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Friday, December 09, 2016

Dutch court convicts Geert Wilders



"You will not succeed in silencing me and defeating the PVV. Support for the party of freedom is stronger than ever and is growing every day. The Dutch want their country back!"

I suspect those eurofascists are going to be sincerely regretting their reprehensible and anti-democartic once the Dutch people put the PVV in power and Wilders becomes the Prime Minister. Never forget, if they can ban our speech, we can ban their speech. And if they do ban our speech, it is incumbent upon us to return the favor, with interest.

Feminism is hate speech.
Multiculturalism is hate speech.
Diversity is hate speech.
Equality is hate speech.

The Wilders conviction was quite literally a show trial. Every newspaper and government agency in the USA could be convicted of "insulting a group and inciting discrimination".
Dutch anti-Islam political leader Geert Wilders has been convicted of insulting a group and inciting discrimination. But no penalty was imposed by the court near Amsterdam on Wilders, whose party is leading in polls ahead of parliamentary elections in March. Wilders was also acquitted of inciting hate over telling supporters in March 2014 he would ensure there were fewer Moroccans in the Netherlands.

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Blogger RmaxGenactivePUA Mgtow December 09, 2016 7:14 AM  

What about religions which promote multiculturalism & the global wide destruction of race & their pagan religions, such as islam, judaism & christianity?

OpenID basementhomebrewer December 09, 2016 7:14 AM  

This is where the left is unprepared. They are used to fighting the clueless cucks who will whine about free speech while their rights are taken away. When the cucks get power all they do is roll back 60% of what the left did and take no action against the left.

The Alt-right is going to try to roll back everything the left has done every chance they get. Then they are going to take the crucial step of inflicting pain on the left by using their own concepts against them. They have already provided plenty of examples of their side speaking hatefully about Cis White Males and taking violent action against them. This is the only way to get the left to understand that reducing the power of the government is a good idea.

OpenID basementhomebrewer December 09, 2016 7:17 AM  

RmaxGenactivePUA Mgtow wrote:What about religions which promote multiculturalism & the global wide destruction of race & their pagan religions, such as islam, judaism & christianity?

Implementing "hate speech laws" to target hate speech against Western values takes care of that. It also has the benefit of not targeting pro-western Christian sects while eliminating the anti-western ones.

Blogger Sherwood family December 09, 2016 7:20 AM  

"If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Anonymous Philipp December 09, 2016 7:20 AM  

"At a campaign meeting, he asked supporters whether they wanted "fewer or more Moroccans in your city and in the Netherlands". When the crowd Shouted back "Fewer! Fewer!" a smiling Wilders responded: "We're going to take care of that." At the trial, prosecutors took testimony from Dutch-Moroccans who said his comments made them feel like "third-rate citizens"."

So according to these judges it is racist now to want fewer Moroccans in the Netherlands.

Do these idiots or ideologues know that continued mass migration from non-Western countries into Europe will lead to war - civil war, religious war, race war?

Great to see that Geert Wilders will not be silenced.

Anonymous Yann December 09, 2016 7:21 AM  

Funny thing, I was wondering what would happen if Trump would apply hate speech and diversity laws against SJW.

Feminism? Hate speech against males.
Multiculturalism? Hate speech against whites.

Diversity laws? A company must have racial ratios according to population demographics? Fine, let's apply to political rations. If 50% of America is republican, shouldn't University stuff have a 50% ratio of right-winged professors?. That being fascism? Not at all, I'm sorry, just diversity laws. You made them. Now enjoy them.

Blogger VD December 09, 2016 7:22 AM  

What about religions which promote multiculturalism & the global wide destruction of race & their pagan religions, such as islam, judaism & christianity?

They don't. Stop lying.

Blogger VD December 09, 2016 7:24 AM  

Do these idiots or ideologues know that continued mass migration from non-Western countries into Europe will lead to war - civil war, religious war, race war?

Who cares. Stop wondering about them and get ready.

