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Saturday, December 03, 2016

Do NOT give to the Red Cross

You won't be helping the people you're trying to help. It's a corrupt, SJW-converged organization.

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Blogger Aeoli Pera December 03, 2016 6:27 PM  

Anarchotyranny distributed via ideological signaling. Never in a million years could I have dreamed this system up.

Blogger Keyser Soze December 03, 2016 6:28 PM  

Red Cross, POS!! Years ago I found out what they do with donated blood, fractionate and sell sell sell it. Despicable! I won't give them anything nor do I expect or want anything from them.

Blogger Johnny December 03, 2016 6:29 PM  

These private aid agencies all run on whatever it is they can raise funds for. I have never seen a careful audit, but I suspect that charity funds generally are a major source of corruption. A lot of them really are just tax breaks for rich people.

Anonymous Northern Refugee December 03, 2016 6:30 PM  

Vox,

What is going on with the Referendum?

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner December 03, 2016 6:32 PM  

SO many of these """Charities"""simply don't want white people to benefit from white peoples donations. Stop by your local blood donor center to see if they still have the 5-10-15 gallon donor pictures prominently or if "Dieversecity posters" are more prominent.

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 03, 2016 6:32 PM  

Because "Fuck White People"

Blogger J Van Stry December 03, 2016 6:35 PM  

I've known this for decades. The Red Cross hasn't been about helping people since, well, i think since before ww2. I've heard horror stories bout them for years. They're all about the power and the money.
Give to the salvation army, they actually help people and aren't in it for the cash.

Anonymous Susan December 03, 2016 6:36 PM  

Salvation Army is the only one who honestly gives the donations to the right people in need. The Red Cross was disgusting during Katrina. The horror stories about them turned many people off forever.

Another good route would to be to check with some of the churches in the area. I am betting they are all set up to either direct donations where they are needed or to take them off your hands.

The Red Cross can rot in hell for all most of us care.

Anonymous Cinco December 03, 2016 6:42 PM  

A good rule of wrist it to only give/work with charities in which you personally know the people running it. There are some excellent charity/non-profits that are very small and do a small amount of good, contrast that with the large ones that only do a small amount of good.

Blogger William Hudson December 03, 2016 6:45 PM  

Thanx to the intertubes, I was alerted to their scamming ways long ago. Never having liked freemasons, I was not shocked to find out that their Shriner's Kids Hospital gets about 10% of donated dollars. The rest goes into booze 'n' hooker party funds for the various lodge brudduhs.

Anonymous Wyrd December 03, 2016 6:49 PM  

The Red Cross was disgusting during Katrina.

Yep, I donated to RC in the aftermath of Katrina. After I found out how the funds were used, I was like Merlin from Excalibur: "Never again! Never!"

Anonymous logprof December 03, 2016 6:49 PM  

Google what the CEOs of the Red Cross, UNICEF, and United Way make.

That should be enough not to give them a bloody cent ever again.

Anonymous digger December 03, 2016 6:51 PM  

So if they are turning away donations that are needed, does that mean they are actively trying to impeed help? Or just trying to discourage nonmonetary help that can't be siphoned off?

The former is a classic Marxist tactic.

Anonymous Silly but True December 03, 2016 6:55 PM  

Red Cross has become large enough and institutionalized enough that it's been able to change its purpose from disaster relief to the business of disasters.

Blogger Achilles December 03, 2016 7:00 PM  

We should start the White Cross. Providing humanitarian aid to people of European descent worldwide.

Anonymous Jacks Carlton December 03, 2016 7:02 PM  

Jazzhands McFeels from Fash The Nation has a gofundme set up to raise money just for these folks: https://www.gofundme.com/appalachian-lives-matter

Blogger Fifty Seven December 03, 2016 7:09 PM  

@14

Raise awareness! Donate to Komen for the Cure!

Blogger The Other Robot December 03, 2016 7:11 PM  

In the good news department, there's this:

Stein drops PA lawsuit for recount and admits to being an idiot.

I might have made that last part up.

Blogger Fifty Seven December 03, 2016 7:17 PM  

@18

That is good news. Reading your link, I'm thinking "Hackers!!!!!!" are going to become the 21st century's 'Wreckers' and 'Agents of the International Bourgeoisie.' That is, assuming they aren't already. I've been behind the times before.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore December 03, 2016 7:17 PM  

Peep this joint. This may be a means by which to donate some shit that bypasses the Red Cross. If you've got the resources then contribute. Spread the word my bruthas!

