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Tuesday, November 01, 2016

The last days of #NeverTrump

No matter how the election turns out, the #NeverTrump crowd have permanently discredited themselves:
Now that we seem to be having a non-stop stream of evidence (as if we needed it) that the Obama and forthcoming Clinton administrations are basically a crime syndicate, stretching from the Department of Justice, through the FBI, and into the IRS -- and an international one at that, with tentacles, via the Clinton Foundation, all the way to Moscow and Riyadh -- it's time for the NeverTrumpers to take a final look at their position.

Do they want to enable such a crime syndicate to be running the U.S. government? And if so, how do they expect it ever to end, if not now? Through litigation? Under whose auspices? Do they not think, if Hillary is elected, that the paramount goal of her administration will be to further entrench the syndicate, making it impermeable to change, turning the USA into the ghost of itself? These things happen in history.

Not simple, is it?

If I were writing my book on moral narcissism today, I would have to add a chapter on the NeverTrumpers, because -- like it or not -- their stance, while once idealistic, at this point seems rather too substantially based on self-regard. They want to have "clean hands" to avoid any tarnishing by the unseemly Mr. Trump.

Well, fine. But where does that leave the rest of us? Where does that leave the country?
I don't know how it is going to be possible for anyone on the right to take the cucks and neocons seriously again. I certainly hope conservatives will show better sense than to listen to them or give them credence in the future.

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140 Comments:

Blogger Boko Harambe November 01, 2016 1:35 PM  

They will not listen, because they do not. The cannot. It would kill their souls.

I have lots of pro-DEM, Never Trump, feminist, libtard, you name it, family members. They reel in pain at rhetoric and pretend facts don't exist. Wikileaks? Don't exist. Podesta e-mails? Don't exist.

It's part of some weakness of never, ever admitting you could be wrong, or were wrong. I respect how difficult that can be, but it doesn't change reality.

Anonymous Faceless November 01, 2016 1:39 PM  

I see Ben Shapiro is trying desperately to make himself look pro-Trump by being anti-Clinton lately.

The veil is dropped, and the entire respectable conservative media con has been shown to be complete malarkey from the moment George Will put on his bow tie. Fox News is going to be supplanted by all sorts of options, especially as the Boys Murdoch are progressive feminists. At least we know they are finally real journalists since they hate their audience.

Blogger Happy Housewife November 01, 2016 1:41 PM  

It's just another shade of pride. Too proud to admit they were wrong, or that they backed the wrong horse, or that they're acting more holier than thou than usual.

We know what the Bible says about pride, after all.

Blogger Elocutioner November 01, 2016 1:42 PM  

"Do they want to enable such a crime syndicate to be running the U.S. government?"

For the "leadership" - yes. Who signs their paychecks? McMuffin is "former" CIA. Coincidentally, so was Buckley.

As for their spergy cuck readership - they have no moral authority being good men that stood by doing nothing. Lukewarm. But at least their cloaks are clean and unsoiled from that nasty bit of fighting.

Blogger slarrow November 01, 2016 1:43 PM  

A couple of weeks ago when things looked bad, I saw several NeverTrumpers warn of recriminations after the election. What they don't realize is what the recriminations will look like after Trump wins.

They thought they were orchestrating a coup. But what they were doing was signing up for a purge.

Anonymous mature-Craig November 01, 2016 1:45 PM  

I heard Bill Kristal say the other day "..maybe Trump isn't so bad" and then I started thinking ok maybe Kristal isn't so bad, that's how easily peace can spread

Blogger Innostran November 01, 2016 1:46 PM  

@3 Lol, obviously a troll or mentally deficient.

Blogger Weouro November 01, 2016 1:48 PM  

I definitely hope Trump wins, but if he doesn't I hope he revives the Bull Moose Party for 2020. The Republican party deserves to die one way or another.

Blogger Orville November 01, 2016 1:49 PM  

Bush who? McCancerface, sorry, never heard of you.

Blogger slarrow November 01, 2016 1:49 PM  

@3 Dude, you're working off last week's script. Check your email for this week's talking points. Sadly, payments will be delayed pending the results of next week's events.

Blogger Robert Divinity November 01, 2016 1:51 PM  

They thought they were orchestrating a coup. But what they were doing was signing up for a purge.

They indeed are marked.

There is a distinction between neocons and cucks, largely in that the former realizes it is running a con to undermine America and the latter basically believes the bullshit the communists have pumped into the culture. Both are cancers to excise ASAP.

Blogger Orville November 01, 2016 1:52 PM  

Now that I'm voting for the first time in 12 years, my only dilemma is should I
(a) vote just Trump and nobody lower on the ticket, or
(b) vote just Trump and whoever is NOT R or D down ticket.

Which conveys the loudest fuck you?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 01, 2016 1:57 PM  

These days it's like the left goes to Trigglypuff for their memes. They ain't no good, even their "artists" ain't no good, get a load of Dunham's Halloween get up, never mind Cyrus, she is not even mainstage Scores.

Anonymous That Will Be Telling November 01, 2016 1:58 PM  

@3 Josh Silverstone:

Geez, the echo chamber you alt-righters live in is frightening.

NO ONE THINKS LIKE YOU GUYS


Except, you know, all those people voting for Trump?

Maybe not enough to win the election, especially beyond the "margin of cheating", but those numbers are not "nobody."

As a variety of cuck and traitors will find out if they win if or more likely when they can't restrain themselves from attacking us, especially us "irredeemables" who don't, in return, have any nice options.

Blogger pyrrhus November 01, 2016 2:01 PM  

"They thought they were orchestrating a coup. But what they were doing was signing up for a purge."
Regardless of the election result....

Blogger Fenris Wulf November 01, 2016 2:01 PM  

I remember when the Fox News Channel was created 20 years ago and how mind-blowing it was to see unadulterated conservative views on TV. It just shows how locked-down the media was before then. In retrospect, FNC was watered-down phony conservatism designed to cash in on an underserved market.

Blogger StrawMan November 01, 2016 2:02 PM  

Given that Trump had the Clintons at his wedding and he is involved in a December trial for his ties to the Epstein pedo ring, aren't we making a big assumption that Trump winning will crumble this large "syndicate"?

