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Friday, November 25, 2016

Cuck to cuck

(((Ben Shapiro))) supercucks for David French, one-time standard bearer for the William Kristol virtual party:
For folks who don’t know what the alt-right is, it might be worthwhile to just sort of start at the beginning and talk about what the alt-right is—because there are a lot of these various definitions floating around, nearly all of which are wrong.

Basically, the alt-right is a group of thinkers who believe that Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity—which is racist, obviously. It’s people who believe that if Western civilization were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Western civilization. As you may notice, this has nothing to do with the Constitution. It has nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence. It has nothing to do actually with Western civilization. The whole principle of Western civilization is that anybody can involve himself or herself in civilized values. That’s not what the alt-right believes—at least its leading thinkers, people like Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor and Vox Day. Those kind of folks will openly acknowledge that this is their thought process.
Got that? It is RACIST to believe that the European nations are an integral element of Western civilization.

The fact that (((Ben))) asserts that the idea that "anybody can involve himself or herself in civilized values" is "the whole principle of Western civilization" is one of the most shamelessly dishonest things I have ever heard a self-styled conservative say.

As for the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they are latter-day consequences of Western civilization, the most certainly do not define it. Moreover, the Constitution was written specifically to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity", not for immigrants, foreigners, or "the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions".

Apparently (((Ben))) is not content that his forebears have attempted to redefine America, American, and Posterity, now he is attempting to redefine Western civilization as something that is non-European. Conservatives, is this really someone you are willing to accept as a conservative spokesman?

Notice that the interview is featured on Slate. It appears the cuckservatives are now publicly moving Left. And the interview reveals considerably more about (((Ben))) and his proclivities than one might like to know.

"As long as he’s a pure Aryan shtupping your wife, then you’re fine."
- Ben Shapiro

So, (((Ben))) isn't merely a political cuckservative, he's a true cuck in the original sense of the word. Well, I understand Mrs. Shapiro can get Mike Cernovich's number from Seth Rogen's wife.


UPDATE: I thought this tweet from @SpiritOfTrump was more than a little relevant.

My civilization is more than a fucking piece of paper. It's my blood, my gods, my land.

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184 Comments:

Anonymous Wyrd November 25, 2016 1:05 PM  

Why is anyone still listening to little Benji?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilQ_31WquQ

Blogger Daniel November 25, 2016 1:06 PM  

Dude, cut the bromance with cernovich!

Anonymous Faceless November 25, 2016 1:13 PM  

It's great to know that if we brought in 1 billion Chinese, that doesn't mean we would be a province of China. They'd probably start speaking English immediately and driving Dodge Chargers.

Why were the Canadians worried that bringing in 38.8 million Californians would make the 35.5 million Canadians their subjects? I'm sure the Californians could just pledge to the trade agreement with the UK at a Tim Horton's.

Anonymous Tommy November 25, 2016 1:14 PM  

"The fact that (((Ben))) asserts that the idea that..."

And here we learn that Vox Day can't address someone's argument without attempting an ethnic slur....For the sake of making an ethnic slur.

It makes him small, incompetent and, in the end, of little use to anyone but himself.

Why the need to point out the guys ethnicity/religion? Use intellectual crutches much, VD?

You continually lower the intellectual bar.

Anonymous Ironsides November 25, 2016 1:15 PM  

Damn, Shapiro is so deeply sunk in the sewage of stupidity and cuckery that I'm surprised he can still breathe. He must have one hell of a long snorkel.

Anonymous Tommy November 25, 2016 1:16 PM  

"Why is anyone still listening to little Benji?"

Because he continually and easily bests the best "Minds" of the Alt Right...and they HATE it.

Anonymous Erik November 25, 2016 1:18 PM  

And here we learn that Tommy doesn't know what an ethnic slur is but still feels competent to psychoanalyze why Vox supposedly used one.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 25, 2016 1:20 PM  

I've seen this "alt-right doesn't mind cucking as long as the baby is white" bit a lot from cuckservatives. Is this shame manifesting as projection.

Anonymous Dave November 25, 2016 1:20 PM  

That's not nice. Are you even trying to be nicer?

Anonymous Teapartydoc November 25, 2016 1:22 PM  

I think you are missing the entire point. Shapiro is being racist against European whites with his attempted redefinition of Western Civilization. This is the M.O. of Jews. It is perfectly natural for someone who recognizes the reality of the situation to respond thusly. Try taking off your own blinders for a change.

Anonymous Teapartydoc November 25, 2016 1:23 PM  

Fuckin' A.

Anonymous Battlefrog November 25, 2016 1:23 PM  

It's probably been posted here at some time or another, but just in case anyone has missed this gem: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jilQ_31WquQ

Anonymous WinstonWebb November 25, 2016 1:25 PM  

"When Milo was thrown off of Twitter, 70 percent of the anti-Semitism in my feed disappeared immediately."
---Lil Benji Shapiro

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Milo Jewish?

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable November 25, 2016 1:26 PM  

And here we learn that Vox Day can't address someone's argument without attempting an ethnic slur....For the sake of making an ethnic slur.

Shapiro's ethnicity is entirely relevant to his motivations and therefore to the crap he is currently spewing.

Anonymous Faceless November 25, 2016 1:26 PM  

@Tommy

When somebody always mentions that in his bio, it would be rude to try to minimize what he considers his main identity.

I don't see any tags around Cernovich; I don't see Cernovich reminding everybody he's an ethnic Jew, either. One has to have good manners to treat people how they self-identify.

Loren Feldman's just being polite when he starts all his Shapiro videos with a recitation of the credentials, including being an Orthodox Jew.

Anonymous Philipp November 25, 2016 1:28 PM  

"It’s people who believe that if Western civilization were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Western civilization."

Yes, we believe. Isn't it obivious that you can have a Western civilisation only in countries with a large majority of Western people (i.e. Europeans or people of European descent)?

If current trends don't change, history and reality will show Ben during our lifetimes that the Alt Right is right and he is wrong.

Blogger Deadmau5 Patton November 25, 2016 1:28 PM  

@10 nobody misses the point you're making. as true as what you're saying is, playing the "they're the REAL racists" card is obviously ineffective

Anonymous Battlefrog November 25, 2016 1:28 PM  

In fact it was posted as the first comment here. My bad.

Blogger 1337kestrel November 25, 2016 1:28 PM  

I think the takeaway is that most of Ben's traffic was from Milo.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 25, 2016 1:31 PM  

I've seen this "alt-right doesn't mind cucking as long as the baby is white" bit a lot from cuckservatives. Is this shame manifesting as projection.

More or less. The cuck label has been driving them batty since it was first used, so they assume it will equally bother their own targets. Of course, that's not how insults work.

Anonymous anduin November 25, 2016 1:33 PM  

Honestly, I agree with Land here, and all this actually agrees with his observations http://www.xenosystems.net/the-alt-right-is-dead/

Blogger The Reactionary November 25, 2016 1:34 PM  

@4 Shut up (((manlet)))

Blogger Keith November 25, 2016 1:35 PM  

He has to go back. He can help them fight forest fires. Smokey Ben!

Blogger Cail Corishev November 25, 2016 1:38 PM  

Why is anyone still listening to little Benji?

Inertia. The worthlessness of the cuckservatives, not to mention pollsters like Nate Siler and the Old Media, was proved conclusively only a couple weeks ago. It takes a while for people to change their viewing and reading habits. Give it a a few months, especially after all their predictions about Trump's presidency fail as badly as their predictions about his campaign.

