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Tuesday, October 04, 2016

VP Debate

This is an open thread to discuss the Pence-Kaine debate tonight.

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Blogger ghostfromplanetspook October 04, 2016 7:07 PM  

Pence will bring the pain to Kaine!

Anonymous Samson J. October 04, 2016 7:14 PM  

It feels like the whole world is waiting with bated breath this week...

Blogger Ingot9455 October 04, 2016 7:14 PM  

My money's on a 25% belly-shelf from Kaine.

Blogger Ingot9455 October 04, 2016 7:14 PM  

My money's on a 25% belly-shelf from Kaine.

Anonymous Marien October 04, 2016 7:17 PM  

Mike Pence quote:

"I long for the day that Roe v. Wade is sent to the ash heap of history."

Lots of triggering at r/politics. They didn't import voters fast enough to cover their sub-replacement fertility. The triggering should continue when the realize that many of the voters they imported, i.e., Catholic latinos, despise abortion.

Blogger Kallmunz October 04, 2016 7:23 PM  

Let's face it, Kaine is no Pence dispenser.

Anonymous VFMUltra October 04, 2016 7:28 PM  

Marien please tell me you didn't just trot out the muh "natural conservatives" argument in disguise. You are either very new or worst troll evar.

Anonymous Dubya October 04, 2016 7:36 PM  

@5 @7

Lahk I sayud, fambly VALues don't stop at th' Reeo Grand.

Anonymous Marien October 04, 2016 7:44 PM  

@7 Latinos aren't natural "conservatives;" certainly not GOP Republicans. But they measurably less opt for abortion than their non-Hispanic counterparts.

"According to the Public Religion Research Institute report, Latino Millennials overwhelming stand in opposition to abortion. Hispanic Catholic Millennials (55 percent) and Hispanic Protestant Millennials (61 percent) stated that abortion should be illegal in most or all cases."

Blogger RCR_Chris October 04, 2016 7:50 PM  

Even if they despise abortion, they don't consider it particularly important.

Catholic Latinos still vote Democrat 4 to 1.

Blogger Johnny October 04, 2016 8:02 PM  

Abortion is a wedge issue for conservatives. That is why the make so much of it.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 04, 2016 8:09 PM  

Johnny wrote:Abortion is a wedge issue for conservatives. That is why the make so much of it.

I think you mean it's a wedge issue for cucks. They never intend to solve the problem. They just want people to vote for them until they can't reap enough votes off of pro-lifers.

Blogger Escoffier October 04, 2016 8:13 PM  

Marien isn't it strange then that Mexico is decriminalizing abortion...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Mexico

Blogger sorrowen88 October 04, 2016 8:30 PM  

Hopefully he does well as it seems polls are now biased..towered Hillary.

Anonymous Marien October 04, 2016 8:36 PM  

@13 Mexico's supreme court voted, 3 to 1, against legalizing abortion in June of this year.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope October 04, 2016 8:39 PM  

For cuckservatives, abortion is their best fund raising issue. They will never, ever, take any kind of effective action to cut into their best money generator and outrage farming field that might make an impact.

I realized this over 15 years ago. Too bad most who identify as conservatives haven't woken up yet.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 8:41 PM  

ot

>Polish Women Hold 'Black Monday' Strike To Protest Proposed Abortion Ban<

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/04/496526099/polish-women-hold-black-monday-strike-to-protest-proposed-abortion-ban

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 8:47 PM  

I dunno if I want to watch Kaine - he strikes me as a half drunk used car salesman.

How do you evaluate a VP debate? Last one I remember, Biden made a yuuuge ass of himself, and still considered as won it.

Blogger Random October 04, 2016 8:51 PM  

D. wrote:Polish Women Hold 'Black Monday' Strike

Aaaand no one gave a shit. The trains still ran on time, the power plants kept the lights on. I suppose some essential powerpoint presentations went unfinished.

Blogger Chris McCullough October 04, 2016 8:51 PM  

Why don't conservatives raise a bigger stink about moderators? Why not have one candidate pick one each and then flip a coin for the third?

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 8:57 PM  

Lets hope its not fixed like the last debate. Recent admission sound engineers played with the TRUMPS sound levels for the sniffles, and more on the light on Hilldogs podium which was controlled by someone else.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/04/debate-gate-is-no-longer-conspiracy-theory/#more-122707
"If what the debate commission says is true, then Why wasn’t Donald Trump’s lectern lit?

Secondly, and more importantly, the natural follow-up to such an explanation would have been: “Who was in charge of this light, turning it on and off”? It was obviously not the candidate herself. So who was in control of it?

