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Friday, October 14, 2016

Wikipedia: where information goes to die

We've created a new Infogalactic blog where the Galaxians can post and discuss various aspects of building the Planetary Knowledge Core. Already, the distinct differences between Infogalactic and Wikipedia are readily apparent, and Infogalactic is still in Phase One: Vanilla Fork.
An interesting discussion on Wikipedia about Infogalactic. Notice that the Wikipedians have not only buried the contributions of the contributors about whom they affect to be so concerned, but they have ensured that no one can retrieve it.

Now, why would Wikipedians want to completely bury a page about Cultural Marxism?
== Attribution for deleted content ==

[http://infogalactic.com/info/Main_Page Infogalactic] is a new Wikipedia fork set up by Breitbart as [http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/10/10/anti-thought-police-infogalactic-launches-as-wikipedia-alternative/ "an alternative to biased Wikipedia"]. I have been asked to supply a copy of the page deleted at [[WP:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Cultural Marxism (2nd nomination)|this MfD]]. Since Infogalactic's standards for notability and for COI are intended to be more relaxed than ours, it is likely to want to keep many articles that we delete, and we can expect more requests for copies.

My concern is, how should attribution be handled? Under CC-BY-SA we promise contributors that their contributions will be attributed, and any copies carry the same obligation. It does not seem right to accept contributions to a page, delete it, and then provide copies without attribution. Forked articles in Infogalactica are correctly linked to the original here, but where our page has been deleted there is nothing to link to.
You have to read the whole thing there to believe it. This is classic Wikipedia rules-mongering, where the spirit of the law is defeated by the legalistic gyrations of the expert Wikipedian. Better to permanently bury someone's contribution than risk - risk - the possibility that it might not be correctly attributed as per the CC-BY-SA and the phase of the Moon.

The fact that this particular contribution happens to be anathema to the radical SJWs of Wikipedia is mere happenstance, of course.

Consider: Cultural Marxism is deemed unworthy of a page on Wikipedia, deleted, and buried. But the page about gay performance artist Chris Crocker, best known for his 2007 "Leave Britney alone" performance on YouTube, has hundreds of edits and 53.9k of data devoted to it.

This is why the world needs Infogalactic. To support it, you can either help us cover the monthly burn rate or help us reach Phase Two: Neapolitan Spoon. And needless to say, I'm confident our Galaxians will put together a superlative page on Cultural Marxism that is considerably more accurate than the deleted-and-buried version ever was.

UPDATE: Thank you, new subscribers!


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93 Comments:

Anonymous DDT October 14, 2016 11:11 AM  

Will there be a page dedicated to information on Wikipedia's editing habits?

Blogger Alexander October 14, 2016 11:17 AM  

Infogalactic is going to be at least 10 feet Yuger than I previously thought.

Signed up for recurring donation. Fighting!

Anonymous Vile Faceless Deplorable Minion October 14, 2016 11:25 AM  

Also signed up for recurring donation. I highly encourage everyone to donate money and/or donate time and/or donate content. We have to start wresting control of information from the hands of the left and those who would use 1984 as a field guide. We have the better minds and deeper knowledge. It's time to catalogue it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 11:26 AM  

Breitbart?

Blogger VD October 14, 2016 11:30 AM  

Breitbart?

No one ever said Wikipedia was particularly notable for its accuracy.

Blogger Paul October 14, 2016 11:31 AM  

Speaking of Alt-Tech, is anyone thinking of providing alternatives to comment filters like Disqus?

The people I know who've used it recognize immediately what it is, a method of intercepting and pre-harvesting potential site users while assuring the sites which employ it that they're being protected from spam. Except that they're not being protected from spam, they're being protected from people using VPNs, rhetoric more complex than "See Jane run", and, worst of all, non-liberal opinions.

Google "Disqus detected as spam" just to get an idea.

Create a site filter that culls the real spam while giving the site owner all the comment hits he hopes he's getting and I think sites would beat a path to your door.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 12:02 PM  

VD wrote:Breitbart?

No one ever said Wikipedia was particularly notable for its accuracy.


True dat. Still, did they just pull a random devil name from the Aether? Did Milo tweet on it, and that's all they are capable of retaining?

It just seems so... random.

Blogger SouthRon October 14, 2016 12:10 PM  

there's no reason for us to be spending time assisting on a project which will almost certainly no longer exist in a few months when the half-a-dozen people responsible for every edit lose interest and drift away.

