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Wednesday, November 23, 2016

An interview with Mike Cernovich

EveryJoe interviews the bestselling author of MAGA MINDSET:
EveryJoe: In your book, MAGA Mindset: Making YOU and America Great Again, you claim that America’s motto might as well be “You can’t say that!” due to oppressive political correctness. How can individuals reclaim their free speech and fight back against outrage culture?

Mike Cernovich: Free speech in America is in a strange place. On the one hand, people are self-censoring due to fear of negative feedback. Americans are speaking out less than ever in history. Online hate mobs have ruined lives.

On the other side, there has never been more opportunity for free speech. Social media allows us to bypass fake news media gatekeepers, to share our message directly with the people. You can write a blog, start a podcast, create a YouTube channel, and even using social media platforms (although the future of these are less certain) like Twitter and Facebook to spread your message to the entire world.

People can support free speech by speaking truth to power, perhaps anonymously as a commentator. You can also share links to articles and video you find compelling. Those who aren’t in a position to speak publicly, due to the real risk of backlash, can also support those who share a positive and high impact message by providing resources to truth tellers.

EJ: You wrote and published MAGA Mindset weeks before Trump won the election. At the time, nearly every poll had Hillary Clinton winning by a comfortable margin, but the book hinges on a Trump victory. Was that kind of bold move an example of the MAGA mindset in action?

MC: Yes! That was a meta-move of mine. How can I expect people to trust my writing if I don’t live it?

I went all in on my beliefs. Had Trump lost, my own credibility would have been destroyed. In MAGA Mindset, readers learn how to think big and make bold moves. The first lesson was taught in real-time by my choice to release MAGA Mindset before the election.

Publishing a book explaining why Trump won when the “experts” said he would lose is an example of the MAGA Mindset in action.

EJ: At EveryJoe, we recently published an article that explained how Gamergate elected Donald Trump. Do you think Gamergate played a role in the election?

MC: Gamergate was the first pushback against the thought police. Before Gamergate, people who supported free speech felt isolated and alone. Gamergate showed that millions of people support free speech.

Moreover, Gamergate exposed unethical journalism of all types. People began trusting the media less than ever before. While I wouldn’t say Gamergate got Trump elected, it was a powerful force for free speech.
Read the whole thing there.

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57 Comments:

Anonymous Francois November 23, 2016 1:36 PM  

"On the one hand, people are self-censoring due to fear of negative feedback. Americans are speaking out less than ever in history. Online hate mobs have ruined lives."

Here is how we know his opinion is worthless: he can't conceive of the idea that people do t say "nigger" or "spic" or "kike" because they believe them unnecessary crude slurs. It's the same reason people don't go around yelling "cunt".

Cernovich inderstands nothing because of his martyr complex.

Blogger Nick S November 23, 2016 1:38 PM  

EJ: What do you make of the “fake news” scandal? Are Facebook and Google really trying to silence conservative voices?

MC: Fake news is a real problem. Pundits claimed the polls showing Hillary Clinton would win the election were accurate. Everyone who suggested the polls were flawed faced attacks. Fake news media claimed there was a rape by Duke lacrosse players. Fake news media claimed the Rolling Stone rape story was something other than a hoax. Fake news media claimed Hillary Clinton was in perfect health (until she collapsed due to a seizure after a 9/11 Memorial).

As we’ve seen, the experts were wrong. The New York Times (owned by a Mexican monopolist who has robbed Mexicans of billions of dollars) is fake news.


I was thinking about how the media suppresses and misrepresents real news as fake news this morning when I heard Congressman John Culberson talking about how defunding sanctuary cities is all lined up and ready to go for Trump on day one. It's something I hadn't heard about until now and that seemed odd given the thrust of Trump's campaign. I couldn't find the Fox News interview, but you can listen to the gist of Culberson's revelation in this interview with Howie Carr.

Keeping these things from the public is tantamount to lying by omission.

Anonymous Rip November 23, 2016 1:42 PM  

Hey VD, did you know Cernovich is trying to end identity politics? He is against racial politics. Yet we all know identity politics is inevitable in extremely multiracial nations. Does he not realize this?

Anonymous ReVengeance November 23, 2016 1:42 PM  

Francois is a cunt.

Anonymous Francois November 23, 2016 1:49 PM  

"Francois is a cunt."

So brave!!!

