Saturday, November 05, 2016

No wonder it's in decline

The NFL won't give a gold blazer or a ring to Ken Stabler's family:
Election to the Pro Football Hall of Fame creates virtual immortality. But actual immortality may be required to achieve the full benefits of the recognition.

As noticed on the Twitter feed of Mike Freeman, whose biography of Ken Stabler will be released this month, the powers-that-be at the Pro Football Hall of Fame have declined to give a gold jacket or a so-called Ring of Excellence to Stabler. Presumably because he’s not alive to wear them....

Why shouldn’t the family of the Hall of Fame be able to own and display the gold jacket and the ring? The Hall of Fame doesn’t confiscate those items when living Hall of Fames die; the Hall of Famers shouldn’t deny a jacket and ring to those who didn’t win enshrinement during their lifetimes.
What a weird, nasty, small-minded organization. No wonder they consistently make stupid and self-defeating decisions these days. Not that I care about Stabler, much less his family. But I'll bet Raiders fans do. This isn't a big deal, except in that it demonstrates the utter tone deafness and lack of common sense that characterizes the Roger Goodell NFL.

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Blogger Cecil Henry November 05, 2016 9:05 PM  

I have no real interest in this decision either, but such churlish behavior is just ... weird.

And unnecessary, and can only look disrespectful to the image of the game and its participants.

There must be more to this????

Anonymous Wyrd November 05, 2016 9:08 PM  

Loved to play the game as a kid. Bored out of my skull to watch. May its professional standing burn in a mighty fire.

Blogger Lazarus November 05, 2016 9:12 PM  

Shows a lack of MAGnanimity

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 05, 2016 9:16 PM  

Petty and despicable.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 05, 2016 9:22 PM  

I don't watch NFL anymore but to deny Ken Stabler is some bullshit. The "Riverboat Gambler" is representative of the bygone days of the NFL; days when the NFL was embodied in "North Dallas Forty". I guess this is what happens when institutions are converged. They try to erase their glories and replace such with a politically correct narrative.

Blogger Eric Mueller November 05, 2016 9:22 PM  

I've never been able to get into sportsball. But if I had, seeing how the NFL is a multi-billion dollar GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED 503(c3) non-profit monopoly, I'm almost sure that would turn me off from it. The NFL is pretty much SJW converged. Fuck the NFL. I know you guys love to watch 3+ hour games with less than 15 minutes of real action. but I can't help think that wearing pink for "break cancer Ocktober" (yes, I use the commie spelling) would piss me off enough to stop caring.

I'd almost go so far as to say, if these bastards care enough about "equality", let's go all the way. All NFL, NBA, and whatever else teams must be 50% female because equality. Surely, that would end all the SJW convergence, if we start fucking with sports, which the common zombie actually cares about.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 05, 2016 9:24 PM  

I guess I can forget about the NFL celebrating Lyle Alzado or Mark Gastineau.

Blogger haus frau November 05, 2016 9:31 PM  

Assasination attempt on Trump in reno Nevada.

Anonymous jm November 05, 2016 9:34 PM  

Apparently the crowd jumped the gunman and held him down until Secret Service could get there.

Anonymous Wyrd November 05, 2016 9:35 PM  

Trump was uninjured during the incident.

Good. I don't feel like killing rabbits today.

Blogger Lazarus November 05, 2016 9:37 PM  

Eric Mueller wrote:I know you guys love to watch 3+ hour games with less than 15 minutes of real action.

Its more like "monitoring" or spot watching. I get a lot of other stuff done while a game is on.

Plus, can watch more than one at once and do something else too. One learns how to follow the ebbs and flows.

Its not as zombiefied as you may think, although I do appreciate the fact that a 90 minute soccer game can be done in 2 hours, but you have to pay more close attention, because of the non-stop action.

Anonymous jm November 05, 2016 9:38 PM  

Supposedly a picture of the gunman being taken away. (sorry for the dearth of hyperlink.)

Blogger Gavin Veil November 05, 2016 9:44 PM  

I do believe that the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the NFL are separate organizations, not to say the NFL has no influence, but I doubt they are actually behind this. More likely just an archaic interpretation of the rules which they should waive for Stabler's living relatives.

Anonymous Shill November 05, 2016 9:57 PM  

#7: I saw Gastineau fight in Reno in '91 or '92. He turned and ran, against a guy 6'2"/215. Fight over in less than a minute.

Blogger bearspaw November 05, 2016 10:07 PM  

Super Bowl winner, multiple Pro Bowls, MVP winner. Alabama legend. Nope. Didn't walk on the moon. Next.

