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Friday, November 04, 2016

This is NOT a clever strategem

I have to admit, I find the cowering fear of opening themselves up to potential criticism on the part of a number of conservatives and otherwise sensible people to be downright slap-worthy. I've been getting a number of emails, and seeing a number of comments like this floating around.
Are we being chumped? I'm worried this whole weiner laptop thing is a trap. Supposed to be so telling about the wickedness of clintondom, just you wait til the news hits. But what if nothing really new comes out.....just the same shit the FBI already had. We trumpsters spend the last few days of the campaign holding our breath waiting for the coup de grace rather than fighting in the trenches. FBI eventually tells us no new news, Hillary gets a Monday bump, and we go down. The innuendo seems too good to be true....maybe it is. 
This is ridiculous. This is absurd. What "fighting in the trenches" is not taking place anywhere just because everyone is waiting to see if the NYPD or the FBI are going to do anything? I mean, sure, I'm anticipating something to happen in the next 24 hours and putting up the occasional post, but in the meantime, I also finished editing John C. Wright's latest book and got a number of other things done.

A trap? A TRAP? Are you serious? Not only does belief, or disbelief, in the various rumors not preclude anyone from doing anything, it should be totally freaking obvious that pretending to be a sexually abusive pedophile occultist is not a winning strategy for any political candidate, let alone a presidential one. I mean, the idiocy of that strategy is already a well-known meme!



Seems likely, doesn't it? Come on. Lose the cuck mindset. It's a recipe for failure of every kind. If you're living in fear that doing or saying something might give someone the opportunity to say that you were wrong, you're already a chump.

Now THIS is a campaign strategy. Rather good timing, wouldn't you say?

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199 Comments:

Anonymous GreyS November 04, 2016 3:38 PM  

People give her too much credit. Nobody hurts themselves this bad a week before voting day. If anyone wants a conspiracy, try one where this is simply a prelude to suspending the election.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 04, 2016 3:40 PM  

Amen. Been countering these nervous "conservatives" who are afraid to paint globalist dreams as evil.

Come on, folks. Know yourself. Know the enemy.

Then fight.

Blogger pyrrhus November 04, 2016 3:43 PM  

Hillary and Huma were on the Lolita Express to Epstein Island one or more times. There is no reason in the world to go there except to have underaged sex. Case closed.

Blogger MamaHen November 04, 2016 3:43 PM  

If Comy actually called in every agent in the area today then is it taking this long to go make arrest? Or, has Obama let loose the hounds of homeland security to actually coral the FBI?
Nothing will surprise me where our government is concerned these days. The USA's most dangerous enemy ever is its own political rulers. The founding fathers were oh so right

Blogger pyrrhus November 04, 2016 3:47 PM  

Hillary and Huma closely connect to child stealer Laura Silsby and her convicted sex trafficker husband.https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5aupnh/breaking_i_believe_i_have_connected_a_convicted/

Blogger ChickenChicken Sweep November 04, 2016 3:47 PM  

A simple "Cui bono?" could assuage these fears. Real or fake, it's already been ruinous for Clinton, and if the FBI rolls over again, it'll have to be disbanded. Some would argue for some nefarious deep state long con, but it would be one of the most addlepated and short-sighted "evil plans" of all time.

Blogger pyrrhus November 04, 2016 3:47 PM  

Not 'husband', attorney!

Blogger Ingot9455 November 04, 2016 3:48 PM  

Please, let them go to the Supreme Court for a warrant to put Hillary (who is under Secret Service protection) under arrest.

The idea of Clarence Thomas's signature on that warrant... but heck, I'd even take Alito.

Anonymous Credo_In_Unum_Deum November 04, 2016 3:48 PM  

Hillary's campaign is run morons...

Why didn't anyone on the campaign suggest, months ago, "Hey! This fellow John Podesta is a Satanic Pedophile Cultist... GET. RID. OF. HIM!!!!! Have someone "commit suicide" who will HELP our campaign for once!!!"

Blogger pyrrhus November 04, 2016 3:50 PM  

O/T https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/fbi-just-nabbed-russian-hacker-behind-hillary-email-scandal/

Blogger Student in Blue November 04, 2016 3:50 PM  

Were there this many Nervous Nellies before 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012 election?

My best guess is the only reason people are getting so nervous is because they're far more emotionally invested than in previous years, and the pressure is starting to mount as the deadline looms.

Anonymous Macladdy November 04, 2016 3:51 PM  

Or maybe it's all a farce, maybe the rumors are unsubstantiated for the most obvious reason and maybe The only ones that care about the rumors are the loons in the alt right.

Could be.

Anonymous Faceless November 04, 2016 3:55 PM  

If the big Drudge headline is to be believed, she's lost Macomb County, Michigan. That's surely a big blow, since there are only a handful of Democrat strongholds left in the state, and that list usually read Wayne, Macomb, 1/2 Oakland, 1/2 Washtenaw, Ingham (now denuded), Genesee (home of Flint, now pretty dead), Saginaw. People I talk to in passing about this who were Hillary people have just gotten angry and don't want to talk about voting; I think they are going to stay home, as we do not have early voting here except for the elderly.

Anonymous Jake Saga November 04, 2016 3:57 PM  

VD: Great point.
We reactionaries can't lose heart over the informational war.
The information that is already verified should already have taken the Clinton machine down. It is being propped up by the evil mainstream media and establishment.

My main fear is still election machine rigging.
I believe that Trump will not concede if he has good statistical and observational evidence of election fraud.
BTW, I only recently discovered your site, through heartiste and anon conserv, etc.
I used to be a huge Sci Fi fan as a teenager. I plan to get one of your books.

Regarding the whole debate on the extent of conspiracies: I was personally the victim of a conspiracy as a grad student. A neocon professor made my fellowship disappear. I fought using advice from a smart lawyer, and it magically reappeared. This was all done behind the scenes, secretly, and all just to crush a lowly grad student. Imagine what is now being considered for the fates of the FBI agents and NYPD officers who are daring to fight. I believe they are being threatened as we speak, along with their families.

Finally, I myself am considering emigrating. Any advice? I have a 10 year old son and wife, and this country (USA) is more and more dark and perverse to me. I am old enough to remember a slightly better time. People seem more and more like automatons. No originality, no freedom of thought. Weird.

You and I are exactly the same age. I've been through many forms of hell, but have clawed my way back to mental functionality and resilience. Someday I may write about this.
Anyway, your blog is giving my inspiring, just from your strength of character. Bless you.
Sincerely -

Anonymous Dave November 04, 2016 4:03 PM  

blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah...finished editing John C. Wright's latest book...blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah

Blogger Robert Divinity November 04, 2016 4:03 PM  

Here, here, Vox. One of the highlights of this election has been witnessing the degree of Stockholm Syndrome the non-Left suffers.

I also finished editing John C. Wright's latest book and got a number of other things done.

That made me laugh. A lot. If someone has put their life, whatever they do, on hold waiting for an NYPD investigator to give a press conference they need help.

Blogger cheddarman November 04, 2016 4:06 PM  

Great post Vox, that is about as close to a bitch slap as you can get!

Shared it with my elderly parents, they thought it was hillarious.

Anonymous Who Dat November 04, 2016 4:07 PM  

Drudge has scrubbed their site of any mention of the occult/ pedo reports.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 04, 2016 4:08 PM  

I agree wholeheartedly. Clinton does NOT need the rumors that she is connected, even indirectly, to pedophiles piled on top of the mishandling of classified info problems she has with her emails. The fact they were found on scumbag Wiener's laptop made the whole thing worse for her, because it associates her with him. There is NOTHING about that association that can help her, which is why Trump cut the "pervert Anthony Weiner" ad.

The theater lover in me enjoys the idea of a Nov. 5th bombshell. I shall hope it happens. If not, I think with the polls now showing a tie in Michigan is it obvious that Trump has the momentum. He can win this thing.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook November 04, 2016 4:15 PM  

This is the same woman who conducted SEANCES in the White House to contact Eleanor Roosevelt and Gandhi I think its safe to say that she's out of her fucking mind.

Blogger Weouro November 04, 2016 4:16 PM  

Could be a troll trying reverse psychology. No Trump supporter refers to himself as a Trumpster. Is that Mark Shea?

Anonymous One Deplorable DT November 04, 2016 4:17 PM  

@18 - is the email authentic or not? If it's authentic then everything else falls into place. If not, then we look foolish for pushing this "discovery." But in our defense everything to date has been authentic.

I would note that nobody has come out and said this is ridiculous because it never happened. Some have come out and said "it's just performance art", but no is yet claiming a forged email.

Anonymous BGKB November 04, 2016 4:19 PM  

There is no reason in the world to go there except to have underaged sex.

For some reason I thought of the email response to Ambassador Stevens request for security being replied to with a comment about Chelsea's curtain & drapes. Do you think they match?

Blogger Deadmau5 Patton November 04, 2016 4:20 PM  

might have made sense months ago, but not in the final leg of the race.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 04, 2016 4:21 PM  

...but no is yet claiming a forged email.

Wikileaks themselves have posted the email and commentary about it on both their Facebook and Twitter accounts. They have never released anything to date that has been shown to be fake. Moreover, they posted what they described as "cryptographic proof" today for the Podesta emails.

Anonymous High Tech Redneck November 04, 2016 4:23 PM  

Paraphrasing LBJ, I don't care if it's true, I just want to hear them deny it.

Blogger Ezekiel November 04, 2016 4:24 PM  

I guess there are a few Republicans who may be so certain of victory come Election Day that they just go to sleep until Wednesday, but how much good were they to us anyway?

The ONE concern I might possibly have is that what we're learning now is simply so *weird* that it'll cause the normies' little brains to shut down and they'll shuffle off to vote for Hillary because they simply refuse to believe that she and her people are involved in outright witchcraft. ("Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?")

I find that unlikely. Anyone who gets mentally overloaded by the shear level of evil being revealed is more likely to not vote at all, not vote for Hillary. This is going to hurt her even in a worst-case-scenario where it is nothing more than a gigantic hoax.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett November 04, 2016 4:30 PM  

@11. Of course.

I'm not one of these Nellie's, but I've never so much as wasted a yawn over another election. I've just been sitting here sharpening my saber and polishing my armor for the day to come.

And then some asshat New York buinessman cum reality TV star starts talking about the only things that matter.

So now I'm invested like it's halftime at the Championship game and Bama went to the locker room down by 10.

I know they'll bring their A game second half and make somebody eat a pigskin, but until it happens, relaxing ain't in the equation.

On the other hand, I've not been this productive in the shop in a long time. Even making a banjo and cajon for myself on top of my orders.

If we can't make America great again, I can at least make luthiery great again!

