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Sunday, November 20, 2016

Debt + Diversity = Community Death

A tale of white flight:
I'm devastated. My husband and I saved for 10 years to buy our dream home and since then a bunch of loud, gangster Latinos have moved into our neighborhood. They've started having late-night parties every week, drugs, scary-looking guys, etc.

We are going to lose our home's value if we don't sell asap. When we saw another gang banger party starting tonight two houses down I cried and cried. I love my my home. I wanted to grow old here. I wanted to retire here and die here. It's completely unfair.

As soon as I'm well enough,after the baby is born we have to put our beautiful home on the market. Why, why do these people have the "right" to do this to our communities?
This is the response to every cuckservative, Churchian, SJW sob story about how "unfair" it is to send home invaders who "only want a better life for themselves and their children". They don't have any right to that "better life" because it is coming at the expense of the native peoples.

It's not just the immigration. It's the low-interest loans that permit the shifting of the demand curve upward. This is why discrimination, racial or otherwise, is not only moral, it is necessary, and why anti-discrimination laws are themselves immoral, destructive, and ultimately dyscivilizational.

Every community should have the right to pass laws banning anyone they don't want in their community from being permitted to buy homes there. If people want to live in a mixed community, then let the community permit that. And if people don't, they should not be forced to do so, or have the wishes of an entire community overturned by one indifferent party who is leaving anyhow.

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Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 2:51 AM  

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Anonymous Discard November 20, 2016 2:53 AM  

It can be terrifying for a property owner to see some Dindu down the street with his pants below his ass. For once, I was glad to see a Chinese renter move in to replace him.

Anonymous Adam Cramer November 20, 2016 3:02 AM  

Rich SJWs will never have to deal with the bull that they force us to deal with every single day. If I want to live in a safe, pleasant all white neighborhood it is my right to do so. Let the vibrants move to the Hamptons and Beverly Hills. Rich liberals profess to love diversity. Let them have it because I don't want it.

Anonymous Susan November 20, 2016 3:16 AM  

Unless Trump gets rid of this particular set of regulations, HHS has instituted rules by which they can segregate any neighborhood that they deem too "white".

That means those rich SJW's are going to have to deal too. From the Hamptons/Martha's Vineyard to Beverly Hills, Section 8 housing could be coming to a gated community near you.

Just think, all those precious celebs in their secured buildings just might have a Section 8 resident someday too. Manhattan will never be the same.

Blogger Abyssus Invocat November 20, 2016 3:21 AM  

Let it happen. It accelerates the day of reckoning. When there is nowhere to flee, the fight-the real one, with shooting-will begin.

Blogger Shimshon November 20, 2016 3:29 AM  

@4 Beverly Hills does suffer from its own form of dindu infestation. It's called Persians. I graduated from BHHS in 1984. Before the Iranian Revolution in 1979, there was a small number of prosperous but highly assimilated Persians. Then the influx began. Lots of money. Zero class. By the time I graduated, it was about 20% Persian. I hear it's more like 50% today.

I agree, the dindus you are talking about would be far worse.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft November 20, 2016 3:31 AM  

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "discrimination" means decision making, or choice making, so any "anti-discrimination law" is blatantly put in place to remove your ability to make decisions.

More specifically, all "anti-discrimination" laws cater to specific groups of persons, thereby removing peoples' ability to choose anything those groups wouldn't like. It's literally slavery in the aspects that pertain to these laws.

@4. In theory, yes. In practice, someone in that kind community is bribing someone somewhere, or otherwise has their hand shoved up the rectum of this system (like a puppet), so specific neighborhoods will magically never have to deal with this, and they'll be the same neighborhoods full of people forcing their shit down everyone else's throats.

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 20, 2016 3:41 AM  

@4 It brings up an interesting idea. To the extent Trump can't or won't deport the problem, the Feds could at least create incentives to isolate the problem in blue states. It neuters the vote of the undesirables while forcing libs to absorb most of the costs.

Anonymous Walter Oleg November 20, 2016 3:53 AM  

"Every community should have the right to pass laws banning anyone they don't want in their community from being permitted to buy homes there. If people want to live in a mixed community, then let the community permit that. And if people don't, they should not be forced to do so, or have the wishes of an entire community overturned by one indifferent party who is leaving anyhow." (VD)

This is the human rights issue of our time. I believe freedom of association/community to be one of the major policy proposals that the Alt-Right should push. Because even if we get a moratorium on immigration, diversity is still because pushed into every community.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT November 20, 2016 4:03 AM  

But if she moves how is she going to get authentic Mexican food?

Blogger Kona Commuter November 20, 2016 4:14 AM  

Regarding Hillary

Wow - just when you think it couldn't possibly be any more F***ed up (Came across this link in the comments section of another blog) Warning - this is messed up

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/46/1479562504-27e63b3e55585f15a493da9f7f20e3b8e5647fb515a54202657f6b90b96a9c5a.png

Blogger weka November 20, 2016 4:16 AM  

@10. Two answers
1. From the legal middle class Anglicized Hispanics. I think that is called Tex-Mex after the Tejecans.
2. Who cares?

Vibrancy is not our strength.

Blogger MATT November 20, 2016 4:54 AM  

Don't need tacos. I'm fine with potatoes and ketchup.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 6:16 AM  

In the Bible, immigration is unlimited, BUT... immigrants don't get to own land. They don't get to vote or hold office. And they have to obey all the laws of the land.

Look at the Philippines. Why did Duterte so boldly invite immigrants to come to the Philippines "until it is brimming with them"? The Philippines has strong laws about property ownership. Citizenship is hard to get, and ONLY citizens can vote or own land or hold office. In this matter, the Philippines is more Biblical than the West, and that gives it the ability to be humane and compassionate to refugees.

Also, Duterte knew that the immigrants really aren't interested in moving to the Philippines, despite the tropical beaches, coconuts, and beautiful land and friendly people. ;)

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 6:18 AM  

I propose that the only answer to the "immigration problem" is to limit land ownership (and later on, citizenship rights such as voting and holding office) to the third generation of those from friendly countries, and the 10th generation of those from hostile countries. Just like Scripture says.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 6:23 AM  

@11 Also, HOLY SMOKES, Hillary has Kuru? Podesta has a cannibal thing going on, but Hillary? Wow.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 20, 2016 6:33 AM  

The flowers of the Democratic party, lovely. Same party that boasts of its sophistication, sure, drug parties for the low IQ set. I will also bet these dirt bags have never heard of the Broadway play "Hamilton."

Blogger Salt November 20, 2016 6:49 AM  

Bobby Farr wrote:isolate the problem in blue states.

Blue counties which, after all, are often the reason a State is blue to begin with.

Blogger Balázs Varga November 20, 2016 6:54 AM  

MycroftJones wrote:@11 Also, HOLY SMOKES, Hillary has Kuru? Podesta has a cannibal thing going on, but Hillary? Wow.

I would just think she is old and senile. Parkinsons and her just being ill and old is much more believable.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 20, 2016 7:02 AM  

In a Ben Stiller movie a Mexican character answered the question, What would 25 million dollars buy you? With the answer, White neighbors. So there is your bribery minimum in the Era of Obama

Anonymous TheBoom November 20, 2016 7:03 AM  

Before the election, I would have said "good" to her predicament. I'm tired of whites moving to white neighborhoods, using race as a screener for their children’s schools, and socializing with whites only to have them mouth the joys of diversity and condemn any race realism as racism. Now, that Trump won I’m a little more generous.

Living in Mexico was a real eye opener for me in terms of my vision of what the future of the US would be like as Mexico Norte. I lost all respect for Mexican culture living there.

Forget that idea that you are supposed to be a responsible neighbor or citizen. Outside of their families and childhood friends, Mexicans have next to no consideration for how their actions impact others whether, neighbors, pedestrians, coworkers, or customers. Mexicans don’t trust each other and, if you watch closely, don’t even like each other outside, once again, their inner circle. The only people I find to think living in Mexico was great were expats, especially leftist women, and affluent Mexicans.

There is little in the way of striving for excellence in the society, which can be seen by the sloppy workmanship, lack of STEM success, horrible schools with A’s guaranteed at top universities, poor customer service and dreadful economy. As one Mexican doctor I got to know used to lament, “Mexico has a culture of mediocrity.” Yes, it does and the leftist fools are celebrating the idea of becoming a largely Latin country.


Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 7:37 AM  

There's another - personal freedom - aspect to this, though: Does a white homeowner not have the freedom to dispense with his property as he wishes? Then, too, we may run into another version of ex post factoism by imposing on him a zoning ordnance without grandfathering it.

However, from a more practical point of view, forced or facilitated desegregation simply hasn't worked, except in almost vanishingly rare cases. Prosperous upscale blacks move someplace white looking for a kind of life. Instead, they get only the address - an address rapidly losing value over what they paid for it - while the life they sought disappears from around them, being replaced with exactly what they fled, liberalism and its prime product, feral black teenagers. Hence, it's not clear they'd lose much, if anything.