They don't know us very well, do they.

OpenID aew51183 October 14, 2016 12:18 PM  

Thankfully we have archive.is

http://archive.is/YzkIS

Anonymous Man of the Atom October 14, 2016 12:20 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:VD wrote:Breitbart?

No one ever said Wikipedia was particularly notable for its accuracy.


True dat. Still, did they just pull a random devil name from the Aether? Did Milo tweet on it, and that's all they are capable of retaining?

It just seems so... random.


Breitbart article announcing Infogalactic was their reference -- look closely in the first few lines for the URL. Since Breitbart reported it, then they must be the ones building it.

'Cause, LOGIC.

OpenID aew51183 October 14, 2016 12:21 PM  

btw.. disqus is SJW-converged at the organization level, but their product still doesn't auto-filter wrongthink. That's configured 100% at the publisher level.

I'm in communities where I can use racial slurs and post porn like 4chan.

Blogger slarrow October 14, 2016 12:22 PM  

Will there be a page dedicated to information on Wikipedia's editing habits?

Heh. I asked a similar question last night on Gab (about whether there would be a page listing hoaxing journalists like there is for backstabbing GOP members), and our Dark Lord replied, "Create a page...." To my embarrassment, that hadn't even occurred to me because I didn't think it would be that easy to get involved and help out.

That's one of the reasons I expect Infogalactic to succeed: in my experience, Vox makes it easy for people to help him out. I imagine we all know people who moan and groan about how no one ever helps them but then, when offered help, throw up all kinds of barriers. It's kind of like they want the attention and the drama but don't want to get the problem solved or something. It's refreshing to help out with folks with the opposite disposition.

(And speaking of, just donated to Infogalactic. Easy peasy.)

Anonymous Mr. H October 14, 2016 12:23 PM  

This initiative taking off is an excellent thing, for the cancer in La Wik has spread to the point of it being unsalvageable. I imagine it will eventually suffer from search result censoring from notoriously converged Google (and they are certainly not above it), but am I correct in also imagining there are plans in place to deal with this threat?

Blogger Merlinus October 14, 2016 12:40 PM  

I would imagine that Google couldn't do much to censor Infogalactic articles without seriously compromising their search tool.

Unless they were to abuse DMCA takedown notices...

Anonymous Ironsides October 14, 2016 12:40 PM  

"Set up by Breitbart."

I find it hilarious that the Left, which used to tout itself as the nimble revolutionary running circles around the hidebound dinosaur thinking of the other side, is now reduced to lumbering about and harrumphing uncomprehendingly at everything new.

Blogger Cecil Henry October 14, 2016 12:42 PM  

Wikipedia: where truth goes to die.


FIFY!!!

Blogger vanderleun October 14, 2016 12:45 PM  

I agree with all that Inforgalactica is well overdue.... however, I mention, yet again, that GAB is screwing up its best period for gaining users. I've supposedly been in the queue for membership for over threee months. Nothing. And I can't register again because the system already has my email. What gives with this sort of thing? Are there fewer resources available to GAB than are claimed? Folks need to sort this out while emotions run high. You are missing the sweet spot.

Blogger VD October 14, 2016 12:54 PM  

I agree with all that Inforgalactica is well overdue.... however, I mention, yet again, that GAB is screwing up its best period for gaining users. I've supposedly been in the queue for membership for over threee months. Nothing. And I can't register again because the system already has my email. What gives with this sort of thing? Are there fewer resources available to GAB than are claimed? Folks need to sort this out while emotions run high. You are missing the sweet spot.

What the fuck does that have to do with us? And why do you think Gab is "missing the sweet spot" just because you're not on it?

They're letting people in as fast as their resources permit. And do you really think Twitter's behavior is going to be dialed back anytime soon?

Anonymous #5454 October 14, 2016 12:59 PM  

Yeah, GAB is going slow on purpose. /sarc

Blogger residentMoron October 14, 2016 1:04 PM  

The Breitbart link gives them an excuse to cast an Ignore spell on their readers. It's a simple sign that means "Stay Away!"

One that dvry SJW will understand and likely obey.

Blogger RobertT October 14, 2016 1:07 PM  

"Infogalactic’s anti-bias architecture will permit users to select their preferred perspective and automatically see the version of the subject page that is closest to it based on a series of algorithms utilizing three variables ..."