That’s the question, that becomes uncomfortable to answer… because it instantly confirms an external party -separate from the candidate- was in control of an electronic medium connected to the lectern of that candidate"

Blogger Johnny October 04, 2016 8:59 PM  

Chris McCullough wrote:Why don't conservatives raise a bigger stink about moderators? Why not have one candidate pick one each and then flip a coin for the third?

What I have noticed about conservatives is that they are not as good at propaganda as the other side. And what is a bigger deal, lots of them fail to appreciate the need for selling the agenda. They just don't get it. Every now and then there is somebody I would like to slap them around a little and then yell in their face, "Get your head out of your butt, they are screwing you over!"

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:00 PM  

>Aaaand no one gave a shit.<

It is interesting that Poland already bans abortion except for: rape, incest etc. This law would eliminate those exceptions. Compare/contrast to GOPe!

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 04, 2016 9:03 PM  

@marien

So what?

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:04 PM  

>Why don't conservatives raise a bigger stink about moderators? <

President Trump, as leader of the Republican Party, should withdraw from the Presidential Debate apparatus. Let the nominees negotiate not the parties.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 04, 2016 9:06 PM  

In 3-D terms what are the goals for this babble fest?

IMO Pence needs to come across as serious and not dangerous, Kaine has to try to push buttons.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:07 PM  

>65 years ago< yea go kaine

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 04, 2016 9:08 PM  

This isn't fair: all Pence has to do is sound like a normal guy. Kaine has to sound like a black woman for the entire thing.

Blogger Escoffier October 04, 2016 9:09 PM  

And yet at least 130,000 babies have been aborted.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 04, 2016 9:09 PM  

This is boilerplate so far.

Blogger Johnny October 04, 2016 9:09 PM  

D. wrote:>Why don't conservatives raise a bigger stink about moderators? <

President Trump, as leader of the Republican Party, should withdraw from the Presidential Debate apparatus. Let the nominees negotiate not the parties.


I suspect the situation as the Trump campaign sees it is that Trump has to act as conventional and non scarry from here on in. Keep in mind the press will hammer him no matter what he does. They would have a lot of fun if he dropped out of the debates.

Anonymous The OASF October 04, 2016 9:11 PM  

Pence just put a shameless plug in there for immigration. Unbelievable.

Blogger Salt October 04, 2016 9:11 PM  

Hillary's passion prior to entering politics -

Saul Alinsky.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:12 PM  

>I suspect the situation as the Trump campaign sees it is that Trump has to act as conventional <

I'm talking about after the "Trumpslide"

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 9:13 PM  

That cunts bias is already obvious.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:15 PM  

kaine is the "happy idiot"

Anonymous mature craig October 04, 2016 9:16 PM  

Tim Kaine comes across like a guest on the Jerry Springer show.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 04, 2016 9:16 PM  

Kaine defending Clinton's record as SecState.

Chick having a difficult time getting a word in sideways.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 04, 2016 9:19 PM  

Pence is getting some body blows in. Hammered home the clinton foundation. Called her out for doing a crap job on negotiating the withdrawal from Iraq. Calling Kaine out for being a bad governor.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:20 PM  

kaine: " free shit army we be for y'all"

Anonymous mature craig October 04, 2016 9:20 PM  

Trump picking Pence shows that he has good judgement

Anonymous David October 04, 2016 9:21 PM  

And Kaine is doing as I thought he would, interrupting at every opportunity. Total waste of time.

Blogger Ingot9455 October 04, 2016 9:22 PM  

Kaine is over interrupting from question one. Pence is Race Bannon.

Anonymous Turner Ashby October 04, 2016 9:22 PM  

It's amazing how much Kaine looks like Richard Nixon. Same eyes, same Spock ears, same nose, same smallish mouth.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 04, 2016 9:25 PM  

They are desperate to keep bringing up the tax issue. Hit him hard and shove it down his throat. Ask if Hillary is going to release all of her Clinton Foundation related emails. Then point out there is the potential for much worse abuse to be found in her emails than Trump legally following the tax code.

Blogger HanSolo October 04, 2016 9:26 PM  

Kaine comes across as a whiny gamma weasel.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:28 PM  

a "fair" moderator would tell kaine to stfu

Anonymous mature craig October 04, 2016 9:29 PM  

I think the democratic party might have something they can point to that they did that was good in social security

Blogger Lazarus October 04, 2016 9:30 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:They are desperate to keep bringing up the tax issue.

Clinton Campaign Admits Hillary Used Same Tax Avoidance "Scheme" As Trump

ZH headline from oct 3.... don't the Trump team read?