On the other, other hand, though, not being able to flee the results of liberalism might just make them reject liberalism and fix their community problems, rather than fruitlessly trying to flee them. Might. People's capacity for self-deception is vast.

But we'd still have to deal with the first problem, to rephrase, "Sorry, white homeowner, but you don't own your property to dispense with as you please; rather, we're going to simply steal from you a key incident of property ownership without compensating you in the slightest." Anyone have any problems with this?

Anonymous Carbon blob November 20, 2016 7:38 AM  

House prices didn't used to be 3-4x one's annual salary. One has to wonder how much of this is due to an increasing premium on having desirable neighbors.

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 20, 2016 7:41 AM  

@23 A lot. My rent in Tokyo is less than places like Knoxville, Omaha, etc. because you don't need to pay a segregation premium here.

Blogger James November 20, 2016 7:42 AM  

If i'm not mistaken, there is a war of words taking place in Baltimore County vs. Baltimore City. Baltimore County is entirely Blue and Libtard and DO NOT want vibrancy anywhere near their White enclave but Baltimore City vibrancy wants into their enclave. Its Libtards versus Vibrants.

Blogger Shimshon November 20, 2016 7:44 AM  

Speaking of Hillary, besides looking like she aged a decade, practically every picture of her from her post-election appearance at the Children's Defense display unaligned eyes. Her illness, and its extent, will be revealed soon enough. What can't possibly happen soon enough is the arrest of both Podesta brothers.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 7:44 AM  

@22 Does a white homeowner not have the freedom to dispense with his property as he wishes?

Tom, according to Scripture, real property (land) is NOT yours to do as you wish with. It is an asset you hold in trust for future generations that come from your loins. Treating land like property, is the same as treating women like prostitutes.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 7:46 AM  

@22 to continue my last comment: the person (of any race) who treats land as a salable asset is like Esau selling his inheritance for a pot of lentils. East Indians understand this; they are buying up land in Canada like crazy, and they have a ratchet effect going on; they never sell except for top dollar to buy even more land. And they pester white home owners non-stop to sell their homes, at market rate.

Anonymous Forgotmyscreenname November 20, 2016 7:47 AM  

"Every community should have the right to pass laws banning anyone they don't want in their community from being permitted to buy homes there."

Jews already have a form of that. It's called Israel.

Blogger Shimshon November 20, 2016 7:48 AM  

@22 Tom, young me used to laugh and tsk-tsk at restrictive covenants, but I need to reconsider that stance.

Blogger VD November 20, 2016 7:48 AM  

But we'd still have to deal with the first problem, to rephrase, "Sorry, white homeowner, but you don't own your property to dispense with as you please; rather, we're going to simply steal from you a key incident of property ownership without compensating you in the slightest." Anyone have any problems with this?

Nope. Not any longer. The price of that economic freedom is too high. Besides, that ship sailed with his property taxes anyhow.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 7:51 AM  

A Chinese businessmen clued me in. In Canada, the banks have special loan departments for East Indians. They extend credit to East Indians who wouldn't be credit worthy under the rules they apply to whites (and Chinese). Here in Canada, Chinese are finding that they are getting the same end of the stick as white people.

Blogger Shimshon November 20, 2016 7:52 AM  

Don't let this happen to you.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/220562

11-year-old Oklahoma girl finds criminal in closet

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 7:55 AM  

An interesting approach, Mycroft, but not one I find much support in our law for. Indeed, free alienation of property is one of the bedrocks of our legal system. Moreover, neither am I very sanguine about being able to make such a rule stick.

Lemme tell ya a story, true story, as it happens. Way in the dim mists of antiquity, the Babylonians had something remarkably similar to the GI bill. This is to say that a soldier, following his (10 year, IIRC) term of service was granted, in fee simple, a plot of what had been state land sufficient to raise a family on, and perhaps even with some luxuries. It wasn't just gratitude; the state had need for sons to take their fathers' places in the army.

However, in the course of excavating, archeologists kept coming upon record after record of adoption paperwork (tiles, of course) where rich man X would be adopted by former soldier a, b, c, d, e, etc., becoming their sole heir. In gratitude for the honor of being adopted, said rich man would give a sum of money, which just happened to be exactly the value of the land in question.

Short version: a) That was some excellent lawyering. b) You cannot beat lawyers with laws.

By the way, have you considered the possible scriptural difference between a farm and a single family detached house in Whiteyville, USA?

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:00 AM  

Property taxes aren't quite the same as restrictions on alienation, though. Taxes, after all, there have always been or, at least, as far back as we can see.

I'd suggest a somewhat different, less tyrannical, and more democratic approach, voluntary restrictive covenants and buying out anyone who didn't want to sign onto them. The motivation could be as much economic as social or segregationist since, in fact, people _do_ pay a premium for de facto segregation and the property values might well rise.

Otherwise, though, you do have a problem with it, which is that it might be harder than hell, ranging up to impossible, to bring about.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:02 AM  

Oh, addendum to the above; that Babylonian land was granted with the restriction that it never be sold but be passed on to the heirs in accordance with their laws of inheritance.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 8:02 AM  

@34 Hi Tom. I have thought of the difference between a farm and a single family detached house. Scripture distinguishes city housing from other land. City housing is redeemable for up to a year, then is permanently alienated.

What you describe as a Babylonian scheme sounds like how the Romans did it. Any Empire already has a perverted relationship with land, because it is trying to cram many nations into one nation. When land is divided up along tribal, clan, and family lines, the type of perversion you described doesn't happen. Among the Irish clans for instance, five acre plots were allocated to men based on seniority. Then the man could marry and raise children. This way the Irish kept themselves at full capacity. Even the Mosaic law had a provision for allocating land as it was needed. In the Philippines there is an 8 hectare limit on ownership of land; this is Scriptural. Land that you couldn't use, wasn't allocated to you. Once it was allocated, it was for your children to inherit.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 8:03 AM  

@34 back to city housing. Scripture specifies "walled cities". Single family detached sounds like the suburbs, which in the Bible were included in land that is not alienable.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:04 AM  

Okay, the really short version: expansive Jewish law based in scripture moves me not in the slightest.

Anonymous DissidentRight November 20, 2016 8:05 AM  

@22 There's another - personal freedom - aspect to this, though: Does a white homeowner not have the freedom to dispense with his property as he wishes?

That applies just as well to free trade as it does to homes. Shouldn’t a white property owner have the right to fill his rental properties with Pakistanis…from Pakistan? Shouldn’t a white property owner have the right to fire all his American employees and replace them with Pakistanis…from Pakistan?

In America, the consequence of this sort of freedom is going to be war. At least from the perspective of the people being mass-deported.

To be fair, national libertarianism with strict border regulations seems like it would fix most of these problems…but for national libertarianism you need a county that closer resembles a nation. On the other hand, what is national border if not scaled up zoning laws? What is legal segregation if not a de facto national border?

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 8:07 AM  

Strata councils in Canada already segregate effectively; the council votes whether to accept a potential buyer. This can really screw you over when you own a townhouse or condo, and they refuse all potential buyers. There are many Chinese and East Indian buildings that maintain segregation this way. We can't segregate from them, but they definitely segregate from us.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:07 AM  

It does apply similarly, yes. But you probably can't expect to be taken with a straight face by claiming, "We're taking these rights away from you because were Libertarians."

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:08 AM  

we're

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 8:14 AM  

@39 I ask you not to accept it because it is Jewish (or Biblical) law, but because it is effective.

In the Babylonian case, they were trying to create yeoman farmer/warriors ex nihilo. The Babylonians were trying to reconstitute something that they had already destroyed by the very nature and structure of Empire.

Yeoman warriors are the backbone of a nation; but yeomen require context. Tribe. Clan. Family connection.

You can't create a standing army, then dump a man onto some random plot of land afterward. That isn't how a yeoman is made. The way that works, whether in the Bible, or in other functional societies, is that land is divided along tribal, clan and family boundaries. And, unless the family is wiped out, land stays in the family. Unless the clan is wiped out, land stays within the clan. Unless the tribe is wiped out, land stays within the tribe. So, if some bankster from another tribe comes along and says "adopt me", very well... he has to give up land he owns that belongs to other tribes/clans and families. You can't belong to multiples.

A lot of European conflict was due to this mixing of land titles. The Germans never should have tried to assimilate the Sorbs.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:15 AM  

Hmmmm...an even easier way: Neighborhood right of first refusal. Homeowner H, puts house on market for X. He settles for Y. Local neighborhood has automatic right to buy for Y + 1 dollars, and can then sell it to whomever they want.

Anonymous Laz November 20, 2016 8:15 AM  

@24. Bobby Farr "My rent in Tokyo is less than places like Knoxville, Omaha, etc. because you don't need to pay a segregation premium here."

Ha! No way. My brother pays $420/month for 855sf in a decent neighborhood in west Knoxville.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 8:15 AM  

Also, standing armies are antithetical to yeoman/militia type systems. Unless you do it according to the 2 year compulsory service model or something similar. A yeoman fights because he has a home to defend, and to go back to. A landless soldier... what is he fighting for?

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:17 AM  

What part of "expansive Jewish law based on scripture moves me not in the slightest" are you having trouble with?