Anonymous Blume November 04, 2016 4:30 PM  

@15

I was hyped to see that too Dave.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT November 04, 2016 4:31 PM  

Vox - you have to understand that there are many people who cannot accept these claims because they are so "fantastic." So completely removed from anything they have ever experienced. I have a cousin who wouldn't believe that Podesta attended an occult ritual if I bought the occultist's book off Amazon, opened it up on my cousin's kitchen table, and shoved my cousin's face right smack into the middle of it.

To be completely honest, I initially didn't buy the connection last night while browsing one of the chans. But Cernovich was running with it...Wikileaks had the email...I could see the woman's history...and I know there is true evil in the world.

American Christians have had the most sheltered existence of any believers since Christ walked the Earth. Most have no exposure to any of this. You say you came to Christ having observed evil in the world. Most came to Christ during a salvation call at an air conditioned mega church with free coffee and cookies after.

Why do fighters beat their fists, arms, and shins? To get used to the pain for a real fight. Most American Christians are coddled children. A slap would knock them down.

And lest it appear that I am bragging: I know this because this is very much my background. I'm not as strong as I should be. I recognize now that I never "grew up" as a Christian. I've lived like a man in peace time when we are in fact behind enemy lines in the middle of a world war.

But every once in a while I get reminders, moments of clarity, when I remember that there is a very real spiritual war. That God made very real and painful sacrifices for our sake. And that at the moment we are not (fully) under His protection, but exist in a world under the control of pure evil.

Most American Christians cannot even begin to wrap their minds around that.

I'm not suggesting you go easy on them. Sometimes tough love is best love. But don't be surprised.

Anonymous Beau November 04, 2016 4:32 PM  

Let the faint-hearted flee, let the resolute pursue.

Blogger Escoffier November 04, 2016 4:34 PM  

I would be hard pressed to tell the number of times a (ahem) rock ribbed cuckservative said to me some formulation of 'buh-buh-buh you can't tell the truth about Black dysfunction and crime they'll call you a racist!'

Me: who will call me a racist?

Cuck: our enemies who hate us and wish to feast on our internal organs!

Me: and are we caring about this now?

Cuck: but without the love of my enemy to keep me warm at night what else would I have?

Blogger Timmy3 November 04, 2016 4:35 PM  

They are afraid they'll lose the argument. That's why they won't even try. They are cowards. They couldn't nail Bill Clinton on sexual harassment and rape, two issues dear to Democrats. Hypocrisy doesn't work on Democrats. They have no shame. So they rather let this newest scandal to waste away in the wind and Hillary will just skate by. There's only 4 days remaining. Just use it for all its worth.

Anonymous SaltHarvest November 04, 2016 4:39 PM  

If there is trap it's more along the lines of "focus on these pieces (people) over here, and definitely NOT these other pieces (less obvious but more important people) over there." The activities (child/human mutilation) may be right, but the particular knowledgeable 'players' may not be. Some of us seem to be hearing a nearby bus.

Falling into one of the disinfo scenarios hurts credibility a la "I'm not saying it was aliens... but.. ALIENS."

Blogger tublecane November 04, 2016 4:39 PM  

I have never understood the Respectable Right and squishy conservatives' fear of being wrong. "Wrong" defined roughly as wrong outside the mainstream (herd mind) parameters of socially acceptable wrongness. For instance, you are allowed to be off on the body count at Auschwitz by 3 million, as the Auschwitz museum itself admitted to being, but you aren't allowed to believe that the final solution wasn't mass execution. That's crazy conspiracy theory territory. Which may not be the best example, if you believe in the standard holocaust story, but it's what came to my mind.

Obviously the left has no such fear, and they run pretty much everything. If we're going to run things again we're gonna have to create our own world of make-believe, just like they did, only hopefully ours will be more realistic and beautiful, good, and true. There will inevitably be falsehood in there. That's unavoidable. Don't be so damn embarrassed about it.

Anonymous Soylent_Green November 04, 2016 4:42 PM  

@14 Jake,
I work a lot between several countries and I would say consider New Zealand. Generally nice people and many options job wise if your career choice is in demand (like Tech, engineering or medical sciences). Gun laws aren't terrible either (like Australia). Switzerland (my wife is swiss btw) is another. Love the country in general, but they are quite selective now and its very expensive. A starter home is close to a million dollars. Frankly, I would consider staying in the U.S., but moving to a free state like Alaska, Wyoming or northern Nevada. Best of luck to you & yours.

Anonymous Steve November 04, 2016 4:45 PM  

I also finished editing John C. Wright's latest book

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

Blogger Lovekraft November 04, 2016 4:46 PM  

The acid-eating, free love chickens of the 1960s are coming home to roost.

Going to be a lot of feathers, squacking and clawing before it's all over so hang on and push through.

Blogger Lovekraft November 04, 2016 4:49 PM  

The acid-eating, free love chickens of the 1960s are coming home to roost.

Going to be a lot of feathers, squacking and clawing before it's all over so hang on and push through.

Blogger Bill November 04, 2016 4:51 PM  

I'm going with; The concern trolls are plants from the other side trying to get us to not push this story.

Blogger Bill November 04, 2016 4:52 PM  

Oh, and obviously, it goes without saying that the Current Occupant never, ever, under any circumstances, ever had anything to do with any of this weird shit.

Blogger Ransom Smith November 04, 2016 4:55 PM  

I'm going with; The concern trolls are plants from the other side trying to get us to not push this story.

I agree. Been getting some weird stuff on twitter. People who act like theyre Alt-Right and yet keep concern trolling over such things. It's weird

Blogger pyrrhus November 04, 2016 4:55 PM  

This is the same woman who conducted SEANCES in the White House to contact Eleanor Roosevelt and Gandhi I think its safe to say that she's out of her fucking mind.

Yep, hope Trump remembers that when the time comes.

Blogger Thucydides November 04, 2016 4:55 PM  

I'm still trying to wrap my head around these claims, and look forward to seeing the proof being presented.

Of course I'm also cynical enough to remember how other claims and even evidence has been shrugged off, and these people seem to have been able to skate over everything to the point of even claiming to have been "exonerated" of previous charges and allegations.

So extraordinary claims will need to be backed by extraordinary evidence and even better extraordinary action (a phalanx of NYPD officers descending on the Clinton Foundation offices and arresting everyone they can get their hands on would be a good start).

One can only hope, and pray....

Blogger VFM #7634 November 04, 2016 4:56 PM  

VD:

I've noticed the cuck mindset among some people I know. They sometimes forget that God is sovereign, and instead assume that everything that is happening -- including the Trump campaign -- is doing so under the auspices of the satanic bankster elites.

Sundance at theconservativetreehouse has done a good job IMO of demonstrating that Trump is in fact a free agent. But cucks are so used to being abused that they really cannot fathom it not happening.

It's despair, in a way.

Blogger RobertDWood November 04, 2016 4:57 PM  

Indeed.

Blogger RobertDWood November 04, 2016 4:57 PM  

Indeed.

Blogger Lazarus November 04, 2016 4:58 PM  

OT but an indication that maybe the winds ACTUALLY ARE favorable now:

CHARLOTTESVILLE — A federal court jury decided Friday that a Rolling Stone journalist defamed a former University of Virginia associate dean in a 2014 magazine article about sexual assault on campus that included a debunked account of a fraternity gang rape.

That was the BS that fuelled the "rape culture" memes.

Anonymous Macladdy November 04, 2016 5:03 PM  

"I'm still trying to wrap my head around these claims, and look forward to seeing the proof being presented."

There will be none presented to support these bizarre claims. There are simply election type fantasies, though of the more outrageous and desperate sort.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook November 04, 2016 5:03 PM  

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Anonymous spawn November 04, 2016 5:07 PM  

The Trump campaign ad against clinton corruption is awesome. NO WAY would any of the cuck GOPe like Bush or Rubio have had the stones to run an ad like this.

Anonymous Luke November 04, 2016 5:08 PM  

Do not emigrate to New Zealand. Yes, it is a gorgeous country populated with Anglo whites. But, it is too dependent upon critical imports (oil, metals, you name it), and most of all is far too close to China. The PRC's navy is waxing as ours is waning, and that is a country with a history of ethnic cleansing that would make the Serbs blanch. NFW moving there (visiting, sure).

My advice: move to somewhere around Kalispell, MT as Charles Baldwin (former Presidential candidate for the Constitution Party) did, relocating most of his extended family and much of his church (he is an ordained Baptist minister) from Florida there.

Blogger mgh November 04, 2016 5:10 PM  

It isn't a trap or trick from the Clintons. It isn't a troll job from someone in a basement saying "watch this"; there is too much odd detail for that. It is either true, or a mild form of mass hysteria that has got us all jumping to conclusions.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2016 5:13 PM  

I'm going with; The concern trolls are plants from the other side trying to get us to not push this story.

Yep. Some "conservatives" have simply gone over fully to Hillary, so this is attempt #3591 to discourage Trump supporters. But there is a lot of nervous fear of being disappointed on our side, like Vox is seeing.

I figure it this way: the media's doing its best to squelch the whole thing, so it's not like the general population is expecting a big reveal. Trump isn't running around calling Hillary a pedo. Everyone's keeping his powder dry, waiting for A) the cops to decide what to do, and B) what will Wikileaks do/have. If Monday rolls around and neither of them has come through, we already have Hillary's closest advisors attending satanic ceremonies involving pouring blood over fake children, for cripes sake. If that can't keep her from winning by itself....

If the facts are even a fraction of what we've been led to believe, then there are currently fevered negotiations going on between the FBI, NYPD, Hillary's people, Obama's people, Trump's people, maybe some big Hollywood agents, the British embassy, maybe some other embassies, church officials, and more, as a whole lot of people try to bargain their way out of it. On top of that, add bomb threats in NYC, perhaps to try to get them to back off someone. All we can do is wait and see.

Anonymous SaltyDonnie November 04, 2016 5:14 PM  

It's more "put up or shut up". I can understand "official channels" playing things close to the vest while they build a case. But if this stuff is as "horrible" as alleged, and if I was privy to it, I sure as hell wouldn't let a presidential election come to pass without going public with it.

I fully believe the compromising of National Security occurred, hell, that' a gimmie. But let's say Spill really is a kiddie diddler - are "you" going to sit on that past the election? Wrong answer. My career wouldn't be worth my soul.

So if that's legit, drop that bomb. I WANT to believe, and I'm not talking rhetoric used to sway public opinion in the finals days out of decision day, I'm talking facts to put asses in cells prior, during and after.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT November 04, 2016 5:15 PM  

@49 - There will be none presented to support these bizarre claims. There are simply election type fantasies, though of the more outrageous and desperate sort.