Fortunately, the cucks are moving left, as Vox points out, so they will soon drive away anyone with sense who hasn't caught on yet. They will be left with very dedicated but small cults. The most entertaining few will get jobs as useful idiots for the left, and the rest will have to find new careers.

Anonymous Bagger Vance November 25, 2016 1:38 PM  

"--which is racist, obviously". Good deflection for the vast majority that would otherwise read the preceding and find it self-evident.

Blogger Nate November 25, 2016 1:39 PM  

"It’s people who believe that if Western civilization were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Western civilization. "

its fascinating that people who buy this melting pot idea can't seem to grasp that if you put a bunch of aluminum in a small batch of molten steel... you don't have steel anymore.

Anonymous An Extremely Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than A Basket Of Twenty Deplorable Cents November 25, 2016 1:39 PM  

Let's take one sentence of (((Ben Shapiro)))'s text and revisit it.

It’s people who believe that if Mexican civilization were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Mexican civilization.

Anyone have a problem with that? The Mexicans sure believe it, their laws about who gets to own property near the coastline, who gets to participate in Mexican elections and the big wall they are building along their southern border tells us how much they believe it.

It’s people who believe that if Japanese civilization were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Japanese civilization.

Any problem with that? The Japanese sure believe it, as their refugee and immigration policies clearly show.

Aaaaaannnddd....one more.

It’s people who believe that if Israel were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Israeli civilization.

Any questions?

Blogger ace November 25, 2016 1:39 PM  

"It has nothing to do actually with Western civilization. The whole principle of Western civilization is that anybody can involve himself or herself in civilized values."

In what way is this the 'whole principle' of Western civilization? It is at best one of the principles, fairly recently minted, and has been demonstrated to be false in cases where populations from other civilizations achieve local majorities in the West. They don't magically develop an appreciation for Greek philosophy or Christianity. They do participate in 'civilized society'--their own version of that, be it Islamic or Asian or Latin American. Not Western.

Does Shapiro think that the only 'civilized values' are Western values? That glass skyscrapers and economic prosperity are synonymous with Western civilization? The only way his sentiment makes sense is if he believes the modern world itself is entirely Western and that the only alternative to Western civilization is barbarism.

Remind me who is supposed to be the Chauvinist here?

Anonymous BGKB November 25, 2016 1:41 PM  

The whole principle of Western civilization is that anybody can involve himself or herself in civilized values

Anyone can but at least moslems are honest about hating everything about the West except the benefits office.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Milo Jewish?

Benji doesn't want to admit that Milo doesn't like (((guys))) smaller than his thumb either.

Blogger yoghi.llama November 25, 2016 1:41 PM  

I guess you're Alt Right if you believe that western people made western civilization, and western people continue western civilization.

I bear Japanese civilization, Persian civilization and Central American civilization no ill will. They are fascinating and I wish to learn more of them.

But if push came to shove, I wouldn't lift a finger to save them. Why? I just wouldn't know how. I am not Japanese, Persian, or Central American. I might well be in my next life, but not this one.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 25, 2016 1:41 PM  

Notice that the interview is featured on Slate. It appears the cuckservatives are now publicly moving Left.

Well, sure, if nothing else their cucking fetish isn't a big deal to the Leftards.

Anonymous Beau November 25, 2016 1:43 PM  

@21

Predicting the death of the Alt-Right is akin to predicting the death of Gamergate, Hillary's triumph over Trump, or the parousia.

Blogger kennymac November 25, 2016 1:45 PM  

Poor widdle Tommy, all butthurt cuz Vox is being a big meanie

Anonymous An Extremely Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than A Basket Of Twenty Deplorable Cents November 25, 2016 1:46 PM  

(((Ben Shapiro))), David French, Willim Kristol and Egghead McMuffin walk into a bar.

The bartender looks up, and says, "Hey, look, here's the Party!"

Blogger Nate November 25, 2016 1:47 PM  

"Why is anyone still listening to little Benji?"

fewer and fewer are.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 25, 2016 1:50 PM  

@31, Their cucking is valuable to the left. Look how many of them tried to get Hillary elected, either by endorsing her overtly or by spending several months trying to depress Trump voters. They made it possible for the left to say, "Look, it's not just us saying Trump is a racist, sexist war-monger; these respected conservatives are saying it too."

It's hard to say for sure, but they may also have cost Trump a few states, making the Trumpslide less impressive than it would have been.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 25, 2016 1:53 PM  

Since (((little Benji))) is now padding the expense account of Slate writers, who will be the next to show up there?

(((Jonah Goldberg)))? Ramesh Ponnoru? Kevin Williamson?
Anyone want to guess how long before National Review merges with Slate?

Anonymous anduin November 25, 2016 1:58 PM  

@32
Land's reasoning is sound tho. Certainly more sound than most of what you can read around here.

Blogger Salt November 25, 2016 1:58 PM  

(((Little Ben))), fuck off.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 25, 2016 2:00 PM  

If not European countries, from whence does Western Civilization spring?

Blogger Nate November 25, 2016 2:02 PM  

I mean the term Western Civilization refers to western nations.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 25, 2016 2:03 PM  

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Anonymous Elijah Rhodes November 25, 2016 2:03 PM  

If ethnicity is irrelevant to maintaining a particular civilization, then why doesn't (((Benji))) advocate for a multicultural Israel?

Blogger dc.sunsets November 25, 2016 2:04 PM  

Whatever the Alt-Right is, it's also an acceptance of Human BioDiversity (HBD), and the incontrovertible evidence that culture is genetic no less than retrieving or pointing or fighting is among different breeds of dogs.

The Alt-Right is populated by people who are no longer willing to tolerate those who insist that raising Short-haired Pointers among American Staffordshire Terriers will make the former great fighting dogs.

It us astonishing to see otherwise intelligent people insist you can have the unique attributes of Western Civilization without Westerners.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 25, 2016 2:06 PM  

I've seen this "alt-right doesn't mind cucking as long as the baby is white" bit a lot from cuckservatives. Is this shame manifesting as projection.

They're either perverts projecting, ignorant of both linguistics and avian biology, think it could be a winning argument, or some combination of the above. I don't know and, of course, I don't care.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 25, 2016 2:06 PM  

Diversity for thee, but not for me.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 25, 2016 2:06 PM  

(((conservativism)))

Blogger dc.sunsets November 25, 2016 2:08 PM  

This is evidence both that the recent-right is openly joining the left and the current & future right will become a contest between the whiney lites and the brutalist reals.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 25, 2016 2:11 PM  

@38
Land's reasoning is sound if we are still living in the 20th Century ideological thinking pattern.

Since it's Current Year, his premises are false so his reasoning is not sound.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 25, 2016 2:14 PM  

@36
@31, Their cucking is valuable to the left. Look how many of them tried to get Hillary elected, either by endorsing her overtly or by spending several months trying to depress Trump voters. They made it possible for the left to say, "Look, it's not just us saying Trump is a racist, sexist war-monger; these respected conservatives are saying it too."

Sure, but now that the mask has slipped a bit the cuckservatives will have to either backtrack on their cucking or visibly move to the left, as (((little Benji))) looks to be doing. They can still be useful to the Leftards in the George Will, house conservative sense. It won't be as fun, but the paychecks will still be there.

Blogger The Aardvark November 25, 2016 2:16 PM  

Such racist...very obviously...
wow

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 25, 2016 2:17 PM  

You've got to wonder why (((Ben))) cares so much about the opinions of us Russian hackers anyway.