Anonymous Jamie December 09, 2016 7:33 AM  

5. Phillipp:

The Moroccans in the Netherlands should not feel like "third-class citizens". They shouldn't feel like citizens of the Netherlands at all. They should be first-class citizens of Morocco.

Anonymous Philipp December 09, 2016 7:38 AM  

@9: Jamie

You are right. That's exactly what they should do.

Anonymous Difster December 09, 2016 7:47 AM  

Morocco for Moroccans. Help them be patriots by repatriating them. Somalis for Somalia, Syrians for Syria, etc.

Anonymous Moonbear December 09, 2016 8:01 AM  

Is there a way for us to friendly remind them they are indeed traitors to the people of Europe?

Blogger Benjamin Kraft December 09, 2016 8:13 AM  

@12. Only by ensuring they are tried, sentenced, and punished as traitors.

Blogger Raggededge December 09, 2016 8:17 AM  

They played right into Wilders hands on this one. They found him not guilty of hate-speech and his "sentence" for this conviction is 5000 Euros. If they were trying to slow Wilders movement, this is the exact opposite way to do it. I thought this was telling:

...the verdict was read by the chief judge, Hendrik Steenhuis, at a secured courtroom on a military base near Schiphol Airport...

Exactly who are they afraid of? This decision will be extremely unpopular with the Dutch and Gilders will be their next Prime Minister.

Blogger Twisted Root December 09, 2016 8:26 AM  

'Condemnation is sentence enough,' the court said. Not enough to disguise their weakness.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 09, 2016 8:40 AM  

These Left Cultists double-down simply by screaming their catechism louder every time someone simply points to one of the many disasters their beliefs produce. We've gone from "politely" calling people mean or vicious to shrieking "Nazi, Nazi!" at even those who simply don't want to keep marching into the sewer promised by continued observance of the Cult's religious tenets.

The longer this Cult remains in power, the more deluded become its zealots. It never seems to occur to them (even after Trump's election, Brexit, Italy's "no," etc.) that the backlash they are fomenting will put their asses in the fire.

People really do go mad on the road to their self-destruction.

Blogger ZhukovG December 09, 2016 8:51 AM  

The 'Globalist Elite',like their Father Below, are foolish; they are not stupid. They know precisely what their actions will bring about. They just believe that whatever the outcome, they will win.

We must, after our victory, root them out and confiscate all that they own. Show them no mercy, for they will show you none.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 09, 2016 8:51 AM  

Huh. So, the EU is officially dead in the water then if the criminalize opinion and dissent.

VD wrote:Do these idiots or ideologues know that continued mass migration from non-Western countries into Europe will lead to war - civil war, religious war, race war?

Who cares. Stop wondering about them and get ready.


Precisely right. TPTB's behavior shows they know what they're doing. I long ago gave up any misgivings that Commies or Muzzies are merely ignorant.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 09, 2016 8:54 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:The longer this Cult remains in power, the more deluded become its zealots. It never seems to occur to them (even after Trump's election, Brexit, Italy's "no," etc.) that the backlash they are fomenting will put their asses in the fire.

People really do go mad on the road to their self-destruction.


I hate to say it, but the cuck/SJW/muzzie issue will likely get violent sooner than later. They're overconfident, feel threatened, imbued with hubris, and full of self-loathing. Low IQ, angry, jealous weirdos.

They're a combination of stupid, ruthless, and clever - which is the most dangerous mix.

Blogger Kona Commuter December 09, 2016 8:59 AM  

The pushback is going to be horrendous.

Blogger Kona Commuter December 09, 2016 8:59 AM  

Horrendous and livestreamed

Blogger tuberman December 09, 2016 9:05 AM  

There is a kind of Law.... "There will be unintended consequences," or watch them reap what they sow.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 09, 2016 9:05 AM  

Horrendous and hopefully hilarious.

Video of SJW getting KTFO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8y9qLwTmEQ

Article source, via Jim Goad:
http://takimag.com/article/decking_the_red_whale_jim_goad#axzz4SLjWY8B0

Blogger Melampus the Seer December 09, 2016 9:20 AM  

Reprisals. Now.