Have you looked at the email source provided by Wikileaks? I have. Did you follow through to information about the participant Marina Abramovic? I have.

Either the email is authentic or a fake. I will point out that it could be a fake without Wikileaks knowing.

If it's a fake, then joke's on us.

If it's real, then it follows that Podesta is into occult rituals. Or at the very least, he tried one once.

Now either occult rituals are real in the sense that they tap into an evil not of this world. Or they are fantasy play by raving lunatics.

But if the email is real, then I don't want an occultist OR a raving lunatic any where near the woman who has access to nuclear codes.

And that remains true even if all the other rumors surrounding this are false and Hillary is innocent as a dove of the charges of ritual child abuse.

So do you have evidence the mail is a fraud or not?

Anonymous One Deplorable DT November 04, 2016 5:18 PM  

@56 - But if the email is real, then I don't want an occultist OR a raving lunatic any where near the woman who has access to nuclear codes.

Actually what I should have written is this: I don't want a woman who would associate with occultists or raving lunatics any where near the nuclear codes.

IMHO this is an indictment of Hillary as a candidate even if she had no knowledge of it.

Anonymous SaltyDonnie November 04, 2016 5:20 PM  

That Podesta shit on its face is nuts. She isn't justa performance artist who he accidentially stumbled upon, but someoen that knows him personally and invited him to dinner. Her little perofrmance art stunts are rituals with ties to seriously wicked shit. That peaks my interest and makes me willing to see the evidence. I think there is something there, but I doubt its gonna drop before election day. For one, not enough would believe it so close to decision day, and two, if its real, it ain't going away and would need time to sink into the public consciousness. Useful as rhetoric for the time being, though.

Blogger OGRE November 04, 2016 5:23 PM  

The claim that this is all some brilliant xanatos gambit is absurd on its face.

At this point, ANY potential scandal involving HRC is too risky for her campaign, whether its true or not. I think what really seals the deal for her losing the election is 'scandal fatigue.' More specifically 'Clinton fatigue.' Many voters are simply tired of hearing about Clinton scandals and would just as soon she go away for good. This by itself could easily cost her a swing state or three.

Anonymous SaltyDonnie November 04, 2016 5:25 PM  

@56 - But if the email is real, then I don't want an occultist OR a raving lunatic any where near the woman who has access to nuclear codes.
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And it isn't a question of whether you or I believe in the occult - it's that THEY do. And they act in their lives influenced by it. That's scary enough.

Anonymous SaltHarvest November 04, 2016 5:37 PM  

One Deplorable DT wrote:@56 - But if the email is real, then I don't want an occultist OR a raving lunatic any where near the woman who has access to nuclear codes.

Actually what I should have written is this: I don't want a woman who would associate with occultists or raving lunatics any where near the nuclear codes.

IMHO this is an indictment of Hillary as a candidate even if she had no knowledge of it.


That isn't an option. Evil (of the non-human sort) wants to associate with whoever is being given the codes.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 04, 2016 5:44 PM  

OT: Listening to Erick Erickson's show about 25 minutes ago. He was ridiculing the #SpiritCooking hashtag. He actually believes that Spirit Cooking is nothing but a reference to a cookbook that can be purchased at the Museum of Modern Art; that the reference to such in the Podesta emails is nothing but an invite to a dinner party and nothing more.

I tweeted a summary of this to Mr. Erickson and followed with "You so kray-zay!" I did this because from time to time, when I say some shit about Erickson, some members of his loyal army of cuck-stoopids responds with foolishness. I'm waiting to see who takes the bait so I can point out the reams of information that makes "Bro. Erick" look like an idiot.

Anonymous RCFlyer November 04, 2016 5:47 PM  

Regarding moving overseas...I've planted myself in the whitest part of rural England, 96% white. Yes, the UK government is supremely cuckolded, but this is where it began and I am hoping the roots are deepest here.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2016 5:47 PM  

One begins to wonder if some of these "conservatives" are worried about their own names appearing in those emails.

Anonymous dystonia November 04, 2016 5:51 PM  

It's going to take a lot more than we have already to move an anti-Trumper of whatever underlying persuasion. Quoting from a non-public forum I'm on in a different identity, in response to the stuff that's appearing on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5aupnh/breaking_i_believe_i_have_connected_a_convicted/ in particular) --

"If you want to vote for Trump, go ahead. I'm not stopping you (though I do wish I could). But don't just throw anti-Clinton tirades at us; it's not going to convince anyone."

Anonymous Jake Saga November 04, 2016 5:52 PM  

@36 Soylent_Green:
Thank you for responding. I appreciate it.
Have considered Finland, as I have the right to apply for residency due to grandparents. But probably too cold for my wife.
Considering Croatia.
I would prefer Europe, because, well, that is our homeland.
And want a nation that hasn't been totally cucked, and which is mostly still homogenous. Croatia is poor enough that it hasn't really been a big draw for "refugees."
Anyway, thanks for advice.
Considering all.
Even sailboats.
I don't believe in running, but want to be around more like-minded people.
Here in MN, people are cucked as you can be. Christians here support immigration and abortion. Unbelievable. They wish to preserve literally nothing. Sad. Satanic.

Anonymous Macladdy November 04, 2016 5:54 PM  

"If it's real, then it follows that Podesta is into occult rituals. Or at the very least, he tried one once."

This would disqualify all catholics.

Blogger vtah November 04, 2016 5:59 PM  

In light of all this evil being exposed, it adds to the argument that the Alt-Right will not be successful without Christianity. Our enemies have Satan and we need GOD.

Anonymous johnc November 04, 2016 6:03 PM  

IMHO this is an indictment of Hillary as a candidate even if she had no knowledge of it.

There was an email where she was talking to Huma about this Marina. She knows all about it. For years we've had rumors that she's into satanic worship herself.

She didn't get to her level of untouchable power merely through hard work and feminine charm.

Anonymous johnc November 04, 2016 6:06 PM  

In light of all this evil being exposed, it adds to the argument that the Alt-Right will not be successful without Christianity. Our enemies have Satan and we need GOD.

Precisely. Excellent post.

Anonymous Uncle Maffoo November 04, 2016 6:07 PM  

@23 BKBG: Do you think they match?

Oh, no doubt...assuming she's not one of those chicks who waxes everything because she saw it in early 2000s porn.

Blogger Kristophr November 04, 2016 6:07 PM  

Looks like we got a hit here, if the Soros concern trolls and GOPe are coming out of the woodwork in comments.

Let's fire a few more rounds into Lolita Airlines. Attack attack attack!

Anonymous RCFlyer November 04, 2016 6:24 PM  

This whole election reminds me of the scene in "Gladiator" where Maximus is pitted against both the champion gladiator and the tigers - the people can see the contest is rigged, and when he wins anyway they love him unreservedly.

Blogger Basil Makedon November 04, 2016 6:42 PM  

The idea that this is Disinformation originating with the Clinton campaign is ridiculous. HRC will NEVER address any of it.

If it is Disinformation it probably falls into the category of trolling or click-baiting. I followed Ulsterman back in 2012 for awhile, but in the end a great deal of what he posted never panned out, not interested in going there again.

Fear of criticism is NOT the issue, the issue is effectiveness and efficiency.

I have -- you all have -- four more days to complete your work. You have friends, neighbors, co-workers and relatives to persuade. Each person or group may require different tools and approaches and you may have different goals for each. Some you persuade, some you motivate, some you demotivate.

The question is whether these allegations are a useful tool given the 4 days left to go. Simply put, passing on what seem to others to be obvious ill-sourced fabrications is not going to persuade and might be counter-productive.

I was very skeptical of the pedo-ring allegations when first posted. Indeed, VD posted the information and linked the reports disclaiming whether the info was solid or not.

I am now somewhat less skeptical. Some of those emails are strange to say the least or outright shady or just WTF. Moreover, I was unaware of the Trump lawsuit until very recently. This lawsuit looks like classic SJW projection. The mere fact that this would be constructed makes me more likely to believe all the mirror image allegations.

But, that doesn't change the fact that Disinformation is a thing: https://infogalactic.com/info/Disinformation

The Left is very good at Disinformation, Distraction and Dog-whistles. Obama is good at this when he unleashes his "Dense Packs"; Clinton was good at this in the 90s, but their tradecraft has not kept up.

Blogger Lazarus November 04, 2016 6:57 PM  

Re: the ad

(((Shellie Adelson))) is supposed to have shelled out $25 million for a late ad blitz.

Thank you Mr. Adelson

Blogger J Van Stry November 04, 2016 6:58 PM  

Rhetoric rhetoric rhetoric.
This is what wins elections. If election day comes and nothing has been revealed, IT WON'T MATTER. Because the momentum has been gathered and it is still starting to roll forward.
If they really don't have anything more than they have already put out, then waiting until the last minute (Saturday) is a good idea, because it only gives the Dems and Hillary two days to try and refute the TONS of damaging information out there.
Which they can't really do to much about right now, because they're scrambling to do damage control on what they think is coming out tomorrow!

These data dumps are being handled by people who know a lot more about politicking and elections than most of the right does (especially the establishment right), they are taking pages right out of the Clinton playbook and using them against Hillary.
And if more damning information comes out on Saturday, do you really think Hillary, who is sick in a hospital bed somewhere, can muster the force to combat it? If she tries people are going to see just how sick she is. And if it is bad enough, she and her cohorts are going to be looking for holes to crawl into, lest they find themselves lynched.

No, this is playing out really well for Trump suddenly, and whoever is behind all of this -really- has an axe to grind, and they're sharpening it rather well. If tomorrow does bring us a reveal of some hideous practices and proof of them, as we all suspect, then we are all going to be owing someone a huge debt of gratitude.
If it doesn't, we'll probably still be owing them, because this has been absolutely slaughtering Hillary in the polls, and polls don't shift back all that quickly.

Anonymous krymneth November 04, 2016 7:08 PM  

If the Clinton camp really were pushing the Satanic stuff to distract from the pedophilia stuff...

... well... first, read that sentence a couple of times and consider what it says about their position over all... reads about like Sheriff Bart taking himself hostage, only way less likely to end well...

... but then, it would have to come from a terrible misreading of the electorate. If they are Satanists they may not think it a big deal, having had their conscience and/or soul seared out of them long ago, and "virtue"-signaling (as inappropriate as the phrase has ever been) liberals may leap at the chance to show how tolerant and wonderful they are by performing a big song and dance routine about how tolerant they are of Satanism, but that about ends the list of people who will think it's just dandy. There's a lot of moderates who would flee from someone successfully linked to that. There's a lot of Democratic constituencies who will flee from that. There's plenty of atheists who may consider the whole thing bunk but still not anything they want the leader of their country anywhere near. If it's better than being tarred as a pedophile, it ain't by much. If they think everyone is going to consider it self-evidently silly, they don't understand the electorate anymore.