Anonymous Deplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair October 04, 2016 9:30 PM  

Kaine is an avowed Communist. Pence should've hit back at the NYT not paying taxes. Kaine has beta face all over. Whines like a bitch.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:31 PM  

Cuck Kaine is an irritating drunk used car salesman.

Anonymous The OASF October 04, 2016 9:31 PM  

Overall Pence is doing a very good job... he even got a Reagan moment in there.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 04, 2016 9:32 PM  

A fair moderator would threatened to cut off Kaine's mic.

I've rarely seen a man who more begged to be bitch-slapped unconscious. The guy's entire presentation is like nails on a chalkboard.

He reminds me of Truman Capote.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:32 PM  

Kaine makes me want to punch a Democrat just on principle.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 9:33 PM  

" Pence is Race Bannon. "
I've been thinking the same thing for a while now.
Goot gawd, Kaine is one pissy little queer.

Blogger Salt October 04, 2016 9:33 PM  

Kaine is rude. It's funny too, as Pence agrees with Kaine on police, Kaine isn't being rude.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:35 PM  

You know who Pence reminds me of - is Damien Dhark from Arrow - it's the hair or something.

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 9:36 PM  

Castile was a CRIPS TYCOON GANGSTER providing kids for sex. Also had videos of himself diving while smoking pot with a kid in the car.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:37 PM  

Sen Scott: playing Black over Republican

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:37 PM  

http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Damien_Darhk

I mean only in regards as appearance -

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 9:38 PM  

Goot gawd, Kaine is one pissy little queer.

Not All Prissy Little Queers Are Like That

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:38 PM  

Kaine has not been punch in the face enough - that's his problem.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 9:39 PM  

Affirmative Action moderators suck.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:39 PM  

Deport Cuck Kaine to North Korea

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett October 04, 2016 9:39 PM  

I'll accept Race Bannon, but he reminds me of Col Hannibal Smith with a flat affect.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:40 PM  

WTF is Kaine doing, scratching off lottery tickets?

Anonymous FP October 04, 2016 9:41 PM  

"Kaine is over interrupting from question one. Pence is Race Bannon."

Now that you mention it, hah.

I almost feel sorry for the debate chicklet. They've been talking over each other from the start. Kaine keeps interjecting, "I want to respond to that".

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 04, 2016 9:41 PM  

What were the ground rules for tonight's debates? Allinsky's?

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:41 PM  

yea the cbs bitch enforces the rules on pence

Blogger U PC BRO? October 04, 2016 9:42 PM  

Fucking SJW playing the apology game.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 04, 2016 9:42 PM  

Kaine really is a whiney bitch. He is just going on a straw man tirade here. Unfortunately it will probably work with the average voter. The GOP needs to get wise and just paint with the broad brush right back at them.

"Hillary hates cops. Hillary hates law and order. Hillary has her own crime syndicate that protects her when she commits FELONYS. Hillary hates all trump supporters. Hillary wants to confiscate money from all working Americans that don't bribe her."

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:42 PM  

Is Cuck Kaine a gamma ?

Blogger dc.sunsets October 04, 2016 9:43 PM  

The Leftist cult is obviously still 100% in control & so questions for Pence end up being the equivalent of "when did you stop beating your wife?"

Imagine if Pence uttered a hint of race realism (i.e., blacks commit 70% of robberies.)

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:45 PM  

kaine be faggot

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 9:45 PM  

WTF is Kaine doing, scratching off lottery tickets?

That's the Clinton econ plan.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 04, 2016 9:46 PM  

Pretty sure Kaine has Johnny Quest in his crawlspace. Time for Pence to spring into action.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 9:46 PM  

Is that flip twat going to stop Polly Pissypants from interrupting Race Bannon ?

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:48 PM  

kaine: blah blah bin laden blah blah bin laden blah blah miss universe blah blah

Blogger Ezekiel October 04, 2016 9:48 PM  

My god Kaine is getting the floor mopped.

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 9:48 PM  

Fuck I thought it was seal team 6 that killed Bin Laden, not hilldog

Blogger Kevin Meyer October 04, 2016 9:48 PM  

Kaine looks dopey......reminds me of Clem Kaddidlehopper.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 04, 2016 9:49 PM  

I really don't understand what Republicans get out of showing up or these debates. They don't even insist on right wingers as moderators for their primary debates.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:49 PM  

When Kaine is speaking, the hills are alive with the sounds of bullshit.

Blogger Ezekiel October 04, 2016 9:49 PM  

*Pence is mopping the floor with Kaine

Sorry, probably shouldn't comment when eating, watching TV and watching kids.

Anonymous FP October 04, 2016 9:50 PM  

Kaine just cited the Iranian nuke program being stopped as a reason terrorism has stopped...