Anonymous BGKB November 23, 2016 1:52 PM  

Fortune always has favored the bold

Francois is a cunt. Talk about lucky breaks, I am glad he isn't a faggot.

defunding sanctuary cities is all lined up and ready to go for Trump on day one. It's something I hadn't heard about until now and that seemed odd given the thrust of Trump's

Shitlibs still don't know how TRUMP explained how he would pay for the wall by taxing remittances at the same level Carlos Slims does, using the same forms used to track money sent to Cuba, that is also lower than what Israel takes out of money sent to Palestinians. Here is TRUMPs 1st day, first week and first 100 day plan:

Darn I couldn't find it with yahoo but startpage had it. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/22/donald-trump-contract-with-the-american-voter/

Anonymous BGKB November 23, 2016 1:57 PM  

@2 Taken from his October speech, among 18 things he is doing on his first day:
"Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:
◾FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama
◾SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States
◾THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities

Anonymous Bo Sears November 23, 2016 2:04 PM  


< How can individuals reclaim their free speech and fight back against outrage culture? >


When the issue came up recently on FB (enjoying Thanksgiving when American Indians were oppressed), we responded in this way and tied in Christmas:

"The diverse white Americans have been pounded over the past 30-40 years by professors, preachers, priests, publishers, and all manner of globalists & pluralists for our 'guilt' that they proclaim based on a purely one-sided look at history. But we are now in the Age of Trump which measures guilt by personal actions, not ancient allegations, and it can be hard to understand that the old, one-sided version of history has been over-thrown. Enjoy Thanksgiving and remember that American Indians were there at that first feast, too, as well as English migrants. By the way, in the Age of Trump, everyone of Christian culture or belief is now free to say "Merry Christmas" in an entirely non-apologetic and non-ironic way to all our friends. The old ways are out, the new ways are in."

Anonymous Francois November 23, 2016 2:11 PM  

""The diverse white Americans have been pounded over the past 30-40 years by professors, preachers, priests, publishers, and all manner of globalists & pluralists for our 'guilt' that they proclaim based on a purely one-sided look at history."

Oh, poor baby. Oh, poor poor put-upon.

Nothing has changed since Trump's election. You can still say whatever you want. There was never any prohibition on you standing on the corner and enjoying a round of yelling, "God Damned Kike!!" And there is no such prohibition now.

It's just that good upstanding Americans don't do that sort of thing because...well...what's the point? American's leave that sort of disgusting behavior to Bannon and other gutter rats.

Blogger Ezekiel November 23, 2016 2:12 PM  

Walked into work this morning with some of the crew already at the break-table. Stretched out arm, yelled "HAIL TRUMP, HAIL VICTORY!"

Standing ovation.

The dam is cracking.

Blogger Pymander November 23, 2016 2:13 PM  

Did EveryJoe have to pay $10,000 for this interview?

Blogger Ezekiel November 23, 2016 2:13 PM  

Francois wrote:wordswordswordswordswordswords

wordswordswords

wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords

wordswordswordswordswordswordswords

And into the oven you go.

Anonymous Francois November 23, 2016 2:18 PM  

"And into the oven you go."

By who? Your great granny? I don't think so. YOu've got a country where the president can't more votes than the second place finisher and he turns out to be a man who's word is no good: "no, I'm not interested in prosecuting hillary"..." "No, I hate white nationalists".

Good luck with your agenda and your threats.

Anonymous Taco Town November 23, 2016 2:19 PM  

@Francois concern troll much?

Blogger Ezekiel November 23, 2016 2:19 PM  

Do you hear the people ree?
Singing the song of nazi frogs.
It is the music of a people who will not be cucks to wogs!
When the building of the wall echoes the beating of the drums,
Liberal tears will freely fall when November comes.

Will you join in our crusade?
A thousand ropes hang from the trees.
Destroy the full blown AIDS of this diseased society
Come join the alt-right and we'll make sure the whites can be free!

Anonymous Ironsides November 23, 2016 2:21 PM  

Troll in Aisle 7. Do not touch the troll poop. Warning! Warning! That stuff just doesn't wash off, other than perhaps with massive application of butthurt SJW tears.

Blogger Ezekiel November 23, 2016 2:24 PM  

Truth be told, I'm glad Trump lost the PV (should have worked harder mobilizing the illegals, felons, and corpses to vote for him instead of her I guess). Just makes the shitlib tears all the more salty.

Anonymous #8601 November 23, 2016 2:27 PM  

@15 Ezekiel

With beautiful lyrics like that, Les Desplorables would put Hamilton out of business.

Blogger haus frau November 23, 2016 2:28 PM  

I've been wondering why hillary didn't push for recouts in states like Michigan. Too many dead people, illegals and other illegitimate votes to risk it? Perhaps other voices prevailed over hers.. They still need the fraud machine in one piece for next time.

