Rational Thinker October 26, 2016 9:52 AM  

They're still manipulating the polls. Notice how Johnson is included yet Stein is left off?

Blogger Frank Lin October 26, 2016 9:55 AM  

White pill, I think, is something true that big gives you hope. Not 100% sure though.

Anonymous Mike C. October 26, 2016 9:57 AM  

@51

Maybe that would be plausible if he didn't spend so much time on Twitter, this blog and other media.

He puts an enormous amount of effort into promoting various projects of his. Surely, they would benefit from even a little exposure.

He does accept interviews and so on.

Anyway, I think it would be polite for those guys to promote him.

Anonymous slowpoke October 26, 2016 9:58 AM  

It occurs to me that the internal polling is garbage for the clinton campeign. They have the ability to flip any number of votes in the key states they want to; however they dont know how many they need to. If the media is pulling it through and they oversteal then even they cant claim legitimacy. If they dont get enough then Trump wins. They just dont know what the Trumpslide size is and so cant counter it. This is why the full court press in case they oversteal it wont be so obvious. Hang on its going to get sporty.

Anonymous Broken Arrow October 26, 2016 9:59 AM  

If the 3rd party vote in the polls is really bogus, then this could be the start of the cascade to Trump. There won't be a cascade to Hillary. She may win, but nobody likes her. Nobody.

Blogger YIH October 26, 2016 9:59 AM  

Not surprised, Trump's finally broken out his checkbook for the TV/radio/junk mail/robocall ads in FL.
While anecdotes ain't data it appears the general mood in FL is indifference at best toward the Lizard Queen.
I still say it's gonna be close and quite possibly 2000 all over again. While Chad is long gone, the voting machines are still questionable.

Blogger OGRE October 26, 2016 10:03 AM  

I keep saying it, PA is the key state in this race. Every projection seems to have it safely blue and its what gives Hillary her win. Flip it and it looks much more favorable for Trump.

FL and OH seem to be breaking for Trump. NC and PA are the big ones after that. If he takes those four its only a matter of securing a couple of the traditionally R states like GA and AZ and UT. The Mormons aren't crazy to think that UT could be the decider, but they are playing with hellfire in their attempt to take a longshot at the White House.

Every single poll I've seen has Indies going for Trump by at least +10. I don't see how she can win if that happens. (short of fraud). Trump is also up with white women. And Clintons black vote is depressed, as Trump is picking up more of that demo than any prior Repub candidate. And of course the Dems are not enthusiastic about her like they were for Obama. How can she possibly have the big lead the media claims if those factors are true?

Frankly I think the only thing keeping this close are the NeverTrumpers and the Repub elite. They might as well switch parties now, because the political seppuku they are performing in order to keep out Trump will ensure the old school Rs never set foot in the White House again.

Blogger YIH October 26, 2016 10:07 AM  

BTW, this one made me chuckle: Michael Moore: "Trump's Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History".
Back at 'cha tubbo.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 26, 2016 10:11 AM  

The Mormons aren't crazy to think that UT could be the decider, but they are playing with hellfire in their attempt to take a longshot at the White House.

Pence is headed to Utah today. That isn't a state the campaign should have to ever visit, so perhaps Egghead is doing some damage. If the Mormons cost Trump the election... oh, boy.

Looks like he might get 1 electoral vote out of one of Maine's districts too, since they divided theirs up.

If Trump gets PA, he doesn't need CO or NV, I don't think. And I did read something about black turnout being lower in the early voting in NC in comparison to 2012, at least so far. That can only help Trump there.

But I still think PA is kind of a pipe dream. Repubs always want it, think they might get it, and never do. However, this isn't a normal election year, so who knows...

Blogger Lobo Util October 26, 2016 10:14 AM  

I am just hoping that Mr. Ed takes Utah, and the rest of the electoral college votes with Trump up by 1 or 2 votes, leaving no electoral college winner.

The The House of unRepresentatives gets to decide it. The fistfights in the Repub caucus meeting would be worth the price of admission.

Anonymous Viking October 26, 2016 10:15 AM  

It is like watching the media playing chicken with truth, and this is the moment where we see them flinch.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) October 26, 2016 10:16 AM  

The Bloomberg poll is conducted by Selzer, which is one of the best pollsters and is rated A+ by 538.

Blogger OGRE October 26, 2016 10:16 AM  

I think Hillary's statement about "putting a lot of coal miners out of work" hits Eastern PA hard. Its why WV and KY are the states most heavily Trump, and shitting all over the blue collars like that doesn't fly in in PA and OH. She'll take Philly of course, but Philly doesn't outweigh the entire rest of the state. She needed Pittsburgh too. And Pittsburgh is a blue collar town through and through.