The really interesting thing that the Satanism accusation can do that even the pedophilia can't do is spread like wildfire through social media and through word-of-mouth channels (and the two combine super-linearly) that otherwise wouldn't carry any negative information about Hillary, not even the pedophilia charges. Lots of Democrats still attend churches, and only the most Churchianityish of the Churchianity churches are going to embrace outright Satanism, even now. Even if the leadership tries the rank and file are unlikely to fall in line. It may not matter whether the press reports on it anymore, which would truly be the end of the news media as the Decider.

Blogger Kristophr November 04, 2016 7:16 PM  

Breitbart is now aboard:

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/

Blogger Fenris Wulf November 04, 2016 7:22 PM  

I admit, part of me believes that Hillary Clinton will never be held accountable, and the email scandal is some kind of cruel hoax. The Robert Cormier books I read as a kid left a lasting impression. There's been a disturbingly triumphialist mood from the Left in recent years, i.e., "Yes, we really ARE that evil, and there's nothing you can do about it." I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Blogger GFR November 04, 2016 7:34 PM  

@79
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I believe the attitude of the left is based on something different.
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For decades they looked forward to the "revolution" that would usher in global communism. They felt that they were righteous because their intentions were good.
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Then the soviet union collapsed and red china turned to crony capitalism.
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But the leftists STILL hated the capitalist system. In particular they hated Everyday Americans who were so stupid that they rejected the socialist system.
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So they took solace in their belief that capitalism would eventually collapse AS WELL.
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They went from being all about peace and love and ushering in a more just world to - "you're all going to die and there's nothing you can do about it."
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They would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven..

Blogger praetorian November 04, 2016 7:34 PM  

The Brietbart interview is what really has me wondering. Why would the founder of Blackrock throw away all his credibility with such specific, time-constrained claims?

He said he had a personal source high within the NYPD, and that stuff was going down right now.

That seems extremely falsifiable if anyone in the NY press were interested.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT November 04, 2016 7:36 PM  

To those who have pointed out, in response to my post, the evidence that Hillary knew and is just as evil...

My inclination is to believe you are right. But the reasoning in my post was a rough attempt at a cuck proof / atheist proof argument.

Since I know "it can't be that bad" types in both camps.

Oh yeah: @68 - Amen.

Blogger Lazarus November 04, 2016 7:45 PM  

Macladdy wrote:Or maybe it's all a farce, maybe the rumors are unsubstantiated for the most obvious reason and maybe The only ones that care about the rumors are the loons in the alt right.

Could be.


Or not.

Blogger Lazarus November 04, 2016 7:47 PM  

Macladdy wrote:"If it's real, then it follows that Podesta is into occult rituals. Or at the very least, he tried one once."

This would disqualify all catholics.


Not edifying, Agent Macladdy

Blogger M Cephas November 04, 2016 7:49 PM  

Don't forget Clinton's inner circle has also been caught in previous occult/satanic talk in past Wikileak.

"With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the

backyard to Moloch"

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/14333

Blogger JWM in SD November 04, 2016 7:50 PM  

"Regarding moving overseas...I've planted myself in the whitest part of rural England, 96% white. Yes, the UK government is supremely cuckolded, but this is where it began and I am hoping the roots are deepest here."

No offense but...YOU'RE ON AN ISLAND!!

Anonymous Clay November 04, 2016 7:51 PM  

Lord. I'll be happy just when the "cuck" shit dies.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2016 7:52 PM  

Why would "cuck" die? It's super-effective.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 04, 2016 7:55 PM  

Going off topic again. A friend hipped me to this interview between Alex Jones and The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7SKLlIj64o

Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 04, 2016 8:08 PM  

I try to use 'cuck' whenever it is relevant. It is accurate, concise, and twists the blade for maximum pain. It only annoys cucks, clueless humorless clowns, SJWs, and prissy pants. What could be better?

Anonymous Clay November 04, 2016 8:10 PM  

No. "cuck" is not super-effective. Please explain why?

I'm not criticizing the expression...I just don't get it.

I understand it's meaning...it just seems stoopid & juvenile.

Anonymous gxg November 04, 2016 8:12 PM  

Scenes from a Marina Abramovic Gala:
https://vimeo.com/36061419

A summary for those who'd rather not watch: There's a full-size cake made to look like a mostly naked woman. They chop "her" up and eat her.

Blogger praetorian November 04, 2016 8:16 PM  

I understand it's meaning...it just seems stoopid & juvenile.

'Cuck' destroyed the limp-wristed faggot GOP establishment. It's the most successful right-wing meme of the last fifty years, the first one to even come close to competing with 'racist'.

I'm very sorry it offends your sensibilities.

Blogger VD November 04, 2016 8:32 PM  

No. "cuck" is not super-effective. Please explain why?

I'm not criticizing the expression...I just don't get it.

I understand it's meaning...it just seems stoopid & juvenile.


Because it bothers people like you. It REALLY bothers people to whom it applies. Effective rhetoric is all about provoking an emotional response. Whether you "get" it or not is irrelevant.

Anonymous Walter Oleg November 04, 2016 8:49 PM  

Give me control of a nation's blackmail material and I care not who controls the money supply.

-Walter Oleg

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2016 8:54 PM  

No conservative ever got spitting mad about being called a RINO, or a member of the GOPe or Conservatism Inc. Those are all accurate descriptive terms, perhaps more logically accurate than "cuckservative." But "cuckservative" drives them up the freaking wall. Apparently Glenn Beck did a show about it to try to ridicule the term, shame it, and beg his listeners not to use it.

It might be the most effective bit of political rhetoric invented in my lifetime, even better than SJW, which is pretty darn good too. If you can't see why it's effective, that's okay; just observe the reaction and know that it is.

Anonymous Clay November 04, 2016 9:06 PM  

Ok. But, it really doesn't bother" me.

I apologize if I offended you. "Effective rhetoric", I've used my self.

Perhaps, not as effectively as you.

Blogger ZhukovG November 04, 2016 9:06 PM  

I know a lot of people are impatient for the FBI to move on this, but there are good reasons for them to move very carefully and keep their cards hidden.

1. The FBI has to make sure this thing is done right, because they will be dealing with likely hostile judges.

2. The FBI has to make sure this doesn't look like a political hit job. So the date of the election is completely irrelevant to the case.

3. The potential suspects are powerful people with the resources and contacts to flee the country. If possible, making sure those avenues are closed is important.

4. Investigations like this also involve a kind of game of musical chairs. There is only one chair marked 'Immunity Deal' in the middle. Ideally you want the conspirators to sweat until one rushes for that one chair. At that point the whole conspiracy falls apart.

Blogger Lazarus November 04, 2016 9:16 PM  

@89

Politics makes strange bedfellows. Farrakhan is now an ally.

Anonymous Ron November 04, 2016 9:18 PM  

@98

He always has been. Black separation is music to my ears.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 04, 2016 9:25 PM  

Ron wrote:@98

He always has been. Black separation is music to my ears.

Farrakhan is the enemy of my Black neighbors. But he does want the one thing that will fix the problem, because he's not blue-pilled. So far as we can use him to reach an amicable sentiment, that's a good thing. But we must include an out for folks like Al from Bayshore, so that we do not abandon our real allies to his thuggish anti-Christian brutality.

Anonymous johnc November 04, 2016 9:28 PM  

The FBI has to make sure this doesn't look like a political hit job. So the date of the election is completely irrelevant to the case.

I could see why they wouldn't want to be on the public front lines on this. But that means they need to get this information out through other sources. And oh what a coincidence, Wikileaks provides the perfect avenue.

There is something more important than trying to win an indictment against Hillary, and that's the damn election. If she wins, she walks. And not only does she walk but she's going to take scalps in the process.

And frankly, if the FBI sat on their hands until after the election, they shouldn't expect any assistance from the American people when Hillary starts demanding heads. F 'em. If they're not with us, they're on their own.

Anonymous Just another commenter November 04, 2016 9:35 PM  

@98 - indeed. You can't (legally) electioneer from the pulpit, but I bet there are going to be some pretty fiery sermons on the subject of demonic possession in some black churches this Sunday. Black GOTV might not have the effect on the ballot that the Dems expect it too.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope November 04, 2016 9:37 PM  

I visited the JFK museum in Dallas last month. They still had the large scale model setup by the FBI to study the angles, film, basically the whole assassination.

not a big fan of the Feds, but they do tend to be fairly thorough in building their case. How many resources can they pull off of other cases and put on this one? How do they control their own internal politics, and voting preferences and biases?

It's not like any of us here are huge fans of the NYPD either, and don't get me started on the completely converged DOJ.

If you're a praying person, pray that God's (not ours) will be done here, which is a very difficult prayer sometimes. But He is a God of justice, and any criminal, sinful behavior these elites have done has impacted Him far, far more than us.

Buckle down, enjoy life, love your families, and keep up your relentless push for the right things. That is what character is about.

Anonymous 11/4 November 04, 2016 9:37 PM  

@14
Biden groping and making sexual remarks to young girl, on camera (must turn up volume to hear, watch the girl's face):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jtybQS0eIA

I know D.C. corrupt, but this is ... I can wait until abroad to update passport; getting resume ready for a Hillary win. Not sure I'll have time to get out, but there's no future here when leaders are Satanist child abusers.

Watch any activity: whether a group is successful or falls apart is entirely dependent on the leadership. These Satanists will have Americans killing each other in the streets and won't need 8 years to do it.

Trump wins, I'll wait and see what he does.

Anonymous Mantle of Hate November 04, 2016 9:38 PM  

Vox is right re this latest furor, yet three weeks ago I would have disagreed. Way back then there was I believe an attempt to Distract, Discredit and Demoralise us by getting us to ignore the very real corruption and outright treason that was getting leaked daily. I think it was a tactic because it had tactical results: many people seemed to be 'hanging out' waiting for the big one to drop, when they could have been memeing leaks that were already bad enough. It put us on the back foot. When the inevitable Project Veritas killshot or whatever failed to drop it demoralised us and to an extent made Cucks at least feel discredited.

Having said all that a) there is no way this is a deliberate distraction, and b) if it is, somebody screwed up: there is no time for us to be demoralised when it doesn't drop as it could drop at any point up till election day, and we can't be discredited when no evidence of child sex rings eventuates, because that won't happen till after the election either.

True or not this particular rumour is deadly and needs to be memed constantly.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 04, 2016 9:42 PM  

11/4 wrote:Biden groping and making sexual remarks to young girl, on camera (must turn up volume to hear, watch the girl's face):
"Do you know how horny I am to have a 13-year-old girl standing right next to me? Ask my daughter Ashley about the film."