Blogger VFM #7634 November 01, 2016 2:02 PM  

@Orville

I'd say at the very least to not vote for any R who has ever repudiated Trump. I'd still definitely vote for stalwart Trump allies like Sen. Jeff Sessions, since he'll need all the allies he can get.

Anonymous 11B November 01, 2016 2:03 PM  

Frank Luntz said nevertrump would release something on Wednesday that would be devastating. Any ideas on what they might have, or is this just a bluff?

Anonymous WaterBoy November 01, 2016 2:04 PM  

I finally figured out why so many non-Americans are so concerned about Trump winning.

You see, if Trump makes America great again, there is less room at the top for the ascendency of their own countries.

Kinda throws a new spin on Putin backing Trump, too....

Blogger pyrrhus November 01, 2016 2:06 PM  

It is true that having to admit that most of your belief system is false, and your leaders fraudulent and deceptive and in it for the money, is a Dark Night of the Soul.....Nevertheless, if you can't go through that process and adjust to reality, you will be and deserve to be road kill on the path of history.

Blogger Alexander November 01, 2016 2:06 PM  

We'll see if Kristol and Shapiro go full Pelosi/Michelle/Mook and mass delete tweets over the past year. The purge begins at home, cucks!

They are doomed. Chris Matthews is anti-Hillary now! Google is autocompleting. Obama is letting Comey get on with it.

I hope they all rot, and it looks like I'm going to get a good part of that wish. Hell, we might even get coughing fit, pants of shit before the concession speech finishes.

Keep plugging away lads! We've almost seen the first election where a candidate was shitposted into oblivion.

On serious note - what does this do to Congress. Do Ryan & friends keep their heads down and let Trump run the first 100 days without a peep? Or do they see themselves as the last, last, last, last line that must stump the #Trump?

Anonymous BrerFox November 01, 2016 2:06 PM  

My version is to vote non-binary first, and against the incumbent in all cases.

Blogger CarpeOro November 01, 2016 2:07 PM  

Being by far primarily Neo-cons, with a direct philosophical lineage to Marx, hopefully they'll go home to Israel or the Democratic Party. Or they can stay in the remaining shell of the Republican party, though this election might be the shake up that has been needed there.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey November 01, 2016 2:07 PM  

Conservatives, paleocons, and Alt-Westies need to be made to understand that this is not the time for fence-sitting.

Anonymous Tiny Duck November 01, 2016 2:08 PM  

You guys need to read Rick Wilson

He owns Trumplings on a daily basis on twitter

Listen, Evan McMullin is going to do enough damage to roast you guys

Blogger pyrrhus November 01, 2016 2:08 PM  

@Orville--Trump needs majorities in Congress, even if they are not friendly majorities, to prevent some of the antics of the Democrats...And if the voters show that they support Trump and are hostile to people who obstruct him, the politicians will fall in line.

Blogger Sam Lively November 01, 2016 2:12 PM  

Strange that the Mormons have been among the most die-hard NeverTrump contingents.

I still have a few friends who are third party down the line. One guy flailing around for a protest vote, another lady on the McMullin go-kart, and a few Gary Johnson voters.

Mostly social conservatives accustomed to hating the GOP candidates anyway and oblivious or disinterested in the economic and demographic turmoil going around outside their area.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 01, 2016 2:13 PM  

Need a new name. The Bull Moose Party was the original "progressive" party in American politics.

Blogger Alexander November 01, 2016 2:14 PM  

@19

That's perfectly stated. I'm stealing that.

Anonymous mature-Craig November 01, 2016 2:18 PM  

Strange that the Mormons have been among the most die-hard NeverTrump contingents.

yeah I noticed that,..... this election has not been the Mormon's finest hour in my view.

Anonymous WinstonWebb November 01, 2016 2:19 PM  

Tiny Duck November 01, 2016 2:08 PM
You guys need to read Rick Wilson

He owns Trumplings on a daily basis on twitter

Listen, Evan McMullin is going to do enough damage to roast you guys


The only thing Egghead McMuffin will damage is his magic underwear.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:21 PM  

In the Internet Age there is no statute of limitations for treason. The paradox of the permanent database is that do-overs are themselves over.

On a related topic, given all the projection of the Left, we should expect spasms of disorder as the Trumpslide occurs. The mendacious media will naturally ask why Trumpsters are beating themselves and burning the 7/11's in minority neighborhoods.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:22 PM  

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Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:24 PM  

Related topic: Mr. Market seems to be signaling that there's no more fuel in the rocket. The ending diagonal that he telegraphed since last winter has now evaporated in earnest. Far too early to confirm, but big avalanches start with small snowflakes. We now have three small snowflakes.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 01, 2016 2:25 PM  

And that sort of thinking is why you are a tiny duck instead of a great big soaring eagle who eats tiny ducks for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:26 PM  

Tiny Duck also posts hilarity on Unz.com.

I often think such people simply have humor too subtle for me to follow.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 01, 2016 2:27 PM  

@Pyrrhus - exactly - that's how Reagan got his plan through.

Anonymous KR November 01, 2016 2:29 PM  

#11 -- I voted for Trump and then voted against all incumbents down ticket. Time to drain the Colorado swamp, which is full of sharp-toothed cucks and slimy ne'er Trumpers. Felt great!

Blogger Dirk Manly November 01, 2016 2:30 PM  

Clueless sincerity is always the source for the most subtle humor, due to a complete absence of any attempt to even be funny.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 01, 2016 2:33 PM  

I've long thought that there were four potential outcomes of this election. Major Trump win, Narrow Trump win, Narrow Clinton win, and Major Clinton win.

The NeverTrump crowd was hoping for the latter, intending to use the defeat to whip the populist wing of the GOP into line. This now looks like it will not happen. If Clinton wins at all, it will be by a narrow margin.

And if that happens, there will be a whole lot of Trump voters pointing at NeverTrumpers and saying, "This is YOUR fault."

And there will be a price.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:35 PM  

The 10 Year Treasury yield has added almost 0.6% of yield in just 4 months. That might not sound like much, but it's about a 40% increase in yield over this summer's all time low yield (all time high prices.) It represents an astronomical decline in the capital value of trillions of dollars worth of outstanding debt.