To quote somebody or other, hereabouts, that's their law and "I don't care."

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:20 AM  

You don't really have much of a feel for professional soldiers, do you? Here's a clue or two: quite a large number of landowning Britannic Celts under Boudicca got stomped like narcs at a biker rally by 10-12000 landless Roman professionals. Gaul was conquered, and land holding Gauls butchered, routinely, by landless Roman professionals.

Anonymous lab guy November 20, 2016 8:22 AM  

Look, science!

Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973

Anonymous Laz November 20, 2016 8:26 AM  

@ Tom "Hmmmm...an even easier way: Neighborhood right of first refusal. Homeowner H, puts house on market for X. He settles for Y. Local neighborhood has automatic right to buy for Y + 1 dollars, and can then sell it to whomever they want."

It would be a nice idea if most HOA's weren't run by busy bodies who flaunt their own rules.

Anonymous Godfrey November 20, 2016 8:27 AM  

Open borders for you.

Gated communities for the crony wealth Globalists.

Blogger Chris Mallory November 20, 2016 8:28 AM  

This never used to be a problem, until that spawn of Germany, Emanuel Celler and his Northeastern yankee minions worked their vile magic in the 1960's. Nothing good has come out of Germany or the Northeast in centuries.

Blogger Unknown November 20, 2016 8:30 AM  


Every community should have the right to pass laws banning anyone they don't want in their community from being permitted to buy homes there


But only if you're white. Everyone knows whites have never respected such laws when made by anyone else. Incoherent econospastic propheteering.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) November 20, 2016 8:36 AM  

23. Carbon blob November 20, 2016 7:38 AM
House prices didn't used to be 3-4x one's annual salary. One has to wonder how much of this is due to an increasing premium on having desirable neighbors.



a - without the easy credit + gov subsidies, these prices couldn't be supported generally no matter the reason

b - areas without productive activity ( see: Detroit ) can't support any reasonable housing price at all

Anonymous the management November 20, 2016 8:44 AM  

Tom Kratman wrote:However, in the course of excavating, archeologists kept coming upon record after record of adoption paperwork (tiles, of course) where rich man X would be adopted by former soldier a, b, c, d, e, etc., becoming their sole heir. In gratitude for the honor of being adopted, said rich man would give a sum of money, which just happened to be exactly the value of the land in question.

Short version: a) That was some excellent lawyering. b) You cannot beat lawyers with laws.


Ha ha! Thanks for the story, my cynicism was running dangerously low, but now it's topped off. Perspective is a great thing.

Anonymous Godfrey November 20, 2016 8:47 AM  

Israel has a wall.

Anonymous Godfrey November 20, 2016 8:49 AM  

Open borders for you.

Gated communities for the crony wealth Globalists.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 20, 2016 8:52 AM  

How many of the vibrant moving in are actually buying homes vs renting?

Some of that could be solved by a neighborhood covenant prohibiting owners from renting out their homes.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 9:00 AM  

@49 I'm not knocking the battle effectiveness of trained professional soldiers. DNA shows the Romans didn't leave much impact on Britain. The professional soldiers won the war, but they didn't stick around. True, Rome lost battles to Pyrrhus of Epirus, using a 6 year conscription period, and limiting military service to landowners. But it won the war; Pyrrhus had to go home. Land allocation and the Imperial army came later.

I don't know how the Iceni (Boudica) land and military system operated compared to the Irish system referenced earlier.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:05 AM  

It doesn't really matter how they worked as there's a broader principle operating. Landholding citizen-soldiers can beat professionals (Rome v. Epirus or Carthage, Revolutionary and Napoleonic France v. everybody). Professionals can beat landholding citizen-soldiers (similarly common examples, some already given). This is because war has only principles and no rules. You cannot infer even a principle, though, from conflicting evidence and history.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:05 AM  

"Some of that could be solved by a neighborhood covenant prohibiting owners from renting out their homes."

That's one of the more impressive political non-starters I think I've ever seen.

Blogger sayingthetruthisofensive November 20, 2016 9:07 AM  

"Every community should have the right to pass laws banning anyone they don't want in their community from being permitted to buy homes there. If people want to live in a mixed community, then let the community permit that. And if people don't, they should not be forced to do so, or have the wishes of an entire community overturned by one indifferent party who is leaving anyhow."

If community = country, then yes.

If community = neighborhood, then no.

Let all these people that are so enamored with diversity have a taste of it.

Some years ago, if you asked the writer of this letter if she supported diversity, she would have answered that "of course!" and would have started to signal virtue like crazy. If you disagreed, she would have labelled as worst than Hitler. She would have adopted a "holier-than-thou" attitude.

Now, she knows what diversity really is so she will be open to rational arguments.

The left wants to have diversity but Not In My Backyard. So it is "diversity for thee but not for me". Let them taste their own dog food and see if they remain in their "holier-than-thou" attitude.

It is not a coincidence that the European countries that have more immigration are the most favorable ones to restriction of immigration.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 20, 2016 9:09 AM  

That's one of the more impressive political non-starters I think I've ever seen.

How so?

Lots of communities and HOAs have started banning air bnb and similar sort term rentals.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 9:10 AM  

@61 the broader principle I was looking at, was not that yeoman soldiers are superior soldiers. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. But yeoman soldiers are superior for a stable and strong society. A society that isn't multicultural or Imperial or equalitarian, that is.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 20, 2016 9:10 AM  

Communities put restrictions on land use all the time. When I bought my house you could put a mill, a slaughterhouse, a tanner's yard or a junk collector's yard next door. Later the city voted to end that.

Nobody felt bad because they couldn't put in another shake mill.

Not arguing the larger point just that the state puts new limits on land all the time.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 9:12 AM  

Law of the kinsman redeemer: sell to who you want. But your neighbors have right of first refusal, and can even "take over" a sale within a year of it being made. Similar to rental; if you rent out to someone they don't like, they can find their own renter and kick the offensive renter out.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:17 AM  

Unless they lose the war, Mycroft.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:18 AM  

Because it's going past minor exceptions with no really strong objections to major objections from a lot more people.

Anonymous Marvin Boggs November 20, 2016 9:20 AM  

I find myself in a similar position. I love the neighbourhood in which I live. I really like my apartment building. But in the 10 years I've lived here, the quality of my neighbours, both in my building and the surrounding buildings, has greatly decreased. Last night as I was headed out to the opera (Falstaff), I had to pass a cordon of unpleasant young men in my building. First time I've felt unsafe in my building.

Today I start prepping to move.

Rats.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:20 AM  

Let me backtrack a little bit, Josh, or, rather, explain better. Yes, if you can get the neighborhood covenant, there's little or no problem at all. It's getting the covenant. In places where you could get it, it probably wouldn't be needed. In places where you need it, you would probably never get it. That help any?

Blogger pyrrhus November 20, 2016 9:23 AM  

"Lots of communities and HOAs have started banning air bnb and similar sort term rentals."
Practically all HOAs and Condo associations have banned them. Ours has banned short term rentals for 20 years.

Anonymous RC November 20, 2016 9:23 AM  

I like Kratman's idea of right of first refusal. This provides for neighborhood control but still provides the seller the ability to attain market price.

As it happens I'm living this precise situation at present with a lake house located on a peninsula purchased by a religious denomination a hundred years ago. Its primary purpose is a kid's camp and the adjacent 100 plats were intended to be used for retired pastors. Until very recently one had to affirm in writing to being a Christian to purchase land or a house, but that went by the wayside via threatened lawsuit.

Some have now sold to wild party animals and the camp is rightly concerned that their campers will be exposed to lewd acts or worse. It's a dilemma as retired pastors can't generally pay market value and yet to sell at market adds additional liability risks to the camp.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 20, 2016 9:24 AM  

In places where you could get it, it probably wouldn't be needed. In places where you need it, you would probably never get it. That help any?

Absolutely.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:25 AM  

"Rats."

Rats, indeed, and in more senses than one, and more parties to the rat-fest, too.

The big problem, to my mind, with the continuous migration of people fleeing liberalism and ferals isn't property values or even safety; it's that our social cohesion breaks down more or less completely. Nobody knows anybody; nobody cares about the neighbors, nobody trusts anybody because nobody can.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 20, 2016 9:26 AM  

The big problem, to my mind, with the continuous migration of people fleeing liberalism and ferals isn't property values or even safety; it's that our social cohesion breaks down more or less completely. Nobody knows anybody; nobody cares about the neighbors, nobody trusts anybody because nobody can.

Yup

Blogger Artisanal Toad November 20, 2016 9:28 AM  

Back in the twentieth century I lived in a nice place that was becoming infested with diversity. One of their favorite tactics was loud public spectacles that annoyed and intimidated the neighborhood. The neighborhood discovered that police did not see the need to respond to noise complaints, especially those involving diversity. Police had more important matters to deal with, such as "real crime" and donuts.