Anonymous Ron November 05, 2016 10:21 PM  

Like children playing a children's game.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky November 05, 2016 10:21 PM  

How very odd. I've been thinking over reasons why they would deny the ring, none make sense. Particularly the one given, not in this era where sports memorabilia commands a premium. Pete Rose has lived off memorabilia for decades, and a memorabilia scuffle is why OJ is in jail.

The decision to deny the Stabler family these things really does shortchange them.

Blogger Teri November 05, 2016 10:28 PM  

I saw this the other day and it made me angry. Stabler was the ne of the finest quarterbacks to play the game. I can't remember who they played, but I watched Stabler start back about their two yard line and move the ball up the entire field to score a touchdown. He was nearly out of time too. It was one of the most impressive series I've ever seen.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 05, 2016 10:32 PM  

@13 Gavin Veil, from the link:

At a time when the NFL seems to be more sensitive than ever to public reaction, hopefully a loud and negative reaction to the treatment of the family of Ken Stabler will get the Hall of Fame (which is run by, among others, seven owners and Commissioner Roger Goodell) to do the right thing.

This steaming pile of horseshit is squarely on Goodell's plate.

Blogger Miss Carnivorous November 05, 2016 10:35 PM  

Give my man Kenny his rightful due!!

Blogger Gavin Veil November 05, 2016 10:52 PM  

That doesn't place it on Goodell's plate as far as I'm aware the final say on these matters falls within the purvey of the President of the Hall of Fame David Baker. He was the one to whom the Stabler family appealed and he was the one who also denied their request for a incredibly stupid reason. Based on the information the Stabler family provided this steaming pile of horseshit is squarely on Mr. Baker's plate.

Anonymous Marvin Boggs November 05, 2016 11:24 PM  

The NFL really needs to hire a competent PR staff, and then they need to listen to them. Either their current PR crew is completely incompetent, or the guys at the top ignore them. The NFL seems to believe that they have some sort of divine right to fans and profits. That sort of delusion tends to be cured in a painful manner.

Blogger Sambuca Ford November 06, 2016 12:28 AM  

Damn right Raider fans do. The Snake personified the 70s league and the outlaw franchise. Piss on Gaddell and the shield-cum-plowshare.

Blogger pyrrhus November 06, 2016 12:42 AM  

Unbelievable lack of class...."Snake" Stabler must be the wrong race or something....

Blogger pyrrhus November 06, 2016 12:43 AM  

@21 If the NFL insisted, the HOF would cave in a minute...

Blogger Flavius Ioculator November 06, 2016 1:03 AM  

I'm going to take a knee the next time I have a premonition to watch foozball.

Blogger James Dixon November 06, 2016 1:39 AM  

Stabler was one of the best. His family should get everything the hof can give them.

Anonymous Ron November 06, 2016 1:46 AM  


The NFL is run by a very odd bunch of people. Older wealthy men obsessed with young - mostly black - men. The players are rightfully treated as children and it carries over into how they run the organization.
The fans are also treated as children dependent on the league. It is just a game after all.
I played football in high school and always found it disturbing how coaches would create a sense of idolization of certain players. When I was in college we had athletes that would come to class whenever they felt like it, and would still pass all of the courses. One of our professors told the class that none of the players could be failed.
It is a very creepy culture. It is no surprise that they often rape women when they are given a pass on bad behavior in other aspects of life.
I stopped watching nigger-ball after three events.
1) When PAC Man Jones was involved in a shooting at a strip club that left a security guard crippled for life, and nothing happened to him.
2) When I saw pictures of the tortured dogs that Mike Vick and his gang of garbage had committed. And he was allowed back in the league.
3) Then there was Ray Lewis, who essentially got away with murder because he could run fast on a patch of grass and tackle the person with a ball.

Time to get away from feetsball and see it for what it is. Worshipping negro garbage is disgusting.

Blogger Nate November 06, 2016 1:16 AM  

I'm convinced Roger Goodell's primary goal is to return Baseball to the National Passtime.

Anonymous JAG November 06, 2016 5:04 AM  

Lazarus wrote:Eric Mueller wrote:I know you guys love to watch 3+ hour games with less than 15 minutes of real action.

Its more like "monitoring" or spot watching. I get a lot of other stuff done while a game is on.

Plus, can watch more than one at once and do something else too. One learns how to follow the ebbs and flows.

Its not as zombiefied as you may think, although I do appreciate the fact that a 90 minute soccer game can be done in 2 hours, but you have to pay more close attention, because of the non-stop action.