Trump may not be the only landslide in coming months. Maybe the threat to "drain the swamp" is signaling to participants that it's no longer safe to play chicken with Mr. Market. When the game is rigged and the casino is set to change ownership, the cheaters may be set to cash out their chips and run to the Clinton Confab in Qatar.

Anonymous Broken Arrow November 01, 2016 2:36 PM  

The most important election ever!

Anonymous fop November 01, 2016 2:39 PM  

CA senate race is a choice between just stupid and crazy-stupid.

Looks like I'm writing in Chuck Norris again.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 01, 2016 2:43 PM  

40. Broken Arrow November 01, 2016 2:36 PM

"The most important election ever!"

No, that was 2008 and it didn't matter because there really was no viable GOP choice. McCain was just a placeholder.

This is just buying time before the fireworks start.

Anonymous Axe Head November 01, 2016 2:43 PM  

We really need to deal with the Mormon Question.

Blogger Latigo3 November 01, 2016 2:46 PM  

In the end, this is what I see. The #Nevertrumpers were the Kapo's of the concentration camps. I remember hearing Ben Shapiro almost shrieking on his morning radio show out here in Los Angeles. I had some modicum of respect for him, because of the stand he took against the ant-Israel loonies at UCLA; as time went on he just seemed to be getting very irrational. Ben is not the only one, just one of the prominent ones and it began to feel like propaganda. Listening to him was like listening to the arguments of my teenaged daughter, I could at least reason with my daughter.
Whatever creed or color they are, the #Nevertrumpers of the "Conservative" media are the Kapo's of 2016. I will not be lied to anymore

Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:47 PM  

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Blogger Boko Harambe November 01, 2016 2:48 PM  

d.c., I agree with your assessment of the bubbles as our insulators, and that when they burst, wailing and gnashing of teeth may be the least of our problems.

From 2004-2007 I worked for a non-profit that provides domestic and international social services. Qatar was the premier emerging market and we directed a lot of resources and assets to them, but I could never quite imagine why. Above my pay grade to even ask, and all...but Qatar is relatively stable, wealthy, a playground for the rich and famous, a tax-haven...is it also a non-extradition country?

The rot is so deep is has infected even institutions we see as impartial yet net beneficial to our continued success and dominance. Nay, not even impartial, but wholly necessary to the success of our children. At every level, all corporations, for-profit and not-for-profit, are sequestering resources off-shore in the event of what I suspect is a planned, or at least foreseen, collapse. Whether this is in hopes of retaining wealth, making or maintaining alliances, or some audacious plan to set up shop elsewhere, I cannot say. But it stinks like the crap-pile it is, and I really hate that I can see it but can't explain it well enough to open others' eyes.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:48 PM  

@41 same in IL. Kirk vs Duckworth. What lesser evil could one imagine?

I don't know which one is more likely to be RIPPED from office in 2022. Heck, a recall is not out of the question in the interim.

Blogger Basil Makedon November 01, 2016 2:49 PM  

It's interesting to me that the same guys who told me repeatedly to hold my nose and vote for Bush II, for McCain and for Romney suddenly won't hold their nose and vote for Trump.

Was Gore or Kerry worse than Hillary? Was Obama? It seems to me that Hillary is worse than any of them. Obama is just as leftist, but thankfully he is much lazier. Gore and Kerry were merely lukewarm and so I spew them forth.

I don't even like Trump. I don't trust that he's going to drain the swap (its probably impossible) or to build a wall. But, even a 5% chance that he even attempts either of those things is much better than a 0% metaphysical certainty that she will not.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 01, 2016 2:52 PM  

@46, when the music stops, I imagine quite a few people who believed they had a safe place to hide will discover they went from the proverbial frying pan to the obvious. I hope Karma marches the globe multiple times.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 01, 2016 2:54 PM  

We really need to deal with the Mormon Question.

I think the Mormons have you outgunned.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 01, 2016 2:57 PM  

#47 I'm voting libertarian for IL senate, we will end up with another clown D and the Illinois combine will put up a R next time.

Anonymous mature-Craig November 01, 2016 3:03 PM  

also, since I never served in the military its kind of none of my business, but I cant help but be curious about Mormon military service is it less or more or the same as the non Mormon population

Blogger Anchorman November 01, 2016 3:05 PM  

Frank Luntz said nevertrump would release something on Wednesday that would be devastating. Any ideas on what they might have, or is this just a bluff?

Given the latest FBI/email revelation, any attempt by them to damage Trump would certainly put to rest whether they are pro-Hillary or not. Damaging Trump when it could send a presidential nominee under FBI investigation, sending the nation into a constitutional crisis is, well, constitutional malpractice. And if she isn't indicted, you just abetted a known criminal's campaign to reach the highest office.

I genuinely don't understand NEVERTRUMP motivation, other than pro-Hillary, masked as "principle."

In the end, I wonder if their instincts about what is bad are as awful as their instincts about French/McMuffin, etc. They may unleash another tax story or a "shady international deal" story that no one can really articulate other than, "Look at the smoke. There must be something there."

@Basil Makedon, I'm with you on thos points.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 01, 2016 3:06 PM  

Zerohedge running with a story about a FBI leak about a 2001 Clinton Crime Family Foundation investigation.

Blogger Anchorman November 01, 2016 3:12 PM  

also, since I never served in the military its kind of none of my business, but I cant help but be curious about Mormon military service is it less or more or the same as the non Mormon population

I didn't meet any Mormons.

But remember than the Mormons were the subject of a government extermination order. I don't think they'll go quietly.

Blogger Latigo3 November 01, 2016 3:12 PM  

#KapoBen

Blogger tz November 01, 2016 3:14 PM  

As per a comment I just posted on Wright's journal, we need a new word.

"Conservative" has been poisoned and is something like Edsel, Pinto, Hindenburg. It is now a synonym of its supplanted Cuckservative.

Winston Churchill was a drunk. Somewhere in one of his rants he said he found a new respect for Churchill. But he would have said he could not be prime-minister for the same reason he rejects trump and would let Hitler win rather than elect such an awful person. That is #NeverTrump.

The Tinkerbells and PeterPans in #NeverNever(Trump)Land. But let Captain Crook win if Peter Pan won't grow up and Tinkerbell can't defeat him.