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/how-to-help-gatlinburg-pigeon-forge-fire-evacuees/357810685

Anonymous kfg December 03, 2016 7:18 PM  

"We should start the White Cross."

That already exists. It's called "Switzerland."

Anonymous The Millennial Falcon December 03, 2016 7:20 PM  

I worked as a fundraiser for a major international charity for 7 years. A very reputable one.

I'll just say there's a LOT more overhead and waste than meets the eye.

Accountability for established charity brands is almost non-existent. And the government has first dibs on most forms of disaster relief, so private charity is kept to the periphery on many occasions unless they are acting as a government contractor.

Just something to keep in mind. I recommend donating locally and earmarking your gifts to the organizations or chapters that you have personally witnessed doing good work.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast December 03, 2016 7:24 PM  

Just looking at what sites like Charity Navigator have to say about them is enough. Every year, my place of work signs up suckers for "auto donations" right from their checks. I don't/haven't/won't donate to any "charity" where the guys in charge get paid better than I do. It's not a charity if the head guys can go out buying themselves boats anytime they feel like it.

Blogger VD December 03, 2016 7:25 PM  

We should start the White Cross. Providing humanitarian aid to people of European descent worldwide.

That's not a bad idea, but the legal venue will need to be chosen carefully.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 03, 2016 7:25 PM  

@5 BigGayKoranBurner:

SO many of these """Charities"""simply don't want white people to benefit from white peoples donations.

I'm sure that true, but the Red Cross also notoriously cheated the Haitians, and if you've ever been there, there's probably few things lower than cheating those desperately poor people. Even the usual suspects such as NPR and The Huffington Post noticed. Although of course no one made a big campaign out of it, which says how important this really is to them.

Blogger Sam Lively December 03, 2016 7:26 PM  

@23

All Charity Navigator can tell you is what they find on the 990s. There's a lot more to accountability than executive compensation.

You can have a great 990 and cheap execs and still waste donor money.

Blogger Fifty Seven December 03, 2016 7:29 PM  

charitynavigator.org

Most of you probably know about them. They post a lot of info on a lot of organizations, including what the man in charge is pulling down.

Anonymous (((Joshua))) December 03, 2016 7:31 PM  

So the consensus is the Salvation Army is good? I saw the guy ringing the bell today, but held back since I don't know much about them.

Anonymous Faceless December 03, 2016 7:39 PM  

I was asked to kindly piss off by the Red Cross when I wrote them a letter once. They told me they believe in inclusivity and not offending people. They do not believe in helping people. They can go get their money from the SJWs.

Anonymous Take The Red Pill December 03, 2016 7:41 PM  

I learned YEARS ago how corrupt the Red Cross was: back during the 80's, '60 Minutes' had a story of how the San Diego chapter of the Red Cross was redirecting funds donated during a series of bad wildfires. Instead of using them to help local victims (as the Red Cross was using them to shill for donations) they redirected those funds to other localities. When confronted with these accusations, the Red Cross Headquarters stonewalled and refused to disclose how the donations were used. They didn't even start to cooperate with how they use their donations until after '60 Minutes' broadcast their story and the Red Cross had a drop in donations.
The United Way and UNICEF are also big fund wasters; I found this out while I was in the military, because it has a big fund-raising drive every year in association with the United Way. A booklet was included with the donation forms, which listed all the charities participating in the drive as well as information about the charity; one of the bits of information that was listed was how much (%) of your donation would actually be received by the 'needy' that the charity was supporting. IT WAS SHOCKING just how little ultimately was received by them -- some were 40% or less! Too many of these 'charities' seem to be interested mainly in supporting themselves first, instead of the 'needy' that they're supposed to serve.
The only large charity that I happily donate to is the Salvation Army (even though I am not a Christian), because I have never heard of them being corrupt and wasteful with their donations.

Anonymous Faceless December 03, 2016 7:41 PM  

@28

It's been about a decade since I researched it, but, at the time, the Salvation Army, although no longer doing any Christian preaching, absolutely put the money to direct use helping people. l give them money in the red kettle. Their CEO made something like $13k a year for a while because he figured he should make the poverty line. They don't waste the money.

Unless I can give to Frankling Graham (and people like Greta van Sustern) at Samaritan's Purse for something, I give to the Salvation Army.

