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Sunday, October 09, 2016

Wait, they're going to police US?

The lesser SJWs of SF fandom belatedly discover that SF's thought police don't only intend to police the speech, thoughts, and behavior of science fiction's right wing:
The illiberal factions in fandom just want power. They don’t care much whom they go after, as long as they can flex their muscles. The Worldcon 75 committee has offered the latest sample of this, shoving Dave Weingart out as the filk head.

Dave discussed what happened here. In brief: Someone got the notion that Dave should never talk to her. He respected this. One day he inadvertently posted a Babylon 5 video link to a chat group which this other person was also in. For this, he was told he could continue to run filk only if he agreed to end all staff contact outside his division. Of course, it’s impossible to run a part of the program that way, so his only choice was to withdraw.

The concom’s action makes no sense of any kind. It grows out of the notion that “feeling offended” trumps every other consideration and entitles someone to claim any remedy. Well, listen, Helsinki gang. I’m offended. I hope every filker who was planning to go cancels out on you.

I once got a supporting membership. Some early suspicions that people of this kind were running the con led me to back out on it. I never had any real plans to go there, so there’s only one thing I can stop doing. I run a Twitter account called Filk News, which contains various tidbits about what’s happening in the filk world. From here on, I’m giving the Helsinki con no publicity there.

I know Dave personally. He’s a friend and a hard worker with a lot of integrity. Filkers know that. Maybe the Helsinki clique decided filk is beneath their idea of a con. They forget that filkers aren’t just filkers; we include pro writers, regular supporters of conventions, and other people who’ve helped to build and maintain fandom. If the con had just decided to drop filk — well, it can do that. But using bullying tactics to drive us away was a serious mistake.
And the Dark Lord laughed. It's more than a little amusing to see how these hapless idiots obviously didn't see it coming despite the fact that the same pattern has played out ever since the Montagnards turned on the Girondins. So, it should come as no surprise that the freakiest SJW, such as Mr. Alexandra Erin, publicly applaud the thought police, despite their hilarious incompetence.
I think no one would dispute to Mr. Weingart’s contributions to cons actually have been tremendously valuable. But as fannish circles and conventions embrace community standards and commitments to safety and work to be more welcoming to people from every walk of life, we really have to internalize the lesson that nobody is irreplaceable....

Even if he’s 100% right that this is just bad optics, even granting he’s 100% right that the restrictions he’d have to agree to would prevent him from doing his job, we can’t agree to treat women’s (and others’) safety concerns seriously right up until the moment that it’s inconvenient. That’s not how it works.
Translation: Everyone who doesn't submit to the latest version of the Narrative will be replaced. And once they scent blood, the zharks will swarm. And really, if the safety of the delicate flowers is paramount, wouldn't it be best for everyone if they just canceled the convention and everyone stayed home, safely ensconced in their blankets and covered with a thin, comforting coating of stale Doritos dust?

I look forward to the first accusations being directed at the Finns running Worldcon 75 and charging them with being secret Castalia operatives seeking to destroy the Hugo Awards.

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94 Comments:

Anonymous 0007 October 09, 2016 9:46 AM  

Forgive my ignorance, but what the hell is filk, a filker, and filk news?

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 09, 2016 9:46 AM  

The illiberal factions in fandom just want power. They don’t care much whom they go after, as long as they can flex their muscles. The Worldcon 75 committee has offered the latest sample of this, shoving Dave Weingart out as the filk head.

Not just power and more power, not just flexing muscles, they LITERALLY SHOVED Weingart out, causing multiple contusions, several broken ribs, and a fractured spine. He may never walk again. All because of unregistered, illiberal, violent word violence. Word Confiscation Now!

But as fannish circles and conventions embrace community standards and commitments to safety and work to be more welcoming to people from every walk of life, we really have to internalize the lesson that nobody is irreplaceable....

This reads like a set of cliches strung together by an online, post-modern dissertation generator. Internalized.

tl:dr: To be more embracing, more welcoming, and safety first, we must stand ready to line 'em up in front of the firing squad.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 09, 2016 9:47 AM  

But as fannish circles and conventions embrace community standards and commitments to safety and work to be more welcoming to people from every walk of life, we really have to internalize the lesson that nobody is irreplaceable....

Oh, you sad fat insane little man-woman. Lavrentiy Beria, basically said the same thing.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 09, 2016 9:56 AM  

Okay actually what Beria said was, "show me the man and I'll find you the crime." But the sentiment is the same.