Interestingly, the problem with the lack of police response resulted from the description of the noise because some noise complaints bring an immediate and overwhelming police response. I was unaware of that and decided to engage in a little pest control. There is a pest control product, now difficult to obtain, called bird bombs. With a range of some 200 feet they can be deployed from concealment and the noise of the public spectacle covers the sounds of launch.

Bird bombs are nothing more than a large firecracker that are launched from a 12 gauge shotgun.

To untrained individuals the explosions apparently sounded like gunshots, which generated a completely new type of noise complaint from the neighbors. I was unaware of the "gunshots fired" noise complaints being called in while I was engaged in pest control (the intended use of bird bombs). One bird bomb exploded while police were approaching and they heard it. I suppose that inside their squadcar they could be forgiven for thinking it was a gunshot. The spectacle that followed was entertaining, with lots of flashing lights, screaming and multiple arrests.

That was what I refer to as an educational experience. The neighborhood was peaceful for months. The next time a public spectacle took place at that location the vibrancy was much subdued until later in the evening. Once the noise level was high enough to safely engage in pest control, all it took was two bird bombs and they thought they were under attack. They returned fire on the location where the bird bombs exploded. Now there were real gunshots. The police arrived while the guns were still smoking. There were even more flashing lights this time, as well as a helicopter overhead. More arguing and screaming. More arrests and after a search warrant was procured it was discovered the home contained some amount of illegal drugs.

The home was seized using asset forfeiture laws, ending the diversity problem. The home was still empty several years later when I moved away.

Anonymous Bz November 20, 2016 9:39 AM  

But you probably can't expect to be taken with a straight face by claiming, "We're taking these rights away from you because were Libertarians."

Are they positive rights, like the human right nr 25 (right to adequate living standards) or nr 23 (right to desirable work and joining a trade union)? Or nr 14 (right to asylum in other countries from persecution). There are plenty more. Well, in that case, someone libertarian might easily take them away.

Actually, modern "libertarianism" appears to be turning into liberalism + weed. Those people probably haven't met a right they didn't like.

Anonymous Bz November 20, 2016 9:41 AM  

Implicit in the above is also the immense ongoing destruction of asset values due to government activism. But those houses just belonged to whites so why worry?

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:46 AM  

Would that matter to the question of whether they'd be taken seriously?

Blogger Nate November 20, 2016 10:00 AM  

"November 20, 2016 9:18 AM
Because it's going past minor exceptions with no really strong objections to major objections from a lot more people."

Tom,
My neighborhood is getting together to look at recreating the HOA that hasn't been needed for decades for the the sole purpose of banning rental properties.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 10:06 AM  

Will you require unanimity, Nate? Are there people who are making a buck off of rentals? If both, expect a fight and probably failure.

Anonymous Mark Auld November 20, 2016 10:18 AM  

This idea needs real discussion. Start with sanc.cities and expand outward.Start the reality check for all Dems.

Anonymous Avalanche November 20, 2016 10:23 AM  

@4 "Just think, all those precious celebs in their secured buildings just might have a Section 8 resident someday too."

My my, you ARE naive, aren't you!? The "too-White" communities the obamination and his folks are attacking are ALLLLLLL poor and middle-class!

"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me."

Blogger pyrrhus November 20, 2016 10:24 AM  

@77 When you buy a house and join an HOA, you waive your right to do what you want, and agree to comply with existing restrictions and any new restrictions imposed by your HOA Board. It's a contract. Even libertarians can understand that.....

Blogger pyrrhus November 20, 2016 10:26 AM  

"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me."
"They have more money." And a LOT more political clout....

Blogger Cy Tru November 20, 2016 10:30 AM  

I believe the term is called "Caga Palos" Spanish: "shit on stick" for the gangster hoodlums. "Shitting the sick" is a desirable trait for the young latino hoodlum(s) to gain acceptance in their inner cohort. A "stick shitter" is equivalent to a funny man or class ass clown, but only with more of a criminal edge.

Anonymous Basket of Deplorables November 20, 2016 10:46 AM  

While I can appreciate the original quoted's emotions, there is no where to run to that it can't or won't follow. She should certainly explore moving, but in the meanwhile she should utilize the full spectrum of measures to make the invaders lives uncomfortable. Utilize noise ordinances, reports of speeding, documenting everything, even just a recorded home security camera on the neighbors to record comings and goings, everything within the law should be easily on the table to defend hearth and home. And if that is not effective...

Anonymous Avalanche November 20, 2016 10:47 AM  

@22 "not being able to flee the results of liberalism might just make [middle-class blacks] reject liberalism and fix their community problems"

(If this were possible, then why has it NOT happened; lo, these past 60-70-80 years?) They've been foisting the whole problem and its non-existent fix onto Whites! Middle- and upper-class blacks KNOW there is no "fix" for "their communities" -- just like the so-called "moderate" moslems do absolutely NOTHING to try to stop their own "radicals."

I'm sure you've heard the (maybe-not-so-)old saw:

Radical moslems want to cut your head off and rape your wife. Moderate moslems want *their radicals* to cut your head off and rape your wife.

Anonymous VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go 'Hmm'” November 20, 2016 10:53 AM  

@Bobby Farr November 20, 2016 3:41 AM
@4 It brings up an interesting idea. To the extent Trump can't or won't deport the problem, the Feds could at least create incentives to isolate the problem in blue states. It neuters the vote of the undesirables while forcing libs to absorb most of the costs.

Until the libs move to your state and city and vote for the same policies, thus increasing their voting power by retaining the states that are already blue. Or did you mentally presuppose we would build 20 foot walls between us and California and shoot anyone attempting to escape CA once it's Mexico Norte?

Even then, we're giving up primo real estate--if you've never been to San Diego, you have no idea why we should fight to get it back. That real estate belonged to the gringos and they should fight to get it back. Take it from the Chief--don't let the visitors outnumber the home team or you have to hit the trail when they vote you out.

Blogger tz November 20, 2016 11:21 AM  

The Military says it wants to stay "inclusive"

If one place should be left alone it is the military, we'll see what Trump does.

Blogger pdwalker November 20, 2016 11:27 AM  

@75, that was one heck of an uplifting story.

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 20, 2016 11:39 AM  

Thanks. That was very interesting.

Reminded me of the miriad of ways that were developed to get around the Sabath restrictions in ancient Israel.

Blogger Unknown November 20, 2016 11:44 AM  

@90
Of course a bunch of perfume princes would say that. They are not the right people to ask.
Ask a few retired senior NCOs the same question, and you would get a totally different answer.

Anonymous NIGS>N.A.P. November 20, 2016 11:47 AM  

But we'd still have to deal with the first problem, to rephrase, "Sorry, white homeowner, but you don't own your property to dispense with as you please; rather, we're going to simply steal from you a key incident of property ownership without compensating you in the slightest." Anyone have any problems with this? -Tom Kratman

This is trivially easy to address. Restrictive covenants took care of the problem so effectively that they were commonplace across America. Overturn the prohibition on them, and presto: Problem Solved!

From the linked article:

"The practice of private, racially restrictive covenants evolved as a reaction to the Great Migration of Southern blacks and in response to the 1917 Court ruling (see Buchanan v. Warley) which declared municipally mandated racial zoning unconstitutional. Buchanan dealt only with legal statutes, thus leaving the door open for private agreements, such as restrictive covenants, to continue to perpetuate residential segregation.

A typical covenant included the following:

“…hereafter no part of said property or any portion thereof shall be…occupied by ay person not of the Caucasian race, it being intended hereby to restrict the use of said property…against occupancy as owners or tenants of any portion of said property for resident or other purposes by people of the Negro or Mongolian race.”

The practice of using racial covenants became so socially acceptable that in “1937 a leading magazine of nationwide circulation awarded 10 communities a ‘shield of honor’ for an umbrella of restrictions against the ‘wrong kind of people’.1 The practice was so widespread that by 1940, 80% of property in Chicago and Los Angeles carried restrictive covenants barring black families.2


Simply put, you have to agree to the covenant, i.e. no sales to undesirable muds; or you can't enter the community. This makes your butt chafe? Welp, its a big country. Go build your own community (you know, like the white folk did? Clear the land out of the wilderness and build shit there. Sounds like a lot of work, doesn't it? Easier to just push the nice, good-natured whites out of what their ancestors built and take it for yourself, right?). It worked like a charm, and kept America great until (((someone))) decided to subvert all those damn white Christians being able to keep feral savages away from their children.

Bear in mind this is from uberprogressive fucking Boston*...


Suzy: Tawmy, those niggas keep harrassing our little Janey! Tawmy, you gotta DO something!!!

Tawmy: I gotta plan baby, me an Patty are gonna have a little talk with the rest of the neighborhood men Saturday night down at the pub….

And thus America was kept great a little while longer...


*And yes, obviously all of the US was much less pozzed at the time. However, it's still funny to rub their noses in how based their forebears were compared to their current GRIDS affliction.

Anonymous BGKB November 20, 2016 11:54 AM  

But where will white kids get their drugs if non Asian minorities are not allowed to move in?

That means those rich SJW's are going to have to deal too. From the Hamptons/Martha's Vineyard to Beverly Hills

I read somewhere that jewish landlords will offer didndus piles of cash to move out of rent controlled apartments.