The Cucks and Neo-cons will descend into something like the #Losertarians where they publish irrelevant or alarmist missives in publications read only by the remaining sycophants.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 01, 2016 3:20 PM  

I know some Christians who are very emotionally driven people, they are in a tizzy over the election; Hillary Rodan Robot is terrible, but #NeverTrump has drenched them with rhetoric. Last week I told them quite calmly "Either Trump or Clinton. That's the choice" and the emotional storm was about what I expected.

They'd be polled as "undecided" even now. But they aren't. They hate and fear the Clintons. They are disgusted by Trump. They don't want to vote for him. They cannot vote for her.

I expect that they'll vote Trump next week, or in early voting. They won't like it, it will make them feel bad. Because they simply can't understand why a nice man like Please Clap couldn't win a primary.

They aren't really core #NeverTrump, they are the weak minded, emotional people who #NeverTrump and the Clintonbots targeted.

"Can't we all just get along?" is what they keep mumbling. Useful idiots.

Blogger Anchorman November 01, 2016 3:22 PM  

Daily Beast:

Glenn Beck rips release of Comey letter: "One of the most irresponsible things to ever happen"

No doubt any more. He's lost it.

Blogger tz November 01, 2016 3:23 PM  

@43 - Maybe not. Glenn Beck is very prominent and his most recent descent into madness and irrelevance (I so have to tune in on 11/9 to see his reaction to the Trumpslide, assuming his brains are still in his skull - perhaps his wife Tanya should lock away the firearms and change the combination on the Liberty safe.)

With Egg McMuffin (I forget his exact name) running, #NeverTrump is creating it's own #NeverMormon meme.

Blogger Sam Lively November 01, 2016 3:25 PM  

@54

The mandatory missions kick in right when most guys sign up for the armed forces, so that's got to have a pretty big dampening effect on recruitment.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents November 01, 2016 3:27 PM  

The mods are doing a fine job of sinking the skiffs full of trolls that keep floating across the comment section. As I predicted, the closer we get to the election, the more we get Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt thrown around like mudballs.

C'mon, FUDposters, you're not getting any traction. Even if the mods let every one of your stinky baits into this pond, all you'd get back is contempt, derision, memes, and kek.

You FUD throwers should realize that you are just peeing in the wind, and it's blowing back onto you. Find something more productive to do, that's what you should do.

Fat, drunken and trolling for flames is no way to go through life.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric November 01, 2016 3:35 PM  

@60. Missions aren't mandatory. I know many Mormons who served in the military. And Trump will comfortably win Utah.

Blogger tz November 01, 2016 3:36 PM  

Another view of the Mormon Question, note that many Catholics like myself (Liberache-tarian) and Mr Wright, Milodolator (I don't have protactinium, only a supply of Americium - I never really lie but don't ask) love and cheer @m (and I need to figure out how to get the Dangerous Faggot Tour to visit Northwest College in Powell WY).

The lovely part about having the Sacrament of Reconciliation is that you can indulge in guilty pleasures, get absolution, and work out the penance and indulgences.

Mormons have the problem in that they need to remain stuck-up. The problem with DIY righteousness is that is what the Pharisees taught. Self-defense, self-reliance, self-awareness, self-examination good. Self-righteousness, evil as in the lowest pit in hell.

Blogger tz November 01, 2016 3:37 PM  

@60, where's the contradiction? Convert or I'll shoot you.

Blogger tublecane November 01, 2016 3:41 PM  

@7-What would be the point? Progressivism won.

Blogger Sam Lively November 01, 2016 3:47 PM  

@62

Sorry, not mandatory, but a lot of social pressure. I'd imagine it would put a damper on Mormon recruitment. Enlisting after spending 2 years on a mission sounds a lot less exciting and transformative than it would coming right out of high school.

Anonymous johnc November 01, 2016 3:51 PM  

I don't think we can rely on WikiLeaks to deliver any goods before the election. If they have anything they'll wait until after the election is over. In the meantime they can troll people for tons and tons of donations.

Trump is right to focus on Obamacare premium increases, the fact that voting is rigged, the fact that Alcoholic Hillary could start WWIII, etc. Fear is a useful tool right now. Focus on the apocalypse that's coming rather than the trainwreck in the past.

I'm still amazed just how many dumb people are going to vote for Hillary. We really have a long road to hoe to overcome all the stupidity in America.

Anonymous mature-Craig November 01, 2016 3:55 PM  

and one thing I learned from this election is that I have to get tougher personally, I deserted Trump twice when things got tough, good thing its not the military or else I would be shot

Blogger Teri November 01, 2016 3:56 PM  

Husband's nephew is Mormon. One son is a Marine. The other just did a two year mission in Peru.

Anonymous BGKB November 01, 2016 3:58 PM  

The mendacious media will naturally ask why Trumpsters are beating themselves and burning the 7/11's in minority neighborhoods

We have live coverage of TRUMP supporters looting the Liquor+ Weave superstore.

but I cant help but be curious about Mormon military service is it less or more or the same as the non Mormon population

I knew a Mormon medic.

Blogger Lovekraft November 01, 2016 4:01 PM  

And libertarians are flipping the Bob Marley cassette over and lighting up the bong.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 01, 2016 4:01 PM  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Beck surrenders to the Trumpening!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

NeverTrump try to pull their pants back up, succeeds only in tearing out the ass and losing their underwear!

Blogger YIH November 01, 2016 4:07 PM  

@71 Snidely Whiplash:
I still say Glenn Cuck is back on the sauce. That sounds like CYA 101.

Blogger Iron Spartan November 01, 2016 4:11 PM  

I almost feel sorry for the die hard nevertrumpers. They are stuck using the same talking points since the primaries, repeating them tirelessly as a mantra.

They are stuck in a Bush era paradigm. The world changed around them and they either haven't noticed or are afraid to notice.

Anonymous RCFlyer November 01, 2016 4:17 PM  

I'm watching the Betfair Trump/Clinton market and it's fascinating. But basically it's the same pattern I've been seeing for a while. Once in a while someone shows up and drops 10 or 20 or 50 thousand for Clinton and against Trump. Then, over a few hours, those bets get eaten up by small bettors dropping smaller amounts for Trump. Then more big fish show up to drop thousands on Clinton again.