Eventually it will be Rainbowbrite Blancmange's turn to ascend the gallows and confess it's crime before the latch is pulled.

At least there was an overall point to the NKVD. It had a comprehensible purpose.

These roving packs of rabid gerbils swarm on anyone who can't keep up with the ever changing "List of What Princess Wants Now." It is so ulitmately self defeating it doesn't even have the understandable goal of power in mind.

Nihlism is now both the goal and the method of the hivemind and the rabid gerbils aren't capable of figuring that out.

OpenID turk187 October 09, 2016 9:57 AM  

#0007

Filking is folk singing with Sci-fi/fantasy themes.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist October 09, 2016 9:59 AM  

Filking is folk singing with Sci-fi/fantasy themes.

Okay. That made me laugh. Such a thing exists? LOL.

OpenID turk187 October 09, 2016 10:00 AM  

I wonder if we could help this process along. Enough anonymous complaints could really throw a wrench into the machine.

Anonymous Eduardo October 09, 2016 10:02 AM  

Seriously just what the heck this guy did!?! Now i want all the sordid details! Did he wore boxers that's why he was a safety hazard? Maybe he told her he voted #Brexit! Or worst case scenario... He is a steampunk fan!

U____U from the outside they look like a sad little group of people playing in a doll house. Every so often the doll house rules becomes so retarded they must rationalize as to why all of a suddem people in the living room must dress as Ken as well; and next week they will take over one of the rooms...

But their real desire is to take over the house as a whole and force their weird Barbie World rules on all residents... Yes the Aqua song comes to mind.

Well at least we have all these rabid puppies in the basement and a story of an evil lord living in the darkest coldest areas of the attic. I know right, "a cold attic!?" That is how cold hearted this man is...

OpenID turk187 October 09, 2016 10:04 AM  

#Undocumented Civilizationalist

been around for quite awhile. Some of it is really funny. Tom Smith is a particular favorite (despite him being a huge asshole SJW)

look up filking on youtube.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 09, 2016 10:10 AM  

"In brief: Someone got the notion that Dave should never talk to her. He respected this."

I looked through the links to what this Dave fellow himself wrote, and found this:

http://filkerdave.livejournal.com/1308865.html

Once you read this, it's obvious: Dave and the woman, who is apparently Swedish, became "friends", but he was a Gamma and sort of turned her off, to put it mildly.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 09, 2016 10:12 AM  

This is exactly why I voted for Finland.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 09, 2016 10:16 AM  

Eduardo wrote:Seriously just what the heck this guy did!?! Now i want all the sordid details!

cf http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/10/sf-sjws-devour-zhemselves.html

As per SJWAL, this line item may have caused the Entriggering-

Post-Archipelacon, I did sent her an apology for however I'd managed to scare or offend her and left it at that.

For an SJW zhark, that's the smell of blood in the water.

Blogger Mighty Lou October 09, 2016 10:20 AM  

It's funny because they keep changing the rules. Pretty much, any white male involved with these lunatics is a sitting duck amd needs to realize that it's only a matter of time before their number is up. Because that's what they do, destroying people's lives is their favorite past time.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 09, 2016 10:24 AM  

Okay. That made me laugh. Such a thing exists? LOL.

Yes, (*sigh*) picture a dumpy middle aged woman with long stringy, graying hair and tie dyed moo-moo singing in a high caterwauling Yoko Ono type of voice and you have the style.

The substance of the songs are "amusing in-jokes of the Truefen". They are about as funny as you think they are.

Hey, does anyone know if our Favorite Finn has plans to attend? It's a complete waste of your time and I guarantee you'll hate it.

So are you going?

Anonymous Eduardo October 09, 2016 10:27 AM  

Oh I read that article, thanks! I just wanna know the details of their relationship! He did something to her... Or maybe didn't do somethig she expected him to do. I mean it is clearly another case Whorus Scandinavius.

Tough tough creature!

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 09, 2016 10:27 AM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:our Favorite Finn

TrueFinn

Blogger praetorian October 09, 2016 10:29 AM  

OT, but if this happens, 2016 is truly the most currentest year of kek conceivable:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/milo-yiannopoulos-eyeing-bid-4chan-936596

Weaponized autism wielded by dangerous faggotry...

Blogger Polynices October 09, 2016 10:39 AM  

Is there some way we could buy a bunch of memberships and hand them out at the nearest Finnish "refugee" center so some of those vibrant young men could attend the con? Or do even rapefugees have standards and would leave the land whales alone?

