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Saturday, December 17, 2016

Dealing with defamation

Melania Trump files suit in Maryland:
The original complaint filed in Maryland Circuit Court focused on an Aug. 19 Daily Mail article entitled, “Naked photoshoots, and troubling questions about visas that won’t go away: The VERY racy past of Donald Trump’s Slovenian wife.”

“The statements of fact in the Daily Mail Article are false. Plaintiff did legitimate and legal modeling work for legitimate business entities and did not work for any ‘gentleman’s club’ or ‘escort’ agencies. Plaintiff was not a sex worker, escort or prostitute in any way, shape or form, nor did she ever have a composite or presentation card for the sex business,” the lawsuit said.

“Plaintiff did not come to the United States until 1996. Thus, Plaintiff did not, and could not have participated in a photo shoot in the United States or met her current husband in the United States prior to that time,” the lawsuit also said.
So, she's considerably more of a public figure than I am, the accusation is less harmful, and she doesn't even have multiple examples of documentary evidence of malice on the part of the accused demonstrated over an extended period of time.

And yet, the Daily Mail is likely going to try to settle.

Meanwhile, keep in mind the owner of Amazing Stories attitude toward lawsuits before you defend his right to engage to defend defamatory practices:
I don’t want to become an industry that threatens to sue everyone improperly using the name, but I also have a duty to my licensing partners to preserve and protect it. Right now I am spending what little free cash I have on IP attorneys. The research they are doing will determine who we go after and how; we’re still trying to decide whether to get settlements from “little guys” first, or go after a big kahuna first. The latter is potentially more attractive for a variety of reasons – publicity, the potential winnings (some have already been informed of their infringement and have chosen to ignore that notice, which means they could be up for treble damages) and the possibility of making things better for many others who find themselves in similar circumstances; going after little guys first is usually done to help build a case against the larger guys, but it usually involves a lot of what some might call “intimidation” and I’m not that comfortable with that. But in the end the attorneys are going to tell me what our best course will be and we’ll pursue it.
Steve Davidson was obviously quite comfortable with engaging in lawfare when he thought it suited him. And he already knows he has a little problem on his hands here.
anyone having access to good information to defamation and anti-nazi laws in EU countries, please get in touch with me
It's rather depressing to learn that a guy whose wife was diagnosed with cancer in April prefers to spend his time and financial resources on defamation rather than on her, but, as the Austrians say, all value is subjective. What is wrong with these people?

Anyhow, it would certainly be amusing to end up in possession of the Amazing Stories trademark as a result of all this. We've already been reviewing an example of case law with $235k in damages for defamation alone in New Hampshire, an award that was appealed and upheld. Considering that I am an editor and publisher of leading Jewish and Israeli authors, including two books coming out in the next four months, it should be readily apparent that Mr. Davidson's publication of Ms Meadow's defamatory claim was both wanton and malicious.

Interestingly enough, one of those authors is even considered a world expert on fascism, having written one of the foremost academic treatments of it.
Right now, the bulk of Experimenter’s budget is being spent on intellectual property attorneys. 
No worries, we can fix that.

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40 Comments:

Anonymous Daniel December 17, 2016 1:32 PM  

Ascend, Goddess-Queen Consort, ascend.

Blogger JohnR219 December 17, 2016 1:38 PM  

what's with the link...it goes to blogger.com

Blogger Thucydides December 17, 2016 1:38 PM  

Don't settle, hit them for at least seven or eight figures in damages. Only when enough pain is inflicted on SJW's and Progressives will they begin to learn.

Even flatworms are smarter than that.

Anonymous Godfrey December 17, 2016 1:47 PM  

What is the Alt-Right? It's people who play the game like the opposition.

The Cucks play by Queensberry Rules while the filthy animals on the Left gouge eyes and kick groins. Not for us Cucks. We play to win and we hit hard.

You have a choice in this world. You can either keep going to school and getting picked on by the bully or you can go to school and knock the shit out of him.

Blogger pyrrhus December 17, 2016 1:51 PM  

It's just incredible to me that a "businessman" with little money wants to spend it on lawyers, with a likely return of much less than zero. Common sense is disappearing rapidly in America...

Anonymous LurkingPuppy December 17, 2016 1:52 PM  

More fun quotes from that Steve Davidson interview (https://archive.is/4SlhW):
When I discovered in 2008 that Hasbro had dropped the trademark (despite having had prior offers to purchase it), I figured two things: first, that someone ought to register the trademark if only to save it for future generations
(And didn’t cost me as much as most since I do trademark and provisional patent applications.)
An interesting occupation for someone who needs to hire other people as ‘IP attorneys’.

And, I was not planning on launching when I did. In fact, I wasn’t going to launch until I found the investors, but I quickly found myself under so much pressure to “do something” that
And at that he almost lost his precious trademark by not using it.

Blogger VD December 17, 2016 1:52 PM  

Link fixed.