11 Warning - this is messed up You must have missed the discussion about spirit cooking after WikiLeaks reveled it.

The only people I find to think living in Mexico was great were expats, especially leftist women, and affluent Mexicans

Didn't Fred Reed move down there for the age of consent of 12yo? Wasn't his biggest complaint that he couldn't drive an ice cream van around because it would melt?

What can't possibly happen soon enough is the arrest of both Podesta brothers Has to be after Obama leaves.

Shimshon 11-year-old Oklahoma girl finds criminal in closet

First conservatives couldn't keep men out of little girls bathrooms, but now they fail at closets also.

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 20, 2016 12:02 PM  

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Anonymous Bellator Mortalis November 20, 2016 12:05 PM  

Artisanal Toad wrote:...bird bombs...

Yes. Tactics similar to this are needed to drive out undesirables. Drone mounted pepper spray would be fun especially at night when the drone is invisible.

Blogger Noah B aka Carlos Danger Close November 20, 2016 12:07 PM  

I would oppose giving this kind of power to local governments in the US because 1) I don't think it's necessary and 2) I believe it's likely that this degree of power would be seriously abused.

Allowing individuals to make these choices and getting the government out of it as much as possible is, I believe, ultimately the best path. Suppose I own a home in a peaceful, homogeneous neighborhood, and I'm approached by a vibrant buyer who doesn't strike me as a person who will make a positive addition to that community. Out of respect for my neighbors, that's not someone I'm going to want to sell to. Current federal law says I can't make those kinds of decisions.

Now maybe just leaving these decisions up to the individual doesn't go far enough, but I'd like to see this approach tried before we start granting new powers to the government. In Europe, where I get the impression that people identify more with the city they live in than the nation they inhabit, things may be completely different and letting cities decide who is allowed to live there may be a much workable approach.

Anonymous Avalanche November 20, 2016 12:09 PM  

@59 "How many of the vibrant moving in are actually buying homes vs renting?
Some of that could be solved by a neighborhood covenant prohibiting owners from renting out their homes."

Yeah, my neighborhood is just fighting this battle. Most of us THOUGHT it was already in the covenants; oops.

I think the thing that got most of us (nearly all White, 164-house subdiv) willing to pay for the lawyers needed to get a 'rental limit (10%, we're going for; the currently rented houses are necessarily grandfathered...) into the covenants was the black family (nice middle-class folks actually {eye roll}) moved in, then rented their first floor to a young black "family" (married kids, just had their first baby). (I only know these details because the young man came over asking if I would board his DOG WITH FLEAS while he had a company in to kill them in the basement.) (!!) Uh. No. (I did send him off to a groomer to ask how he should handle it. Sometimes, I a NICE White lady...)

This was shortly after a "consortium" (in Chicago!? And we're an hour N of Atlanta?!) bought the house two houses down to use as a 'rent-to-own' property. Turned out, there were 15 houses the Board *knows of* that are rented... Apparently GA allows such a covenant; lots of states apparently don't.

I did mightily relieve a (White) woman once. I was down the street,near a "for sale by owner" house -- they pulled up, wanting to know what the neighborhood was like. We chatted a bit and then I said: "I know this is what you actually wanted to ask: the neighborhood is almost entirely White." The woman nearly cried (my friend, who lived next door to it, was glowering at me -- not MY house, I am not bound by realtor laws!) They had been trying to find out where to go (their 2-counties-over place was going East Asian, and they WANTED OUT!) and of course, none of the "nice" White folks would tell them!

If you're not a realtor and it's not your house, feel free to 'help out' white folks looking to buy!

Oh, and my friend down the street, who disapproved of me speaking the uncomfortable truth, now has a hostile black-as-night LESBIAN renter next door... The guy selling was WAY out off of his mind on price, so he has rented. Still at least the lesbian does not have 6 teen sons with 7 different fathers!) (And, after some more education from me, my friend has finally awakened! Just bought his first gun, is laying in food and water, and has turned nicely racist!)

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 20, 2016 12:13 PM  

Good grief! I live under HOA.

I hates it.

One day I might be able to move away to non-HOA controlled property.

Be careful, very careful, what you wish for.

If you pursue, make sure there is an explict mechanism to disband and is easy to perform. Do put put a sunset date, requiring extension. All extensions to be half the original's initial period. Make extension period non amendable and explicitly prohibit making HOA perpetual and make this clauae non amendable. Prohibit HOA members from being able to bring discussion of making extending the HOA or making HOA permanent from being brought up in HOA meeting by HOA board members, must be brought up property owners and HOA resources must not be used for extension.

My HOA is the cause for laws changes in Texas. One law change had to do with making HOA permanent.

Anonymous Avalanche November 20, 2016 12:14 PM  

@63 "f community = country, then yes.
If community = neighborhood, then no.
Let all these people that are so enamored with diversity have a taste of it. "

Flawed logic -- the libs will be -- as they HAVE been -- able to force it on US, who already know and don't want it; while keeping their own pristine neighborhoods just the way they want them!

ABSOLUTELY freedom of association (and non-association) solidified in (federal) LAW!

Blogger Noah B aka Carlos Danger Close November 20, 2016 12:16 PM  

@81 Was the HOA dissolved, or does it still legally exist in an inactive state? There could be a very big difference between those two situations.

Anonymous Avalanche November 20, 2016 12:25 PM  

@71 " In places where you could get it, it probably wouldn't be needed."

Used to be so, no longer is -- even BEFORE the obamination and his "affirmatively affirming affirmative action with FORCE!"

I actually submitted a annoyed review to my local Kinkos (copy store). Of course the guy taking it agreed with me that he could not POSSIBLY send it up the chain the way I first phrased it: "I've been working with the staff here for 6-7 years. And WITHIN ONE WEEK then entire staff turned from White to black -- what the hell, are you BUSING THEM IN!?!?" (Very White "sun-down" county! -- Used to be....)

I then suggested he COULD send it up the chain by pointing out that my business had been working with the *same staff* for 6-7 years, and within one week, ALLLLLL the people who knew my biz, knew what I wanted and needed, and provided excellent service were GONE! They were replaced with people who did NOT provide (anywhere NEAR) the same high standard of service I was used to!" (He meekly said he could submit that one.)

I've also submitted "web reviews," which they ask for on every receipt, pointing out how shit the service has gone... (detailed descriptions and names). This "switch" was, like, 6 months ago; the last time I went in last week -- ALL White staff but one. Whoo hoo! (Dunno if I had any effect, but I'm sure pleased!)

Anonymous Avalanche November 20, 2016 12:30 PM  

@82 "Will you require unanimity, Nate? Are there people who are making a buck off of rentals? If both, expect a fight and probably failure."

If the lawyers who drafted the original HOA were any good-- then the HOA includes the percentage needed to modify the covenants. Ours requires... I think it's 70% of homeowners to sign on. We can do that.

And,of course, you have to SIGN onto the covenants when you buy. (Georgia has some useful protections!)

Anonymous BGKB November 20, 2016 12:31 PM  

Shouldn’t a white property owner have the right to fill his rental properties with Pakistanis…from Pakistan?

That's how jews would lower home prices in a neighborhood they wanted to buy up.

landowning Britannic Celts under Boudicca got stomped like narcs at a biker rally by 10-12000 landless Roman professionals.

Boudicca's army kicked ass until they fought a legion on ground prepared to destroy their mobility advantage. Maybe if landless armies go back to offering soldiers that they can rape all they want you will see results like the romans had.

Look, science! Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections?

If 25% are registered it doesn't matter if they vote as an Acorn bus load of people will vote for them.

Anonymous Pennywise November 20, 2016 12:37 PM  

"Does a white homeowner not have the freedom to dispense with his property as he wishes?"

Absolutely, Tom.

"Tom, according to Scripture, real property (land) is NOT yours to do as you wish with."

Cite the scripture, Mycroft.

"Neighborhood right of first refusal. Homeowner H, puts house on market for X. He settles for Y. Local neighborhood has automatic right to buy for Y + 1 dollars, and can then sell it to whomever they want."

Such a pie in the sky covenant wouldn't fly today. This "automatic right" autocratic and ultimately deprives the (white) individual of their personal liberty.

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 20, 2016 12:50 PM  

Rules for Israel were for Israel.

There might be applicable principles but the Old Covenant has been replaced.

Patriarchy is not coming back, not even when Jesus returns and sets up His kingdom forever.

All systems of propert ownership, or framework :P Tom K. ;), will have flaws. Some flaws worse than othwrs.

You want to implement a restrictive property transfer, then build a gated neighborhood and restrict access. Only access due to property ownership or invitation. That is the best that can be realistically accomplished in these days.

Blogger Noah B aka Carlos Danger Close November 20, 2016 12:55 PM  

@108 When paradigm shifts in popular attitudes occur, things that weren't possible before quickly become the norm. Look at how many things unthinkable in the 40's became commonplace by the 70's.

