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Sunday, October 16, 2016

Who are the Nazis?

It's always remarkable how the Left never realizes it is projecting:
Gov. Pat McCrory Sunday called the weekend firebombing of a North Carolina Republican headquarters “an attack on our democracy,” while one GOP official called it an act of “political terrorism.”

In a tweet, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump blamed “Animals representing Hillary Clinton and Dems in North Carolina.”

Hillsborough police said somebody threw a bottle of flammable liquid through the window of Orange County’s GOP headquarters, setting supplies and furniture ablaze. A swastika and the words “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else” were spray painted on the side of an adjacent building.
The Left is making it increasingly clear there is not room for both them and the Right in theUSA. One of these days, they're going to attack the wrong person, or the wrong people, and then they'll discover that their fears didn't do the real thing justice.

The reason the Right behaves well is for the same reason that a well-armed society is a polite one. It understands the costs of civil conflict. But that doesn't mean the costs are never worth paying when the other side keeps upping the ante.

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Blogger Aeoli Pera October 16, 2016 7:33 PM  

Another reason is that crime and instability are implicitly bad for whites in the area.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 16, 2016 7:33 PM  

The incident took place in Orange County, home of the University of North Carolina in nearby Chapel Hill.

Who wants to place a bet on where the culprits are sleeping tonight?

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum October 16, 2016 7:35 PM  

A civil war is on the horizon...

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 16, 2016 7:37 PM  

At some point I expect some leftards to attack an occupied building. Guess what, arson against an occupied building is considered attempted murder, and fully justifies self defense all the way up to lethal force.

Then we'll see if the Leftards want to call, raise or fold.

Anonymous Wyrd October 16, 2016 7:37 PM  

But, but, but Trump is literally Hitler!

Blogger Matt October 16, 2016 7:41 PM  

" It understands the costs of civil conflict."

One of the many reasons many modern young women "JDGAF"." Insulated from reality.

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 16, 2016 7:42 PM  

The funny thing about fires is, if you are idiot, they tend to burn things you don't want them to. Usually this includes yourself.

Anonymous SugarPi October 16, 2016 7:48 PM  

Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

Anonymous Just another commenter October 16, 2016 7:51 PM  

And the left calling it a false flag, a "Reichstags Fire" setup, in four, three, two....

OpenID basementhomebrewer October 16, 2016 7:52 PM  

SugarPi wrote:Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

Are these the same publications that claim 90% of gun owners want universal background checks?

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 16, 2016 7:59 PM  

SugarPi wrote:Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

What that tells me is that 3% of the US population has a gun collection.

Blogger Johnny October 16, 2016 7:59 PM  

SugarPi wrote:Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

Sounds suspect to me but could be true. It would amount to a small number of collectors that have a really lot of guns. A local gun shop guy has a couple of hundred.

Otherwise be not concerned. They have only a vague idea how many guns there are in the use, and a large portion of the US is armed. Deer hunters, if they were an army, would make up one of the largest armies in the world.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 16, 2016 8:02 PM  

Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

That's not the best way to fight a civil war these days. I have to be careful of what I say here because of the Blogger's incitement rules.

From a purely academic perspective it is instructive to study how the Jihadi's did it in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Blogger Phil Mann October 16, 2016 8:03 PM  

A commentator here once said something to the effect that white, Christian men of European descent don't riot very often...but when they do, they do it better than anyone on the planet.

You can be pushed too far.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 16, 2016 8:06 PM  

Due to both childish threats in the slogan and the stupidity of the attack itself, I am one hundred percent certain that this was done by male Women's and Gender Studies Majors at UNC.

The Twitter feeds alone will probably tell the cops who they need to pick up.

Anonymous Just Ice October 16, 2016 8:08 PM  

The right behaves? The Bundys say hi from prison.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 16, 2016 8:09 PM  

The short bus got here early today.

Blogger bob k. mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 16, 2016 8:12 PM  

2. Cataline Sergius October 16, 2016 7:33 PM
Who wants to place a bet on where the culprits are sleeping tonight?



Duke?



8. SugarPi October 16, 2016 7:48 PM
50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me.



why?

contrary to video game portrayals, dual wielding is pretty damn useless for all but the most highly trained.

better to have a single weapon, be proficient *and have ammo* for that single weapon.

every additional caliber you work with multiplies the ammo stocks you need to carry in order to support it.



VD
It's always remarkable how the Left never realizes it is projecting:



as with Limbaugh's assertion that the Left doesn't "understand" humor, i consider this significantly flawed analysis. and for the same reason.

the Left understands humor just fine, non-Leftists just don't typically grasp that the Left uses humor ( and practically everything else ) as a social dominance play. this is why they lose their shit when anybody starts making fun of them, you're threatening their position in the hierarchy.

the same is true of the 'projection' assertion. the Left knows perfectly well that they're projecting. they have to, because they HAVE TO KNOW WHAT LIES THEY NEED TO TELL ABOUT IT IN ORDER TO CONCEAL IT.

and the Left is ever so deft at lying about everything they do ...