Anonymous kfg October 09, 2016 10:42 AM  

@14:

If you don't mind, I think I'll stick with the picture in memory of Gordy Dickson and Robert Aspirin singing lustily about the joys of death and dismemberment.

I believe a bottle of whiskey was heavily involved as well.

Hi ho.

Blogger Salt October 09, 2016 10:43 AM  

Only a pissed off gamma would redact names.

Blogger Jose October 09, 2016 10:43 AM  

"Filking is folk singing with Sci-fi/fantasy themes."

What the...?

Let's take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 09, 2016 10:46 AM  

Oh I read that article, thanks! I just wanna know the details of their relationship! He did something to her... Or maybe didn't do somethig she expected him to do. I mean it is clearly another case Whorus Scandinavius.

@15 Eduardo
If you look in the link I put up above on my first post in this thread, you'll find that he most likely didn't do anything physical at all, but he did creep her out.

This should be an Alpha Game post, really.

Anonymous DJF October 09, 2016 10:47 AM  

"""""One day he inadvertently posted a Babylon 5 video link""""

So now Babylon 5 has been banned?

I thought it was a SF classic?

Anonymous Eduardo October 09, 2016 10:58 AM  

I read the link.

It is hard to see how he can creep someone that much to the point she will make him lose his job. Maybe he raped her with his eyes!!! Or snored...

Blogger Unknown October 09, 2016 11:03 AM  

@8
It doesn't really matter why she asked him to not contact her.

What I find interesting is that she considered posting a video into a discussion thread she was in was considered "contact", even though he wasn't specifically talking to her, or anyone else. And then, in true SJW style, she complained that a post not specifically directed at her constituted contact, received proper SJW white knighting because , and here we are at the present situation.

Blogger hank.jim October 09, 2016 11:07 AM  

One thing I learned from experience with women is never take up their offer of friendship and favors. It usually goes south. She is only offering to be friendly, but she doesn't want you to be that friendly with her. So just keep a distance and don't communicate without permission. Oddly, there's no such rule in normal life. This organization puts a damper in it.

Anonymous Sagramore October 09, 2016 11:10 AM  

And here I was worried that calling it Daddy Issues Feminism (to distinguish from ending FGM and physical violence feminism) was too harsh.

Anonymous Eduardo October 09, 2016 11:10 AM  

Yeah but... The gossip isn't good enough!!! Ò_Ø

You see, let's just face it these people are economical and evolutionary and spiritual dead ends. Who wants to be with these people? This guy probably will get a better life if he gets a job some place more... Manly (man doing manly things manly)

Now ... I got to admit a woman did accused me once of stalking her because I got internship at two schools where she worked, unintentionally of course. So mentally defective people are really a problem but these SF people are like... Is like Masochism, or Furries.

Blogger Nick S October 09, 2016 11:11 AM  

Wait, wasn't it Mr. Alexandra Erin that tried trolling us with the Dread Elk appellation? That was mildly entertaining.

Anonymous Dave October 09, 2016 11:15 AM  

Sci-fi politics are so vicious because the stakes are so low!

Blogger praetorian October 09, 2016 11:15 AM  

It is hard to see how he can creep someone that much to the point she will make him lose his job.

He violated the three rules of sexual harassment:

1) Be handsome
2) Be attractive
3) Don't be unattractive

Mix in female sub-conscious anger over the difference between their SMV and MMV, solipsism, drama-whoring, nuclear rejection status signaling, etc. and you get what we've got here.

Which is they way the gammas want it. Well... They get it.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 09, 2016 11:16 AM  

@ Cataline S, These roving packs of rabid gerbils swarm on anyone who

Rabid gerbils? Oh, now you've gone and upset our allies in the gay community. They'll have to get theirs tested now before use.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 09, 2016 11:18 AM  

Folk singing with SF/F themes?

There really are a lot of people who won't survive long once this fantasy of plenty ends.

Blogger Robert What? October 09, 2016 11:27 AM  

covered with a thin, comforting coating of stale Doritos dust

Heh!

Blogger VFM #7634 October 09, 2016 11:28 AM  

What I find interesting is that she considered posting a video into a discussion thread she was in was considered "contact", even though he wasn't specifically talking to her, or anyone else. And then, in true SJW style, she complained that a post not specifically directed at her constituted contact, received proper SJW white knighting because , and here we are at the present situation.