I realize there's an effect where seeing the words makes you hear them subconsciously. Can somebody listen without watching? 'Cause I want confirmation.

Blogger ZhukovG November 04, 2016 9:45 PM  

johnc: If the FBI has a case I doubt they are 'sitting on their hands'. Also, winning an indictment IS the important thing from a criminal investigation perspective.

From an Alt-Right perspective; we have already won the election, regardless of who becomes President. Would our path forward be easier under Trump? Maybe. But we have a path forward regardless.

Let me close my commenting on this thread with some words from a 'Real' New England Patriot.

“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
Samuel Adams

Blogger Cail Corishev November 04, 2016 9:50 PM  

@96, Clay, no worries. You'd have to work a lot harder than that to offend anyone here. A lot of smart people here didn't think "cuckservative" was good when it first showed up, but it's proved itself. That's the funny thing about rhetoric, especially insults: it doesn't have to make any sense.

I used to be bad at rhetoric, because I was too focused on making sense, and thought the soundest argument should win the day. I had to access my inner schoolyard bully and turn him loose a bit when dealing with leftists and trolls. Felt weird at first, but you learn to like it.

Anonymous 11/4 November 04, 2016 9:52 PM  

@106 @104
He's groping her as Biden says it, and her face expression registers the shock and disgust.

What kind of man grabs another man's daughter like that and whispers shit into her ear that causes that expression?

Biden is sexual predator.

Blogger Badger Brigadon November 04, 2016 9:53 PM  

"AH HAH!" Hillary said as she climbs the railing of the exquisitely-detailed Bell helicopter, golden gilt glittering from the posh black interior as her entourage crowds it's way inside."What do you think this is, a movie? Sure I sold those little bitches to Epstein, and killed anyone that stood in my way..."

Agent Henderson could only look on helplessly as the rotor blades began accelerating, sending the witch queen's hair flying despite it's rugged helmet of hair spray. A solid wall of two suited security men with their MP-4's pointed at his chest ensured he could do nothing else.

"This is the real world, fool... in the real world, people like me ALWAYS get away and are fabulously rich... only stupid ground pounding peasants like you have to worry about..." Her word was suddenly interrupted by a choking cough, her skin bleeding to white as a trickle of scarlet edged down her chin.
She fell forward, a subtle crack audible as her face impacted the concrete and her pantsuited legs clambered behind her down the Helo's ladder.

Behind her, a wan, sallow-faced Bill stood, slowly dropping a large letter opener dripping with blood and then raising his hands submissively for arrest. "I always hated that bitch. In the real world, people like her DIE for what they do."

Blogger Badger Brigadon November 04, 2016 9:59 PM  

As Agent Henderson cuffed Bills hands behind his back, the failing ex president shook his head sadly. "That beast has been blackmailing me for fifty years... She was wrong though..."
henderson raised his chin slightly, holding off reading Miranda rights for a moment as he nodded for Bill to continue.
"People like us... she said we never go to prison. The real truth is that we never GET to prison. I have been HIV positive for thirty years... I probably won't even make it to the arraignment."

Henderson nodded, and started "You have the right to remain silent." as he led the dying man towards the elevator off the roof.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett November 04, 2016 10:01 PM  

@106 re104

Snidely,

I did as you asked. Hadn't seen that video ever before (I read comments bottom to top subsequent to first view of any OP, so I don't have to scan down and find where I left off.)

Anyway, I was about to quit because I heard nothing, when Creepy Uncle Joe says it plain as day. Like the voice of Beelzebub.

I was already convinced days ago. This I all stomach churning, though sadly not surprising. Shocking, morally, but yet, there's nothing new under the sun.

Blogger Jack November 04, 2016 10:10 PM  

MSN is running an article about this called "The Alt-Right's October Surprise: Satan." from the Daily Beast. It ridicules the rumors, of course. But what I'm wondering is why they feel a need to pre-empt by running anything at all? As Vox said, it does them no good to mention these rumors in any way, at all. So why draw attention to it?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 04, 2016 10:10 PM  

98 & 99 There is a faction of us who have no shame about Black separatism. From my POV, this is not about being anti-White but being pro-Black. Being pro-Black, from my POV, was about addressing the destruction of Black owned institutions based in the Black community via integration. The Civil Rights Negroes promoted integration with no understanding of the economic impact of such an approach. IMHO, integration destroyed the Black community. Farrakhan, an extension of Booker T. Washington, articulated these ideas. I will admit that Farrakhan embarked on an anti-Western civilization set of ideas. On this point, I will disagree with him. I will, however, agree with his ideas that the Black community needs to "do for self". "Doing for self" is absent of the idea of seeking government handouts. Government handouts, in my opinion, played a HUGE role in the destruction of the Black family unite which, in turn, destroyed the Black community. The Civil Rights movement, which is different from "self help ideology", destroyed the Black community. White folks have cucks and Black folks have Uncle Toms.

Blogger OGRE November 04, 2016 10:11 PM  

I spoke with an acquaintance/client who is an openly practicing Satanist (and Trump supporter) in her late 50s. She says that the 'spirit cooking' is bogus, that its not any actual satanic ritual; just someone trying to get attention by being shocking. My guess is its more 'play occult' than anything else...like ouija boards and seances for rich grownups. I'm sure theres plenty of perverse stuff going on, including child rape, but my feeling is these people are so self-interested that they have allegiance only to themselves and are not consciously devoted to Satan (although they are in his service nonetheless.)

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 04, 2016 10:17 PM  

Just wanna say "Good fences make good neighbors". Fences are a good thing. If y'all wanna borrow my lawn mower, I got no problem with that. Just make sure you return it with the tank full. And I'll only loan it to you if you are an SEC fan. ROLL TIDE!

Blogger Fenris Wulf November 04, 2016 10:17 PM  

Good fic, Badger. Makes me miss Vince Flynn.

Anonymous krymneth November 04, 2016 10:17 PM  

Black preachers will preach as they please Sunday. Nobody's going to arrest them. Hillary won't even have time to be vindictive at them specifically when she's going to be busy being vindictive in general.

Blogger Badger Brigadon November 04, 2016 10:27 PM  

@117-
Vince was an artist. 24 rocked despite too much PC.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 04, 2016 10:37 PM  

Hezekiah Garrett wrote:Anyway, I was about to quit because I heard nothing, when Creepy Uncle Joe says it plain as day. Like the voice of Beelzebub.
I'm out of words. Rope will have to suffice.

OGRE wrote:I'm sure theres plenty of perverse stuff going on, including child rape, but my feeling is these people are so self-interested that they have allegiance only to themselves and are not consciously devoted to Satan (although they are in his service nonetheless.)
And do you seriously think ANY servant of Satan thinks of himself any differently? SAurman was not going to really knuckle under to Sauron, was he?

Al From Bay Shore wrote:On this point, I will disagree with him. I will, however, agree with his ideas that the Black community needs to "do for self".
The Irish phrase was Sinn Fein "Ourselves Alone". They had had 3 rebellions, including the one that ended with my great-great-grandfather in this country with a British price on his head, ruined by the treachery of supposed allies. The lesson was a hard one, "You have no real allies only people willing to use you to reach their own ends." So long as your aims are congruent, you may work with them, but you never ever ever depend on them. If they're not your tribe, your kin, they're not on your side.
So, as much as I dislike Farrakhan, he's a resource, not an ally.

Anonymous BGKB November 04, 2016 10:42 PM  

Bitter old queens hate new Milo ad http://www.towleroad.com/2016/11/homocon-scum-milo-yiannopoulos-burns-rainbow-flag-in-pro-trump-ad-watch/

Blogger Johnny November 04, 2016 10:49 PM  

@115My guess is its more 'play occult' than anything else...

If it gets traction in the political arena it is okay with me. But really this stuff is all but certain to be roll playing if they get into it. Like a costume party.

Also, if they get into illicit sex of an evil nature, like with kids, playing around with satanic ritual would be a way of making a game of it. Once that boundary is crossed it becomes true evil whether they sincerely believe in the pagan gods (or the Devil) or not. So, not making excuses here for the bad stuff.

A second guess is that if this influences voters, the probable reason is that it implicitly allows the strictly religious permission to vote for Trump despite his deviation from what they see as doctrine. Could be important on that level.

Given that it has not been rebuffed in a convincing way, and probably can't be at this point, the whole thing has to be seen as a political success. Nice going.

Anonymous johnc November 04, 2016 10:56 PM  

The one interesting thing is that the DNC doesn't seem nervous at all.

Anonymous DissidentRight November 04, 2016 10:58 PM  

As Vox said, it does them no good to mention these rumors in any way, at all. So why draw attention to it?

It's a rout. They are panicking.

Blogger ace November 04, 2016 10:59 PM  

"And do you seriously think ANY servant of Satan thinks of himself any differently?"

Exactly. That's why Satanic cults are just a joke. No one is loyal to Satan. They wind up in his orbit, and how could they be anything but resentful at that?

Anonymous Sharrukin November 04, 2016 11:00 PM  

Both Assange and Soros have said that Trump won't be allowed to win. I assume they both know more than most.

It seems they aren't going to win even by cheating as far as votes go.

Could they be planning an electoral college upset with enough faithless electors provided by the GOP elites to give the electoral vote to a pre-selected candidate?

Anonymous Macladdy November 04, 2016 11:02 PM  

So, I guess that whole "Remember, Remember the 5th of November" thing was bullshit.

Blogger Johnny November 04, 2016 11:02 PM  

@121 Bitter old queens hate new Milo ad http://www.towleroad.com/2016/11/homocon-scum-milo-yiannopoulos-burns-rainbow-flag-in-pro-trump-ad-watch/


Actually I would like to disapprove of Milo but I can't because I agree with him in too many areas.

Something that is as predictable as anything is, is that the left, should it come to power, will start enforcing its own new conformity. And part of that will be go after its own non conforming members . It is the natural consolidation of power. The only issue well be how long it will take. It could happen immediately or in a few years, depending on expediency.

Blogger OGRE November 04, 2016 11:07 PM  

@122 I agree completely. I was simply relaying information. And if the Clinton=satan worshipper narrative helps Trump win the election I'm all for it.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 04, 2016 11:08 PM  

127. Macladdy November 04

"So, I guess that whole "Remember, Remember the 5th of November" thing was bullshit."

We'll know that on the 5th won't we.

Blogger Madame Ringading November 04, 2016 11:11 PM  

@126

In that case, the turncoat electors better have their tickets to Quatar all ready. Even if they make good their escape, I would not want to be a close relative or associate of theirs. Just making observations from previous historical patterns... here.