Civil War? Vietnam War? Brexit? 911? Immigration? Why not just present everything to everyone?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 1:13 PM  

@Cara at Gab yesterday said they had invited everyone left in the queue.
Unfortunately, due to the lack of a user search function, I can't find it.
Hit up @gabsupport on twatter, if you have a blue bird account.

Blogger YIH October 14, 2016 1:25 PM  

But the page about gay performance artist Chris Crocker
I went ''who?'', startpage comes up with the Whackopedia link as #1 then pasted the name into IG, at a casual glance, the two pages appear identical.
BTW, YouTube ''star''/ghey pr0n actor. No wonder I had no idea who he was.
Something I did notice on IG, it's slow, takes about 15 seconds of 'the spinner' before the search resolves.
WP the page pops right up, maybe a second of delay.
An issue?

Blogger vanderleun October 14, 2016 1:31 PM  

"@Cara at Gab yesterday said they had invited everyone left in the queue."

Well, they seem to have missed me and that leads me to think there's a glitch somewhere. Nothing from Gab in my mail or in my spam folder. I'll try @gabsupport but the sheer lack of a link to that or to any sort of support email on the gab home page... just a little blank with a login or join box... is also a mistake. I can only suppose that they are very much understaffed and funded. Something I understand completely.

Blogger vanderleun October 14, 2016 1:36 PM  

PS: The twatter account is @getongab NOT @gabsupport

Blogger YIH October 14, 2016 1:38 PM  

Merlinus wrote:I would imagine that Google couldn't do much to censor Infogalactic articles without seriously compromising their search tool.

Unless they were to abuse DMCA takedown notices...

It's been known to happen.
Microsoft's had a reputation of flagging Linux distros, ghey pr0n (I kid you not), Gmail and even themselves for DCMAs.

Blogger Phil Mann October 14, 2016 1:39 PM  

Wish I knew enough about the underlying technology and protocols to fully understand what these silly wikipedians are talking and worried about. However, as I don't (and don't really care to learn), I hope that my cash donation will serve as a worthy contribution to the effort. Well done, Vox and co., let's hope this works.

Blogger Thomas Davidsmeier October 14, 2016 1:57 PM  

Gab is really nice. Too bad you're not on it. *neener neener*

Actually, I missed the first email they sent me to let me in. If I remember right, it was spammed by Gmail (no surprise). It is a start up and it is trying to do things better than the birdies did, so it will take a bit.

Blogger DrAndroSF October 14, 2016 2:09 PM  

If you search "cultural Marxism" on Wiki, you get directed to The Frankfurt School, and "cultural Marxism" is listed under "conspiracy theory."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 2:10 PM  

Found the post

https://gab.ai/Caro/posts/805978
"Everyone that signed up for the waitlist has been sent an invite at least twice. Please have your friends and fam check their spam/social folders.

If they can't find it, have them hit me up on #Twatter @CaroOnGab! If they don't have #Twatter let me know. "

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 2:12 PM  

Please note that Caro is one person who handles this, and she was evidently out sick last week. It's a very small operation and that sort of thing happens.

BTW they are looking for an Android developer.

Blogger YIH October 14, 2016 2:12 PM  

I got a chuckle out of this passage (both pages):
Crocker believes that the Leave Britney Alone! video and his performing in porn have hurt his chances of pursuing an acting career. "A lot of people think the Britney video is what got me famous and what gave me all these opportunities, but if I were to have gone to L.A. as an unknown actor—I probably could have gotten a lot more work." He said, "I don't regret it necessarily; I think it just gives me more hurdles to overcome... Which, you know... and obviously doing the porn thing didn't necessarily help me."[82]
I've only heard of one person going from pr0n to not pr0n: https://infogalactic.com/info/Tracy_Lords
Accounts of her story vary, age (14-16 starting age), who doctored the Birth Certificate (self/mother/stepfather/mom's boyfriend) but she had quite the career in mags, videos and stripping... Until shortly after she turned 18, then she quit. As you could guess, made quite a stir back then:
United States v. X-Citement Video, Inc., 513 U.S. 64 (1994) was a federal criminal prosecution filed in the United States District Court for the Central District of California in Los Angeles against X-Citement Video and its owner Rubin Gottesman. The charge was trafficking in child pornography, specifically videos featuring the underaged Traci Lords. Gottesman had been sentenced to one year in jail and a $100,000 fine.
(((Dig the name))), surprised? Me neither. But after that she did go on to a (somewhat) modest acting career.
And that's the only one.
Protip: doing pr0n is like getting a tat, you can't really get rid of it, and it'll haunt you for the rest of your life.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 2:19 PM  

I saw somebody's blog post the other day going over Twatter's financials. They are bringing in $2.2B in revenue and unable to turn a profit.