@25 Unknown
If he was in such a situation, he should have pulled a Donald Trump and give a blame-shifting non-apology. But instead, he kept digging the hole deeper by apologizing.

Women hate hate hate men who apologize.

I think this is yet another reason the Church never allowed women to become priests: because priests have to hear confessions. I'm only semi-jesting: Imagine a hypothetical priestess hating her whole congregation because of the sins they told to her in secret.

Blogger praetorian October 09, 2016 11:30 AM  

Relevant video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MVyQNNFobA

Similar to (((our))) strategy of whipping a violence-prone, mean 85 IQ subgroup into a frenzy of white hatred, (((we))) are whipping the less emotionally stable half of our population into a mass of whirling dervishes who see a rape behind every smile.

Puritanical universal altruism, in the end, eats itself.

Shame.

Blogger L' Aristokrato October 09, 2016 11:31 AM  

"The illiberal factions in fandom just want power. They don’t care much whom they go after, as long as they can flex their muscles." ...
Oh, the projection...

Anonymous Sagramore October 09, 2016 11:31 AM  

@5 @6 One of Scalzis friends, a guy named Piglet Ross, introduced me to the term.

Blogger Unknown October 09, 2016 11:39 AM  

People are rushing to judge or speculate on [name redacted]'s mental health. Please don't.

We don't really need to , Dave.

Blogger VoodooJock October 09, 2016 11:49 AM  

Looked it up on the net. The wikipedia entry had a pic of Patrick Nielsen Hayden. Didn't need to see more.

Blogger VoodooJock October 09, 2016 11:50 AM  

Looked it up on the net. The wikipedia entry had a pic of Patrick Nielsen Hayden. Didn't need to see more.

Blogger Jeff Weimer October 09, 2016 11:50 AM  

Pretty sure the "lady" in question is @feejay on Twitter.

Anonymous Steve October 09, 2016 11:52 AM  


Once you read this, it's obvious: Dave and the woman, who is apparently Swedish, became "friends", but he was a Gamma and sort of turned her off, to put it mildly.


Shit, you don't even need to read his account to know that.

Just look at the poor guy.

Cat Stevens-looking gamma dork manages to cluelessly fumble into a drunken clinch with some hideously fugly skiffy thundercunt.

Then things get weird fast, as is inevitable when the neuroatypical do the nasty. Thundercunt's puss dries up under the hairdryer of his autastic nerditude, before rumbling shut in a cloud of cat dander, giving our sperglord hero barely enough time to retrieve his cock and/or fedora before her sloppy chamber of regrets is closed forever.

Thundercunt then has a feeling, decides our hapless herp-derper isn't allowed to be in her presence IRL or social media, and rather than block her (because his DANGER WILL ROBINSON! sense is atrophied by the Aspergers) our sweet summer child naively gives his Nair-dodging legbeard nemesis the flimsy pretext she's been waiting for to shriek KRAPE!* (*kinda rape) and have him expelled from the Mos Eisley cantina-style warren of misshapen freaks and genetic abberations that is WorldCon.

It's the greatest love story of our times.

Anonymous Helton Strom October 09, 2016 12:04 PM  

In other words, in the name of tolerance a number of strict zero-tolerance policies will be arbitrarily enforced against anyone that is insufficiently well-connected to the ruling clique.

In the name of inclusiveness, we will kick out anyone that offends anyone in any way. And the offense may be decided after the fact without telling the offender what they did wrong.

In the name of diversity everyone is required to think and act the same way, and support the same policies and people. further, none are allowed to act in any way that is offensive to anyone, as defined by the most mentally unstable person they interact with.

In the name of fairness, everyone will be placed on a victim-hood status scale based on their ethnic, religious, sexual, and mental background. The scale can be changed on a whim, but straight, white, male, Christians are at the lowest level and cannot claim any offense, nor are they allowed to be offended.

Because of this, all the women who read Fifty Shades of Gray are required to be deeply offended by Trump's words, and must vote Hillary because bi/psychotic/ill/Vagina! trumps SWMC (straight, white, male, Christian).

Yeesh.

Blogger The Other Robot October 09, 2016 12:05 PM  

@31: I think you forgot:

4. If none of the above apply, be filthy rich.

Blogger Mighty Lou October 09, 2016 12:06 PM  

You left out the most important rule of all:

Be rich.