Blogger StrawMan November 23, 2016 2:33 PM  

(((Mike Cernovich)))

Blogger Ezekiel November 23, 2016 2:35 PM  

haus frau wrote:I've been wondering why hillary didn't push for recouts in states like Michigan. Too many dead people, illegals and other illegitimate votes to risk it? Perhaps other voices prevailed over hers.. They still need the fraud machine in one piece for next time.
That's *exactly* why she didn't do it, and why no one who actually draws a paycheck from her, Soros, the DNC et al is talking about it.

Blogger HanSolo November 23, 2016 2:43 PM  

OT: Black democratic political commentator says they don't need white people leading the Democratic Party

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/23/cnns_symone_sanders_we_dont_need_white_people_leading_the_democratic_party_right_now.html

Blogger VD November 23, 2016 2:45 PM  

Hey VD, did you know Cernovich is trying to end identity politics? He is against racial politics. Yet we all know identity politics is inevitable in extremely multiracial nations. Does he not realize this?

Let's you and him fight... what are you, a teenage girl?

Mike does not concern himself with the same things I do. I am no more interested in his opinion on identity politics than I am in his opinion on whether the Vikings should start Bridgewater or Bradford next year.

Different authors, different focuses. I trust Mike when it comes to media. I trust Van Creveld when it comes to war. I trust Jerry Pournelle when it comes to space.

Leave the political philosophy to me.

Blogger Student in Blue November 23, 2016 2:52 PM  

Different authors, different focuses. I trust Mike when it comes to media. I trust Van Creveld when it comes to war. I trust Jerry Pournelle when it comes to space.

It's the same sort of thing as people valuing the political opinions of actors.

Anonymous Cuckservative trying out rhetoric November 23, 2016 2:54 PM  

Francois is the real racist. Francois is the real anti Semite.

How am I doing?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 23, 2016 2:58 PM  

@22
Excellent news. Just like the "No White People Needed" casting call for Hamilton. The sooner the DNCe's weisse hasse is made visibly tangible, the better.

Blogger Johnny November 23, 2016 3:27 PM  

haus frau wrote:I've been wondering why hillary didn't push for recouts in states like Michigan. Too many dead people, illegals and other illegitimate votes to risk it? Perhaps other voices prevailed over hers.. They still need the fraud machine in one piece for next time.

Another possibility is that there is an understanding between Hillary and Trump. If she goes away and doesn't bother him any more she does not get prosecuted.

Blogger GFR November 23, 2016 3:43 PM  

@22
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Symone Sanders is exactly right. Having rich White people represent the interests of poor blacks and hispanics isn't working worth a damn.
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Oh wait, obama is black - never mind..

Blogger GFR November 23, 2016 3:47 PM  

@27
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There was good evidence that the democrats committed vote fraud. It may be that this is an attempt to claim that both parties did it. In much the same way that the democrats smeared Trump with sexual assault allegations to avoid having to answer for bill clinton being a rapist.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 23, 2016 4:14 PM  

@13 But isn't that exactly what Hitler did? He said he wanted peace from 1933 to 1939, and the whole time he was preparing to conquer the world and kill all the Untermenschen. OMG Trump really is Hitler!

Anonymous Avalanche November 23, 2016 4:51 PM  

@7 You know,I keep wondering if any of the (((PTB))) have noticedthis one:

FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;

Lemme see now.... jes' whaaaaa foreign gummint could he have in his head? Hmmmm... I can think of two, right away...

Anonymous Avalanche November 23, 2016 4:54 PM  

@19 "I've been wondering why hillary didn't push for recouts in states like Michigan. Too many dead people, illegals and other illegitimate votes to risk it?"

Too busy hitting Pedoesta and Moody for failing her!

Anonymous Rip November 23, 2016 5:05 PM  

VD wrote:Let's you and him fight...
Well that's the problem. The left will keep pushing Trump, and by extension his supporters, to disavow and/or confront the alt-right. Mainstream Trump supporters are already doing what they can to exclude "racists" and neo-Nazis. For example, you will get banned from /r/the_donald subreddit for promoting alt-right positions (ie., racism).

They will either have to accept or ignore the association with the alt-right... or be actively hostile to it. Trump has been forced to disavow it, and the left will keep pushing him on that front. Cernovich is on the path of eventual hostility if you say he isn't concerned with the philosophical underpinnings of the alt-right.