Blogger tuberman December 09, 2016 9:25 AM  

There is a kind of Law.... "There will be unintended consequences," or watch them reap what they sow.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 09, 2016 9:26 AM  

@19 I hate to say it, but the cuck/SJW/muzzie issue will likely get violent sooner than later. They're overconfident, feel threatened, imbued with hubris, and full of self-loathing. Low IQ, angry, jealous weirdos.

They're a combination of stupid, ruthless, and clever - which is the most dangerous mix.


Add crushing, bitter disappointment in their Kingdom-of-Heaven-on-Earth. What happens when you raise a very large dog, give it everything it wants, teach it to be hyper-aggressive and then one day you take away the bone it was chewing?

We have a world chock full of perpetual adolescents, spoiled rotten by the illusion of unlimited resources, utterly ignorant of the process by which necessities, comforts and toys are produced, and accustomed to appeasement at every tantrum.

When the illusion bubble pops and NOTHING is appeased, the resulting cataclysm is as predictable as is gravity. There's a reason the Zombie genre is so popular, and many people are still stocking up on AR15's and 5.56 ammo.

Fear is palpable.

Anonymous ogunsiron December 09, 2016 9:42 AM  

Does anyone know who organized the mass migration of berber moroccans to the Netherlands and Belgium ? I'm wondering if it's the same kind of "dutch" people who made a whole lot of money in the slave trade of africans. I'm thinking that it may have been a joint venture between ((( dutch ))) and ((( moroccans ))).

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr December 09, 2016 9:45 AM  

Rejoice, for SJW Hunting Season is just about to open! No bag limit, either.

And I sincerely hope that President Trump will hit the lying Propaganda Press HARD. In particular, he can start revoking broadcast licenses...which will crush the broadcast TV networks. Which are the #1 channel for Leftist lies.

Blogger Gordon December 09, 2016 9:48 AM  

As Glenn Reynolds has pointed out, the progressives spent the past eight years weaponizing the federal government. They will reap the whirlwind.

Anonymous BGKB December 09, 2016 10:13 AM  

They always think they will be the commissar never the body in the ditch.

The Moroccans in the Netherlands should not feel like "third-class citizens". They should feel like 3rd world citizens living on welfare better than even the 1% can live in a nation filled with people like them.

Blogger osm December 09, 2016 10:36 AM  

Why was he speaking in English?

Anonymous EH December 09, 2016 10:39 AM  

If Africans and Muslims or their descendants are allowed to stay in European countries for another decade, European genetics will be mingled and will cease to exist as a separate entity as those foreign genes continue to spread in the population. Whites will cease to exist as a separate entity within a generation or two, which is genocide. The more foreigners and the longer they stay, the quicker that genocide will happen. The continued existence of that genetic heritage is the common property of the White race, no sub-group such as the Dutch or the Swedes has the right to allow or commit such genocide against their own heritage, because that heritage is part of the common heritage of all Whites. But the genocidal leftists will continue on their path until forced to stop, which means that the US and Russia are the only powerful nations left who might stop the genocide. All White-led nations will have to expel non-Whites, impose strict anti-miscegenation laws, and do the same for the European nations regardless of governments' or popular opinions. Any compromise means that the best part of humanity's genetics, which took thousands of years to arise will be erased, so there can be no compromise.

The US will have to go to war to expel the invaders from Europe. The stakes of that war will not just be the genocide of the European peoples, but the invaders' peoples as well, for they cannot be allowed to make more attempts at genocide without the risk that they will someday succeed. As death is the penalty for murder, so genocide for genocide, and that particularly extends to the people that induced and sustained the invasion of Europe.

This war is unavoidable at this point, even by submitting to the invaders, a policy which will only make war worse when it finally arrives. Every political action has to keep this in mind - don't get sidetracked by lesser concerns, SJW concerns - war is coming!

Blogger VFM #7634 December 09, 2016 10:54 AM  

Wear your convict status as a badge of honor, Mr. Wilders.

Anonymous Deplorable S E Delenda December 09, 2016 10:55 AM  

"First, kill all the lawyers."