If I were an investor, I'd be suing. Where the hell did all the money go?

Anonymous John October 14, 2016 2:26 PM  

How are you going to win over the normies who trust wikipedia?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 2:26 PM  

YIH wrote:I've only heard of one person going from pr0n to not pr0n
Rebecca DeMornay

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 2:28 PM  

OMG, this is too funny.
Wiki forgot to renew their certificates.
Brave is refusing to load Wikipaedio.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope October 14, 2016 2:55 PM  

Haven't heard from Gab either, on any of the 3 email accounts. Spam folders checked daily, of course.

Blogger GFR October 14, 2016 3:13 PM  

@37
.
Gab came through for me in about a week. Of course I still don't understand how it works - anymore than I understood twitter..

Anonymous ChucklesDPirate October 14, 2016 3:19 PM  

Does Infogalactic send an email on submission of an account request or only when an account is approved? I haven't heard anything and am wondering if there was an error with my request or if I should just be patient.

Blogger YIH October 14, 2016 3:23 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:I saw somebody's blog post the other day going over Twatter's financials. They are bringing in $2.2B in revenue and unable to turn a profit.

If I were an investor, I'd be suing. Where the hell did all the money go?

I remember about a year ago seeing articles saying: twitter expects to make a profit in the first quarter of 2016.
Guess not. Maybe someday, right? Uh, right?
They should be smooching Trump's butt, but even him and the NFL haven't helped.

Anonymous ChucklesDPirate October 14, 2016 3:23 PM  

Apologies, apparently my phone doesn't load my spam folder and the emails had been sent there.

Blogger Thucydides October 14, 2016 3:32 PM  

Shining the light of truth on Wikipedia will be akin to the US Navy shining a 100kW combat laser on an Iranian motorboat.

Unleash the light!

Blogger Student in Blue October 14, 2016 3:33 PM  

Those people in the quote are blaming Breitbart, of all things, for Infogalactic.

What is with their brains that they can't help but see BREITBART behind everything? I recall something from a while ago where lefties were blaming Breitbart for either GamerGate or Donald Trump. Which is, again, hilariously wrong.

Blogger YIH October 14, 2016 3:35 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:YIH wrote:I've only heard of one person going from pr0n to not pr0n

Rebecca DeMornay

Doesn't count, No mention of anything X-rated there or there, for that matter.
But Vanessa Williams does. Ironically, both she and Tracy were in what will be remembered as Penthouse's most famous and best-selling issue.

Blogger Ingot9455 October 14, 2016 3:36 PM  

@33 My company has a cage in one of the same co-located facilities Twitter uses, and they have a hell of a big footprint of servers. For a service so damn simple, they are not running tight, light, and mean.

It might be that one old Apple ][ is running their 140 character messaging service and the rest of it is all poorly-designed advertising twaddle that so overloads your browser that you never actually get to look at it.

Then the SJW banhammer and shadowbanning service they run is all overage that slows them down even more.

Me, I stopped looking at twitter when AngryOrc1 stopped posting.

Blogger Steven M. Wells October 14, 2016 3:49 PM  

Phase 1: Vanilla Spoon
Phase 2: Neapolitan Fork

I hope Phase 3 is chocolate knife. You know, for diversity.

Blogger B.J. October 14, 2016 3:54 PM  

I would have gone with "Library of Alexandria" but maybe that's too long to be catchy.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 14, 2016 3:59 PM  

Steven M. Wells @45: "I hope Phase 3 is chocolate knife. You know, for diversity."

Given the ambitious implementation for Phase 3, I suspect Rocky Road might be more appropriate.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 14, 2016 4:26 PM  

@1
Make one!

Blogger Dirk Manly October 14, 2016 4:28 PM  

@WaterBoy
More like Moose Tracks.

Blogger Feather Blade October 14, 2016 4:42 PM  

@49 What, no Tutti Fruity?

