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Thursday, November 03, 2016

Pax trolls a "presidential candidate"

Pax Dickinson ♔ ‏@paxdickinson
what will the name of the Mormon genocide be?

15% Mormocaust
17% Mormodomor
42% Mormogeddon
26% Mormopalooza

Evan McMullin ‏@Evan_McMullin
This goes beyond mere rhetoric.  It is another threat of violence by the bigoted movement @realDonaldTrump has inspired in America.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
@Evan_McMullin You're scared of @realDonaldTrump, so Americans should expect you to stand up to ISIS and Vladimir Putin? Does not compute.

Of course, Egghead McMormon is about as legitimate a presidential candidate as he is straight. What a pathetic, limp-wristed little dishrag of a man. I am a little disappointed in Pax, though. Or at least his followers. I would have gone with Mormodomor.

As for Mormons, I have nothing against them beyond their clueless cuckiness. They can wear whatever underwear and dream of ruling whatever imaginary planets they like as far as I'm concerned. Some of my ancestors cut out human hearts and flayed people as part of their religious ceremonies, so I'm not inclined to throw many stones in that regard. But if they somehow manage hand the USA over to Hillary Clinton, I most certainly will. One can excuse them sticking Americans with four years of Obama; it's not their fault Captain Underoos was a feckless loser and one has to excuse a group for standing by one of their own.

But to then turn around and try to stab the God-Emperor in the back as he ascends? No, there will be no forgiveness for that. Fortunately, I am confident that Trump will not only win Utah, he won't even need Utah's electoral points.

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Blogger Wanderer November 03, 2016 4:08 PM  

The best way to troll mormons:

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
-Galatians 1:8

Blogger Jakeithus November 03, 2016 4:10 PM  

Mormodomor is clearly the best option. My only thought is respondents are generally ignorant of history.

Blogger Bard November 03, 2016 4:11 PM  

Or, give them a giant wedge with their CPT Amormica Underoos when they show up at your front door.

Blogger Zaklog the Great November 03, 2016 4:15 PM  

I must confess, if Hillary Clinton is elected president, and it's anywhere near close, I will have a very difficult time forgiving some of my "principled" conservative friends who are talking about (or already have) voting third party.

Anonymous WinstonWebb November 03, 2016 4:17 PM  

Ask him why there are no black Mormon priests. Then savor the scent of hamster flambé as it runs itself to death.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 03, 2016 4:18 PM  

McMullin has no sense of humor. The obvious name for the Mormon genocide is, "We're going to need more ammo to shoot the non-Mormons."

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 03, 2016 4:19 PM  

Trump is up 6-12% in Utah in the latest polls. The irrelevance of Kristol, Erickson, etc. is complete.

Blogger Ransom Smith November 03, 2016 4:19 PM  

I voted in that poll. Will admit to having chosen Mormonpolooza

OpenID vfmshadow0342 November 03, 2016 4:24 PM  

@4:

The forgiveness part is pretty easy.

Regardless of outcome, however, I will never have respect for 'principled conservatives' and most pro-life groups until they repent of their moral hypocrisy in public.


Anonymous ticticboom November 03, 2016 4:24 PM  

"Some of my ancestors cut out human hearts and flayed people as part of their religious ceremonies, so I'm not inclined to throw many stones in that regard."

But enough about the Celts...

Blogger Dexter November 03, 2016 4:28 PM  

Needs to be a post-apocalypse novel in which the sole survivor of the Mormodomor is a guy like Hodor except his name is Mormodomor and all he ever says is "Mormodomor!"

Anonymous 11B November 03, 2016 4:28 PM  

Trump is up 6-12% in Utah in the latest polls. The irrelevance of Kristol, Erickson, etc. is complete.

I hope this poll is accurate. Anyone here from Utah who can give us a sense of how things are going?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 03, 2016 4:30 PM  

Like trollolng goldfish in a barrel. Wish I'd known about the poll.

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Anonymous JI November 03, 2016 4:31 PM  

I live in Utah, have plenty of good Mormon acquaintances, so this election is very frustrating for me. I think what's going on is the LDS Church must feel threatened by Trump in some way, and, although it has not told its members for whom they should vote, the feelings of the Church are communicated through cultural osmosis, pheromones, whatever, and the people obey.

Blogger lowercaseb November 03, 2016 4:31 PM  

I've always prefered Latter Day Martyrs...

It's a shame. I have a lot of relatives that are converts... they have no interest in listening to reason.

That said, I want to see a L. Ron Hubbard/Joseph Smith cagematch smackdown to see who is the best SciFi writer.

Blogger Chris Mallory November 03, 2016 4:32 PM  

From the Urban Dictionary: palooza- The art of throwing a very drunken extravagant party with a plethora of friends.

If the genocide of Mormons isn't an excuse for a drunken party, I don't know what is. Mormopalooza for the win!

Anonymous assessor November 03, 2016 4:34 PM  

This election is one of those sorting events where one looks around and observes who are enemies, who are friends, and who are rabbits. If the Mormons stand with Clinton, the feminist vanguard of anti-white-genocidal globalism, then they get reclassified as one of the many variations in the category of 'foreigners with papers'.

Blogger tz November 03, 2016 4:35 PM  

Mountain Meadows Massacre - repeat.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 03, 2016 4:38 PM  

For what it is worth, some of the Mormons I know are not just nice to the point of being painfully nice, they are also extreme White Knights. Like the nice white people of the upper midwest, they a natural targets for the Clintonbots and the Cuckservatiive line that Trump is Not Nice.

Anyone who is so much of a White Knight as to take Hillary Rodan Robot's side because "mean man called her nasty" is possibly so stupid as to require a breathing coach. "In, out, in, out".

Blogger VD November 03, 2016 4:38 PM  

This election is one of those sorting events where one looks around and observes who are enemies, who are friends, and who are rabbits. If the Mormons stand with Clinton, the feminist vanguard of anti-white-genocidal globalism, then they get reclassified as one of the many variations in the category of 'foreigners with papers'.

Exactly. Nationalists don't care why, they only care with whom you stand.

Blogger Orville November 03, 2016 4:39 PM  

Mormon pheromones? Is that made from the glands of McMuffin? Oh wait, he hasn't any.

Anonymous joke10 November 03, 2016 4:39 PM  

How about this one : Mordor

Anonymous WinstonWebb November 03, 2016 4:40 PM  

More trollolly goodness:

alt-Right trolls Politico; punks them into running bogus article

Blogger VFM #7634 November 03, 2016 4:42 PM  

I think what's going on is the LDS Church must feel threatened by Trump in some way

@14 JI
Their religion is an anti-Christian secret society with Christian trappings, and Trump is threatening to upend the current world order that these secret societies have been working toward for centuries.

Trump is an attack on their real religious beliefs in the same way Hillary is on Christians'.

Blogger pyrrhus November 03, 2016 4:43 PM  

Mormotoast?

Blogger Bill November 03, 2016 4:45 PM  

Shouldn't it have been;
"what will the name of the next Mormon genocide be?"

Blogger Sean November 03, 2016 4:47 PM  

It's more a Utah Mormon thing. All my fellow Az Mormons are blasting the Utah folks for their support for McMuffin. I have full confidence they will pull the lever for Trump when they enter the voting booth. No need for the Mormopocolypse.

Anonymous Casey November 03, 2016 4:48 PM  

Mormonism is a cult with a book that was dictated by a seer stone which was placed in a hat and held up to the face of Joseph Smith.

The whole "put on" is either Satanic or it's a con job.

Take your pick.

I'll say it's Satanic.

Blogger pyrrhus November 03, 2016 4:48 PM  

@18 Mountain Meadows Massacre - repeat.
Heh, karmic....
Mountain Meadows also contains the life and death lesson--don't ever give up your weapons, or you will be massacred with them.

Blogger tz November 03, 2016 4:50 PM  

@14
The problem with Mormons is that they put too much stock in personal external righteousness, instead of what the same person does externally.

So a "nice" fellow LDS church member will be considered for some business or even city transaction (called corruption or cronyism) over someone who is better, cheaper, and faster, but not LDS.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair November 03, 2016 4:53 PM  

Lol @ Mormomodor.

@19 I can't speak for Ohio but here in Indiana it's nearly all Trump.

How did McMullan ever survive as a CIA core collector? Seriously, say the right anti-American thing and he'd probably be triggered enough into blowing his cover,

Blogger Noah B November 03, 2016 4:54 PM  

The people have spoken. Mormogeddon it is.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 4:56 PM  

mormoghazi

Anonymous Ras al Ghul November 03, 2016 4:56 PM  

Mormerdamerung

Anonymous WinstonWebb November 03, 2016 4:59 PM  

Mormnarok?

Blogger praetorian November 03, 2016 5:01 PM  

[sobs uncontrollably]

Anonymous Utah4Trump November 03, 2016 5:02 PM  

There are black Mormon priests. I know at least 4 personally

Blogger Ezekiel November 03, 2016 5:03 PM  

JI wrote:I live in Utah, have plenty of good Mormon acquaintances, so this election is very frustrating for me. I think what's going on is the LDS Church must feel threatened by Trump in some way, and, although it has not told its members for whom they should vote, the feelings of the Church are communicated through cultural osmosis, pheromones, whatever, and the people obey.
Call me crazy if you want (and I definitely am) but I almost think it's the opposite. The church/Deseret Deep State is going to make damn sure that, at the end of the day, no one but Trump gets Utah's EVs, but they're letting Egghead serve as Kristol's butt-buddy as a warning to Trump and the Republicans in general that the party is going to have treat them as a faction with options. Don't count on getting 80+% of our vote any more... unless you give us what we want.

...what, in this era of fags marrying and the mainstream GOP pretty much surrendering on the issue, could that be?

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 03, 2016 5:05 PM  

Moroni-bologna. The kind of sausage that we will make of them and feed to their favorite angel.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 03, 2016 5:07 PM  

Like the nice white people of the upper midwest, [Mormons are] natural targets for the Clintonbots and the Cuckservatiive line that Trump is Not Nice.

Yep. I don't think I know a single Mormon in real life, but I know plenty of Catholics and Protestants here in the Land of Nice who are the same way. My own sister made some noise about McMuffin the other day, and she's exactly the type: far more concerned with appearances and being nice than with saying or doing the right thing. If she's being critical of something, like the local public schools, I can get her to turn on a dime and defend them by saying the same thing she's saying, but putting it more harshly so it crosses her Nice Threshold.

Listening to a couple of Hillary's ads during the baseball game last night, I could see why Nice People feel the need to apologize for supporting him. When you take a few quotes from other contexts where he was joking around or angry, and stick them together in the completely different context of a campaign, they're exactly the kind of thing that makes Nice People wince and look the other way. Never mind whether what he was saying was right -- the ad doesn't even pretend to give you the context to judge that. Just the rough tone and forcefulness is off-putting in itself to them.

Blogger Elocutioner November 03, 2016 5:07 PM  

I didn't redpill and fight against the self-promoting heisen-tribe just to allow an insane cult of cucks assert control over us in our own country by pulling the same. damn. trick.