It's Brexit betting all over again. It's either deluded rich punters certain she will win, or someone with an unlimited budget to keep the betting odds toward Clinton. But I am absolutely certain there are more individual punters voting for Trump with smaller amounts, and fewer rich punters betting on Clinton.

Once in a while though, some big fish shows up and drops thousands on Trump to win.

Blogger Linus November 01, 2016 4:17 PM  

It is not strange at all to me that Mormons are firm neverTrumpers. I am a Mormon, so I have seen the same thing writ small my whole life. Being very very proud of yourself, because you've never let alcohol sully your lips. Because you never had a sexual thought about a woman, they are Daughters of God, what are you, a pervert? It's easy for them to define themselves by the things they DON'T do, and feel a sense of virtue for it. That, plus the fact that they have bought wholesale into the "all races are God's children therefore logically borders and immigration enforcement are evil" lie. A Mormon who finds Trump distasteful can vote for the no-hope-of-winning Mormon, whose actual policies (including getting us into a war with Russia) would be far far worse for them, and thereby directly ensure a Hillary victory and still feel that particular smug self-satisfaction that is only attainable through the truly futile action. But Trump is an adulterer, and open about his sexual appetites, and that's all a Mormon needs to know.

P.S. I've never had alcohol either, because I promised I wouldn't, but I don't derive even an iota of my value from that fact. Also, nobody can be as annoyed with Mormons as another Mormon. This election cycle is killing me.

Blogger cheddarman November 01, 2016 4:21 PM  

We need to give both Glen Beck and Lindsay Graham dresses, a set of feaux pearls to clutch, a fainting couch, and be done with them

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson November 01, 2016 4:23 PM  

Evan McMullin, incompetent Mormon Church leaders and corrupt Mormon elites like Mitt Romney have done massive damage to the reputations of millions of good honest Mormons in America. It will take us years to repair our relationship with the rest of America.

Anonymous Broken Arrow November 01, 2016 4:24 PM  

The only way the NeverTrumpers or Neocons have as much influence as they did in the past is if Trump suffers a massive loss in both the EC and the popular vote. A few weeks ago it was a real possibility due to the polls but as of right now, even if he loses it looks to be very close. They are praying for a 300-350 EC victory for Hillary.

Blogger Anchorman November 01, 2016 4:24 PM  

I almost feel sorry for the die hard nevertrumpers.

Don't. I supported Cruz. He lost. I took the next best choice (admittedly, the only choice left, but Trump was my second choice).

They're rational people who deliberately chose tactics to sabotage the only credible threat to stop Hillary's ascension.

They knew what they were doing and decided their feelings and their blustery "principle" mattered more than the future of the US.

They were the ones who lectured others to hold their nose and vote McCain/Romney "to stop the awful Obama." When a far, far worse candidate surfaced, they showed their concerns in 08/12 were just for show and had shallow roots.

They should never be trusted with power or status again.

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson November 01, 2016 4:26 PM  

@Linus

I'm so sick with my own people right now. It is shocking to see how smug and prideful the Mormons who support Evan McMullina are. These people are a perfect example of how pride makes you toxic.

Blogger Natalie November 01, 2016 4:30 PM  

Slightly OT: https://twitter.com/allnighttom/status/793537083092574208

Haven't verified, but more in the Trumpenslide pile

Anonymous Broken Arrow November 01, 2016 4:31 PM  

@80 Don't feel too bad, Evangelicals have been politically stupid and even suicidal for a lot longer than Mormons. The irony here is that the Evangelicals are this election away from being in the same boat as the Mormons--a minority religious community which the majority of Americans view as goofy fringe of weird believers.

Blogger Alexander November 01, 2016 4:37 PM  

They're not principles. Not ONE of these fags - Kristol, Krauthammer, Shapiro, McMuffin, Bush, etc. etc. - is doing this because they have a set of unshakable views and this candidate doesn't pass muster.

That would be very annoying, and intolerable in light of decades of 'Muh Party Unity Vote for GOPe pull together!'

But this is beyond intolerable. This is a group of gangster, many (but not all) who are foreign to the group they have parasitically infested, who have sought to leech us of our nation for their own benefit. They need to be destroyed.

We don't need them. Not in any way. Any 'return' to the fold at this point must be viewed for what it is - a hamhanded attempt to re-infiltrate the host.

Note the dynamics: you don't see rank-and-file Cruz supporters or even Rubio supporters cheering for Hillary. Dissent within the in-group is fine and generally resolves itself in the face of the out-group opponent. That these people don't conform to that very basic dynamic tells us everything we need to know.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 01, 2016 4:39 PM  

I genuinely don't understand NEVERTRUMP motivation, other than pro-Hillary, masked as "principle."

There are two different motivations. For the leaders, it's very simple: war and immigration, or in one word, (((globalism))). Kristol refers to himself as "pro-war," and McMuffin has declared any restraint on immigration racist. These people took over political conservatism somewhere around the late 80s, and they've been using social conservatives as useful idiots because we had nowhere else to go. They don't give a damn for marriage or abortion or any of that, except to the extent that mouthing concern for those things kept them in power so they could advance their goals. They're afraid of Trump because he's not a globalist, plain and simple. It's not emotional for them; it's about holding onto power.

But there's another group, including both moderates and social conservatives, for whom it's all about an emotional aversion to Trump. For years, he's been a tabloid caricature they could ridicule and say, "At least I'm not like Donald Trump." To them, he's a Bad Guy, and that's not negotiable, because it's wrapped up in their own opinion of themselves after years of his being a mark on their moral yardstick.

Many of these people also take politics very seriously, and think politicians should be Good People -- in fact they can point to politicians they think are Good People -- and they don't want to vote for a Bad Guy. That's what the Democrats do. So if a Bad Guy has to win, they'd rather it was the Democrat, because they're supposed to be bad.

The first group (with the help of the media) has been manipulating the second group by pretending it's about morality for them too, but I think the curtain has raised enough at this point to put the lie to that.

Last week I told them quite calmly "Either Trump or Clinton. That's the choice" and the emotional storm was about what I expected.