Anonymous Bob November 20, 2016 1:04 PM  

We call it the "Creeping Ghetto". It is only a matter of time before it reaches you unless you are above a certain price point in your town.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 1:08 PM  

@107 Pennywise, read Leviticus 25. The whole chapter. It includes verses like these:

23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.
24 And in all the land of your possession ye shall grant a redemption for the land.
25 If thy brother be waxen poor, and hath sold away some of his possession, and if any of his kin come to redeem it, then shall he redeem that which his
brother sold.

Or this one:

29 And if a man sell a dwelling house in a walled city, then he may redeem it within a whole year after it is sold; within a full year may he redeem it.
...
31 But the houses of the villages which have no wall round about them shall be counted as the fields of the country: they may be redeemed, and they shall
go out in the Jubilee.

And this:

Numbers 36

6 This is the thing which the LORD doth command concerning the daughters of Zelophehad, saying, Let them marry to whom they think best; only to the family of the tribe of their father shall they marry.
7 So shall not the inheritance of the children of Israel remove from tribe to tribe: for every one of the children of Israel shall keep himself to the inheritance of the tribe of his fathers.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 1:12 PM  

JaimeInTexas, the Word says:

Deuteronomy 4:6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

If someone rejects wisdom and understanding, JaimeInTexas, what do you call that person?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 20, 2016 1:14 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 20, 2016 1:15 PM  

The question, Tom, is whether a property owner has a right to impose a cost on his neighbors, without their consent. Libertarians are always blind to this question.

Blogger Cecil Henry November 20, 2016 1:41 PM  


Diversity means chasing DOWN the last White person. That must STOP.


The reason the third world is the way it is, and why 'immigrants' desperately want to leave the third world is because the third world is a disaster THEY let happen.

This is the problem for the European world.


White Genocide Defined:

“There can be no all-white countries anywhere, and there can be no all-white areas within the confines of those formerly all-white countries. There can be no all White communities, no all White, cities, no all White organizations.

Do you see that this evil proposition is Genocide?”

Anonymous Francois November 20, 2016 1:54 PM  

"Every community should have the right to pass laws banning anyone they don't want in their community from being permitted to buy homes there."

It seems like every time he lets his fingers wander, something wrong comes out.

VD: THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT!!!

Anonymous LurkingPuppy November 20, 2016 2:15 PM  

They've started having late-night parties every week, drugs, scary-looking guys, etc.
This is why we have laws against ‘disorderly conduct’, possession of certain drugs, etc.. All this reader has to do is find a prosecutor willing to enforce those existing laws.

Hey, why are you laughing at me?

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus November 20, 2016 2:33 PM  

Good grief, lady. Just wait until about 4 AM after they're all drunkasleep and toss a gasoline bomb in their house. Just make sure you wear rubber gloves and that nobody sees you.

Blogger Wishing Star November 20, 2016 2:51 PM  

This is a wise policy, and applies to relationships as well. A former pastor always said go where your appreciated, not where your tolerated.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 20, 2016 3:12 PM  

Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus said:
Just wait until about 4 AM after they're all drunkasleep and toss a gasoline bomb in their house. Just make sure you wear rubber gloves and that nobody sees you.
Wishing Star said:
This is a wise policy, and applies to relationships as well.

Blogger Kona Commuter November 20, 2016 4:08 PM  

118.  Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus "toss a gasoline bomb in their house"

That's the origin of the phrase "Being fired" ;-)

Blogger John S November 20, 2016 4:14 PM  

"Yer fired!" Has a better ring to it than "you're hickory smoked"...

Anonymous EH November 20, 2016 4:34 PM  

Damn thing found a whole new way to lose my post. At least it apologized this time.

http://www.infogalactic.com/info/Allodial_title

Anonymous Dave November 20, 2016 4:37 PM  

In Boston's metro-west suburbs, the wealthiest towns voted most heavily for Hillary, some by a margin of four to one. I suggest immediately moving all refugees there, first erecting temporary shelters on school ball fields, then building high-rise housing projects with no environmental review.

What better way for liberals to virtue-signal than by inviting the world's huddled masses to live in a town where a "starter home" costs $750,000?

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 5:21 PM  

I'm afraid you've failed to grasp the platonic essence of the problem, NIGS. Yes, restrictive covenants can do all of that. Getting the restrictive covenant from people already living in X locale, already invested in their property, and already looking to make a extra buck when they sell to move someplace warm is your problem. You can do restrictive covenants, ab initio, in some new development, easily. You can't do them in places already established nearly so easily.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 5:26 PM  

"Such a pie in the sky covenant wouldn't fly today. This "automatic right" autocratic and ultimately deprives the (white) individual of their personal liberty."

Likely not, though there are ways. (Why, yes, as a matter of fact; I was rather a good lawyer while I could stomach it.) However, we're speaking of a time, "post-revolution," one might say, when it would be possible but still has some local ethical and political problems to it and, to the extent one succeeded, would likely undermine the pull of the alt-white, even as they succeeded, and the more the more they succeeded.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 5:32 PM  

"What better way for liberals to virtue-signal than by inviting the world's huddled masses to live in a town where a "starter home" costs $750,000?"

That's probably further out than Weston, with a sickening commute.

Anonymous Daniel H November 20, 2016 5:33 PM  

>>"Every community should have the right to pass laws banning anyone they don't want in their community from being permitted to buy homes there."

Jews already have a form of that. It's called Israel.<<

There is more than Israel. In major cities with large Jewish populations, Jews have managed to erect on public property these roped borders called Eruvs. Eruvs encourage Jews to move into an area and sooner or later many of the Goyim are dispossessed. They effect is to create Jewish majority populations in these areas though that is not the expressed intent. There are Eruvs all over New York City. In Manhattan alone the entire upper West Side is Eruved. So is an area in the lower East Side. There are plans to create more. Hughe swaths or Brooklyn and Queens are Eruved. Not a peep about entangling Church and State here though.

Blogger RobertT November 20, 2016 5:34 PM  

It's time to quit buying homes in residential developments. Every single neighborhood eventually ends up a ghetto. Houses age, demographics change. My in-laws are the perfect of example. Even my home in a gated community can look forward to this future. 20 years in, already slipping.

Blogger RobertT November 20, 2016 5:37 PM  

Gated is too strong a word. Restricted works better.

Anonymous NIGS or N.A.P.(you may only pick one) November 20, 2016 6:13 PM  

You can do restrictive covenants, ab initio, in some new development, easily. You can't do them in places already established nearly so easily.-Kratman

Agreed. I forgot to add that to my original post: "Current diversity victims, you're screwed. You gotta move. But only this one last time, if you choose your new neighborhood wisely". All contingent on overturning the prohibition, of course.

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 20, 2016 6:16 PM  

MycroftJones.

Do you constraint yourself the Law If Moses?

I am a Christian, not a Jew and do not live in Israel. Not that current Israel governs under Mosaic Law.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 6:29 PM  

"Even my home in a gated community can look forward to this future. 20 years in, already slipping."

I know of one place, South Boston, MA, where the ethnic border hasn't moved so much as a yard in better than forty years. There's a project on the border, originally low income Irish that later went, ahem, diverse, but there they remain. The reason for that, though, is that the Irish (with a minor assist from the small population of Albanians, Poles, and Lithuanians) will kill you if you cross it and don't belong. I don't mean harass. I don't mean beat up. I mean kill.

However, I do not expect that to last. The upscale blacks fleeing diversity have nothing on east coast urban yuppies for being social Bedu. Precisely because South Boston had no street crime (the gangs would kill you), and vast social cohesion, they moved in. The prices they were willing to pay were sufficient to get the Irish, many of them, to sell and move to the suburbs. Liberalism in the form of yuppi-ism having a foothold; I do not hold out much hope that Southie will long remain what it once was.

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 20, 2016 6:32 PM  

Mycroftjones

How does the Law Of Moses apply to these uSA, regarding land distrubution and inheritance, when there was no God ordained, ratified through a bona fide prophet, an allocation of parcels?

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 6:38 PM  

"Current diversity victims, you're screwed. You gotta move."

Ya know why they move? Remember, that the first couple of black families moving to a white neighborhood tend to be higher quality and higher income. But the whites left look left and right, realize they don't really trust their neighbors not to sell, and so sell out first.

I'm in the mood to rant a bit. Fucking liberals; they have the reverse Midas Touch. Everything they set their hand to turns to shit. Why? Why because they're even stupider than the alt-Nazis, which is saying something.

If they'd both wanted to end discrimination in housing _and_ had two brain cells to run together (they lack the latter, of course), there were ways to have done it. One way would have been to set a limit: "Our population is 5% black; therefore only one house in 20 - or whatever 5 % of the houses in your area - will be allowed to go black and further settlement will be forbidden with all the power of the law behind it." Then whites wouldn't have been so eager to flee. They could have said, "Okay, we will guarantee to pay you the current value of your home, adjusted for inflation, when you sell, so you will not need to get what you can and run _now_." But noooo...too fucking doctrinaire and stupid. They could have said, for the next 25 years we guarantee you doubled police protection, even to include that mythical creature, the beat cop, until things settle down. You won't have to flee crime the way you're thinking." But, again, nooooooooo. They're so fucking doctrinairely stupid one would almost lump them in with the alt-Nazis.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 20, 2016 6:41 PM  

MycroftJones wrote:Here in Canada, Chinese are finding that they are getting the same end of the stick as white people.