Blogger U PC BRO? October 16, 2016 8:13 PM  

OT - Some very cryptic tweets from Wikileaks posted in the last few hours. Some speculating they are some sort of "dead man's switch." Any techies here have any idea what they might be?

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 2h2 hours ago

pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809

Anonymous Just Ice October 16, 2016 8:14 PM  

Maybe Ashley Todd moved to NC?

Blogger Chris Mallory October 16, 2016 8:15 PM  

SugarPi wrote:Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

That gives 9,000,000 people ownership of 150,000,000 guns. The other 150,000,000 guns are divided up among 300,000,000 people, or one for every two people. We are pretty well prepared.

Blogger Jack Ward October 16, 2016 8:19 PM  

#18
There be Truth here. That said, my personal taste runs to main battle a 5.56 set up best I can; plenty ammo; 2 point sling for off hand braced fire; bipod for those moments.
7.62 bolt with decent scope for those other moments.
Battle pistol, auto, .45 1911. 357 magnum for some other moments. .22 for squirrels, etc.
Of course, to have it all is a goal to work to. But, time does seem scant right now.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr October 16, 2016 8:21 PM  

I would pay no attention whatsoever to estimates of who owns how many guns. People lie about such matters.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) October 16, 2016 8:22 PM  

That gives 9,000,000 people ownership of 150,000,000 guns. The other 150,000,000 guns are divided up among 300,000,000 people, or one for every two people. We are pretty well prepared.

Your analysis ignores the millions of guns lost in tragic canoe accidents each year

Anonymous A.B. Prosper October 16, 2016 8:22 PM  

SugarPi wrote:Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

That is probably false as its based on polling an people always lie to pollsters about gun issues. Have since the 80's at least

Its mainly a rather lame attempt to recreate the self defense/Elmer Fudd divide , you can keep your shotgun if you like your shotgun that kind of thing. No one is buying that. Sames these days are mostly pistols and AR variants with assorted others especially shotguns

Even if it true, its not important. For defense while its nice to have several weapons its unnecessary. Simply having a pistol and a rifle you know how to use is plenty

So you may have lots of owners with say a handgun for each household member and a Mosin or shotgun or AR or whatever

They would fall under that 50% owning few guns but aren't Fudds and are probably better prepped than they guy with the huge collection if they have practiced.

beware the man with one gun and all that.


Blogger Solaire Of Astora October 16, 2016 8:24 PM  

Leftists project because they have no empathy. Therefore, any of the darkness they accuse others must inevitably come from within.

Blogger The Reactionary October 16, 2016 8:24 PM  

I'm not sure leftists are even human.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr October 16, 2016 8:25 PM  

I'll add that during the Great Unpleasantness Between The States, the infantry found a musket and bayonet quite enough to lug around.

Blogger Johnny October 16, 2016 8:26 PM  

VD
It's always remarkable how the Left never realizes it is projecting:

I go with VD. We tend to understand other people by what is true about ourselves, and that is even if we repress self knowledge. Projection of all kinds is ordinary.

On the other side of it, in politics accusing somebody else of the accusers flaws is good strategy. The thing is people don't worry this stuff a lot, and with both sides pointing fingers there is a failure to distinguish truth from fiction.

Anonymous SugarPi October 16, 2016 8:29 PM  

@10 - 13
Thanks... you've confirmed some of my thoughts.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling October 16, 2016 8:33 PM  

@18. bob k. mando:

better to have a single weapon, be proficient *and have ammo* for that single weapon.

But that works for only a subset of use cases. I think you need a minimum of three, of course satisfying all your stipulations, plus having run enough self-defense rounds through each to be sure of their reliability: a rifle of military utility (could be a 1898 Mauser or any later good clip fed bolt action battle rifle), a handgun for concealed carry if you're in a free state, and if not at least for home defense and emergencies, and a copy of that handgun or close enough in case you have to use the first and it gets seized by the police.

Weasel words because I carry a 1911 with an aluminum frame and a 4 inch barrel and correspondingly smaller slide, shaving off quite a bit of weight, and my backup and primary home defense weapon is a full length steel 1911, which I can carry less comfortably in a pinch, and which I can shoot a lot more without worrying so much about frame wear. Both feel and shoot pretty much the same in my hands, they're close enough to be substitutable without extra thought or having to make any compensations to speak of.

Anonymous SugarPi October 16, 2016 8:35 PM  

And bob and Chris, too :-)

Blogger Unknown October 16, 2016 8:36 PM  

I have more than one, but less than a dozen, and that is as specific as I get on the internet. Or with a telephone pollster, for that matter.

As for the left, and violence, they don't realize that the only thing restraining the deplorables from stacking the left in cord lots is the belief that these dame deplorables have something to loose should they unleash the hounds. We are rapidly approaching the time where there will be nothing left to loose.

