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Friday, November 11, 2016

Two paths for the Alt-Right

Wired predicts in-fighting and failure for the Alt-Right:
The movement may soon find itself with a messaging problem. “Their whole attraction is they’re fighting to regain power,” says Gerstenfeld. “I don’t think they’ll do a good job spreading that message when they are in power and there’s nothing to fight against.” Gerstenfeld points out that the extremist militia groups that were common during Bill Clinton’s presidency all but disappeared during the George Bush years that followed. With Trump in the White House, it’ll be hard for the alt-right to argue that the American white male is disenfranchised. “People will stop caring,” Gerstenfeld says.

And though Taylor and David Duke and Breitbart’s Milo Yiannopoulos are exuberant about President Trump now, they might not always feel that way. “There’s a gaping hole between most Americans and the alt-right. He’s going to have to backtrack to govern all of us,” Painter says. “Is that going to inspire a Bundy brothers insurgency against him? I wouldn’t be surprised.” The Trump administration is not the early days of an alt-right America. It’s the beginning of a fringe group’s fall.
This indicates an almost complete failure to even begin to grasp what the Alt-Right is, what it seeks to accomplish, or why it exists in the first place. Do they really believe that the Ascension of the God-Emperor to the Cherry Blossom Throne is going to instantly reverse the current demographic trends across the West? I certainly wish we could believe that, but a single national election is but a single small step in the process.

Richard Spencer's article, We the Vanguard Now, would appear to be considerably more relevant to life as we observe it on this particular planet at this particular point in time.
The Alt Right is deeply connected to Trumpian populism in intellectual, spiritual, and visceral ways—for, as everyone agrees, Trump’s victory was, at its root, a victory of identity politics. And it was a campaign that ultimately dispensed with “conservatism” as we knew it. Because of this fact, Trump was opposed by most all components of the mainstream Right—from the neocons to establishment operatives to goofballs like Glenn Beck. And these forces opposed him with such vehemence that they simply cannot share in his victory.

In this way, the Alt Right, far more plausibly than the “conservative movement,” can lay claim to being the new Trumpian vanguard.

Before Trump, the Alt Right could be criticized for being a “head without a body”; it was engaged in meta-political and scientific discussion, but lacked a real connection with practical politics and the hopes and dreams of average Americans. In turn, Trump’s populism—with its half-baked policy ideas and sketchy vision of the future—could be criticized as a “body without a head.”

Now we are the whole man. The Alt Right and Trumpian populism are now aligned much in the way the Left is aligned with Democratic politicians like Obama and Hillary. The American Right always lacked a true vanguard. In the form of “conservatives,” it had only a “rearguard” or "muffle” or “hall monitor.” We—and only we—can say the things Trump can’t say . . . can criticize him in the right way . . . and can envision a new world that he can’t quite grasp.
This is why Richard is so important to the Alt-Right. He has a long-term strategic vision, the accuracy of which is capable of balancing any number of tactical missteps. While I don't share his tactical objectives - I have no interest in think tanks, journals, speaking tours, conferences, or the various institutions of Greater Academia - I support them nevertheless, just as I support the various and divergent tactical objectives of other Alt-Right allies such as Milo, Mike, Stefan, Andrew, Greg, and others.

What the Left does not understand, indeed, what it may be incapable of understanding, is that most of us in the Alt-Right are not power-hungry or fame whores. (I said most, not all.) Most of us have been driven to the point of action, driven to the point of standing up and speaking out publicly, by a Left that would simply not leave us alone to live in peace and freedom. We are rising up and we are speaking out because we have no other choice, because our only other option is surrender and submission to intellectual slavery.

And if, in order to be left alone to live as we see fit, we have to band together, put on our armored battlesuits, and march in the name of the God-Emperor to eradicate every remnant of SJW that survives anywhere in the world with all the fanaticism of the Spanish Inquisition unrestrained by Pope, King, or Queen, then that is precisely what we will do. We are the vanguard now. We are the God-Emperor's shock troops. We are Les Deplorables and WE. DON'T. CARE.

All they had to do was leave us alone. They wouldn't do that. So, the Alt-Right will not leave them alone.

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Blogger Zaklog the Great November 11, 2016 8:10 AM  

I understand the Ilk includes a number of amateur online detectives. Can any of them work on finding out who this woman was so we can work to make sure she is properly punished for this slanderous hoax?

http://klfy.com/2016/11/10/lafayette-pd-ul-student-made-up-story-about-attack-stolen-hijab/

Blogger residentMoron November 11, 2016 8:15 AM  

"So, the Alt-Right will not leave them alone."

When Obama ascended to the White House, did the loony left leave off their mania about racism? Hardly. If anything their insanity deepened, they grew less connected to any discernible reality, and invented unobservables (always the sign of a failing theory) such as micro-aggressions.

Does the election of Trump then signal the end of Alt-Right history?

That sort of foolishness is what I call the Political Theory of Duh.

The purpose of the Alt-Right is not to fight our enemies, but to destroy them. Plainly, for anyone watching them riot all across the land, they are not yet destroyed.

Q. E. D.

Anonymous JAMES November 11, 2016 8:15 AM  

More than anything the Alt-right needs to behave as vanguardists on the left always have.

Never compromise, always attack everyone, always double down.

The difference between the Alt-right and the radical left is that we don't have to be tedious insufferable bores while doing so.

Activism is always easier when it's fun

Blogger seeingsights November 11, 2016 8:15 AM  

From 1968 to 1988, Republicans won 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, two of them popular vote landslides. The reason for that, was the at the national level, Republicans appealed to white voters on issues related to race, such as busing, affirmative action, crime, welfare. Whites who voted for Democrats in local elections voted for Republicans in the general.

Republicans abandoned that politics at the national level after 1992. As to why, I think there are various reasons.

The point is, that Republicans implicitly had white identity politics from 1968-1988, and the Alt Right is rediscovering it.

Anonymous Gaius Vandali November 11, 2016 8:17 AM  

What then?
What if he
1. Does not prosecute Hillary
2. Does not built the wall
3. Does not deport the illegals
What then?

Blogger Cail Corishev November 11, 2016 8:18 AM  

Projection. Leftists believe this:

1. Win elections and take power.
2. ????
3. Profit!

We don't, because we don't live in a fantasy world where the right politics fix everything.

Blogger Orville November 11, 2016 8:19 AM  

Nothing left to fight for? WTF! The fight has only just begun. The warhammers must come out and pound the whole shitty edifice down so that we can rebuild it.

It's time for the children to step aside and let the men fight and build. If you don't get in the way, you won't get hurt.

Trump now has to fight the GOPe to bring them into submission. He must be ruthless, and give no quarter. I believe he will do this as I see him doing it already with the press.

Blogger psychegram November 11, 2016 8:20 AM  

Wishful thinking gets them every time. Thanks to the PC echo chamber they've constructed around themselves, they've become completely cut off from the people they claim to care so much about.

This Wired article is a case in point. In every comment section I frequent, and in /pol/, the sentiment is the same: we've won a major battle, and there's time to celebrate, but the war is far from over. If the cucks and the SJWs are going to willfully misread us so badly, all the better. Never interrupt the enemy when xe's in the process of making a mistake.

I do wonder how long they're going to continue referring to the 'Far' Right as an extremist fringe, though. We're a good sized demographic, now ... considerably less fringy than gender theorists.

Blogger 4499 November 11, 2016 8:21 AM  

"You couldn't leave well enough alone, could you, little twerp? No, you had to push it. Well, now you're gonna pay!" - Johnny Lawrence (The REAL Karate Kid)

Blogger Cail Corishev November 11, 2016 8:22 AM  

@5 What if he

Then we replace him with someone who will, after the frustration with the invasion drives middle America further into deep red. Thank you for your concern.

Blogger Orville November 11, 2016 8:25 AM  

@8 "The PC Echo Chamber"

Cernovich and others have a yuge ground floor opportunity to build a new media whose message is alt-right. The current media is completely useless and completely the enemy. The current commentariat are completely discredited.

Blogger Jim Carroll November 11, 2016 8:25 AM  

As should be obvious from some of my previous posts, I'm NOT Alt-Right. I sympathize pretty heavily with them, but I'm not.

That said, when Spencer says "Trump’s victory was, at its root, a victory of identity politics" is simply false for ALL of the people that I know that voted for Trump. *I* voted for Trump for precisely the opposite reason. Just like Milo, I'm TIRED of the identity politics.

If this is true and Trump's election become about identity politics, it will be a 4 year reign.

Anonymous Colourless Green Ideas Sleep Furiously November 11, 2016 8:26 AM  

Your "emperor" ain't ascending to any kind of throne tho
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

Anonymous Cinco November 11, 2016 8:26 AM  

@5
What then?
What if he
1. Does not prosecute Hillary
2. Does not built the wall
3. Does not deport the illegals
What then?


In a way this may be the best case scenario. If he fails to follow through on the wall and deportation, what he will be replaced with will make him look soft on immigration.

After reading the news over the past few days his first measure should be to allow California, Oregon and Washington to leave the union peacefully with no obligation of military support.

Blogger Lovekraft November 11, 2016 8:29 AM  

On a light note, someone compiled a mosaic of sjw saltiness:

http://mosaically.com/photomosaic/timeline/d1a76bb4-dfe4-4623-8a2f-4ebd0cd4ec08?page=2

Blogger Orville November 11, 2016 8:30 AM  

@12 Vox has had plenty to say about identity politics. You want to bring a knife to a gun fight (identity politics). Besides it truly is about identity whether you like it or not.

OpenID simplytimothy November 11, 2016 8:30 AM  

Because of this fact, Trump was opposed by most all components of the mainstream Right—from the neocons to establishment operatives to goofballs like Glenn Beck. And these forces opposed him with such vehemence that they simply cannot share in his victory.