White privilege is natural selection, and some Orientals have it too.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 20, 2016 6:50 PM  

A couple of points:

In 1947 or 1948, the Supreme Council of Blackrobes ruled that restrictive covenants to keep in the dindu and assorted die-ver-shitty out of ones nieghborbood violated the sacred penumbras and emanations as seen through the magical lens of the blackrobe, especially the (((usual suspects))). As mentioned before, the alleged God-Emperor would have to become a real God-Emperor in light of the alliance of cucks and Satanists who occupy most seats in the nominal legislature of the Banana Empire.

A far more practical means of partly restoring some semblance of sanity would be to abolish Section Ape - meaning dindus and colonizers would actually have to reside in places they could pay for with real money. A Trump administration can do much to destroy lawless Dept. of Housing and Urban Development from within without having to ask for permission from Pedo-Paul Ryan or the Kentucky Undertaker.

As for Churchians - where's a good church burning when it's needed?

Blogger Ezekiel November 20, 2016 7:13 PM  

If you want to rid of undesirables without going through the trouble of getting a law degree, there is always the Irish option... pipebomb chunked into the bedroom window. I personally wouldn't recommend it, but I do expect to start seeing it happen in America.

We had some obnoxious neighbours who thought it would it would be a good idea to move to a rough semi-rural white working class community. Bunch of insufferable Yankee-transplant yuppie types (no offense, Tom Kratman) who liked to call the cops every time someone's cattle got loose or the local kids road their four-wheelers down the road. Made enemies of everyone within the area within the first week or so.

One night, someone left an unlit molotov cocktail in their mailbox. "House-warming present", they called it. Obnoxious family was gone in a day.

Blogger MycroftJones November 20, 2016 7:14 PM  

@134 JaimeInTexas, http://georgegordon.org/audio/radio/search.lsp?r=95&q=220

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 7:31 PM  

Actually, Zeke, though I had a Brahmin accent inflicted on my in High School (Boston Latin), and though mother was offered a free ride to Radcliffe (which she turned down), my origins are pretty working class. And I'm not sure that "yuppie" and "infantry" can go in the same sentence, except insofar as there may be a negator in there somewhere. In any case, no offense; I detest liberal yankees and yuppies more than most do.

Blogger Kevin Smith November 20, 2016 7:48 PM  

I lived for many years in a bad neighborhood where I was minority white. The vast majority of the neighborhood was law abiding people who wanted to work hard and make a better life for their children. But it did not matter. The few who were involved in crime, having gang fights in front of their houses, attracting a bunch of aimless young men, made the neighborhood a place of misery and woe. Cops all the time. Trash in the streets. Enough low lifes can ruin a neighborhood very fast. No way to vote them off the island, but even worse, we are paying for them to live there and ruin our homes and lives.

Blogger Ezekiel November 20, 2016 7:51 PM  

Tom Kratman wrote:Actually, Zeke, though I had a Brahmin accent inflicted on my in High School (Boston Latin), and though mother was offered a free ride to Radcliffe (which she turned down), my origins are pretty working class. And I'm not sure that "yuppie" and "infantry" can go in the same sentence, except insofar as there may be a negator in there somewhere. In any case, no offense; I detest liberal yankees and yuppies more than most do.
When Massachusetts sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending Massholes that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing higher costs of living. They're bringing bad-tasting alcohol. They're preppies. And some, I assume, are good people."

"If it weren't for me, you wouldn't even be talking about Yankee immigration, Vox. This was not a subject on anyone's mind until I brought it up at my announcement. We need to build a wall on the Potomac, and it needs to be built quickly."

"And I don't mind having a big, beutiful door in that wall so that that Tom Kratman can come into the South legally."

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 7:52 PM  

Do I have to solve this one too?

Why do we feel the need to have this discussion? We wish to oppose the tactics of anti-white Third-Worldism, specifically that of George Soros. The principal dynamic is affordable family formation, via Steve Sailer. So the goal is to make white women comfortable enough to have babies, as opposed to minorities who will continue having babies regardless of their economic condition.

What does a white woman require to have babies? Generally: a good enough husband, a house, a financial buffer (insurance, etc.), local schools without >5% NAMs, and life stability (e.g. no demanding career). If I'm forgetting anything, chime in.

4GW is the interplay of demographics and ideological propaganda, so talking about raising yeoman soldiers and making a future for White Children is the same thing. If we are talking about setting up systems of rules for housing and property rights, they should be purely tactical.

Conclusion: Any property right that makes white family formation affordable is good, any increase of NAMs in rural, majority white counties is bad. Example: whites have good credit and minorities have bad credit, therefore allow rentals for couples with good credit.

Anonymous Luke November 20, 2016 7:55 PM  

Arson (initially of unoccupied dwellings) will soon be resorted to as self-defense by whites intruded upon by diversities to cure Section 8 attacks on their neighborhoods. If that doesn't work, arson of OCCUPIED dwellings would be next, along with attacks on the finances, other properties, bodies, and family members of the landlords. Expect monitoring cameras, which will themselves be vandalized. Expect human armed guards, who can be bribed, threatened, sniped, or had THEIR families gone after. Eventually, there will be far, far too many points being attacked for those pushing Section 8 attacks on white neighborhoods to successfully defend (or retaliate the specific arsonist, etc., after). It will be the classic "how does an occupying power beat partisans/resistance activities"? Only direct mass rapid genocide will work, and that will kick off the open war phase of Civil War Two, right then.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 20, 2016 8:05 PM  

Example: whites have good credit and minorities have bad credit, therefore allow rentals for couples with good credit.
Bad criterion. A great many Whites have bad credit, particularly the ones who don't feel stable enough to have children.
Finances are a very very bad proxy for race.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:06 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:As for Churchians - where's a good church burning when it's needed?

I'm in favor of torching any church that collaborates with federal bureaucrats to import masses of 3rd worlders, which is a common tactic for displacing entire communities. There have to be immediate, direct consequences for cucking your neighbors like that. Leftists who follow the party line would find themselves defending the sanctity of Christian churches, which would be a moral victory.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:14 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Example: whites have good credit and minorities have bad credit, therefore allow rentals for couples with good credit.

Bad criterion. A great many Whites have bad credit, particularly the ones who don't feel stable enough to have children.

Finances are a very very bad proxy for race.


Nonsense. Sure, there's a white underclass. They live in different neighborhoods from other whites and a different tactic will be necessary.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:16 PM  

An example tactic for the white underclass: poor whites are significantly less likely to have criminal histories than their poor NAM neighbors. Therefore, restrict housing via background checks.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:20 PM  

"No way to vote them off the island, but even worse, we are paying for them to live there and ruin our homes and lives."

Something I have gone on record with is this:

14. Most black crime is black on black crime. It is racist in its effects to deprive the black community of the social good that comes from executing black criminals that prey on other blacks. (That's from The Right's 20 Rules of Racism.)

I sometimes couple that with my frequent call to put to death common law felons. "What, you're going to execute someone for shoplifting a pair of nikes?" Yes. Why? Why because one of the things that makes life for minorities in the inner city so miserable is that, while having less money, everything costs more. They cannot keep supermarkets and department stores because the shoplifting destroys them. Thus they depend on little mom and pops with little variety, low quality, and high cost. Setting up a Walmart - not even a Filenes or Jordans (RIP) in, say, Roxbury, MA, and having 2-3 stretch-necked teen shoplifters twisting in the breeze outside would do the decent blacks of the place a world of good.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 20, 2016 8:20 PM  

Yes, they live in rural, largely White neighborhoods.

And, given how even a 95IQ Black is basically guaranteed any govt job he applies for, many have fine credit.

Try thinking all the way through instead of assuming every White is like you, and every Black is unlike. stereotyping

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:21 PM  

If I were the leader of the Alt-Right—and I am—then I would make it a career killer to even utter the words "Section 8" in public, just as if a person were caught saying "nigger". I mean a real chilling effect here, people need to learn to fear saying the words "Section 8" aloud or even hearing them.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 20, 2016 8:21 PM  

Therefore, restrict housing via background checks.

You've aleady excluded them, remember?

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:24 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Yes, they live in rural, largely White neighborhoods.

And, given how even a 95IQ Black is basically guaranteed any govt job he applies for, many have fine credit.

Try thinking all the way through instead of assuming every White is like you, and every Black is unlike. stereotyping


My credit is terrible, dumbass. Please don't concern troll while I'm doing GENIUS, it ruins the aesthetic.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:27 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Therefore, restrict housing via background checks.

You've aleady excluded them, remember?


You're being dense. Remember how I said "different tactic"?