They ain't us. Since we've finally been forced into identity politics - which they've been playing the whole time - game on. They're Mormons. They're not whites. They're not Christians. They're not Americans. They're Mormons first and above all. By choice. They've rejected our common heritage. Noted and accepted. They're not of my nation.

Anonymous Utah4Trump November 03, 2016 5:10 PM  

I live in suburban Salt Lake County. The feeling I'm getting is that it'll be Trump by 10 or more points

Blogger Lovekraft November 03, 2016 5:12 PM  

Here's Gavin over at Takimag arguing that all modicum of civility is long gone with regards to the cultural marxists/SJWs:

http://takimag.com/article/if_we_lose_gavin_mcinnes#axzz4Oxo26kAg

Anonymous TLM November 03, 2016 5:15 PM  

Purge of Great Price

Blogger Lovekraft November 03, 2016 5:16 PM  

Liveleak video of a feminazi Civilization-Betrayer showing her true colours. A huge problem for the alt-right is neutralizing the female tendency for herdthink/virtue-signalling.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=993_1478184621

Anonymous dagwood November 03, 2016 5:18 PM  

Oh, come on, it's gotta be Mormalade.

Or, maybe we can infect them all with Mormonucleosis.

Or, we could turn them to glass in Mormoshima.

We must all employ the ideology that Less is Morm.

Perhaps they will all suffer from Rigor Mormtis?

One thing's for sure: it definitely won't be Morming in America.

That's what they get for not subscribing to sociopolitical Morms.

And for engaging in Mormography.

When they're sent to the camps, they'll have to sleep in Mormatories.

That is, unless someone declares a Mormotorium.

For the love of God, somebody find the off switch on this thing.

Anonymous Soylent_Green November 03, 2016 5:21 PM  

@10
"Some of my ancestors cut out human hearts and flayed people as part of their religious ceremonies, so I'm not inclined to throw many stones in that regard."

"But enough about the Celts..."

Funny, I was going to say my Saxon ancestors..... ;)

Anonymous Emperor of Icecream November 03, 2016 5:24 PM  

The Mountain Mormon Massacre. The Abomination of Mormonation. Deatheret. Doomtah.

If you gentiles won't get off your asses and come up with something better than Capt. Underoos and the Mormonpalooza to make fun of us, I guess we'll have to do it ourselves.

Unless McMullin is a long term plant y'all have put in place to mock us. If so, well played. Slow clap.

P.S. Trump's taking Utah. Cucks are losers. They are as bad at selling out to the Dems as they are at "opposing" the Dems.

Anonymous Emperor of Icecream November 03, 2016 5:26 PM  

I spoke too soon. Mormoshima is top kek.

Anonymous Emperor of Icecream November 03, 2016 5:27 PM  

The alcoholcalypse

Blogger Stilicho November 03, 2016 5:30 PM  

Egg McMormon wants the Butcher of Benghazi to be President because Trump said a naughty word. One suspects that Mrs. McMormon wants the God Emperor to grab her by the p#$$y. Because. It. Has. Been. Soooo. Long...

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 03, 2016 5:35 PM  

@51 Mrs? Evan is a single 41 year old Mormon raised by a lesbian. No red flags there.

Blogger Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque November 03, 2016 5:35 PM  

The epicene porcine Cuck, Beck, said today that if Trump wins he will destroy his show but Beck has already done that his own self.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 03, 2016 5:39 PM  

Egg McMormon wants the Butcher of Benghazi to be President because Trump said a naughty word.

Nah, that's just the rhetoric he used to try to sway Nice People into voting for him. What he and his group want is to keep the wars and mass immigration going.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 5:40 PM  

Also... I'm concerned that those in charge of the mormon genocide have not thoroughly thought this through.

Its all fun and games till you realize some poor bastard is gonna have lead an assault on Larry Corriea at Yard Moose Mountain.

Y'all have fun with that.


Blogger Jeffrey Johnson November 03, 2016 5:40 PM  

I voted in Provo, Utah yesterday. The first thing the voting machine asks you is if you want to vote a straight ticket for whatever party. How many old people are just going to hit the R on that list and move on with their time? Probably most of the Provo locals. Around town there are a few Egg McMuffin signs. However when I walk around town in my Make America Great Again hat all of the men give me happy looks and lots of the girls smile at me. The Mormon Church tried to gas light the people into voting for the Egg but privately nobody supports him.

One of the things with the Mormon mind is everybody hears the public narrative and publicly agrees with it but in private they do whatever they want. The Utah people believe that everybody else is supporting the Egg because that's what they hear and they believe that they are the only one supporting Trump. However the opposite is true, everybody supports Trump and a few reject dorks support the Egg. When Utah's vote is counted Trump will get the 60 to 65% of the vote in Utah just like the Republican candidate always gets. Then all of us Mormons can put the Egg McMuffin embarrassment behind us.

Anonymous Passinthough November 03, 2016 5:40 PM  

As a avid observer of Mormon culture I can tell you that the Mormons along the Wasatch front are proud members of the cult of nice. They also are infested with rabbitry. They are easily trolled with hilarious results.
I don't recommend starting a feud with the Mormons. They make better friends than enemies. The coming apocalypse will take care of the rabbits among them.

Anonymous Kevin November 03, 2016 5:42 PM  

Mormons are idealistic and many have a tough time being pragmatic and ruthless in politics. I am a Trump voter only because I view Hillary as the culmination of an elite cabal of criminals and preventing her ascension is worth almost any price.

As I have said before, when faced with two losers from the major parties its easy to decide to go 3rd party. Non-voting and conscientious objection all look pretty good compared to Hillary and Trump. Trump represents almost none of the views of the average right leaning Mormon. Not religious, not political, nothing. A huge portion of Mormon men have traveled the world on missions and have no concern about globalism or immigration in their minds. Trump could have worked to bridge that gap more and his boorishness would have been more forgivable. But since he has not, his inability to persuade these groups is his own fault. Ignoring this potential constituency has put several states in play just by Trump incompetence. The Mormons are being crazy, but Trump is failing as well. Rhetoric is more than attacking your opponents, it is also persuading others to join your cause.

The average left leaning Mormon is holding on to Hillary. This just continues to illustrate the difficulty "conservatives" have with Trump - he has done just too little to reach out to them and does not represent their views. Leftist don't care about Hillary being evil because they still see her as their team.

Now why are Mormons rallying behind an unknown with no political history who is a cypher and just happens to share their religion? No idea- its beyond stupid to me. Sure - vote for the conservative party, the libertarian party. But just some random Mormon who volunteers? Baffling and frankly embarrassing.

FYI I am a Mormon, and most the other ignorant ramblings here are such bad trolling attempts most mormons would just roll their eyes. The genocide one is ok, but a little past date. If you want to troll the average mormon man a clever joke about why if God has asked his daughter to have children he is pushing her to be a surgeon might be more biting. Or making fun of the fact he is supposed to be the leader of the home but his wife keeps writing letters to the bishop about her getting ordained. Or why can't he provide well enough that his wife has to work outside the home. That will hurt.

Anonymous Nathanael November 03, 2016 5:44 PM  

Also, (((Mindy Finn))) is Egg McMuffin's running mate.

"(((Mindy Finn))) is founder and current president of Empowered Women, a non-profit working to expand and diversify the conversation on feminism and women's equality."

Are we absolutely sure this isn't some kind of cuckservative parody that went too far?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindy_Finn

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 03, 2016 5:45 PM  

@55 Nate
Also... I'm concerned that those in charge of the mormon genocide have not thoroughly thought this through.

Cool. So you're in charge of it, now.

Have fun!

OpenID peppermintfrosted November 03, 2016 5:45 PM  

If Mormons were men, they would tell say the the US government already tried that and it didn't work.

But they're not.

Anonymous VFMUltra November 03, 2016 5:45 PM  

Also in Utah. Here's my take on the Mormons. The churchian cuckiness of the Mormons knows no bounds. Mormons are already given to virtue signaling, this even back when virtue signaling was more akin to being Pharisaical, they still were. An example of this is how Mormons will go to the extent of adopting black children as a show of how charitable (read: cucked) they are, while the very poor within their own congregations are looked at as not having God's blessing, with the evidence being that they're poor. This tendency coupled with Trumps clench on the nomination has seen the signaling go into overdrive this election with many professing at every opportunity how supporting Trump will only prove the Left correct about Republicans being racist, sexist, homophobic, blah, blah, blah, implying that Mormons are everything not-Trump i.e. major fucking cucks. You get the point. Don't underestimate the influence of feminists within Mormonism either. All the pro-Hillary ads played locally feature beta herbs telling the viewer that they don't want their daughters growing up in a country where the President "doesn't respect women." The irony of the daughters portrayed in the ad being white and blonde is completely lost on them.

Blogger l' Américain November 03, 2016 5:47 PM  

Clearly, it should be called 'momornomor'

Anonymous Kevin November 03, 2016 5:47 PM  

@Emporer of Ice Cream

I was trying to work in the Mountain Massacre as that would be more hurtful than the proposed ones. Well done.

But Detheret and Mormoshioma. Now those are awesome.

Anonymous Casey November 03, 2016 5:47 PM  

Just ask the magic rock who to vote for.

http://www.ldsliving.com/Church-Releases-Original-Book-of-Mormon-Manuscript/s/79633

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 5:49 PM  

"Cool. So you're in charge of it, now. "

I wouldn't genocide them. I would just give them washington state and make them all move there.

Blogger Sam Lively November 03, 2016 5:49 PM  

@55

No idea he was a Mormon. That's like finding out Tony Soprano was actually a Mormon.

Doesn't make sense.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 5:50 PM  

imagine how pissed the Washington Dirt Hippies would be if they were suddenly invaded by millions of do-gooder mormons...

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 5:50 PM  

"Doesn't make sense."

There are mormons... and then there are mormons.

Blogger tim November 03, 2016 5:51 PM  

Solid. Hear that Glen?

Blogger Sam Lively November 03, 2016 5:51 PM  

@66

Why do they get Washington? I like that state.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 03, 2016 5:55 PM  

Kevin
A huge portion of Mormon men have traveled the world on missions and have no concern about globalism or immigration in their minds.

They must all be blank-slate types who prevent themselves from Noticing what's around them, then, especially those who spend any time in equatorial Africa. I understand that Mormon theology has some implications for supporting immigration from central and south America. I don't see how anyone could spend time in Equitorial Guinea or Camaroon and come away enthused about the idea of importing more west Africans.

It's gotta be blank slate thinking.

If you want to troll the average mormon man...

Like the ones I talked with in the Nevada liquor store? No need to troll them. They trolled themselves.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 03, 2016 5:55 PM  

I think for a third party to be respected as such, it has to maintain the appearance of trying to win, no matter how hopeless it might be, and having no allegiance to the other parties. When the candidate of a third party says he doesn't like A or B but he will be happy if B wins, then it's no longer a third party; it's just a branch office of B's campaign.

The McMuffin/Kristol party was never trying to win, nor was it ever serious about winning YT and AZ to block both candidates. They were simply trying to throw the election to Hillary, and McMuffin was dumb enough to say so.