I keep getting an image of a kid being told he's going to sit at the dinner table until he eats his peas, so he just sits there and kicks at his chair forever, saying, "But I don't wanna sit here or eat my peas!" Eventually he grows up and realizes sometimes there isn't a third choice. The time for coming up with better candidates (or better parties) and building support for them started the day Romney lost and ended the day Trump got the nomination. It can continue again after the election (personally, I'd prefer a truly multi-party system). But right now there's a simple choice: vote for one or the other -- or don't, in which case you can't claim you were trying to stop either.

Anonymous Goodnight November 01, 2016 4:44 PM  

How stupid would the NeverTrumpers have to be to try to blow up the Trump campaign in the last week? Do they really not have any concept of the reaction? Rick Wilson would have to go to Qatar and wear a disguise even there.

Blogger Anchorman November 01, 2016 4:49 PM  

@Natalie,
I checked some of the twitter feeds. Warren seems to have two and one still has a lot of Hillary stuff.

I noticed a bunch of folks purged their accounts in the last week (robbymook, matt yglesias), but not having an account, I don't know if that's common.

Blogger James Dixon November 01, 2016 5:00 PM  

> But there's another group, including both moderates and social conservatives, for whom it's all about an emotional aversion to Trump.

I'm the guy who told coworkers I'd only watch "The Apprentice" if I thought the winner would tell Trump to take his job and shove it, then walk off the stage.

I voted for Trump on Saturday. Trump isn't running to be my or their best friend. He's running to be President. I can understand that. Apparently they can't.

Anonymous Ironsides November 01, 2016 5:02 PM  

Goodnight wrote:How stupid would the NeverTrumpers have to be to try to blow up the Trump campaign in the last week? Do they really not have any concept of the reaction? Rick Wilson would have to go to Qatar and wear a disguise even there.

They're pretty damn stupid. I fully expect them to leap on the plunger and set off the dynamite at whatever moment they think will be most damaging to him, in the delusional belief that they'll continue to hold power if this becomes Mexico North.

Blogger Jill November 01, 2016 5:04 PM  

Progs and neocons both have a tendency toward moral priggishness, albeit for different causes. This election has proven what I've been saying for years, that these factions are two horns sprouting from the same beast. When MoveOn.org posts sympathetic articles on Gingrich, I just have to laugh.

Blogger Jill November 01, 2016 5:04 PM  

Progs and neocons both have a tendency toward moral priggishness, albeit for different causes. This election has proven what I've been saying for years, that these factions are two horns sprouting from the same beast. When MoveOn.org posts sympathetic articles on Gingrich, I just have to laugh.

Blogger Linus November 01, 2016 5:06 PM  

@Jeffery Johnson

I'm so sick with my own people right now. It is shocking to see how smug and prideful the Mormons who support Evan McMullina are. These people are a perfect example of how pride makes you toxic.

I'm with you, brother. The "I have my principles, no matter what their effect is" is so blind, to me. It's this, that Cail said "To them, he's a Bad Guy, and that's not negotiable, because it's wrapped up in their own opinion of themselves after years of his being a mark on their moral yardstick."

Blogger Robert Divinity November 01, 2016 5:19 PM  

They're pretty damn stupid. I fully expect them to leap on the plunger and set off the dynamite at whatever moment they think will be most damaging to him, in the delusional belief that they'll continue to hold power if this becomes Mexico North.

They are so goddamned stupid that they (a) probably have this material and (b) waited so long it no longer can help Hillary very much but it can blow back on them. The eradication of the cucks and neocons and power brokers is the biggest victory of this election so far.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 01, 2016 5:19 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:I keep getting an image of a kid being told he's going to sit at the dinner table until he eats his peas, so he just sits there and kicks at his chair forever, saying, "But I don't wanna sit here or eat my peas!" Eventually he grows up and realizes sometimes there isn't a third choice.
I love it after 3 days:
"Dad, these peas are starting to smell moldy"
"That's okay son, I'll cook you some more."

Blogger tz November 01, 2016 5:26 PM  

SanctimoniousTorum is against #NeverTrump. Maybe he has learned since the Arlen Spectre endorsement.

Blogger Sam Lively November 01, 2016 5:27 PM  

@84

Excellent summary.

Though I don't think there are many moderates in that 2nd camp. The moderates don't particularly care about the Dems being the bad guys - that's the social conservatives who spent so much ire on Bill Clinton that they feel dirty supporting Trump.

Anonymous johnc November 01, 2016 5:50 PM  

Mormons are the ones that believe you can have ten wives, and now they're lecturing Trump about adultery and treating women with respect?

This election is like bizarro world.

Blogger mushroom November 01, 2016 6:20 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:The 10 Year Treasury yield has added almost 0.6% of yield in just 4 months. That might not sound like much, but it's about a 40% increase in yield over this summer's all time low yield (all time high prices.) It represents an astronomical decline in the capital value of trillions of dollars worth of outstanding debt.

Trump may not be the only landslide in coming months. Maybe the threat to "drain the swamp" is signaling to participants that it's no longer safe to play chicken with Mr. Market. When the game is rigged and the casino is set to change ownership, the cheaters may be set to cash out their chips and run to the Clinton Confab in Qatar.


My guess is that there was hope Clinton would stir up a conflict with Russia and keep the globalist money-shuffle going. We may get an (acknowledged) depression with Trump who will be tagged by the media with all the blame for our financial mess.

Blogger Bard November 01, 2016 6:38 PM  

There are quite a few Mormons in the military. A lot more than you would think.

Blogger Harold November 01, 2016 6:43 PM  

also, since I never served in the military its kind of none of my business, but I cant help but be curious about Mormon military service is it less or more or the same as the non Mormon population

More, especially in the officer ranks. I don't think they stick around much for 20. Military experience will help them be hired at a Mormon run firm, so they have options. The service academies make allowances for a 1 year mission. The overseas experience they gain from that is useful. If the academies make allowances, I'm certain ROTC also does.

Blogger praetorian November 01, 2016 7:00 PM  

Bard wrote:There are quite a few Mormons in the military. A lot more than you would think.

I'm taking it easy on the mormons until we see the actual numbers. I don't think much of their theology, but they are good folk and I think there's a good chance we are being gaslit on the Mormon Question as part of a wider D&C op. Kristol is the one getting all wet for the gay spook making noises in Deseret, and we all know where his loyalties lie, and the tactics those (((folks))) use.