Anonymous An Extremely Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than A Basket Of Twenty Deplorable Cents November 25, 2016 2:18 PM  

@52
Wait, don't you mean deplorable Russian hackers?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 25, 2016 2:19 PM  

Ben is playing real estate agent for Magic Dirt, literally selling our land to any immigrant or invader who can pay. It is what it has come down to selling our land out from underneath us.

I think it is time for Ben to head to Israel.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 25, 2016 2:19 PM  

@53 Is there any other kind?

Blogger haus frau November 25, 2016 2:21 PM  

Cail,
I suppose the heart of issue by cuckservative reasoning, is that if the baby looks like it's parents others wouldn't know how low mom's standards are which reflects directly on mom's cuckservative white husband.

Anonymous PAC November 25, 2016 2:23 PM  

I don't understand how a Jew--that is to say, by definition, an unassimilated Jew--can be a cuck.

He's just maintaining his Jewish identity by subverting his host's.Standard survival procedure, and the opposite of cucking.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 25, 2016 2:23 PM  

I suppose, though, we are Russian hacker Nazis.

победа heil!

Anonymous grey enlightenment November 25, 2016 2:24 PM  

I'm kinda mixed on this. Ben is right about many things but hes wrong to pick fights wit the alt-right

Anonymous Sam the Man November 25, 2016 2:25 PM  

Well I may be a minority here, but I think folks can embrace Western Christian values that are the basis of western/American civilization. But to do that one must reject that part of the culture which they came from that is at odds with western Christendom. If one is willing to step back from ones internal worldview it can be done.

That said, it is very hard for most folks, harder still if they maintain a sense that their native values or in-group advantages are worth preserving or they live in a in-group ghetto within the larger world. The problem is they see the many advantages of the western civilization as a background, not realizing it is fundamental to the good life they live. Also a lot of the folks who are undermining the US Christian values are simply full of resentment, hate to say it but it is true.

Ben S is rally an embarrassment, with his "we need to send folks to war but not me", "I expect to use in- group preference but will deny that my path to success" and "I get to define the right wing value". A complete putz and turd.

Blogger Student in Blue November 25, 2016 2:25 PM  

@26. Nate
its fascinating that people who buy this melting pot idea can't seem to grasp that if you put a bunch of aluminum in a small batch of molten steel... you don't have steel anymore.

Nor do they wish to imagine just what exactly the crucible will end up being.

Anonymous johnc November 25, 2016 2:28 PM  

Shapiro isn't very bright.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 25, 2016 2:31 PM  

@60 Spend some time talking to people on Black Twitter and see if you still believe that. Not even one in ten that I've talked to can grasp the connection between the police state that's been created by the War On Drugs with police killings of blacks.

Many of the Asian races are intellectually capable of reproducing Western Civilization, but they prefer their own cultures, and the alt-right doesn't blame them a bit for that.

Blogger VFM #7634 November 25, 2016 2:31 PM  

Hi[t]lary reacts to Trump winning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvPWVDqBII8

(Note: I do actually understand some German, so I tried to make the subtitles at least loosely fit the spoken dialogue.)

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 25, 2016 2:34 PM  

Basically, the alt-right is a group of thinkers who believe that Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity

Yes, Ben you are indeed in possession of a fact. Cherish this singular moment and hold it tight to your frantically beating breast!

—which is racist, obviously.

Annnnd the moment is over. It's a premature and unsatisfying ending to be sure but as Mrs. Shapiro has repeatedly assured you that is nothing to worry about. It happens to everyone.

The sad thing is that this was written by the author of "Brainwashed: How Universities Indoctrinate America's Youth." Admittedly Ben scribbled that one down ten years ago back when it was an "unspeakable" as a opposed to a "fucking obvious" truth.

But still it showed a will to win.

That will is gone.

He wrote it when he was seventeen, when he could clearly see a future that was closing in front of Millennials like the fist of an Iron Giant.

But then he followed it up with...nothing.

Nothing of substance anyway.

Anonymous BGKB November 25, 2016 2:34 PM  

OT: The purrfect Christmas gift for leftist cat ladies. http://theworstthingsforsale.com/2016/08/13/cooking-for-two-your-cat-you/

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 25, 2016 2:36 PM  

@66 LOL it's actually real. Available on Amazon!

Blogger Hal Gore November 25, 2016 2:43 PM  

Dannis Prager on homosexuality:

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles2/PragerHomosexuality.php?/articles2/PragerHomosexuality.shtml

Blogger Hal Gore November 25, 2016 2:45 PM  

Sorry, could not edit previous. Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality

Anonymous VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go 'Hmm'” November 25, 2016 2:47 PM  

""The fact that (((Ben))) asserts that the idea that..."

And here we learn that Vox Day can't address someone's argument without attempting an ethnic slur....For the sake of making an ethnic slur."

And here we learn that it's an ethnic slur to identify a Jew whilst said Jew is rationalizing unrestricted immigration to majority-white countries. Presumably, if you notice a Jew's ethnicity whilst he is donating to charity, that's cool. It's situational, people!

Blogger Hal Gore November 25, 2016 2:48 PM  

She is right:
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/11/17/black-guelphs-matterpart1/

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 25, 2016 2:52 PM  

Wyrd:
Why is anyone still listening to little Benji?

I have no idea. I pay no attention to anything he says. By the sam token, why is anyone still listening to (((the media)))? It's not as if they aren't anything except a propaganda mill. The sooner (((the media))) and (((the littlest chickenhawk))) are relagated to the garbage-heap of history, the better.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 25, 2016 3:05 PM  

I'm kinda mixed on this. Ben is right about many things but hes wrong to pick fights wit the alt-right

He's wrong about the most important things, so the rest is irrelevant.

There are plenty of smart, well-spoken people on the right. It's time to stop putting up with leaders and spokesmen who only betray our core principles and shoot in our direction some of the time.

Blogger Hal Gore November 25, 2016 3:07 PM  

As a white person, married to a white wife, most of the total losers in my community are white. The heroin OD's are white. The loser neighbors who moved out are white. A Vox America has too many loser whites. Democrats.

If skin color is your uniform then JF Kerry and his, are yours.

Blogger Hal Gore November 25, 2016 3:09 PM  

Gen. Kong. has ((a)) sam token?

Blogger BassmanCO November 25, 2016 3:10 PM  

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....oh man, that is too funny.

But seriously Tommy, have you always been a moron or only when you post here?

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor November 25, 2016 3:13 PM  

@65 It happens to everyone.

And Mrs. Shapiro would know, apparently.

Anonymous Ironsides November 25, 2016 3:14 PM  

Hal Gore wrote:As a white person, married to a white wife, most of the total losers in my community are white. The heroin OD's are white. The loser neighbors who moved out are white. A Vox America has too many loser whites. Democrats.

If skin color is your uniform then JF Kerry and his, are yours.


This is why the concept "traitor" exists.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 25, 2016 3:17 PM  

Well I may be a minority here, but I think folks can embrace Western Christian values that are the basis of western/American civilization.

You are fair to list a couple of difficulties with that, but you miss one, which is that they have to be genetic sports to succeed.

It's like how the NBA rookie of the year will almost certainly have a worse season next year, because in order for him to beat all the other rookies, he almost certainly had a great season even by his own standards.

Ad we've seen with people like the "American" (actually a -stani Moslem with U.S. citizenship) who shot up a gay bar in Florida on Latino night, the second and even third generations will tend to revert to their ethno-cultural mean.

You have to think of the future.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky November 25, 2016 3:24 PM  

Last year Salon Magazine called Ben Shapiro "the next Ayn Rand." Ben crowed about it on Twitter for a while.