As far as responsibility goes, the whole thing looks like the brainchild of (((Bill Kristol))), who latched onto the Mormons because their Nice tendencies and lock on a single R-leaning state made them look like a tool he might use. Doesn't look like the regular people are having it, so it's just one more failure on his record. In the final analysis, I wouldn't be surprised if this anti-Trump revolt turns out to have been as much of a media/elite fiction as the one at the convention.

Blogger Anchorman November 03, 2016 5:56 PM  

Splatter Day Paints?

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 03, 2016 5:57 PM  

Mormons are nice white people with lots of white babies and lots of guns. Isn't that what the alt white wants?

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 5:57 PM  

"Why do they get Washington? I like that state."

Because they said I was in charge and I don't.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 03, 2016 5:58 PM  

Nate

There are mormons... and then there are mormons.


Yes. Some of the finest riflemen I've ever seen are devout Mormons. Probably won't like moving to Washington, though.

Anonymous EH November 03, 2016 5:59 PM  

The brave 63 year-old Black homeless woman who protected Trump's star on the walk of fame and was assaulted by leftist bullies was found yesterday. Denise Scott now has a place to stay and a gofundme account of over $27,000. (The goal is $100k)

Trump's star had been vandalized by a sledgehammer-wielding millionaire last Wednesday. Mrs. Scott had been missing for four days.

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson November 03, 2016 5:59 PM  

One of the things that a lot of people don't know about Mormon Culture is the Alt Right is incredibly strong. For example a bunch of BYU kids are hosting a candle light vigil for Harambe. There's going to be about 2,000 people attending. If you get on the event page it is full of Pepe memes, etc. So the loud annoying cucks get tons of play but behind the scenes there's tons of people on our side.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 03, 2016 6:00 PM  

@59
Also, (((Mindy Finn))) is Egg McMuffin's running mate.

Wait, I thought David French had that sewed up. Is that him in a dress?

Anonymous WaterBoy November 03, 2016 6:01 PM  

Emperor of Icecream @48: "If you gentiles won't get off your asses and come up with something better than Capt. Underoos and the Mormonpalooza to make fun of us, I guess we'll have to do it ourselves."

The End Of This Particular World As We Know It (TEOTPWAWKI).

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 6:01 PM  

"Mormons are nice white people with lots of white babies and lots of guns. Isn't that what the alt white wants? "

The rate of brown baby importation is very high among mormons.

so no.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 6:02 PM  

"Yes. Some of the finest riflemen I've ever seen are devout Mormons. Probably won't like moving to Washington, though. "

we'll lure them there with promises of +6 magic underwear and legalized polygamy.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 03, 2016 6:02 PM  

As far as responsibility goes, the whole thing looks like the brainchild of (((Bill Kristol))),

What? Egghead McMuffin is a Potemkin candidate?

I am shocked, shocked to read of such goings on in Current Year!

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 6:06 PM  

honestly I have no idea who McMuffin even is...

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 03, 2016 6:07 PM  

"Mormons are nice white people with lots of white babies and lots of guns. Isn't that what the alt white wants? "

They keep importing wives and babies from south of the Rio Grande, all the way down to Peru. So, not so much as you think.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 6:07 PM  

Some of you may remember me from years back.

Since then the Mormon Church excommunicated me for apostasy. (I couldn't "pledge allegiance" to "the living prophet" and promise to do WHATEVER THE HELL HE SAYS, NO MATTER WHAT....so they kicked me out.) You may be surprised to hear that the 15 Mormon "high priests" who supervised my "ouster" actually asked me: "Do you believe Jesus Christ is our PERSONAL Savior?" When I said "Yes, absolutely!" one of them said "That's false doctrine!" NOT ONE OF THOSE MEN DISAGREED.

Mormons see THEMSELVES as "saviors". They believe Jesus has given THEM His power to "save" (or damn) -- no further involvement by Him needed! (They had NO PROBLEM "damning" me, apparently.)

"If you don't do what we say," they said, "you'll lose your wife and children."

I didn't believe them.

I was saddened to lose my affiliation with that organization. (I used to be proud to be a Mormon.) Now I can't bring myself to wear a BYU sweatshirt. (My alma mater!)

My Mormon wife is divorcing me. (It becomes "final" tomorrow, in fact!) Our seven children are SHATTERED. They've lost their faith and don't go to church anymore.

It has all crumbled to dust.

Strangely, my wife still goes to church and remains "active" in the Mormon Church -- even though she doubts if Jesus ever existed.

Strange. Very strange.

I never would have thought Mormons could be (potentially) instrumental in defeating the ANTI-OBAMA candidate. (But virtue-signalling is VERY important to pharisees...er, I mean, Mormons.)

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 03, 2016 6:10 PM  

honestly I have no idea who McMuffin even is...

Why, the next President. That's what (((Irving Kristol)) is happily peddling. Don't you believe him?

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 6:13 PM  

"My Mormon wife is divorcing me. (It becomes "final" tomorrow, in fact!) Our seven children are SHATTERED. They've lost their faith and don't go to church anymore. "

Damn Will...

I'm sorry man. Perhaps your wife doesn't realize that she is still going to be a pariah... even if she does divorce you. In fact that is why she will be a pariah. she thinks she is choosing them over you. In reality she is choosing isolation and misery.

Blogger Lew Rand November 03, 2016 6:38 PM  

Nate wrote:honestly I have no idea who McMuffin even is...

Yeah he was on CNN last night and my mom couldn't figure out why they were talking about strange robo calls against some guy who was running for president. Took me a while to convince her that THAT was the guy and yes he was running for president (I only knew from reading the caption)

My first thought was he was sending out the robo calls himself, but more likely it was his handlers

Blogger Elocutioner November 03, 2016 6:40 PM  

@90 Lew Rand - Yep. I don't think Trump has even mentioned his name. Sounds like an Oberlin-style cry for attention and victim points from a Clinton surrogate.

Anonymous Emperor of Icecream November 03, 2016 6:40 PM  

"For example a bunch of BYU kids are hosting a candle light vigil for Harambe. There's going to be about 2,000 people attending. If you get on the event page it is full of Pepe memes, etc"

Sweet Moses. I may send my kids to BYU after all.

"we'll lure them there with promises of +6 magic underwear and legalized polygamy."

See now, that's quality trolling. I'll feel bad when Nate rots in hell.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 6:44 PM  

Thank you, Nate.

Actually, she's a "hero" now "for the cause" among her social group. According to Mormons, she has "jettisoned" the "apostate"!

There are plenty of Mormons here in California, so she has an ample social group still. As a mother of seven, she's the Virgin Mary, Joan of Arc, and Mother Teresa all rolled in one! A wonderful woman, in fact. (That's why I love her!)

But when the whole world (including the Mormon Church) turned on me, she couldn't stand the heat...and bailed. I lost the love of my life.

As for "isolation and misery", she seems to enjoy life without me. (Yep, I hate to admit that.) Of course, I'm paying all the bills still....so there's no real financial burden...yet. (Don't know how long I'll be able to keep that up. The judge first asked for $5600 a month in child support and alimony...we won't go there...I don't want to derail this thread!)

The Mormon Church is picking up all the slack...baby-sitting, extra food, anything she needs! Like I said, she's a "hero" in their eyes, and they'll do ANYTHING to help her out.

I just wish one of them (in the two years since they kicked me out) came by to inquire about how I'm doing. (They haven't. I'm "irredeemable" and "expendable" in their eyes.)

The Mormon Church is EVERY BIT as pharisaical and blinded as the Jewish sect which crucified Christ. They do what their prophet ("Caiaphas") tells them to do.

You have to be a real asshole to go against the grain, (like I did).

That's why I like Trump. He's an asshole.

Anonymous EH November 03, 2016 6:44 PM  

My condolences, Will. If you have free time without the kids, it's probably not good to spend it much of it alone or to date for a while, get out of the house and talk with men. My prayers are with you and your children.

Anonymous Emperor of Icecream November 03, 2016 6:44 PM  

@Good Will,

I was one of those high priests who excommunicated you and I want to clear up a few things. First of all, what we actually asked you was if Jesus was your personnel Savior. Good HR is important. And we didn't say you were damned. We said you were dumb.

Kidding. On a serious note, though, sorry to hear about your kids, assuming they were all or mostly yours.

Blogger Mike Farnsworth November 03, 2016 6:52 PM  

@Good Will

Nice sob story, too bad you made most of it up and just openly lied about our doctrine.

I hope the chip on your shoulder stops aching soon.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 6:52 PM  

Emporor of Icecream,

You had me going there!

As for kids: yep, all mine. 15 y.o. and under! THAT bites! I loved (and was most proud) of my family. We were the "consummate" Mormons...until we weren't.

Of course, we were NEVER "insiders" -- pioneer stock, born and raised in the faith, etc. I was a convert. I brought my wife into the church after we married.

She was a lot younger than me, too. (Mormons don't look favorably on older men marrying teenagers...at least not since Joseph Smith's day! ;o)

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 03, 2016 6:54 PM  

I'm shocked by the behavior of you "Christians" you could have the decency to ask that poor broken man (McMuffin) what leftist propaganda broke him to the Cucks' bit.

Sarcasm folks

Blogger Chris Mallory November 03, 2016 6:55 PM  

Nate wrote:we'll lure them there with promises of +6 magic underwear and legalized polygamy.

That will have the added advantage of attracting the Musselmen as well. They can have a false religion showdown over who has the most wives.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 6:55 PM  

Mike Farnsworth,

I didn't lie about your doctrine. I quoted EXACTLY what they said. (Maybe YOU don't believe 2 Nephi 28:5 as a Mormon, but I ASSURE YOU, the men who excommunicated me do.)

http://in200wordsorless.blogspot.com/2014/04/how-long-will-you-make-us-to-doubt-tell.html

Blogger Mike Farnsworth November 03, 2016 6:59 PM  

I hear those exact phrases at church from leaders and have taught them myself in front of stake presidents and bishops. Pray tell, why haven't I been excommunicated?

Clearly something else happened and you're trying to pin it on a lie. I'm not going to argue with you about it though and spoil your sympathy party. You have fun with that.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 03, 2016 7:01 PM  

Nate wrote:"Cool. So you're in charge of it, now. "

I wouldn't genocide them. I would just give them washington state and make them all move there.

Well, that's one way to get them all killed without having to endanger yourself or get blood on your own hands.

Seriously, you think that will fly, you don't know any Washingtonians. Send some Mexicans, some Blacks, we'll be good. Send a plague of Mormons and watch the fireworks.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 03, 2016 7:02 PM  

Sorry to hear that, Will. Hang in there.

I've seen the same thing happen in other churches, when the divorcee becomes the belle of the ball while the bad man she divorced is outcast, even if she sought the divorce. Often she will throw herself into church activities, becoming very involved to fill the space in her life, which others take as devotion. Sometimes they'll like this New Her so much that they'll decide divorce was a good thing -- you know, just this once. It usually doesn't last, because eventually her drama wears out its welcome.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 03, 2016 7:02 PM  

VD wrote:Nationalists don't care why, they only care with whom you stand.
This is why I scratched my letter to the Recucklican candidate for US House and have been trying to phrase something like this:

"So you are pro-immigration. This means you are anti-me. I just learned that there are whole new apartment complexes downstate full of Indian immigrants, taking the tech jobs that Americans used to have. That hits me directly. You claim to care about the schools, but you don't care that many are trash because of thousands of illiterate children dragged here by their illiterate immigrant parents converting them into day-care centers for the borderline retarded.