Anonymous BGKB December 03, 2016 7:45 PM  

I'll just say there's a LOT more overhead and waste than meets the eye.

Even the Red Cross isn't bad compared to gay charities. There should be a rule that the treasurer of a charity is subject to random drug tests, and I don't mean how many lines per minute.

I'm sure that true, but the Red Cross also notoriously cheated the Haitians

I have meet charity people at liberal parties before that think hillbillies in WV are more privileged than 6 figure earning affirmative action govt workers & would divert funds if they could. Obama's inauguration party was funded by money stolen from inner city DC kids, for the same reason as Haiti, it was easy to do. Perhaps it would be better to say Hookers/booze/cocaine<-US non whites<- Forign non whites<-tranny hookers/crack,<- white kids. http://www.weeklystandard.com/d.c.-officials-stole-110k-from-childrens-program-to-fund-obama-inaugural-ball/article/972981

The book "Crisis Caravan" written by a foreign aid worker explains how even the few % of dollars donated that make their way into African nations get mostly spent on 5 star hotels and hookers/booze. It also explains many of the disturbing distortions that "charity" has. Warlords will destroy fields and wells in areas they don't control so the charity food they control keeps them in power. They paid more to the tribe that cut off limbs of a rival tribe after putting tourniquets on them for protection money than went to the limb cut off kids used for donations.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast December 03, 2016 7:46 PM  

@26

Yeah, that's why I said it was "enough." Just what is there is all I need to not donate to them. I'm sure there are tons of ways to waste money, but since the RC is doing at least the one way, I don't care to give them anything.

Blogger digra December 03, 2016 7:52 PM  

You can be sure parasites are getting plenty.

Blogger pyrrhus December 03, 2016 7:55 PM  

Don't give them a nickel, the RC's performance in Haiti should have been criminally investigated.

Blogger tz December 03, 2016 7:57 PM  

http://www.theadvocate.com/louisiana_flood_2016/article_59b03594-689f-11e6-bf38-fbc43401d8d9.html

http://ijr.com/2016/08/679542-after-red-cross-tells-off-duty-cop-he-cant-pray-with-flood-victims-he-has-a-poignant-response/

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 03, 2016 8:22 PM  

Susan @8,

Back in the l980's and 1990's I was working in Alexandria, VA and in a position to be around both the United Way people and the Salvation Army people, both whom were headquartered there. I was there for the sunning William Aramony scandal at the United Way (aside: Holy Cow, those Villasor sisters were hot!).

The difference in culture between the two entities could not be more stark. I knew some good people who worked at the United Way, but they weren't the ones in power. The corruption at the top of the United Way was in no way confined to Aramony. It was a corrupt criminal enterprise at the highest levels.

The Salvation Army guys, however, were solid upstanding people up and down, throughout the organization. That's how it was then, at least. If you were corrupt at the SA, you had to hide. If you were corrupt at the UWA, you were in their power set.

Blogger Knight Of the Realm December 03, 2016 8:34 PM  

During the recent flooding in Louisiana the RC threw away almost all the donations by that weren't from their contractors, after this was discovered the donations were routed through local churches.

Blogger Whisker biscuit December 03, 2016 8:36 PM  

Just returned from the Gatlinburg area today. Our church took two truck loads of goods down. We took it directly to the volunteers. There was chatter in the area we were at about the shadyness of the Red Cross.

Some good news is that the area is in good shape all things considered. Many homes were lost, yes. But the tone and attractions are in tact and going to reopen soon.

Blogger mushroom December 03, 2016 8:39 PM  

Yes, this goes at least as far back as WWII. It was notorious among some of the veterans.

Blogger Mr. Buford December 03, 2016 8:40 PM  

My father will never support the RC and because of his experience, neither will I. When I asked him about this as a teenager, he told me that when he was serving as a corpsman during the Korean War he was on the hospital ship, Benevolence when it was rammed in heavy fog and sunk in the San Francisco Bay - http://www.gendisasters.com/california/15046/san-francisco-bay-ca-ship-benevolence-sinking-aug-1950

When he got to shore, after being fished out of the water, he was taken to an RC tent, where he was told that if he wished to have hot coffee, donuts and a blanket he would have to pay for these items. When he pointed out that he had no money as he had just come from recently bobbing in the water, the RC staffer simply said, 'sorry, if you can't pay, you can't have anything.' A friend found him and took him to the Salvation Army tent where he was fed warm food and given dry clothes. Since that day, I have never supported the RC and if asked why, I relate my father's experience which quickly ends the conversation.