Blogger Kevin Smith November 20, 2016 8:40 PM  

@Kratman

The property use issue you identify is a real problem. Any restriction on the activities that can be done with a property is a restriction on freedom. For instance, if any community could establish an HOA and deal with it by vote a bunch of corporations can buy up a neighborhood, rewrite the covenant, and vote the old home owners off the community so they can build a strip mall. Richard Epstein has written a lot about this and restrictions on the use of property are a dangerous 2 edge sword whether imposed by the government (a larger community) or the neighborhood by HOA (a smaller community). I don't see a good way to respect freedom of property use and give communities the power to limit who enters. However, I don't think it is necessary either. This is a proposed complicated fix for other problems that if fixed would address the issues.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:41 PM  

Crime is bad for family formation, so arson in general is hereby discouraged except as a reprisal.

Blogger Kevin Smith November 20, 2016 8:46 PM  

@Aeoli Pera

The data strongly suggest minority child bearing responds to same forces whites does. As minorities leave government assistance and enter the real world of bills and marriage the number of children declines same as whites. This same effect is seen in countries with the number of children per woman declining while countries get richer. As/if Africa continues to get richer they will have less children. Very few rich/educated groups have lots of children and generally they do so for religious reasons.(Catholics, etc).

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:47 PM  

He does that sometimes. OTOH, if you slap him once or twice he calms down.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:47 PM  

HOAs will need to be infiltrated and repurposed as an institution for resisting the predictable tendencies of Jewish landlords. This would be a good area to exercise a tactical degree of force.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 8:52 PM  

Simply matching credit to creditworthiness would likely do most of it, Kevin.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 8:54 PM  

Local banks may become important in this but I'm not sure why yet. I'm going for a run now, might have more when I get back.

Blogger Akulkis November 20, 2016 8:58 PM  

@3. And the sad part is, MAD Magazine pointed out this liberal hypocrisy in the mid-1960's. Wish I could remember which issue it was in....

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:06 PM  

Akulkis:

There were several. From memory, one:

"The negro we've hired, it's plain to see,
Should prove that we're free from all bigotry.
We're feeling so tolerant since he came
We don't even call him by his first name.
What his race is
Has no basis
Just so long as he knows what his place is.
If not quickly fired the negro we've hired will be."

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:36 PM  

"This is a proposed complicated fix for other problems that if fixed would address the issues."

It's at least worth trying to identify the root cause or causes, Section 8, perhaps, but probably some other things, eliminate those and see if the problem fixes itself.

But nothing is going to work until we cull the ferals.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 9:39 PM  

Ah...addendum, most of you are young; the tune for that song is "The Girl That I Marry." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B_SxndVzyw

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 9:43 PM  

Well, only two good bits came up amongst a load of fantasizing. 1) Chaotic trolling and memery is a proven method of energizing allies and demoralizing liberals, and this ought to be applied to HOAs with prejudice. 2) The political climate right now will be very receptive to propaganda pushing for lower regulation on local banks to make "good" loans, because "the economy" and "evil big banks".

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 9:46 PM  

The ferals will cull themselves so long as 1) people are allowed to self-segregate into preferred neighborhoods AND 2) whites continue to practice identity politics (which is to say, anti-gibs policies).

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 9:48 PM  

"Good" loans = loans to credit-worthy people.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 20, 2016 9:58 PM  

As for memes, the tried and true formula is to point out hypocrisy while also triggering an amygdala hijack. To do the former, simply identify a behavior that violates shitlib ideology and phrase the difference in a funny, disparaging way that draws attention to the liberal's disgusting degeneracy (e.g. "cuck"). To do the latter, identify an emotionally sensitive characteristic of the target (like fat or major depression, SJWs always project so they'll tell you) and exaggerate it while also committing a couple of irrelevant errors to activate their error-checking circuit.

Example: http://i.imgur.com/mLSWaRa.png

Blogger pdwalker November 20, 2016 10:06 PM  

(off-topic) Tom, looking forward to your next book in the Carerra series (/offtopic)

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 10:44 PM  

Thanks. I'll start on it again as soon as I finish Unto the Last Generation. "A Pillar of Fire by Night."

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 10:48 PM  

"As for memes, the tried and true formula is to point out hypocrisy while also triggering an amygdala hijack."

I have, myself, often wondered if it mightn't be possible to train lefties to be human beings by forcing them to solve problems and accept - indirectly - truths that would destroy their fantasies.

Example: could we but get them to understand that it's not possible to tax the rich - not bad, not evil, not unwise; _impossible_ - would they then not realize that all their happyhappyjoyjoywearetheworld programs are likewise impossible? I almost achieved this once with an ex-pat, lefty Scot in the old Asimovs forum. Got close enough to make me somewhat sanguine about the possibility.

Blogger Akulkis November 20, 2016 10:50 PM  

@163 Tom Kratman

That's a later issue than the one I'm thinking of. It was also a section of poems. The particular one was about the (implied racial) idealist living in his ivory tower... who refuses to live in any neighborhood that has blacks in it. somewhere in the time frame of 1963-65, IIRC.

When I was a kid, my brother and I spent a few weeks of every summer in our teenage years reading ALL of my dad's collection of Mad that went all the way back to issue #28, and included nearly every issue up to about #132.

Blogger Akulkis November 20, 2016 10:55 PM  

@169.

Looks too normal. Needs multi-colored hair, and pieces of metal sticking out of her face.

Anonymous Anonymous November 20, 2016 11:00 PM  

This poor lady forgot to mention the bit where they shoot the pistols into the ceiling. I was in Los Angeles six years. You've got no life there. They take even the insude of your head away from you. Get them out.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 11:01 PM  

Somewhere, hereabouts, I have the complete MAD collection on disk. You know, "Memories...light the corners of my mind..." If I get ambitious I'll dig it out and look for those.

Blogger S1AL November 20, 2016 11:13 PM  

It's funny how every problem that gets brought up ultimately returns to federal mis-regulation and supplements:

Immigrants? Dramatically reduce immigration.

Irresponsible people with too many kids? End government subsidies.

Violent criminals? Enforce existing laws negated by "sensitivity training".

Renting/selling to "the wrong kind of people"? Only happens because of laws forcing the banks to make loans.

Blogger Akulkis November 20, 2016 11:30 PM  

If you're looking... it will be some goofy looking long-haired guy in glasses, poking out of the top of his Ivory Tower. The poem and the illustration are in the lower right-hand side of the page.

I think the title of the article might be something like "Modern Nursery Rhymes"

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 11:39 PM  

I can picture that illustration, Akul. My memory is actually quite good (witness the song above, after 50 or so years) but it has limits. The illustration I can see _clearly_ but the verse not at all.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 20, 2016 11:45 PM  

"It's funny how every problem that gets brought up ultimately returns to federal mis-regulation and supplements..."

Even that doesn't get to the core problem; we _have_ to elect a new people, or, rather, a new voting populace. Timocracy now. Timocracy tomorrow. Timocracy forever.

Anonymous DissidentRight November 21, 2016 12:02 AM  

It does apply similarly, yes. But you probably can't expect to be taken with a straight face by claiming, "We're taking these rights away from you because we’re Libertarians.”

We’re taking them away because we’re NOT Libertarians…anymore.



In the end, what is the difference between Alt-Nazis triggering a race war for “muh purity” and the Alt Right/Alt West/Hard Right/whatever triggering a race war by tightening (let alone ending) the welfare system, openly allowing restrictive covenants to form, or applying appropriate police measures to black-heavy areas?

Fortunately white ethnoempathy is not going to magically go away just because race war (at least not right away), which suggests that the minority of non-Americans who can-do, are self-aware, have established themselves, and would otherwise be on our side will not be exterminated or whatever.

Blogger Akulkis November 21, 2016 12:08 AM  

@178 Tom

You and me, both.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 21, 2016 12:09 AM  

Who's likely to start the shooting, for one thing, and the goal, for another.

Blogger Can't wait November 21, 2016 12:17 AM  

This is one of many reasons I am very thankful to live in a cold climate region. I hear people always complaining of northern winters, not me...1) European people dominate, 2) no bugs, 3) the snow covers over the debris of civilization, 4) very quiet, 5) no crime. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!

Blogger Akulkis November 21, 2016 12:33 AM  

The left will keep pushing and pushing with more and more violent provocations, until the backlash will be both sudden and massive.

Anonymous Jonathan November 21, 2016 12:39 AM  

A Chicago cop once told me an integrated neighborhood exists only between the time the first black moves in and the last white moves out.

Anonymous DissidentRight November 21, 2016 1:05 AM  

Yes, Colonel. And it is all very well and good for me to SAY I don't share the Alt-Nazis' goals...but in this war, it's sure going to look like I do.

Blogger Tom Kratman November 21, 2016 2:53 AM  

That may well be, to some people, but not to others. And it doesn't change that there are still some important differences, important to various minorities and important to us.

Anonymous DissidentRight November 21, 2016 9:06 AM  

That's true.

Blogger Thucydides November 23, 2016 12:01 AM  

Just remember that in "vibrant" communities, things like infrastructure tend to get overlooked as well. The Blue cities full of progressives and diversity may soon resemble places like Islamabad where electricity only runs for a few hours each day, and water and sewage are major daily issues rather than "utilities".

I hope they enjoy their "diverse" cities at that point.

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