ALL BLOG POSTS AND COMMENTS COPYRIGHT (C) 2003-2016 VOX DAY. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. REPRODUCTION WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED.

Thursday, November 24, 2016

Not a disavowal

Or at least, not the disavowal one might think. It turns out the God-Emperor Ascendant's "disavowal of the Alt-Right" is considerably more limited than the media is portraying. How very surprising that the mainstream media's precision in this regard should turn out to be, shall we say, just a little misleading:
UNKNOWN: Mr. President-elect, I wanted to ask you, there was a conference this past weekend in Washington of people who pledged their allegiance to Nazism.

TRUMP: Boy, you are really into this stuff, huh?

PRIEBUS: I think we answered that one right off the bat.

UNKNOWN: Are you going to condemn them?

TRUMP: Of course I did, of course I did.

PRIEBUS: He already did.

UNKNOWN: Are you going to do it right now?

TRUMP: Oh, I see, maybe you weren’t here. Sure. Would you like me to do it here? I’ll do it here. Of course I condemn. I disavow and condemn.
There you have it. Donald Trump condemns and disavows Nazis. I believe I can accurately speak for the vast majority of the global nationalist Right when I say: BFD. A defunct, defeated, and outdated German political program has literally nothing to do with everyone who doesn't wear swastika panties.

The interesting question, of course, as Roger Stone points out, is: who is UNKNOWN?

Anyhow, if you're Alt-Right, you don't attend NPI conferences, and you haven't "pledged allegiance to Nazism", you need not concern yourself with it. The God-Emperor still loves you and America.

Labels:

131 Comments:

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett November 24, 2016 8:04 AM  

Whew, that's a relief!

Happy Thanksgiving and Deo Gratias for your efforts!

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 8:19 AM  

But but but!

Richard Spencer came up with the term "Alt-right"!

That makes him Der leader!

Anyone who denounces Nazi saluting teenagers is denouncing the whole alt right!

At least that's what The Daily Shoah said furiously across two separate podcasts.

Blogger clk November 24, 2016 8:19 AM  

New york republican... thats means he is to the left of a texas democrat. I have watched him from the 80's .. there was trump the candidate, and then trump the president.. and the simplist answer is EITHER 1. he acts the way he dis for the campaign or 2. He acts the way he did all his life... which is likely to be the answer...

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen November 24, 2016 8:21 AM  

TRUMP: I just saw that today.
...I disavow the group. They, again, I don’t know if it’s reporting or whatever.

He's only denounced the media impression, which was false, ergo it's not even a denunciation of NPI.

Anonymous DarkEden November 24, 2016 8:25 AM  

Just consider everything you hear from the media the equivalent of that guy from Saving Pvt Ryan saying, "The Statue of Liberty is Kaput!"

The Trumperor condemns the alt right? Why that's very disconcerting, Mr. Propagandist, sir.

Blogger Johnny November 24, 2016 8:29 AM  

My impression is that Trump doesn't much care and the press is just flinging some mud at Trump to see if it will stick. And between them neither party has actually looked into alt-right.

As a practical business guy Trump knows quite well that different groups have different tendencies and that some of those groups can be identified by race. But beyond that he also knows that any kind of hint of race this-or-that is deadly, so he does not want to get into it, sees it as a distraction. Which for the press is what it is.

Blogger Orville November 24, 2016 8:31 AM  

So if that was the full transcript then it's yet another example of the God-Emperor's effortless shitlordery. To my knowledge there is nobody in the media who is his match.

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 8:32 AM  

At least that's what The Daily Shoah said furiously across two separate podcasts.

I wouldn't know. Like most of the Alt-Right, I pay literally no attention to whatever it is they do. I won't attack or disavow them, but I can't pretend to understand what they are hoping to accomplish either.

It's really rather remarkable that they look at the way more and more people are following Mike and I, and conclude that, obviously, the optimal move will be to attack us rather than learn from us.

In January, my blogs had 1,982,034 pageviews. This month, they may hit 4 million. Castalia's sales are more than 3x what they were year-on-year. Both of these things are, in part, the result of my listening to Mike after we met last year and learning from him.

Would I have been better off had I devoted the last year to attacking Mike and attempting to discredit and disqualify him? I really don't see how.

Blogger Lobo Util November 24, 2016 8:32 AM  

Thanksgiving Day thought:

I am grateful for all the media slamming Breitbart and calling it the Nazi propaganda headquarters. It is driving people all over the world to an excellent source of news and a varied source of opinion where they can laugh at the accusations. It will help the alt-right to be viewed as more mainstream than MSNBC, and more reasonable than Fox News.

I don't think the Breitbart enterprise could ask for a nicer Thanksgiving and Christmas season.

Blogger Undocumented Pharmacist November 24, 2016 8:35 AM  

Trump, " Boy, you are really into this stuff, huh?"

He could have added, "Are they Illinois nazis? I hate Illinois nazis." Might have asked unknown, "Oh, I don't know. What do YOU think I should do? Get out of here. You can come back when you're through being an idiot."

Anonymous karsten November 24, 2016 8:36 AM  

if you're Alt-Right, you don't attend NPI conferences, and you haven't "pledged allegiance to Nazism"

JFC, Spencer and NPI didn't "pledge allegiance to Nazism."

So any Alt-Righter with an ounce of integrity should be condemning the media for this unhinged fabrication, rather than being water-carriers for the media and joining in the chorus of oh-so-virtuous condemnation.

Because the latter is exactly what cuckservatives always did and continue to do, any time the Leftist media starts bellyaching about "racism" and "anti-Semitism" and what not.

If you're in agreement with the (((media))), you're the cuck.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch November 24, 2016 8:39 AM  

The Alt-Right has won the election. Do we still play as though our backs are against the wall and we have nothing left to lose?

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 8:46 AM  

TRS goys are funny, but they do tend to purity spiral.

They think the fact that they have built a damn fine platform means that they have nothing to learn from those who have built better ones.

At least they can still boast that they have a bigger audience than Richard Spencer, especially after the recent unpleasantness.

Blogger MycroftJones November 24, 2016 8:48 AM  

@12 until he's sworn into office, it isn't over. Jill Stein has raised the money to call for a recount in swing states, and they've had enough time to fill in a bunch more fake ballots.

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 8:48 AM  

The Alt-Right has won the election

No, it didn't. Donald Trump won the election. Don't be an idiot.

JFC, Spencer and NPI didn't "pledge allegiance to Nazism."

Of course they didn't. They were just stupid enough to take the media bait and allow themselves to be portrayed that way. What part of "don't talk to the media" do you idiots find hard to understand?

If you're in agreement with the (((media))), you're the cuck.