Pence is cool and in control so far. Kaine constantly interrupting when Pence speaks. Good response by Pence over the border deportation force.

Kaine: "What is so comical about nuclear war...".

Blogger Lazarus October 04, 2016 9:50 PM  

The only thing that matters to the females watching, is who has the best hair.

Pence has the best hair.

debate over.

Blogger Ezekiel October 04, 2016 9:51 PM  

Frank Luntz:
"Mike Pence is better at explaining Trump's policies than Donald Trump is."

It's true.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett October 04, 2016 9:52 PM  

DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO PUT KIM JONG UN ON MT RUSHMORE!!! I know because the man with the candy and van said so.

Anonymous Jimmy October 04, 2016 9:52 PM  

As far as the persuasion-level part of this debate goes, my wife got up and stated, "I don't like that guy's smile, he looks like a creep (Kaine). And the other guy's eyes are kinder."

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 9:52 PM  

Tuned to the debate 30 minutes after it started. Is Pence constipated. He acts as if he is in pain.
Keanw is such target rich environment and Pence is failing to hit too many of them.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 9:54 PM  

https://imgflip.com/i/1bs6kn

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 9:54 PM  

"Kaine looks dopey......reminds me of Clem Kaddidlehopper."
At least Red Skelton was funny , Kevin. Polly Pissypants is dead serious.

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 9:54 PM  

kaine: stupid, unhinged faggot(((discrimination)))

Blogger Lazarus October 04, 2016 9:55 PM  

The lack of shills and even negative comments from Trump supporters lead me to believe no one really cares about VP debates.

That is too bad, because the little I have seen of Pence has me wondering if it would be best that Trump win and then get assassinated.

( I kid, I kid )

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett October 04, 2016 9:55 PM  

My pinko wife just texted me " the moderator seems awfully biased toward Democrats"

Anonymous mature craig October 04, 2016 9:56 PM  

Democrats are the jihadists best friend

OpenID boardroomal October 04, 2016 9:58 PM  

You know watching the pundit tweets, etc ,especially the "NeverTrumpers" I think the Establishment somehow regardless of what happens, think they are actually going to get away with their "Muh Principles" crap...I think they are delusional that they think they can stop this train regardless of outcome....I'm going to enjoy gassing these weasels out of their "Muh Principle" holes...once this election is over.

It is an amazing thing to watch these a-holes

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 9:58 PM  

"DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO PUT KIM JONG UN ON MT RUSHMORE!!! I know because the man with the candy and van said so."
Cha-ching ! Much teh funneh, Hezekiah.

Anonymous FP October 04, 2016 9:58 PM  

What is an intelligence surge? And debate chick was going to move on without Pence being able to respond...

And bingo.... email server brought up. Debate chick... move away move away.. Governor I'd like to ask you a question...

"We are moving on now." "Gentlemen please!"

Blogger BunE22 October 04, 2016 9:58 PM  

Race Bannon is dreamy.

I remember when the worst that "home grown" meant was pot.

Kaine looks like he'd be at home in the mob. I'm a female, and I want to punch him in the face, but then most democrats cause that reaction in me.

Anonymous Virginia Irredenta October 04, 2016 9:58 PM  

@83 and @86, as a woman, let me say that I agree with your (86's) wife, and yes, 83, Pence does have the best hair. He's handsomer, too. Kaine keeps simpering.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:00 PM  

@96 BunE22
Kaine looks like he'd be at home in the mob. I'm a female, and I want to punch him in the face,
---

That's why i asked if he is a gamma. he is causing a reaction in me I want to punch him in the face, and then bulldog him into a lake.

Anonymous Deplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair October 04, 2016 10:00 PM  

E-mail server brought up! Also, I understand that Pence has to play R2P but I could care less about Syria, minus Christians there. Let Russia, Iran, Hizballah and mercenaries bleed.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:01 PM  

Allepo ! Where is dude weed when you need an expert on Allepo ?

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:01 PM  

I do not care for Kaine.
Pence, we have the smallest navy since 1916?

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 10:03 PM  

kaine: 9/11 trump doesn't pay taxes

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:04 PM  

Thought this was funny

Gov. Mike HuckabeeVerified account
‏@GovMikeHuckabee
Kaine appears to have had a tall glass of vinegar; Pence appears to have had some good Southern sweet tea. Demeanor matters!

Blogger Matt October 04, 2016 10:04 PM  

Show strength, bomb targets...

Don't they realize no one's earning when guys go to the mattresses?

Blogger D. October 04, 2016 10:05 PM  

turned off too stupid

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:05 PM  

uSA to enforce a no fly zone in Syria? What is the difference with the Democrats?