If you follow that one rule all other rules become null and void.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker October 09, 2016 12:16 PM  

First they came for the Filkers, and I said nothing....

Anonymous BGKB October 09, 2016 12:16 PM  

Filking is folk singing with Sci-fi/fantasy themes. Okay. That made me laugh. Such a thing exists? LOL.

It's the sort of thing bow tie wearing faggots that are members of historical societies drag their bfs to.

Anonymous Mike October 09, 2016 12:20 PM  

It's like when Zinoviev and Kamenev first realized Stalin's purge would include them.

Anonymous SaltHarvest October 09, 2016 12:40 PM  

"I think no one would dispute to Mr. Weingart’s contributions to cons actually have been tremendously valuable. But as fannish circles and conventions embrace community standards and commitments to safety and work to be more welcoming to people from every walk of life, we really have to internalize the lesson that nobody is irreplaceable....
"

So if my decryption is accurate, the hidden message is "Replace Worldcon." Acknowledged.

Blogger Daniel October 09, 2016 12:44 PM  

#FirstWorldProblems

Blogger lowercaseb October 09, 2016 12:52 PM  

of course...taking the hard work of others more talented than you, making useless changes and attaching your name to the work and pretending you are a creator. It's harmless...but the levels of pretension they managed to attach to it is cringe-worthy enough...now to list them as a warrior wing in the upcoming Hugo civil war?

This goes beyond embarrassment, and ranges into disgust. Please Mr. Trump...teach this country how to be men again.

Blogger VD October 09, 2016 12:56 PM  

now to list them as a warrior wing in the upcoming Hugo civil war?

They'll be our minstrels and we'll eat them over the winter if the food runs out.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 09, 2016 12:57 PM  

@43 Steve

Epic Tale!

Reminds me of these fine books that all came out around the release of SJWAL

This one should have won Best Cover Art :
https://www.amazon.com/John-Scalzi-Banned-Never-Burning-ebook/dp/B014U9GDMU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1476031978&sr=8-9&keywords=sjws+always+lie

This one apparently by the same SJW from the OP:
https://www.amazon.com/Scalzi-Popular-Author-Myself-Quite-ebook/dp/B014JSBP7A/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1476031978&sr=8-6&keywords=sjws+always+lie

https://www.amazon.com/SJWs-Never-Lie-Censorship-Tolerance-ebook/dp/B014UH990A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1476031978&sr=8-2&keywords=sjws+always+lie

https://www.amazon.com/John-Scalzi-Not-Rapist-Allegations-ebook/dp/B01511HHOO/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1476031978&sr=8-13&keywords=sjws+always+lie

https://www.amazon.com/If-you-were-SJW-Love-ebook/dp/B014VSKCPE/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1476031978&sr=8-8&keywords=sjws+always+lie


Good times!

Blogger lowercaseb October 09, 2016 12:59 PM  

Daniel wrote:#FirstWorldProblems

Yep....the first world is experiencing the ennui that a dad feels when he sees that his 13 year old son is still sucking his thumb when stressed and wants Star Wars figures for his upcoming 14th birthday.

Men of the West! Quit pretending to be Rohirrim ponies whose friendship is magic and put on your damned armour!

Blogger Were-Puppy October 09, 2016 1:05 PM  

@52 lowercaseb
of course...taking the hard work of others more talented than you, making useless changes and attaching your name to the work and pretending you are a creator.
--

That's the SJW way. They do it to all things:
TV
Comics
Movies

Filk, on the other hand, i think is just for drunk SJWs to do on their own time at conventions.

Blogger lowercaseb October 09, 2016 1:05 PM  

VD wrote:now to list them as a warrior wing in the upcoming Hugo civil war?

They'll be our minstrels and we'll eat them over the winter if the food runs out.


Ah well...at least there will be ample portions for everyone and the meat will be well-marbled.

Blogger Karl October 09, 2016 1:10 PM  

Re: apologies

Nate Parker won't apologize

The Birth of a Nation actor/director Nate Parker has refused to apologize in the aftermath of a college rape case in which he was acquitted being brought back to light.

In an interview with CBS’s Anderson Cooper on 60 Minutes Sunday, Parker, 36, said he had nothing to apologize for and maintained his innocence. “I do think it’s tragic, so much of what happened and [what] the family had to endure with respect to this woman not being here,” he said. “I don't want to harp on this and be disrespectful of them, but at some point I have to say it: I was falsely accused. I went to court and I sat in trial.”