You want my vote, but you put me and mine last.

The hell with that. I'm voting for your opponent this time. Not because I think he'll be better—I know he won't—but because I'm sure we can get rid of the SOB in 2018 and I sure as hell don't want to be stuck with a cuckservative like YOU.

You should have stayed in Louisiana."

Bobby Farr wrote:Evan is a single 41 year old Mormon raised by a lesbian. No red flags there.
I knew (carnally) a Mormon girl from SLC.  She was in a long-term lesbian relationship last I knew, even though she was nominally hetero.  Childless.  What I hear from those who've been through it is that the strong sex segregation and other things in childhood messes a lot of them up.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 03, 2016 7:08 PM  

Good Will wrote:Of course, I'm paying all the bills still....so there's no real financial burden...yet. (Don't know how long I'll be able to keep that up. The judge first asked for $5600 a month in child support and alimony...we won't go there...I don't want to derail this thread!)
If they take the kids, you could do the traditional mormon thing and skip to Mexico.

Mike Farnsworth wrote:Pray tell, why haven't I been excommunicated?

Clearly something else happened and you're trying to pin it on a lie. I'm not going to argue with you about it though and spoil your sympathy party. You have fun with that.


Because Mormons don't really care about the theology. They care about authority and in-groupism. Will's actual apostasy was standing up to the Bishops and Presidents.

And by they way, your response only confirms his story, so there's that.

Blogger Franz Lionheart November 03, 2016 7:09 PM  

For the love of God, somebody find the off switch on this thing.

Perpetuum Mormile.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 7:10 PM  

Mike Farnsworth,

Sorry to come across as being self-pitying. (I am sad about my divorce, though, I've gotta admit.) You can read all about it if you care to -- before you judge me, half-cocked.

(That's what "faithful" Mormons usually do when confronted with opposing evidence. They judge the messenger as being "of the devil" so they can dismiss his message out of hand. Non-Mormons do the same...to Mormons.)

That's why many hate Trump, too. (He's not "worthy".)

What "exact phrases" are you referring to having heard? I didn't get your meaning.

"Clearly something else happened and you're trying to pin it on a lie."

I've admitted all my faults, Mike. But I'm confident you'll NEVER see an "Alma the Younger" sitting in your cushy red seats at Conference. (Your church won't let them -- for the most part -- even serve missions now.) I can't boast (like you might be able to) of being able to belong to the "never once" club, but I do have a passionate love for Jesus. (To be frank, that's what most Mormons lack. They do not PASSIONATELY love Jesus...having never met Him, heard Him, or known Him.)

Blogger tz November 03, 2016 7:10 PM  

The epicene porcine Cuck, Beck, said today that if Trump wins he will destroy his show but Beck has already done that his own self.

Does the "he" refer to Trump, or to some kind of suicidal act on Beck's part. "Pat, Stu, isn't the kool-aid extra delicious this morning...?"

Blogger tz November 03, 2016 7:11 PM  

Black Mormon priests re recent - before 1978 they could not be ordained (the Book of Mormon says dark skin is the mark of a curse - though it also condemns polygamy).

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 7:20 PM  

I was an avid Beck fan...until he turned all "commercial". His website was positively sickening with headlines such as "You won't believe what this guy said!" or "Ted Cruz wants to do what to whom?" Lame.

The most vacuous "news" website imaginable. I kept telling them to "play it straight up"...but they turned The Blaze into a "click" fest for ad dollars...and lost audience.

When the trio (Beck-Pat-Stu) started HATING on Trump NO MATTER WHAT...I just couldn't take it anymore. THEY SOUND POSITIVELY INSANE NOW. Their "love fest" for Cruz was sickening (even though Cruz was my first choice).

They just don't "play fair" anymore. I've lost respect for Beck. (I greatly admired him until then.)

Anonymous Kevin November 03, 2016 7:21 PM  

@72

They are confused about the difference between personal and political. When you spend two years serving people that God loves and you love in horrible places, you think, it would be great if people like the people I served came to America. Because you did not think about their politics, their culture, their habits. You thought about their salvation. It can be tough separating the personal from the political.

A related example. I don't think we should have welfare at all as a government policy. Its damaging. But Jesus told me to try and help the poor so I do. The inability to differentiate the personal and political categories leads to lots of bad conclusions - that I should not help the poor or that we should welcome the whole world to our country.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 7:25 PM  

@111

Absolutely, Kevin. You nailed it! Did you serve a mission?

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 7:27 PM  

Chin up Will. We are judged by our actions... not those of others. You for yours and your wife for hers.

Fascinating to see how little the Family Uber Alles mormon church actually cares about family.

But hey...

As you well know... I'm not exactly pro-mormon.

Blogger Mike Farnsworth November 03, 2016 7:30 PM  

"Personal Savior", "He died for me, and for you", etc all heard at church last week. No reprimands.

I'm sorry for what you're going through, but it's a certainty you weren't called into a disciplinary council over that. And it's Bishop first until you appeal to the high council with the "15 men". Which means you had a serious problem and a serious dispute.

Maybe they made an error in the end, but you haven't been honest about the reasons for ending up in that situation; you weren't excommunicated over that statement. If you were, an appeal to the area presidency would have gotten that stake presidency in real trouble. Anyone who knows LDS doctrine and the disciplinary process knows what your saying is very incomplete, at best.

If your story is true, go appeal to the general authorities right now, as they would want to know about this.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 03, 2016 7:36 PM  

Maybe @Mike, he has come to the conclusion that the LDS church is a fake, a cult built on lies, using fear and intimidation to try to keep members in line.

Christ said "What God has joined, let no man put asunder."
Why was this woman encouraged (not allowed, encouraged and you know it) to destroy her family and divorcce her husband. Why was she made to choose, not by him but by YOU and your fellows, between what God Himself, in the flesh, has proclaimed and membership in your Satanic cult?

I'm sure you have a canned response, and I'm sure it's self-serving anti-rational bullshit.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 7:45 PM  

Thanks, Nate.

Mormons DO care about families. "Mormon" families.

They teach there are no "families" after this life unless you're a Mormon (or embrace the Mormon gospel here or hereafter). That's why they do temple work. In case the dead want to "receive" the Mormon gospel.

Of course, it's the LIVING Mormons who have a problem.

By and large, they've never met Christ, never heard Him, never seen Him. They do not know Him. Wouldn't recognize Him if He knocked on their door. (Most Christians fall into this same boat, unfortunately.)

Oh, they know OF Him! They KNOW a lot about Jesus! Just not Him PERSONALLY.

Nary a one would say "I have been PERSONALLY ministered to by Jesus Christ". Almost NONE would say "He has appeared to me", or "spoken to me", or "embraced me at the veil", or "told me He has forgiven me", or "sealed me to Himself", what have you.

Most Mormons BELIEVE in Him. They just don't know Him. He's not their PERSONAL Savior.

Mormons are "saved" by their faith in their gospel, their church, their ordinances, their leaders. But God, as far as they're concerned, has done His work, having given His power unto them.

Of course, Mormons virtually NEVER experience or exercise this power of God they claim to hold. (You'll see virtually NOTHING like what was observed by early Christians in the primitive church.)

This they just explain away. Cognitive dissonance is strong with them.

Sad but true.

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson November 03, 2016 7:48 PM  

Will,

I'm calling BS on how you got EX'd. The Mormon Church doesn't excommunicate people anymore. They certainly aren't going around asking people about their doctrinal beliefs.

Blogger Mike Farnsworth November 03, 2016 7:49 PM  

On topic, I'm seeing tons of quiet support for Trump here in Mormon central. Around my neighborhood lots of people have quietly told me they're voting for Trump and they are pretty disgusted with the Egg McMuffin loudmouths.

I sent in my ballot a couple days ago for Trump, and I've encouraged as many others as I can to do likewise.

I'm quite sure Trump will take Utah, and I'm also quite sure he won't need the EC points anyway (as Vox says). I'm going to enjoy rubbing it in when I see a few nitwits I know after the election.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 7:53 PM  

"Well, that's one way to get them all killed without having to endanger yourself or get blood on your own hands."

yep.

Almost sounds like someone planned it that way huh?

Blogger Can't wait November 03, 2016 7:54 PM  

@Good Will
I'm am sorry to learn of your challenges. Stick with God of the Bible not the book of mormon. Resources: Utah Lighthouse Ministry (www.utlm.org).

When you discover, believe, and live in God's Truth there is a separation with error by consequence. Read 2 Cor 6:14-18.

Mat 10:34-36 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’

I would congratulate you for standing firm on the one true Faith and encourage you to persevere.
Phil 3:13-14 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

Stay strong, remember, 2 Cor 12:10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

Peace.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 7:59 PM  

@114 Mike Farnsworth,

Thank you, Mike. I'm sure you mean well. That link I sent you explained what happened at my hearing.

The following was written a few days after I was "cut off".

http://in200wordsorless.blogspot.com/2014/04/im-tryin-to-be-like-jesus-im-following.html

You mentioned making an appeal. I appealed to the First Presidency.

My appeal was denied.

http://in200wordsorless.blogspot.com/2014/06/exhaling.html

Of course, this isn't the place to talk about all that...so you can read it there if you wish. Please do. I would enjoy hearing your response.

I wish you wouldn't keep blindly asserting that I haven't been "honest". It's judgmental and, quite frankly, false.

Anonymous BGKB November 03, 2016 8:02 PM  

More trollolly goodness: alt-Right trolls Politico; punks them into running bogus article

"Put flatly: Despite what Politico’s most popular Nov. 2 story might tell you, there is no insidious plan to suppress the black vote with 40 oz. beers and marijuana in areas around voting stations."

Everyone knows you need KFC to go with it or it wont work.

you think, it would be great if people like the people I served came to America.... You thought about their salvation.

Yea let BigGaySteve pay for Latrina's soon to be 21 crack babies, while HilLIARy licks the girls.

"we'll lure them there with promises of +6 magic underwear and legalized polygamy."

Does the +6 underwear let you have 6 extra wives?

Anonymous Blume November 03, 2016 8:12 PM  

I figure it goes like this. The wall is built east of the rockies and the Mexicans do the slow violence and breeding thing they do and let it sort itself out.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 8:14 PM  

@115

Snidely,

I do appreciate your comment about "what God has joined together." I can't tell you HOW MANY TIMES I've said this to my wife! Our marriage TRULY was made in heaven.

But, for some reason, she doesn't share that conviction anymore.

@117

Jeffrey, you can read my links (if you care to). The Mormon church has excommunicated hundreds (if not thousands) recently for teaching that we can -- and should -- seek face-to-face communication, salvation and association with Jesus Christ in this life.