They are trying. David French at NRO (per insty) asserts the GOPe won. Trent Lott is offering his services to help Trump navigate the swamp that Trump wants to drain.

If Trump is true, and I think he is, then, although he will err (as he amply demonstrated in the primaries) he will change course in pursuit of his goals.

Blogger Mighty Lou November 11, 2016 8:30 AM  

Fox News is playing that video of the man beaten in Chicago about every five minutes. Perhaps it's meant to be some sort of cathartic pacifier for anti-Trumpers.

Blogger Old Ez November 11, 2016 8:31 AM  

Which "Andrew"? Andrew Anglin? I would just absolutely gush!

Blogger Jim Carroll November 11, 2016 8:32 AM  

@16, Orville, you might be right. Probably are. But it doesn't change the fact that many, if not most, of the people that actually voted for him don't see it that way.

Blogger Salt November 11, 2016 8:34 AM  

I posted this on FB in response to a blog post at Spectator uk. FB will have to ban me first. I'll not leave voluntarily.

Pointed and rather correct. Trump's win does not settle the Culture War, it enhances it. It does not settle which war of the paradigm shall prevail. It enhances it. No reason to discuss any of that. The leftist opposition is not capable of discussion. Only emotion. Safe-spaces.

Michael Moore was correct. What happened was the biggest FU to the establishment in history. It was also a huge FU to the encroaching leftist progressive ideology in play for the last few decades. It was a giant FU to the Obama Agenda, the Neocon Right, and the Snowflakes.

As one pundit on MSNBC said, he doesn't know what the Republicans are anymore. The (R) of Reagan is gone. The (R) of the Bush years, both 41 and 43, is gone. Something has replaced it and he doesn't know, or understand, what that is.

I'll tell you what that is. It's based on three words. Point at us and shriek Misogynist, Racist, Homophobe. No, not those three words. They don't work anymore. These three words. This is what you are up against, Leftists and Neocons. Words said by Americans -

WE. DON'T. CARE.

It hasn't ended with Trump. It's just beginning.

Anonymous Colourless Green Ideas Sleep Furiously November 11, 2016 8:36 AM  

Electors are yet to vote, kiddos. This is far from over, and you are making fools out of yourselves by having discussion such as this one.

Blogger Ceasar November 11, 2016 8:36 AM  

They are assuming two things about the alt right:
1 - The alt right has short memory (they wish)
2 - Alt right has a lack of understanding what is at stake (again, they wish)

Anonymous Cadwallander J November 11, 2016 8:38 AM  

The left - poor frightened little rabbits - will be undergoing the dawning realization that the tactics they've used for years are finally being turned against them. "Just this one brick, surely it's not a big deal?"

Nothing's over. We've only just started. We understand the incrementalism that has worked so well for the SJWs, shitlibs and progs. But we'll be better at it. Trump is just the first small increment is tearing down their ugly Tower of Babel. One. Brick. At a time.

Blogger Kirk Forlatt November 11, 2016 8:38 AM  

That would be a great slogan/meme for the Alt-Right: "We will never leave you alone."

Blogger alcade November 11, 2016 8:40 AM  

After your troll income dries up, there will be plenty of job opportunities for brick layers on the southern border.

Anonymous Cadwallander J November 11, 2016 8:41 AM  

Electors are yet to vote, kiddos.

Good God, doesn't Soros have anything better to do with his money? GTFO of here loser, or we'll call your mom to cut off your basement internet connection.

Blogger Cecil Henry November 11, 2016 8:43 AM  


Its NOT about Trump. The sooner the MSM realize this the better.

The MSM everywhere continue their distortion of Trump, their distortion of the issues. They continue to insist on asking the wrong questions to avoid addressing the real ones. And on its goes.

Blogger Zaklog the Great November 11, 2016 8:45 AM  

@13 Well, yes, if your goal is to provoke a civil war with millions of Americans dead, that sounds like a fantastic idea.

Anonymous lurker November 11, 2016 8:46 AM  

One thing is for sure the Alt-Right needs to be on permanent offensive from here on out, something "CONservatives" never did.

Blogger lowercaseb November 11, 2016 8:47 AM  

It's funny. It's more than a catchphrase, or a watchword. I don't care.

Before, the mobs personally offended me. They were threatening my home town.

Now I see that they are going to rise no matter what we do or say...if they want to burn down their ghettos, useless government buildings and converged dotcom businesses that fought on their side, go for it.

I don't care.

OpenID basementhomebrewer November 11, 2016 8:47 AM  

What is the third law of SJWs?

SJWs are activists for activism's sake. It is their purpose in life. That is why when the GLB movement won gay marriage they had to adopt the mentally ill as a new cause. There were many articles after the Supreme Court case about how all the fun was taken out of being gay. It's because they don't really like being gay the liked being agitators.

We are the opposite. We don't like being agitators but take it up reluctantly to achieve the restoration of civilization. We will be happy when our final victory actually comes not restless.

Anonymous JAMES November 11, 2016 8:47 AM  

Smash and ridicule him.

Make him wish he'd never been born.

Blogger Lee Katt November 11, 2016 8:49 AM  

"All they had to do was leave us alone. They wouldn't do that."

That's it, in a nutshell.

Blogger VD November 11, 2016 8:51 AM  

That said, when Spencer says "Trump’s victory was, at its root, a victory of identity politics" is simply false for ALL of the people that I know that voted for Trump. *I* voted for Trump for precisely the opposite reason. Just like Milo, I'm TIRED of the identity politics.

You don't understand, Jim. Identity politics are all there is now. I suspect you're confusing white identity politics for non-identity politics.

They aren't going to go away because they can't. They are an inevitable consequence of diversity reaching statistically significant proportions.

Anonymous Colourless Green Ideas Sleep Furiously November 11, 2016 8:51 AM  

Cadwallander J wrote:Electors are yet to vote, kiddos.

Good God, doesn't Soros have anything better to do with his money? GTFO of here loser, or we'll call your mom to cut off your basement internet connection.


Exercise your skills mate, as this is what you'll be doing during the next four years.
(which why both article in the OP are wrong to begin with, alt-right will stay what it was, in the position in which it was)

Blogger pyrrhus November 11, 2016 8:51 AM  

I'm a little concerned by some of the top nominees for the cabinet, including Giuliani, who might be inclined to diss the Alt-right and weaken Trump's impetus...The Alt-right needs to stay on top of things and take no prisoners.

Blogger JACIII November 11, 2016 8:52 AM  

Jim Carroll wrote:As should be obvious from some of my previous posts, I'm NOT Alt-Right. I sympathize pretty heavily with them, but I'm not.

That said, when Spencer says "Trump’s victory was, at its root, a victory of identity politics" is simply false for ALL of the people that I know that voted for Trump. *I* voted for Trump for precisely the opposite reason. Just like Milo, I'm TIRED of the identity politics.

If this is true and Trump's election become about identity politics, it will be a 4 year reign.


Say what you want. You voted for Trump in self defense. Folks are TIRED of identity politics because their identity is always the one under attack. They still have not learned to fight back. They will. This is the first step. The left will show them there is no peaceful intent toward them without their capitulation. Your skin is your uniform and it's not your decision to wear it.

Blogger Dirtnapninja November 11, 2016 8:53 AM  

The alt-right shouldn't be about direct political power. Our enemies control the institutions and the terms of respectability. Direct political confrontations means co-option and defeat.

Mr. Trump isnt alt right. But he is influenced by those ideals..and that is how we will change things.

The goal is the change the culture. Change the culture, and the politics will follow. Then the Alt-right will become the mainstream and we wont need an alt-right.

Blogger VD November 11, 2016 8:53 AM  

I'm a little concerned by some of the top nominees for the cabinet, including Giuliani, who might be inclined to diss the Alt-right and weaken Trump's impetus.

Relax. Trump is only the first step. As long as he a) avoids war with Russia and b) builds the wall, we're satisfied.

Maybe not happy, but it's enough for starters.

He's not going to appoint a perfect cabinet. There will be failures and missteps. Don't fret about them, accept that they are going to happen.

And in the meantime, stay on the permanent offensive.

Blogger lowercaseb November 11, 2016 8:54 AM  

@13 You folks really will set fire to the basement to try to get in to the attic, won't you.

Blogger JACIII November 11, 2016 8:55 AM  

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Blogger VD November 11, 2016 8:55 AM  

The alt-right shouldn't be about direct political power.

Exactly. We are not the columns. We are the skirmishers. We are not the occupying force, we are the special forces. We are not 3GW, we are 4GW. As Richard says, we are the vanguard.

Blogger pyrrhus November 11, 2016 8:56 AM  

Heh! Trump kicks press off his plane....http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/journalists-president-elect-donald-trump-press-freedom-blocked-media-a7410806.html

Blogger JACIII November 11, 2016 8:57 AM  

I expect to see a lot of turnover in his cabinet. He will reward those who he perceives helped him, but they will have to perform.

"You're Fired"

Anonymous Anonymous November 11, 2016 9:00 AM  

After World War II we gave (((these people))) every benefit of the doubt. To our horror, we now know they wanted to destroy us and our civilization while re-writing history to suit themselves. They wanted to set inferior peoples and cultures over us and our loved ones. The fight is now out in the open. We hate them. And hate is the great motivator.

Blogger lowercaseb November 11, 2016 9:01 AM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:We are the opposite. We don't like being agitators but take it up reluctantly to achieve the restoration of civilization. We will be happy when our final victory actually comes not restless.

This. You finally managed to capture on paper what has been rolling around in my head for the last couple of days.

Looks like I can't take off my uniform and melt back into civilian life, because I can't rip off my white skin and survive.

You want a racist? Fine...a racist you will have.

Anonymous VFM #1305 November 11, 2016 9:01 AM  

Damn, what a time to be a reader of this blog. The last posts have been nothing short of electrifying.