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 10:05 PM  

Pence, we have the smallest navy since 1916?

Not only that but sailors have to take Tranny Training.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:06 PM  

I wish that damn woman would shut up. She's as bad as Kweerdog Kane.

Blogger Lazarus October 04, 2016 10:06 PM  

So much bullshite, so little time.

Anonymous Deplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair October 04, 2016 10:06 PM  

Pence to Kaine: Do you even deduct, bro?

Yes, our navy is the smallest since WWI. So he was off two years.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:08 PM  

@108 jOHN MOSBY
I wish that damn woman would shut up.
---

It'll be on my tombstone

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:08 PM  

" Kaine appears to have had a tall glass of vinegar; Pence appears to have had some good Southern sweet tea. Demeanor matters! "
Gotta love the Huck.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:09 PM  

Yranny nonsense not withstanding, we do not have a 1916 size navy. We spend more in the military than the next 20 countries put together.

Blogger Nick Siekierski October 04, 2016 10:10 PM  

Just tuned in for a few minutes. Pence is the shitlib incarnate. Sniping little weasel.

Anonymous FP October 04, 2016 10:11 PM  

Hillary has gone toe to toe with Russian. Guys, guys.. and again the taxes are brought up yet again by Senator Vinegar.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:11 PM  

Lets shrink the navy some more, I say.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:13 PM  

Here's another funny


Chuck Woolery
‏@chuckwoolery
Kaine has crossed the line of sanity. He is insane.Throw as much crap up against the wall and see if anything sticks,as it slides like slime

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 10:13 PM  

We spend more in the military than the next 20 countries put together.

Have you seen any of the crappy soldier stuff I post on Tom Kratman's spot? We are not getting what we pay for.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:13 PM  

" It'll be on my tombstone "
Edgy humor, me likee.

Anonymous 10/4 October 04, 2016 10:14 PM  

Debate is all about feelings/leaving an impression?

Pence speaking: feel calm. Kaine speaking, feel agitated.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:15 PM  

Oops. Typo. 10 countries.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:15 PM  

And yet another good observation

Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 4m4 minutes ago
By not holding Kaine back, she is actually hurting Kaine.

Blogger tridekka October 04, 2016 10:15 PM  

@98 it's not just the gamma, it's the gamma with a solid dash of leering pedo thrown in which evokes that feeling

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:15 PM  

Kaine typical swindler. Pence looks constipated.

Anonymous Lazy Hero October 04, 2016 10:16 PM  

Kaine is not just a fag, he's a super fag.

Blogger Cerdic Ricing October 04, 2016 10:16 PM  

@111

From what I've seen, she seems to be walked all over. It's as I expected. Why would you try to have a woman be in charge of a debate between two men. Even Kaine, whom I of course dislike, is having some sport in the confrontation with another man. There is no way in hell she is going to stop them from talking. I just watched where she wants to get them to talk about Russia, and neither could give a shit. I was sitting there grinning as both of them ignored everything that lady (this is my Southern slang for bitch, I probably should've just wrote that, but here I am) said. You'd think these people would understand that this'd be the case, but here we are, watching this lady trying to moderate this thing quite ineffectively. I think most of us men could care less what she says, and are more interested in the sport of the confrontation between the two of them. I didn't really start watching until recently, but I can already tell that I enjoy it much more than the Trump vs. Clinton debate. I think it's in the base instinct of man to accept a challenge, so seeing the both of them fight it out is much more entertaining than the presidential debate was, at least in my perspective.

As for that specific quote, I might put that on mine as well. The world would be much better if that would be the case extrapolated amongst all men.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:17 PM  

Just saw Kaine do a hand signal to the ref

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 04, 2016 10:18 PM  

Pence is impressive.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:18 PM  

So, what is the difference, in substance, being articulated by Kaine and Pence with regards to foreign interventions?

Blogger Troy Lee Messer October 04, 2016 10:18 PM  

Pence is kicking ass, IMHO.

Anonymous FP October 04, 2016 10:19 PM  

Pence brings up Pay to play by the Clinton Foundation.

And Kaine responds that its damn near better in helping aids patients and drug addicts than the Red Cross itself!

Trump foundation has tentacles all over the world!11!!

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:21 PM  

Pence talking about pay for play. and damn if the broad didn't interrupt before I could type this out.
Big surprise, huh ?

Blogger hank.jim October 04, 2016 10:21 PM  

Pence is way too reserved for this debate. Kaine is hitting Trump very hard while Pence isn't getting his argument through. Pence should raise his energy level a bit and interrupt Kaine much more.