Blogger Ty December 03, 2016 8:54 PM  

Three of my great uncles were infantrymen in WW2. None of them had any use for the Red Cross. They did have good things to say about the Salvation Army though. I can't recall the reasons why, though.

Blogger Ty December 03, 2016 8:55 PM  

Mr. Buford, I remember now. This is what my great-uncles said as well.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr December 03, 2016 8:58 PM  

Yup. The Salvation Army has long been the gold standard of charities. They don't waste donations.

If Trump wanted to score points, charity reform would be a good place.

Blogger Lazarus December 03, 2016 9:13 PM  

Achilles wrote:We should start the White Cross. Providing humanitarian aid to people of European descent worldwide.

Islam has the Red Crescent Society and Israel has Magen David Adom. If the Red Cross is considered converged, there are up to 18 other Christian symbols to consider, like Chi-Rho, Fish, Dove, etc:

Christianity Symbols Illustrated Glossary

Blogger Tina December 03, 2016 9:16 PM  

When President Trump takes office, I hope we can get attention to removing the "progressive" laws that require "Waiting for authorized trained professionals" and prohibit citizens from helping each other or from assisting with evacuations and rescues. In Louisiana floods, the govt turned back the Cajun Navy because they weren't "authorized". Red Cross's scam includes "volunteer training", naturally. In Tennessee Red Cross has stated "We are not accepting "in kind" donations of goods, nor are we seeking untrained volunteers."

OpenID frankluke December 03, 2016 9:17 PM  

I used to work for Assemblies of God World Missions. They had a rule that 95% of the donations went to the missionaries (5% retained for administrative cost). That's far and above most charities.

Blogger Tina December 03, 2016 9:18 PM  

ooops, meant to post this link - it has lots of local organizations that are much more likely to put donations to use genuinely helping people. http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/29/gatlintburg-pigeon-forge-fires-how-help/94592030/

Blogger SteelPalm December 03, 2016 9:22 PM  

I have known that the Red Cross was SJW-converged for a long time.

For instance, in Israel, they openly favor Fakestinian jihadis over their Jewish civilian victims when both are wounded;

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/203556#.VkwCknarTIU

In fact, they're closely aligned with and support the "Red Crescent", the Death Cult variant.

They also have a habit of throwing out donations that they can't get credit for (as in the story Vox posted above) as well as spending large sums of donations on "internal expenses", and then lying about it to congressional investigators, a fact even NPR notes;

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/16/482020436/senators-report-finds-fundamental-concerns-about-red-cross-finances

To be fair, they're still not as bad as Doctors Without Borders.

Blogger Tina December 03, 2016 9:30 PM  

I want to add my voice of personal experience to praise the Salvation Army. In 2003, Hurricane Claudette went right over our house. Many of our neighbors lost their homes or were flooded out & the VFD was turned into a shelter. That was a "surprise" storm that wasn't supposed to cause much damage. Within 36 hours, the Salvation Army food truck showed up in our little 100 house town. and served 3 hot meals a day to all comers, every day until power was restored a week later. They REFUSED all donations- would not take a dime from any of us. Told us to put it in the red kettles at Christmas. Red Cross never showed up in our town, we never saw hide nor hair of them. Salvation Army is the only national charity we still give to.

Blogger bornagainpenguin December 03, 2016 9:34 PM  

Achilles wrote:We should start the White Cross. Providing humanitarian aid to people of European descent worldwide.

That's what the Citizens Assisting Citizens (see CACTEAM.COM) was supposed to be when originally proposed by Jack Spirko of The Survival Podcast as the TSP Disaster Response Team, the former name of it. He'd done a show on the disaster in East Coast a few years ago where he mentioned some of the dirty dealing of the Red Cross in that disaster and proposed a volunteer group which could head to places hit by disasters with supplies after the fact and coordinate with people who already live in the area. It's been a while since I heard the show so I apologize if I get any details wrong, I'm going from memory.

Any way there really hasn't been much news about that organization lately but the site's still there and I imagine if a bunch of people were willing to show up and start shoveling the gravel they'd appreciate the help. It'd be better (easier) than starting fresh and trying to build yet another new organization depending on why it's gone inactive.

Just a thought.