Last year Salon Magazine also came out in defense of pedophilia.

Let's use the same logic on Ben as he applies to us. We on the Alt-Right are Nazis, Ben maintains, because Richard Spencer. Okay, then, Ben Shapiro is a paedophile. Because Salon.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable November 25, 2016 3:24 PM  

the ethnicity makes no difference to the validity of the argument

Are you mad? The argument would not even be made if not for Shapiro's ethnicity. He wants to be included and resents that he's not considered "in". Up until now, he was seen as an estimable conservative voice in a movement that was largely directed by Jewish voices. Suddenly, he's not only outside the camp, but potentially a pariah.

Blogger Mountain Man November 25, 2016 3:27 PM  

"I hate tribalism on all sides "-Ben Shapiro

...unless of course it involves my ((tribe)) , then I'm all in.

Anonymous Eric the Red November 25, 2016 3:31 PM  

Benji...

Now that I'm here in your country, I'm going to redefine all your terms and ideals MY way, so that I and my tribe can take over your society and pretend that you were historically irrelevant to the whole enterprise.

(You can also substitute 'spokesperson' for 'Benji', and 'identity group' for 'tribe'.)

Anonymous Cato the Elder November 25, 2016 3:32 PM  

Ben & his gang of Neocons were always leftists. Now that they have been better exposed in this election I do agree that many of them will move left, fast. You see it with the ultimate cuck George Will who has left the GOP.

Blogger Lazarus November 25, 2016 3:33 PM  

O.T.

But what gives? Vox Popoli did not make the Washington Post list of Russian propaganda tools!

Vox is gonna have to step his game up.

Anonymous Eric the Red November 25, 2016 3:34 PM  

Benji...

Now that I'm here in your country, I'm going to redefine all your terms and ideals MY way, so that I and my tribe can take over your society and pretend that you were historically irrelevant to the whole enterprise.

(You can also substitute 'spokesperson' for 'Benji', and 'identity group' for 'tribe'.)

Blogger Elder Son November 25, 2016 3:37 PM  

When a race/culture becomes the predominate race/culture in a country not their own, that country has been conquered and is no longer its former self. - Confederation of American Indian Tribes

Anonymous kfg November 25, 2016 3:39 PM  

"The whole principle of Western civilization is that anybody can involve himself or herself in civilized values"

This. Is. SPARTA!

Welcome, Persians. The womenfolk are right over here.

Blogger Dirtnapninja November 25, 2016 3:44 PM  

So basically Jewishness is based on blood and lineage, while Western identities are not.

this of course allows non western peoples living in our lands to lay a claim all the good stuff about western civ while the bad stuff belongs to the whites alone.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 25, 2016 3:45 PM  

Jill Stein's organization is raising money to pay for recounts in three states. $3 million in one day, looks like Hillary donors to me.

The expected cost of recounts keeps increasing every time a goal is met.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 25, 2016 3:48 PM  

@81
Last year Salon Magazine called Ben Shapiro "the next Ayn Rand."

Oh, ok, has he started the hormones yet? Did he talk this over with Bruce/Caityn Jenner?

Blogger Nate November 25, 2016 3:58 PM  

"As a white person, married to a white wife, most of the total losers in my community are white. The heroin OD's are white. The loser neighbors who moved out are white. A Vox America has too many loser whites. Democrats.

If skin color is your uniform then JF Kerry and his, are yours."

This is why the notion that a white utopia will exist is dumb. Even if you were to limit power to whites... there is a huge subset of whites that would immediately give that power away to show how nice they are.

I mean lets face it... we are not in this mess because brown people did dumb things.

We are in this mess because white people did dumb things.

Blogger Nate November 25, 2016 3:59 PM  

You can't just limit power to white people. You have to limit it far more than that.

Blogger jandolin November 25, 2016 3:59 PM  

(((Benji))) should be called out on tribalism hypocrisy on the Jewish state.

Anonymous Eric the Red November 25, 2016 4:01 PM  

Hitler meme:
When somebody accuses someone else of being Hitler, the unstated agenda is that it's morally ok to assassinate that someone else as a preventative measure.

Anonymous (((Joshua))) November 25, 2016 4:01 PM  

I disavow and condemn Ben, my fellow short Jew. The drama going on at Reddit made me realize it's a great analogy for immigration. All the subreddit mods were complaining about Trump supporters ruining their forums. And how they wanted to ban them because they were taking over and alienating the older subreddit readers. It seems rules and getting to decide who belongs in your community do matter! Oh the irony.

Anonymous FP November 25, 2016 4:05 PM  

Damn your post title Vox.

Requiem for a Cuckservative Dream. Starring Benji and Glennis Beck.

-Who can debase themselves the most and prove their worth to their media paymasters? Coming to a Fake News channel near you. Check local listings.

Blogger The Kurgan November 25, 2016 4:08 PM  

How is it a slur to point out that a Jew is a Jew?
Are you upset because it makes it clearer that the Jew pretending to define Western Civilisation is a Jew and thus not actually concerned with, nor a part of, Western Civilisation at all?

Anonymous basementhomebrewer November 25, 2016 4:28 PM  

The best part of this election has been the way it exposed people like shapiro and beck. They have been straight up reporting leftist propaganda for the last year. Now they have proven that they have always been about the feelz.

Anonymous Tommy November 25, 2016 4:32 PM  

"Just as, if a non-jew residing in Israel were to advocate for an open-borders policy for Israel, merely noticing that said person was not Jewish would be an "ethnic slur." Right, Tommy?"

You make the point perfectly. Don't address the argument. Point to his ethnicity. It's done to try to distract the reader from the fact that you have no response to his argument. Why so scared?

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable November 25, 2016 4:35 PM  

You can't just limit power to white people. You have to limit it far more than that.

This. Yes. Nate.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey November 25, 2016 4:35 PM  

"This is why the notion that a white utopia will exist is dumb."

The idea that utopia is achievable in this life is purely a communist/ progressive one.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 25, 2016 4:40 PM  

So @Tommy, your brain stopped working at the second set of parens?
Vox does have an argument, he made it, and it carries. Are you too triggered to actually read and retain?

If skin color is your uniform then JF Kerry and his, are yours.

(((John Kerry))) has no ethnic relationship to me.

Blogger Nate November 25, 2016 4:40 PM  

"This. Yes. Nate."

actually you could solve the problem by requiring someone to own an acre of land in the county they are voting in.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable November 25, 2016 4:42 PM  

actually you could solve the problem by requiring someone to own an acre of land in the county they are voting in.

Or restrict the voting to people who are net contributors rather than net takers.

Blogger ZhukovG November 25, 2016 4:43 PM  

I see the usual, substandard, suspects have shown up.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir November 25, 2016 4:43 PM  

"Basically, the alt-right is a group of thinkers who believe that Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity..."

You're damn right, you Khazar fraud, and that civilization is also inseparable from Christendom. Christendom is on its way back. You can't stop it.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey November 25, 2016 4:45 PM  

Analogies r hard. For some, anyway...

Anonymous George of the Jungle November 25, 2016 4:45 PM  

Tommy wants to pretend that this is all about sweet reason. Of course, only he gets to define what reason is. It's the typical leftist technique of trying to distract us with one hand while slipping in the shiv of might-makes-right with the other hand.

What Tommy doesn't understand is that he's on the wrong blog.

Anonymous George of the Jungle November 25, 2016 4:47 PM  

Tommy wants to pretend that this is all about sweet reason. Of course, only he gets to define what reason is. It's the typical leftist technique of trying to distract us with one hand while slipping in the shiv of might-makes-right with the other hand.