Blogger Bard October 14, 2016 4:58 PM  

Vox,
Can you share a ballpark figure how much these things cost? What does Gab need to go full steam? How much does Infogalactic need? You are asking for donations. Do both need investors? I am asking in sincerity.

Blogger Student in Blue October 14, 2016 5:20 PM  

Ask Andrew Torba if you want to know about Gab. Vox has nothing to do with it, other than he uses it and likes it.

Blogger Bard October 14, 2016 5:28 PM  

Ok

Anonymous BGKB October 14, 2016 5:37 PM  

Breitbart? No one ever said Wikipedia was particularly notable for its accuracy.

Breitbart is actually a swear words for leftists.

I would imagine that Google couldn't do much to censor Infogalactic articles without seriously compromising their search tool.

You never went into google images and typed "white couple" "white man with white woman" or "European people art"

And why do you think Gab is "missing the sweet spot" just because you're not on it?

I stay up late at night crying because I can't access (this name I have never seen before)'s thoughts.

Blogger Cloudswrest October 14, 2016 6:04 PM  

#9 That's quite a detailed and well written page. Someone went to a lot of effort to create it. From their point of view I can see why they wiped it. The Archive version is in HTML rather than Wikicode, so it will still represent some work to recreate it.

Blogger fickbowt October 14, 2016 6:40 PM  

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Blogger fickbowt October 14, 2016 6:43 PM  

The Cultural Marxists were just cultural theorists and in fact warned against the dangers of a fake/manufactured Culture Industry driven only by the commodification and falsification of genuine culture (hence their concept "The Culture Industry").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_industry

With the British Cultural Marxists wanting to defend local community cultures against this "massification" of culture (hence their concept of massification).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Uses_of_Literacy#Massification_of_culture

...and they were in fact ANTI-CENSORSHIP; with with Richard Hoggart and Raymond Williams of The Birmingham School standing up against censorship at The Lady Chatterley trial. A censorship trial which is thought to have made Britain in the 1960s into a more permissive society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Chatterley's_Lover#British_obscenity_trial

Adorno was even PROTESTED by feminists in his day, and the modern incarnation of The Frankfurt School is still writing AGAINST Identity Politics; pointing out that economic class is a more important factor to oppression than the social categories of identity politics.

https://konspektikaust.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/nancy-fraser-rethinking-recognition/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jobrot/sandbox/Cultural_Marxism_(culture_studies)#Relationship_to_Feminism

You might also want to note that one of the key critics of Post-Modernism is also from The Frankfurt School. Namely Jurgen Habamas:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#9

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 14, 2016 6:57 PM  

BGKB wrote:I stay up late at night crying because I can't access (this name I have never seen before)'s thoughts.

Just don't cry on the korans. You know they won't burn when they're soggy.

Anonymous RandKoch October 14, 2016 7:07 PM  

Still some issues getting an account.

Tried getting an account yesterday but it never sent me the password. Tried the lost-my-password trick today. The first time was too soon, and it said it only does this once per day. At least that verified that they had me on file.

Tried again just now. It let me try, since it's been 24 hours, but there's still no password in my email.

I realize you've had trouble with this before. Just letting you know.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 7:24 PM  

fuckwit lied:The Cultural Marxists were just cultural theorists

Bullshit.
What you describe are tactics, not strategy and not goals. The goal of cultural Marxism is to isolate and shatter cultural identity, and if they can do that by setting one micro-culture against another, then that's the tactic they will use.
If they can get the costermongers fighting the fishwives, well, then who is speaking up for the English? If they can get the Presbyterians fighting the Episcopalians, quite likely they can co-opt one or even both, recruiting both very powerful identities to serve their civilization-shattering agenda of divorce, homosexuality, paedophilia, drug use, compliance and neo-Feudalism.

And look, by golly, they have.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 14, 2016 7:28 PM  

B.J. wrote:I would have gone with "Library of Alexandria" but maybe that's too long to be catchy.

I think someone already used that one.

Blogger fickbowt October 14, 2016 7:32 PM  

Snidely Whiplash, you know what else is a problem. The damn windmills; if only there was a great lover who could fight and defeat the windmills.

Anonymous Wyrd October 14, 2016 7:35 PM  

@61

Amen. Fickbowt is a world-class deceiver, serving his father Satan's mission of destruction and despair. Being a liberal-major myself in college, it was only several years later I understood how I was deceived by the likes of Fickbowt. He and his kind are pure evil.