The left has no clue that there are some very serious, highly skilled people in among the Deplorables, and these same highly skilled people will collect heads by the dozens should things get sporty.

Blogger Credo in unum Deum October 16, 2016 8:38 PM  

@12 It took me awhile to come up with the name I wanted to use when commenting so I wish you would stop using the same name I am using. I don't want to change my name but I hope the hell you will.

Why don't you start posting as VOX and see how that works out.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr October 16, 2016 8:43 PM  

You can debate how many arms, and what sorts, ought to be owned. Practice, frequent practice, is essential.

Blogger Kona Commuter October 16, 2016 8:45 PM  

I hope my (virtual) friends in the US look after themselves. It sounds like things are getting rather unpleasant over there

Blogger dc.sunsets October 16, 2016 8:47 PM  

Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

The pollster left out the IQ mean of their sample, specifically that of people who actually answer such polls.

Everything you're told about guns and gun ownership in the "press" is a lie. That's been known since long before Professor Bellesiles got caught publishing "history" based on files that burned years earlier.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 16, 2016 8:52 PM  

I have a childish vision of some clown being observed by an armed and talented man or woman while said clown tries to light a Molotov cocktail.

Clown lights fuse, cocks arm to throw and talented marksman (or woman) nails the bottle of flammable liquid, turning clown into a dancing candle.

Or just use a shotgun, less marksmanship necessary.

I know, it's silly. But fun.

Anonymous Deplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair October 16, 2016 8:55 PM  

"The Left is making it increasingly clear there is not room for both them and the Right in theUSA. One of these days, they're going to attack the wrong person, or the wrong people, and then they'll discover that their fears didn't do the real thing justice.

The reason the Right behaves well is for the same reason that a well-armed society is a polite one. It understands the costs of civil conflict. But that doesn't mean the costs are never worth paying when the other side keeps upping the ante."

When I was in Spain, a professor told me how a member of ETA killed the wrong guy's dad. Said dad and son were fascists. After his dad was murdered, the son retaliated Sopranos style and offed the ETA member and all his family that was eating dinner in a restaurant.

I was reading the article to my gf and said political terrorism accurately describes it. You'd expect to see things like that in Ecuador, Nicaragua, Ukraine (anyone remember the grenade tossed at a candidate about 10 years ago?), not here...oh wait, we're a 2nd world country.

Blogger Alfred Genesson October 16, 2016 8:56 PM  

So, they just hand NC to Trump? Good play.

Anonymous SugarPi October 16, 2016 8:57 PM  

I don't know nuttin' 'bout shootin' no guns...
but gun dealers do background checks, so sales figures are available to you-know-who. I assume that's where the numbers originate, not surveys. Does anyone really answer those questions their doctor is required to ask?

Blogger dc.sunsets October 16, 2016 9:02 PM  

Since fighting the 2nd American Revolution seems unlikely to me, all one needs is one relatively modern pistol or revolver and a few magazines full of ammo (or similar for the wheelgun.) Most informal skirmishes do not involve long firefights and cases of ammo. Those who acquire a "collection" often obtain relatively limited incremental capabilities (unless a full Zombie Apocalypse presents.) Of course, there are many valid reasons for collecting them.

Of course it also stands to reason that you should practice; shooting pistols is far more challenging that they show in the movies.

Tip of the day: consider buying some ammo from underwood.com. They load some nifty stuff, might shake the fillings out of your teeth.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper October 16, 2016 9:05 PM  

Just Ice wrote:The right behaves? The Bundys say hi from prison.

They never harmed anyone nor arsoned property. They are mostly guilty of administrative and tax crimes oh and trespassing.

There have been a very few "Right" idiots acting out (c.f Kansas) however they've not been attacked DNC buildings or no platforming people with false fire alarms or anything of the sort . Its quite rare and the Right basically repudiates such conduct fast.

if that changes, you'll know and to warn the Left keeps this crap up and they risk this becoming common.

Kurt Schlichter below

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2015/04/05/liberals-may-regret-their-new-rules-n1980933

In any case this kind of thing isn't new , it happened to W as well.

Leftists use chaos and violence first than typically project the desire for such conduct in the Right . Its false of course as in general the Right is peaceful and wants peace and order until they can't get it and they'll make it happen

Oh yeah and in case anyone brings up Neo Cons they are economic liberals but are hardly Conservative in that sense , their operations and motives are far more Leftist than Right Wing



Blogger dc.sunsets October 16, 2016 9:05 PM  

Oops. Make that underwoodammo.com

My bad.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 16, 2016 9:08 PM  

I posted this to FB yesterday:

I am, however, getting to the point of saying, "Enough is enough. If Hillary is elected, it's time for secession and civil war. No, forget about secession without civil war; they go together like horse and carriage. Yes, I'm the guy who's been arguing against both for years, but I've lost. Fire up the evil black rifles and get ready for some zombie hunting."