What Tommy doesn't understand is that he's on the wrong blog.

Anonymous JAG November 25, 2016 4:47 PM  

Why are you guys wasting time debating this idiot?

Anonymous Ironsides November 25, 2016 4:52 PM  

Touch not ye poop, O Sons of Kek!

Blogger Nick November 25, 2016 4:56 PM  

Buy his book now! MAGA mindset is revolutionary. $9.99 right now at Amazon. You're a cuck if you don't buy it.
- Vox day

Blogger Hal Gore November 25, 2016 4:57 PM  

Ironside said
This is why the concept "traitor" exists.
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You can have them. EUnuchstan. The Clinton's. It is so funny that those with no balls are quick to throw out the word cuck.

Did you not read how faggots like you are the cuck problem?

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan November 25, 2016 4:59 PM  

"that if you put a bunch of aluminum in a small batch of molten steel... you don't have steel anymore."

Sounds familiar... reminds me of something about feet of clay and iron I read in this one book... Hmmmm

Blogger Ceasar November 25, 2016 5:00 PM  

So not only does Benji believe in magical dirt theory, he is now pushing magical parchment theory?

Blogger Hal Gore November 25, 2016 5:00 PM  

http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/01/18/the-one-about-fear-of-the-lord/


There are two types of fear that need to be defined. The two types of fear are SERVILE FEAR and FILIAL FEAR. Let’s start with SERVILE FEAR. Servile fear is the fear we must have of God because He is, well, GOD. He is all-powerful. He is all-knowing. He made you, atom by atom. He sustains you, and the entire universe. He made it, and if He decided to do it, He could snuff the whole kit-and-caboodle out of existence whenever He felt like it. The laws of physics are His to break whenever He feels like it. He is perfectly good and perfectly just. He is incomprehensible. He is pure love, pure beauty, pure truth. He is reality itself. He is infinitely powerful, infinitely strong. He knows all. He sees all. He contains all. HE. IS. GOD.

Blogger L' Aristokrato November 25, 2016 5:00 PM  

"Cuck to cuck"
Is that like "ass to ass"?

Anonymous Evstratios November 25, 2016 5:11 PM  

The fact that this is on slate is enough. You can just see lil shapiro sitting in a big shitty diaper with these troglodytic freaks. This is really rough. Pretty sure he's going to come out as a homo before the end of this term.

When you mix the colours of the rainbow, you get shit brown. Every country and nation of peoples deserves to do what they do best. Our bodies have a heart, spleen, liver, etc all working towards the whole. Earth obviously needs specialized structures to survive and advance into the future. Its when you take cells from the heart, the spleen and the liver and try and shove them in the brain while expecting a complete maintenance of high function. We generally call things similar to that action in the human body, cancer and it is exceedingly fatal to the host. Everybody knows this why is our world functioning so alien to so many people?

Thank the god emporer almighty that vaginal sponges like tammy are on their way out. Its fascinating to watch history repeat itself in real time. Good show, thanks again Vox.

Blogger Nate November 25, 2016 5:11 PM  

"Or restrict the voting to people who are net contributors rather than net takers."

well the acre of land would basicly eliminate a city's impact on elections.

And as we've learned over the last 30 years... the country is very much still divided and the division is defined by urban vs rural.

Blogger Stilicho November 25, 2016 5:12 PM  

Shapiro was amusing as a child aping adult ideas. Now that he's an adult aping adult ideas, he isn't amusing any more and is rather pathetic. Thus, the move to the left: it might breathe new life into a career that peaked at 17...

For a little while.

Anonymous Fisher November 25, 2016 5:12 PM  

Basically, the alt-right is a group of thinkers who believe that Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity—which is racist, obviously.

This is Leftist thinking, through and through. It is Leftist thinking even when removing the (also incorrect) 'racist' bit.

Western Civilization is not a thing only spun in the mind. And even if it were, different minds issue different civilizations.

More to the point, however: In conjunction with evolutionary pressures, Western Civilization is the by-product of the peoples, mores, folkways and ethno-religious affiliation(s) that invented and continue to invent it. Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity, therefore.

Alter the ethnicity, alter the civilization. This is true prima facie. It is false prima facie that this is 'racist'.

Blogger modsquad November 25, 2016 5:13 PM  

JAG wrote:Why are you guys wasting time debating this idiot?

Even military snipers need practice.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora November 25, 2016 5:13 PM  

God damn, I was physically incapable of reading that quote of Ben's past the point where he claimed it is racist to consider the European ethnicity inseparable from the culture it birthed and maintains. There's something evil about a self-professed Orthodox Jew who doesn't believe tribes have special characteristics. He doesn't even respect his own God.

Anonymous Dave November 25, 2016 5:13 PM  

Rumors of the NFL's demise may have been greatly exaggerated:

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— FOX Sports PR (@FOXSportsPR) November 25, 2016

Blogger VD November 25, 2016 5:16 PM  

And this is the real reason they shy from reasoned debate: they always lose.

First, I don't lose debates. Second, I don't shy from them. Ben Shapiro does.

Banned for lying, Tommy.

Blogger tublecane November 25, 2016 5:17 PM  

I wonder why you beat up on poor, Lil' Ben, who doesn't know better. Or rather mostly doesn't know better, because he's also a liar. Either way, he's small potatoes, is out of his league already, and will be totally underwater when Conservatism, Inc. crumbles. So why pile on? I used to ask the same thing about Scalzi, who isn't worth the trouble.

There is something about Little Ben, however. He's representative of something. Not cuckservatism itself, nor neoconservatism, nor the Old Media, nor the need for echo marks, though he does stand for all those things. To me, he's emblematic of the bipartisan Spoiled Brat Philosophy that takes different forms based on the status of the representative.

Blogger tublecane November 25, 2016 5:19 PM  

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Blogger DouglasEdward November 25, 2016 5:21 PM  

WTF is Tommy on about? Jared Taylor has openly debated tons of people, as has Vox, Brimelow has even gone into the cesspool of TYT to carry the banners.

Blogger tublecane November 25, 2016 5:22 PM  

@127-Regarding Scalzi, I meant I used to think he wasn't worth the trouble. Now I know it's useful to pick people like him in personalizing your attacks. Because why wouldn't you want your enemy to be personified by Scalzi?

Anonymous Godfrey November 25, 2016 5:24 PM  

Israel has a wall.

When are they opening their borders?


Anonymous Philipp November 25, 2016 5:24 PM  

OT: Good news from Germany.

The AfD is surging in two eastern German states. In Saxony, the AfD now has the support of 25% of the population, a 15pp increase from the 2014 state elections. In the state of Thuringia the AfD's share is over 20%.

The survey, by Infratest Dimap, produced another interesting result. The age group where the AfD is most successful is with 35-49 year-olds, of whom 31% support the AfD. Demography thus favours the AfD. These results have not yet translated into the federal level, although the AfD remains strong at 15% according to the latest poll by Insa.

For the information of those who are not up to date with German politics, the general election will take place in September 2017.

http://www.eurointelligence.com/public/briefings/2016-11-23.html?cHash=9e9c69a4e6cc34874729017ad8b60aa7

Blogger DouglasEdward November 25, 2016 5:31 PM  

Pleasing news there from Germany.

At this point the movement needs to be focused on the Freedom Party of Austria's Presidential Candidate, Nerbert Hofer in the December 2nd re-run off vs. the crypto Marxist Green party degenerates.