Blogger Sheila4g October 26, 2016 10:17 AM  

Just early voted this morning (DFW Suburb). No lines. All the election workers were old White people; the only others waiting to vote were two Pakistanis. While I inquired about a paper ballot (after searching fruitlessly online yesterday), I would have had to drive about 45 minutes away to get one, so I went with the Diebold machine. It cast my ballot as I intended, at least per the final screen. They keep talking about Texas turning blue: my suburb has gone from "hideously White" 20 years ago to "vibrantly diverse" today, so if that's applicable state-wide, I wouldn't be surprised.

Blogger SemiSpook37 October 26, 2016 10:21 AM  

@32

My family lives in southern PA, as well. Can confirm that they're all voting for Trump. When I talked with my father at the end of August, he was of the mind that there's no way any sane person would willingly vote for the D candidate. Should also mention that both he and my mother are both independents, while my sister is an R, sort of like I was back in '02.

@60

You can say PA is a pipe dream all you want, but if a traditional D stronghold such as Johnstown is actively courting Trump, and keep in mind that's the home of the late John Murtha, influential Congresscritter that he was, all bets are off. That is beyond telling.

Anonymous Baseball Savant October 26, 2016 10:22 AM  

BUT BUT CNN just said that Clinton could potentially take Utah away from Trump!!!!!

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 10:23 AM  

@45

Whitepill is a cause for optimism: Huge crowds giving roaring approval of Trump unabashedly promoting nationalism is white pilling.

Conversely, Blackpill is a cause for despair, and in context usually involves malicious manufacturing. Phony polls and lines of women appearing who were groped 30 years ago are attempts to blackpill Trumps supporters.

Blogger Marty October 26, 2016 10:25 AM  

I have a good friend, a devout Muslim who is often quoted in the local paper as representing the local Islamic center on various issues, who is voting for Trump in Ohio. He's tired of the high taxes he pays, can't stand Hilldawg, and illegal immigration. He's tried to get his brother to legally immigrate from Pakistan for 13 years which the government has not allowed and he sees people walking right across the border and it pisses him off.

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 10:28 AM  

If Trump take PA AND CuckMuffin take UT, how does that play out?

Imagine being a #neverTrump, doing something that leaves your mark on the electoral college forever, and still being completely ineffectual.

This strikes me as best possible outcome; Trump wins, and NeverTrump cannot pretend to have never existed come 2018 and 2020.

Blogger Timmy3 October 26, 2016 10:29 AM  

Less than 2 weeks, this nightmare will end. Hoping for Trump. Too close for comfort for Florida. I can't believe Hillary is getting that many votes in Florida. Nobody went to see Kaine in Palm Beach. The dead are definitely for Clinton/Kaine

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) October 26, 2016 10:31 AM  

If Trump take PA AND CuckMuffin take UT, how does that play out?

Trump would still need to win NC and AZ

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 26, 2016 10:34 AM  

You can say PA is a pipe dream all you want,

Look, it has been the last 4 or 5 elections. But I also freely admit that this year is a very different election. Trump is a very different candidate and geez, Hillary is about as unlikeable and as unattractive a candidate as you can possibly get.

I haven't bothered to check how much Obama won the state by in 2012. I don't know how many new voters have been added to the rolls in the last 4 years, or how many people (like myself in OH) simply didn't bother to vote in 2012 but will vote this year. All of that matters very much. I also don't know how many rural votes are needed to offset the Philly machine. I admit my knowledge on the voting patterns of the state, despite it being my neighbor, is largely incomplete.

I hope like hell he pulls off PA.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 26, 2016 10:40 AM  

OT
Demolition of Calais colonizer camp continues after part of camp burns down.

Burn it all down.

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 10:40 AM  

@72

I take that as a given. So yes, that is officially what I am now rooting for.

Blogger Nick S October 26, 2016 10:40 AM  

@69

Yeah, Marty, also, I wouldn't make a universal no true Muslim argument, but I think it would be somewhat antithetical to Islam for Muslims to vote for a woman to be the leader of the free world.

Anonymous angriffmanner October 26, 2016 10:42 AM  

@55 "They have the ability to flip any number of votes in the key states they want to; however they dont know how many they need to."

That is a very good point. However, I would not be surprised if the Lizard Queen's globalist masters have ponied up enough money for accurate internal polls. They are traitors in need of space up against Mr. Trump's new wall, not COMPLETE retards. These vermin have been rigging American elections for a long time.