Blogger Chris Mallory October 16, 2016 9:10 PM  

Josh (the gayest thing here) wrote:That gives 9,000,000 people ownership of 150,000,000 guns. The other 150,000,000 guns are divided up among 300,000,000 people, or one for every two people. We are pretty well prepared.



We are dealing strictly with official numbers. Anyone stupid enough to try that "canoe accident" crap will probably die from drowning in the rain the first time they go outside.

Blogger cheddarman October 16, 2016 9:16 PM  

How important are firearms for a revolution?

I would think that hacking skills and the ability to build attack and surveillance drones would be much more deadly.

I bet that when the Europeans finally drive out the American occupation forces, it will have a lot more to do with attacks by drone and hacking than by firearms.

Blogger Chris Mallory October 16, 2016 9:17 PM  

Slightly off topic, but Obama is calling for "Curating the truth" on the internet.

“We are going to have to rebuild within this wild-wild-west-of-information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to,” Obama said at an innovation conference in Pittsburgh."

“The answer is obviously not censorship, but it’s creating places where people can say ‘this is reliable’ and I’m still able to argue safely about facts and what we should do about it.”
http://www.unz.com/isteve/obama-calls-for-tech-industry-to-provide-truthiness-curation/

Blogger Mighty Lou October 16, 2016 9:19 PM  

Just kids pulling a prank, nothing to see here folks, so move along.

Blogger cheddarman October 16, 2016 9:23 PM  

@45 Tom Kratman

Next thing you know, Colonel Kratman will inform us that he has accepted a commission in the Army of the Confederate States of America. Yet more proof that there is a God, and He loves those who honor Him.

Anonymous Wilbur Hassenfus October 16, 2016 9:24 PM  

Oh, but it's so much easier to spend money and play Walter Mitty -- or just talk about guns on the Internet -- than get to the range regularly and put the work in.


Blogger pdwalker October 16, 2016 9:27 PM  

@48 yes, great idea.

In fact, the guys at Infogalactic.com are working on this very thing.

Blogger Matthew McDaniel October 16, 2016 9:36 PM  

You think suicide bombers are only of the Muslim variety? Keep pressing the Right's back up against the wall & see the eventual result. The American Left are really retarded.

Blogger Sheila4g October 16, 2016 9:37 PM  

Vox - OT, but thought you'd find this interesting. Although Gates of Vienna is massively philo-semitic, they occasionally feature interesting things I don't find elsewhere. Here's a letter from a German woman, married mother of two, leaving Munich because of what she (struggling to be a "good" German) labels a failure of integration. What it is is an alien invasion. Voting with her feet

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 16, 2016 9:38 PM  

While it is true that many in the Nazi leadership were cowardly, corrupt and anti-tradition, it seems a bit harsh to compare them with the likes of BLM and other Soros funded thugs.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 16, 2016 9:47 PM  

Just Ice wrote:The right behaves? The Bundys say hi from prison.

We have seen with Rodan Clinton that Justice has keen eyesight, and sees kinds, which has destroyed Her moral power. So you can expect now for some men who were self-constrained to begin to misbehave. And some people are smarter than others.

Blogger newanubis October 16, 2016 9:52 PM  

I'd like to raise..Everything reported by MSM is a lie, not just pertaining to guns.

Anonymous h2938599 October 16, 2016 9:53 PM  

It's all good everyone because the Dems are raising money to rebuild the office.
https://www.gofundme.com/reopen-a-nc-republican-office-2ukuprzy

Anonymous KPP October 16, 2016 10:08 PM  

@18 "better to have a single weapon, be proficient *and have ammo* for that single weapon."

Or, best to have extra weapons to arm your friends, family, and neighbors when crunch time comes. That's what I have done. I have several inexpensive, simple-to-use carbines that I've put away for a rainy day with that exact purpose in mind.

Anonymous LastRedoubt October 16, 2016 10:19 PM  

@SugarPi

Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population. That bothers me. A few are ready for the civil war. The rest, not so much.

Eric Raymond had some discussion on this a few weeks back as he figured that smelled "off" - and was asking how would we tell from sales figures?

Blogger Mountain Man October 16, 2016 10:27 PM  

The left has plenty of emotional outrage but no strength and fortitude to back it up. If their temper tantrums culminate in war with the traditionalists, they will find themselves on the losing side..very, very quickly. It will be an ass beating the likes of which they could never imagined possible.

Blogger Tom Kratman October 16, 2016 10:28 PM  

Okay, I'm fairly clearly in that 3%. I have a long arm and a pistol for every member of the extended family, down to SF son in law and grandkids, plus a few specialty items. Thus, my guns are not arming just me and the fact that I own them is irrelevant. I am arming a squad, rather well, atually, and most of the people with 20 or more guns can do the same.

Blogger Lazarus October 16, 2016 10:30 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:Here's a letter from a German woman, married mother of two, leaving Munich because of what she (struggling to be a "good" German) labels a failure of integration.

As Vox said some time recently, Whites tend to flee rather than fight. Nice confirmation.