Blogger pyrrhus November 11, 2016 9:01 AM  

In case anyone still has illusions about leftist violence (unlikely)--11 year old attacked and injured for voting Trump in mock election....http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55835

Anonymous JAMES November 11, 2016 9:02 AM  

Trump is indeed the first step.

He is not the answer, but after him so much more is possible.

He will give U.S whites 8 years to regroup before the next Prez (of whatever party) smashes them into minority status.

It may just be enough. U.S whites, working class whites in particular are tougher than they look.

A new game is beginning.

Anonymous JAG November 11, 2016 9:03 AM  

What the Left does not understand, indeed, what it may be incapable of understanding, is that most of us in the Alt-Right are not power-hungry or fame whores. (I said most, not all.) Most of us have been driven to the point of action, driven to the point of standing up and speaking out publicly, by a Left that would simply not leave us alone to live in peace and freedom. We are rising up and we are speaking out because we have no other choice, because our only other option is surrender and submission to intellectual slavery.

And if, in order to be left alone to live as we see fit, we have to band together, put on our armored battlesuits, and march in the name of the God-Emperor to eradicate every remnant of SJW that survives anywhere in the world with all the fanaticism of the Spanish Inquisition unrestrained by Pope, King, or Queen, then that is precisely what we will do. We are the vanguard now. We are the God-Emperor's shock troops. We are Les Deplorables and WE. DON'T. CARE.

All they had to do was leave us alone. They wouldn't do that. So, the Alt-Right will not leave them alone.


These three paragraphs had me pump my fist. Sums it up perfectly. If I could converge a leftist award I would give it to you.

Blogger Salt November 11, 2016 9:03 AM  

JACIII wrote:I expect to see a lot of turnover in his cabinet. He will reward those who he perceives helped him, but they will have to perform.

"You're Fired"

If the Establishment thinks it can manage Trump, they are in for a rude surprise.

Blogger VD November 11, 2016 9:04 AM  

You're banned and spammed, Colourless Green Ideas Sleep Furiously.

Blogger Jim Carroll November 11, 2016 9:06 AM  

@35 VD wrote: "I suspect you're confusing white identity politics for non-identity politics."

I'm sure you're right. I agreed with what you had to say after quoting Spencer. I just want the freedom to live my life and I don't begrudge that freedom to anyone else.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii November 11, 2016 9:07 AM  

When you take the costume off (Army, Navy, USMC, USAF, IBM Basic Blue, etc.) then and ONLY then are you in Uniform.

Blogger Ransom Smith November 11, 2016 9:11 AM  

If feel like the Alt-Right (I'm more Alt-West personally) needs to have that defenders of Helms Deep approach.

By which I mean "Show them no mercy. For you shall receive none."

Blogger Iron Spartan November 11, 2016 9:12 AM  

Nobody on our side thinks this is the end. Nobody on our side thinks the progressives will crawl under a bush to die. No one on our side thinks we have avoided the tribulations to come.

If the left thinks that Trump or us will be sated with his win, it will make them lazy and easier to push off the board completely.

Blogger Nick S November 11, 2016 9:13 AM  

JACIII wrote:I expect to see a lot of turnover in his cabinet. He will reward those who he perceives helped him, but they will have to perform.

"You're Fired"

You can apply if you'ld like.

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 11, 2016 9:14 AM  

I still maintain that "We. Don't. Care." needs to be #1 in the 16 points for this very reason. I've about had it with a number of people I know who are of the leftist slant who insist that everything's going to hell in a handbasket because of one person that won a contest (in essence).

News flash: the only real "ism" that got its ass handed to itself on Tuesday was that of "elitism". This idea that most of the regressives here pride themselves on being the smartest, most knowledgeable person in the room, based on just reading a limited cadre of writings and holding debates with only like minded folks, when you get right down to it, appears to be pretty fucking stupid in practice. I may consider myself a smart person, but I don't crave the approval of others to justify my "feelings". I'd rather put my knowledge to use and earn a paycheck, because that's infinitely more productive than sitting in an office in some hoity toity Ivy League shithole because I had a one night stand with the philosophy department dean's wife.

Trump got elected. So what? At least he's willing to interact with the people that got him there. And if he doesn't deliver? He knows damn well his ass is over the rail and we move on to the next person willing to put his or her ass on the line for us. If you want to represent us, then you need to understand that we're ALREADY holding you accountable from the second you offer your services, not when you actually land the job. You know, like how most of the REAL world works.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 11, 2016 9:14 AM  

Reading an article over at zerohedge The Donald really knows how to troll the Left/Cuck alliance. Then there are the internet spergs fussing over minute details.

The Donald needs help not the internet fapping of egotistical spergs and their self centered wonderfulness.

Blogger Joe A. November 11, 2016 9:15 AM  

To anyone that has read Robert Spencer's books, what one book would you recommend to read from him first?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 11, 2016 9:18 AM  

One habit of the right that needs a permanent dirt nap is holding out hope for a Smart Badge from a leftist. Even the great Richard Spencer played that game at least till a couple of years ago.

Anonymous Darwin is a Harsh Mistress November 11, 2016 9:20 AM  

"I didn't kill just one Husnock, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Husnock, everywhere."

So let it be written so let it be done. Without the regret though. Regret is such a bummer.

Anonymous Doc Sithicus November 11, 2016 9:21 AM  

To the leftist I say: You are witnessing
the birth of The Holy Order of the Emperor's Inquisition and we will come for you. There
is no innocence only degrees of guilt.

Blogger pyrrhus November 11, 2016 9:24 AM  

"To the Victor belong the spoils." The hell with "reaching out" and accommodation of those who didn't support you.

Blogger tz November 11, 2016 9:27 AM  

@5 as I said on gab, we can build the wall, crowdfunded if necessary, the militia can protect the border and the construction workers. We can then ask Trump to reimburse us from Mexican accounts.

Anonymous Eduardo November 11, 2016 9:27 AM  

I sense a lot of Hate in your Heart Vox! The Kind of hate that reminds of an ancient Story that was told between the Bandeirantes in the Conquest of Inner Brazil.

It is as Almost... After a long battle that lasted Decades, the people of the Pale Skin have retreated from their combat HQ living behind, at the doorstep of LibruLand, a nice, big'ol huge... Pepe. It had beautiful blonde hair, and a nice artificial tan, along with its huge hat that said "MAGA"

This Pepe was unwantedly confused for a Gift to all LibrulKind by the tribes of Librul, but in fact, inside, lied in wait a invasion force made of the finest Minions a Dark Lord can get. A lord so cruel, so angry, so mostly Epsylon... that was wearing a nice colorful TuTu. Why you ask? Well, some Dark Lords just don't care.

The crybullies pushed the huge man-frog into LibruLand assuming that whatever MAGA was, it was inportant to someone, probably some poor bastard in ThirdWorldVille, and that person probably wasn't a great fan of the West, so given Tolerance they needed to push this freak thing of a thing into their Lands... I mean how could they not do it bro!

That it towards the center of Town, right in front of a huge Temple for the goddess Lena Dunham. The Temple had on its front this huge thing that could only be described as a huge ... Pussy. The Statue was left there as the Gatekeepers of the local Library known as Wiki-(choose your favorite Pronoun) started to search for this thing called MAGA. They searched and searched, bur they couldn´t find the bloody thing, despite the best efforts one can get from Public Workers. As they were leaving to their socialized homes, the Statue moved its arm and grabbed the Temple by the Pussy! Taking total control of the Feminists, whom inside were having a non-lesbian Sex dungeon. The feminists were placed outside by the Fabulous Milo, a mythical creature only heard in underground circles and Black Male beds, and were fat-shamed in style, by the Dangerous Fag.

The huge Pepe, now opened, allowed the minions to flood the Town center rapidly and effectively, while also somehow making all the Feminists into straight well behaved women; or so goes the story. The Minions spread out meeting little resistance from a people who had no Second Amendment let alone any guts to face these Faceless trained Killers. The city was taken and not even the all powerful Media BathClub House had the power to muster any courage from the wimpy Citizens of LibruLand.

LibruLand burned as the overseers of Media cried and cursed the day the Pepe came to town, cursed the Dark Lord and all the Pale Skins for being racist, mysogynistic, xenophobe and especially intolerant for not calling them back. Even Lena Dunhan, the Almighty, decided to skip town and go North to find a better to live. LibruLand and all it's places of power were now in the hands of the Minions and the Dark Lord who controled them with iron fist and sword of fire

LibruLand was defeated and their menace conquered, as the Minions advanced into the suburbs of the Town, from caves, came out battered men and women from what once used to be a nice peaceful Constitutional village, these people were beyond recognition from all the pain and suffering inflicted upon them, some were so mentally destroyed they ran back to their caves and went "Cucked"

The others, who could still think straight, joined the Dark Lord and helped return LibruLand back to it´s old days, the days of Yore where a man could make a Fat Joke and go Unscathed, a time where having a Family and being a Man´s Man was something to be happy and Proud of, a time where you could grab that pussy! and together they all made America Great Again.

The Beginning

Anonymous Darwin is a Harsh Mistress November 11, 2016 9:28 AM  

^13 Colourless Green Ideas Sleep Furiously

The basement dwelling faction has no idea what blood and gore look like, let alone smell like after a day or two in the sun.

But if they keep up with these lunatic temper tantrums, they are going to learn the hard way.

Blogger pyrrhus November 11, 2016 9:28 AM  

"Nobody on our side thinks this is the end. Nobody on our side thinks the progressives will crawl under a bush to die. No one on our side thinks we have avoided the tribulations to come."

Yes. Trump has bought us important time, and maybe a lot more if he can stay on track, but Marxists never quit and it usually takes extreme measures to root them out of a society.

Anonymous #8601 November 11, 2016 9:30 AM  

Donald J. Trump will be the greatest President in the history of America.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 9:32 AM  

EXTRADITE SOROS to Russia!