We're not in agreement with the media, you moron. But unlike Spencer, we're not dumb enough to get in bed with them either. Unlike Spencer, we don't even talk to them on the telephone, let alone on camera.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 8:50 AM  

Spencer of course didn't pledge allegiance to any such thing.

And he couldn't have denounced the juvenile imbeciles who threw up straight arm salutes after the fact without seeming a total cuck.

He simply shouldn't have been winding them up with "heil victory" in the first place.

He really is smarter than that, or at least gives every impression of being smarter than that.

Blogger Ceasar November 24, 2016 8:57 AM  

I agree. Trump needs to get to inauguration first before punting the media puppies. Til then, it's carrying an umbrella, whistling with a smile while these monkeys throw feces at him. Why would we expect it to be any different?

Blogger Cail Corishev November 24, 2016 8:58 AM  

Trump, " Boy, you are really into this stuff, huh?"

That's great, and sounds like the sort of rhetorical counter one of us might have used. Then he goes on to treat the reporter like he's dense and hasn't been paying attention, and is wasting everyone's time. Good stuff.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 8:58 AM  

Not trying to pump up your tyres Vox but your response to this issue seems to have been the most dispassionate and fact based.

Everyone else seems to have lost their freaking minds one way or the other.

As I think you said elsewhere this is bad news for Spencer and not much of a muchness for anyone else.

Hos media strategy has failed, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't even realize it yet.

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 8:58 AM  

He simply shouldn't have been winding them up with "heil victory" in the first place.

Yes. And he should not have permitted the media to attend and film his speech either. Nor should he have dragged Trump into it. He made three unforced errors.

It is what it is. One hopes he will learn from them rather than double down.

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 8:59 AM  

Not trying to pump up your tyres Vox but your response to this issue seems to have been the most dispassionate and fact based.

I have no dog in this hunt. I wish Spencer well. I am Mike's friend and ally. I support the God-Emperor and the Alt-Right, as defined by the 16 Points.

I would like everyone to up their game now that there is increased attention. That's all.

Blogger frigger611 November 24, 2016 9:00 AM  

So lame to use this "Hail" Roman salute. I have a cop friend who says it's a dog whistle for the Nazi salute. Meh.

So the left and the media (one big ol' 5th column IMHO)salivate over this insignificant dog whistling incident, but BLM, Black Panthers and others actually commit horrible violence and murder and are portrayed as darling victims - even get invited to the White House.

Van Jones, Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers were freakin domestic terrorists and now well employed Democrats and friends of Obama.

No one hounded Obama ever day to disavow them, or any other hateful group.

But that is the playing field. It has never been level. Best to understand that and adjust play calling accordingly.

Stupid to give them any scraps of red meat, (and Nazism is stupid too).

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros November 24, 2016 9:02 AM  

JAMES wrote:Anyone who denounces Nazi saluting teenagers is denouncing the whole alt right!

At least that's what The Daily Shoah said furiously across two separate podcasts.


Actually they said that if you publicly disavow, you're playing the game the way the media wants you to, and are helping publicly spread divisiveness and despair, so you should publically cover for your extremists like the Left does. Don't D&C shill by spreading disinformation.

Blogger Orville November 24, 2016 9:04 AM  

He really is smarter than that, or at least gives every impression of being smarter than that.

James, as that great philosopher said, "Stupid is as stupid does", and I see a whole lotta doing there with Herr Spencer.

Blogger JWM in SD November 24, 2016 9:08 AM  

I'm getting really tired of this disavow game the media has been playing since the David Duke so called endorsement. This is getting tiresome.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 9:08 AM  

There is public disavowing which is arguably what Mike C did and mild disagreement like Vox did.

They attacked both as cucks.

It's as if they're saying no one can disagree with what was clearly a bone headed move.

Blogger JACIII November 24, 2016 9:08 AM  

JAMES wrote:

He really is smarter than that, or at least gives every impression of being smarter than that.


Whether he is smarter than that will be evidenced by whether he has learned anything from it. The MSM is your enemy. They are organized, motivated, and fanatically against you.

Many figures on the right have had to learn this the hard way.

Somewhere, someone is bragging on a Journolist about leading Spencer to slaughter.

Blogger Chris Mallory November 24, 2016 9:09 AM  

Lobo Util wrote:It is driving people all over the world to an excellent source of news and a varied source of opinion where they can laugh at the accusations.

Lobo Util wrote:Breitbart


Sadly, Breitbart is still infested with hordes of "the Democrats are the real racist" conservatards.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 24, 2016 9:13 AM  

IMO if you are not spending your time discrediting the establishment especially its propagandists (media)then you're wasting my time. Spencer wasted my time by trying to play intellectual in front of the media which is a decades old losing script, then he played junior basement Fuhrer which is another decades old losing script (go ahead write to the previous losers and ask them, hint Fed prison system), and then the old purity script, loserdom exemplified.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) November 24, 2016 9:17 AM  

VD
The interesting question, of course, as Roger Stone points out, is: who is UNKNOWN?



considering that we now know that some of those throwing up "Roman Salutes" at the Spencer conference were Jews ... i believe you meant to phrase Stone's question as:
"who is (((UNKNOWN)))?"

Jews. are they being needlessly provocative? or was it a long con the whole time designed to give their (((brethren))) in the news media a narrative to shove down every else's throat.

Blogger Billy November 24, 2016 9:17 AM  

I'm not going to disparage Germans or Nazism. I have English roots so no link to either. But after educating myself concerning the third Reich. I realized everything I had been taught was a lie. The goals of the Nazis and the goals of the alt-right interlap( calm down James, IMO). That being said it was a stupid move by Spencer. One cannot rehabilitate the public image of Fascism, It is too tainted. Something doesn't add up with Spencer though, for years he would not touch the question of Jewish power and influence. Now he's dropping catch phrases and encouraging hail hitler salutes. Like other people have said, Don't shoot to your right. The Left protects its fringes, the right purges theirs. I guess it's best to be cool and see how the Spencer thing plays out.

Anonymous TheHardRight November 24, 2016 9:17 AM  

Happy Thanksgiving to the Vox family and the many contributors here that I have learned from over the past year. I am thankful for it.

Blogger Orville November 24, 2016 9:19 AM  

Exactly, and that is what Cernovich is doing, taking a sledgehammer to the MSM's fragile false narrative.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey November 24, 2016 9:21 AM  

Anyhow, if you're Alt-Right, you don't attend NPI conferences, and you haven't "pledged allegiance to Nazism", you need not concern yourself with it. The God-Emperor still loves you and America.

Okay, good, I feel better already.