Blogger pyrrhus December 09, 2016 11:05 AM  

Wasn't Hitler jailed for awhile in the early '20s? And wasn't Gandhi jailed for most of WWII by the British? Heh....

Anonymous Dan December 09, 2016 11:09 AM  

Will they put him in jail with the morrocans?

Anonymous Dan December 09, 2016 11:10 AM  

Will they put him in jail with the morrocans?

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 09, 2016 11:15 AM  

Even if the PVV manages to win an election, the mandarins of the EUSSR's Netherlands Okrug will continue to double-down. Merkel was just annointed head of her cuck-party in the German Okrug the other day. The Dutch are not voting their way out of the genocide. Neither are the Germans, the French, the English, the Spanish, the Italians or any other nominal country who handed its sovereignty over to the (((Banksteins))) who run the EUSSR. People need to stop deluding themselves. If Trump is even for real - which is looking more questionable with each cabinet pick - he will have his hands full just staying in office. Time will tell.

The US is in no position to go to war to expel the invaders. We have our own invaders - who (as VD as pointed out) comprise a greater percentile of the population occupying the USA landmass than the invaders of Europe do. Putin is likewise in no position to do this job. The best he'll be able to do is provide arms for a real resistance who is willing to spill the blood of traitors, cucks, invaders and the (((genociders))) without any hesitation whatsoever. Every group listed fully deserves the punishment.

Blogger Orlando Wan December 09, 2016 11:30 AM  

The stakes continue rise in quantums everyday and there is only one way that this is going to come to and end.

Blogger Nick S December 09, 2016 11:39 AM  

Equality is fake news hate speech.

Anonymous Kent DeVry December 09, 2016 11:43 AM  

Wilders has lost FOUR elections in a row.

The Dutch DO NOT WANT HIM

YOU GUYS HAVE LOST

GET OVER IT

Islam is the future. Multiculturalism is the future. Diversity is the future.

GET USED TO IT

Blogger wreckage December 09, 2016 11:47 AM  

"Islam is the future. Multiculturalism is the future. Diversity is the future."

Good luck making point one and point three work together. I'll be over here with a beer, watching the Muslims hang the Diverse from lamp-posts.

You people really do choose the weirdest delusions.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 09, 2016 11:53 AM  

wreckage wrote:"Islam is the future. Multiculturalism is the future. Diversity is the future."

Good luck making point one and point three work together. I'll be over here with a beer, watching the Muslims hang the Diverse from lamp-posts.

You people really do choose the weirdest delusions.


I think it was Jim Goad who called this "Passover Syndrome" - the idea that the people who hate you and want you dead will not hate you or kill you because you said you supported them.

I almost wonder if it's not delusion and just some sort of weird cuck suicide wish?

Anonymous Mark Auld December 09, 2016 11:57 AM  

If Wilders wins,and Merkle loses,there is hope.If not,the deluge.

Blogger Wrangler December 09, 2016 12:04 PM  

Long past the reasonable stage. Europe will become a caliphate, or there will be civil war to restore the native peoples. USA needs to learn from this while we still have choices.

Blogger André Sanchez December 09, 2016 12:05 PM  

@2 A great analogy I heard recently is that the left drives the car, and the right fixes the engine every once in a while. That is what happens when you buy into the myth of political and ideological pluralism, the uniparty splits into an ideologue wing and a practical wing, and people who are fundamentaly opposed to the uniparty think the practical wing of the party is the opposition.

Blogger Jack Ward December 09, 2016 12:07 PM  

@14
I wonder if the judge, chief judge, Hendrik Steenhuis, may not be a secret supporter or lieutenant of Wilders? This 'judgement' seems to be all too convenient for Wilders. And, all it cost his party was eu 5000. That publicity, which surely will inflame the loyal even more, could not be purchased at any price.
Once Wilders is elected we may know. If the Chief Judge is given a high government post, then, we will know. Regardless, well played.