Blogger Lazarus October 04, 2016 10:21 PM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:So, what is the difference, in substance, being articulated by Kaine and Pence with regards to foreign interventions?

Kaine wants crazy loonie interventions and Pence wants well thought out and delineated interventions.

DUH!

Ya, they both sound like Neocons.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 04, 2016 10:21 PM  

Been watching ten minutes, predict win for Pence in biased mainstream polls. Ref Inductivist blog.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 04, 2016 10:23 PM  

Going to bed. Yawn of a "debate".

Blogger Ezekiel October 04, 2016 10:25 PM  

Someone should keep count of how many times "tax returns" gets used in this debate. Pretty sure he's doing a lot to kill that entire issue.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:25 PM  

Eddycated by Jesuits. Oh you most def have this hardcore Prot's vote.
NOT !

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett October 04, 2016 10:26 PM  

@125. The proper Southron circumlocution for 'bitch' is 'waw-mun', not 'lady'.

Bless your heart.

Blogger Cerdic Ricing October 04, 2016 10:29 PM  

@138 Lady with a sarcastic overtone definitely means bitch, at least in the Carolinas. Woman with a lot of emphasis would work as well.

Blogger cheddarman October 04, 2016 10:29 PM  

Kaine has slight to moderate gay face, imo.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 04, 2016 10:30 PM  

Kaine's left eyebrow seems to have a mind of its own, it goes up and down at odd times, with odd intervals.

Blogger Lazarus October 04, 2016 10:31 PM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:Going to bed. Yawn of a "debate".

Back in the day, they had duels instead of debates. The outcome was harder to spin.

I read JFK's Profiles in Courage awhile back. Can't believe the difference in political discourse. Its like University versus Kindergarten.

Culture's gone to hell. Politics is downstream from culture.

This is the kind of thing they have on IQ tests.

Blogger Nate October 04, 2016 10:32 PM  

Why can't we switch this whole thing up and put pence at the top of the ticket?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 04, 2016 10:32 PM  

Abortion dog whistling to their base.

Kaine "Trust women"
Pence "Protect most vulnerable"

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 10:33 PM  

Eddycated by Jesuits

Kaine will have to show where the Jesuit touched him

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:34 PM  

" Kaine has slight to moderate gay face, imo."
That's beyond full blown, cheddarman. I bet BGKB will back me on this.

Blogger Baelzar October 04, 2016 10:34 PM  

"Why don't you trust women?" "Why don't YOU trust ANYBODY to make their own healthcare decisions?"

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett October 04, 2016 10:34 PM  

Run to Drudge and check out that pic of Kaine! Looks like Checkers Nixon finding out he gets to stay.

Blogger Whisker biscuit October 04, 2016 10:37 PM  

OT: just read a retort to John C Wright's assertions on astrology. He got destroyed. I guess he thought fancy adjectives and Catholic snobbery is an automatic win.

He's great at sci-fi; science not so much.

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 10:38 PM  

200 vets die waiting for the VA, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/4/phoenix-va-builds-new-backlog-200-veterans-die-wai/

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:38 PM  

" Why can't we switch this whole thing up and put pence at the top of the ticket? "
Race Bannon brings balance to the ticket.
Besides, we will need him to take the next8 years after der Trumpenfuhrer.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:38 PM  

HAHAHA

Ricky Vaughn ‏@Ricky_Vaughn99 3m3 minutes ago
Wow. Tim Kaine looks like somebody stole his weekly potato. #VPDebate

Blogger Ezekiel October 04, 2016 10:39 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents wrote:Abortion dog whistling to their base.

Kaine "Trust women"

Pence "Protect most vulnerable"


Republicans need to quit being so damn weepy and stop cucking around on the abortion issue. If you really do think that abortion is murder and that a fetus deserves all the rights of a full-grown child then of course you should support punishments for people who have them. Andrea Yates is still in prison, isn't she?

Blogger hank.jim October 04, 2016 10:39 PM  

Pence gave a good final statement. Very noble and uplifting. Kaine is a jerk.

Blogger Stilicho October 04, 2016 10:41 PM  

Kaine doesn't have gay face, Kaine has prissy repressed homosexual manifesting as pedophile serial killer face.

Blogger Mighty Lou October 04, 2016 10:44 PM  

What's the with the female moderators and fake eye lashes? Megyn Kelly had them too when she had blood coming out of her where ever.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:45 PM  

" Kaine doesn't have gay face, Kaine has prissy repressed homosexual manifesting as pedophile serial killer face. "
Damn! you drove that nail in with one lick, Stilicho.
Excellent.

Blogger tuberman October 04, 2016 10:46 PM  

#143

Because Pence is still mainly an establishment Neocon, and Trump is really outside that and a Nationalist.