Blogger Mountain Man October 16, 2016 10:31 PM  

"Deer hunters, if they were an army, would make up one of the largest armies in the world."

..Many with proficiency and skills in the forests/woods that very few urban dwellers have.

Blogger Thucydides October 16, 2016 10:33 PM  

Guns are just the final option, and indeed in Revolution 2.0 they will be used for a much different purpose than most posters have considered.

The "Progressives" are highly concentrated in Blue cities, and have spent decades rising their own Brownshirt armies within these cities; unionized thugs, "Occupy", BLM, the various snowflake groups on campus dedicated to eliminating free speech etc. What happens when the bubble of debt fuelled prosperity pops and there are no longer crumbs to throw from the table? What happens when poorly maintained infrastructure collapses? What happens when food no longer is transported into the cities, or there is no more electricity or clean water? The very "elites" of the Political, Academic and Bureaucratic classes will be trapped in the cities with their Brownshirts , and you know who will come out second best in that contest.

Looking at the Brownshirts themselves, who among them has the skills, knowledge and understanding to keep civilization going? Who is going to man the factory floors or turn the power and water back on?

So you see, friends, the guns are for the end game, when the objective is to simply prevent the hordes from exiting the Blue cities and preventing them from looting the countryside. The accumulated skills and capital left beyond the cities is what is needed to be preserved to rebuild These United States; protect and preserve that, and victory is yours.

Anonymous SugarPi October 16, 2016 10:34 PM  

@60 When I first read the report I thought it had to be the official sales in which a background check had been done. Those records don't just go away, so repeat buyers are revealed. Of course, I don't discount the possibility of, ahem, misrepresentation of the numbers.

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Blogger Mountain Man October 16, 2016 10:40 PM  

@18
If it could be one I recommend a 12 gauge Remington 870.
Its lethal for both home protection and hunting. Capable of bringing down everything from a moose or bear to a squirrel. Just the sound of it being pumped will clear the room of any two legged piece of shit.. faster than lighting.
Also, unlike other brands, its any easy brand/gauge to get parts for due to the sheer number made/sold.

Blogger Lazarus October 16, 2016 10:42 PM  

Thucydides wrote:So you see, friends, the guns are for the end game, when the objective is to simply prevent the hordes from exiting the Blue cities and preventing them from looting the countryside. T

And how is that accomplished. The difference between WWI and WWII was the improved highway structure that allowed for Blitzkrieg.

Here is a tip. The germans sent paratroopers behind the lines to secure the bridges.

Recently, a small bridge on the northern tip of the I5 was out of action for awhile and stymied traffic for a few days.

Blow the bridges and the brown hordes have to go on foot or small roads. How many are going to do that? People could have escape New Orleans on foot if they were not so fat they could walk more than 3 blocks, but they could not do that.

Bridges, bitchez.

Blogger tz October 16, 2016 10:47 PM  

2008, ok Ron Paul's first try, the machine picked McCain.
2012, Ron Paul regrouped, and had to fight the media and establishment, and even Romney and the RNC trashed him in the end and changed the rules. So rejected and out of touch he couldn't beat a wounded Obama.
2016, OK, we'll do it the hard way. Trump. The GOP is shattered, so he has already done much good, but if Hillary steals the election, lets just say Imagine a bunch of BlackLivesMatter Mensa members.
It wouldn't be that hard, just bring down the grid to the coasts for a few weeks. The logistics and fragility of the larger cities are worse than trying to invade Russia. They'd still have light and warmth - until the fires went out.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 16, 2016 10:54 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Bridges, bitchez.

Not all bridges should be blown. I live near one that is on the opposite side of the highway and would make no difference, in fact would just cut us off from some woke country folk.

Just sayin', you aren't wrong -- City Of Bridges and all that -- but we need to apply our intelligence.

Blogger Lazarus October 16, 2016 10:58 PM  

Speaking of bridges, I think Ceasar's campaign against the Germanic people relied on bridge building skillz.

Bridges, bitchez.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 16, 2016 10:59 PM  

Round 2, if it's initiated by TPTB, isn't going to be city dwellers against country folk. It's going to be federales against domestic terrorists.

Blogger tz October 16, 2016 10:59 PM  

@65 Roads which bring in supplies and the golden horde would have to use to exit are just another line of communications which can be easily severed. I know of many (including myself) who already anticipate an exodus and the Red Sea won't part, or will collapse on the exodees this time.
Unprepped people trying to get to the hinterlands having not thought about anything will be no match for those already there who have noted every infrastructure vulnerability along the routes.
As Crimea found out in a story little reported here.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 16, 2016 11:00 PM  

And guns aren't going to be the important weapon. It'll be propaganda, drones, and IEDs.

Blogger Lazarus October 16, 2016 11:01 PM  

SciVo de Plorable wrote:Just sayin', you aren't wrong -- City Of Bridges and all that -- but we need to apply our intelligence.