It's funny that the Alt-Right (Alt-West?) stupidly welcomed Cernovich, PJW, and Lauren Southern into the movement only to be betrayed by them, while vilifying loyalists such as Roosh.

All of these groups--Alt-Right, Alt-West, Alt-Lite, and Alt-Lite-In-The-Loafers--are looking pretty foolish right now.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Anonymous basementhomebrewer November 24, 2016 9:24 AM  

Its ego over victory, pure and simple. Spencer wants to enshrine himself as the leader of the alt-right in the publics eye. He invited the media in a bid to do just that but then proceeded to make several more (the first being inviting the media) stupid mistakes. I suspect his ego will not allow him to admit to that and learn from it.

Blogger Bard November 24, 2016 9:24 AM  

Of course I did, of course I did.....

Would you condemn them here and now?
Would you condemn them with a cow?
Would you condemn them here or there?
Would you condemn them everywhere?

Unknown was obviously Dr. Seuss

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey November 24, 2016 9:29 AM  

"Something doesn't add up with Spencer though, for years he would not touch the question of Jewish power and influence. Now he's dropping catch phrases and encouraging hail hitler salutes."

Yeah, I noticed the same thing. My guess is, the excitement of the election season caused him and his young LARPy followers to blow their load too early. The movement just needs to grow up and tighten its operation. Be professional.

If anything, this episode should show Richard and NPI that the 'big tent' approach doesn't work. There were hordes of journalists at the event, as well as obvious jews and who knows how many plants. It doesn't work.

Vox: I would like everyone to up their game now that there is increased attention. That's all.

Exactly. Why is this so difficult for some people to understand?

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 9:32 AM  

It's funny that the Alt-Right (Alt-West?) stupidly welcomed Cernovich, PJW, and Lauren Southern into the movement only to be betrayed by them, while vilifying loyalists such as Roosh.

You're a liar, LGF. While I know nothing about Lauren or PJW, I know that Mike has betrayed nothing and no one. Roosh has never, ever been vilified by me, and he loves the VFM, who have supported him in ways you do not know.

Blogger Student in Blue November 24, 2016 9:35 AM  

LBF lives mostly in his own head anyway.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey November 24, 2016 9:36 AM  

Nonsense. Cernovivh turned on the Alt-Right when it suddenly dawned on him that Richard was getting more serious media attention than he was. Mike was jealous. That's what motivated his online meltdown the other day.


Anonymous Anonymous November 24, 2016 9:36 AM  

Can't say for sure, but think framing things that way was to ease worry. Attacking you would be to refute the alarm we all felt.

I believe they bend the truth at times like a 4chan shitposter would... It's entertainment not entirely serious news. They claimed to be attempting to move the Overton Window, either seriously or as a voice character. *shrug*

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 9:37 AM  

My guess is, the excitement of the election season caused him and his young LARPy followers to blow their load too early. The movement just needs to grow up and tighten its operation. Be professional.

This is correct.

If anything, this episode should show Richard and NPI that the 'big tent' approach doesn't work.

It depends what you mean by big tent. If you mean one big group, that's true. If you mean grand alliance, that's false.

While the general is "praise in public, criticize in private", there are errors so public that they must be addressed in public. That's why you should always think at least twice before you do anything the media is going to broadcast to the world.

I know what Richard's strategy was. It was a viable one in the 1970s and 1980s. It isn't any longer, because the media no longer controls access to the public.

Anonymous Ironsides November 24, 2016 9:37 AM  

Happy Thanksgiving, guys!

(And that is kind of a relief. On top of it, Trump's responses that you have there not only sound like he's only condemning Nazism, but he's barely interested in the entire thing and thinks that the reporter is making a mountain out of a molehill. "Boy, you really are into this stuff, huh?" is great. And I like Bard's comment that "Unknown" was Dr. Seuss. Kek.)

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey November 24, 2016 9:40 AM  

I know what Richard's strategy was. It was a viable one in the 1970s and 1980s. It isn't any longer, because the media no longer controls access to the public.

Agreed.

Blogger Lobo Util November 24, 2016 9:42 AM  

This comment has been removed by the author.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) November 24, 2016 9:44 AM  

31. Billy November 24, 2016 9:17 AM
I'm not going to disparage Germans or Nazism. I have English roots so no link to either.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists

formed in 1932 by Oswald Mosley, the father of the F1 guy.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey November 24, 2016 9:44 AM  

Roosh has never, ever been vilified by me

I like Roosh. I've supported him from day one and have taken shit online and irl for it.

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 9:44 AM  

Nonsense. Cernovivh turned on the Alt-Right when it suddenly dawned on him that Richard was getting more serious media attention than he was. Mike was jealous. That's what motivated his online meltdown the other day.

Seriously, you just need to stop talking about this, because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. That is almost insanely stupid and completely ignores everything Mike just wrote about in his bestselling book and everything he's been telling me since last year.

Mike is not at all envious of Richard. Mike knows, as do I, that Richard is operating on a completely outdated media model. Mike knows, as do I, that the mainstream media doesn't move the needle at all in terms of book sales, Twitter followers, blog traffic, or anything that matters to us.

You guys are so stupid that you STILL don't realize that chasing media attention is not only a complete waste of time, but one that is more likely to result in counterproductive consequences than anything positive. Why would anyone be jealous of a lose-neutral proposition? Your position doesn't even make sense.

1. Mike thinks the mainstream media is a potentially counterproductive waste of time.
2. Richard gets mainstream media attention.
3. Therefore, Mike is jealous of Richard.

Can you identify the flaw in the syllogism?

Blogger Lobo Util November 24, 2016 9:45 AM  

28.  Chris Mallory
"Sadly, Breitbart is still infested with hordes of "the Democrats are the real racist" conservatards."

Democrats are the party of racism. They feel blacks are incapable of getting ahead on their own initiative and merit. Democrats feel Hispanics cannot turn their own countries into civil societies. Democrats feel only whites can save the minorities, the minorities cannot save themselves.

Yes, I would say the Democrats are racists.

Blogger Chris Mallory November 24, 2016 9:46 AM  

Lobo Util wrote:Yes, I would say the Democrats are racists.

The only people who aren't "racist" are idiot whites afraid of being called names by the communists.

Minorities cannot save themselves. But that does not mean they should be in our country.

Blogger VD November 24, 2016 9:50 AM  

Agreed.

Then WHY would Mike be jealous of Richard? On what planet does that make sense? Does Richard have more traffic, more followers, more book sales, stronger allies, or more loyal followers? Not that I see.

Richard has one thing. More mainstream media attention. Which, as I've pointed out, Mike neither wants nor needs. And how has that attention worked out for Richard so far? Is he now closer or further from achieving his goal of establishing a well-regarded, well-funded think tank?