Anonymous Cary October 26, 2016 10:44 AM  

Just saw that this battleground county view was updated this week. It is in line with OH and NC with Trump, FL tied, and PA-CO both barely Clinton.

http://axiomstrategies.com/abc/

Blogger Salt October 26, 2016 10:46 AM  

Given Hillary's temper, I wouldn't be surprised if her internal polling wasn't skewed to keep her from exploding. Same for the MSM. That woman is volatile.

Keep her happy. Lie to her. She likes lies anyway.

Blogger T-Rav October 26, 2016 10:46 AM  

I have said, from the very beginning, that Trump could not and would not win the general election, even against the Wicked Witch herself. I still don't really think he will....but I will happily eat a LOT of crow if it really does happen.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 10:46 AM  

Of course its Trump's the Trucons are already plotting his impeachment.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 26, 2016 10:46 AM  

I hope like hell he pulls off PA.

According to Newt, he's ahead in PA right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Uhd8Jg8P4

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 26, 2016 10:48 AM  

Driving to work through the bluest of blue regions in my state, when the local radio show brought up the Megyn vs. Newt smackdown and asked for listeners to weigh in. First few callers were all cucked gamma males who white knighted for Megyn big time. But then woman after woman got through and viciously savaged her, they were not having one bit of it and sided with Newt all the way. I suppose there are many gammas running around still wondering what happened there.

Finally saw my first Hillary yard sign. It came up down the street but simultaneously with a "for sale" sign. In 2008 and 2012 you could not drive down a single neighborhood street without seeing at least one Obama sign somewhere, usually several.

No illusions - Hillary will take this region of Northern Virginia where I live handily, but with nowhere close to the overwhelming turnout that Obama pulled. The thrill is gone, baby! My brothers-in-arms downstate have a chance to counter all this lefty and outright foreign madness up here.

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. October 26, 2016 10:49 AM  

I've lived in rural PA for 14 years and I've never seen so many yard signs for a single candidtae. Sometimes every house on a street. Don't know about Philadelphia, but I think Pittsburgh will swing Trump and pull the state.

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. October 26, 2016 10:50 AM  

I've lived in rural PA for 14 years and I've never seen so many yard signs for a single candidtae. Sometimes every house on a street. Don't know about Philadelphia, but I think Pittsburgh will swing Trump and pull the state.

Blogger Nick S October 26, 2016 10:58 AM  

More evidence of FBI corruption.

There is no way Trump could have withstood this concerted onslaught of the Clinton Grand Wurlitzer on his own without a little divine intervention. Trump must be a work in progress is all I can figure.

Blogger Arborist (#0232) October 26, 2016 11:01 AM  

I'm in the metro Pittsburgh area and I travel throughout PA, Ohio and WV--not just on the interstates but throughout many small towns. Over the last year it's been hard to find any visible support for Clinton--maybe half a dozen bumper stickers. Almost as much visible Johnson support as Clinton. Trump signs, banners, murals and more are absolutely everywhere. You cannot drive a half mile without seeing a yard full. Hard to know exactly what it means; I remail hopeful.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 26, 2016 11:05 AM  

Egg McNugget admitted he'll be happy if he stops Trump for Hillary. Dunno whether that'll embarrass and change the minds of any of the people who thought they were being offered a respectable way to avoid choosing without "wasting" their vote.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis October 26, 2016 11:06 AM  

86 comments in and dh hasn't weighed in yet....

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2016 11:06 AM  

The one anti-Trump ad being used on a down ballot race here in Illinois was produced by the tone deaf for the dim witted. I know it was supposed to be the usual Outrage Porn beloved by the establishment but Trump was funny and the "victims" less loved and respectable than Jon Stewart's mythical flyover RubeFuhrer.

They suck folks, might as well promote Scalzi, the Haydens and Hairweaves in Space girlfren to run the pop culture outreach, oh, and maybe PedoPhil as well.

Blogger YIH October 26, 2016 11:15 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Don't worry #42 Jon Bon Jovi is headed to Tampa to shore up that white support with a free concert. Ok I admit he will draw more than Tim Kaine and Tim Kaine drew a bigger crowd in the bathhouse than at his FL rally.


Bon Jovi, KEK. What, not Nickleback?