Blogger Jack Ward December 09, 2016 12:16 PM  

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Blogger Jack Ward December 09, 2016 12:22 PM  

Lets try that again with less embarrassing typos, shall I?
Russia and the USA may yet be united in a common cause, a la Victoria, the novel. I've read that thing several times now and its not getting old. May be time for another read. I'll bet good money that Putin has read a translation. More than once. His people read our internet commentary. That have to be doing that. And, when the likes of the Ilk and others indirectly and directly praise Putin and Russia they have to be smiling. Particularly with the election results. Trump could do worse than ask his new, possible brother in arms, Putin, for some Spetsnaz vets for additions to his security detail. I know, that would Trump would care. He could offer to trade Putin, for a rotating assignment of the assigned personnel, 20 of his secret service for 20 spetsnaz. All in the interest of international relations or some such you see.

Blogger Jack Ward December 09, 2016 12:24 PM  

That should read, be a hot potatoe, doubt Trump would care.
Gosh, I think I will quite commenting now and go split some wood for the stove.

Anonymous #8601 December 09, 2016 12:51 PM  

I'm half Dutch. The tall, blonde, blued eyed half. Not the cuck half.

Blogger VD December 09, 2016 12:54 PM  

The US will have to go to war to expel the invaders from Europe. The stakes of that war will not just be the genocide of the European peoples, but the invaders' peoples as well, for they cannot be allowed to make more attempts at genocide without the risk that they will someday succeed. As death is the penalty for murder, so genocide for genocide, and that particularly extends to the people that induced and sustained the invasion of Europe.

Shut up, moron. The USA is the driving force behind the invasion of Europe. Americans REALLY need to stop talking about Europe when you clearly know nothing about the situation.

Blogger VD December 09, 2016 12:55 PM  

Long past the reasonable stage. Europe will become a caliphate, or there will be civil war to restore the native peoples. USA needs to learn from this while we still have choices.

The European nations - not the EU - has far more time than the USA. Look up the population demographics sometime. Europe is far more white.

Anonymous I Am Irony, Man December 09, 2016 1:09 PM  

If Wilders and the PVV are not elected into power, I would love to see a newly-inaugurated President Trump offer Wilders political asylum in the U.S., as a victim of political persecution in his home country.

Anonymous Housecat Warrior of Asgard December 09, 2016 1:12 PM  

Nah. We're going to win. In fact, we're already winning. Trump, Brexit, and Italy's no vote all show this.

On a side note, I'm very sad that George Soros stopped signing your paychecks. Maybe NYT or CNN could use you for op-eds?

Anyway, we're winning, and you're losing. It's really very simple.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 09, 2016 1:35 PM  

Raggededge wrote:They played right into Wilders hands on this one. They found him not guilty of hate-speech and his "sentence" for this conviction is 5000 Euros. If they were trying to slow Wilders movement, this is the exact opposite way to do it. I thought this was telling:

...the verdict was read by the chief judge, Hendrik Steenhuis, at a secured courtroom on a military base near Schiphol Airport...

Exactly who are they afraid of? This decision will be extremely unpopular with the Dutch and Gilders will be their next Prime Minister.



When they have to hold kangaroo court trials on military bases its like taking whatever legitimacy they once had, soaking it in petrol and setting it on fire.

Not a smart play.

Anonymous Giselher December 09, 2016 1:43 PM  

"The European nations - not the EU - has far more time than the USA. Look up the population demographics sometime. Europe is far more white."

Not really. You have to "take into account the age demographic which the influx is affecting", see Adorjan Kovacs' notes on the number of young german men:

http://newobserveronline.com/germany-nonwhites-majority-in-one-generation/

Blogger ant becker December 09, 2016 1:47 PM  

Eastern Europe may be saved if they stay on course and reject mass Muslim immigration.

Didn't Wilders get an audit, some years ago on how much Muslim immigration into the Netherlands has cost the country? It was billions.

Anonymous I Am Irony, Man December 09, 2016 1:47 PM  

Housecat Warrior of Asgard @54: "On a side note, I'm very sad that George Soros stopped signing your paychecks."

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Listen, Sonny, you are so far off-base on this one that not only have you left the stadium, but you've hailed a taxi, gone to the airport, hopped aboard a transcontinental flight to Africa, and are currently standing on a soccer pitch somewhere in Johannesburg.