Seize his assets and give them to the poor.

Blogger Lovekraft November 11, 2016 9:32 AM  

The Nine Laws is only on kindle over at Amazon. Is there a hard copy I can get?

Anonymous Flavia November 11, 2016 9:33 AM  

We can have courage now that we aren't alone.

I work at a University. Last year, We all received an email about microaggressilns from our professional victims advocate ($52,000 a year.) I wish I'd had the courage to send a message back about how sick I was of the vilification of whites and young men on campus.

Now I feel I can react stronger next time, that I have silent support

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 9:35 AM  

Cut the paid protests off at its head!

The multi-multi-billionaire Soros is the head.

The street thugs are paid goons of Soros. Soros is a TERRORIST.

Anonymous Broken Arrow November 11, 2016 9:35 AM  

href="http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/trump-calls-slain-cops-widow-to-offer-condolences/"> Trump calls slain cop’s widow to offer condolences

Did Obama ever do this? Things like this are why he won.

Blogger Salt November 11, 2016 9:35 AM  

RUSH was on a roll -

"We know that all of the protests at Trump rallies were bought and paid for primarily by George Soros, by the Democrat Party. We are still being treated by the media to a picture of America that isn't true. They want you to believe that a majority of Americans is fit to fit to be tied and angry over the election of Donald Trump and as one of which we can never unify unless Trump caves on everything in order to get peace. That's what they're trying to make everybody think, and that's what's making me nervous, when I hear so many on our side talk about now the need to cross the aisle and the need to unify.

The time to unify is after we have forced them into surrender just like we did the Japanese in World War II.

Anonymous Broken Arrow November 11, 2016 9:37 AM  

Fixed Link

Blogger Lovekraft November 11, 2016 9:38 AM  

It's easy to allow doubt and fear to creep in, but that indicates someone already lacks the resolve and fortitude.

Unless msm and gov't actively censors the messages, our movement will grow. Inevitable. And if censorship does happen (even though the early signs indicate it is happening), this will push us harder.

Those with limited memories and critical thinking forget about Rotherham, Orlando, Nice etc etc etc. They are burned into my consciousness. They get me motivated in the morning.

Same goes for Peterson inquest, U of T Farrell protests, BLM etc.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 9:39 AM  

Don't waste your time with the minions. They're a diversion. They're there to waste your energy.

Soros is the head. He is the prize. He is the multi-billionaire super-villain terrorist funding the civil unrest all around you.

Strike the head.



Blogger Serge_Tomiko November 11, 2016 9:44 AM  

I always wondered if Vox was just totally just an internet personality, and now we know it is true. Richard WILL be the downfall of the alt right. While he created it, it has morphed into something carefully crafted by the ruling class. He has been successfully goaded at every opportunity to craft something that is entirely reactionary, offensive to most everyone, but worse - entirely devoid of real political policies or objectives. Like most libertarians who have come to realize their ideology is bullshit, they become nihilists.

No, Richard is not the next Fuhrer, and anyone involved with the various American and European groups would know this.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 9:44 AM  

Soros generates the minions. He continually re-spawns them. As any good gamer knows he must be dealt with first.

He's an international terrorist. He must be arrested and extradited to Russia.

Blogger Nate November 11, 2016 9:45 AM  

It is a strategic error to under-estimate the importance of the election win. It is also a strategic error to over-estimate it.

We cannot make the same mistake the liberals made when obama won and they assumed they were now in charge.

They learned very quickly just how little power Obama actually had. It took everything he had to get Obamacare passed... and everything they gained in the last 8 years is about to be undone with just a few strokes of a pen, and a few acts of legislation.

Blogger Robert Divinity November 11, 2016 9:46 AM  

12:

That said, when Spencer says "Trump’s victory was, at its root, a victory of identity politics" is simply false for ALL of the people that I know that voted for Trump. *I* voted for Trump for precisely the opposite reason. Just like Milo, I'm TIRED of the identity politics.

Van Jones, oddly enough, had this about right. The results were a "white lash." White people, who had been punished and hounded for decades, decided to fight fire with fire. Yes, Trump did get a significant number of blacks and Hispanics but these were people probably appalled by the anti-white, anti-American hatred of the Left.

I don't know whether the Republican Party will have the capacity to exploit what it has been given, but it has an opportunity. The execrable David French wrote yesterday white identity politics especially are wrong. Hey, David, why? Fuck your guilt. Unfortunately, there are many in the GOP with this deranged worldview. If they can be excised as the cancer they are, the Republican Party can expand on what it didn't earn but was handed to them on a silver platter.

Anonymous Rather, Not November 11, 2016 9:51 AM  

Alleged pederast Harry Reid is calling Trump a sexual predator; what do SJWs always do?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 November 11, 2016 9:53 AM  

Trump's election was merely the end of the beginning.

Now comes the hard part.

Anonymous Broken Arrow November 11, 2016 9:55 AM  

@81 Absolutely, this cannot be said enough. Nothing is permanent in politics and it's not time to bask in the win (OK, maybe through the weekend), but rather to step on the gas. Keep getting out there and fighting. In 2018 vote in the Senate races, make the memes, keep going.

The left is simply in shock right now and the SJW kids are running amuck. If the adults take back control in the next couple of months the Democrats can be formidable again. We can hope the new face of the DNC is a 30 year old, unemployed, immigrant who sets fire to a news stand with a highway flare, but we can't count on it.

Blogger VD November 11, 2016 9:57 AM  

The time to unify is after we have forced them into surrender just like we did the Japanese in World War II.

I especially like the part about leaving them to live alone on their own island in the Pacific.

I always wondered if Vox was just totally just an internet personality, and now we know it is true. Richard WILL be the downfall of the alt right.

You're always wrong about economics, so it's no surprise that you know nothing about the Alt-Right. The Alt-Right does not rise and fall with Richard Spencer. It does not rise and fall with me, or with Andrew Anglin, or Greg Johnson, or anyone else. It is already bigger than any one, two, or three individuals.

Blogger JACIII November 11, 2016 9:58 AM  

Expect Trump to be doing a third thing while the democrats are just starting to bitch about the first thing he did. He knows how to drive the news cycle.

Anonymous the management November 11, 2016 10:00 AM  

JACIII wrote:

Say what you want. You voted for Trump in self defense. Folks are TIRED of identity politics because their identity is always the one under attack. They still have not learned to fight back.


Critical observation by JACIII - most nice whites haven't learned to fight back, like in the recent video where the white man in Chicago is beaten by blacks at an intersection without even token resistance, or the 11-year old in Texas beaten for voting Trump in the school mock election and all his dad can do is whine "why was it allowed to happen?"

The majority of whites are basically still in public denial about the main problem (identity politics). They know why it was allowed to happen, they know it's there, but they are still soft and don't want to think about conflict.

Blogger Wanderer November 11, 2016 10:00 AM  

"With Trump in the White House, it’ll be hard for the alt-right to argue that the American white male is disenfranchised. “People will stop caring,” Gerstenfeld says."

Did the tens of millions of unemployed white people with ruined lives suddenly gain jobs and homes the instant Trump was elected? Did the millions of pagan muslims and other third world trash disappear from Europe and America? Has the Federal Reserve and the ZOG been disbanded? The war has only started. The alt-right won't lose its purpose until every marxist and degenerate in the world is swinging from a lamppost.

Blogger Paul November 11, 2016 10:01 AM  

I'm confident the Alt-Right will be able to surf an actual Trump administration as well as they did the 2016 campaign as long as the leftist media continues to want to tie his administration to it.

If the leftist media begins to dismiss the Alt-Right to the same extent the non-Alt-Right conservative media seems to have done, the Alt-Right will need to find another way to present itself as a movement of interest within overall public perception.

Blogger Escoffier November 11, 2016 10:03 AM  

"And if, in order to be left alone to live as we see fit, we have to band together, put on our armored battlesuits, and march in the name of the God-Emperor to eradicate every remnant of SJW that survives anywhere in the world with all the fanaticism of the Spanish Inquisition unrestrained by Pope, King, or Queen, then that is precisely what we will do. We are the vanguard now. We are the God-Emperor's shock troops. We are Les Deplorables and WE. DON'T. CARE."

Just so.

Blogger Paul November 11, 2016 10:04 AM  

The alt-right won't lose its purpose until every marxist and degenerate in the world is swinging from a lamppost.

That may be, but it's the Left that consistently, almost exclusively, that takes to the streets and makes itself heard.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 11, 2016 10:04 AM  

You're always wrong about economics, so it's no surprise that you know nothing about the Alt-Right. The Alt-Right does not rise and fall with Richard Spencer. It does not rise and fall with me, or with Andrew Anglin, or Greg Johnson, or anyone else. It is already bigger than any one, two, or three individuals.

It will be interesting to see what the alt white and alt retard factions of the alt right do. Can they curb their self sabotage?

Blogger Escoffier November 11, 2016 10:06 AM  

Paul wrote:I'm confident the Alt-Right will be able to surf an actual Trump administration as well as they did the 2016 campaign as long as the leftist media continues to want to tie his administration to it.

If the leftist media begins to dismiss the Alt-Right to the same extent the non-Alt-Right conservative media seems to have done, the Alt-Right will need to find another way to present itself as a movement of interest within overall public perception.


I think the thing we have going for us is the alt right is so far off the reservation that the legacy media feel they can point and shriek us to death while normies hear our points of view, shrug, and say 'well yeah.'

So long as the legacy media remain out of touch we are good to go. Which is another way of saying I am not terribly worried. Little girls are not known for their restraint.

Anonymous JB November 11, 2016 10:06 AM  

Both articles cited by VD above have their merits and shortcomings. If the alt-right and all it stands for is to survive the wave of Trumpian mass-appeal populism then it must reclaim the ground gained by the left and its minions, not to mention that of the cucks and their fellow-travellers - in all domains - academic, social, political, business, and the media.