Blogger Johnny October 04, 2016 10:49 PM  

Think of it this way. When they picked Kane they wanted somebody who would not overshadow Hillary. Mission accomplished.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:50 PM  

" Run to Drudge and check out that pic of Kaine! Looks like Checkers Nixon finding out he gets to stay. "
Dude, you are most def hittin' on all 8 tonite!
Thanks, Hezekiah.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 04, 2016 10:51 PM  

This is the meme I got from a Drudge photo
https://i.imgflip.com/1bs9na.jpg

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 10:54 PM  

" This is the meme I got from a Drudge photo "
Very good, sir. Gotta go, the Huck is on vs Lanny the lameass.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett October 04, 2016 10:55 PM  

@160. Thanks, good sir. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

Anonymous BGKB October 04, 2016 10:56 PM  

23% of US school kids immigrants http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/census-record-42.4m-immigrants-23-of-school-kids-muslims-biggest-jump/article/2603543

Awkward http://freebeacon.com/politics/5-tidbits-clinton-staffers-hacked-emails/

Mooch had BLM prevented from her speech and you couldn't make this up
Keep Bill Clinton out of little girls locker rooms
"3. Bill Clinton Waited in Girls’ Locker Room Before Speech, Requested Diet Iced Gatorade

Emails about a Bill Clinton rally at a New Mexico middle school in June show that the former president requested “hot tea with lemon and honey” and diet “iced Gatorade.” The former president waited in a girls’ locker room before the event."

Blogger cheddarman October 04, 2016 11:02 PM  

Putin needs to bitch slap Trump and tell him to stay on message the next 5 weeks.

Anonymous mature craig October 04, 2016 11:03 PM  

I go thru this cycle of getting mad at democrats going off on them on then internet then thinking well maybe theyre not so bad. Maybe im too hard on them and i should chill

Anonymous Warm up act October 04, 2016 11:04 PM  

@163
Veal be seeing you.

Blogger Junius Stone October 04, 2016 11:05 PM  

Didn't get to see it here at work. Word is Pence pantsed the putz.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 11:11 PM  

Kaine is an obnoxious little pissant. Pence was definetely the grown up tonite.
The rat crap crazy dyke picked a pissy manlet faggot for her running mate. This is your Dumbocrap party, you commie bitches. Own it,losers.

Blogger David October 04, 2016 11:19 PM  

Kreepy Kaine. Pence won, no real contest. Kaine interrupted everyone. Too much coffee, dude???

Blogger Chiva October 04, 2016 11:20 PM  

pedophile serial killer face.

The Mark of Kaine.

Blogger Junius Stone October 04, 2016 11:24 PM  

The eyebrows are the actual mind in control. The rest is a simulcrabot. The K.A.I.N.E. (Ki-charged Ambulant Identity Navigation Entity) is the mechanism through which the eyebrownian observes and interacts with the world.

Anonymous SciVo October 04, 2016 11:31 PM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:Going to bed. Yawn of a "debate".

Well if they called it a "joint press conference," fewer people would watch.

Anonymous meh October 04, 2016 11:31 PM  

"The eyebrows are the actual mind in control. The rest is a simulcrabot. The K.A.I.N.E. (Ki-charged Ambulant Identity Navigation Entity) is the mechanism through which the eyebrownian observes and interacts with the world."

Under the influence of eyebrownian motion, one assumes.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 04, 2016 11:39 PM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:I do not care for Kaine.

Pence, we have the smallest navy since 1916?


I do not like them in a box.
I do not like them on a Fox
I do not like them in Whitehouse
I do mot like them with a mouse
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere.
I do not like green luges and scam.
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.

A train! A Kaine!
A Kaine! A train!
Could you, would you
on a train?

Blogger GoldRush Apple October 04, 2016 11:39 PM  

I only listened for a few minutes, when the question about immigration, security concerning letting in potential terrorists and Muslims came up, to which my ears heard Pence being more mature (could've done better, though) while Kaine sounded like the typical BUT IT'S DISCRIMINATION THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS ABOUT TRUMP SAID HE'D BAN ALL MUSLIMS.

Anonymous Mook October 04, 2016 11:51 PM  

Whisker biscuit wrote:OT: just read a retort to John C Wright's assertions on astrology. He got destroyed. I guess he thought fancy adjectives and Catholic snobbery is an automatic win.

He's great at sci-fi; science not so much.


Where?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 04, 2016 11:56 PM  

Mook.
You think you can stay on topic ?