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir November 24, 2016 9:51 AM  

Unknown? Could it be Jared Kushner?

Blogger Matamoros November 24, 2016 9:53 AM  

Jim Stone has this about new attempt to steal the election - hope it isn't true:

THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF DENIAL AND IGNORING THE TOPIC THAT THERE IS EVEN A RECOUNT, AND THE ELECTION IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING STOLEN.

Why anyone in the alt media would ignore this is beyond comprehension, it is VERY REAL, 3 plus million dollars was raised in only 18 hours to pay for the recounts and accomplish the steal. EVERY DETAIL IS COVERED HERE, THIS REPORT IS WELL DEVELOPED, I got onto this within 10 minutes of it being official and have worked non stop. See the numerous reports and updates on this page.

JILL STEIN'S ELECTION RECOUNT IS BEING PAID FOR BY A BOT!

A bot is pulling cash from a central fund, and giving it out at a pre determined rate.
Go to Jill Stein's fundraiser page and watch the progress. You will see that her funding is coming in at a PERFECTLY CONSISTENT 160,000 an hour. I watched this yesterday and last night carefully, and noted that at night, when everyone is sleeping and right through the time when the whole world slows down, her donations for this came in like clockwork, with no deviation from the steady pace whatsoever.

The only way that can happen is if a bot was set up to fake her getting donations from multiple people, and whoever set it up did not consider the fact that practically everything would come from America, and practically everyone is asleep at 3AM. LAST NIGHT IT SHOULD HAVE SLOWED DOWN. IT DID NOT. IT JUST MARCHED RIGHT TOWARD THE FINISH LIKE AN OBEDIENT SOLDIER. It went straight to 2.65 million by six AM. I can calculate: IT WILL GO TO 4.5 MILLION IN 28.125 HOURS. Oh, a few people will pitch in for real, so I'll say 27 hours.

EASY MATH. JILL STEIN WILL GET THE 4.5 MILLION SHE NEEDS BETWEEN 4 AND SIX PM TONIGHT, DEPENDING UPON HOW MUCH REAL PEOPLE PITCH IN. Actual math progression based on the steady rate lands squarely on 6:10 PM tonight, but I am guessing a few real people will pay in.


Don't be fooled by the slick language on the donation page, if those donations did not virtually stop at night they are not coming from the American people.

Yes folks, we are watching the election steal as it happens. They could not do it by threatening electors, so now we have this. And it is all based on false claims, because Michigan CANNOT BE HACKED. Michigan has a CERTIFIED VOTE. There is NO WAY THIS IS LEGIT. And that means ONE THING - there are liars doing it, powerful liars who know in advance they are going to find what they are looking for.
Anonymous sent:

It's over, folks.
They are absolutely taking this from Trump. If you were able to see these stories they already have prepared for us to start running next week, your jaw would hit the ground.

They are going to "find" that the results were indeed "hacked". They have everything set in place, and have been ready to play this out for over a week.

All 3 states (Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania) are going to be reversed and awarded to Hillary Clinton. Speculate on who is pulling the strings, but this is going to happen.

Start preparing for the news to come, NOW.

Blogger Matamoros November 24, 2016 9:54 AM  

Continued:


My response: Michigan had all paper ballots and cannot be hacked. But that won't stop liars of the caliber we are up against. Michigan has a different vote counting process than other states. First, Michigan does a quick count. Then, automatically, they do a certified count. That count was certified today. It is an un-hackable process. If Hillary takes Michigan when Michigan can't be hacked, and the vote is certified, it will prove fraud of the highest order.

Pukable swiss commentator ripping Trump on Mex TV at 1AM. Good time slot.

FINAL ANSWER: BULLYING ELECTORS WITH DEATH THREATS DID NOT WORK, SO NOW THEY ARE GOING TO FORCE A RECOUNT ONLY IN STATES TRUMP WON. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS. WE NEED EVERYONE POSSIBLE TO GET OFF WORK AND BE THERE TO WITNESS THE RECOUNT. WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY?

JILL STEIN RAISED ENOUGH MONEY TO STEAL THE ELECTION FROM TRUMP VIA "RECOUNT" IN ONLY 5 HOURS.

She raised enough to trigger a recount in Wisconsin, and the other two states are cheaper. She's got it.
Trump may have taken Michigan today, but that will not make a difference. Jill Stein demanded a recount, and the election WILL be rigged.

They have had ALL THE TIME they need to fill out a whole bunch of blank ballots and throw the election to Hillary. No one was watching. It happened, GAME OVER. All 3 states, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will be thrown to Hillary. IT IS OVER.
So that is how they planned to steal it all along, since election day at least. And Hillary can skate free, saying I DID NOT DO IT, when you know DAMN WELL she did.

Every last request Jill Stein has will be answered, and every last request Trump asks for will be denied. There will be absolutely nothing that can be done to stop it, because they would not have done this unless they knew for certain they had it in the bag.

Details:

They had a bunch of fake computer consultants state there were voting anomalies in favor of Trump, and that they proved Russia rigged the vote. On these grounds, green party candidate Jill Stein called for a recount, and was handed all the money she needed to do it in a single day. In the background, leading up to this, (obviously) they wrote in a huge number of fake ballots for Hillary. The recount will discover all these new votes for Hillary, and she's going in. AT A BARE MINIMUM, THEY WILL APPOINT SOMEONE OTHER THAN TRUMP. They would not be doing this unless they knew they had it in the bag.
They are saying the election was hacked, when Pennsylvania does not even have a way to hack it. They are BRAZENLY lying about everything. The MSM is backing them up, and Google is destroying dissent. And ALL the comment sections are open for a change, with 100 percent trollage in favor of it, (or when real opinion is allowed, they have it perfectly answered and bashed into the ground.)

This is such a brazen steal they would not even think of doing it unless they KNEW FOR SURE they have it in the bag.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 24, 2016 9:55 AM  

you STILL don't realize that chasing media attention is not only a complete waste of time, but one that is more likely to result in counterproductive consequences than anything positive.

Exactly. This showing up at craps game when you know the dice the are crooked.

The thing is that this craps game used to be the only game in town and the pit boss insists that it still is.

But it ain't anymore and the sad thing is that the guys who are getting fleeced actually know this.