Anonymous Goodnight December 03, 2016 9:37 PM  

If the Red Cross is considered converged, there are up to 18 other Christian symbols to consider, like Chi-Rho, Fish, Dove, etc.

While overseas about 10 years ago I was told that the Chi-Rho was heavily used by Christian militant groups. They told me that if you were Hindu or Muslim and went into an area with Chi-Rhos painted everywhere that you'd better get out quick.

I kind of thought that was fitting since that's what Constantine had his legions paint on their shields at the Milvian Bridge.

Blogger James Dixon December 03, 2016 9:48 PM  

> Google what the CEOs of the Red Cross, UNICEF, and United Way make.

Simply google United Way scandal and see how many hits you get. None of the major combined charity organizations are worth the powder to blow them to hell.

Blogger Harold December 03, 2016 9:48 PM  

BigGayKoranBurner
....Stop by your local blood donor center to see if they still have the 5-10-15 gallon donor pictures prominently or if "Dieversecity posters" are more prominent.


I've mentioned several times in the comment section of several blogs that our local Red Cross took the multi-gallon donor pictures down. Ours started at 10, and went 15, 20. There were a very few women in the 10 gallon category. All the 15/20's were male. All the 10 gallon and up donors were white. In a city with a black population of about 30%.

The posters on the wall of happy blood donors are conspicuously lacking white males, who are the vast majority of blood donors I see when I'm donating. I would donate blood elsewhere, but there is no elsewhere locally to donate.

Blogger Nate December 03, 2016 9:51 PM  

As you can imagine I have a lot of friends and contacts up there. I've gotten conflicting reports. Some saying they have to much stuff and no where to put it and no way to distribute (oddly that's what the Red Cross is actually for) and other reports that they are in dire straits and need everything.

It sounds to me like the Red Cross is screwing up the logistics... which is really the only thing they are needed for.

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid December 03, 2016 9:55 PM  

The United Methodist Church is mostly converged above the parish level, but AFAIK, the United Methodist Committee on Relief is still pretty good. I also give to Salvation Army; my uncle was an alcoholic- a bum, really- but they always had food for him, and they spread God's word.

Blogger Robert What? December 03, 2016 10:02 PM  

Also never donate to Good Will. They do absolutely nothing except pay their executives huge salaries. It is a complete scam.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 03, 2016 10:43 PM  

OT, word on the Italian vote?

Anonymous Ultradimensional Longboats of Deplorable Spartacus December 03, 2016 10:55 PM  

Mr. Buford wrote:

When he got to shore, after being fished out of the water, he was taken to an RC tent, where he was told that if he wished to have hot coffee, donuts and a blanket he would have to pay for these items. When he pointed out that he had no money as he had just come from recently bobbing in the water, the RC staffer simply said, 'sorry, if you can't pay, you can't have anything.'


I heard a story just like this from my ancestors. During the WWII Allied invasion of Europe, Red Cross tents were set up just behind the front lines, like right on the beaches. The rest of the story is identical to your version.

Anonymous Avalanche December 03, 2016 11:01 PM  

OT: Dark Lord, did you not announce an interview with Richard Spencer? Was it canceled? I've been checking the NPI site, and ... no mention?

Anonymous dtungsten December 03, 2016 11:03 PM  

Woah, my dad used to work for the Red Cross. He got laid off this past summer, though.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY December 03, 2016 11:04 PM  

The Salvation Army is a great charity to give money to. Drop some in that Red Kettle this holiday season, people. I'm not a Catholic , but I also give to ST. Vincent De Paul , another great charity . The Red Cross can stuff it.

Anonymous Johnny Caustic December 03, 2016 11:05 PM  

Stein drops PA lawsuit for recount

No, the election steal is still ongoing, and looking increasingly likely to succeed. Stein is switching to a precinct-by-precinct strategy of vote forgery in PA. Details here:

http://82.221.129.208/
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/no-pennsylvania-recount-effort-isnt-yes-mainstream-media-lying/359/

For a description of how they're replacing ballots with forgeries:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/i-think-we-caught-election-fraud-in-pennsylvania/

If you're in PA, MI, WI, or now perhaps FL or NV, get yourself into those recounts if possible! Or soon we'll have an unexpected president and find out why America built so many FEMA camps.

Blogger Kristophr December 03, 2016 11:05 PM  

The Red Cross in China is mostly dead these days.