There are times to deploy clever little sayings that you've often seen your betters use...but this isn't one of them.

Blogger Kyle Searle December 09, 2016 1:53 PM  

As a North American living in Europe I'm with Vox on this. Men here are far less shamed by their whiteness. They are physically soft, yes, but less mentally soft than men in the US. There's no real Churchian movement here. The left is atheist, and the right is agnostic. Europe in general is more collectivist than the US, but don't think of that in terms of right-versus-left, most of those distinctions are trash reasoning anyway. Germany and Sweden are the only two problem states. Even then every German man I know is really holding back a lot on the inside due to the shame of their Nazi past. If you get them drinking, the real feelings come out. Really, at present Eastern Europe is a safe bastion, and if France goes Europe will turn. The French man is again, not physically brave but he has stronger convictions in the righteousness of his culture. La laicite is under threat and they don't like it. The US population is what, 10 % illegals? And Europe is nearly tearing itself apart over 0.5 % illegals.

Blogger Kyle Searle December 09, 2016 2:06 PM  

Let's take for example the movie "American Sniper." In it, Chris Kyle's father tells him, "Some people are sheep, some people are wolves. You're a wolfhound." But this is moralistic bullshit. Kyle went to Iraq, a country that didn't have weapons of mass destruction and played no role in 9/11 and shot people. He was a wolf. Yet American men are so stuck in their moralizing navel-gazing that they have to fabricate rationalizations to explain their nation's bad behavior in the name of empire. Stop the moral grandstanding and accept that sometimes you do bad things. Rome wasn't a bunch of lily-white puritans.

Kids, if you ever called "French fries," "Freedom fries" I have news for you. The French were on your side; your elites who renamed fries are your enemies. Your elites are the ones that spend American blood in foreign lands to distract you from domestic issues.

Anonymous idiocraties December 09, 2016 2:07 PM  

I am from Europe, and we don't have the same white guilt as the Americans seem to have. Maybe because the glory of the west is harder to deny when you are living around great cathedrals and works of art.

As for the comments about Europeans being cucked or soft, well yes we are, to an extent. But you also forget, we are literally living in the reminders of what conflict can do. The bullet holes are still visible, the shells are often still in the soil. Europeans are cautious to fight, as we know what happens when they do. The results of it are part of our everyday lives. I should also note that the USA or Oz, or Canada has not had many, if any wars on their home soil.

Im sorry if this sounds antagonistic to any non europeans, not my intention. The continent has seen centuries of bloody wars, and you cant blame us for wanting to keep the peace. Just dont discount the reaction of people from European stock when the pressure is on.

Anonymous idiocraties December 09, 2016 2:18 PM  

Ill also just add : if its all going to kick off, my money is on France. They are the most proud of their nation and identity. For gods sake they have their own space programme rather than be part of ESA. So it will start in France, and the Germans will find the most efficient way of finishing it. 2017 is the year. Count on it.

Add me on Twitter any other euros here
https://twitter.com/idiocraties

Best of luck to us all. We are all in this together.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect December 09, 2016 2:32 PM  

"The European nations - not the EU - has far more time than the USA. Look up the population demographics sometime. Europe is far more white."

You might be surprised - I was in a local bar in EUrostan the other night. There was an informal karaoke session and once the locals had settled in for the night the music shifted to arabic pop and rap. One enterprising young fellow I had been convinced was as white as I am even put on the Algerian national anthem for everyone to sing along to - and they did; even the girls who were quite clearly European had a good grasp of arabic.

Everyone was smoking and drinking, well dressed and apart from a few dusky complexions they barely stood out from the local indigenes. These were not the bearded pajama men or the ninja-beekeepers of the islamic persuasion (and we have plenty of them too) but they had not adopted at all the culture of their host nation and preferred to idolize a country many of them were not even born in.