Anonymous Sam the Man October 26, 2016 11:15 AM  

PA is in play this year because of Trump. No other traditional republican candidate could take it. Here is why:

PA has a large industrial class of workers who have traditionally felt that the democrats actually care about them, and the republicans represent the interest of the mine/steel mill/foundry/large enterprise. You must remember that we are the state of Molly Maguire, the National Guard was used to put down industrial strife from the late 19th century until the mid 1930s. The blue collar are not entirely wrong in that approach, the republican national party must make a really good case to bring the working class in. The last Republican to break this lock was Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984, followed by Bush in 1988. But Bush and his bunch of turds blew that, and while it was Clinton who signed NAFTA, every one knew it was the republicans that supported it.

Trump is different as he addresses real concerns about blue collar and college educated folks working in the real world: Immigration, globalization, not sending the young off to war.
So in this election it is actually Trump who is really pro blue collar worker. For the most part Trump seems to have most categories of working voters locked up, except for the following:

1) Government service sector union employees (except Police who all like trump).
2) Teachers unions
3) Stupid college kids who think they will get free stuff.
4) Blacks
5) Bitter middle-aged divorced/never married women
6) college educated who survive on government largess (social worker types)
7) Jewish utopian liberals (they hate Trump)
8) Homosexuals and other perverts
9)Illegally registered Hispanics who think they might get amnesty
10)True believers Democrats, those that pull the D lever and just do not think about it.
11) Old farts who have been convinced Trump sucks cause they listen to the mainstream media. This is the only group that would be considered normally republican leaning that Hillary has any gain.

Obama won by 3.2 % points in 2012. A drop of blacks to traditional participation rates will reduce that by 1.1 %. If blacks only go for Hillary at 85%, that is a another 0.5%. So half the win of Obama could be lost with jut the black vote delta. Can trump pick up another 1.6 to 1.8 %. Very possible though I doubt the polls could reflect it, as all the poll assumptions and weighting are based on 2012 turn out.

Not saying trump will win it, just saying it is very possible.


Anonymous Daedalus Mugged October 26, 2016 11:16 AM  

PA is and has been a pipedream because the D machine in Philly cheats enough to keep the state in D pockets. They figure out how much the rest of PA votes R by, nets how much Philly and Pittsburgh honestly votes D by, and then adds enough Philly Phraud to make sure D's win.

The corruption is literally unchecked, to the point of many West Philly precincts with 100% turnout, and 100% D support. Not one person was out of town or sick, and every single one of them supposedly pulled the lever for Obama. After the Republican monitors were chased out, while being yelled at that 'This is a Democrat precinct!' That happened in '12 because they weren't sure how much they needed to cheat to beat Romney due to late moves in the (real, internal) polls. That is why PA is a pipedream...it votes Republican, and goes Democrat. And the cucklicans don't have the guts to fight it because they're afraid of being called racist.

Blogger Anchorman October 26, 2016 11:24 AM  

The PA poll is interesting, considering I mentioned the onslaught of pro-Hillary commercials on TV and radio in central PA. I still think it’s a tough, uphill fight for PA, but making it competitive is enough for optimism.

I think the “Hillary’s already won this” is meant to dissuade the Undies from coming out to vote and has little to do with trying to suppress GOP turnout.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 26, 2016 11:29 AM  

Egg McNugget admitted he'll be happy if he stops Trump for Hillary.

Wait, what? Wasn't he supposed to keep that a "secret" until mid November? What's wrong with these people, they don't know how to throw an election, even with Romney literally telling them how to do it?

Blogger Anchorman October 26, 2016 11:31 AM  

Egg McMuffin (and backers) rightly know Trump's election is as much as repudiation of BushCo and it is of the Clintonistas.

Blogger Nick S October 26, 2016 11:32 AM  

Where in the hell is Eric Braverman? It's not as if nobody is looking for him. It's very odd that 48 hours since this thing blew up, unless I've missed it, there is still no definitive news. The Snopes shot in the dark fact check is a joke.

Anonymous Pittsburgh October 26, 2016 11:36 AM  

@87

I live in Pittsburgh as well, and travel all around the southwestern PA region. I am not seeing Trump or Clinton material anywhere. Maybe what you are seeing is mainly in WV and OH. But I could drive in an one hour radius in any direction and count the number of political signs I see for either candidate on one hand.

Blogger Mish in Utah October 26, 2016 11:43 AM  

OK I'm a Utah Mormon, and I've decided I need to get up and help Trump more than the little I've done. I know other Utah Mormons read this, what would help, do you think?
The objections I've heard are along the lines of Trump is against family values. I talked my 90 plus year old grandmother out of that mindset, by pointing out that a lot of what is being said is suspect, and that it'd be great to have a righteous man as our nominee, but we have Trump and he's much better than corrupt Hillary. I even talked my immigrant friend out of being afraid of Trump and now she's having fun on her social media platforms arguing with her peers about him.
I don't do social media, but I'm going to tackle twitter. Any thoughts from fellow Utah Mormons would be appreciated.