Or run the risk of being rendered irrelevant, sidelined and relegated to the outer darkness of mom's basement. Remember Mitterand's brilliant coup of bringing the Communists into government in France - only to better destroy them.

Strategies could include entryism into said areas; creation of think tanks, lobbying (turn the SJWs and (((globalist cabal's))) tactics against them); alternative sources of information and media; legitimising and promoting the kind of historiography, socio-biology and evolutionary psychology that aligns with the values of the "real right", imbued with true spiritual vision.

In short: the creation of future grey eminences and leaders. And that begins with self-cultivation and self-betterment. In order to make your country great, folks, begin with making yourself the best you can. Study, meditate - and lift weights.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 11, 2016 10:07 AM  

In 2018 Dems must defend a whopping 10 senate seats in states won by Trump

WV +42
ND +36
MT +22
MO +19
IN +19
OH +8
FL +1
PA +1
WI +1
MI <1

Blogger Cail Corishev November 11, 2016 10:08 AM  

I see two main reasons the left doesn't get us at all: projection and no sense of humor. When they elected Obama and painted pictures of Obama Jesus, they meant it. For most of them, that wasn't self-deprecating humor to make the election more fun; they really believed in him as some kind of racial healer on their Path of Progress.

So they assume we see Trump the same way, and they hope that as soon as he's proven to be mortal, we'll abandon him.

That's why we keep getting dumb questions like, "What if he doesn't do everything you want, huh? What about then? Did you think about that?"

The GOPe/cucks, also having no sense of humor, see us the same way; so they too assume that if they slow down the Train enough, we'll get off.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 11, 2016 10:09 AM  

Strategies could include entryism into said areas; creation of think tanks, lobbying (turn the SJWs and (((globalist cabal's))) tactics against them); alternative sources of information and media; legitimising and promoting the kind of historiography, socio-biology and evolutionary psychology that aligns with the values of the "real right", imbued with true spiritual vision.

To me that looks too much like "fighting the last war."

Blogger Paul November 11, 2016 10:09 AM  

Just remember the best way to emasculate an entire population is to provide them with a private, sequestered space where they can do whatever they want.

Blogger EscapeVelocity November 11, 2016 10:11 AM  

Nationalism is bigger than Trump. The Alt Right are the vanguard and the intellectuals giving shape and defense of the movement's advance and existence.

But soon we shall be known as the New Right, not the Alt Right.

Blogger Unknown November 11, 2016 10:13 AM  

After one of his victories, the great samurai general Tokugawa Ieyasu was seen by his men sitting on his camp stool, thoughtfully twisting the cords of his helmet tighter under his chin. When his commanders asked him what he was doing, he responded, creating a Japanese proverb,

"After a victory, tighten your helmet straps."

Take a breather this weekend -- and then get thee back to memeing, writing, blogging, organizing anything you can. The enemy line is broken but we have years more fighting before they're routed. We can't give them time to rally. Press on -- attack, attack, attack!

Anonymous Walter Oleg November 11, 2016 10:14 AM  

My thoughts on what the Alt-Right should do.

https://watchfulness.wordpress.com/2016/05/07/on-the-alternative-right-and-what-it-should-do/

Blogger Cail Corishev November 11, 2016 10:16 AM  

If the Establishment thinks it can manage Trump, they are in for a rude surprise.

For a man who has led as public a life as Donald Trump, it's amazing how poorly so many people understand the man, isn't it?

The establishment still has a great deal of power; he was elected president, not emperor. He will have to work with them, use them to the best of his abilities, and compromise at times. But if anyone thinks Mitch McConnell is going to hoodwink Donald Trump into trusting him or doing anything Trump doesn't want to do.... I'd just say that person hasn't been paying attention at all.

Blogger EscapeVelocity November 11, 2016 10:16 AM  

2018 will see a 60 seat super-majority for the GOP in the Senate. Need massive action on rolling back Federal Agencies and the deep state bureaucracy.

Blogger Wanderer November 11, 2016 10:16 AM  

Paul wrote:That may be, but it's the Left that consistently, almost exclusively, that takes to the streets and makes itself heard.

Chimping out like retards and burning down your community accomplishes less than nothing. Also, it's especially easy to riot in the street when George Soros is paying you $500 a day to do so.

Blogger EscapeVelocity November 11, 2016 10:20 AM  

Trump isnt the be all and end all of Nationalism. He is an important stepping stone on the path. He doesnt have to be perfect.

I cant wait till the Front National and the AfD wins next year in France & Germany. Then the Globalists will be shattered.

Anonymous MIG November 11, 2016 10:22 AM  

Here is a link to a surprisingly civilized discussion of the election on a New Age board dedicated to the "Law of Attraction" (you create your own reality). The majority of the participants are pro-Clinton, I think. But it's interesting how calm and productive the discussion is. I understand that people commenting here are probably contemptuous of New Agers, but the reason I am posting this link is that some of the insights about the vectors of energy (read: historical forces) are very astute and very useful to take on board.

Anonymous MIG November 11, 2016 10:24 AM  

@107

Ah, the link:
http://www.abeforum.com/showthread.php?43508-Election-results-an-example-of

Blogger tz November 11, 2016 10:25 AM  

@82 most don't identify as white as such, no more than straights identify as such. A peaceful Christendom - that happened to be white - was invaded by trolls and thugs, and the nice white cops weren't stopping them so we had a collective "ENOUGH!" and brought in the army to clean things up.

"White", or Caucasian is not a plan or policy, but most have the same western culture. We want Leave it to Beaver, Ozzie and Harriet, back, not a white version of a modern dysfunctional extended family sitcom.

Oh, whites just happen to have the least dysfunctional culture today, and it will be the quickest to heal.

The only thing left undermining us is the divorce and family courts. Gay marriage, how about a federal covenant marriage that would require felony battery, adultery, or abandonment to break with severe penalties for the one who breaks it. The wife could still abandon at any time, but would lose visitation, and have to pay alimony and child support.

Anonymous Takin' a Look November 11, 2016 10:26 AM  

@Paul

Marching in the streets protesting is what Leftists do, it's old, tired and so last century.

The Alt-Right is modern. Cyber warfare, doxxing, endless mocking and jeering on social media and comment sections. Why expose ourselves to unnecessary physical risk? Let the stupid Soros AstroTurf Left do that. Plus, it makes us look _sane_ and when a supposed right-wing terrorist act does happen, it is immediately picked apart and often shown to be a false flag or a psychotic whacko in _just hours_. This isn't 1984 anymore, we have _millions_ of folks online networking and memeing and sharing info at a rate that can't be controlled. Even attempting to subtly direct it is being exposed and rebuffed. All they have left is pull the net plug and then....Game.Over. no more social engineering fun for the psychopaths and a VERY real possibility of enraged people hunting them down and using their bare teeth to eat them alive.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 11, 2016 10:32 AM  

Despite the bad language, I let my 16 year old son watch a Milo video this morning, the one where he is in media row at Trump's victory party mocking the press.

I am intent on raising responsible, respectable, God-fearing, productive sons... who are also alt-right "shitlords" when it comes to politics and culture.

Blogger Paul November 11, 2016 10:32 AM  

Chimping out like retards and burning down your community accomplishes less than nothing. Also, it's especially easy to riot in the street when George Soros is paying you $500 a day to do so.

I don't think anything yet compels the Alt-Right to behave like Leftists, only to be noticed to at least the same extent.

Blogger Silly But True November 11, 2016 10:33 AM  

Just in time for the alt-right bloodletting, the great longtime allies such as N.K. Jemisin step up to the plate to save it from itself with words of concern and advice:
https://twitter.com/nkjemisin/status/797086146014625792

Silly but True

Blogger Paul November 11, 2016 10:34 AM  

@110

Yes, I already pointed out the same thing.

Blogger szopen November 11, 2016 10:35 AM  

In the meantime: Independence March organized by nationalist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mabkY02IFGE

I have no newer video (yet), but this year anti-nationalist decided to organize their own march, to "get back national symbols from fascists". For decades those symbols lied in the dirt and they were pissing on them. So they should crawl back to their holes and let nationalist march.

Blogger wreckage November 11, 2016 10:37 AM  

The alt-right isn't a group, it's a body of tactical knowledge.

It cannot be made to disappear.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 11, 2016 10:39 AM  

OT: The folks at AoSHQ have come up with a "Dream Cabinet" for the Trump administration.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=366799

Blogger Mountain Man November 11, 2016 10:39 AM  

@70 & &73

Exactly.. Spare no more mercy. It would bring me great gladness to see, in my lifetime, that disgusting slug left destitute, without power and behind bars

Blogger wreckage November 11, 2016 10:42 AM  

@107 the new-agers do not immerse themselves in, aspire to, and rigidly discipline their cognitive processes for, learned helplessness, external locus of control, and fear.

They are, at an emotional and cognitive level, substantially higher functioning, and vastly better disciplined and orderly thinkers than the general Left.

They are goal-oriented and encourage and teach emotional regulation.

I am not a New Ager. I am just pointing out that the new-wave leftism is profoundly damaging to all emotional and cognitive processes.

Anonymous FP November 11, 2016 10:42 AM  

@97

Cail, I agree. Look at the Hope and Change stuff, the Obama songs by school children. They would make fun of kids at a summer camp praying for Dubya but then get all butt hurt over jokes about school kids singing "MMM mmm mmm barack hussein obama". Limbaugh did a spoof of it with his name being sung by kids, the left freaked out, some even after they knew it was satire. The God-Emperor and Pepe stuff is the same way.

As for the battles ahead:

He who stands with me shall be my brother

Hatred is the emperor's greatest gift to humanity.