Parker continued: “I was vindicated. I was proven innocent, and I feel terrible that this woman isn’t here. Her family had to deal with that, but as I sit here, an apology is—no."

Blogger Cynic In Chief October 09, 2016 1:20 PM  

I've made a Rightops.co thread for it. This should be fun.
https://rightops.co/topic/11/worldcon-fun

Blogger Pseudotsuga October 09, 2016 1:34 PM  

Filking/Filkers do show some strength of talent (through law of averages, I suppose), but so much of it is indeed, as one person pointed out above, true-fen "in-jokes" that I never had much interest in it.
And as a point of note-- one can "filk" songs similar to how writers can "Fisk" an essay or article. It's often a never-ending feedback of See-how-clever-I-am for one's in-group friends.
Yes, the correct response would not have been an apology, but it's almost Pavlovian. I am learning much about what to do if (or when) this happens to me in the workplace.

Blogger kaflick October 09, 2016 2:04 PM  

Jose wrote:"Filking is folk singing with Sci-fi/fantasy themes."

What the...?

Let's take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


I believe that is the chorus of a filk song.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 09, 2016 2:19 PM  

See, this is the problem with our economy. We tax the shit out of actual productive, reasonably sane people, and subsidize emotionally dysfunctional freaks. So people who could have fun with something like filking are too busy working, while people who freak out over a blog post have all the time in the world to indulge their neuroses.

A couple of years of honest work might to wonders for the mental health of these loons.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii October 09, 2016 2:24 PM  

The best examples if Filking I know of are the parodies by weird AL. The term may have been coined in ... Ahem ... Fandom but the idea is general and has been around forever.

Blogger The Other Robot October 09, 2016 2:25 PM  

Whoa, what is this?

Sad Puppies Bite Back: A Parody by Declan Finn

Anonymous Mr. Rational October 09, 2016 2:45 PM  

0007 wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but what the hell is filk, a filker, and filk news?
Back in the day, people said "filk songs is folk songs for folks what ain't been born yet."  Like "bheer", it was born from a typo and stuck.  Classic filk songs include "Never set the cat on fire", whose final verse begins "Don't start an interstellar war, it has no proper uses".

I have no idea what it means nowadays.  Tom Smith is still all right, but Luke Ski's rapping makes me want to shove nails in my ears.

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:Such a thing exists? LOL.
Here's an example.  There's a version which inserts a bridge set to the tune of "Oh what a beautiful morning" which goes:

The cattle are standing like statues
The cattle are standing like statues
They smell of roast beef every time I ride by
And the hawks and the falcons are dropping like flies!

(This refers to the microwave beams proposed to transmit power from satellite power stations in geosync down to earth.)

Sadly, there seems to be no performance of this on YouTube.

dc.sunsets wrote:There really are a lot of people who won't survive long once this fantasy of plenty ends.
The people who can write songs about keeping the air in the cabin can write songs about diesel fuel injector replacements.  Don't underestimate the value of creativity and mnemonic devices.

Were-Puppy wrote:Filk, on the other hand, i think is just for drunk SJWs to do on their own time at conventions.
Bored Fermilab scientists.  Fill them full of Tullamore Dew and you'll have stories for a lifetime.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 09, 2016 3:22 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:@25 Unknown

If he was in such a situation, he should have pulled a Donald Trump and give a blame-shifting non-apology. But instead, he kept digging the hole deeper by apologizing.

Women hate hate hate men who apologize.


This case is surreal. He's apologizing, for what he knows not! http://filkerdave.livejournal.com/1308865.html

Hej [name redacted],

An apology. I'm sorry.

I was a surprised (gobmacked, really) to get a warning via [not their name] that I should go easy on you at Archipelacon. It was unnecessary. Given I haven't spoken with you since before I left London and moved back to New York late last year (FB messenger says late October, so that's 8 months)...

I don't know how I've scared you so much and made you think I'd do something to you at Archipelacon. I suspect I'll never know (although I'd like it if you wanted to tell me), and I'd like to make it right if I can.

Whatever it was I've done or said that scared you so much, though, I'm sorry. I already know (because you made it extremely obvious, even to me) that my presence in the pub and at the con made you uncomfortable. I'm sorry. I tried to minimize your pain as much as I could. I didn't seek you out. I didn't say hello. I didn't do my usual "I'll walk up to random groups of people I might know and start talking to them" if you were there or even close by. I managed to avoid you in Monk's, which was difficult considering how close the space was. (I'm not blaming you for that. These are actions I took of my own free will because you were angry or hurting or both.)...