Blogger Wyndie October 26, 2016 11:46 AM  

I knew Teump was winning when the news came out that the Clinton Foundation moved 1.8 Billion to a bank in Qatar. The Clintons are getting ready to run when Trump wins and everything gets exposed.

Anonymous Ironsides October 26, 2016 11:47 AM  

New signs have gone up in my Wisconsin town (population about 8,000) -- Trump to Hillary ratio is currently 4-1 on the routes I drive.

No early voting in this burg, so I'll just have to wait and see what Election Day looks like.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 26, 2016 11:57 AM  

Mish in Utah, it depends on what "against family values" means. Trump is for all the same family values past Republicans were, unless that's code for "caving in to illegal immigrants because we don't want anyone to accuse us of trying to break up families."

In general, I'd think one positive way to combat the narrative that Trump is a bad family man would be to point to Trump's kids, who by all accounts are respectable people with good families of their own.

Anonymous BGKB October 26, 2016 11:59 AM  

And if there isn't, PA's voters (absent Philly Phraud) are going red for the first time in a long time.

Absent Philly fraud PA, has likely been as red as IL. The republicans in 81, caught voter fraud but the leftists played the race card & the right supercucked giving up the right to fight voter fraud in the areas most likely to have voter fraud(non Asian minority areas).

no true Muslim argument, but I think it would be somewhat antithetical to Islam for Muslims to vote for a woman

Maybe telling moslems that Crooked Eye Clinton draws pics of Moo ham mad.

Blogger Arborist (#0232) October 26, 2016 12:01 PM  

@98

I acknowledge that I'm seeing the same as you are south of the city. My travels take me from Findlay, OH to Williamsport, PA and south to Beckley, WV--heavy support for Trump in that region, minus the cities. Much north of Cranberry you will see plenty of Trump signs too.

Blogger Marty October 26, 2016 12:01 PM  

Well Pakistan where he's from did have a woman PM in Benazir Bhutto, though a legacy pick and for all I know a puppet. He's gotten flack from other Muslims at the center for his somewhat pro-Trump stance. He's probably an outlier from what I can tell.

Anonymous Eric the Red October 26, 2016 12:13 PM  

Regardless of whether she wins or loses, the cunt Harridan is not long for this world. Her masters are by now sick of her volatility, and they are quite aware of her health problems and scurrilous past. Other than possibly winning this election for the Dems, she's a liability. If she wins then expect a Kaine presidency 6 months in. If she loses, Trump will go after her criminal past. TPTB want to stop those avenues of inquiry ASAP, so expect an announcement in about 3 months that she died quietly in her sleep.

Buh-bye HRC... good riddance, and expect to burn in the flames of hell forever.

Blogger Mish in Utah October 26, 2016 12:23 PM  

@102
Good point about Trump's kids. I'll definitely use that.
Family values? Well we take adultery seriously here. Just think of general US values forty or fifty years ago and that's Utah.
BTW Trump's stand on abortion in the debate really resonated with my immigrant friend.
Social conservatives like myself may cringe at the foul language of the web, but what convinced me to back Trump was John C. Wright and others pointing out that every other election we were expected to hold our nose and vote for the likes of RINO McCain. That and Vox asking, what have conservatives conserved? It's time to take the gloves off.
OK, sorry for rambling, thanks for the input. I'm ordering a yard sign now and I'll try to talk my infirm grandmother into early voting. Gotta check on whether they'll have wheelchairs as she can't handle lines.

Anonymous Bio Cult Beam Delta October 26, 2016 12:28 PM  

Do you even read this blog? More legal immigration from Pakistan is clearly what is needed to Make America Great Again.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 26, 2016 12:47 PM  

Democrats always do well in the preseason polls. Then they play the games.

Then they are Notre Dame.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 26, 2016 12:52 PM  

To understand Utah and other prominent conservative Mormon's point of view look up the statement put out by the Church of Latter day Saints on immigration. That is where they are coming from on all of this. They don't like the idea of deporting people who entered the country illegally.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 26, 2016 1:00 PM  

Yesterday, I wrote:

First day of early voting in Florida has 133,041 Democrats and 109,034 Republicans, plus 42,724 unaffiliateds.

But for Florida mail-in votes, Republicans are ahead of Democrats 556,058 to 525,076, and the gap in favor of Republicans has been increasing at least for the past week.