Don't settle, hit them for at least seven or eight figures in damages.

There is a process. If they're dumb enough to try to fight it out all the way, they could probably get to six figures. You don't just invent the highest number you can imagine. That's not how it works.

We're still doing the research. We have one year in Australia and three years in New Hampshire. Of course, it will be easier to win the latter after winning the former.

Anonymous Man of the Atom December 17, 2016 1:54 PM  

Mr Davidson obviously doesn't realize that by doubling down Amazing Stories cover page could read this way in a few years:

Published by Castalia House
Editor-in-Chief: Vox Day

Anonymous Brick Hardslab December 17, 2016 2:16 PM  

I found it interesting that cameltoe fappatron is still obsessed with VD. He's all over the comments section.

Anonymous Dave December 17, 2016 2:19 PM  

All of the above was predicated on two beliefs. First, that the name was iconic enough that I would be able to derive income from licensing the property. This has come to pass with three licensing deals (reprint line of books, signage and the NBC TV deal) with the possibility of more in the future. Second, that I would be able to find investors capable of understanding the vision and willing to invest in a “new” kind of publishing, where the platform generated the audience.

This latter concept has not borne fruit (yet).



Indeed, Atom Man, perhaps it is all an elaborate plan to gain an investor as the majority owner when he eventually settles with VD.

Anonymous Philalethes December 17, 2016 2:22 PM  

Published by Castalia House
Editor-in-Chief: Vox Day


Awesome.

Blogger bob kek mando ( NABTY ) December 17, 2016 2:24 PM  

VD
Interestingly enough, one of those authors is even considered a world expert on fascism, having written one of the foremost academic treatments of it.



but of course.

how can you be "Literally Hitler" without being an expert on ... Literally Hitler.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 17, 2016 2:24 PM  

You're the Dark Lord for a reason, the Grandmaster of the Black Knight Order. Why haven't they learned?

Anonymous Just another commenter December 17, 2016 2:43 PM  

Yeah, Amazing Stories, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Castalia House does have a nice ring to it. Make Amazing Stories Amazing Again!

Blogger Sillon Bono December 17, 2016 2:44 PM  

>> You have a choice in this world. You can either keep going to school and getting picked on by the bully or you can go to school and knock the shit out of him.

AMEN TO THAT! (Insert picture of a fist!)

Blogger Lazarus December 17, 2016 2:44 PM  

Derrick Bonsell wrote:Why haven't they learned?

Cuz they do not respond to instruction.

Anonymous Nathan December 17, 2016 2:46 PM  

@13,

Because bad things happen to others, not them, so long as they say the right things and think the right thoughts. Being tested like Job or martyred like Stephen is not supposed to happen.

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid December 17, 2016 2:56 PM  

Another skull chalice for the collection, more bones for the VFM to gnaw. Success, Dark Lord!

Blogger VD December 17, 2016 2:58 PM  

Neither Hell nor woman hath persistence like a gamma wounded.

Blogger Jack Ward December 17, 2016 3:10 PM  

Should Amazing Stories become part of Castalia...well, quite the coup. And, the authors published will probably be quite pleased with the deals and money.

Anonymous MongoJimmy December 17, 2016 3:13 PM  

I would rub their collective Face in it a bit more.

Call it 'Vox Day's Amazing Stories'. Has a nice Ring to it.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 17, 2016 3:18 PM  

Tired of winning yet?

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 17, 2016 3:21 PM  

Vox, I'd love to hear your take on Heartiste's recent post on this subject: Revenge Is A Dish Best Served To Psychopaths.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 17, 2016 3:23 PM  

Specifically, I'm curious to know how much of this you'd guess is learned behavior versus instinct. You've demonstrated a keen ability to read the minds and intentions of the upper social classes before.

Anonymous logprof December 17, 2016 4:12 PM  

Off topic, but reading a British Empire history and this Alfred Milner fellow pops up: "'If I am also an imperialist,’ Milner declared, ‘it is because the resting of the English race, owing to its insular position and its long supremacy at sea, has been to strike fresh roots in distant parts of the world. My patriotism knows no geographical but only racial limits. I am an imperialist and not a Little Englander because I am a British race Patriot. It is not the soil of England … which is essential to arouse my patriotism, but the speech, the traditions, the spiritual heritage, the principles, the aspirations, of the British race…'"

I got a tingle reading that.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 17, 2016 5:05 PM  

I personally enjoy how they harp on what the definition of a "Nazi" is, all the while completely ignoring how defamation and libel work. They seriously have no clue. "Nazi" as an adjective is not a legal definition! Hahaha!

Also, Australia and New Hampshire (being in the US) both have mens rea, so as long as their intent to defame is clear...

Anonymous Atlas December 17, 2016 5:07 PM  

@26

Vox is a Sigma.

I know, don't feed the troll...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 17, 2016 6:08 PM  

VD wrote:Neither Hell nor woman hath persistence like a gamma wounded.