Blogger S. Thermite November 04, 2016 11:16 PM  

My guess is its more 'play occult' than anything else

From what I've read, much of occult ritual is "playing" at it. There are so many different occult orders that have sprung-up in different centuries and locations. that I think much of it is made-up and eventually gets the veneer of tradition. An Aztec occultist, Voodoo occultist, Golden Dawn occultist, and Chinese occultist, and an ancient Canaanite occultist will all have had different rituals. There are also different orders of Satanists. To paraphrase a former occultist who converted to Christianity, these are wicked, deluded people crawling through the murk and the darkness looking for hidden power and knowledge. I heard that Crowley even resorted to eating his own feces as he descended further into insanity. As it is with symbols, what matters in the intent and the meaning they're trying to convey.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 04, 2016 11:17 PM  

131. Madame Ringading

"In that case, the turncoat electors better have their tickets to Quatar all ready. Even if they make good their escape, I would not want to be a close relative or associate of theirs."

I agree, but these people are a toxic mix of stupid and arrogant and I wouldn't put it past them. Technically legal but that wouldn't stop the explosion.

That may be why Obama expressed support for Comey. Perhaps they have someone else in mind?

Blogger bob kek mando ( I are Spartacus ... and you can too! C'mon, give it a try, these crosses are way more comfy than they look ) November 04, 2016 11:25 PM  

106. Snidely Whiplash November 04, 2016 9:42 PM
'Cause I want confirmation.



doesn't really matter what he actually said.

look at the girl's reaction; she immediately freezes up.

whatever the specific words were, they were clearly inappropriate and really made that child uncomfortable.

Blogger bob kek mando ( I are Spartacus ... and you can too! C'mon, give it a try, these crosses are way more comfy than they look ) November 04, 2016 11:27 PM  

115. OGRE November 04, 2016 10:11 PM
I spoke with an acquaintance/client who is an openly practicing Satanist (and Trump supporter) in her late 50s. She says that the 'spirit cooking' is bogus



and you
...
believed
...
a Satanist told you the Truth?

might i suggest that you are rather too credulous to be a lawyer?

Blogger OGRE November 04, 2016 11:29 PM  

@126 thats possible but very risky and would require a high degree of coordination among numerous, disparate state parties. The big risk would be no candidate getting enough votes in the electoral college to be elected and thus it gets sent to the House where the Republican party has a huge advantage--I think its 30 to 17 with 3 tied delegations. And while electors don't generally have to answer to the people, the Representatives do. In the House vote its limited to the top 3 candidates by electoral votes. So if it ends up there it would be very difficult to find that many Repub delegations to switch; it would be career suicide for many Reps if they did that.

The coordination needed to get enough electors to go rogue at the college is immense. The Rep party at the state level isn't that interconnected, and the state parties that would most likely to try to do something like that are probably in states going blue anyways. Many states have laws imposing fines and jail for rogue electors. If its a very close election it would be feasible, but if its more than 10 or 20 EV difference then it gets exponentially more difficult. Still, if Trump wins by a small margin I wouldn't be surprised to see a campaign to try to get electors to switch their vote to HRC. Assuming shes not arrested first of course.

But given that the GOPe couldn't prevent a Trump nomination, and given their general incompetence and ineffectiveness, I don't think they have it in them to try to turn the election over to HRC in the electoral college. I think their plan is vote rigging of some sort as that can be done in some very specific locations in certain key states to have maximum effect with much lower risk.

Blogger OGRE November 04, 2016 11:36 PM  

@135 No you might not.

Blogger wreckage November 04, 2016 11:39 PM  

It doesn't matter if you're only pretending to paint the wall with semen, ironically, if you are, in fact, painting the wall with semen.

It's not a matter of whether it's "real occult" - all modern Western traditions are bogus at some level - it's still massively deviant behaviour. In fact even gathering around to watch while someone paints a wall with FAKE semen is massively deviant behaviour.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 04, 2016 11:43 PM  

136. OGRE November 04, 2016 11:29 PM

"@126 thats possible but very risky and would require a high degree of coordination among numerous, disparate state parties."

All good points.

However.

If Wikileaks and the other sources are correct about the pedophile abuse they may already be highly coordinated, or at least highly motivated to keep the apple cart from being upset.

It isn't just a Democratic thing. There are rumors about HW Bush and there are the close ties between the Bush and Clinton clans.

They may have no other choice.

"If that f - - - ing bastard wins, we all hang from nooses!" - Hillary Clinton

Maybe this wasn't hyperbole. Maybe she meant exactly what she said?

Blogger Harold November 04, 2016 11:57 PM  

The first of the faithless electors has announced. And it's one of hers.

Blogger OGRE November 05, 2016 12:05 AM  

@139 oh I think she was deadly serious when she said that.

My point on the electors though is that the way electors are chosen makes it very difficult to coordinate that type of result. Electors are chosen by slate at each state's convention (typically held in May, well before the nat'l conventions.) They are usually either voted on by the state convention delegates or by party committee. So we are talking about thousands of potential electors, grouped in varying slates, voted on by tens of thousands of delegates and committee members. So planting enough rogue electors on the various slates to ensure that there would be enough electors in the electoral college to vote against the party nominee, and potentially face fines or imprisonment, becomes a daunting task. And if theres one thing we've learned about our political leaders during this election cycle, its that they really aren't all that clever.

I think if they are going for an electoral college upset its going to be by an active post-election campaign. I don't think they had the foresight outreach or control to get enough plants to rig the electoral vote. If they did, then Trump would never have won the nomination in the first place.

Blogger OGRE November 05, 2016 12:06 AM  

@140 Nice find Harold. Sorry you had to hit HuffPo to find it though.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 05, 2016 12:21 AM  

141. OGRE

"Electors are chosen by slate at each state's convention (typically held in May, well before the nat'l conventions.) They are usually either voted on by the state convention delegates or by party committee.
A lot of them would be GOP functionaries wouldn't they? With Ryan, Cruz, Rubio, the Bush clan, and Romney on side how many of them would jump ship given enough financial or political incentive?

The fines tend to be around $1,000 or so.

These people can put millions on the table.

I don't think they had the foresight outreach or control to get enough plants to rig the electoral vote. If they did, then Trump would never have won the nomination in the first place.

They tried though.

While this is true with regards to the Republican Primary, almost the entire Democratic slate would be available to them from the outset in the General.

They would only need to make up the remainder from GOP party loyalists.

Anonymous JAG November 05, 2016 12:33 AM  

And so once again we see that the people of the left wing/left hand path of evil black magic in all their naked wickedness. We also see why the people of the left are liars, champion industrialized baby murder by the millions, and worship only themselves via the collection of money and power.

This is why I can no longer allow ignorance to those people of the left. They are evil, and they embrace it.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 05, 2016 12:36 AM  

So after the Trumpslide, we can look forward to a couple months of NeverTrumpers trying to manipulate enough electors to switch to Clinton, and failing yet again. Gee, can't wait.

It's not a matter of whether it's "real occult"

Yeah, if you seriously call on Satan, it really doesn't matter whether you use the right rites. It's the intent that matters.

So why draw attention to it?

The simplest explanation is that they think (or know) that it's going to come out, so they have no choice but to try to get ahead of it. It has been seeping out into social media today, even though I think most people in the know were waiting for bigger news to drop. The SpiritCooking stuff is pretty big on its own.

Blogger Natalie November 05, 2016 12:40 AM  

Add some of the Southern Nationalists to the list of cucks and other cranks who think that Trump is just too nasty for words. I get it - you're a Southern Nationalist. Voting in federal elections is against your principles. But when you see a guy like Trump smashing your enemies left and right to sit on your hands and say "Well, he gave his daughter to a Jew" and "Look, we already knew it was all corrupt" just pisses me off. Trump has done more for the people of this country and more to destroy it's enemies internal than any other political figure I can think of atm.

Oh yeah, and they don't like the alt-right either. Well, they better get used to it. The alt-right is currently a heck of a lot more effective and relevant than whatever it is they're doing....

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 12:53 AM  

93. VD November 04, 2016 8:32 PM
No. "cuck" is not super-effective. Please explain why?

I'm not criticizing the expression...I just don't get it.

I understand it's meaning...it just seems stoopid & juvenile.

Because it bothers people like you. It REALLY bothers people to whom it applies. Effective rhetoric is all about provoking an emotional response. Whether you "get" it or not is irrelevant.

Huh. So, I suppose "penis-head" has the same connotation?

I can't expect you to get it.

Anonymous Ron November 05, 2016 12:55 AM  

@146

The South was lost in the 60's. They had there chance and blew it.

Blogger OGRE November 05, 2016 12:55 AM  

@143 I could see bribery or intimidation being a potentially effective tactic once the electors are known. Put together a dossier on every elector and see if you can find some who you can bribe or bully into switching their vote. That seems much easier than trying to predetermine the electors.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 05, 2016 12:58 AM  

The one thing I can say about the elites...they will not go gently into the night.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 1:00 AM  

Natalie wrote:The alt-right is currently a heck of a lot more effective and relevant than whatever it is they're doing....
wanking

Blogger Kristophr November 05, 2016 1:04 AM  

No rogue elector has ever been successfully punished by mere state law.

The constitution gives electors the right to vote as they please, regardless of pledges.

Jefferson was only elected because, after a rogue elector changed his vote from Jefferson to Burr, and deadlocked the college with a Jefferson-Burr tie, one of the Federalists deliberately voted for Jefferson to make sure Burr was only elected to Vice President.

Blogger Hector Henry November 05, 2016 1:05 AM  

This is wildly exaggerated. Conspiracy theories aren't what's doing us in.

Anti-Whites tell us OPENLY that White countries must be turned Brown.

No Dark Satanic Cult is doing this.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 1:13 AM  

Since I'm not so smart of a guy, can someone give me a good reason why the Presidential Vote is not decided by the popular vote?

I think the Electoral College is shit.

Anonymous JAG November 05, 2016 1:14 AM  

Hector Henry wrote:This is wildly exaggerated. Conspiracy theories aren't what's doing us in.

Anti-Whites tell us OPENLY that White countries must be turned Brown.

No Dark Satanic Cult is doing this.


What reason would non evil people have for wanting this outcome?

Evil is the only answer. This left hand vs right hand path has been playing out for thousands of years. All the behaviors of the leftists, what they champion, and how the conduct themselves only strengthen this conclusion.

Do you ever wonder why a guy like Steve Jobs chose Apple Corporate logo (the bite from the apple in the Garden of Edin)? It's in your face, and over the top, but most people are either completely ignorant about these things, or they just cannot believe it due to cognitive dissonance.

Satan is the lord of the material world. These leftist occultist power players sure as hell believe it.