Blogger Duke Norfolk November 24, 2016 9:59 AM  

I like this piece by Colin Liddell on the issue:

http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2016/11/failure-at-gates-of-victory.html#more

Blogger William Hudson November 24, 2016 10:01 AM  

Jim Stone says that Jill Stein was just given many millions to pay for a "recount" in three states that will be lied about for Hillary to steal OUR White House. What say you deplorables? Not trolling here - I read Jim Stone regularly, and he seems to know "stuff".

http://82.221.129.208/baasepagea8.html

Blogger William Hudson November 24, 2016 10:02 AM  

Aww, Jeez! I shoulda read ALL the comments first! Sorry :(

Anonymous Ironsides November 24, 2016 10:03 AM  

Just for a little light entertainment, here are some allegedly adult leftists in Norway screaming exactly like brats having a temper tantrum after not getting their way, over matters relating to immigration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSCXFJJ_zGk

And to the guy up above: I am a racist. Googles can't hack it on their own in a white society; the kraal and the cattle herd were the peak of their natively produced society, and that is what they are mentally capable of maintaining. The aztecs can't make a civil society. The error of the leftists is in thinking you can do anything about this. All you can do, by importing them, is to drag white culture down towards their level, which is precisely what's happening.

Blogger The Other Robot November 24, 2016 10:05 AM  

Meanwhile Al Qaeda wants to use immigration to defeat the US

That is something Trump needs to fix!

Blogger Wanderer November 24, 2016 10:10 AM  

Wouldn't a recount show how the democrats cheated? I fail to see how a recount helps them unless they cheat the recount as well.

Blogger Shimshon November 24, 2016 10:12 AM  

Matamoros, I'd say this sounds like trolling, but if it isn't...If the Dems couldn't turn 500 (or was it 1500?) votes in a single state in 2000, they are not going to succeed in three states with far bigger spreads today. Won't happen. In other words, calm down son.

Blogger L' Aristokrato November 24, 2016 10:12 AM  

Regardless, we need to collectively act smarter.
Spencer did something stupid; The way Cernovich called him on it was stupid and needlessly confrontational; The way some prople reacted to Cernovich calling Spencer out was stupid and needlessly divisive.....
I mean, Goddamn! Can we please look at the bigger picture?!
Once we have the heads of Soros and his ilk on pikes, we can go back to fighting each other all you want.

Blogger CynicalMan November 24, 2016 10:14 AM  

Trump is a nationalist, so he does not disavow nationalism.

Trump is not a socialist so he disavows socialism.

Trump is not a German, but he does not care if you are so he does not disavow Germans.

Trump is a worker and he employs many workers, so he does not disavow workers.

Trump is not what I would call a Party man and does not put Party before country, so I would say he disavows Party.

So Trump disavows those parts of Nazism that should be disavowed (socialist, party) and does not disavow those parts that should not be disavowed (nationalism, workers, Germans).

Looks to me like Trump is on the right side of history.

Blogger OGRE November 24, 2016 10:16 AM  

I've heard the word "disavow" 1000 times more in the past three months than I have in my entire lifetime.

If I hear "disavow" or "literally" just once more, then I am going to figuratively start smashing skulls and stuffing onions in the empty eye sockets.

Blogger Basil Makedon November 24, 2016 10:19 AM  

I disavow all of you.

Anonymous Ironsides November 24, 2016 10:20 AM  

I have my doubts about the recount also. Additionally, if it was a real thing and a threat, wouldn't the God-Emperor make some kind of statement through social media, since he's already bypassing traditional media?

Blogger Cail Corishev November 24, 2016 10:20 AM  

@52, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm ignoring it because it it's true and IT IS OVER, there's nothing I can do about it, so why get excited?

Besides, if you've been reading here a while and take the longer view, you'd know that a blatant theft of the election would be a win for our side in the long run.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 24, 2016 10:22 AM  

These were the same dolts who pushed Trump as opposition since they thought he was an easy beat. They are done. Just chill, people.

Blogger William Hudson November 24, 2016 10:26 AM  

@Corishev
Since I take the Extremely Long View of Immortality & Eternity (either in Heaven or Hell), I must reluctantly agree with you.

Blogger justaguy November 24, 2016 10:27 AM  

ALt-Right, Alt-White, Alt- West, Alt-Civilization, Alt- Christian....so many different choices and views, all different than the official National Review approved conservative theology. So the NYT and Mainstream (lamestream?) media takes the most extreme cases and then try to apply them to all of their opponents--- This is the normal for the NYT. At least the God-Emperor Ascendant's disavowal of some group celebrating nazism cut this off.

So not even 200 people who are fanatically alt-white meet in DC, and suddenly the entire Republican Party and the 60 million or so who voted for Trump want to start up concentration camps? Who actually follows this absurdity anymore?

Blogger Jack Ward November 24, 2016 10:28 AM  

#52 and 53. If Jim Stone is correct and the election is stolen from Trump it might well trigger civil war. The expectation of at least some hope the system can be corrected has become too widespread for anything else to happen. If hitbot hillary gets in via such a fraud Russia alone might support, fund and equip 4gw war in America. If I were Putin I would. That, rather than irradiate the planet.

Blogger The Reactionary November 24, 2016 10:30 AM  

Spencer is exulting in the media attention. He sees all this as a positive good. For him there is nothing to learn from this that needs to be different.

Blogger Bodo Staron November 24, 2016 10:30 AM  

VD wrote:

It is what it is. One hopes he will learn from them rather than double down.


I'm afraid he already did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr5BQS79H7g&t=1s

This performance is cringe worthy on so many levels. He has maybe one or two good moments, but the rest is just bad.


VD you and Mike are so right. I try to influence and get it out of the head of AfD people here that they "need" the MSM. They get burned EVERY time but still invite them in.

Blogger Dirtnapninja November 24, 2016 10:35 AM  

Insurgencies consist of three phases.

1) building and harassment
2) engagement and expansion
3) Invasion of the enemies spaces.

Like any Insurgency, sometimes you are knocked down a phase. This incident knocked us down a phase. Make no mistake, it is a serious blow..but not nearly a fatal one. We have to put it behind us and work harder and meme meme meme.

NPIs problem is that it is institutionalized. Mr. Spencer wants to be considered respectable, and so he courts the media. But we cannot do that. The media is the enemy, and when you court them, you are courting the enemy and fighting on their battlefield.

Our goal must be to change the culture..and that means we do not institutionalize. That means no organised think tanks, no leaders, no real hierarchy. We subvert, we infiltrate, we use..we do not organize. We hide in plain sight and we march separately, but we punch left always.

If we are successful, our ideals will be implanted naturally and organically into the culture at large, and then politics will reinforce our narrative. At this point, the terms of respectability will allow a new establishment which reflects our ideals.

Blogger praetorian November 24, 2016 10:36 AM  

Aw, man. I wanted to go back, to the year 1989 when Richard Spencer and his nazi regime enslaved America and tried to take over the world...

Until an even greater force emerged, the U.N. and the U.N. un-nazied the world - forever.