Again, I'm sorry that I've done something, whatever it was.


Gaaaaahhhh.

Speaking of which, and as a service from the Public Safety Commission,

Steve wrote:Once you read this, it's obvious: Dave and the woman, who is apparently Swedish, became "friends", but he was a Gamma and sort of turned her off, to put it mildly.

Shit, you don't even need to read his account to know that.

Just look at the poor guy.


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Blogger Jordan179 October 09, 2016 3:24 PM  

I wonder if we could help this process along. Enough anonymous complaints could really throw a wrench into the machine.

That strikes me as an extremely good idea.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus October 09, 2016 3:36 PM  

lowercaseb wrote:VD wrote:now to list them as a warrior wing in the upcoming Hugo civil war?

They'll be our minstrels and we'll eat them over the winter if the food runs out.


Ah well...at least there will be ample portions for everyone and the meat will be well-marbled.


Oh my. That's pretty... Dark.

Blogger rws October 09, 2016 3:37 PM  

@43

I love Stevil.

(no homo)

Blogger ChickenChicken Sweep October 09, 2016 4:01 PM  

nobody is irreplaceable

I believe they will find soon enough that this is not true when nobody with any actual organizational skills wants to waste their energy organizing a combination Maoist criticism session/junior high moan fest.

That’s not how it works.

Re: my previous statement, these fools have no clue how anything actually "works". Everything they say or do is merely recycling someone else's thoughts and actions. In this case, as pointed out above, Lavrentiy Beria's.


Anonymous Jason October 09, 2016 4:46 PM  

For the love of God, do *not* google image search for Alexandra Erin Worldcon. I need two-fifths of scotch to erase what I just saw.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 09, 2016 4:51 PM  

I look forward to the first accusations being directed at the Finns running Worldcon 75 and charging them with being secret Castalia operatives seeking to destroy the Hugo Awards."

U_U Eenteresteen.

Dark Lord does not slip. Foreshadowing?

Blogger VFM #7634 October 09, 2016 5:08 PM  

@43 Steve
I'm quite skeptical that they even fornicated -- especially if the woman wasn't fugly. BTW, that bit of prose looks a lot like Heartiste's writing.

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@66 Spartacus
It's a good bet he's actually Omega, not Gamma. Gammas usually come across as more socially savvy and self-assured (as PA puts it, Alpha ambition without the Alpha goods), as well as more kiss-assy toward women. Omegas are not as obnoxiously pedestalizing, but they do tend to be much more bewildered at other people's hostile reactions and not understand WTF is going on to them.

In addition to the fact that Gammas do like to bully Omegas, especially since it's one of the few occasions when women will gleefully join in with them.

This Omega apologizing for creeping out the woman was quite simply dead meat. If you're Omega, you have more of a reason to not apologize than most other men.

Anonymous Wyrd October 09, 2016 5:13 PM  

And the Dark Lord laughed.

Lucifer laughs. Heaven waits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtSBnv-mPtA

Blogger GracieLou October 09, 2016 5:27 PM  

Skiffy Thundercunt. I would steal that but am still in trouble for saying, "Pu$$yGate" in front of the husband. Thanks for nothing ilk.

"..we can’t agree to treat women’s (and others’) safety concerns seriously right up until the moment that it’s inconvenient. That’s not how it works." Unless it's women (and children) who want to try on clothes and pee, at Target, then we can mock those safety concerns with malice aforethought and extreme prejudice.

Lie: Every word, not excluding "and" and "the".

Blogger Madame Ringading October 09, 2016 5:37 PM  

There are worthwhile things in filk, as in any other music genre. Looking for pro-2A music, survivalist themes and Kipling? Leslie Fish, though her gravelly whiskey tenor voice isn't for everyone and you might not care for the anarchist/"wobbly" side of her either. Juanita Coulson and Moonwolf did a lot to keep old historical ballads alive, and you'll see a lot of H. Beam Piper influence in Frank Hayes' outre. Mind you, these are the old guard, A bit less impressed with the up-and-comers, though...

Anonymous Wyrd October 09, 2016 5:44 PM  

Skiffy Thundercunt.

Tee-hee!

Anonymous RedJack October 09, 2016 5:55 PM  

What ever he did, this female wants to destroy him. Which is a great lesson for others in what you should do.

Never stick it in crazy.