Understood. Just sayin'. Of course all tactics should be applied according to strategic goals..

One does not have to blow a bridge necessarily, just block it up with the wreckage of disabled vehicular traffic.

Blogger tz October 16, 2016 11:03 PM  

One advantage of the defense crony corruption and the cucking of the military is that the personnel (I'd say men, but with women in combat and trannies...) and the weapons will be less of a threat, though an F35 might decide to inconveniently bring back barn-storming.
Putin might make Alaska a better offer.

Blogger Lazarus October 16, 2016 11:09 PM  

Look up the OKA crisis in Canada.

Before the raid, there were some 30 armed warriors in and around the barricade, following the gun battle, this number grew to 60-70, and would swell later to 600.[1]

The Mohawks capitalized on the chaos by seizing six vehicles, including four police cars, and commandeered the front-end loader to crush the vehicles and use them to form a barricade across the main highway.[14]
Members of the Seton Lake Indian Band blockade the BC Rail line in support of Oka, while a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer looks on. Later in the day, several of the elders protesting were arrested and a confrontation with the band community ensued as Mounties marched the squad cars holding those arrested through the reserve en route to Lillooet.

The situation escalated as the local Mohawks were joined by natives from across the country and the United States, together refusing to dismantle their barricade.[citation needed] The Sûreté du Québec established their own blockades on highway 344 to restrict access to Oka and Kanesatake. Another group of Mohawks at the nearby location of Kahnawake, in solidarity with Kanesatake, blockaded the Mercier Bridge at the point where it passed through their territory, thereby sealing off a major access point between the Island of Montreal and Montreal's heavily populated South Shore suburbs.


Like, who does not have access to a front-end loader when they need it?

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 16, 2016 11:11 PM  

tz wrote:2016, OK, we'll do it the hard way. Trump. The GOP is shattered, so he has already done much good, but if Hillary steals the election, lets just say Imagine a bunch of BlackLivesMatter Mensa members.

Ha. Mensa is nothing. Imagine if BLM were white and so smart that average people were clinically retarded by comparison.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot October 16, 2016 11:14 PM  

See if this rhetoric fits the purpose:

"No friends on the Left."

There are clearly in my case very few friends to the left of me -- I don't find the Left in general to be trustworthy and reliable enough to make the cut.

Those friends who are to the left of me are simply not what I would consider on the Left -- they simply tend to act in ways that may appear to be "more reasonable" toward the Left than my general preference.

It's not a sad thing to realise, however. Worse things could happen in this world than cutting loose the "frenemies" on the Left.

Anonymous Laz October 16, 2016 11:15 PM  

@71. SciVo de Plorable: "Not all bridges should be blown. I live near one that is on the opposite side of the highway and would make no difference, in fact would just cut us off from some woke country folk.

Just sayin', you aren't wrong -- City Of Bridges and all that -- but we need to apply our intelligence."

No way anybody would think of driving on the opposite side of the hughway... just sayin'.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis October 16, 2016 11:15 PM  

The first thing they will do is cyber attack Russia. Russia will then respond likewise. At which point they shut down the internet and blame Russia, then bring it up under strict controls e.g. they control and monitor the sites they want back up.

The second thing they do is confiscate all the ammunition from retailers, and make it illegal to sell to civilians.

The third thing they do is require photo ID and registration for computer purchase, and photo ID for use of a library computer. They then hold the registered user of that computer responsible for any and all internet access on a per URL basis.

The fourth thing they do is bail out the blue state city and state pension funds by doubling, tripling, quadrupling property taxes. When you can't pay, they auction your house in a tax auction, evict you, and move in section 8 and illegals.

Somewhere in there they legalize all illegals (by executive order), and then open the borders. They give "free" benefits to all such persons. Including free health care to all "people of color". (That most certainly does not include you!)

At that point they have a lock on power. Good luck to the homeless white people living in the woods with their deer rifles.
***
Just kidding. They actually don't have the collective IQ to do the above. If they try it will be implemented like a combination of implementing Obamacare, managed like the VA, with the effectiveness of the TSA.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot Deplorable Intellectual Elitist Scumbag October 16, 2016 11:17 PM  

SciVo de Plorable @79:

Go ahead, wear a T-shirt that says "SD -3.0 LIVES MATTER" to a Mensa meeting.

:-)

Anonymous FlyingHigh2016 October 16, 2016 11:24 PM  

Every western country has an angry, militant, hard left contingent buried within its "mainstream" center left parties. This contingent was easy to see in Britain, France & Germany in the 70s & 80s, but was relatively obscure in the US, Canada & Aus in the same era. After decades of university indoctrination in sociology depts, that contingent is now blooming up, determined to fight any uncucked center-right opposition. Their overriding goal is to restrict freedom of speech, and criminalize opposition to open borders. They tend to be easy to spot nowadays: facial mutilation with exotic piercings, slovenly &/or goth style, women avoid make up, men & women left side of bell curve for looks. They usually have a puppet master who harbors deep resentment towards whites, western culture & Christianity. As per right now, it is inevitable that these clashes will happen. As long as the political right was timorous, cucked/neutered, the hard left could sit back and enjoy easy incremental victories. Now they feel an existential threat to their power, they will fight like a cornered rodent.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 16, 2016 11:26 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:And guns aren't going to be the important weapon. It'll be propaganda, drones, and IEDs.