Blogger Mountain Man November 11, 2016 10:44 AM  

@81

Valid insight. This point needs to be kept at the forefront. This is a very long haul war that will not be won by a couple of victories. .

Blogger Mountain Man November 11, 2016 10:48 AM  

"Expect Trump to be doing a third thing while the democrats are just starting to bitch about the first thing he did. He knows how to drive the news cycle."


So true.. they're already weeping and gnashing about the fact that he wont let them travel with him on his plane. So much so..its become headline news. While they're frothing at the mouth.. he's probably done a number of tactical political maneuvers they've totally missed.

Blogger ace November 11, 2016 10:49 AM  

@75
"The time to unify is after we have forced them into surrender just like we did the Japanese in World War II."

Interesting analogy, because I've come to view this election as the political equivalent of the Battle of Midway. They brought this giant armada, we struck them right where they were weak, and then gutted their striking force.

What's next? Not acquiescence; Guadalcanal.

Blogger Paul November 11, 2016 10:52 AM  

Here's sort of what I'm talking about. Overnight, the Left can apparently muster 2.3 million signatures to a petition calling for the EC electors to vote for Hillary instead.

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

Now, since Hillary only won the popular vote by 300K votes or so, the chance of this going anywhere is zero. But that's not the point. The point is that the Left can project itself out there in the public square as at least 2 million-something strong in an entirely unified way in the public square overnight.

Anonymous Takin' a Look November 11, 2016 10:54 AM  

@ Paul

"Just remember the best way to emasculate an entire population is to provide them with a private, sequestered space where they can do whatever they want."

Are you referring to the Alt-Right? You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

"No, don't be anons, go out and protest and let everyone know who you are!"

That was stupid in 1984,1994,2004 and 2014. Most of us are not financially secure or have a huge network of family and friends to back us up. We are _getting_ there, slowly but surely, in the meantime, the work continues.

Anonymous FP November 11, 2016 10:55 AM  

That independent UK article is hilarious.

"A pool of reporters and photographers was in the motorcade when President John F. Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas. The pool was just steps away from President Ronald Reagan when he was shot outside a hotel in the District of Columbia, and was stationed outside his hospital as he recovered. The pool also travels on vacation and foreign trips and at times captures personal, historic moments of the presidency."

So, they're saying it was the press behind the grassy knoll who shot JFK and a reporter who really shot at Reagan.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 10:57 AM  

There is no victory of defeat. There is only the eternal struggle.

The international terrorist Soros must be priority one. He has blood on his hands.

Anonymous Beau November 11, 2016 10:57 AM  

Mercy is for the repentant - in great abundance. What of those who refuse? They who sneer at joy are fit for nothing but laying down in torment.

Blogger Mountain Man November 11, 2016 10:57 AM  

@124
It wont go anywhere. They pulled the same shit with that governor in KY. Petitions for impeachment, pressure on the Speaker of the House to conduct show trial witch hunts ( which he did), AG lawsuits etc... In the end none of the petitions went anywhere and the most egregious actors in legislature who did the bidding of these agi-prop groups got thrown out on their asses by the voters.
The people have had it and the more these lib-marxists turn up the heat the hotter our rage will burn. They don't realize what a fools mission they are on.

Blogger Daetrin November 11, 2016 10:59 AM  

Even though I know this sort of thing is their wheelhouse, the left continues to surprise me with...this sort of thing.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/797057596008099844

Anonymous MIG November 11, 2016 11:01 AM  

@119 If I understood you correctly then I agree. There is a variety of new ageism that is all about cognitive and emotional discipline and focusing. It advocates the idea of radical responsibility for yourself and respect for the other, in the sense that "he will figure it out for himself." This type of new ageism is more compatible with conservative than liberal values, more with the invisible hand of the market than with the belief that the government should come and fix it for me. And I am observing that these ideas are spreading.

Blogger Jack Ward November 11, 2016 11:01 AM  

If it has not been mentioned. At Chris Muir's place Day by Day, the engineer wife and sniper husband are wearing Trumpslide 1016 shirts. Luv it..

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 11:01 AM  

The Soros paid goons in the streets is a diversion.

The "Info War" is the real war. The mask must be torn off the opposition. The face of Soros and his multi-billionaire ilk must be exposed.

Blogger OGRE November 11, 2016 11:02 AM  

@124 Paul. We discussed the electoral college thing in toward the end of the comment section in yesterday's VD column "DNC Implosion." Its going to take a whole lot more than just an online petition to flip the electoral college.

Anonymous JB November 11, 2016 11:03 AM  

I'm with Paul on this one: Boots on the street are a must. Disciplined, organised, and above all, cool as cucumber ZFG shows of strength are needed. Ignore the screamers and leftards, stare down the chimps, and march on, with the full knowledge that if push comes to shove, then one is prepared to put the boot in - again, in an organised, disciplined manner.

But most of all, this type of demonstration *must* be accompanied by a concerted effort - in all domains - to swing the political compass firmly to the right.

Fortune favours the brave. Trump has shown you the way.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 11:05 AM  

Dear Mr. Trump,

Repatriate - with highest honors - and APPOINT EDWARD SNOWDEN AS HEAD OF THE NSA with full authority to eliminate the agency if he deems necessary.

Blogger de ti November 11, 2016 11:06 AM  

@ Cail Corishev:

"I see two main reasons the left doesn't get us at all: projection and no sense of humor. When they elected Obama and painted pictures of Obama Jesus, they meant it. For most of them, that wasn't self-deprecating humor to make the election more fun; they really believed in him as some kind of racial healer on their Path of Progress."

Because for the Left, it really is about religion. Because politics, "social justice", "progressivism", and their standard bearers (Obama, Clinton, etc) are a religion to them. The Left puts their faith in politics. It's all they believe in; it constitutes all their first premises. It's how they see the world. It's an all encompassing worldview.

For the Left, "progress" is an article of faith. Taxes are the tithe. Obama, the Clintons, the Kennedys, Robert Lafollette, Eugene Debs etc are their prophets. Karl Marx their Moses; FDR their Isaiah. Abortion is their sacrament. Their holy texts: Das Kapital; A People's History of the United States; the NYT, WaPo, HuffPo, DailyKos. Their "ministers" are on ABCCBSNBCCNNMSNBC.

The Left is their religion. They put all their faith in it, and it's all they believe.

Anonymous Beau November 11, 2016 11:07 AM  

You felt secure in your wickedness, you said, "No one sees me"; your wisdom and knowledge led you astray, and you said in your heart, "I am, and there is no one besides me."

But evil came upon you, which you did not know how to charm away; disaster fell upon you, which you were not able to atone, and ruin came upon you suddenly, of which you knew nothing.
Isaiah 47:10-11

Heavenly Father,

I lift up to you Hillary Clinton. Use the travail of this moment to open her eyes and free her heart. May she say, "Holy God in Heaven, my ambition blinded me, my greed broke me." May she renounce the devil and all his works, find you, and in so doing find life. I ask this in the name of your precious son, Jesus.

Blogger RobertT November 11, 2016 11:08 AM  

The Alt-Right is a virtual concept, but already better defined than the nebulous conservative movement. There is no structure, no elected officials, no party leadership. Leaders will come & go determined by their followers. True believers define what the alt-right is, not not the pundits or the public, and certainly not the not-to-be-trusted media. When the alt-right moves into the mainstream, that will be the first day of its demise. As it stands now, there is no one to fight with. Fight with the clouds.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 11:08 AM  

@135

Yes, boots on the ground in protest at the super-villain lair of George Soros.

Skip the minions. Confront the head.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan November 11, 2016 11:09 AM  

@37 pyrrhus

Word is that Trey Gowdy is on the short list for Attorney General. That would be GLORIOUS, and would go a long way toward offsetting any disappointing picks.

Blogger Mountain Man November 11, 2016 11:10 AM  

My money is on Paul being a govt. paid agent provocateur. Maybe DHS, FBI ? Ive been here for nearly half a year and don't recognize his moniker. Hes also taking the conversation in a direction that does nothing to help our movement.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) November 11, 2016 11:10 AM  

To the idiots arguing for counter protests:

Never interrupt your enemy when xe is making a mistake

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 11:11 AM  

Wow... O-BOMB-a sure brought us all together.

He'll go down in history - with the Bushes - as the greatest failure in US history. He's a massive disappointment. From god to clown in eight years.

Oh, how the mighty fall.

Anonymous BGKB November 11, 2016 11:12 AM  

“I don’t think they’ll do a good job spreading that message when they are in power and there’s nothing to fight against.”

Shitlibs have literally said they will be doubling down. Human Rights Campaign President Chad Griffin released a statement Wednesday on the ... we don't slow down. We double down

driven to the point of standing up and speaking out publicly, by a Left that would simply not leave us alone to live in peace and freedom.

I wonder how many people have blocked me for telling them to blame the little girls bathroom and cake lawsuit fights for TRUMP's win?

Well, yes, if your goal is to provoke a civil war with millions of Americans dead, that sounds like a fantastic idea.

Don't correct an enema when its making a mistake. I have enough freeze dried food for the nigapocalypse. Don't you want to see blacks cannibalizing liberals after die verse city electricity gets cut off?

assuming two things about the alt right:1 - The alt right has short memory (they wish) 2 - Alt right has a lack of understanding what is at stake

Thankfully minecraft taught people its not just a brick.

Blogger The Other Robot November 11, 2016 11:13 AM  

Someone over at Sailer's thinks that the globalists have now realized that they underestimated Trump and the resolve of White Americans. Indeed, given that they were ready to stir up protests nationwide the day after the election, perhaps they realized it before the results were in.

He says:

Assuming this scenario has a good chance to develop, the implication is that the alt-right successes may be dead as early as the 2018 or 2020 unless the same voters who supported the current victory are galvanized to the concept that they also need to organize, quickly, to continue taking action beyond what a government can do, and to do so beyond the Internet or voting booth. So far they have acted individually in their collective interest, but have not banded into an actual collective.