We all know that the Dems and the Clinton machine have organized GOTV efforts, but that suggests they're more likely to blow their wad early. We should expect them to be ahead on the first day, and probably the first week as well. The Republicans have to vote on their own initiative, and they sort of dribble in the whole time until Election Day.

But if the mail-in votes are any indication, the Republicans may pull ahead later in the coming days or weeks.


Second day of Florida early voting:
Democrats now total 256,593 and Republicans 225,962, plus 89,273 unaffiliateds.

This means that during the second day of voting, 123,552 Democrats voted, 116,928 Republicans, and 46,549 unaffiliateds.

Difference from the first day: -9,489 Democrats, +7,894 Republicans, +3,825 unaffiliateds.

Also, in mail-in ballots, Republicans have increased their lead from +30,982 to +36,361.

It looks like my observations are coming true.

Blogger dh October 26, 2016 1:07 PM  

86 comments in and dh hasn't weighed in yet....

What's there to say? Independents and undecideds are making up their mind. Exactly as I have foretold. Elections always tighten closer to election day. It's axiomatic. Paint drys. Water wet. Periods of light followed periods of darkness.

Blogger Teri October 26, 2016 1:09 PM  

@99,

I'd tell her that Trump has publicly admitted that he screwed up his first marriage and that he was wrong to do so. He is on good terms with his ex-wives. And, as has been mentioned, he has great kids.

I would ask her if any other candidate in recent history has come out as bluntly against late term abortion. He referred to it as "ripping the baby out of the womb" and said that no one had the rights to do that.

And, if we are talking family values, how could anyone support Hillary and Bill? If she's leaning towards McMuffin, ask her why that guy should get a vote if he wasn't willing to do the hard work of running for President.

Blogger Cail Corishev October 26, 2016 1:16 PM  

@110, yes, that's pretty much what McMuffin said: it's all about maintaining the status quo on trade and cheap labor.

Blogger Alexander October 26, 2016 1:19 PM  

@99

I'm not Mormon and I'm not from the Mountain states, so I'll discount you the $0.02.

Utah is in the enviable position where its citizens can give priority to marital fidelity because Salt Lake City is not Atlanta, Memphis, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Baltimore, Washington, Cleveland, Chicago...

Hillary will ensure that Utah never has to worry about family values ever again.

Maybe Utah has the 'it couldn't happen here' mindset and so the above is too abstract. But that's the future they're gambling their people against.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 26, 2016 1:24 PM  

Anyone else see the "Goldwater Gambit" on TV?

Crooked Hillary has some retiree who claims he was an officer at a missile base (shows footage supposedly of ICBM launch control...possibly lifted from a Cold-War Era propaganda movie) and he castigates Trump (several video clips, a few seconds each, of Trump speeches saying "I'll bomb them" and other such stuff).

The only thing missing from the anti-Goldwater ad from 1964 is the mushroom cloud.
https://youtu.be/dDTBnsqxZ3k

The opinion of the DNC about voter intelligence must be even lower than my own.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 26, 2016 1:27 PM  

He finally said it! Trump said that Hillary's policies will lead to war with Russia/ WW3
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-says-clinton-policy-syria-lead-world-192023608.html

Blogger RC October 26, 2016 1:30 PM  

@Mish,

Trumps statement on abortion in the third debate was very forthright and strong. That should help when compared to Hillary's death stance. Then boil it down to this: Do you want your grandchildren to live in a nation or in a globalist hell hole? While Utah has generally escaped the pain of the invasion thus far, in ten years Salt Lake City will be what Nashville is now, not good.

Blogger RC October 26, 2016 1:56 PM  

@119: At least they're going to prison. That be a big improvement for DC.

Anonymous Deplorable S E Delenda October 26, 2016 2:05 PM  

McMuffin is ex CIA and ex Goldman Sachs. He was the "policy director" for the House Repub Conference who defected and is now running against the Republican nominee. No acrimony from any Republicuck on the matter, and not at all surprising.

Of course "win lose or draw", I'm leaving the Whigs after the election too. I have nothing in common with the rent-seekers in Chamber of Commerce, the K Street weevils, or any other group that funds the Repubs. They are worthless bankers.




Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 26, 2016 2:09 PM  

@197 Mish in Utah
Family values? Well we take adultery seriously here

Ok, then re-electing Bill Clinton for a 3rd term should be totally off the table.

Next up: y'all take murder seriously too, right?

Anonymous Gr8 Again October 26, 2016 2:19 PM  

Regarding the DNC Machine in Philly, I sperged out and looked up the stats. There is no evidence that suggests the strongly pro-Obama counties had significantly higher voter turnout than other counties.