Welp. At least I'm good at one of the three.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 16, 2016 11:32 PM  

Post Alley Crackpot wrote:See if this rhetoric fits the purpose:

"No friends on the Left."


No. Absolutely not. I have very good friends on the left, who in fact might provide me with guns if it comes down to that. We need to not confuse our axes of action, since this is an unusual case.

Blogger G-S. October 16, 2016 11:33 PM  

It's wise not to make any assumptions about this act of violence. The perp needs to be caught and interrogated.

Blogger Lazarus October 16, 2016 11:54 PM  

FlyingHigh2016 wrote:Now they feel an existential threat to their power, they will fight like a cornered rodent.

I can hardly wait for Triggly-Puff to come screeching at me brandishing a HoHo and a Big Gulp Soda.

I gotta plan for that. It won't be pretty.

Anonymous JAG October 17, 2016 12:24 AM  

SciVo de Plorable wrote:Post Alley Crackpot wrote:See if this rhetoric fits the purpose:

"No friends on the Left."


No. Absolutely not. I have very good friends on the left, who in fact might provide me with guns if it comes down to that. We need to not confuse our axes of action, since this is an unusual case.


You are just fooling yourself. If they are leftists they are not your friends. They will be the first to turn you in if it comes to that.

You see, in today's world you need to be flat out evil to be a willing member of the left in the USA. There just isn't any doubt left about that any longer.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 17, 2016 12:34 AM  

Maybe we need an equivalent of the three percenters for internet infrastructure.

Anonymous Anonymous October 17, 2016 12:49 AM  

Or we could just learn to get along?

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 17, 2016 1:15 AM  

Well, JAG, I disagree. Let me explain.

The left-right axis is vacuous. My left hand has no more political meaning than my right hand. So, that axis is whatever is the primary axis of dispute in a particular polity.

I'm not going to go into detail of historical examples.

But for the last several decades, we've had a kayfabe of pretending that it makes some kind of sense to have an election between crony capitalism and crony socialism, because our "elites" agree on loving cronyism, and would rather lose to another cronyist than fight a non-cronyist.

So I have friends who are anti-cronyist, and also pro-nationalist, and also (by our retarded map) technically-leftist. And I trust them. We have the craziest arguments -- I say the same kinds of things IRL as I do here -- and we still like each other after.

Anonymous RabidRatel October 17, 2016 2:07 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:Maybe we need an equivalent of the three percenters for internet infrastructure.

Wi-fi repeaters with directional antennae will make a nice makeshift network. It has already been done, so all the relevant details are on the net. hack cellphones so that they don't need towers, but behave like first envisioned - true cellular communications (The bluetooth part retains this functionality, the cellphone towers are necessary for the communications companies to enable billing, otherwise they just relay between distant locations.)

Get friendly with ham radio guys in your area, they can run internet via their radios, but they are also your best bet for communications when SHTF.

Remember, there is more than one way of killing the cat.

Anonymous BGKB October 17, 2016 2:32 AM  

Stats reported by Fortune, USA Today, etc are that 50% of guns are owned by 3% of the US population.

Lost all of mine in the boating accident this summer.

better to have a single weapon, be proficient *and have ammo* for that single weapon.

You better have some replacement parts for the NigApocalypse. Should have at least a handgun, an AR/AK rifle & a bolt action for each adult.

Of course, there are many valid reasons for collecting them.

A case of mosins and a couple of spam cans for people showing up after the party starts?

How important are firearms for a revolution? I know a STR8 woman prepper nurse that purposely grows hemlock.

Next thing you know, Colonel Kratman will inform us that he has accepted a commission in the Army of the Confederate States of America

Maybe he will take over from the gay secretary of the ARmy.

One does not have to blow a bridge necessarily, just block it up with the wreckage of disabled vehicular traffic.

A single accident can back up traffic for hours in a die verse city even with everything working, all it would take is a box of tacks or caltrops at the right locations.

Maybe we need an equivalent of the three percenters for internet infrastructure.

I had seen plans for a gorilla internet backup node plan but can't find it with searches.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope October 17, 2016 3:11 AM  

tempting as taking action like this may be, (against either political party), only a fool would do it the 3 weeks before the election.

So, it is either a false flag from an idiot NeverTrumper, or BLM type idiocy.

Anonymous Phil Christensen October 17, 2016 5:16 AM  

The irony of fascists projecting their fascism.

http://manningthewall.com
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUDY17Xg_Ix5kaenkryh63g
https://twitter.com/manningthewall

Anonymous That Would Be Telling October 17, 2016 6:23 AM  

@41 SugarPi:

I don't know nuttin' 'bout shootin' no guns...