Blogger Bard November 03, 2016 8:29 PM  

I went to a Mormon church service with a friend while stationed in HI. We discussed religion a lot and I was very critical of his faith. He invited me to "check it out". He did not tell me to wear a black suit with white shirt. I was the only one in color. Kids sang, no one clapped. Group of very old people lining the stage staring down the audience. No joy. One damn strange experiences. He asked me what I thought and I told him it was one spiritually cold dead place.

Blogger Bard November 03, 2016 8:30 PM  

MNAMSALT

Maybe not all Mormon services are like that

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 8:34 PM  

You know, Dread Ilk, all that's happening now was foreseen (and foretold) in the Book of Mormon: the "invasion" of the "promised land" by the brown-skinned race overtaking (and eventually outnumbering) their white-skinned foes, whom (the brown-skins say) "stole" their ancestral lands and their right to rule. The white-skins had superior knowledge, skills, weaponry, etc., and were led by and protected by Divine Favor, by which they defeated their foes. But, eventually, the white-skins waxed proud, boasted of their greatness and began invading foreign lands.

Until their enemies achieve parity in armaments and defenses -- and the white-skins begin to be swept off the land.

All this happened when the white-skins forsook their religion and their worship of their God, Jesus Christ.

It happened to them. They saw our day (by revelation) and said it would happen to us.

It's happening.

Anonymous Desert Rat November 03, 2016 8:36 PM  

Whole lot of idiocy here about Mormons and LDS beliefs.

I am Mormon and have no patience for useless prattle and pointless arguments.

But be advised that if anyone comes to my house with the intent to harm me or mine or force me or mine out they will be met with a face full of buckshot.

Blogger Bard November 03, 2016 8:43 PM  

What if I bring a friend and we arrive on bicycles dressed like twins?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 03, 2016 8:43 PM  

@111 Kevin

They are confused about the difference between personal and political. When you spend two years serving people that God loves and you love in horrible places, you think, it would be great if people like the people I served came to America.

But God put them there. Bringing the whole world here is Babelism.

Because you did not think about their politics, their culture, their habits. You thought about their salvation. It can be tough separating the personal from the political.

Uh, their salvation doesn't depend on electricity, running water, freeways or EBT cards. They don't need to come here for salvation. So I think some of your missionaries are either confused, or more materialistic than they care to admit.

This has to be relatively new, too. Mormons weren't all about mass migration and colonization 30 years ago. What changed?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 03, 2016 8:46 PM  

@128 Desert Rat
But be advised that if anyone comes to my house with the intent to harm me or mine or force me or mine out they will be met with a face full of buckshot.



Now you've done it. Nate was going to offer you a nice piece of land with Columbia River view, but now...I don't know, man, I just don't know.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 8:46 PM  

Bard,

Most meetings are like that, unfortunately. That's pretty much "par" for the course. (It takes some getting used to!)

I LOVED attending LDS services in Hawaii!

But the religion has changed. Now they TELL you what to say in the meetings. (The talks, the lessons, the songs...they're all "scripted" for you.) EVERYTHING is correlated. My wife put a picture of Jesus on the wall and someone asked: "Is that an AUTHORIZED picture of Jesus?" ("Really? Is there ANYONE here who knows what He REALLY looks like?")

What the LDS Church DOES have is an ENORMOUS quantity of scripture, revealed word, inspired doctrine, etc.

The Mormons don't cherish it, hardly understand it, and generally ignore it...but they HAVE it, nonetheless, very much like the Jews of Christ's time. Just like them, Mormons today follow their leaders...not the Lord. (They consider following their leaders and following the Lord the same thing.)

If the LDS scriptures (or the Lord) say one thing, and the LDS LEADERS say another, they follow their leaders.

One of the guys who excommunicated me -- I kid you not! -- said "Why do we even need the Holy Ghost? We have a living prophet!"

There you go!

I think it's NUTS so many Mormons (I know) are voting for Satan...er, I mean HilLIARy. Virtually EVERY Mormon I know has "defriended" me on FB for supporting Trump (or talking about Christ).

Blogger Bard November 03, 2016 8:49 PM  

That is a great word choice Will, scripted. It was very different and that made it strange for me. I suppose we all get used to our styles.

Anonymous Vile Faceless Deplorable Minion November 03, 2016 8:54 PM  

@Desert Rat

If only your heathenous religion taught you to be as aggressive toward the brown people actually invading your home and actively doing you and your family harm as you are against misc. anonymous internet shit posters. Then you might be one step up from utterly useless.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 03, 2016 8:54 PM  

This has to be relatively new, too. Mormons weren't all about mass migration and colonization 30 years ago.

It's new for Catholics and Protestants too, yet we now have Catholic Charities and major Protestant charities all working hand-in-hand to bring as many "refugees" into the country as possible, and preaching open borders from many of their pulpits.

It's a part of the modernism that has invaded the hierarchies of pretty much all the churches. A common thread is the belief that the lines between nations/churches should be blurred, to bring about a global state/religion of Man. The different nations/churches can continue to exist, to offer different flavors of this one-world system, but without their own sovereignty. Importing foreigners is one means to that end.

The other part of it is just laziness: it's dangerous and hard work to go somewhere like Africa and try to convert the natives. Much, much nicer to get the government to bring them to Yourtown, USA, and pay you to babysit them.

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson November 03, 2016 8:54 PM  

Will,

You are saying another outright lie. No Mormon would ever say, "Why do we even need the Holy Ghost? We have a living prophet!" There are plenty of problems in the Mormon Community but this isn't it. Why are you lying and trying to drive a wedge between Mormons and the rest of America?

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 8:55 PM  

@134

I don't know if I've been defended...or insulted!

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 8:58 PM  

Jeffrey,

I could tell you the name, the date, the room at church, and practically the TIME this statement was made...and I could PROBABLY get the guy who said it to admit it (if I wasn't "banned" from stepping foot on any Mormon property world-wide).

But you go ahead and keep calling me a liar.

Anonymous Zion's Paladin November 03, 2016 9:01 PM  

@Will

I'm sorry to hear that Will. God be with you and keep you in this time of trouble, as well as your children.

Since this came about because of your witness for Jesus, it seems appropriate to say this:

And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. Matt 19:29

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 9:08 PM  

@139

That's consolation, Zion's Paladin, but, to be honest, I'd rather have my wife back than a hundred others in worlds to come.

Just to try to steer this thread back on topic, this is why I'm voting for Trump:

http://in200wordsorless.blogspot.com/2016/11/about-trump.html

Anonymous Jack Amok November 03, 2016 9:13 PM  

Already here. We share a border with Idaho

Blogger Fenris Wulf November 03, 2016 9:18 PM  

>>>Some of my ancestors cut out human hearts and flayed people as part of their religious ceremonies

Yeah, well, MY ancestors burned people alive inside a giant wicker man. (One of my favorite movies BTW.)

Blogger Orville November 03, 2016 9:23 PM  

Geez every religion has it's Pharisaical Fuckworth. Glad you found the true Christ Will. Shake the dust off and leave them to their doom.

Blogger Fenris Wulf November 03, 2016 9:24 PM  

And if you've read "The Golden Bough" it would appear that EVERY culture has customs and rituals that point to a history of human sacrifice. Not to mention the story of Jephthah.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 9:49 PM  

Thank you, Orville.

On a different note, the media is STILL dumping on Trump and not mentioning ANYTHING about Hillary. NBC said the FBI WASN'T investigating her! In fact, they're accusing Republicans now (on NBC) of "disenfranchising" blacks (by taking them off the voting rolls) and thus "stealing" the election!

It's AMAZING! NBC is a COMPLETE sell-out for Clinton. The best explanation I have is that the government is "bought" by a global business/media conglomerate that controls EVERYTHING (and seeks to retain power at ALL costs).

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 10:04 PM  

This from FB and Khaden Pettingill:

Gadianton Government
.
In the Book of Mormon we read of various small secret groups of conspiring people of who form secret societies and alliances to obtain power and wealth. As a result, these people managed in just a few short years to bring entire nations, governments, and civilizations down into utter destruction. These people worked in secrecy to conceal their evil doings. On the outside they may have appeared to be benevolent good leaders, yet their wicked influence and power were felt by all. They were able to lead the masses into wickedness, iniquity, and abominations. In the Book of Mormon these people were called the Gadianton robbers. Although that group of people has long left the earth, their leader, Satan (Helaman 6:26-30), still exist today and he continues his work through his servants to bring men into bondage and captivity.
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“And behold, it is he who is the author of all sin. And behold, he doth carry on his works of darkness and secret murder, and doth hand down their plots, and their oaths, and their covenants, and their plans of awful wickedness, from generation to generation according as he can get hold upon the hearts of the children of men.”
(Helaman 6:30)
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These people would band together in secrecy to protect one another from having to answer to the law.
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“But behold, Satan did stir up the hearts of the more part of the Nephites, insomuch that they did unite with those bands of robbers, and did enter into their covenants and their oaths, that they would protect and preserve one another in whatsoever difficult circumstances they should be placed, that they should not suffer for their murders, and their plunderings, and their stealings….And thus they might murder, and plunder, and steal, and commit whoredoms and all manner of wickedness, contrary to the laws of their country and also the laws of their God”
(Helaman 6:21,23)
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Sound familiar? Hillary Clinton has been put in several difficult circumstances where, according to the law, she should be in prison. With the help of those loyal to her cause, she has yet to suffer for her murders, plunderings, and stealings. Through secret combinations, she has attained to the position of power she currently holds and may attain to the highest position of power in the land.
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The Clintons belong to that secret society of the Devil. They have their secret murders, their plots, their oaths, their covenants, and their plans of awful wickedness. If Hillary becomes president she will have the power to fill the upcoming vacancies in the Supreme Court, or in other words appoint the "chief judges" of our land, thus giving power to those she has conspired with and who are part of this modern day band of "Gadianton Robbers".
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The members of those secret combinations will then have sole management of the government - a precursor for the everlasting destruction of a civilization.
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Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 10:04 PM  

(cont.)

“And thus they [Gadianton Robbers] did obtain the SOLE MANAGEMENT of the government, insomuch that they did trample under their feet and smite and rend and turn their backs upon the poor and the meek, and the humble followers of God. And thus we see that they were in an awful state, and RIPENING FOR AN EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION. “
(Helaman 6:39–40)
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If Hillary Clinton is allowed to obtain that power, if Satan gains sole management of the government, if what was started 8 years ago continues, you can kiss your so-called freedom and constitution goodbye. This nation will no longer be under the protection of the Almighty God. This nation will be brought into captivity and bondage.
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The God of this land declared in covenant language concerning this continent:
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“And now, we can behold the decrees of God concerning this land, that it is a land of promise; and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall serve God, or they shall be swept off when the fulness of his wrath shall come upon them. And the fulness of his wrath cometh upon them when they are RIPENED in iniquity.
For behold, this is a land which is choice above all other lands; wherefore he that doth possess it shall serve God or shall be swept off; for it is the everlasting decree of God. And it is not until the fulness of iniquity among the children of the land, that they are swept off.
And this cometh unto you, O ye Gentiles, that ye may know the decrees of God—that ye may repent, and not continue in your iniquities until the fulness come, that ye may not bring down the fulness of the wrath of God upon you as the inhabitants of the land have hitherto done.
Behold, this is a choice land, and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall be free from bondage, and from captivity, and from all other nations under heaven, if they will but serve the God of the land, who is Jesus Christ, who hath been manifested by the things which we have written.”
(Ether 2:9–12)
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May God so help us this election

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 10:05 PM  

"On a different note, the media is STILL dumping on Trump and not mentioning ANYTHING about Hillary"

I wouldn't say that. Fox beat her corpse with a rusty crowbar all night.