Anonymous FP October 05, 2016 12:08 AM  

Am I wrong or did Pence throw in a classic, "there you go again" regarding taxes towards the end of the debate?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 05, 2016 12:21 AM  

He did at least a couple of times, FP.

Anonymous Java cup October 05, 2016 12:31 AM  

Https://i.imgflip.com/1bsevr

Anonymous Jack Amok October 05, 2016 12:37 AM  

Affirmative Action moderators suck.

No doubt. Pence recovered that fumble. He was holding the ball in the air when the dumb chick referee ran in and signaled Kaine had the ball.

Blogger GFR October 05, 2016 12:47 AM  

Pence schooled Kaine. Trump could learn a lot from his running mate..

Blogger GFR October 05, 2016 12:48 AM  

Pence schooled Kaine. Trump could learn a lot from his running mate..

Blogger VFM #7634 October 05, 2016 12:49 AM  

Kaine comes across as a whiny gamma weasel.

Is Cuck Kaine a gamma ?

@44 Han Solo @69 Were-Puppy
Tim Kaine's wife is a dykish-looking 3/10 who kept her surname (Holton). So I'd say definite Gamma, quite apart from his behavior in the debate tonight.

Mike Pence's wife is no looker either, but her pictures suggest that she's a much more pleasant woman than Kaine's wife. Taking age into account, she's a 4/10. Given his wife and overall demeanor, Pence is a Delta.

Kaine doesn't have gay face, Kaine has prissy repressed homosexual manifesting as pedophile serial killer face.

@155 Stilicho
Brutal, and accurate. Funny how male Democrats almost always come off as Gamma and/or pervy.

Kreepy Kaine. Pence won, no real contest. Kaine interrupted everyone. Too much coffee, dude???

@169 David
Kaine was asking for a knuckle sandwich for a large chunk of the debate.

I only listened for a few minutes, when the question about immigration, security concerning letting in potential terrorists and Muslims came up

@175 GoldRush Apple
I was extremely frustrated that nobody made the point that you can't vet Muslims because their children grow up to be terrorists -- which progs promptly relabel as "homegrown terrorists" as if they were old-stock white Americans because Magic Dirt.

OpenID turk187 October 05, 2016 12:56 AM  

Once there were two brothers; one went to sea, one became vice-president. Neither was ever seen again.

Blogger Chris McCullough October 05, 2016 1:12 AM  

Tim Kaine kind of looks like a Dr. Seuss character.

Blogger Robert Divinity October 05, 2016 1:21 AM  

Kaine doesn't have gay face, Kaine has prissy repressed homosexual manifesting as pedophile serial killer face.

John Wayne Gacy.

Anonymous Ellipsis Lacuna October 05, 2016 1:43 AM  

> Implicit bias in justice system

> How dare you accuse a judge of Mexican heritage who donates to La Raza of having implicit bias?

Blogger Alexandros October 05, 2016 1:43 AM  

This war mongering over Russia has me very worried; are Trump and Pence not on the same page?

OpenID sigsawyer October 05, 2016 1:47 AM  

Gamma gets uppity and is brushed off by a Delta who didn't quite have the grit to really smash him down.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 05, 2016 1:53 AM  

Were do come up with this crap that Trump wants to go with Russia ? I've heard this fol-de- rol a lot lately, and I see no proof of the sort.

OpenID phenixrising16 October 05, 2016 1:59 AM  

Watching the debate moderator trying to stop Kaine from talking reminded me of Leonard Fournette vs. Blake Countess last year. Countess still has cleat marks on his chest.

Blogger rho October 05, 2016 2:23 AM  

Didn't watch it.

I Googled "kaine pence," and since most of the top results were variations on "Fact-checking the Kaine/Pence debate" instead of "Here are the highlights of Kaine's destruction of Pence," I've determined that Pence beat Kaine like he was a ho with short money.

For fun I Wikipediaed both of them. My takeaway:

Tim Kaine: Born in Saint Paul, Minnesota, Kaine grew up in Overland Park, Kansas, graduated from the University of Missouri, and earned a law degree from Harvard Law School before entering private practice and becoming a lecturer at the University of Richmond School of Law.

Verdict: Accidental Virginian

Mike Pence: Pence, born in Columbus, Indiana, was one of six children... graduated from Columbus North High School in 1977. He earned a Bachelor of Arts in history from Hanover College in 1981, and a Juris Doctor from the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1986.

Verdict: Actually from Indiana

I imagine that the winner depends on whether you prefer rootless vagabonds for their worldliness or provincial peasants for their earthiness.

OT: Infogalactic.com has a Lua script error on VD's entry.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY October 05, 2016 2:25 AM  

Fournette dindu nuffin. Quit whinin'.

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