Indeed:

but gun dealers do background checks, so sales figures are available to you-know-who. I assume that's where the numbers originate, not surveys.

Keeping a permanent list of those people is against the law. So while I don't assume they're following the law, I do assume they wouldn't openly give such data to researchers.

That data is also imperfect, in many states presenting a concealed carry permit eliminates the need for an "instant" background check with the Feds, and people sell guns informally, for example, after they figure out one isn't right for them, so such data would be missing that. And many people bought guns before the NICS was created in the 1990s, as of now, half of mine never touched it, and at least one was bought before there was any Federally mandated record-keeping.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling October 17, 2016 6:33 AM  

@68 Mountain Man:

If it could be one I recommend a 12 gauge Remington 870.
Its lethal for both home protection and hunting. Capable of bringing down everything from a moose or bear to a squirrel.


An 870 was my first shotgun, for bird hunting with my father, and I have one now and love it. But all shotguns have two serious limitations that make it my last choice for "serious social work" outside of a riot:

The effective range is 100 yards, which isn't much for most any centerfire rifle.

The length of any long gun makes it an iffy choice for CQB, like inside the home. Hard to maneuver, and most any adversary can rip it out of your hands by grabbing it outside your grip, which gives them greater leverage to apply. It's also a bit overpowered for home defense use, but as a pump there's no doubt rounds that'll work for that use.

Ah, that brings up another issue: while they're less mechanically reliable, for a novice, a semi-auto shotgun would be the way to go. It takes more than a little practice to develop the muscle memory to always pump it, and not short stroke it as well.

Also, if you get an 870, be sure to get a Flexitab.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling October 17, 2016 6:39 AM  

@69 Lazarus:

The difference between WWI and WWII was the improved highway structure that allowed for Blitzkrieg.

By and large tracked vehicles only care about wear and tear if denied highways (bridges are another matter).

The two things that made a qualitative difference due to mere refinement, quantitative improvements, were vast increases in quality in internal combustion engines and the size, reliability and ease of use of radios.

Take the iconic Stuka of early Blitzkrieg fame: without a powerful engine that was smooth enough to attach to a metal frame, allowing it to carry bombs of worthwhile size, and a radio that allowed for real time direction of where it should drop those bombs, it simply wouldn't have made sense.

Blogger Jeff Wood October 17, 2016 8:24 AM  

Firing pins sometimes break. A spare for each firearm is essential.

For comms gear, spare batteries, perhaps rechargeable, for when the power sometimes returns.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 17, 2016 10:26 AM  

Internet backup is a good idea but think about how useless it is to meme the Chinese if they'll never see it. Free movement of information across borders would appear, at this moment, to favor peaceful nationalism, whereas Balkanized nets would appear to favor atomization and therefore globalist anarchotyranny.

Blogger Aeoli Pera October 17, 2016 10:29 AM  

So here I'm speaking in terms of culture war, 4GW-style. Using drones against Americans would be counterproductive if the internet is up, but extremely useful if the internet is on a whitelist.

Blogger JohnG October 17, 2016 10:46 AM  

@77 Not quite there yet. The DoD has yet to devise a physical fitness test that both men and women can make which isn't a total joke. As it stands now, women can get away with only doing 19 pushups to pass at a minimum standard, while men have to do 42 (in a particular age group). Also they haven't got rules set for trannies. Can't have a guy saying "I'm a chick for the PT test"... There's some reserve units handing out blue cords to females now, but I think that's been outside of regulatory guidance (and obviously hasn't been tested in combat yet).

Blogger JohnG October 17, 2016 11:02 AM  

Confrontation would be pretty damn messy at the start. The Bundy standoff that ended when a bunch Oathkeepers and militia groups showed up was a rare success story. Subsequently, it turns out that other confrontations with the Feds will end in executions. A couple truck fulls of Bubba vs. a SWAT team (ex mil, usually SOF) will end badly - as the Iraqis and Afghans learned. But ambush and bombs are pretty damn effective. Also, LE and Mil can't hide their families 7,000 miles away. The Left probably will push things, they just don't realize that fire is hot.

Blogger Cloudbuster October 17, 2016 2:04 PM  

They gave the attempted Trump assassin a slap on the wrist. The law will not be protecting us.

Blogger bob k. mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 17, 2016 6:04 PM  

59. KPP October 16, 2016 10:08 PM
Or, best to have extra weapons to arm your friends, family, and neighbors when crunch time comes. That's what I have done.



well, isn't that special?

i'd like to know where i put an upper limit on anybody? and if i didn't ( and i didn't ) then why are all these people jumping in to advocate for more.

IF you are means constrained in ANY way ( money, space, family situation, etc )
THEN the triage for the situation is a single weapon.

if you've got the money and space to own 5000 firearms ... why aren't you opening a gun store?

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