Blogger bob kek mando ( I are Spartacus ... and you can too! C'mon, give it a try, these crosses are way more comfy than they look ) November 03, 2016 10:07 PM  

i vote for whichever method of genocide involves shoving their faces into a bowl of Cheetos until they can ingest no more and they asphyxiate on the dust.



46. dagwood November 03, 2016 5:18 PM
And for engaging in Mormography.



i should set up a booth from which i dispense free Mormograms?


55. Nate November 03, 2016 5:40 PM
Its all fun and games till you realize some poor bastard is gonna have lead an assault on Larry Corriea at Yard Moose Mountain.


we're gonna need a bigger Cheeto.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY November 03, 2016 10:08 PM  

Will, your being way too nice with Farnsworth , who is butthurt over you spilling the beans on getting churched by the Moroni bunch to the gentiles here. Find you a good Baptist Church and get on with your life, you will be way better off. Prayers for you and yours, sir.

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson November 03, 2016 10:08 PM  

For the audience, how do we know that everything Will wrote is pure shitthatdidnthappen.txt? Well it's simple. The only way that you can get excommunicated from the Mormon Church is by starting an organization that is against the Church's teachings AND you actively recruit members into it. For example Kate Kelly was this disgusting SJW who started that whole "Ordain Women" movement.

She went around and recruited women into her group and demanded that the Mormon Church ordain women into the priesthood. She took her desires to the media and of course (((the media))) ran with it. She and her followers demanded entrance into Priesthood Session of General Conference which is the men's only session.

Still after doing all of this Mormon Church leaders pleaded with her to stop recruiting people. For over 1 year Mormon Church leaders pleaded with Kate Kelly to stop recruiting women into her movement and she refused. After over a year of Kate Kelly rebelling AND recruiting people into her following did Mormon Church leaders excommunicate her.

So here's the thing. If Mormon Church leaders are going to be so patient with one annoying SJW who was actively recruiting people into her movement to overthrow the Church how much more patient would they be with one man with a big family who had some doctrinal concerns? They wouldn't excommunicate him under any circumstances.

And here's the thing. This guy will wasn't even Mormon. You can tell from his so called horror story that he took it from some Evangelical defense against Mormons packet. I've read a bunch of these propaganda tools on my mission and they were full of made up stories like this.

The real tragedy is this guy Will is working to poison the relationship between Mormons and Christians in America. If America is going to survive we are going to need all people of good heart working together. Mormons, Christians, Catholics and Protestants all must be 100% united if we are going to save the country. It's the reason why we all hate Evan McMullin and his dorky followers so much. They are blatantly dividing the people who can stop Hillary Clinton and the Democrats from having a permanent majority and being able to push their poz down our throats.

I hope that the great people here will recognize that Will is full of crap and working to divide all of us instead of helping all of us to unite and save the West.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 10:09 PM  

"But be advised that if anyone comes to my house with the intent to harm me or mine or force me or mine out they will be met with a face full of buckshot."

not even for +6 Holy Underwear?

ok ok..

what about +8?

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 10:24 PM  

@151 Jeffrey Johnson

I'm not Mormon? (Well, of course I'm not. I was excommunicated!)

Nate remembers me (I bet). I used to write here quite a bit.

Did you READ any of those links I sent you from my blog? (My blog goes back to 2008. That's a LOT of typing if I was trying to "put one over" on you!)

My ACTUAL NAME is on my blog, right there on the right. I'm not anonymous. I was referenced by articles in the Salt Lake Tribune, in fact.

http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/sltrib/news/58089335-78/church-leaders-local-bishop.html.csp

Nobody I know personally is trying to (or has tried) to start another church...or attack the Mormon church...or try to change its leadership, etc. We simply testify of Christ.

My "disagreements" (if you even want to call them that) are WELL LAID OUT in the links I sent you! You can see what I wrote FOR YEARS before they excommunicated me.

EVERY WORD I wrote is TRUE, Mr. Johnson. EVERY WORD.

Blogger VD November 03, 2016 10:26 PM  

And here's the thing. This guy will wasn't even Mormon. You can tell from his so called horror story that he took it from some Evangelical defense against Mormons packet. I've read a bunch of these propaganda tools on my mission and they were full of made up stories like this.

Actually, Jeffro, while I can't speak to his alleged "excommunication", Good Will is definitely a former Mormon. He's been around for years and along with a few other Mormons would occasionally try to steer the discourse around to discussing Mormonism.

It's a bit ironic that you don't believe he was one now. If it's a hoax, it's one that has been an awfully long time in the making.

Blogger VD November 03, 2016 10:28 PM  

This would appear to settle the matter of his veracity concerning the basic facts. From the Salt Lake Tribune article linked above:

Here are others Mormons disciplined in recent months or facing church censure:

• Will Carter of Indio, Calif., was excommunicated in April after his blog, In 200 Words or Less, and conversations with fellow Mormons led his bishop to accuse him of apostasy. Carter said in an interview that he openly wondered how the church could better help those whose testimonies were rocked by information found on the internet and he openly spoke about one of Snuffer's books, which he found "positively inspiring and truth-filled." His bishop's idea, he said, "was for me to shut up, to not tell anybody."

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 10:36 PM  

Thanks, VD.

Blogger Lobo Util November 03, 2016 10:37 PM  

I find it funny that folks who are against SJW's co-opting organizations don't recognize Will's method of trying to co-opt the Mormon church. The Mormon's did exactly what VD suggests you do to someone trying to use your own rules to shift the organization: Kick them out.

Will's blog shows he is very serious. So even though he was following the basic rules, it was time to kick him out.

Blogger Lobo Util November 03, 2016 10:45 PM  

I wish you the best Will.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 10:53 PM  

@157

Fair enough, Lobo Util.

The internet has made possible for LDS (and those investigating the LDS Church) to learn facts that have heretofore been suppressed by the LDS Church.

When people encounter these facts for the first time, even as they are revealed and acknowledged by reputable LDS sources (including LDS.org), one of two things (usually) happens:

If they are already Mormon, they say: "Holy cow! The LDS church is a fake, a cult built on lies, using fear and intimidation to try to keep members in line."

And if they're NOT Mormon, they say: "HOLY SHIT! The LDS church is a fake, a cult built on lies, using fear and intimidation to try to keep members in line."

ACTIVE Mormons are encouraged to study Mormon history very carefully...but not TOO carefully...or they'll go INACTIVE.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 11:12 PM  

I don't want to spend any more time "beating up" on the Mormon Church or LDS people in general. Truth is, they're good people who THINK they worship and follow Jesus Christ (by and large).

I would submit that they DO worship Jesus Christ, to the best of their ability...which is pretty damn good, I'd say!

The "problem" is that their church (like America) has "evolved" since 1830. (In fact, the LDS-American congruency tracks pretty well.) The Mormonism of Joseph Smith is utterly unrecognizable to Mormons today, just as modern America would be a shocking affront to any patriot of 1776 or 1812.

The simple truth is, modern Mormonism has strayed FAR from its roots -- even as modern America has strayed from Constitutional government. Modern Mormons don't recognize what has been lost, altered or forgotten, just as most Americans today are oblivious to their forfeited and forsaken rights and privileges.

Just as modern patriots are awakening Americans to their dilemma and the fight to come, several in the Mormon Church have, at great cost to themselves, endeavored to tell Mormons what they have lost.

(My friends -- Rock Waterman, Tim Malone, Brent Larsen, Rob Smith -- and I have blogs...and we've all been excommunicated or forced to resign our membership from the Mormon Church.) If you read our blogs, you'll see we are not UNFAITHFUL people!

It is not uncommon for the most studious and diligent in the Mormon faith to be cast out -- because they KNOW what is going on! (Just as the MSM marginalizes and pillories those of us who speak out in defense of what our Founders once bequeathed to U.S.)

I'm going to say this -- and I hope you hear me, Jeffrey Johnson and Mike Farnsworth -- but I am NOT a foe of "Mormonism". Rather, I am a faithful believer in the "restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ" initiated in these last days through Joseph Smith.

I BELIEVE the Book of Mormon! I am CONFIDENT it is true scripture, inspired of heaven. I am CONFIDENT Christ is returning soon. And I don't want to see lost ANY of the gospel truths that were restored, beginning in 1820.

Unfortunately, the LDS Church is moving AWAY from what was revealed through Joseph Smith...just as America is moving AWAY from the Constitution our Framers delivered to U.S.

You don't have to throw out the baby with the bathwater just because the LDS Church (or America) has gone off the rails, theologically, historically, or spiritually.

Zion WILL be established. Christ WILL return. His people WILL be gathered.

And some of us reading here may very well have the chance to be there when it happens.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY November 03, 2016 11:12 PM  

Will has been around here for many years, I have tied into it with over the Moroni Baloney. And by God above, If he needs help from me and my prayers , I'll be there for him, you can bet on that.
Maybe we'll get you to chuck the Smithite shuck and jive before we are done.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 11:20 PM  

"Nate remembers me (I bet). I used to write here quite a bit."

he does indeed. and I see VD obviously does as well. Many do. No doubt.

Blogger Nate November 03, 2016 11:21 PM  

"
I BELIEVE the Book of Mormon! I am CONFIDENT it is true scripture, inspired of heaven. I am CONFIDENT Christ is returning soon. And I don't want to see lost ANY of the gospel truths that were restored, beginning in 1820."

Crap...

Someone is gonna have tell poor Josh he's no longer the gayest thing here.

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 11:43 PM  

Okay, friends (if I can call you friends), I understand you're not "with me" regarding Joseph Smith, the BoM, etc. I got it. And that's "okay".

Truth is...what you know...or THINK you know...about the Mormon "religion" isn't the full truth. It's MUCH different than that. Not even the Mormons, by and large, know what they're talking about. It has ALL been screwed up!

Then this guy -- who claims to have met Jesus Christ personally -- came along and is straightening it all out! He's meshing the historical record -- what REALLY happened -- with the doctrine (including all the mistakes).

And you know what? I think he's right! His name is Denver Snuffer. He says he has met Jesus Christ personally. He has seen Him. They have spoken face to face. And he says that the earth is about to be laid waste unless people begin to repent and come unto Christ.

He says Christ wants to meet us -- you and me -- face-to-face. He's even written a book on it: "The Second Comforter: Conversing with the Lord through the Veil". He says you HAVE to know Jesus Christ, personally, believe in Him, and repent of your sins, in order to be saved. (Believing in Christ is great! Good for you!) But you have to KNOW Him...and be SAVED by Him. (Jesus does this "saving" Himself. He greets you, cleanses you of your sins, and ministers to you IN YOUR FLESH personally, by Himself, when you are saved by Him. It is the SAME for EVERYONE!)