Stupid Un.

Blogger JWM in SD November 24, 2016 10:40 AM  

A contested election would still have to go to the House of Representatives for resolution would it not? I'm not seeing much about this other than on CNN and almost no Alt Media sites. It is a little spooky to be honest.

Anonymous Millenium November 24, 2016 10:40 AM  

OT, a a bit of humor; someone from /pol/ trolling the media:

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/7990e4e24db6dce5c97d15de071e0fb517107885e0553b0dcc956a74af3b1ce0.jpg

Blogger Nate November 24, 2016 10:47 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr5BQS79H7g&t=1s

Can someone explain to spencer that he isn't milo.

Someone.

Anyone.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling November 24, 2016 10:49 AM  

@61 Shimshon:

Matamoros, I'd say this sounds like trolling, but if it isn't...If the Dems couldn't turn 500 (or was it 1500?) votes in a single state in 2000, they are not going to succeed in three states with far bigger spreads today. Won't happen. In other words, calm down son.

Yes, the claims "it's all over" are severely overwrought. And here are, from Wikipedia, the vote differences that would have to be overcome for each of those 3 states, followed by the number of electoral votes at stake, lowest to highest:

Michigan: 10,704, 16
Wisconsin: 27,506, 10
Pennsylvania: 57,588, 20

Which means the people engineering this would have to succeed with every one of those three states. And when the nation would be looking a lot more closely than when the DFL swung the recount in Al Franken's favor by barely over 200 votes.

Is this something to be concerned about? Perhaps. Panicked, "it's all over!", nope.

Blogger MycroftJones November 24, 2016 10:49 AM  

When do you call it "Agree and Amplify", and when do you call it "Doubling Down"? What is the dividing line? Agree and Amplify is alpha; Doubling Down is gamma. Behaviorally, they are the same. Functionally, they are polar opposites.

Blogger Lazarus November 24, 2016 10:52 AM  

Matamoros wrote:This is such a brazen steal they would not even think of doing it unless they KNEW FOR SURE they have it in the bag.

Happy thanksgiving! Are you ready for some football??

Blogger The Bechtloff November 24, 2016 10:54 AM  

This comment sums it up perfectly.

Blogger Nate November 24, 2016 10:56 AM  

"When do you call it "Agree and Amplify", and when do you call it "Doubling Down"? "

Agree and Amplify is a black knighting technique. Do you see anyone black knighting?

Blogger Nate November 24, 2016 10:59 AM  

"
This is such a brazen steal they would not even think of doing it unless they KNEW FOR SURE they have it in the bag."

Jesus...

You people have lost so much you cannot even fathom winning.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling November 24, 2016 11:00 AM  

@76 JWM in SD:

A contested election would still have to go to the House of Representatives for resolution would it not? I'm not seeing much about this other than on CNN and almost no Alt Media sites. It is a little spooky to be honest.

It's Thanksgiving, lots of people have other stuff on their minds, like stuffing.

As for it going to the House in that way, only if the Electors don't vote one candidate a majority.

Although, the Congress could play games in the counting of the Electors' votes, we've thrown out so much else of the Constitution, why not more? But I can't see the GOP establishment doing this to put Trump in the White House.

Blogger kmbr November 24, 2016 11:04 AM  

I watched Spencer's interview on Red Ice and I thought it was graceful, calm, well reasoned.

Then I saw he was granting more interviews to the l-press.

Is it just ego?

I mostly like Spencer, think he's a smart guy but he's always been a bit pretentious for my tastes.

Blogger MycroftJones November 24, 2016 11:05 AM  

Not just losing, Nate. Being tricked into thinking we're winning... then having victory taken away at the last minute. Pursuing every avenue, and having it turn into a blind alley. Hope after hope, crushed. Sadistic mind games. Relax; once the victory is well and truly TASTED, then it is believed. Let Trump be sworn into office on live TV; then we believe. Until then, the war is still to be fought. We fight because there is nowhere to run, nowhere to flee, and no alternative.

Anonymous Ironsides November 24, 2016 11:12 AM  

MycroftJones wrote:Not just losing, Nate. Being tricked into thinking we're winning... then having victory taken away at the last minute. Pursuing every avenue, and having it turn into a blind alley. Hope after hope, crushed. Sadistic mind games. Relax; once the victory is well and truly TASTED, then it is believed. Let Trump be sworn into office on live TV; then we believe. Until then, the war is still to be fought. We fight because there is nowhere to run, nowhere to flee, and no alternative.

Exactly. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 150 million times using the most underhanded, vile tactics, and I treat everything with glaring suspicion until it's actually proven real.

Mind you,it seems unlikely that they'll manage it even if they're thinking about it. But it's certainly understandable that people would be alarmed about it after decades of leftist treachery and sliminess.

Blogger Lazarus November 24, 2016 11:28 AM  

MycroftJones wrote:Not just losing, Nate. Being tricked into thinking we're winning... then having victory taken away at the last minute.

Look on the bright side. If it actually happens, you won't have to wait until 2033 for the collapse. I might actually be around to experience it.

Notice I did not say "enjoy it".

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 24, 2016 11:35 AM  

As for NPI, Spencer's dumbass gandstand has other speakers there pissed off too, like VDARE's Brimelow - who's been fighting this battle since Spencer was in diapers. All the good points riased were overshadowed by Spencer's failure to understand the essential nature of the (((media))).

This all being said, why is it that antifas waving hammer and sickles outside - who actually physically assaulted people as DC officer dindu looked on - perfectly OK for "public discourse" and a Nazi salute beyond the pale? The hammer and sickle folks and their (((media))) allies have considerably more blood on their hands than any silly Nazi-boy wannabes. All too advanced for the mouth-breathers who still think the (((media))) is anything other than lies, I suppose.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable November 24, 2016 11:41 AM  

When do you call it "Agree and Amplify", and when do you call it "Doubling Down"?

They are two totally different things:

"Agree and Amplify" is when somebody else takes a stupid position and you pretend to be on their side by taking their idea and running with it to extremes.

"Doubling Down" is you sticking to your guns when your own position is attacked.

Anonymous Eric the Red November 24, 2016 11:46 AM  

Instead of two ((alt-white)) pretenders plus a silicone sugar-tits, if only Spencer had done the following...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmYIo7bcUw

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 24, 2016 11:48 AM  

But but but!

Richard Spencer came up with the term "Alt-right"!

That makes him Der leader!


Colin Liddell makes the claim too (though not in German). Spencer's old website from 2009 was called "Alternative Right". Liddell was one of the original writers there (among others). Spencer shut down the site in 2012 or 13 and Liddell went off and started his own blog with the name while Spencer's site became "Radix". The Alt-Right has no leader, which is a good thing.