If Utah doesn't deliver, however: never forgive, never forget.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 01, 2016 7:17 PM  

@95, I was thinking more of moderate Republicans, basically the equivalent of SadPuppies in this scenario. We have lots of them here in the Midwest, the Land of Nice. You know, the kind who will say they know our side is right in what we say, and they know the other side wants to feast on our bones if it can, but gosh darn it, we have nasty people with potty mouths on our side, so they're just going to have to stay in the middle and chide us until we learn to be nicer.

How stupid would the NeverTrumpers have to be to try to blow up the Trump campaign in the last week?

The ones at the top really have nothing to lose. If Trump wins, Kristol loses his power base. Sure, he'll still be able to get work writing and speaking for cuck/neocon groups -- they aren't just going to disappear overnight. He may even still have connections with some legislators. But he won't have influence in a triumphant Trumpist GOP that he already betrayed, and the SJW-converged Democrats won't have him. McMuffin has it even worse, being Mormon instead of Jewish. Leftists only like gay Mormons, and only as pets.

So they might as well roll the dice and hope they can get Hillary elected, hope further that Trump and his supporters will lose interest or be shamed off the stage by a big loss, and that they can get control of the GOP back and go back to working with the Dems on a brave, new globalist future, quibbling only over whom to bomb when and for what.

Blogger jandolin November 01, 2016 7:19 PM  

"FNC was watered-down phony conservatism designed to cash in on an underserved market."

The (((neocons))) abandoned the Democratic party because the left began backing the Palestinians and opposing Zionist israel. The (((neocons))) hijacked the conservative press and created Fox news channel, Salem radio network. Emmis radio network etc to persuade white republican voters to support Israel. It was one way exchange in which white republicans supported the neocon foreign policy but the neocons supported policies that were deleterious to white republicans, mass immigration, support for abortion and homosexual marriage.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 01, 2016 7:23 PM  

@100, true. The same people told us a revolt was brewing among the delegates at the convention, and we know how that went.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 01, 2016 7:25 PM  

Zerohedge is reporting that FBI FOIA'd Marc Rich pardon documents without a litigation deadline. 0bama is fixing to fry Hillary.

Anonymous Eric the Red November 01, 2016 7:44 PM  

@84 Cail Corbashov
That 2nd group wants to feel good about their own moral superiority in the short term, regardless of the evil effects in the long term.

They're equivalent to the Saudi police who kept girls from running out of a burning school because they didn't have on their face-coverings. Such short-sighted moral preening, while causing death and destruction all around.

Blogger Jack Morrow November 01, 2016 8:26 PM  

A case in point--submitted for your appoval, the latest from the bloggers who inspired me to mail Mr. Day, inspiring a post at this blog a month or so ago:

http://www.purposedrivel.com/2016/10/ichabod.html

http://www.purposedrivel.com/2016/10/ive-met-donald-trump-and-im-tired-of.html

http://www.purposedrivel.com/2016/10/third-party-cant-win.html

OpenID boardroomal November 01, 2016 8:32 PM  

When we win, we have to rout these traitorous fucks, its gonna get worse before it gets better and we have to stamp out this shit everywhere it flares up...we got quite a bit more work ahead of us dealing with the saracen, mexican & dindufication of america..as well as the media, the legal and the education system being completely franklin schooled...these fucks have really put us in a bad way

Blogger Rusty Fife November 01, 2016 8:38 PM  

VD,

If you are using the 14words as a counter-hermetic enchament, this website is pure Kektastic gold:

http://www.davidlane1488.com/

Triples and dubs, numerology, and pyramids; it is a thing to behold.

Blogger rcocean November 01, 2016 8:46 PM  

The mask has dropped and no conservative with an IQ over 100 will take Cheetos McCuck, Kristol, NR, Fox News, Hot Air, or any of the other Cucks seriously again.

Sadly, significant numbers of the Right are terminally stupid and will forget their betrayal within a week of the election.

Anonymous AR Sniper November 01, 2016 8:53 PM  

The Rick Wilson that blocked me after trolling him into defending on his twitter feed a pic of him holding a black baby?

So easy. Total pussy.

Blogger Billy Ray November 01, 2016 8:55 PM  

just remember all up alt-right/new lefties, once trump is in office you will have to STFU. no complaints from you when he turns out to be the same lying cheating scumbag politician like the rest of them.cause saint trump the second coming has no flaws, right?

I give it less than a week before all you alt right actually lefties start whining about something.

OpenID boardroomal November 01, 2016 8:59 PM  

P.S Only a handful of days, get pumped, time to follow our leader and finish taking arrakis for good..

Trump addresses the faithful & gathers the Alt-Right tribes before the final assault on "Emporer Soros - Globalist" "House Cuckservative" "The Media Guild" and the many marxist houses of SJW ......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv87NJ2xX0k

Blogger Billy Ray November 01, 2016 9:00 PM  

to persuade white republican voters to support Israel - cause it's all the fault of the JOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSS, ain;t that right Adolph?

OpenID boardroomal November 01, 2016 9:11 PM  

@111 You don't get it....Trump is merely "Herald"...he is "John the Baptist"....the movement is bigger than him.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 01, 2016 9:15 PM  

What so enrages cucks and SJW with the 14 words?

Blogger Lazarus November 01, 2016 9:26 PM  

Billy Ray wrote:I give it less than a week before all you alt right actually lefties start whining about something.

What's eatin' ya, Billy Ray?

Trump grab your pussy?

Blogger jandolin November 01, 2016 9:44 PM  

Jewish supremacists resort to the tired trick of calling truth tellers nazis.

Blogger GracieLou November 01, 2016 10:36 PM  

I have a kitty and I say truly, when the kitty purrs, the heart and mind follow. Knowing this does not make a man a cad, it makes him smart.

Saying, "I in no way condone that horrible, dastardly thing he said.." makes a man sound like a liar and worse, it makes him sound like a pussy.

Anonymous Avalanche November 01, 2016 10:46 PM  

@22 "My version is to vote non-binary first, and against the incumbent in all cases."