I have seen almost no one talking about this possibly seismic event, none of the alt-right or alt-lite figures I know are following Hofer on twitter, the meme armies have gone silent and on one seems to care.I

Blogger DouglasEdward November 25, 2016 5:32 PM  

Apologies, the re-run off is actually the 4th of December.

Anonymous tublecane November 25, 2016 5:34 PM  

@4-What's a slur? The echoes? That's an implied slur at best. You might as well say the word "Jew" itself is a slur, which admittedly it has been half-termed by political correctness. (The other half of the time the word is being used by decent folks, and they can say whatever they want because their hearts are in the right place.)

In fact, the point of the echoes is not to denigrate Jews. It can and has been used that way, butt that's not why they're so popular. The point is to identify them, because they won't do it themselves. I'd be content to drop the echoes once Jews stop using the "Hello, fellow white person" ploy.

Anonymous old man in a villa November 25, 2016 5:37 PM  

Calling it western is hemispheric. Calling it civilization is primativephobic.

Anonymous Ironsides November 25, 2016 5:41 PM  

Hal Gore wrote:Ironside said

This is why the concept "traitor" exists.

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You can have them. EUnuchstan. The Clinton's. It is so funny that those with no balls are quick to throw out the word cuck.

Did you not read how faggots like you are the cuck problem?



You come across as a possible troll, but you're so incoherent that it's difficult to even tell what side you're on. Or what you're trying to say. Perhaps you're just drunk or stoned.

DouglasEdward wrote:Pleasing news there from Germany.

At this point the movement needs to be focused on the Freedom Party of Austria's Presidential Candidate, Nerbert Hofer in the December 2nd re-run off vs. the crypto Marxist Green party degenerates.

I have seen almost no one talking about this possibly seismic event, none of the alt-right or alt-lite figures I know are following Hofer on twitter, the meme armies have gone silent and on one seems to care.I


That German news is indeed impressive, especially when one considers that they have a dictatorial blackout on protesting or condemning the invasion and will actually throw you in jail if you're verbally mean to the poor brown rapists and murderers. This is effectively the most difficult type of popular opposition: people deciding to vote against something even when nobody is allowed to discuss it and the dictators suppress mention of it as much as possible, and essentially deciding to choose the correct course independently.

Anonymous Steve November 25, 2016 5:43 PM  

Last year Salon Magazine called Ben Shapiro "the next Ayn Rand."

Atlas Cucked.

Anonymous tublecane November 25, 2016 5:45 PM  

@17-It's not the same thing. Pointing out Jewish hypocrisy on race and racism has been more effective than "Dems R the REAL racists," for whatever reason. Watch how they react to the echoes for all the proof you need. Of course, they scream "Anti-semite!" when they get a hangnail, but I think that one actually gets to them.

Why this is so is an interesting question, though I don't have the answer. Probably because no one cares about the racism of the Democrat Party, least of all Democrats. But Jews are careful to not allow anyone to notice what they're up to, because they're always a minority and live in fear of backlash from more numerous and/or better armed populations.

Anonymous tublecane November 25, 2016 5:50 PM  

@17-An underlying point to my argument that I should probably make explicit is that people don't like Jewish ethnic solidarity. That's why they're featured so heavily in conspiracy theories. That's on reason why they get pogromed so often. I can't explain it, but it's a fact.

People also don't like white ethnic solidarity, which is why "racist!" works on them, for now. They don't have an identify the Democrat Party as a white party, for obvious reasons, which is why "racist!" doesn't work on them. Maybe it would were they ever to be thought of as the Jewish Party, for whatever reason.

Anonymous tublecane November 25, 2016 5:52 PM  

@141-"People also don't like white ethnic solidarity"

Because they've been conditioned not to, I should add. That wasn't the case a few generations ago.

Anonymous Crossphased November 25, 2016 6:06 PM  

"As you may notice, this has nothing to do with the Constitution. It has nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence. It has nothing to do actually with Western civilization."

The word "actually" is his tell for lying, as the purpose of Mrs. Shapiro's whole post is to fight against Western Civilization by undermining it and obfuscating what it really is.

Our host's recommendation to read The Clash of Civilizations was aptly timed. If you haven't read it yet, it illuminates everything you are reading here, kind of like a civilizational red pill.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 25, 2016 6:06 PM  

I didn't know that (((Benji the littlest chickenhawk))) was a regular at (((Epstein's extraordinary pizza emporium))) but we really shouldn't be surprised. There's a reason Benji was with the Gay Old Pedobears apart besides the usual 'let's defend Israel to the last American' doctrine of the "conservatives".

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 25, 2016 6:07 PM  

@133
Apologies, the re-run off is actually the 4th of December.

Cool, that gives us two elections in Europe to watch on the same day.

MOAR Popcorn!

Anonymous tublecane November 25, 2016 6:10 PM  

@38-I have a book titled "A Better Guide Than Reason." That's what he needs, in my opinion.

I couldn't say how sound his reasoning is, anyway. Because I can't tell what he thinks the alt-right is. Calling them fascists and saying they'll fail because "Atlantians" don't like fascism (did Italians or Germans before they demonstrated so?) is letting words do his reasoning for him, I think.

The idea that there;s nothing to be gained by the alt-right annoying the Trump administration betrays ignorance of practical politics. The left has no such worries. Having the far right publicly attack Trump from the right gives him more room to drift to the right. Doesn't anyone else know this? That's the whole point in moving the Overton Window.

Blogger Luke (alias "Lines With Chrome") November 25, 2016 6:20 PM  

"They'd probably start speaking English immediately and driving Dodge Chargers."

The Gooks of Hazzard?

I keed, I keeeed.

Blogger Rusty Fife November 25, 2016 6:31 PM  

tublecane wrote:@38-I have a book titled "A Better Guide Than Reason." That's what he needs, in my opinion.

I couldn't say how sound his reasoning is, anyway. Because I can't tell what he thinks the alt-right is. Calling them fascists and saying they'll fail because "Atlantians" don't like fascism (did Italians or Germans before they demonstrated so?) is letting words do his reasoning for him, I think.


I could no longer remember the first half of his text, and thus could make nothing of the remainder.

No wonder anduin wrote:@32

Land's reasoning is sound tho. Certainly more sound than most of what you can read around here.


Then he couldn't give a single summary of one of the prrofound points.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner November 25, 2016 6:35 PM  

most of the total losers in my community are white. The loser neighbors who moved out are white. A Vox America has too many loser whites

1/2 of whites have IQs under 100, but 5/6 of US blacks have IQs under 100. Even poor whites wont use ambulances as free taxis. If you hate the low IQ whites just wait until you meet non unicorn non Asian minorities, they are not (((AS SEEN ON TV)))

Sorry, could not edit previous. Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality

Someone better tell the GRINDR RABBI, jews are massively over represented in the GLBT community.

Presumably, if you notice a Jew's ethnicity whilst he is donating to charity, that's cool.

How many jewish charities make the Clinton foundation appear to be a legitimate charity by contrast?

Last year Salon Magazine called Ben Shapiro "the next Ayn Rand."..Oh, ok, has he started the hormones yet?

He got infected by Zoey TUR http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/ben_shapiro_files_police_report_against_trans_woman_zoey_tur_for_her_response_to_his_deliberate_provocations/

92 We are in this mess because white people did dumb things

It was not dumb for the (((whites))) that did it. Looting western civilization for over 100 years STR8

Did you not read how faggots like you are the cuck problem?

Not All Faggots Are Like That, you need to come up with better arguments.

The Gooks of Hazzard?

I can't find the diversity dukes of hazard video with Uncle Jesse being a jew & a rainbow flag on the car.