Anonymous JAG November 05, 2016 1:16 AM  

Clay wrote:Since I'm not so smart of a guy, can someone give me a good reason why the Presidential Vote is not decided by the popular vote?

I think the Electoral College is shit.


Because much wiser men than you or I long ago realized that pure Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

"Democracy" is code for "mob rule".

Blogger ace November 05, 2016 1:20 AM  

We should note that Clay is in truth an adversary engaging in hostile elenchus. Of course he is no Socrates, so I don't think there is much of a threat.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 1:40 AM  

Well, ace, I certainly would not want to threaten you with my diminished intellect...but, would you care to proffer an answer?

JAG say's we should be scared of MOB RULE.

How many peoples take money from the taxpayers, and how many taxpayers are left?

Blogger Cail Corishev November 05, 2016 1:40 AM  

Huh. So, I suppose "penis-head" has the same connotation?

Generally not, though it could be if your target is self-conscious about his penis-shaped head.

Your concern is noted.

Anonymous Just another commenter November 05, 2016 1:47 AM  

@140 Good to hear. Maybe we'll get a Trumpslide, and on top of that we could see a few dozen electors will look at the mounting pile of evidence against The Witch and decide it won't actually affect the outcome, so they cast it for Bernie to rub their conniving into the face of the DNC. Make the win WAY outside the margin of fraud and manipulation.

That would be sweet. Almost as sweet as pics of a whole bunch of politicians and appointees in orange jumpsuits and shackles.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 1:48 AM  

Just a joke with VD, Corishev.

Blogger Harold November 05, 2016 1:59 AM  

The electoral ensures no regional president with 90% of the vote from 40% of the country. Any candidate needs to have a broad swath of support across the whole country. If all states allocated their electoral votes the same way Maine and Nebraska do, that would become even more true. Which is why it will never happen. It was an idiot R-C-I (Republican/Conservative/Independent lines) NYS Senator who introduced the bill to make the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact part of state law, when he should have been pushing and introducing the Maine way.

That's why each state gets two votes extra, to give the smaller or more rural states more power so they're not ruled by larger urban states. Also to mention- the fixed 435 members of the House is unconstitutional. 14th Amendment Section 2. Each state should have it's last census population divided by the smallest states population to determine the number of representatives. Round up or down as appropriate.

Blogger OGRE November 05, 2016 2:10 AM  

@154 The fed gov was never intended to be a government for the 'people.' It was meant to govern the States, to regulate their activity between and among each other and to represent the States as a unified body to foreign states. The Constitution is essentially a contract with each of the States as a party, creating a Confederation of sovereigns.

As originally laid out, the only role the people had directly in the federal government was to elect the House of Representatives. This was understood to be the weaker house in the federal legilsature, with representatives serving short terms. And it was how the general population was to be represented in the federal government. The Senate was elected by the State Legislatures until the 17th Ammendment was ratified in 1913, which then required the direct election of Senators. Thus the Senate was intended to represent the interests of the State governments. The President was elected by the electoral college, but the electors are not required to be chosen by popular vote. The state legislatures are free to determine how electors are to be determined; they could provide for a popular vote, they could select the electors themselves, they could appoint a committe, however they want. In fact a state legislature could still change it to where that state doesn't have a popular election of electors. Thus the Presidency could be even farther removed from the general population if the State legislatures so desired. And again, the President is more a representative of the States than of the people.

Now as the federal government has greatly increased its power, what with the commerce clause being expanded into meaninglessness and the federal bureaucracy growing to a size that would make even the Byzantines jealous, the federal government has a much more direct role in the people's lives than was intended. So to us it seems that we should have a much more direct input into the federal government. That was why the 17th was ratified, and its why we hear now for calls to remove the electoral college.

But the short answer is that the federal government was intended to be a government over the States and not the population, and so the President was intended to represent the interests of the States more so than the general citizenry.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 2:12 AM  

Uh. I guess that's what made Lincoln President?

??

Blogger ace November 05, 2016 2:21 AM  

Clay wrote:Well, ace, I certainly would not want to threaten you with my diminished intellect...but, would you care to proffer an answer?

I wasn't responding to a question of yours in the first place. I don't think Socrates would really appreciate you using his methods in such a sloppy, disingenuous fashion.

He would've been quite adept at responding to my statement. He would have, in fact, destroyed me easily. You, however, are too much of a dope.

I suggest you employ methods more appropriate to your (admittedly) low level of intelligence. In short, I suggest sincerity.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 2:29 AM  

OGRE wrote:@154 The fed gov was never intended to be a government for the 'people.' It was meant to govern the States, to regulate their activity between and among each other and to represent the States as a unified body to foreign states. The Constitution is essentially a contract with each of the States as a party, creating a Confederation of sovereigns.

As originally laid out, the only role the people had directly in the federal government was to elect the House of Representatives. This was understood to be the weaker house in the federal legilsature, with representatives serving short terms. And it was how the general population was to be represented in the federal government. The Senate was elected by the State Legislatures until the 17th Ammendment was ratified in 1913, which then required the direct election of Senators. Thus the Senate was intended to represent the interests of the State governments. The President was elected by the electoral college, but the electors are not required to be chosen by popular vote. The state legislatures are free to determine how electors are to be determined; they could provide for a popular vote, they could select the electors themselves, they could appoint a committe, however they want. In fact a state legislature could still change it to where that state doesn't have a popular election of electors. Thus the Presidency could be even farther removed from the general population if the State legislatures so desired. And again, the President is more a representative of the States than of the people.

Now as the federal government has greatly increased its power, what with the commerce clause being expanded into meaninglessness and the federal bureaucracy growing to a size that would make even the Byzantines jealous, the federal government has a much more direct role in the people's lives than was intended. So to us it seems that we should have a much more direct input into the federal government. That was why the 17th was ratified, and its why we hear now for calls to remove the electoral college.

But the short answer is that the federal government was intended to be a government over the States and not the population, and so the President was intended to represent the interests of the States more so than the general citizenry.


OK. You have been most eloquent.

However...you did not explain the need for the Electoral College in the political current of today.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 05, 2016 2:37 AM  

166. Clay November 05, 2016 2:29 AM

"However...you did not explain the need for the Electoral College in the political current of today."

On a population basis California can outvote around 30 or so of the low population states.

Blogger Harold November 05, 2016 2:38 AM  

@166 Clay-

One of the modern reasons as I said above- to prevent a regional/favorite son type who got 90% of the vote from one regions while other candidates split the vote in the rest of the country. Broad geographic support for the president is a good thing.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 2:40 AM  

I apologize most sincerely, ace. When you use my post, @154, and yours at @157, I might assume so.

Anonymous Sharrukin November 05, 2016 2:40 AM  

Sorry 20 states.

Blogger Ingot9455 November 05, 2016 2:41 AM  

@154 Because if general population decided the election, the top 8-10 cities in the US would determine the presidency. That would be the only place anyone had to campaign, and buy advertisement, and presidential elections would just become games of how to pander to/promise more for those densely packed cities.

Fraud becomes much easier. Now you have to steal multiple elections in multiple places (although some places are more important than others). Get fraud machines in the top 8 cities, you have a lock on the Presidency forever.

You can look this up any number of places. New York City outweighs multiple states, for example.

Blogger Cetera November 05, 2016 2:46 AM  

Harold wrote:Also to mention- the fixed 435 members of the House is unconstitutional. 14th Amendment Section 2. Each state should have it's last census population divided by the smallest states population to determine the number of representatives. Round up or down as appropriate.

That would give CA 69 electoral votes instead of 55, and unbalance things even more than they already are.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 2:53 AM  

Ingot9455 wrote:@154 Because if general population decided the election, the top 8-10 cities in the US would determine the presidency. That would be the only place anyone had to campaign, and buy advertisement, and presidential elections would just become games of how to pander to/promise more for those densely packed cities.

Fraud becomes much easier. Now you have to steal multiple elections in multiple places (although some places are more important than others). Get fraud machines in the top 8 cities, you have a lock on the Presidency forever.

You can look this up any number of places. New York City outweighs multiple states, for example.



Sigh. Who in the world told you this?

We have voter fraud all over, especially in the "Big Cities",...oh just forget it.

Blogger DEPLORABLILITY November 05, 2016 2:57 AM  

There is nothing but FEAR in these posts. Where is your faith. Fear is the root of defeat.Go and cry like little girls.

Anonymous Epimandes November 05, 2016 4:09 AM  

First of all, nothing the alt-right has is new. It is largely the statistical average of every neo-Nazi political party that has existed across the globe. I am not saying this as a slur or as a personal opinion but as an objective appraisal. On which points does the alt-right differ from the neo-Nazi movements of the seventies? Obviously, the Nazi brand is toxic, so perhaps a rebranding of the same ideas under a new, more palatable label was necessary if there was going to be any hope of success for your (not my) ideology. I think even the neo-Nazi movements accept black and Jewish support as long as there is some ideological solidarity.

An interesting polling experiment would be to present Vox's sixteen points to a large sample prison inmates (a hotbed of neo-Nazi sentiments, at least among the white ones) and see what fraction of them agree with it.

Second, these are all rumors. The Wikileaks (assuming they aren't just lies manufactured by Putin, given that it is acknowledged by all that he has a very keen interest in this election and that he is the puppetmaster behind Wikileaks) emails only show that a Clinton aide was invited to a bizarre ritual. It doesn't even say if he said "yes," for crying out loud! That's quite a lot of extrapolation coming from some very fertile imaginations here.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 4:39 AM  

Epimandes wrote:First of all, nothing the alt-right has is new.
True, it's straight-up nationalism, as practiced by every society and every culture up until the Jews identified it as their major problem in the world.

It is largely the statistical average of every neo-Nazi political party that has existed across the globe.
Bullshit. Political philosophies don't "Average". The alt-right bears only one resemblance to the NAzis,. We don't tuck our dicks between our legs and hide when you idiot racists yell "ANTI-SEMITE".

I am not saying this as a slur or as a personal opinion but as an objective appraisal.
Lie.

On which points does the alt-right differ from the neo-Nazi movements of the seventies?
The alt-Right does not believe in White supremacy. The alt-Right is anti-Imperialist.

Beyond that, you an ask the fucking neo-Nazis.They hate us even more than you do, you worthless wanker.

An even more interesting, and far more useful, experiment was to expose the 26 points to useless wankers like you. Watching idiots like you lose their minds when exposed to perfectly normal nationalism was quite the show.

So, do you think we must secure the survival of our race and a future for White children?

Anonymous Epimandes November 05, 2016 4:49 AM  

So, do you think we must secure the survival of our race

I don't believe that race is meaningful biologically speaking. It may be meaningful socially speaking, but I am not so foolish as to confuse our own socially constructed prejudices with biology.

and a future for White children?

I do believe there should be a future for white children.