Blogger pyrrhus November 24, 2016 11:51 AM  

Meanwhile, the left never rests....http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-24/jill-stein-raises-enough-money-force-wisconsin-recount-michigan-pennsylvania-next

Blogger Open Carry November 24, 2016 11:55 AM  

That Would Be Telling wrote:Which means the people engineering this would have to succeed with every one of those three states.

I wonder if Stein even has standing to be granted a recount, given at least a 40% gap in votes separating her from the top two candidates in each of the disputed states. That would depend on the election laws in WI, PA, and MI.

Trump's campaign must surely be watching this too - they seem to have been rather quiet about it so far.

Anonymous Ironsides November 24, 2016 11:59 AM  

According to one source (of somewhat dubious reliability) they recounted in Michigan already and Trump still won.

Anonymous BGKB November 24, 2016 12:00 PM  

Just like when Gentle Mike Brown was shot for no reason on his way to church which was the Carlos Slim & 5 jews media narrative even a week after the video of him beating up a little Asian liquor store clerk 10 min before he was shot got released.

AMOUNT OF DENIAL AND IGNORING THE TOPIC THAT THERE IS EVEN A RECOUNT, AND THE ELECTION IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING STOLEN

We have talked about this before, if they want to see real Nazis let them try to steal it. HilLIARy doesn't even have more than 1/2 of the number of illegals found to have voted in 2012 as a lead in the popular. Threatening electors to the point they turn will lead to local politicians being killed. There is enough proof of leftist voter fraud & enough people have seen it that they are practically begging for the lights to go out in every die verse city.

If hitbot hillary gets in via such a fraud Russia alone might support, fund and equip 4gw war in America. If I were Putin I would

Dear Russia please send full auto AK-47s and a pile of spam cans of ammo to the following address.

I disavow all of you. I disavow the (((lizard))) men with PPs smaller than my thumb.

OT, a a bit of humor; someone from /pol/ trolling the media:

Actually that's a real lesbian pretending to be moslem. Speaking of bad narratives its bad enough guns animate & sneak out of their safes to go stalk kindergartens, but now 15yo boys prey on innocent older men exploiting them for money and drugs http://www.towleroad.com/2016/11/murder-grindr/

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 24, 2016 12:07 PM  

Nate wrote:

Can someone explain to spencer that he isn't milo.

Someone.

Anyone.


If Spencer had any sense, he'd hire Milo as NPI's press secretary and leave all (((media))) inquiries to him. If NPI can't afford Milo, they should create a Pepe the Frog bot to deal with all (((media))) inquiries. The (((media))) being what they are - folks who suffer from nothing that couldn't be remedied by a good whiff of Zyklon-B - a cartoon figure is the olny thing that should be allowed to talk with them.

Anonymous Mycroft Jones November 24, 2016 12:08 PM  

Never underestimate a cornered rat. Pizza gate is something the pedocracy can't risk.

Anonymous BGKB November 24, 2016 12:16 PM  

Never underestimate a cornered rat. Pizza gate is something the pedocracy can't risk.

Guildmaster: A Secret Report within the Guild. Four Planets have come to our attention regarding a plot which could jeopardise Spice Production: Planet Epstein , Source of the Haitian Cheese. Planet Altright, home of House TRUMP. Planet Arkancide Prime, home of House Clinton. Planet SOROS, Home of the Emperor of the Known Universe. Send a third-stage Guild Navigator to Kaitain to demand details from the Emperor. The Haitian Cheese must flow.

Anonymous rien November 24, 2016 12:39 PM  

He should have added: "and I also disavow cultural marxism"

Anonymous Wyrd November 24, 2016 12:43 PM  

@BGKB et al.

I'm currently rereading the Dune series (almost finished with Children of Dune). Y'all's Dune references are killing(-word) me.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 1:00 PM  

It doesn't matter that the Communists killed more.

At this point expecting the MSM to be honest on that account verges on autism.

I watched Spencer's half hour interview with angry black man. If Richard can't even handle that intellectual lightweight he has no business talking to any media.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 1:03 PM  

Nate you're 100% correct.

The fact that anyone is taking this seriously is SMH depressing.

Blogger Кирилл Красильников November 24, 2016 1:10 PM  

Why would anyone want to fash anyway? Hitler started a war in which so many whites were killed, not to mention discrediting the Right for generation, not to mention providing a justification for the Lefts's war on genetics. I can understand that some people hate leftists so much that everything the Left hates=good, but it is not a healthy thinking, it's a knee-jerking.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 1:18 PM  

Milo fills auditoriums on college campuses. Mike gets half a hundred people every time he does a speaking tour.

These guys got 200 Larpers off the internet for a day.

Yet because the media saw them as an obvious way to try and whack Trump and published their meeting all over the Western world they think they achieved something.

Spencer managed to take over the term "Alt-right" (it was his invention damnit!) By helping the left make the term synonymous with nazism.

Well done guys you f##king idiots.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 1:25 PM  

A lot of the identification with fascism seems to be similar to punks wearing swastikas.

As in "F*ck you I won't do what you tell me!"

I can understand that.

Anonymous Francois November 24, 2016 1:41 PM  

"“I don’t want to energize the group, and I disavow the group,” Trump said. “It’s not a group I want to energize. And if they are energized I want to look into it and find out why.”

It doesn't sound like support. It sounds like condemnation.

Either way, it don't matter. Donald Trump is going to disappoint the neo Nazis, the White Nationalists, the Alt Right, the Alt White, etc.

This disappointment will be a result of Trump being denied the ability to get anything done without consent of those who absolutely opposed the above groups and ideology.

It will be fascinating to see how Trump deals with the disappointment of not being able to do as he likes.

Blogger The Other Robot November 24, 2016 1:42 PM  

A guy who was caught sending dick pics to women tells us that there are links between the Russia and Trump.

Blogger The Other Robot November 24, 2016 1:44 PM  

@108: He already seems to be getting stuff done and he has not been inaugurated.

I think it will be more fascinating to see how people like you deal with the failure of your predictions.

Blogger Kristophr November 24, 2016 1:50 PM  

The left in America needs to disavow Nazi-ism.

SJWs are some of the most bigoted people on the planet. The KKK was originally created as their militant arm. Just watch them confront a black Republican. They are also just as socalist as the NSDAP.

Anonymous Ironsides November 24, 2016 1:54 PM  

Why is Francois still here? He/she/xhe/it is like a walking case of troll flu, trollbonic plague, and trollblains, combined with a 20 pound sack of rotting crap.

Blogger Kristophr November 24, 2016 1:54 PM  

105 "... not to mention discrediting the Right for generation ..."