A two bit mistress bragged about her sugar daddy on the internet, and she got hit with a uniquely chinese phenomenon, the "flesh search". People started asking on chinese social media who this bragging little idiot was, and someone in that huge population identified her. Then her boyfriend was identified: A top official in the China Red Cross.

Then it all hit the fan.

http://www.thenational.ae/world/east-asia/charity-scandal-rocks-chinas-red-cross

Five years later, that organization gets almost no donations in China.

Anonymous BGKB December 03, 2016 11:07 PM  

Christian symbols to consider, like Chi-Rho, Fish, Dove, etc:

Lesbians on the rag already claimed the red fish.

Stein is switching to a precinct-by-precinct strategy of vote forgery in PA. Details here:

Are they still just doing it in Philly and ignoring the rest of the state for recount?

Anonymous BGKB December 03, 2016 11:13 PM  

Oy Vey from the voter fraud link
"I think we caught election fraud in Pennsylvania…by IWB · December 3, 2016

Here are the final certified results. Here is an archive for the counts with 70 precincts yet to report.

There is a huge anomaly hiding in these numbers. Notice in the same time Donald lost 14,000 votes, Pat Toomey (R) gained 4,000 votes. In the final figures, 61,049 more people voted for president than voted in the Senate election. In the figures archived, 80,017 more people voted for president than voted in the Senate election. There were about 6.1 million ballots cast in total. About 250,000 votes came in with the final 70 precincts. Out of those, either 7.5% more ballots had no vote for president than had no vote for the Senate, or they edited the ballots to remove Presidential votes. In 70 precincts out of 9,163, they literally removed 25% of the difference between the Senate vote totals and the Presidential vote totals. They aren’t stuffing ballots! They’re replacing the ballots with forgeries! The only way that differential could decrease in the final tally is if, at a minimum 18,968 ballots were changed…"

Anonymous Ultradimensional Longboats of Deplorable Spartacus December 03, 2016 11:20 PM  

Mr. Buford wrote:When he got to shore, after being fished out of the water, he was taken to an RC tent, where he was told that if he wished to have hot coffee, donuts and a blanket he would have to pay for these items.

You made me remember some more about the old stories. The Red Cross in their tents on the beaches of Normandy would charge 10 cents for a hot coup of coffee, twice the going rate back home. It was like a crony-concession booth at a state fair.

Where the Army is, prices are high
Where prices rise, the wealth of the people is exhausted
When the wealth is exhausted, the peasants will be afflicted with urgent exactions
-Sun Tsu (loose translation and partly from memory)

So the business model for the Red Cross is the camp follower. https://infogalactic.com/info/Camp_follower

Anonymous Lawyer Guy December 03, 2016 11:20 PM  

The Red Cross has always been evil.

I was an young Marine in the 80s, the RC always demanded money to allow a guy to go home to see his mother or wife die, and the old timers would tell us they had been doing that since WWII.

Fuckem. I have never helped them since

Anonymous Dave December 03, 2016 11:33 PM  

Arthur Isaac wrote:OT, word on the Italian vote?

Supposedly media comments are banned until the polls are closed 2200 GMT on Sunday.

Anonymous Ultradimensional Longboats of Deplorable Spartacus December 03, 2016 11:39 PM  

Kristophr wrote:The Red Cross in China is mostly dead these days.

A two bit mistress bragged about her sugar daddy...

Five years later, that organization gets almost no donations in China.


So the Red Cross in China was afflicted with urgent exactions in due course after all. A happy ending, thanks!

Blogger doug whiddon December 03, 2016 11:40 PM  

I've mentioned this before. My grandfather hated the RC ever since WWII because when he got home from Europe they set up a tent at the docks and were SELLING coffee to returning vets (who mostly had no money).

They have always been shitlords.

Anonymous kfg December 04, 2016 12:01 AM  

And finding out that a batch of real NAZIs had escaped to Argentina, and how they managed it, didn't exactly endear the RC to vets either.

Or Jews. Or Roma. Or . . .

I've been surprised by "The Red Cross is shit and converged" stories, because I thought people had already figured that out many moons ago.

I think the last time they did something decent was the Johnstown Flood. That was in 1889.

OK, yeah, consulting the Planetary Knowledge Core I find:

"[Clara Barton] was forced out in 1904, when professional social work experts took control and made it a model of Progressive Era scientific reform."

It ain't just "converged," it's been a core element of The Revolution for more than a century.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot December 04, 2016 12:19 AM  

And here's how it's properly done ...