Sounds like a need for 4GW.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 11:13 AM  

@143
I second that. Josh... and I don't write this often... is right.

Counter-protests would be a tactical mistake.

Blogger OGRE November 11, 2016 11:14 AM  

@141 Zapp. Indeed! I've been hoping for that since well before the election. When the Transition Team twitter account went up yesterday I sent them that suggestion, so I will take all the credit for making it happen!!

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 11:17 AM  

Edward Snowden, head of the NSA

Ron Paul, Fed Chair or Treasury?

Also, Julianne Assange should totally exonerated.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 11, 2016 11:19 AM  

Josh (the gayest thing here) wrote:To the idiots arguing for counter protests:

Never interrupt your enemy when xe is making a mistake


Hey man, copyright @2016 VOX DAY, brother, but that quote belongs on a shirt. Brilliant. And true (not that that matters anymore.)

Blogger James Dixon November 11, 2016 11:19 AM  

> Electors are yet to vote, kiddos. This is far from over

Do you really want the blood of those electors and possibly their families on your hands? Go ahead. Keep pushing. Then watch what the voters do to traitors.

> In 2018 Dems must defend a whopping 10 senate seats in states won by Trump

They may not have WV to defend. Manchin is considering switching parties.

Anonymous JB November 11, 2016 11:19 AM  

The imperative to become active, and organised is not so much dictated by protest as by a will to power: look to the positive aspects of examples provided by Jobbik in Hungary, the Golden Dawn in Greece, and even the Front National in France in terms of policies, image and action.

It's all good and well to make use of the magic of the internet, but it has its limits. No one said this would be easy, and if you're afraid of the heat, get out of the kitchen, or stick to your (digital) strengths. I say that with all due respect.

Those who would man up and step up to the plate must be aware that, the alt-right being what is: essentially a headless creature, the onus is on these individuals to educate and strengthen themselves. Not to persuade others as such, but to be absolutely clear on their own goals, rather than settle for second-best fellow-traveller status. Hence the study of history, politics, economics, and so on.

Blogger Feather Blade November 11, 2016 11:19 AM  

@13 From the petition: "Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!"

which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!

Hahahahaha... sure they will. Clinton supporters haven't paid for anything in decades.

Blogger OGRE November 11, 2016 11:20 AM  

@149 Godfrey. Ron Paul as Fed Chairman would be a bigger Fuck You to the elite than electing Trump was.

Ahh so many glorious Lulz to be had! Kek be praised!

Anonymous Cadwallander J November 11, 2016 11:21 AM  

Pat Buchanan is on the same page today. No compromise, no surrender, no re-assuring the rabbits. Set bayonets and charge.

Blogger OGRE November 11, 2016 11:23 AM  

@151 James Dixon. Yeah Manchin is a big opportunist and is finally realizing that WV has gone from navy blue to crimson red over the past 20 years. He'll likely switch. The Dem party has collapsed in WV which used to be its biggest stronghold.

@153 Feather Blade. The ignorance behind that petition is staggering.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 11, 2016 11:23 AM  

My wife was looking at Trump coming away from his Washington meetings yesterday. She said, "he looks scared" and I agree. We've got a long way to go and I suspect the alligators in the swamp are bigger by an order of magnitude than we have been told.

Anonymous BGKB November 11, 2016 11:24 AM  

The election is such a big deal Lew Rockwell forgot to run his yearly libertarian denunciation of free meals on veterans day. http://www.abc15.com/news/national/veterans-day-2016-where-to-get-deals-freebies

Edward Snowden, head of the NSA

Just think if he pardoned Snowden, Manning, and Assange while telling people he wants whistleblowers to turn in everything from TREASON, to Warren Buffet buying government property for pennies on the dollar.

Counter-protests would be a tactical mistake.

The protesters are saying "hey hey we are nasty hoes, talk of unity & compromise has got to go"

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 11, 2016 11:24 AM  

Last week Cher said she'd have to leave the planet if Trump won. No word so far on her progress towards orbit.

How, oh, how could deportation of illegals possibly ever get started, when they are all out there living in the shadows? Well, there's a list of over 1 million of them in DC right now on the "amnesty application" list. That would be a place to start, those stupid enough to hand over their name, address, etc.

Are you not amused? Is this not still the best election EVAH?

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Blogger Harsh November 11, 2016 11:24 AM  

Your "emperor" ain't ascending to any kind of throne tho
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19


"Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic."

That's some weapons-grade projection, bro.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 11, 2016 11:26 AM  

Counter-protests would be a tactical mistake.

A yuge one. It would be trivial for the media to spin it as Trump-inspired white supremacists picking on po' innocent black folks.

If something has to be done about rioters (and I'm not sure it does), send the cops. It's their job, it'll give them something to do besides hassling law-abiding citizens, and it'll make it impossible for the Nice People to side with the rioters, because Cops Are Good.

Anonymous JB November 11, 2016 11:26 AM  

@157: Remember Eisenhower and his military-industrial complex speech? Now just consider how much worse things have become.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 11, 2016 11:27 AM  

Pope's response to Trump's election muted although he still is an open borders fanatic he now prays for Trump's "enlightenment", rather than proclaim anything about Trump's religious status.

So, another chatterer is chastened by the mere election of the Donald? Good.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 11:28 AM  

@157
Maybe they showed him the Zapruder film?

But hell, at 70 why fear anything but God.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 11, 2016 11:29 AM  

Put more simply: in these "protests," the left is showing its ass. Don't get in the way, just point.

Blogger The Other Robot November 11, 2016 11:30 AM  

I think that the globalists will concentrate on trying to win back the electoral advantages and control they lost in the 2014 midterms and in this past election.

The Alt-Lite etc has to concentrate on getting cucks out of office and getting rid of winner-take-all states in the EC.

Blogger Ingemar November 11, 2016 11:33 AM  

The_Donald's supporters are going for the next logical move... Soros For Prison.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sorosforprison/

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 11, 2016 11:33 AM  

Where's the vid of the SJW flinging her own poop? That is the essences of the #NeverTrump left right about now, and all we need to do is point and laugh.

"Here's your protest. Flinging poo, just like a monkey. Anyone impressed?"

Anonymous Fisher November 11, 2016 11:40 AM  

The Left are not reality-based thinkers and are therefore not intellectually equipped to understand what the Alt-Right is. They can only continue to analyze what's happening from within the chrysalis of their characteristic superficiality.

Said differently: These people didn't eat the blue pill, they cooked then mainlined the whole fucking bottle.

Blogger Paul November 11, 2016 11:42 AM  

@134 OGRE

Reread where I say that the petition going nowhere is entirely beside the point. The point is that there are 2+ million lefty signatures on a public document, overnight. By contrast, if the public knows of the Alt-Right at all or cares, it believes it to be a crackpot fringe.

And by contrast, the consensus response here is to put the Left on double secret Internet probation.

Never confuse the 2016 election having temporarily highlighted the Alt-Right with the Alt-Right having elected Trump. As far as the Alt-Right itself is concerned, a better outcome might have been for Hillary to have been elected. Now that wind is gone, and the Alt-Right finds itself becalmed in the Doldrums.

Time to start rowing back into the public eye or be forgotten.

Anonymous karsten November 11, 2016 11:43 AM  

"What the Left does not understand, indeed, what it may be incapable of understanding, is that most of us in the Alt-Right are not power-hungry or fame whores. (I said most, not all.) Most of us have been driven to the point of action, driven to the point of standing up and speaking out publicly, by a Left that would simply not leave us alone to live in peace and freedom."

Exactly. And this is a particular blind spot for the (((tribe))). For them, "What's the point of doing something if you're not getting shekels for it?"

That's why they're so baffled by the Internet Anonymity of the Alt-Right. "How can they profit that way? Must be fake accounts. Or funded by Putin. Or something."

Pure projection.

The Alt-Right operates out of principle. Unthinkable for our (((enemies))).

Blogger epobirs November 11, 2016 11:44 AM  

"Extremist militia groups"

They didn't disappear, you nitwit, they mostly never existed in the first place and stopped being a useful boogieman when the Clintons left the White House. If they were real, don't you think they would have become an issue again under Obama after a mere eight years away? Or is it that the new regime had a different set of memes for their invented enemies?

Blogger The Other Robot November 11, 2016 11:53 AM  

David Brooks in the NY Times:

Finally, it seems important to be humbled and taught by this horrific election result. Trump’s main problem in governing is not going to be some fascistic ideology; his main problem is going to be his own attention span, ignorance and incompetence. If he’s left to bloviate while others are left to run the country and push through infrastructure plans, maybe things won’t be disastrous.

The job for the rest of us is to rebind the fabric of society, community by community, and to construct a political movement for the post-Trump era. I suspect the coming political movements will be identified on two axes: open and closed and individual and social.


There's more. Suck it, Brooks.

Anonymous patrick kelly November 11, 2016 11:57 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Reading an article over at zerohedge The Donald really knows how to troll the Left/Cuck alliance. Then there are the internet spergs fussing over minute details.

The Donald needs help not the internet fapping of egotistical spergs and their self centered wonderfulness.


This is why the MAGA ilk need to keep their jerking knees under control.

Don't react to every little thing Trump says or does the next few months. He's still working whatever magik he has with the MSM, markets, and political whore classes.

Blogger The Other Robot November 11, 2016 12:00 PM  

Malcolm Gladwell says Trump will be in jail in a year:

Trump in jail in a year

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 11, 2016 12:01 PM  

Fuck "Standing astride history, yelling 'STOP!'"
Let's try "Flanking history, driving it to the right, singing 'Death!'"

Blogger The Other Robot November 11, 2016 12:03 PM  

Looks like a good time for a list of predictions about Trump so it can be referred to again and again.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 12:03 PM  

Soros, international terrorist, is priority one. He's guilty of crimes against humanity worldwide.