In 2012, 43.5% of Pennsylvanians voted for either Romney or Obama. (A handful voted for others.) The strongest pro-Obama county, Philadelphia, had a 42.5% voter turnout percentage. The highest turnouts were in the Philly suburbs: Bucks (50.5% turnout), Montgomery (49.7%), Chester (49.2%) and Delaware (48.3%) plus Allegheny county (Pittsburg) with a turnout of 49.7%. Most of these suburbs were marginally pro-Obama, but the higher turnout is likely to be simply the fact that upper middle class people vote more than poor and lower middle class.

Anonymous Ironsides October 26, 2016 2:37 PM  

I'm not a Mormon, but --

You're not electing Trump to run your family -- that's your job, not his. You're electing Trump to run the United States of America. And he's the candidate who will actually try to keep it the United States of America, instead of turning it into the United Nations of Looting Americans for the Sake of Foreigners.

My random idea on something to say, with modifications.

Blogger Anchorman October 26, 2016 3:15 PM  

Mormons don’t sweat immigration, legal or illegal, because their church makes missionary work practically mandatory.

They may see some of the effects in SLC, but they don’t really live with it, like folks in Arizona, Texas, California, etc. More than anyone, they probably buy into “magic dirt.”

I still can’t see how a Mormon in good standing could vote for Hillary. It would almost have to be a protest vote against Trump. But at what cost? Electing a woman who would set their churches on fire if she walked through the doors?

I don’t know any Mormons, though. The closest I get is my brother lived in Salt Lake City for years.

Blogger Mish in Utah October 26, 2016 3:41 PM  

My parents were Cruz people, but they shifted to Trump without much distress. Even during the primaries, my mother loved it when Trump stood up to the press. They've followed politics for years and were tired of the bias. They loved the second debate. Hmm, they are the ones I need to ask about this.
Immigration is important, yes, but all y'all are correct in that Utah has so far not suffered much, so I think that's a non starter. Too many people invested in being "nice" plus lots and lots of returned missionaries with fond memories of foreign peoples.
Thanks everyone for the ideas.

Anonymous Deplorable S E Delenda October 26, 2016 3:42 PM  

@112

Hello Henry.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 26, 2016 3:42 PM  

Joseph Smith; interesting Alpha/Sigma combo
Brigham Young: Stone cold Alpha.
list of Alphas with a few Betas
Current presidency: cucked as fuck. Gamma

Blogger VFM #7634 October 26, 2016 3:49 PM  

@127 Snidely Whiplash

If you think about it, even though Smith and Young were Alphas, the LDS religion itself is essentially tailor-made for Gammas.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 26, 2016 3:59 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:the LDS religion itself is essentially tailor-made for Gammas.
Like Christianity used to, they work hard at making sure that everybody, including Gammas get a decent wife. I'm not sure how that worked back in the polygamy days.
But Alphas don't like other Alphas horning in on their territory. Especially when the other Alpha says "cool it on the pussy bro."

Take a look at the breakaway Mormon sects sometime. My wife is related to this guy.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 26, 2016 4:19 PM  

Like Christianity used to, they work hard at making sure that everybody, including Gammas get a decent wife.

@129 Snidely
I'm not really convinced that's really the reason, since Christians historically were like that.

If I had to speculate, I'd say that religions that put a high level of social control and pressure on their members (Mormonism, Islam, SJWism, and possibly Judaism) will tend to get overloaded with Gammas.

Blogger Thucydides October 26, 2016 5:19 PM  

Much of the anecdotal evidence seems to come from "Red" counties, but the bulk of the "Blue" vote is concentrated in the urban areas. And of course the urban areas are where the globalized live and work, and where all the fraud and manipulation will happen.

Ever stop to wonder why even "Blue" states often have large swaths of "Red" counties, but are reliably in the Democrat ledger anyway?

So I do hope and pray for a victory by Trump, and by extension the American people (when the United States finally implodes and catches fire, we Canadians will be burned as well), but I hope my American friends have plan "B" ready if the Dems do steal the election.

Anonymous BGKB October 26, 2016 5:26 PM  

The only thing missing from the anti-Goldwater ad from 1964 is the mushroom cloud.

The same actor who lied about being a republican that couldn't vote Goldwater is playing a Republican who can't vote TRUMP, even admitted here http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/clinton-campaign-reprises-anti-goldwater-ad-1964

The opinion of the DNC about voter intelligence must be even lower than my own

WikiLeaks showed she called them a "bucket of losers"

Mish in Utah Family values? Well we take adultery seriously here

Is murdering Bill's whores a family value?

including Gammas get a decent wife. I'm not sure how that worked back in the polygamy days.