Blogger Ingot9455 November 23, 2016 5:42 PM  

@212 Yes, and Trump had the legal teams in place to do all the appropriate vote-challenging to prevent the Dems from 'finding' boxes of votes like they do in Oregon and Washington and Minnesota. Clinton already won those places. So any such dragging recounts just allow more absentee military ballots to come in and be counted.

Blogger Captain asphalt November 23, 2016 6:40 PM  

After the tantrum video Mike "go leave 1 star review at Amazon" Chernovich did because Spencer raised his right hand up (it was a toast he didn't even sieg heiled), I think writing a book called pussy-mindset, would be much more fitting to his charachter.

Blogger Brian H November 23, 2016 7:45 PM  

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what people are arguing about, but I've seen two tweets from the past where Cernovich appears to identify himself as alt-right. Now it seems he says he's not alt-right.

Blogger Brian H November 23, 2016 7:45 PM  

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Anonymous Godfrey November 23, 2016 7:49 PM  

@35 Captain Ass

Spencer helps the enemy. Thus he is the enemy.

Blogger Lovekraft November 23, 2016 7:51 PM  

Over at gab, Mike along with Paul Joseph Watson are taking heat for apparently capitulating on alt-right racial purism.

My comment to one was "VoxDay vouches for Mike and until VD renounces him, Mike is on our team.'

Watson is the real deal as well. The reason Infowars is getting so much flak is IMO because they are poking the right bears.

Blogger VD November 23, 2016 7:53 PM  

Well that's the problem. The left will keep pushing Trump, and by extension his supporters, to disavow and/or confront the alt-right. Mainstream Trump supporters are already doing what they can to exclude "racists" and neo-Nazis. For example, you will get banned from /r/the_donald subreddit for promoting alt-right positions (ie., racism).

They will either have to accept or ignore the association with the alt-right... or be actively hostile to it. Trump has been forced to disavow it, and the left will keep pushing him on that front. Cernovich is on the path of eventual hostility if you say he isn't concerned with the philosophical underpinnings of the alt-right.


It's always amusing listening to people who are never right about anything, who are at least 2SD below me, and told me I was wrong about Trump since before Super Tuesday, telling me what will happen.

For the Nth time, none of this little tempest in a teapot matters. At all. Spencer is irrelevant. Cernovich isn't even Alt-Right proper; he not only doesn't go in for identity politics, he's not really into politics at all. His two interests are media and self-improvement, but all the media has been talking about for the last year is US politics.

Enough of the drama. The next squirrel will be along shortly and you can bark at that too.

Blogger VD November 23, 2016 7:55 PM  

Spencer helps the enemy. Thus he is the enemy.

Don't be ridiculous. Expecting perfection in allies is more self-defeating than the NPI buffoonery was.

Over at gab, Mike along with Paul Joseph Watson are taking heat for apparently capitulating on alt-right racial purism.

You can't capitulate from a position you never held.

Anonymous Godfrey November 23, 2016 8:07 PM  

@41
Naturally you're right. I'm on edge. I was just pissed about his antics and reacted emotionally.

But if the day were to ever come where I'm in a foxhole and the antics of some clown there with me resulted in mortar fire raining down directly on our position I'd be sorely tempted to put a bullet in the fuckers head.

Blogger VD November 23, 2016 8:15 PM  

I'm on edge. I was just pissed about his antics and reacted emotionally.

So are a lot of people. First, it's unnecessary. Second, it reduces your analytical ability and your performance. When you can feel yourself heating up, that's the moment to ice your emotions.

Unfortunately, Richard has decided to double down and try to keep dancing for the media. So, now he's talking about "civil war" in the Alt-Right and other such nonsense. Just ignore it. Ignore the drama queens who want to reenact high school and take sides.

This is absolutely nothing compared to the stress and conflict that will come down the road when the pressure cooker that is the Democratic party explodes. So get fucking used to it.

If you're feeling upset or angry, get off the Internet.

Anonymous Tipsy November 23, 2016 8:22 PM  

OT, it's amazing how almost prophetic Trump's 2011 book "Time to get Tough" is. He's got a talent for seeing trends.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 23, 2016 8:31 PM  

haus frau wrote:I've been wondering why hillary didn't push for recouts in states like Michigan. Too many dead people, illegals and other illegitimate votes to risk it?
There was a brief kerfuffle over it, only to be squelched when someone told them that Michigan uses paper ballots exclusively and only counts them electronically.  The deadline for a recount request is rapidly approaching and they've realized their quiver is empty.