The Nazis were all socialists. Goebbels was whining in memos about the tax rate not being Progressive enough ( his own words ) while Zhokov had Berlin surrounded. Goering bragged about executing Germans for trying to flee with assets during Nuremberg.

The NSDAP really meant the socialist part of their org's name. They discredited the Left. But we allowed the left to blame another fucking socialist on us.

Anonymous Wyrd November 24, 2016 1:56 PM  

The left in America needs to disavow Nazi-ism.

I would settle for no more Hitler programs on The History Channel. How about a show about Lenin? Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? Lots more genocide pr0n there, fellas.

Anonymous John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project November 24, 2016 1:57 PM  

"Guildmaster: A Secret Report within the Guild. . . ."

Damn you, you clever right-wing homosexual! I have a lawn to care for! And a daughter who needs more protein shakes!!

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen November 24, 2016 2:04 PM  

> And a daughter who needs more protein shakes!!

Too soon.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 24, 2016 2:23 PM  


Too soon.


The protein must flow.

Anonymous JAMES November 24, 2016 2:35 PM  

Don't be silly.

He'll just deny he ever made them.

Blogger Кирилл Красильников November 24, 2016 2:37 PM  

Nazi in many ways escape easy definition. They did have socialism in their name, but international brotherhood of working man, for example, was the least of their concerns. It doesn't matter anyway, because their insistence on Volk and national pride allows leftists portray anyone who is not on board with their globalist agenda as a Nazi. It is unfair, but that's how it is, and Hitler provided them ammunition just like Spencer did, so complaining about "liberals being real nazis because nazis are leftists" is useless, because they will not give up such effective cudgel, just don't give them anything, like Vox said.

Blogger Кирилл Красильников November 24, 2016 2:52 PM  

Hey, I like RATM as much as the next guy( but so does Paul Ryan so this bar is quite low). Still, wanting to influence politics( Spencer's declared goal) means that you have to act like adult and know which lines you can cross and which not. After all, it is one thing to épater la bourgeoisie for shits and giggles, but trying to play the game is quite another.

Anonymous Wyrd November 24, 2016 3:10 PM  

The protein must flow.

https://youtu.be/lsVONO75utI?t=298

Anonymous Francois November 24, 2016 4:36 PM  

"Nazi in many ways escape easy definition. They did have socialism in their name, but international brotherhood of working man, for example, was the least of their concerns."

You are overthinking it. In America, when "nazis" are invoked it's a reference to anti-semitism, bigotry and White Supremacy. It's pretty simple.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 24, 2016 4:55 PM  

When do you call it "Agree and Amplify", and when do you call it "Doubling Down"? What is the dividing line? Agree and Amplify is alpha; Doubling Down is gamma. Behaviorally, they are the same. Functionally, they are polar opposites.

"Agree & Amplify" is when you do the social judo of taking an attempted put-down to such an absurd extreme that people can't help but laugh. (Gammas should not even attempt it, because they would do it wrong and make things worse for themselves.)

"Doubling Down" is sheer mule-headedness, insisting that you're right in the face of evidence that you're wrong.

The dividing line is whether you're responding to an attempted put-down with even better rhetoric, or responding to legitimate criticism -- say, of your tendency toward lying insults -- by digging in your heels and writing a thousand-word explainer of why what you did was right, and also your critic is a racist sexist homophobic poopyhead.

Yes.

No. It's the difference between a quip and a rant.

Yes. It's the difference between aikido and sumo.

Anonymous Anonymous November 24, 2016 5:02 PM  

Recall that Vegas Macao Casino Pimp Sheldon Adelson, a vice merchant, and his Israeli wife, tried several times to back a Republican winner for the White House finally achieving victory in his 25$M backing of Trump. Adelson's program is social liberalism (selling vice ), and support for Likud's aims of a greater Israel. Recall Trump has several close business contacts partners in the field of Israeli organized crime , began his career in Atlantic City-Vegas. His closest business and political partners are aligned with Adelson's goals including his son in law Kushner the scion of a degenerate criminal enterprise family. All of Trump's grandchildren are hostile to Christianity because of their religious faith.

American renaissance began with funding under the Charles Martell society an anti_Islamic umbrella group that included Kevin MacDonald. Its first meeting included rabbis as speakers and they served a kosher lunch to yeshiva students in attendance.


Jump forward, and It may be now argued that the United States has reached 'Peak J_w' -- the transnational criminal network has never achieved such close access and policy convergence with the same network. The Nazi trolls functioned as smoke to disguise this achievement, and the liberal JWs have been chastened for their ack of support for this network's tribal nationalism and expansionism.

AltRight ethno-nationalism is basically zionism for the goyim/ Anyone who deviates from this with a critique of social libertarianism ( Milo) or of economic libertarianism ( usury) , of of full Zionism per se, will be banished or prosecuted by the money and people behind Spencer's Godfather Paul Gottfried. As Gottfried put it, White Nationalism is good for the JWs.

AltRight is then, always has been, and will remain a Jewish intellectual movement.









Blogger Lazarus November 24, 2016 6:28 PM  

Francois wrote:You are overthinking it. In America, when "nazis" are invoked it's a reference to anti-semitism, bigotry and White Supremacy. It's pretty simple.

Oh, I see, you mean like leftist icon FDR.

Blogger Lazarus November 24, 2016 6:34 PM  

Speaking of anti-semites, I just read that emocratic Congressman and candidate for the next DNC chief Keith Ellison canceled an interview with The New York Times Tuesday after learning they planned to ask about his ties to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

Farrakhan is a rabid anti-Semite, has accused Jews of being behind 9/11 and the slave trade, and once said that God was the one who “put them in the oven.”

Blogger haus frau November 24, 2016 8:20 PM  

"has accused Jews of being behind 9/11 and the slave trade"
far be it from me to side with a muslim ......but.....

Anonymous Discard November 25, 2016 12:23 AM  

Farrakhan is an enemy I can respect. He despises White SJW hypocrites. He knows that they only want oreos in their neighborhoods, and not too many of them.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 25, 2016 12:22 PM  

haus frau wrote:"has accused Jews of being behind 9/11 and the slave trade"

far be it from me to side with a muslim ......but.....


Broken clock .... twice a day.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot November 27, 2016 5:51 PM  

"... has literally nothing to do with everyone who doesn't wear swastika panties ..."

There's some Japanese anime like that if you're curious ...

Just ask for Miss Gestapokko, you'll know when you find her. :-)

Post a Comment

Rules of the blog
Please do not comment as "Anonymous". Comments by "Anonymous" will be spammed.

<< Home

Newer Posts Older Posts