Extradite him to Russia.

Anonymous Godfrey November 11, 2016 12:06 PM  

@175
Hmm... and I was expecting an assassination attempt.

Either way it will be a huge miscalculation by the establishment and will only add fuel to the resistance.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 11, 2016 12:16 PM  

To the leftist who think they can Sarah Palin their way to a Trump resignation I say, good luck with that. They also haven't been paying attention to the depth and breadth of "executive privilege" these days.

Clintons have shown us the way. You say "partisan attack" and proceed to ignoring them an reducing access to anyone who persists.

Anonymous Robert Coble November 11, 2016 12:19 PM  

@75. Salt (quoting Rush):

"The time to unify is after we have forced them into surrender just like we did the Japanese in World War II.

NUKE THEM UNTIL THEY ACCEPT UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER -OR- ARE TOTALLY WIPED OUT.

Blogger ZhukovG November 11, 2016 12:25 PM  

@szopen: Nice video. I assume those were the Nationalists marching? So, when is Poland going to reclaim Eastern Galicia? It is a shame that the monument to the Eaglets of Lvov is not in Poland.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 11, 2016 12:25 PM  

Trump’s main problem in governing is not going to be some fascistic ideology; his main problem is going to be his own attention span, ignorance and incompetence. -- David Brooks

Yep, whatever you do, don't learn anything. Stick with the same assumptions that made you look like a fool last time. That was just bad luck; they're sure to be right this time!

Blogger Were-Puppy November 11, 2016 12:27 PM  

All they had to do was leave us alone. They wouldn't do that. So, the Alt-Right will not leave them alone.
--

If ever there was a song that summed up these sentiments, it is Alone by Judas Priest

https://youtu.be/vxh6VBI8UCE

They say we are fools
We say look at you
Long ago
We were just a few
Still say we don't need you

[Chorus]
We don't wanna belong
We said all along
We just wanna be, left alone
We don't wanna belong
We said all along
We just wanna be, left alone

Think that we must have lost our way
Running form the blaze
You were wrong
We chose our course
Counted up the days
Enduring in a rage
We got strong

You denied everything that's good
Reacting as you would
With your shame
So we turned
And left you all behind
We don't need your kind
You're to blame

In years to come
You'll hear my name
When darkness falls
On Judgment Day

Anonymous patrick kelly November 11, 2016 12:29 PM  

Beau wrote:You felt secure in your wickedness, you said, "No one sees me"; your wisdom and knowledge led you astray, and you said in your heart, "I am, and there is no one besides me."

But evil came upon you, which you did not know how to charm away; disaster fell upon you, which you were not able to atone, and ruin came upon you suddenly, of which you knew nothing.
Isaiah 47:10-11

Heavenly Father,

I lift up to you Hillary Clinton. Use the travail of this moment to open her eyes and free her heart. May she say, "Holy God in Heaven, my ambition blinded me, my greed broke me." May she renounce the devil and all his works, find you, and in so doing find life. I ask this in the name of your precious son, Jesus.


Thank you Beau.

This is war. I understand. But sometimes my heart weeps at the carnage and casualties. Maybe it should weep more.

This is not me virtue signalling. I'm not better than anyone here, probably worse. Anyone who made the effort to tie my postings here with a blog page I started a couple of years ago might understand why.

God's grace and mercy are what I long for, and I have taken advantage and trampled underfoot both, often. It is difficult for me to cry out for justice or vengeance, knowing what I deserve.

Even when I oppose the reasons for sending US soldiers to fight for the empire, my prayer has been for them to kick ass, take names, destroy their enemy, and come home safe, and never have to do it again. I hope the same for this war and pray it's never necessary to become kinetic and explosive.

MAGA but don't kill your hearts and souls in the process. We're gonna' needs some tender loving care from each other along the way.

Blogger Noah B aka Carlos Danger Close November 11, 2016 12:38 PM  

Trump did not go through all this trouble just so he could turn into a typical politician and wimp out because the media says mean things about him. He doesn't need the money, political connections, or the perks. He despises the media, the left, and the cucks. His motive is clear: to do what he thinks is right for America. He doesn't owe anyone any favors. He controls his friends, not the other way around.

This is why the left is terrified. It's a new day in America.

Blogger szopen November 11, 2016 12:39 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:@szopen: Nice video. I assume those were the Nationalists marching? So, when is Poland going to reclaim Eastern Galicia? It is a shame that the monument to the Eaglets of Lvov is not in Poland.

It's the march organised by far-right nationalist. Because it was attacked by liberal media, many other nationalists joined and now pretty much all right-wingers participate in the march - though it is still organised oficially by the far-right.

As for the "eastern galicia"; well, first I will refer some nationalists' stance (i.e. not mine): this is year there were slogans "from the cradle to the grave, Polish Vilnius, Polish Lviv", and some guys burned the Ukrainian flag. Some other faction are enmoured with Ukrainians. Some are considering them mortal enemy and think support for Ukrainian right-wing is insane, since Ukrainian right-wingers still pretend Volhynia massacres had not happened and were just "civil war".

Now, my opinion: first, for context, from my father's side, a lot of family came from the Borderlands, I think some aunts were killed during Vohlynia massacres. Part of my family still lives in Belarus, but unfortunately younger generation no longer considers themselves Polish.

But it's a past. I think right now we are in no position to think about reclaiming lost lands. Moreover, if we would think that way: Germans are our mortal enemies, Russians are enemies, Czechs must give back Zaolzie, Ukrainians must renounce Lviv, Belarus should return Grodno and Lithuania should return Vilnius - then we would have no friends and allies around us. It's time to forget about the past. So yeah, Vilnius and Lviv are beatiful cities, and my grandfather fought in 1944 Vilnius uprising, but we have more important thing endangering now. That means we should forget about Lviv forever, since it would be dishonest to say "let's stand up together now because we are in danger, and later we will cut your throats". Moreover, Lviv would add nothing except sentimental value and dangerous minority.

Anonymous deplorable six pan November 11, 2016 12:40 PM  

Or maybe just throwing gas on the fire?

Blogger Noah B aka Carlos Danger Close November 11, 2016 12:41 PM  

@178 If Trump is willing to use extradition to see that justice is done, Obama's pardons of his cabinet officials are worthless. It would be lovely to see Hillary on trial in Egypt or Libya.

Anonymous deplorable six pan November 11, 2016 12:43 PM  

Hammers. Thousands upon thousands of hammers, marching.

Ordo Mallei indeed.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 11, 2016 12:43 PM  

@13 Colourless Green Ideas Sleep Furiously
Your "emperor" ain't ascending to any kind of throne tho
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19
---

Are you fools so eager to die in a bloody civil war?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 11, 2016 12:46 PM  

@12 Jim Carroll

That said, when Spencer says "Trump’s victory was, at its root, a victory of identity politics" is simply false for ALL of the people that I know that voted for Trump. *I* voted for Trump for precisely the opposite reason. Just like Milo, I'm TIRED of the identity politics.

---

I agree, Trump is a Civic Nationalist. I'm willing to go that route but don't believe it will work long term unless there are some massive societal changes. But hell, we were rolling a dice with Trump, and I'm happy so far with the results.

Blogger Noah B aka Carlos Danger Close November 11, 2016 12:48 PM  

@13 Oh look, they made a list for us.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 11, 2016 12:52 PM  

@30 lurker
One thing is for sure the Alt-Right needs to be on permanent offensive from here on out, something "CONservatives" never did.
---

Yes, we need to proceed as predators, removing the weak lefties from all positions of influence and power. Well, let's start with Cucks, Churchians, Neocons and Globalists. Any lefties get in the way, put them on the menu as a "seasonal" item :P

Blogger The Other Robot November 11, 2016 12:53 PM  

Feel like rating grubhub for their intolerance?

Place to rate grubhub

Anonymous Tipsy November 11, 2016 12:59 PM  

When I was a engineering student at Berkeley in the 80s, I soon got the message that the only politically proper attitude that whites should have is one of self-loathing. I didn't see that as misoleukism at first, but as it has gotten more and more prominent it can no longer be ignored.

I would have been perfectly happy to see a America as a harmonious melting pot, but what I didn't see earlier is that as the country has become more diverse, it has become more susceptible to those who would exploit ethnic differences to further their selfish political agenda. In a sense, the secularist gnostic Left has exploited race divisions in the US much in the same way that the Bolsheviks exploited class divisions in Russia, and indeed imported non-whites so that there would be more division to exploit.

It's clear, now, what the goal is: the complete destruction of Christianity as an animating feature of Western culture, and with it, the West. Since it is clear to me how diabolical that is, I have little recourse other than to put on armor and fight.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 11, 2016 1:01 PM  

@47 VFM #1305
Damn, what a time to be a reader of this blog. The last posts have been nothing short of electrifying.
---

This place has been epic since I discovered it a couple years ago - it keeps on rolling strong!

Blogger ZhukovG November 11, 2016 1:09 PM  

@szopen: Thank you for that information. I am, of course, aware of the borders of pre-WWII Poland. I just considered Eastern Galicia potentially doable given that Ukraine is barely holding itself together. You would have to expel a lot of the Ukrainian Nationals in the area. At least those that are enamored with Stepan Bandera.

Lands in Lithuania and Belarus are more problematic. Lithuania is I believe a NATO ally and Belarus would have the Russian Federation's support.

It is somewhat amusing to me, though likely not to you, that because Poland is part of NATO your 'mortal enemies', the Niemcy got to drive some panzers around your country.

I doubt the Nationalists got misty eyed over that bit of nostalgia.

Blogger AureliusMoner November 11, 2016 1:09 PM  

@130 That's convenient if we get into a shooting war; just aim for the safety pins first, and watch the resistance crumble!

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