Blogger Tom K. November 25, 2016 6:41 PM  

So Benji agrees with Twitter. That throwing Milo off was the right thing to do because…anti-semitism?

Anonymous Eric the Red November 25, 2016 6:45 PM  

The posterity of the American Revolutionaries never disappeared. They are still here today. Add-on peoples to the country who also subscribed completely to originalist tenets and hegemony therefore helped to build the Nation as originally conceived, and so became Americans. All others who kicked against the goad did not become Americans regardless of legalities. They were and are simply economic opportunists and cultural offshoots appropriators. To aid them in their greed and envy, they offer lies and deceit in order to redefine originalist intent. They hope to change things to their advantage and control. They revise history while pretending that it's unimportant. At a genetic and cultural level they are incapable of understanding what it means to be American. They do not deserve to be Americans, nor do they deserve to remain here.

Blogger Tom K. November 25, 2016 6:45 PM  

The coup de Grace!

It’s people who believe that if Israel were to take in too many people of different colors and different ethnicities and different religions, then that would necessarily involve the interior collapse of Israeli civilization.

What's good for the Goyim is good for the Jew!

Blogger Tom K. November 25, 2016 6:46 PM  

Let's all visit Dearborn in a couple years.

Or now!

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 25, 2016 6:46 PM  

Speaking of magic dirt, I guess Italy's up-and-rising pavement-apes aren't going to be morphing into Leonardo Dindunuffini's anytime soon. Wonder how long it will taken them to turn Turin into DeTroilet? What will Hi-Fellatin' Franny, the Pontifex of Pedobear say? Wonder how many times his boss (((Soros))) flew him to Epstein Island to hob-knob with the (((important people)))?

Anonymous Eric the Red November 25, 2016 6:48 PM  

The posterity of the American Revolutionaries never disappeared. They are still here today. Add-on peoples to the country who also subscribed completely to originalist tenets and hegemony therefore helped to build the Nation as originally conceived, and so became Americans. All others like Benji who kicked against the goad did not become Americans regardless of legalities. They were and are simply economic opportunists and cultural offshoots appropriators. To aid them in their greed and envy, they offer lies and deceit in order to redefine originalist intent. They hope to change things to their advantage and control. They revise history while pretending that it's unimportant. At a genetic and cultural level they are incapable of understanding what it means to be American. They do not deserve to be Americans, nor do they deserve to remain here.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable November 25, 2016 6:53 PM  

well the acre of land would basicly eliminate a city's impact on elections.

And as we've learned over the last 30 years... the country is very much still divided and the division is defined by urban vs rural.


True, Nate. I was thinking "fair", as opposed to "effective".

Still in the old paradigm I guess.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable November 25, 2016 6:58 PM  

Now I know it's useful to pick people like him in personalizing your attacks.

It's useful to have a legitimate, nonsense-scribbling, lefty target. It's useful to deal with the real world, however absurdly it manifests itself (Scalzi). If you don't, you get accused of straw-manning.

Blogger Rusty Fife November 25, 2016 7:42 PM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:Now I know it's useful to pick people like him in personalizing your attacks.

It's useful to have a legitimate, nonsense-scribbling, lefty target. It's useful to deal with the real world, however absurdly it manifests itself (Scalzi). If you don't, you get accused of straw-manning.


Didn't a wise man say something about picking a target and personalizing it?

Anonymous Eric the Red November 25, 2016 7:52 PM  

Americanist appropriators: What these people are really saying is that their numbers make them deserving of overriding original intent (“muh democracy”). Furthermore they obfuscate/lie that it's about their revisionist ideas, just ignore their might-makes-right.

Blogger Stan Hai November 25, 2016 8:18 PM  

From the article: "I’ve never seen a bad movement or a bad person, yet, given power and they become better people."

Not even immigrants, Ben?

He's talking about how the Alt-Right will never assimilate because bad people don't change when you give them power, but he thinks its racist when we say the same thing about bad people from other countries.

Blogger Weouro November 25, 2016 8:21 PM  

Western civ has nothing to do with "gods" anymore. The "gods" died with Carthage and Rome. Christ the King reigns supreme.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 25, 2016 8:33 PM  

I can't find the diversity dukes of hazard video with Uncle Jesse being a jew & a rainbow flag on the car.

Found it.

Anonymous Ken7- November 25, 2016 8:40 PM  

I want to believe in the proposition nation. I really do. It appeals to a higher set of ideals and engages one in the intellectual plane.

Unfortunately, I live in this world. It's Fallen. Sin is celebrated. And identity politics rules the world. No one cares about your logic.

What the fuck do you want me to do about it? Ignore the reality? Champion some piece of paper that isn't followed, watch as my lands are invaded and become unsafe, and uphold to some unrealistic ideal all to avoid the racist label?

What if one looks and sees the Whore of Babylon playbook in action here? Open borders + diversity + multiculturalism + babbling tongues + PC enforced lies = looks like a certain agenda.

This game is bigger than just the human world.

Would a Jew such as Ben Shapiro understand?

Blogger BC November 25, 2016 8:49 PM  

Re: Battlefront
Thanks for that. You just made my night.

Blogger tz November 25, 2016 8:50 PM  

the alt-right is a group of thinkers who believe that Western civilization is inseparable from European ethnicity—which is racist,

Western Civilization is not Northern, Southern, or Eastern, nor Down-subterranian-thonic, or Up-olympian.

Western civilization is a misnomer, it should be called EUROPEAN civilization.

China and Japan had and have very different civilizations, as had the Inca, Maya, and Aztecs. Or Babylon, maybe (((they))) should try to equate?

(This reminds me of a lack-of-argument about roads and alternate routes with libertarians where they didn't know geometry, but at least had a sense of direction, can we do a gofundme to get (((Ben))) a compass?)

Numenor (True West, from both Tolkien and Lewis in That Hideous Strength) is apparently racist.

"East is east and West is west and never the twain will meet" is racist?

A recent Molyneux call-in leads me to:
We have to ban Chess because it has black v.s. white, and White can win. Racist Chess. (I'll leave it to others to design a chess board).

The Constitution is FREAKING OPEN SOURCE. ISRAEL COULD HAVE ADOPTED IT BUT DIDN'T. ZIMBABWE COULD ADOPT IT TOMORROW. SO COULD VENEZUELA!

I know no one here would even think it would fix a single problem because the people, culture, etc. wouldn't let it.

Technically, I believe in redemption and free will, etc. so it "could work".

But that would require either a "Galt's Gultch" in the non-european countries for a century or two for the few who could accept and live under it - and the "men of mind" were a smaller minority than Armenians after the genocide.

Euroculture, and Angloculture, and non-conformist-culture are refinements that only happened here and would need to happen for constitutional limited government to work. Providence let it happen in the USA, a repeat elsewhere is unlikely.

To filter and refine even the USA would require something totalitarian as Vox has pointed out. Those who wish to expand are doing NOTHING to filter and refine, while whining about "equality". Adams said it was only suitable for a moral people, which can be taken as minimally fallen or redeemed or whatever.

Blogger tz November 25, 2016 8:58 PM  

And you need to archive.io the page where such happens. I can't find the original.

I was looking for the "David French" reference as I thought it would be a high-yield vein.

I also want to facepalm as Kris-anne Hall has explained the link between the Declaration and Constitution.

(((Ben))) should move to Israel and give all the Palestinians birthright citizenship.

Blogger BC November 25, 2016 9:38 PM  

It just never gets old

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 25, 2016 9:51 PM  

Banned for lying, Tommy.