@22 Great!  Steve Sailer suggested branding the Democraps as the Black party to drive away a lot of other NAMs (with the possible exception of skypes), but it's so much easier if they do it themselves.

Blogger Captain asphalt November 23, 2016 8:43 PM  

@38
If you are worried that this will make the alt-right look worse, than you are stupid, if you are worried that this will make Trump look worse, than it dosen't matter, he already won the election.

The only reason VD says Spencer saluting (it was a toast) was a mistake because Chernovich is his friend, who got pussied out by it (it is also a factor that he publishes his book).

Anonymous Sciurus November 23, 2016 8:54 PM  

@43

I don't understand why anyone is freaking out. Nothing about this can hurt anyone except Spencer himself. I mean, the most he could possibly do would be to ghettoize the name 'Alt-Right' if he insisted upon playing to the media. But, as you've observed repeatedly, the political tide exists apart from any words we use to name it. Making 'alt-right' mean one particular wave in that tide would change nothing about the coming storm.

Anonymous Rip November 23, 2016 9:12 PM  

VD wrote:For the Nth time, none of this little tempest in a teapot matters. At all. Spencer is irrelevant. Cernovich isn't even Alt-Right proper; he not only doesn't go in for identity politics, he's not really into politics at all.

Enough of the drama. The next squirrel will be along shortly and you can bark at that too.

You're right, I agree it's not very important in the long run. But Cernovich is more into politics than you think. He's planning on a push for pro-Trump candidates to win elections in 2018.

Here he says, "I'm already planning the Congressional takeover of 2018."

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/797514532088414208

Blogger Lazarus November 23, 2016 9:16 PM  

Captain asphalt wrote:The only reason VD says Spencer saluting (it was a toast) was a mistake because Chernovich is his friend, who got pussied out by it (it is also a factor that he publishes his book).


Read the post "Media Discipline" below (Nov. 22) so you do not have to wallow in your own ignorance.
It is most unbecoming.

Blogger Captain asphalt November 23, 2016 9:28 PM  

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Blogger Captain asphalt November 23, 2016 9:29 PM  

@49
How is that in any way relevant?
Spencer didn't gave an interview to the (((media))), they just took something and blew it completley out of proportion and Trump cucked on it. If anything it was free marketing for Spencer worth (literally) millions of dollar.

Blogger Lazarus November 23, 2016 9:36 PM  

Captain asphalt wrote:How is that in any way relevant?

You are trying to tell us what VD's motivation is, whereas he did a whole post on it. Therefore, your speculation is baseless, i.e. shit you made up in your head.

Blogger Captain asphalt November 23, 2016 9:48 PM  

@52
Well VD contradicts what he wrote in "SJW-s Always Lie" with his stance on this roman salute thingy, I think he is dishonest due to his personal ties with Chernovich. I can be wrong of course.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 23, 2016 9:57 PM  

@ Captain AsSperg

Take the chill pill of your own choosing, you're melting down.
Or you're trolling very badly.

Blogger Markku November 23, 2016 10:26 PM  

Yep, this supposed civil war is a narrative the media drools for, and there will be Soros trolls and shills trying to provoke it further. Chill pill is the answer.

Anonymous JAMES November 23, 2016 11:10 PM  

Captain A Spencer made a fool of himself.

To be honest so did Mike with that woeful periscope broadcast.

The Daily Shoah goys also looked foolish talking about how Mike wasn't worth talking about on and off for three hours.

Spencer also looked a fool in that interview on that idiot obese black man's show.

Vox gave a sober analysis of the situation and has now got the TRS fanboys screeching at him.

Overall it's much ado about very little

Blogger Thucydides November 24, 2016 9:39 AM  

Just remember that anything broadcast on the Legacy Media is in support of their "Narrative" rather than a truthful recounting of events, and it all falls into perspective.

They "want" to characterize all of us as "Racists, "XXXXphobes", "deplorable" and any other adjective that "disqualifies" us (in their minds at least). If they can plant that narrative in their ever shrinking audiences, they will be able to automatically discount anything that the Alt-Right says or does.

I'm not going to stress, since they are so obviously two faced (after a decade of ignoring the antics of the Clinton Foundation, they suddenly "see the light" and are busy reporting on Donald Trump's business interests and potential conflicts of interest? Really?) that they have worked their way into irrelevance. And as more and more people come to realize that what the media shows is in no way reflective of the reality they live and work in, the greater the preference cascade away from them. If they were in any way self aware, then they would have realized this and taken corrective measures, but instead they are already going to the Second Law and Doubling Down.

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