Wild Man is still going on the "One can always count on a gamma" post, under the name of mike.
I keep slapping him around, and he keeps posing as just wanting to altruistically bring us all to the light of truth that it's okay to be a gamma.

Anonymous BBGKB December 17, 2016 6:40 PM  

anyone having access to good information to defamation and anti-nazi laws in EU countries, please get in touch with me

Better call Saul Cohen of Cohen, Cohen & Cohen.

Considering that I am an editor and publisher of leading Jewish and Israeli authors,

But those are the wrong kind of jews, you might as well be seen endorsed by Bibi Netinyahoo.

The Cucks play by Queensberry Rules while the filthy animals on the Left gouge eyes and kick groins. Not for us Cucks.

I fight so dirty that 5 diversity fellows who jumped me after using an ATM cried to the cops that I fought dirty.

Blogger Lazarus December 17, 2016 8:02 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:bring us all to the light of truth that it's okay to be a gamma.

Being a Gamma is NOT OK.....

Done.

Anonymous Ain December 17, 2016 11:40 PM  

Some things just shouldn't be bitten

Blogger theFirstMonkey December 18, 2016 12:25 AM  

And so, as did "diversity" become exposed as truly representing a strong "anti-white" attitude, so too has "neo-Nazi", "fascist" and "misogynist" has come to be the modern terminology for "unapologetic and prideful masculine heterosexual white Christian alpha-male".

Who said : "It is possible to know the character of a man through the lens of the degree of hatred and fear (masked in contempt) in which his enemies hold him."?

I think i might have just paraphrased the original but i can't recal the exact wording.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 18, 2016 1:31 AM  

so too has "neo-Nazi", "fascist" and "misogynist" has come to be the modern terminology for "unapologetic and prideful masculine heterosexual white Christian alpha-male".

You can leave "Alpha" off of there. I'm no alpha. "Christian" too, I'm pretty sure. At least, the pagans get called Nazi all the tome too. And hell, given Milo, you can drop the "masculine"filter. What does that leave? "Unapologetic male".

Yep, that's sufficient to get called those names.

Anonymous MongoJimmy December 18, 2016 7:02 AM  

What does that leave? "Unapologetic male".

Yep, that's sufficient to get called those names.


I don't think Pastor Ray Higgins has to endure such slander.

Blogger Unknown December 18, 2016 7:20 AM  

Upon Reflection; PRH has to endure a different, arguably just as vicious, form of Defamation.

Blogger William Hudson December 18, 2016 8:36 AM  

@34 Since I didn't know who Pastor Ray "Hagins" was, I ixquick-ed him. It gave me many links. One of them was this one:
http://waronthehorizon.com/site/
They don't seem to realize that it is we White People who are under attack, and that "they" are nothing more than (((someone's))) hammer with which to pound us into the ground. Too bright, they are not.

Anonymous JAG December 18, 2016 11:29 AM  

I am at the point where I figure that every stupid shitlib that isn't getting rich off of stupid shitlibs is a gamma. In other words, 99% of them.

Anonymous Reader December 18, 2016 9:41 PM  

I like your blog VD but don't know that suing under the Australian law has you any hope of winning. I'm not a lawyer and just using my common sense.

You have to prove that your reputation suffered in Aus. However, most people do not know you here. So therefore there's no reputation that you should be defending
here.

Then there are 3 definitions of the word "neo-nazi" given by Oxford , Merriam Webster and by another one. David Futrelle, not exactly a friend of yours, discussed this matter in his blog. So, yes, they can make a justification why you can be called a neo-nazi.

Also, Aus culture is rather very sensitive to extreme views. Andrew Bolt a well know journalist of the Murdoch press once wrote an article about blond, pale skin, blue eyed Aussies identifying as aboriginal allegedly to gain benefits, like grants, positions. He identified them by names and backed his article with facts. He was sued under 18 C clause of racial anti-vilification act of by an aboriginal group citing insult to the aboriginal community. Bolt lost the case and one of the reasons by the judgment was the tone of the article. Yes, tone. Herald Sun issued an apology but I do not think the plaintiff got any money at all.

Surely, if you sue, your defendant will cite hundreds of pages of your blog about your strong opinions on non-white people.

Free speech in the US is much freer than in Aus. Aus is very much politically correct that's why I'm. The threshold of getting offended is very low here.

Of course if you think it's worth your time and money to sue, then try but don't say I did not warn you.

Blogger wreckage December 19, 2016 1:48 AM  

@37; it's not necessarily relevant to suing for libel. The courts are the courts and the rest is not. 18c is not actually law, nor is it tried in the normal legal manner; that's why the normal legal protections do not apply.


But, if he is accused of "making up" being Amerindian, he may be able to invoke s18c of the anti-discrimination act.

Blogger Akulkis December 19, 2016 1:52 AM  

@35

You don't seem to understand. In their eyes, failure to give ALL of your wealth to them is "attacking" them.

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