Anonymous Wyrd October 14, 2016 7:37 PM  

LOL, captcha for street signs had Frankfurter St.

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative October 14, 2016 7:38 PM  

A search on Infogalactic for 'Cultural Marxism' redirects to 'Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory'.

Do we have a problem with entryism already?

OpenID randkoch October 14, 2016 7:46 PM  

Vermithrax Pejorative wrote:A search on Infogalactic for 'Cultural Marxism' redirects to 'Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory'.

Do we have a problem with entryism already?


It's going to be a long, long time before the old Wikipedia SJ crap gets cleaned up.

InfoGalactic: A place where social justice goes to die.

Anonymous Wyrd October 14, 2016 7:52 PM  

Nothing more to say, Fickbowt Wormtongue?

Anonymous Hrw-500 October 14, 2016 8:04 PM  

@55. Cloudswrest

There's also an archive copy dated from October 2014 located on the Wayback Machine aka Internet archive.

Blogger Lovekraft October 14, 2016 8:11 PM  

heartiste is now on gab

@Chateau_Pussygrab

Blogger bob k. mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) October 14, 2016 8:46 PM  

YIH wrote:
I've only heard of one person going from pr0n to not pr0n

35. Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 2:26 PM
Rebecca DeMornay



hanh? 'And God Created Woman' and 'Risky Business' may be steamy but they aren't technically porn.

Blogger Lazarus October 14, 2016 9:41 PM  

fickbowt wrote:The Cultural Marxists were just cultural theorists....

What? No reference to Critical Theory in all your blather?

No mention of Lukacs or Felix Weil?

Surely this is a mere oversight on your part, and not an intentional attempt to deceive, yes?

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative October 14, 2016 9:45 PM  

@67

"It's going to be a long time..."

Yeah it will. We may need to lock down some of the pages. I expect never-ending vandalism.

@69

Thanks for that. I grabbed the source. It needs some cleaning up and re-writing but I think I'm going to do it.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 14, 2016 9:45 PM  

Internet is a battlefield, check Drudge. Dear leader has authorized the CIA to attack certain areas of the Russian net

Blogger Lazarus October 14, 2016 10:06 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Internet is a battlefield, check Drudge. Dear leader has authorized the CIA to attack certain areas of the Russian net

This is not unusual.Its BS piled on Bullcrap. Kabuki. They are all hacking all the time.

The Houthis smacked a Saudi trimaran with Iranian missiles that need radar guidance (in the choke point of the Persian gulf). The Americans then claimed they were also fired upon but the missiles missed everything. No independent confirmation. They then destroyed 3 Iranian radar sites needed to guide the missiles.

Why would the Houthis attack the Americans? Does not make sense.

Why would North Vietnam attack the Americans in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Its bullshit 24/7.

Anonymous Dave October 14, 2016 10:16 PM  

bob k. mando ( Grab 'Em By The Pussy And Their Hearts And Minds Will Follow ) wrote:YIH wrote:

I've only heard of one person going from pr0n to not pr0n

35. Snidely Whiplash October 14, 2016 2:26 PM

Rebecca DeMornay


hanh? 'And God Created Woman' and 'Risky Business' may be steamy but they aren't technically porn.



Traci Lords is the most famous or infamous to do so but many have tried and mostly failed.

Blogger G-S. October 14, 2016 10:46 PM  

I like Wikipedia. It's not in depth, and doesn't want to be. It's there to just get a pretty good gist of a subject. It is a good source for information.

Blogger Dave October 14, 2016 10:52 PM  

I like turtles.

Anonymous Please clap October 14, 2016 11:13 PM  

I like turtles.

Jeb? Is that you?

Anonymous Just another commenter October 14, 2016 11:38 PM  

@77 -- You think Wikipedia is a good source of information? Really? Ah, that explains your comment in the other thread about not ignoring polls. You've been assimilated, and can safely be ignored. Moving on, then.

Anonymous What do SJW's do? October 15, 2016 12:10 AM  

What is with their brains that they can't help but see BREITBART behind everything?

SJW's Always Project.

OpenID randkoch October 15, 2016 12:19 AM  

80: To be fair, Wikipedia is a good source for some information some of the time.