In 2020 or whenever the quantum fuzzy AI breaks all the little 256-bit web encryption and everyone in the world gets doxxed, I look forward to testing my hypothesis that the people banned from VP are disproportionately of ethnicities that lack a bone-deep respect for the Native European guesting code.

Even when I'm enjoying a fine craft ale, as I am now, I know whose house I'm in.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2016 10:00 PM  

@1 Wyrd
Why is anyone still listening to little Benji?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilQ_31WquQ
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I never get tired of this video

[Screaming in conservative values]

Blogger overcaffeinated November 25, 2016 10:11 PM  

He's aware that Europe is West of Asia, right?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2016 10:29 PM  

@50 A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents

@31, Their cucking is valuable to the left. Look how many of them tried to get Hillary elected, either by endorsing her overtly or by spending several months trying to depress Trump voters. They made it possible for the left to say, "Look, it's not just us saying Trump is a racist, sexist war-monger; these respected conservatives are saying it too."
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Cucks are to the left as
Uncle Toms are to the plantation

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2016 10:31 PM  

@57 PAC
I don't understand how a Jew--that is to say, by definition, an unassimilated Jew--can be a cuck.
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Yeah lil benjie is more of a neo-con than a cuck, but if it triggers lil benjie in his booster seat, who am I to complain?

Blogger Lazarus November 25, 2016 10:54 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:I never get tired of this video

When is this election ever going to stop paying off? I don't know if I can take anymore.

Wait, yes I can!

Blogger Were-Puppy November 25, 2016 10:59 PM  

@148 BigGayKoranBurner

The Gooks of Hazzard?

I can't find the diversity dukes of hazard video with Uncle Jesse being a jew & a rainbow flag on the car.
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https://youtu.be/gHO1PprfmkY

Blogger Harold November 25, 2016 11:09 PM  

@61:
its fascinating that people who buy this melting pot idea can't seem to grasp that if you put a bunch of aluminum in a small batch of molten steel... you don't have steel anymore.


Bad analogy. You get steel in the first place by adding an impurity, carbon, to molten iron in the right amounts. To get stronger steels, you add other impurities in the right amounts such as manganese, nickel, chromium, molybdenum, boron, titanium, vanadium, tungsten, cobalt, and niobium. And to get stainless steel, at least 10.5% chromium. So, what type of people you add and how many makes a difference.

In a previous thread I saw someone railing against a high concentration of Persians. Persians are pretty much definitive Caucasian. Not Arab. If you threw a few of them randomly into any town you probably couldn't point them out as being different from everyone else. Persians vs. Arab is the primary Shia-Sunni dispute. Let the Persians loose, they'll come out on top.

I live now in a town with a lot of people of Italian descent. Before I moved here, I couldn't really tell you what a Roman nose was. I can now look at the people in town and before knowing their name can tell if they're Italian or not. Can't tell you what they are if they aren't Italian...

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 25, 2016 11:32 PM  

@163 tz
The Constitution is FREAKING OPEN SOURCE. ISRAEL COULD HAVE ADOPTED IT BUT DIDN'T. ZIMBABWE COULD ADOPT IT TOMORROW. SO COULD VENEZUELA!

Several Latin American countries tried to adopt the US constitution. None of them could make it work, for some reason, and wound up with a constitution better suited to their people.
It's almost as though different gene pools require different cultures and governing styles.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 26, 2016 12:00 AM  

@173 Harold

In a previous thread I saw someone railing against a high concentration of Persians. Persians are pretty much definitive Caucasian.


But not European. So far as I can tell, Persians are about as tribal as any other peoples from that part of the world. The West does not need more tribes, it needs fewer.

Side comment: It seems that some poop must always double down. Gamma is as gamma does.

Blogger GFR November 26, 2016 12:25 AM  

I've been relatively well disposed towards Shapiro since he bitch-slapped Piers Morgan, and I would still prefer to have him on our side although that seems increasingly unlikely since he left Breitbart for trivial reasons.
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If Shapiro was able to best Day I would acknowledge it - why would anybody NOT do that? The only way to improve is to compete with your betters.
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That being said I've NEVER seen Shapiro get the better of Day. If you have please provide a link.

Blogger GFR November 26, 2016 1:07 AM  

If you were trying to distract the reader from the fact that you have no response to his argument - you failed..

Blogger GFR November 26, 2016 1:38 AM  

@SciVo
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Nah, it's simpler than that. They always use rhetoric because it WORKS.
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For example this guy just said that the ALT-right always LOSES. This is demonstrably untrue - the ALT-right USUALLY wins.
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But it makes us ANGRY, which is about as close to victory as they can get in this kind of forum. The real question is WHY does it make us angry? And the answer is that it COULD be true - we could be wrong, or worse yet - that we could be RIGHT, but so lacking in ability that we couldn't prove it.
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Everybody will get beaten eventually. The only way to be invincible is to not care.

Anonymous Virtue signaling faggot November 26, 2016 2:45 AM  

@4: Yes, Vox has truly sunk to new depths by making us aware that the esteemed normie commentator may have abiding affiliations that put him at odds with the interests of the people to whom he is paid to dictate. We should not know such things. Thank you for pointing out the iniquity of Vox's ad hominem approach. We are all the wiser for your contribution.

Blogger Melampus the Seer November 26, 2016 5:03 AM  

Cuckservatives lost the first battle, the election. Now, they are allying with liberal media to shape the battles to come.

Blogger Basil Makedon November 26, 2016 6:32 AM  

More likely the liberal media is using them and they are going along for the publicity. It's a mistake, because they will never be your friends, they will always be your enemy because you do not support the communist party line. But, some lessons need to be learned the hard way.

Blogger Alec Rawls November 26, 2016 11:39 AM  

Spot on, Shapiro is asserting that only Western civilization is civilized. Of course I agree with him on that but it doesn't really support his conclusion does it?

He makes this astounding leap from non-westerners being FREE to "involve themselves" with western ideals of liberty and rationality and morality to their ACTUALLY ADOPTING those ideals. Some from each ethnic background will but the direction of society depends on what the majority chooses. So far the only race or sex to show majority allegience to western ideals is white men.

It makes sense in my opinion to let in some of those from each race who do embrace western values but that we must have an effective screening process for keeping out the rest, and we have to remember the problem of regression to the mean.

Each liberty-loving person we let in from a liberty-hating ethnic background carries with him not just a full set of genes for making a liberty loving person but also a second full set of genes that represents in expectation the liberty-hating average of his ethnic source. Pretty much everything about how a person turns out is at least 50% genetic so the unexpressed genetic half cannot be overlooked and immigration from liberty hating ethnicities must always be cautious.

Of course there are a lot of liberty hating whites too. That's the left, where a majority of white women end up. This precarious situation is what makes immigration such a high stakes game. Our country just escaped a liberty-ending Clinton regime by a whisker. The leftist strategy of using mass immigration to import a more liberty-hating electorate must be rolled back.

Blogger GFR November 26, 2016 1:05 PM  

I work with three iranian women. For the first year that I worked with them I assumed that they came from some Eastern European shithole (which, if Europe extends East as far as the Urals is sort of true). Then one lunchtime at "The Sizzler" (Iranians love the Sizzler), they explained that they had fled Iran when the Shah fell.
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The amazing thing was that in spite of being chased out of their native country by the islamists they STILL wanted iran to get nuclear weapons. When I pointed out that Israel would certainly nuke Iran if that happened they were very cross, as if they had never considered such a possibility. They apparently believed that such a thing would be a crime against humanity in spite of irans very frequent threats to destroy israel

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