I'm not talking about the "coming unto Jesus", "I believe!" confession of sin or even being baptized. I'm talking about MEETING CHRIST IN THE FLESH. (Like you and I would meet if I were there or you were here. THAT kind of "meet" and "knowing" each other.)

Denver says that's what God is prepared to give us -- and has ALWAYS been prepared to give us. But few ever take Him up on His offer!

That's where I'm "at"... in case you're interested.

(And thanks, Nate, for the kind word....sort of.)

Blogger Good Will November 03, 2016 11:49 PM  

@161

Thank you, jOHN MOSBY! Your help and prayers are appreciated.

Blogger Unknown the Elder November 04, 2016 12:05 AM  

Meh. Will and his buddies are a slightly different kind of apostate from the LDS faith. They apparently have a lot of time on their hands to blog away their soft-sell BS. As an LDS person, I'm not too worried about them. The Church has weathered far worse than this. If they're right, they'll prosper and the Church won't. If not, they and their doctrines will blow away on their own and mostly be forgotten. Just like so many before them.

Anonymous JAG November 04, 2016 12:20 AM  

From my relatively little interaction with both cults, I can't tell much difference between Mormons and Scientologists.

Anonymous Eric the Red November 04, 2016 1:22 AM  

What kind of sin is it if you believe a lie, if you refuse to even consider that it is a lie?

Our society has come down to one existential election, go for broke, roll them snake eyes. But how in the hell did it get to this point in the first place?

Why? Because the left has deliberately lied about its intentions for at least the last 50 years, and the rest of us have believed them. Now of course the alt-right is awake, and realizes that we have been in a war-by-degrees, and that the left does nothing but lie every time it opens its collective mouth. But the rest of society including conservatives, cuckservatives, mormons, churchians, and so-called independents still refuse to understand or to even consider the possibility that they have been lied to while chains have slipped quietly around their necks.

So again, I ask, are they committing a sin by repeatedly believing the lies, by repeatedly refusing to consider that they are being lied to? Is there a Bible verse that covers this? Regardless, as far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to wake up and are willfully ignorant are sinners of the first degree. Woe unto them, for they, too, will have to answer for it.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 04, 2016 1:42 AM  

Yes Eric The Red, it is a sin to willfully believe lies, because that is the same as telling them. I'm not in a position to look up verses, but that's logic.

(It's also an audacious assertion, and I will appreciate correction if I'm wrong.)

Anonymous Ellipsis Lacuna November 04, 2016 1:55 AM  

Christopher Nemelka also saw Jeebus! Check out The Sealed Portion and Without Disclosing My True Identity.

Blogger Sherwood family November 04, 2016 2:45 AM  

Good Will is a Mormon fundamentalist of sorts. He believes the founding doctrines of the LDS church but believes the LDS church has strayed. Which is to say he is not going to go Protestant and is not going to go Catholic. Those who think he is going to join a nice Baptist church don't get it.

He is also dissimulating. Farnsworth is right. You don't get excommunicated for having an opinion. You get excommunicated for teaching your opinion as doctrine in contrast to accepted doctrine and refusing to keep your views personal and private. Good Will is getting the same treatment from the LDS Church that he would get if he were a priest in the Catholic Church publicly teaching something that was contrary to doctrine and which he had been asked to stop doing. Or the Baptist church if he was an ordained Baptist minister and tried to teach his sermons from the Book of Mormon. There would be obvious problems.

Denver Snuffer was excommunicated for his unwillingness to cease teaching as doctrine things that were not accepted as doctrine by the LDS Church.


Anonymous 11/4 November 04, 2016 2:58 AM  

One more data point - never thought much about Mormons (voted Romney), but they've done enough already to lose my trust forever. They're the kind of allies you could never turn your back to.

They vote against Trump, win or lose, fuck'em all. I have little, but no Mormon will get 1 cent, 1 minute of labor - not one act of kindness or charity. Full boycott, and hope they simultaneously die of starvation, hypothermia, AIDS, and Tuberculosis.

Including (especially, fucking traitors) that smarmy, woman pedestalizing, white knighting, NeverTrump cuck Correia. He's intelligent enough to know his treason.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy November 04, 2016 4:06 AM  

JI wrote:I think what's going on is the LDS Church must feel threatened by Trump in some way,
… oh. Maybe they like children too.

Blogger Sherwood family November 04, 2016 4:31 AM  

11/4 I'm a full-throated Trump supporter. He's the best choice for the country in my view. But some of the comments look like people are trying to say I can't be Mormon and American. Don't try to force a choice there. I am shooting in the same direction as the rest of you and would just as soon keep shooting that direction.

Anonymous Luke November 04, 2016 4:31 AM  

This discussion of what to call the next culling of Mormons is not complete without this quote from H.P. Lovecraft's "The Horror At Red Hook":

"O friend and companion of night, thou who rejoicest in the baying of dogs and spilt blood, who wanderest in the midst of shades among the tombs, who longest for blood and bringest terror to mortals, Gorgo, Mormo, thousand-faced moon, look favourably on our sacrifices!"

I wonder where H.P. got that one...

Anonymous Luke November 04, 2016 4:36 AM  

Maybe from one of these?

http://yog-blogsoth.blogspot.com/2012/03/mormo.html

""Infernal and earthly and heavenly Bombo, come. Goddess of waysides, of cross-roads, lightbearer, nightwalker. Hater of the light, lover and companion of the night, Who rejoicest in the baying of hounds and in purple blood; Who dost stalk among corpses and the tombs of the dead, Thirst for blood, who bringest fear to mortals, Gorgo and Mormo and Mene and many-formed one. Come thou propitious to our libations!"
Hippolytus Of Rome, Philosophumena or Refutation Of All Heresies

"The Mormo or Mormolyce, possibly meaning "Banewolf" or "Werewolf", was described as a monstrous female who had originally been deprived of her children. The grief had turned her into a monster that abducted and took the children of others in revenge."
Carol Rose, Giants, Monsters and Dragons

"Oh, what a trembling the Mormo brought us then, when we were little ones!--On its head were huge ears, and it walked on all fours, and changed from one face to another!"
Erinna, The Distaff

"The belief in Mormo and Gorgo is also occasionally found; and Gello, another child-eating monster of classical times"
Henry Fanshawe Tozer, Researches In the Highlands Of Turkey"

Anonymous 11/4 November 04, 2016 4:49 AM  

@173
You can be American and Mormon, so long as your tribe doesn't betray America.

I won't trust a Mormon now that Mormons have proven to be fair weather allies, but I can be (distant) neighbors with Mormons so long as they don't vote to fuck me over with hordes of orcs led by a shrill witch.

This isn't an election. It's a decision between imminent War and potential Peace. I choose peace, but 1 can start a fight.

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 4:58 AM  

@171

Dear Sherwood family,

"He is also dissimulating. Farnsworth is right. You don't get excommunicated for having an opinion. You get excommunicated for teaching your opinion as doctrine in contrast to accepted doctrine and refusing to keep your views personal and private."

Dissimulate: verb (used without object), dissimulated, dissimulating.

2. to conceal one's true motives, thoughts, etc., by some pretense; speak or act hypocritically.

I don't see how I "concealed" anything. It's all right there, plain, in the open. It's the LDS CHURCH that's "dissimulating". (Talk about PROJECTION!)

You wrote: "Denver Snuffer was excommunicated for his unwillingness to cease teaching as doctrine things that were not accepted as doctrine by the LDS Church."

Well, duh. That's what I said. (Read my links. I can't spell it ALL out here for you.)

The LDS Church has MOVED AWAY from its original teachings, doctrine and history. Consequently, in the same way that the MSM portrays any (non-law-enforcement) American who asserts his or her right to carry as a kook, the Mormon Church labels anyone who believes and teaches what Joseph Smith taught -- including the purposes, nature, and workings of God, plural marriage, the fullness of the priesthood, REAL church history, etc. -- as a "heretic" and "apostate".

It's kind of IMPOSSIBLE to be an "active" Mormon today and keep your mouth shut about EVERYTHING you see going astray in the LDS Church. What kind of Mormon would you be? (A dissembler!) NATURALLY I'm going to comment in Sunday School, talk to my hometeaching families, dialogue with Church leaders, write on my blog, etc. IF I TRULY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT AND BELIEVE!

You know, Sherwood family, your smug, dismissive attitude is disturbing.

I'm sure you're familiar with the Primary song "Follow The Prophet". I taught the kids in Primary one Sunday:

"Actually, we're supposed to follow the Savior. Jesus is the One we should be following. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Perhaps we should sing 'Follow the Savior, Follow the Savior, Follow the Savior, He is the Way!'" (I think I actually had them sing it that way!)

The Mormons reading this know their church teaches children to sing "follow the prophet".

The Bishop called me into his office and told me to "never do that again, don't confuse the kids".

Later I taught the kids: "We should seek to be baptised with fire and the Holy Ghost, not just with water. Without the Holy Ghost, our baptism by water won't amount to anything. It's the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost that cleanses us of any desire to sin and brings us back into the presence of God!"

The bishop told me to keep that to myself, too. "Milk before meat", he said.

He didn't think the kids needed to know about being "born again".

When I asked him if he had ever been born again, this was his response: "You mean, have I received the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands by one who has authority sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise? Yeah, sure."

That's how he defined it. He had received an ordinance. He didn't describe being "born again" as having a spiritual manifestation of God or a personal interaction with Deity. (Mormons almost never do. In fact, they routinely ridicule those who claim to having been "born again".)

Because they don't have those experiences, by and large.



Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 4:58 AM  

(cont.)

The testimonies of the ancient prophets, the apostles of Christ's day, the early disciples of Christ (on either side of the Atlantic, and the early Mormon pioneers witnessed in STARK contrast to the watered-down, non-charismatic, miracle-less, witness-less testimony-sharing you'll hear in any Mormon meeting today. Mormons say they "know"...but they DON'T really know. They just "really believe very strongly".

What they LACK is experience with Deity. That's because they RELY on their ordinances and good works to save them (after all, that's all they can do), HOPING that Jesus (up there, somewhere, distantly, quiety, behind-the-scenes) is somehow, someday "saving" them.

They don't KNOW He saves them...because they don't know HIM. They follow a prophet. And trust that the "prophet's" keys will save them. (After all, they teach that God has given His "saving" power unto them. They can "bind and loose" in heaven and on earth!)

So they "cut me loose" and BLEW UP MY FAMILY! (More than I would like to admit.)

I taught the adults in Sunday School that Joseph Smith didn't use the Urim and Thummim he claimed came with the gold plates to translate. In fact, he didn't even use the gold plates at all! He placed a stone (he found while digging a well) into his hat and, looking into that hat and using the stone, "saw" the words he was intended to write.

The bishop acknowledged all that was "true" history, but said I shouldn't teach it, because "the Brethren haven't taught that". "We don't teach anything unless the Brethren tell us to", he said.

"But that's the truth!"

He quoted Boyd K. Packer: "Some things that are true are not very useful." He didn't think it was very "useful" or "faith promoting" to know how Joseph Smith REALLY translated the Book of Mormon.