As an expat I have never felt the need to sing my national anthem, even in groups of other expats. Of course, a similar display by the indigenous people of their own culture would be considered racist hate speach.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect December 09, 2016 2:59 PM  

I really don't want to be such a "black pill-er" but people have unreasonable expectations for France. First of all, France isn't a white nation, it is a Francophone (French speaking) nation. Parts of "France" are what other nations call colonies, far away from Europe but are considered as French as the mainland in every way. Moreover, the inhabitants from the colonies that France did let go are all free to come to France and claim French nationality as a right.

Witness leading french "nationalist" Alain Soral beating up a white nationalist on TV for saying people were sick of arabs - Soral isn't, he accepts them as French if they speak French and carry a French passport.

Both center-right candidates are confirmed islamophiles and even Le Pen's policies are aimed at illegal immigrants which are a tiny fraction of the, shall we say non-European population (basically in France illegals get nothing which is why they all try to get to UK)

Yes, they stand in opposition to (((US hegemony))) but only because they see themselves as better with a better from of universalism and equality for all. And they had a head start when the French Revolution showed their elites that they had better insulate themselves from the hoi polloi with politicians and other puppets if they wanted to continue their lavish lifestyles.

France is a socialist paradise and has been for centuries, even the "extreme-right" would be considered liberals in most other countries. Le Pen would be the best choice for France but she is the leader of a mainstream party, a career politician fighting against the "racist" legacy of her father in exchange for political power, she is not Trump in a dress.

Blogger Kyle Searle December 09, 2016 3:30 PM  

Meanwhile on the same day:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-terror-attacks-europe-netherlands-plot-dutch-rotterdam-man-arrested-kalashnikov-explosives-a7465886.html

Blogger GFR December 09, 2016 3:34 PM  

@60
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Haven't you noticed that most of your wars resulted from the peaceful nations allowing Germany to re-arm while they weren't paying attention?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 09, 2016 3:38 PM  

@63 Fnord
I really don't want to be such a "black pill-er" but people have unreasonable expectations for France. First of all, France isn't a white nation, it is a Francophone (French speaking) nation.

Is France a proposition nation, or a preposition nation?

Blogger GFR December 09, 2016 3:40 PM  

@62
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If the French people stop paying the invaders they will either go home or riot.
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And if France is, as you say, as "socialist paradise" then eventually they will run out of money.
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At that point the French will either learn to fight or they will die.

Blogger GFR December 09, 2016 3:43 PM  

@59
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Chris Kyle was shooting jihadis who were terrorizing civilians. It really doesn't matter WHY the US was in Iraq - those people needed to die whatever the situation.

Blogger Innostran December 09, 2016 3:52 PM  

It really would be the icing on the 2016 cake for Wilders and Le Pen to win their respective elections next year, plus AfD in Germany getting representation in the national parliament. Wilders not being concretely penalized shows how scared the Dutch/Euro establishment is about making him into a martyr, so hopefully that means his momentum keeps pushing him forward.

Blogger GFR December 09, 2016 3:58 PM  

@40
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Didn't you also say that Brexit would lose and Trump would lose?
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Wilders hasn't won YET..
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"There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come"..

Blogger GFR December 09, 2016 4:03 PM  

How do they recall judges in the Netherlands?

Anonymous Fnord Prefect December 09, 2016 4:08 PM  

A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Is France a proposition nation, or a preposition nation?

Honestly, preposition nation isn't far off - but more a grammar tyranny or a linguistic reservation: total control of the media by a political elite through language - as I keep repeating, all French language media is subsidized (newspapers, magazines, books, film, music, radio etc...) the language itself is centralized and controlled by L'Académie française and is focused on nitpicky grammar and correct accent over and above actual communication (as this guy humorously points out , people think he is retarded because he has the right accent but makes occasional mistakes.) The level of foreign language teaching is very poor, especially English, and it is taught as if was just French with different words and with a ridiculous amount of attention on the "right accent". Teachers require I high level of French literary knowledge and all exams are in written French making it very difficult for non-natives to teach their own languages

I see "France's" best hope as régionalisation and the reinstatement of regional languages (which are actively suppressed and receive no funding)

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 09, 2016 4:13 PM  

To us Yanks here: I'm with Vox here on the Europe/US divide. A lot the news we hear about Europe is very, very filtered through academia, politicians, and mainstream media - all of which lie about Europe. Western Europe and the EU are often held up as straw examples to favorably contrast the US against.