Sometimes it's bad. The real trouble is when you think it's good, but it's bad anyway.

You go to information war with the encyclopedia you have, not the encyclopedia you want.

Blogger chris October 15, 2016 12:36 AM  

If they try to hide the article, there are plenty of web-archive copies of it.

http://archive.is/YzkIS

and

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

OpenID randkoch October 15, 2016 1:01 AM  

That gave me an idea. Wikipedia keeps the pages where they argue for its deletion. Here's this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cultural_Marxism_(2nd_nomination)

That may or may not be useful, but it's a reminder to search for other articles.

And here's search page, which also brings up some related ones. Many of those were not deleted.

I got there via their Articles for Deletion page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion

Blogger Garuda1 October 15, 2016 1:53 AM  

Semi-OT: Nate and BGS, are you guys on gab?

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 15, 2016 4:09 AM  

What do SJW's do? wrote:What is with their brains that they can't help but see BREITBART behind everything?

SJW's Always Project.


That doesn't make sense to me in this case. What are they projecting? Who is the one entity behind all of their things? We would think Soros, but they wouldn't. No psychological self-defense mechanism would be in play.

My hypothesis is that they're intellectually crippled by their assumptions; since they always fancy themselves to be the iconoclastic upstarts, they must then imagine all opposition to be institutional.

So there's projection, and now I've argued myself around into agreeing.

Anonymous Doogle October 15, 2016 7:10 AM  

My wife and I were checking out Infogalactic. Amazed at the quality and diversity of articles. Also good to see other free market alternatives to media being taken over by SJW's, progressives and the like....

Blogger Demonic Professor El October 15, 2016 8:39 AM  

Wikipedia also heavily distorts and misforms critiques of Marxism and Socialism, as well as related Marxists. They've also begun to edit out (((family histories))) for some folks too, though not all yet.

I remember the most ludicrous lie Wikipedia had on its page was about the Free French Army and the 1st French Army (1944-1945).

Did you know that the French Army was 90% black Africans and Arabs? AMAZING!!! I find it great that lily white France's armies were not white?? Amazing!!!

"By September 1944, the Free French forces stood at 550,000 (including 195,000 French from North Africa and 295,000 Maghrebis)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_France#Campaigns_in_France_and_Germany_1944.E2.80.931945

Only one source listed for that one, and the scholar is a (guess what??) Communist.

http://www.univ-reims.fr/site/laboratoire-labellise/cerhic-ea-2616/membres/philippe-buton,11911.html
(French)

Anonymous hrw-500 October 15, 2016 12:10 PM  

The satiric wiki Encyclopedia Dramatica talk of cultural marxism under liberalism. https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Cultural_Marxism. They're more on target than Wikipedia. ;-)

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 15, 2016 12:13 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Where the hell did all the money go?

It's not cheap to pay and army of SJW commissars to police wrong think. I've had alt accounts with fewer than 40 followers that only RT things blocked - the retards reading through millions of tweets to censor stuff like that are all being paid (I'm sure some of it is automated but the accounts I've had blocked have been too arbitary not to involve a human making the final decision)

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 15, 2016 6:41 PM  

Demonic Professor El wrote:Wikipedia also heavily distorts and misforms critiques of Marxism and Socialism, as well as related Marxists. They've also begun to edit out (((family histories))) for some folks too, though not all yet.

Yeah, family histories are really useful for me to understand why people do what they do, because character is destiny, so I can understand why the people that hate us would want to obscure it.

Anonymous James K October 17, 2016 10:01 PM  

Great idea! Here's my 2¢:

One of the most troublesome requirements of Wikipedia is for information to be sourced from secondary sources. In practice this means anything you add must come from a secondary source, or your change will be reverted. The existing page may itself come from primary sources, but will be left unchanged!

Infogalactic's "verifiability" is a much better criterion than "secondary sources", but it leaves the door open to "original research", which might cause problems - it is an invitation to dump rambling essays on Infogalactic.

Wikipedia's editors tend to litter articles with superscripts such as [who?], [reference required] etc. It would be more constructive if editors tried to chase up some of the loose ends themselves, instead of expecting someone else to do it.

It will be hard to find a large number of editors who will work for free while not being control freaks.

Perhaps there are not many pages where Wikipedia is positively misleading or non-existent. It may be easiest to curate these pages, and mirror Wikipedia for all the others.

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