Blogger wreckage November 05, 2016 4:54 AM  

(assuming they aren't just lies manufactured by Putin, given that it is acknowledged by all that he has a very keen interest in this election and that he is the puppetmaster behind Wikileaks)

Ah, no. No, the emails are definitely not manufactured by Russia, nor were they acquired by Russian hackers.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 4:55 AM  

Epimandes wrote:Second, these are all rumors.
No, the Podesta emails are verified.
The Wikileaks (assuming they aren't just lies manufactured by Putin, given that it is acknowledged by all that he has a very keen interest in this election and that he is the puppetmaster behind Wikileaks)...

Pretty good density of lies there. I count 4. Putin is not the puppet master of Wikileaks, Putin had nothing to do with the Podesta emails. This is not agreed on by "all", or even "most" or even "a plurality of people who are Clinton partisans and people who could be fired for disagreeing". The actual security experts are unanimous that they are genuine. And, again, we do know there are in fact genuine.
BTW, these are deliberate and knowing lies created by the Clinton campaign to try to dupe stupid people into ignoring them, and to give their partisan hacks an excuse when defending Clinton.
The source of the Podesta emails is a very simple hack of his email account, that could have been executed by any 9-year-old. His password was P@ssw0rd, for God's sake.
As it is, we have the testimony of the people bringing it out that the source of the leaks is within the US government.

...emails only show that a Clinton aide was invited to a bizarre ritual. It doesn't even say if he said "yes," for crying out loud! That's quite a lot of extrapolation coming from some very fertile imaginations here.
Whether he went is actually beside the point. This si the kind of thing that these people do. That is the material fact.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 4:57 AM  

Epimandes wrote:I don't believe that race is meaningful biologically speaking. It may be meaningful socially speaking, but I am not so foolish as to confuse our own socially constructed prejudices with biology.
If there is no such thing as race (Which by the way is one of the most biologically illiterate ideas to gain currency since Lysenko), what's wrong with genocide?

Anonymous Epimandes November 05, 2016 5:00 AM  

If there is no such thing as race (Which by the way is one of the most biologically illiterate ideas to gain currency since Lysenko), what's wrong with genocide?

Read my comment carefully. I never said that race didn't exist. I said that race wasn't meaningful in a biological sense. Race is still meaningful in a social sense, just as poverty is, so genocide would be wrong for the same reason that killing everyone below the poverty line would be wrong.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 5:08 AM  

Epimandes wrote:I never said that race didn't exist. I said that race wasn't meaningful in a biological sense.
Strange, i was just watching an archaeological show in which an osteo-archaeologist was able to identify a bone as a Roman within 30 seconds of pulling it out of the ground in England.
Whether you "believe" not the religious connotation) in race is really not the issue. Race is real, it's obvious, it's genetic and biological, and only SJW idiots like you deny it's biological basis.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 5:13 AM  

LOL. Turds are brown, too.

I wonder why?

Almost everything you eat has a color. But.

The turds are brown.

Go figure.

Anonymous Epimandes November 05, 2016 5:20 AM  

Strange, i was just watching an archaeological show in which an osteo-archaeologist was able to identify a bone as a Roman within 30 seconds of pulling it out of the ground in England.

There are biological correlates with how we define race, but race (unlike species) is not defined in any biological sense.

and only SJW idiots like you deny it's biological basis.

Race is such a modern way of partitioning humans. The ancient Romans knew that an Ethiopian looked different from a Hellene, but they did not think that this had anything to do with biology or, even worse, that they Ethiopian was a different subspecies of human. It does, however, give credence to the Marxist idea that as captialism progresses the owners of the means of production will find ways to partition the proletariat to prevent the progress of history, and race is simply one of those tools which is employed.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 5:22 AM  

So, you are a Marxist as well. That hardly surprises.

So if race is not biological, what is it?
Do you similarly disbelieve in breeds of dogs and livestock?

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 5:28 AM  

That smells like plagiarizing to me. In fact, I KNOW it is.

Quit acting like you're smart.

Blogger wreckage November 05, 2016 5:28 AM  

"The ancient Romans knew that an Ethiopian looked different from a Hellene, but they did not think that this had anything to do with biology or, even worse, that they Ethiopian was a different subspecies of human."

You're twisting your argument. Of course they didn't assign it to biology as we understand it, the concept didn't exist. They DID however, like all peoples, believe that various people groups were foolish or wise, trustworthy on fickle, brave or cowardly, tall or short. They made much of the racial characteristics of the German tribes they defeated; very tall, muscular, a true display of ROMAN SUPERIORITY to defeat such a mighty race of men.

I am sympathetic to the idea that race is not significant biologically, but your argument that racial, tribal or national characteristics are a new invention is false, indeed, historically illiterate.

To those here that believe in genetic destiny your argument will be just another proof that all who oppose them do so with lies or ignorance.

Anonymous Epimandes November 05, 2016 5:30 AM  

So, you are a Marxist as well. That hardly surprises.

I think that the idea of history progressing to an final state and that economics is the driving force of historical progress was a very interesting and deep thesis. However, I definitely think that many aspects of his thesis are fatally flawed and irreconcilable with modern microeconomics. So no, I am not a Marxist, but I am one of the few people who actually understood what he was getting at.

So if race is not biological, what is it?

Social, like class or citizenship.

Do you similarly disbelieve in breeds of dogs and livestock?

Breeds are usually kept track of because domesticated animals are bred with a specific purpose in mind. If it weren't for the existence of these purposes, nobody would generate a unique classification.

Blogger The Observer November 05, 2016 5:36 AM  

People just can't stop themselves from touching the poop.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 5:38 AM  

I hate peeps who won't answer a direct question.

YES. Know. Or. I Don't Know.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 5:39 AM  

Epimandes wrote:was a very interesting and deep thesis. However, I definitely think that many aspects of his thesis are fatally flawed and irreconcilable with modern microeconomics. So no, I am not a Marxist, but I am one of the few people who actually understood what he was getting at.
Oh bullshit. You no smarter than the average person on this forum. So far your entire "argument" consists of "I'm too sophisticated to believe the evidence of history and even my own eyes."

So two Asians can give birth to a Black? That a Black born in a rice paddy will ace the SAT? That is essentially what you are claiming. It's ludicrous. It is literally contrary to all human experience.

Anonymous Clay November 05, 2016 5:48 AM  

Well, Snidely, I told you Nell was a ventuours girl


And that Mr. Empindaes was a plagiarist.

Blogger wreckage November 05, 2016 5:54 AM  

Marx made some good observations, but totally bolloxed the entire notion of what history is. He turned the chart-gazer's fallacy (two points, straight line, BEHOLD THE FUTURE) into not a mere dabbler's error for rookies, but a fucking Godzilla of cognitive idiocy that went on to wreck entire disciplines...

... because his thesis was interesting, so smart people didn't notice that he'd completely flunked the initial cognitive phases of the theory.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl November 05, 2016 8:00 AM  

wreckage wrote:Marx made some good observations, but totally bolloxed the entire notion of what history is. He turned the chart-gazer's fallacy (two points, straight line, BEHOLD THE FUTURE) into not a mere dabbler's error for rookies, but a fucking Godzilla of cognitive idiocy that went on to wreck entire disciplines...

... because his thesis was interesting, so smart people didn't notice that he'd completely flunked the initial cognitive phases of the theory.


Exactly this. Marx had his thesis in hand and cherry-picked the evidence to prove it, logical fallacies included.

A lot of "intellectuals" and academics glom on to Marxism for two large reasons (though there are many minor reasons):

1. Marx wanted academics/intellectuals to be the overlords of society (the "vanguard")
2. Argumentative subjectivity - if you "feel" it's right, it's right, just find something to support it. If anyone disagrees, they've been brainwashed by CAPITALISM

Another reason a lot of people attach to Marxism - it explains their personal faults and failures on a big abstraction - CAPITALISM!!

Look at the SJW - their whole argument is Marxist/Marxian: CAPITALISM became, by definition White, Western, Heteronormative "imperialism".

Blogger bob kek mando ( I are Spartacus ... and you can too! C'mon, give it a try, these crosses are way more comfy than they look ) November 05, 2016 11:19 AM  

188. Epimandes November 05, 2016 5:30 AM
I think that the idea of history progressing to an final state and that economics is the driving force of historical progress was a very interesting and deep thesis.
...
but I am one of the few people who actually understood what he was getting at.



ha hee.

arrogance and stupidity.

it's amusing how often they go together.

IF the rational materialist / evolutionist theory of the universe is correct
THEN the only 'final state' is total Entropy.

until all the Energy degenerates to Mass, things will continue to 'change' and there is no intermediary 'End State'.


therefore, Marx is an idiot, based on the precepts of his own materialist conceptualization of the universe.


188. Epimandes November 05, 2016 5:30 AM
Social, like class or citizenship.



Blond hair and blue eyes.

you don't get them from your parents, they are totally social constructs, homes.

and niggers have nappy hair because ... they hate their children and socialize them to grow it that way?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 05, 2016 2:43 PM  

Where, o where, did our Secret Genius go?

Anonymous That Would Be Telling November 05, 2016 3:09 PM  

@179 Snidely Whiplash:

The source of the Podesta emails is a very simple hack of his email account, that could have been executed by any 9-year-old. His password was P@ssw0rd, for God's sake.

Oh, it's much worse than that. Sure, he had a weak password, but that doesn't matter so much when using a monitored service like GMail which will lock an account after not very many failed login attempts.

He received an email ostensibly from Google telling him it was imperative he immediately change his password, and he actually suspected it was not legit (probably because it pretty clearly wasn't, even to his untutored eyes). But when he asked the Clinton machine IT people they told him it was legit, serious, and that he should immediately follow the instructions.

To quote Denninger on the general state of Clinton machine InfoSec(urity):

Why did all this happen? It happened because people who understand how to design, implement and operate a reasonably secure communication system are also intelligent enough to realize that if they aid and abet a potentially criminal enterprise they will go to prison! You therefore simply don't get the "best and brightest" or even the minimally competent people to do such a job, and those you do get will sit back and let one of the principals scream at them about security restrictions being "too much" and drop shields in response instead of replying with "That's insecure, I won't do it, and if you don't quit your hollering at me and shut your damned yap right now I quit!"

I'd add that it's pretty clear Hillary doesn't give a damn about such things. It wasn't poor InfoSec that prompted her to quote a figure for the time it takes between the President giving the order and the missiles start launching.

Anonymous Tarzan, Lord Of The Apes November 05, 2016 6:57 PM  

Uh huh. Afro hair. Helps keep then bugs away.

Got chairs in the Africa Revival? No.

Perhaps the reason they run so fast, is because their asses were not able to do so.

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