Dolly Parton's Dollywood Foundation is stepping in to provide $1000 per family burnt out by the fires for up to six months.

Here are the details from Knoxville's WATE channel 6 TV:
http://wate.com/2016/11/30/dollywood-foundation-to-give-1000-per-month-to-gatlinburg-wildfire-families/

But yes, if you think this part of the American Red Cross is dishonest, what they do with blood donations is outright scumbaggery.

ProPublica --
"The Red Cross CEO has been serially misleading about where donors' dollars are going":
https://www.propublica.org/article/red-cross-ceo-has-been-misleading-about-donations

Here's a selected money quote (pun intended):

"Most of what the Red Cross does is take donated blood and sell it to health care providers. Of the more than $3 billion that the Red Cross spent last year, two-thirds was spent not on disaster relief but rather on the group's blood business. The charity spent $2.2 billion on the blood business, most of which went to employee wages and benefits. By contrast, the charity spent $467 million, or 14 percent of total spending, on its famous domestic disaster response programs, including the expensive Sandy relief effort."

Finally, just to make the point everyone else seems to be making:

"This is part of an ongoing investigation: Red Cross --
How one of the country's most venerated charities has failed disaster victims, broken promises and made dubious claims of success."

If they were any more converged and corrupt, there'd be a Clinton family member running the operation.

Anonymous Deplorable S E Delenda December 04, 2016 12:24 AM  

Here is the ugly reality of charities. If there is an event that occurs shakes the tree and you donate without specifying the use of the donation (an unrestricted donation); they are free to use it as they see fit.

If you specify the use (a donor imposed restriction); they are obligated to respect donor intent.

Of course, questioning Red Cross expenditures is nothing new; after 9-11, they set up a "liberty fund" that was set up in response to the attacks; but donation to this fund were not technically donor restricted funds, and political pressure forced then President Bernadine Healy to resign.

Big Charity is quite frankly, the closest approximation to the left's portrayal of unaccountable private power; it's extraordinary difficult to measure results of expenditures, donors are often small, with no incentive or power to question the use of their donations; as is the case with government-huge piles of money attract SJWs.

Anonymous Dave December 04, 2016 12:33 AM  

@BGKB -thought Stein got $7M in donations for recount now she won't pay $1M bond to continue statewide PA challenge >

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein ended her statewide recount effort in Pennsylvania on Saturday after a Commonwealth Court judge mandated that the 100 voters who brought the suit on the campaign's behalf post a $1 million bond to press on with the challenge.

In court documents filed shortly before 5 p.m., an attorney for the Stein campaign wrote: "Petitioners are regular citizens of ordinary means. They cannot afford to post the $1,000,000 bond required by the Court."

The abrupt halt to the campaign's effort comes less than one week after Stein asked a Pennsylvania court to approve a statewide recount, contending the Nov. 8 election was "illegal" and the results inaccurate.

A second recount effort in the state - a county-by-county attempt - is still alive.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/20161204_Jill_Stein_campaign_drops_recount_effort_in_Pa_.html

Blogger Johnny December 04, 2016 12:36 AM  

Some time ago there was a local lottery with the Red Cross the beneficiary of the surplus funds. I am unfamiliar with the details, but what was notable was that the winners of the lottery were the people connected with the lottery. The usual, once money is no longer in that hands of of those who had to labor to produce it, the money tends to get wasted or pilfered in one manner or another.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot December 04, 2016 12:41 AM  

William Hudson @10:

Brother William, when we get back to Hahira, you are OUT of the Shrine ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO_tXzeiZAQ

:-)

Blogger EscapeVelocity December 04, 2016 12:43 AM  

Stopped long ago.

The Salvation Army is a better route, if imperfect.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 04, 2016 12:54 AM  

My mother-in-law used to work at the Salvation Army.

The thing to remember is that Salvation Army is a church, a relict of the 19th century "muscular Christianity" movement. A full-fledged church, with chapels, ministers, services, cllege, seminary, etc. It is descended from Methodism and bears a lot of resemblance. Like other Christian groups founded at that time, like YMCA and YWCA, it has fully converged in the offices. Unlike those organizations, it still retains a religious mission, although no less Churchian than most mainline churches these days.

The Army thing is real too. The managers are given para-military ranks.