I guess if you wanted more than one wife you had to take harridans & hags.

Anonymous Yay Trump October 26, 2016 5:35 PM  

dh, Trump's getting 19% and 29% of the black vote in OH and PA according to those polls. One would think that merited some comment.

Anonymous Daedalus Mugged October 26, 2016 5:37 PM  

Gr8 Again, go look at the division level results. The fact checkers focused on the 59 divisions (a division is pretty small, it is a neighborhood polling place, there are hundreds of them), Romney got no votes. Hey, he didn't do well in black neighborhoods, no biggie. The Fraud isn't the 'no Romney votes' but in the turnout. Numerous divisions came in at 100% turnout, and many at 90% plus. A few hundred votes at a pop. But it makes a huge difference. Take for example, 32nd ward, 28th division. Not on the '59 with no Romney vote' list because there was 1 Romney vote. But it did throw the R election monitor out, and it did have exceptionally high turnout.

My understanding of the mechanics is they vote all day, and as they are shutting down, the D's vote for (some/enough/all) people who didn't show up for D. That is why they had to chase the R monitors out...and where it is obviously bogus when they voted everyone rather than almost everyone. The 'fact checkers' are all saying '99%, even 100% in black neighborhoods is not evidence of fraud' and they're right. The 95+% turnout in those districts is. Philly as a whole might have averaged out low turnout demographics with high turnout fraud, mixes of 25% turnout with monitors, and 95% without. But make no mistake, there was material fraud in Philly, to the tune of at least 100k. Voters in Philly favored Obama, but not by 557k for Obama to 91k for Romney. 3 to 1, absolutely, 4 to 1, possibly, over 6 to 1, no. In the deepest red part of the state, no where did the vote exceed 3 to 1 the other way. Here is a link to an article where Michael Barone, very gently, points to the turnout issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/pa-officials-plan-no-probe-despite-extraordinary-turnout-totals-for-obama-in.html

Blogger Marty October 26, 2016 6:12 PM  

Yes I do read this blog, everyday. I don't agree with immigration from Pakistan. I'm just relaying an anecdote of someone whom I wouldn't expect to be pro-Trump and his reasons.

Blogger sorrowen88 October 26, 2016 6:26 PM  

So much for Hillary being Ahead lol.

Anonymous CorkyAgain October 26, 2016 6:57 PM  

@42, What is a "whitepill"? When I read that I thought "aspirin" as a cure for a headache, but somehow I don't think that is how it's being used here.

Blogger SirHamster October 26, 2016 7:03 PM  

CorkyAgain wrote:@42, What is a "whitepill"? When I read that I thought "aspirin" as a cure for a headache, but somehow I don't think that is how it's being used here.

As opposed to blackpill, compare to redpill/bluepill.

AFAIK, hopeful(white)/cynical(black) vs. reality(red)/illusion(blue).

Blogger Rusty Fife October 26, 2016 8:17 PM  

SirHamster wrote:AFAIK, hopeful(white)/cynical(black) vs. reality(red)/illusion(blue).

I was thinking it was some sort of 1488 meme-attempt for WN.

Anonymous Forty October 26, 2016 10:13 PM  

Farage gave his concession speech before brexit won because he believed internal polling. Remember, if the public polls arent rigged the internal polls arent any more accurate

Anonymous forty October 26, 2016 10:17 PM  

I think the intent is to motivate the snowflakes.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 27, 2016 12:18 PM  

41. Jamie-R October 26, 2016 9:24 AM
Donald J Trump, he running the game and Magnificent bout his cash


how do i know Trump is for realz, yo?

he's got Jamie-damn-R rapping again, that's how.




98. Pittsburgh October 26, 2016 11:36 AM
I live in Pittsburgh as well, and travel all around the southwestern PA region. I am not seeing Trump or Clinton material anywhere.



you need better bullshit.

i deliver to Apollo, PA, there are Trump signs everywhere, all over PA, WV ( i like Blazin Burger in Strasburg O and often take US 22 / 250 back ) and OH.

i'm finally starting to see some Hillary signs come up, some in oddball rural places like Willshire Ohio, but they remain FAR outnumbered by Trump signs.



Anonymous Pittsburgh October 27, 2016 1:16 PM  

@142

So if it doesn't conform to your personal narrative its bullshit?

I don't care if you deliver to Apollo, I actually live in the region. There are not Trump signs all over PA, nor are there Hillary signs. I could literally drive around my the area for hours, going neighborhood to neighborhood and would see fewer then 10 signs for any Presidential candidate.

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