Look, when Trump gets in, he will need all the 'supporting' votes he can get from the Congress. The R's running for or still in Congress will get the surprising lesson of their lives -- esp. when, AFTER Trump is inaugurated, the Alt Right -- and (I hope) the regular folks on the right -- KEEP UP THE PRESSURE!

We need to keep reminding the returned "R's," and esp. any Never Trumpers left there, that WE ARE watching. WE WANT Trump to succeed and they had damned well better get on board, no matter how much it hurts their pride. If they want to have ANY hope at all of retaining their "snout in the govt trough" positions, they'd better do what WE WANT them to do! (We needn't mention that they're ALLLLLL gonna be thrown out just as soon as they're up for replacement!)

But -- imagine the God Emperor (now President!) having to try to get anything done with a Demoncrat Congress!! Let's not make anything harder than it will already be! This is NOT over on the Nov 9th!)

Blogger Rusty Fife November 01, 2016 11:58 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:What so enrages cucks and SJW with the 14 words?

The link in @108 makes the ckaim that the 14words were "magically" designed to resonate using numerology.

I'm not sure if I'm more entertained by that claim alone; or by the fact that making the claim will give all the NWO mystery religion types fits.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 02, 2016 12:24 AM  

Lazarus wrote:What's eatin' ya, Billy Ray?

Trump grab your pussy?


No. What bothers Billy Ray is that Trump didn't grab him by the pussy.

Your lack of faith in the God Emperor Trump has been noted. The Daemonic Reavers a busy at present, but will make time for you shortly.

Sleep well.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 02, 2016 12:28 AM  

Rusty Fife wrote:The link in @108 makes the ckaim that the 14words were "magically" designed to resonate using numerology.
We know that at one time, Adolph was a, well, not a follower, but an admirer of Mme Blavatsky, and certainly studied her techniques of persuasion, both secular and magical.

It's quite possible that the 14 words were vetted through a numerological perspective..

Blogger Rusty Fife November 02, 2016 12:35 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Mme Blavatsky

Great. Another name to add to the rabbit hole of Hermetic research I've fallen into.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY November 02, 2016 12:55 AM  

50. Josh (the gayest thing here)
I don't think so , you Vandy faggot. Think about it, you hapless homo.

Blogger G E November 02, 2016 1:42 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjfuTn6d1ZU

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 02, 2016 1:45 AM  

http://infoglactic.com/info/Helena_Blavatsky
was a Russian mystic and the founder of the Theosophical Society. She claimed to have been initiated to the ancient wisdom in Tibet shortly after the Franco-Prussian war, during a period when she was actually drinking and screwing her way through European middle aristocracy.
She was one of the first European converts to (her own form of) Buddhism, and the prototypical new-ager.

Blogger bob kek mando ( I are Spartacus ... and you can too! C'mon, give it a try, these crosses are way more comfy than they look ) November 02, 2016 2:08 AM  

11. Orville November 01, 2016 1:52 PM
Which conveys the loudest fuck you?


against every incumbent.

but never for a Democrat.



15. Fenris Wulf November 01, 2016 2:01 PM
I remember when the Fox News Channel was created 20 years ago and how mind-blowing it was to see unadulterated conservative views on TV.



Fox has always been Faux Conservative, don't kid yourself.

sometimes they're better, sometimes worse, but rarely do they ever directly attack the already established media narrative. they typically simply REACT to what the ClintonNewsNetwork and others are already talking about.

Blogger bob kek mando ( I are Spartacus ... and you can too! C'mon, give it a try, these crosses are way more comfy than they look ) November 02, 2016 2:14 AM  

123. Rusty Fife November 02, 2016 12:35 AM
Great. Another name to add to the rabbit hole of Hermetic research I've fallen into.



the modern day fascist Greek party, Golden Dawn, takes it's name from the old Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn

that thread, attaching themselves via name to the old paganistic religions, was how i inferred that the modern Golden Dawn really was overtly fascist, rather than simply being smeared by the media as Vox was assuming at the time.



the Jane Doe trying to sue Trump has already been proven to be lying on the original suit that she filed in California, strangely, Snopes is pointing that out:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

no normal lawyer will touch the suit, her current representative is professionally a patent lawyer. obviously zero evidence beyond her hearsay.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric November 02, 2016 7:21 AM  

bob kek mando ( I are Spartacus ... and you can too! C'mon, give it a try, these crosses are way more comfy than they look ) wrote:sometimes they're better, sometimes worse, but rarely do they ever directly attack the already established media narrative. they typically simply REACT to what the ClintonNewsNetwork and others are already talking about.
Give them some credit. Fox almost single-handedly destroyed ACORN a few years ago when the first wave of Project Veritas videos were coming out. Nobody else was talking about that until Fox essentially shamed them into doing so by running the story non-stop for days.

By the way, I notice that the Infogalactic page on ACORN needs some editing; it shows the bias of it's Wikipedia source material still...

Blogger bosscauser November 02, 2016 10:20 AM  

Mark Levin on board but still insistes we have to fight Hoover Trade policies.
College grad, Jesus!

Let's go #Trump and hurry!

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 02, 2016 11:36 AM  

Smiley, regarding Mdme. Blavatsky. Theosophy, in my opinion, was the wellspring of the Transcendental Generation's abruption into the occult. We saw at the same time: Charles Taze Russell (Jehovah's Witness), Joseph Smith (Mormonism), Ellen G. White (7th Day Adventism), Darby and Scofield (Dispensationalism/Rapture) and others. I'd call it generally Cabalism for Christendom. Judaism dumped a load of heresy and Theosophy was its most radical dose.

"New Age" is Talmudist Occultism.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 02, 2016 12:00 PM  

@131

Should include Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science) in that list.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 02, 2016 1:46 PM  

Yeah, I knew I was forgetting a couple. Shakers predated this but got weirder during this era as well.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 02, 2016 2:37 PM  

Arthur Isaac wrote:"New Age" is Talmudist Occultism.
No arguments. You can trace the line directly from Masonry and Deism through all of these idiot metaphysical "philosophies".
Somehow, they all end in Gnosticism and self-worship

And don't forget Mormonism.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 02, 2016 3:39 PM  


Somehow, they all end in Gnosticism and self-worship


Or some form of Universalism. Followed in time by paganism / spiritualism. Remember, table tapping seances' were big in the 1920's.

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