They do take their mission seriously, The money actually goes to helping people. If you genuinely need help, they find a way.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 04, 2016 12:59 AM  

Oh, and Catholics, DO NOT GIVE MONEY TO CATHOLIC RELIEF SERVICES. It is fully converged. One chapter was recently found to be funnelling money to an abortion clinic. In some (not all) areas, they are one of the groups bringing in refugees to blight the community.
As Mr mOSBY says, St. Vincent De Paul does great work, on a shoestring budget, and really helps people in genuine need. They tend more towards drug rehab than disaster relief.

Blogger Martin December 04, 2016 2:51 AM  

NGOs are very corruptible since they are always looking for donations. When the banker money shows up they find it very hard to turn it away. And before long, they are just clients.

Anonymous Swed December 04, 2016 3:46 AM  

The American branch of the Salvation Army might be trustworthy; no way for me to know. And the Swedish branch of the Salvation Army might have very low administrative overhead. But they spend their money on the foreign invaders. The white homeless have been abandoned by all big charities and government organizations.

Blogger James Dixon December 04, 2016 6:28 AM  

> Also never donate to Good Will.

The only thing Good Will is good for is getting used items back into the community for people who can use them. That's better done through churches, but that's not always an option.

Anonymous SugarPi December 04, 2016 7:39 AM  

Keep spreading this message... nothing new. I had an uncle who served in WWII and remember his accounts of the Red Cross SELLING coffee and doughnuts to soldiers in the field. Then I married a Viet Nam veteran and heard similar stories.

Blogger Rantor December 04, 2016 7:53 AM  

I have a friend who is the pastor of St Paul Lutheran Church (LCMS) in Sevierville TN, he has the following recommendations for contributions. Sevierville is a small town near Pigeon Forge. He will make sure funds are used properly.

Funds: if you are interested in sending funds to help families in need send the funds to St Paul Lutheran Church 1610 Pullen Rd, Sevierville TN 37862 and designate the funds for Gatlinburg relief effort.

Blogger William Hudson December 04, 2016 8:18 AM  

@76 Thanks for the laugh, Post Alley Crackpot. I hadn't seen that one in years! That's okay, tho', the "Angels" are waiting for me with a brand new "Gold Wing".
:)~

Anonymous Lawyer Guy December 04, 2016 8:22 AM  

I think most Vets know the Red Cross is evil. We all saw too many guys get screwed while the RC money grubbed.

I will never donate to them, even before the 9/11 donation scandal.

Anonymous Avalanche December 04, 2016 8:25 AM  

@73 "Big Charity is quite frankly, the closest approximation to the left's portrayal of unaccountable private power"

Not entirely "private" power, since the govt is up to its metaphorical eyebrows in it! Back when I was in the Navy, the United Way had a big 'govt' drive every year. As a junior officer, I often got 'stuck with ' running the drive for the command. Part of mt FITNESS REPORT included how I had done extorting money from young sailors/families who actually qualified for food stamps! (This was back in the late '70s/early '80s.)

When I TRF to another command, and some other poor fool was stuck with the job, I would donate $20, because you were judged on amount of $$ -- and if you could strong-arm EVERYONE into donating ("participation" -- but no trophy!). Didn't want to hurt a fellow sailor -- did NOT want to support United Way!

Anonymous Pennywise December 04, 2016 10:11 AM  

Absolutely give to the Red Cross.

Blogger Unknown December 04, 2016 11:20 AM  

Heard same thing while I was on active duty. The Red Cross actually increases advertising during disasters and then uses money elsewhere. Heard Salvation Army is pretty good but cannot confirm.

Anonymous BGKB December 04, 2016 11:49 AM  

TIMMY COOK is in on the action https://www.propublica.org/article/apple-others-help-customers-donate-to-red-cross-and-only-red-cross

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 04, 2016 6:37 PM  

Pennywise wrote:Absolutely give to the Red Cross.
Why? So they can spend the money buying themselves nice things? So the CEO can buy another boat?

OpenID notebuyer December 04, 2016 7:35 PM  

Lions Clubs have a fund in process to benefit Gatlinburg. There is no overhead and all the money goes to people who need it in the area.

https://www.gofundme.com/lions-clubs-help-gatlinburg

Anonymous Pennywise December 05, 2016 9:55 PM  

"Why? So they can spend the money buying themselves nice things? So the CEO can buy another boat?"

The Red Cross has observably done more good with their resources over the decades. Get over yourself.

We. Don't. Care.

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