"But it's on South Park! It's not a secret! They're going to find out anyway!"

He silenced me...and removed me from all of my callings.

I was excommunicated shortly thereafter.

Anonymous Luke November 04, 2016 5:07 AM  

Good Will, let me save you a bunch of time. The Bible (the holy book of Christians, the latter of which you claim to be) says that men claiming to be prophets will only utter truth. Joseph Smith uttered innumerable untruths, hence he was not a valid prophet of the Christian God, hence Christians may, and should disregard everything he said was revealed truth. So much for Mormonism.

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 5:08 AM  

So, dear Sherwood family, you can defend your Mormon church all you want, while I testify of Christ and teach the truth (as I understand it).

(Unfortunately, I couldn't continue doing that and stay a Mormon.)

To paraphrase our Savior: which of the prophets have you NOT persecuted?

(I assure you, it's more than you know.)

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 5:10 AM  

I'm looking forward to seeing what a Trump presidency can accomplish. I have NO HOPE that he can "save" America. As I said on my blog:

"Barring some great religious reformation (heretofore unforeseen), if Donald J. Trump wins the U.S. presidency, he will (at best) only forestall the capsize of America’s ship of state into a sea of greater tyranny, insolvency and martial chaos."

http://in200wordsorless.blogspot.com/2016/10/no-king-but-jesus.html

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 5:13 AM  

@180

Luke, I think we're far enough down this thread now that VD will "forgive" a little "jaywalking". (He has already forgive a lot!)

Can you think of ANY true prophets in the Bible who lied? (I can.) If so, your point is invalid.

Blogger Sherwood family November 04, 2016 5:19 AM  

Good Will, you and I are going to fundamentally disagree here.

I'm not being smug or dismissive. I am saying that none of the above would get you excommunicated. You've left out details or elided things that happened. I've been on disciplinary councils. There's a way these things work. And what you've described isn't it.

I've said and taught pretty much everything you've mentioned in the preceding post. At Church, in front of my bishop. Nobody batted an eye.

It's possible you had a crappy bishop (happens) and perhaps even a lousy stake president (happens). But to get the whole high council involved to get you excommunicated takes serious effort. You don't have that happen because you disagreed with your bishop. That doesn't happen because you have weird or speculative views.

It happens if you are teaching that the Church as a whole has gone astray and that we need to follow Denver Snuffer as a source of doctrine. Again, you're free to see things as you want, obviously, but you're not the only one around here that's been involved with Church discipline.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 04, 2016 5:39 AM  

He says you HAVE to know Jesus Christ, personally, believe in Him, and repent of your sins, in order to be saved.
There is not a single Christian here who would disagree with this statement, including us Catholics.
I can't speak for Mormons, however.

Eric the Red wrote:So again, I ask, are they committing a sin by repeatedly believing the lies, by repeatedly refusing to consider that they are being lied to?
No. God is not particular about what exactly you believe. It's iportant, mostly because what you believe is what you pass on, But belief itself doesn't save, any more than works of the law. Look to the revealed truth of the second coming in Matthew:
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

That's what necessary. Yet Paul says "And if I should distribute all my goods to feed the poor, and if I should deliver my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profits me nothing." For it is only a relationship with Christ that takes our worthless works and sanctifies them to His service.

Nowhere is scripture will you see anyone condemned because of belief, only actions. But acts do not save, only love of Christ.

So our friend Will here is on his way to salvation, if he holds steady to the truth.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 04, 2016 5:49 AM  

After all, no human can believe in God as solidly and thoroughly as Satan does.

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 5:53 AM  

Yes, Snidely, the scriptures say "for even the devils believe and tremble".

Blogger Sherwood family November 04, 2016 5:55 AM  

There's no Mormon that disagrees with that either.

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 6:00 AM  

Sherwood family,

The decision to excommunicate me (unrighteously and unlawfully) came from the top down, not the bottom up (as the scriptures allow). My (former) stake president was TOLD to excommunicate me by a Seventy, who was (likely) told by Russell M. Nelson (who is someone I respect).

I, for one, publicly voiced support for Denver Snuffer's thesis "Preserving the Restoration". Denver was no "threat" to the Mormon Church, only to its demonstrably erroneous narratives, altered doctrines, history and ordinances, and (consequently) its false teachers and practices. But that didn't make him (or me) anti-Mormon, anymore than my opposing the MSM, SJW and Left make me anti-American.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2016 6:02 AM  

But some of the comments look like people are trying to say I can't be Mormon and American.

Vox's underlying point, which he's been making for a while, is that once things reach a point where the majority gets fed up with the actions of a minority in general, they don't go to the nicety of sorting the wheat from the chaff. They just say, "You're one of them? Get out (or worse)." So if you belong to a group that's undermining the nation, your group is putting you at risk, whether you like it or not. You can do your best to disassociate yourself from the group politically, and that might help, if you can point to proof that you worked against the undermining. But that's not easy, and you might get caught in the purge anyway.

That doesn't mean anyone here is hoping for a purge. I'd hate to see it myself, especially since I think this Utah-McMullin thing was cooked up by guys who (((aren't even Mormon))), so an attack on Mormons would miss the true culprits. But purges aren't about making sense.

As a different example, I'm Catholic, and Catholic Charities is working to undermine America through the refugee resettlement program. I don't give them any money (though they do other good works), or give to my church in any way that could get dollars to them. I speak out against it when I can. And if undermining by Catholics ever reached a point where the non-Catholic majority started grumbling about it, I'd see it as my duty to try to stop the undermining myself, because I could easily be blamed along with the rest.

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 6:08 AM  

@184

Sherwood family,

And before you make any more sweeping pronouncements about what I've "dissimulated" or "elided", please read my blog (or otherwise move on), so that you will, at least, be informed (as NONE of those who excommunicated me were).

Blogger Sherwood family November 04, 2016 6:14 AM  

Good Will, again, we are going to have to disagree.

Saying that Denver Snuffer was not a problem is the same as saying its okay to let SJWs into an organization because advocacy of their personal views is not a problem.

Once you get to the point where your advocacy of a particular view is putting you at odds with the purpose of the organization you are a member of it's time for there to be a parting of ways.

No denomination that I know of allows for its membership to go around teaching against fundamental beliefs and doctrines without some kind of reckoning. Those come in various flavors but try asking a Baptist minister if it is okay for Baptists to preach that church members should offer prayers of devotion to Mary. Not going to go over well. Or ask a Catholic priest if preaching that Sola Scriptura and Sola Fida are doctrines is going be met with a smile.

You cannot expect that there is not going to be a response to those kinds of actions.

But, as you say, if the Mormons have gone all wrong, then lucky you. You are free of them and can go about doing what you think you've got to do.

Blogger Sherwood family November 04, 2016 6:16 AM  

Cail Corishev, you make a good point. I have been pushing on those that I know who think this Evan McMullin thing makes sense. It doesn't. There's no there there. It looks like a set up to me. Some see reason. Others don't.

Blogger Lobo Util November 04, 2016 10:46 AM  

Wow, Good Will, I'll go down this road again. You are an incredible example!

Your actions and arguments about the Mormon church come straight out of SJW's Always Lie.
1. SJW's always lie.
That they kicked you out only for refusing to say you believe in their God. That was communication given with intent to deceive. In other words, a lie.
2. Doubling down over and over.
You insisted the trial, judges, jury, all the Mormons in the area, and your wife wouldn't listen to your simple arguments of pure Mormon theology delivered with pure love.
3. Projection
Your biggest fear is that all those folks might say you are an apostate and that you no longer believe in Jesus and Joseph Smith. That makes you accuse the whole Mormon church of being apostates that no longer believe in Jesus and Joseph Smith. If I wanted to get under your skin I would follow the SJW book's advice and nail you with related screeds.

Blogger RobertT November 04, 2016 12:46 PM  

My forebears were on THE TRAIN. If I were Mormon (I'm reliably informed) I would be some kind of royalty.

Blogger Skyler the Weird November 04, 2016 7:18 PM  

This got me curious to see who Democrat LDS science fiction writer Orson Scott Card was voting for? He's pushing Egg McMuffin but since he can't be written in in NC he's voting for Pothead Johnson.

Blogger Docent November 04, 2016 8:15 PM  

@Good Will,

I read the blog posts that you cited the in one of your replies, and tried to find the portions of the Joseph Smith papers to which you cited. I could not find anything you quoted whether by page number or date. I note that you hold that unless Christ appears to a person, personally and face to face, that person cannot be saved. I suspect that had something to do with your excommunication.

Blogger Docent November 04, 2016 8:16 PM  

@Good Will,

I read the blog posts that you cited the in one of your replies, and tried to find the portions of the Joseph Smith papers to which you cited. I could not find anything you quoted whether by page number or date. I note that you hold that unless Christ appears to a person, personally and face to face, that person cannot be saved. I suspect that had something to do with your excommunication.

Blogger Good Will November 04, 2016 9:36 PM  

Lobo Util,

I do not recognize anything you wrote above has something I advocate. You're rephrasing or restating my position does not represent my Views at all!

I never refused to say I believe in the Mormon God. Mormons believe in God the Father and Jesus Christ. So do I!

I never said all the Mormons in my area or my wife wouldn't listen to my simple explanations if you're Mormon theology delivered with pure love. On the contrary! That's why the leaders silenced me! They didn't want anyone to listen! I didn't expect very many people to understand what I believe. (Just as I do not expect most Americans to understand the legacy they have lost and let slip away from them.) Not being understood by many or even any is par for the course.

I'm not afraid anyone might think I have lost my faith in Jesus Christ or the prophetic Ministry of Joseph Smith. I just wanted to make that clear. If you're going to call me an apostate, at least do it for the right reasons!

Maybe I am misunderstanding your intent. Are you trying to do with me what SJWs always do and misrepresent my views? I think a more productive effort would be to show how the Mormon church has been taken over by SJWs.

Blogger Lobo Util November 05, 2016 8:35 PM  

Good Will, I am not making any comment on your theology. I am making a comment about your methods and mind.

You are right, I remembered your first post wrong. Your first post contained the following:

" (I couldn't "pledge allegiance" to "the living prophet" and promise to do WHATEVER THE HELL HE SAYS, NO MATTER WHAT....so they kicked me out.) You may be surprised to hear that the 15 Mormon "high priests" who supervised my "ouster" actually asked me: "Do you believe Jesus Christ is our PERSONAL Savior?" When I said "Yes, absolutely!" one of them said "That's false doctrine!" NOT ONE OF THOSE MEN DISAGREED. "

"Pledge allegiance to the living prophet" is a great piece of rhetoric, but obviously not why you were given the boot. I had remembered the "personal Savior" comment as the reason. Sorry.

Either way, it still stands. Your blog and subsequent entries prove that statement a lie (communication given with intent to deceive.) You are one amazing SJW doing all the stuff in SJW's Always Lie. I find the "projection" part of your mental setup to be the most amazing part. Accusing all those Mormons of the things you fear the most, and apparently believing you can read the minds and hearts of all those folks. You are wonderful. Seriously, it has been very interesting and exciting to see all this played out. Thank you. And best wishes - God be with you.

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