With all due respect to soccer fans I am tired of this bullshit about "non-stop" action. The few times I have tried to watch soccer the game stops all the damn time with the ball going out of bounds.

If you like soccer, that's fine, but don't peddle bullshit about it trying to lift it above American football in categories that neither sport can simultaneously fit into because of the vast differences in the way the games are played.

Blogger Front toward enemy November 06, 2016 5:39 AM  

Gave up the nfl this year, after 50 some years of watching. I somehow feel cleaner. Also gave up Starbucks, Target and Home Depot. Wife says pretty soon we will have no where to shop if I keep it up. Can you say " get off my lawn"?

Anonymous Bob November 06, 2016 7:20 AM  

Watched some good college ball Saturday, and it was much more accessible than any NFL game. Often catch some really good high school games on Fridays, even more accessible. Some real nail biters and Cinderella games if you just enjoy the sport and could care less about the names. Yet another reason the NFL viewership is slipping; try as they may to maintain a monopoly, their own tiered system provides the competition that they want to avoid.

Blogger Duke Norfolk November 06, 2016 8:42 AM  

Yeah, this is some epic injustice. Pure B.S. And though I hate to fall into the trap of seeing everything thru one lens, you can't help but think that Stabler being a roughneck-type white man must play into this somehow.

He was a true icon during my childhood/young adult years when I loved to follow the game. I lost interest in pretty much all sports watching several years ago when I started to really pay attention to the world and started my red pill process. I just couldn't find myself caring enough to spend the time anymore.

Anonymous mature craig November 06, 2016 9:51 AM  

I think maybe with so much money involved corruption is inevitable...It reminds me of an episode of Threes Company. Jack Janet and Chrissy were all getting along fine until the three of them won a sizable amount of money. Then suddenly they were at each others throats fighting about the money and what to do with it.

Anonymous scatch November 06, 2016 10:08 AM  

Stabler Back, unleashes a bullet to Biletnikoff on an out pattern--First down.

Stabler Back, in trouble, hobbles to the sideline, eludes a tackler--back to the line of scrimmage. Kenny is getting up slow.

2nd and 10, Stabler back and hands it off to Hubbard on a draw, slips a tackler, five yeards.

3rd and 5, Stabler back, launches it to Branch, great layout catch, falls is back up, eludes, two tacklers, Touchdown!

"Vern, Stabler's having a great game. There he is on the sidellines....What's that he's drinking?"

"I don't think it's water"

Blogger Cail Corishev November 06, 2016 11:01 AM  

I'm convinced Roger Goodell's primary goal is to return Baseball to the National Passtime.

He just might do it. Watching a bit of baseball these last couple seasons, and some of the last hockey playoffs, I was pleasantly surprised by the lack of SJW nonsense and nannying of the players that he's brought to the NFL. Hockey even had a male sideline guy asking questions that pertained to the actual play, instead of the usual chick asking players about their feelings or questions that amount to, "Could you give me a soundbyte?" that the NFL gives us now.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 06, 2016 11:13 AM  

SJWs hate football, and they are causing us to hate it by defiling it with their filth. The NFL is getting the same treatment as SF&F and gaming and Goose is their man.

Anonymous Jack Amok November 06, 2016 11:56 AM  

The Hall of Fame is of course the organization that had to cancel a game because the field was too crappy to play on.

Blogger Dan Kurt November 06, 2016 12:34 PM  

re: "...but I watched Stabler start back about their two yard line and move the ball up the entire field to score a touchdown." Teri

Didn't we all? Stabler's inventiveness with his repeatedly "fumbling" the football forward to one of his players just as he was being tackled actually caused a rule change. He was a Snake as he could slither on the field like few others. Read his biography of the same name: Snake.

Dan Kurt

Anonymous mature craig November 06, 2016 1:20 PM  

Im starting to make my way back to the NFL. With all due respect to the Africans that i love. Im a big believer that if the white man gets fed well as a child and as a teenager he can compete physically with the black man

Anonymous Kolya November 06, 2016 1:21 PM  

I have enjoyed watching Stabler since he was a burr haired freshman at Bama and Steve Sloane separated him from the Namath era.

As Madden said, I want the Snake to be my quarterback on that last drive. People forget that prior to the Immaculate Reception, Ken Stabler led the Raiders downfield on just such a drive.

Be at peace down in Foley my muse of my youth.

Anonymous mature craig November 06, 2016 1:31 PM  

Re 120 ya know what let me just give the black man his due.. He is awesome.. Those bodies that some of them have are unbelievable.

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