Anonymous BGKB October 09, 2016 6:21 PM  

Daniel #FirstWorldProblems

Sadly we have imported the 3rd world so we get "IT'S FREE SWIPE YO EBT vs. LAST CASE OF WATER" problems http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hurricane-matthew-panic-sparks-supermarket-8997620

If you don't solve First World Problems, there won't be a First World. It is sheer insanity to try and solve the 3rd worlds problems by letting them invade us, their sheer numbers will simply kill the goose that lays the golden egg very quickly.

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Blogger Harold October 09, 2016 6:59 PM  

#1 0007 If you were fen, you would know what filking is. Green Hills of Earth by Heinlein has been performed as filk. I'm certain you could find youtube performances.

I wrote one once. Short, sung to Felix the Cat, and knowing the tune to Felix the Cat dates you.

Scrödinger's Cat
The quantum mechanical cat.
Alive or dead,
Or neither yet,
Until you open the box.
Do you believe in Schrödinger's Cat?

That's about the limit of my musical inclination and imagination.

Blogger James Dixon October 09, 2016 7:26 PM  

> Okay. That made me laugh. Such a thing exists? LOL.

Oh, yes. It's one of the more popular past times amongst long time fans.

For one example see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8R8MA81Eg

I'm sure Dickson's work is considered beyond the pale by the SF SJW's though. Much too masculine for their taste.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare October 09, 2016 8:19 PM  

Reading that File770 thread is an education in monstrous, sociopathic narcissism. What disgustingly wretched people they are... That said, all involved are disgusting wretches, so I suppose I ought to simply restrain my impulse to react angrily to such shamelessly deliberate displays of breathtaking intellectual dishonesty...and just enjoy the schadenfreude. *concentrates* okay, I'm better now. Still disgusted, but now it's diluted by enjoyment. ...I'll shut up now... God bless! :-)

Blogger Bob Loblaw October 09, 2016 8:22 PM  

But as fannish circles and conventions embrace community standards and commitments to safety and work to be more welcoming to people from every walk of life...

There are a whole bunch of words that just don't mean anything any more: safety, violence, rape, racism, gender... Of all the damage these idiots have done to our culture, the corruption of the English language is what bothers me the most.

Blogger lowercaseb October 09, 2016 9:12 PM  

Jason wrote:For the love of God, do *not* google image search for Alexandra Erin Worldcon. I need two-fifths of scotch to erase what I just saw.

Those are the chins that launched a thousand ships....

Anonymous Spinrad's Agent October 09, 2016 9:40 PM  

Because these people have a million potential "upsets", there is no possible way to avoid their anger. If "upsets" dictate morality, then nobody is safe from power plays based on things that happened to people when they were three years old (and which they replay for the rest of their lives).

Anonymous Jack Amok October 09, 2016 10:32 PM  

Skiffy Thundercunt. I would steal that but am still in trouble for saying, "Pu$$yGate" in front of the husband. Thanks for nothing ilk.

Would "thundersnatch" be any more acceptable?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 09, 2016 10:59 PM  

Spinrad's Agent wrote:Because these people have a million potential "upsets", there is no possible way to avoid their anger.
It's worse. They will create new ones whenever they want to make a power play.

Blogger Thucydides October 10, 2016 9:18 AM  

Hey people, why are we wasting time on this retarded thread?

Drop a grenade on WorldCon by sending them anonymous tips Castalia House is secretly sponsoring all the Con activities and lets talk about Dragoncon instead.

Much more productive use of time, and the fans at Dragoncon aren't going to make you want to tear out your eyes either.

Anonymous LastRedoubt October 10, 2016 11:37 AM  

As to Filk - some of it is gawdawful, some of it is funny, or quite good.

One I do enjoy, that i learned of courtesy of Pournelle (and I learned of filk in general courtesy of Pournelle's "Fallen Angels") is Fire in teh Sky:

https://youtu.be/bqL7Yllgeew

Anonymous Mr. Rational October 10, 2016 4:10 PM  

Note that the author, Jordin Kare, is not some nobody.  He's a big name in space travel.

Blogger GracieLou October 10, 2016 7:18 PM  

He says "ThunderSnatch" or "ThunderTang" would be acceptable.

Anonymous Noah Baudie October 12, 2016 5:48 AM  

@53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enSYlCEz5VI ?

Blogger Vanished friend October 18, 2016 6:27 AM  

This is one of the funniest comments I've seen on the internets this year. Thank you.

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