Otherwise, it's interested parties playing at psyops wishing to discourage alternative or dissident movements. As far as demography goes, it will take far longer for Europe to reach the point the US is at now. More than 90% of Europe's overall population is ethnically *white*. The US's is around 72%.

A good chunk of Europe's problems can be solved by getting rid of the EU and some deregulation. Demographic crises? Cut back taxes. Look at Russia and Putin - went from 1.8 replication to 2.2 with tax cuts and tax relief for married families. The big reason families in Europe start later is it's more expensive to get homes, raise kids, get good jobs - because of regulations and high taxes. Europe also does not have college degree stranglehold on trades the same way the US does. There are issues, but again, quickly solved. They're not in a peachy situation, but they're far from DOOMED.

The US has...other issues.

Anonymous Fnord Prefect December 09, 2016 4:16 PM  

GFR wrote:@62

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If the French people stop paying the invaders they will either go home or riot.


IF...and the welfare class is just as "French" as the provider class. I repeat, France's problem is not illegal immigration, it is legal immigration from former colonies.

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And if France is, as you say, as "socialist paradise" then eventually they will run out of money.

Indeed, I think EU main raison d'être is to let the German's pay France's welfare bill.
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At that point the French will either learn to fight or they will die.

Amen!

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2016 4:28 PM  

> YOU GUYS HAVE LOST

Lost? We have not yet begun to fight.

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 09, 2016 4:37 PM  

ant becker wrote:
Eastern Europe may be saved if they stay on course and reject mass Muslim immigration.


Eastern Europe will be saved only if they leave the EUSSR and NATO (the EUSSR's muscle). Doing this might require joining sides with Putin, which many there (understandably) would not want to do. They simply can't grasp the profound change which has taken place. The evil empire is headquartered in New York, London, Berlin, Paris, Brussels and Rome - not in Moscow. (((George Soros))) owns the Roman Catholic Church and his servant is on the throne of the Vatican. Hi-Fellatin' Franny can't bring in Musloids and dindus fast enough. Do the Poles, Hungarians, Czechs, etc. somehow think Reichskanzlerin Merkel is going to allow them to refuse to settle millions of dindus and kebabs? Only if they're willing to refuse with nukes aimed at Berlin, London, Paris and Brussels.

Blogger Johnny December 09, 2016 5:04 PM  

Something that people often overlook is that a relationship is between two people or two groups. You can't just declare it and know that the other side will go along.

Fundamentally, the most commonplace mistake that is being made both here and in Europe is that the natives think they are in charge of events, and for now they are. But import enough people that they become a significant minority and that unilateral acceptance is apt to slip away.

The deal is, the upside of all these newcomers isn't much and the downside is the surrender of the local population to the newcomers or the worst kind of civil war. Why risk it when there is so little to gain?

Blogger GFR December 09, 2016 5:12 PM  

@76
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Our elites think they can control their elites, if they give them enough stuff. They are wrong.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 09, 2016 6:16 PM  

Fnord Prefect wrote:Parts of "France" are what other nations call colonies, far away from Europe but are considered as French as the mainland in every way. Moreover, the inhabitants from the colonies that France did let go are all free to come to France and claim French nationality as a right.
And it's amazing just how fast and ultra-violently the French have been known to change their mind on these sorts of questions. You're assuming a continuation of the Fifth Republic. I simply don't see that as a given. The current situation is a direct outgrowth of the failure in Algeria and the collapse of the Fourth Republic. When it becomes obvious that the current approach is a failure, the laws, rules, structures and assumptions will change over a period of months, not decades, and likely many people will die, some of torture.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 09, 2016 6:21 PM  

Haven't you noticed that most of your wars resulted from the peaceful nations allowing Germany to re-arm while they weren't paying attention?
Most of France's wars have been with England...
Just the latest 3 local wars have been with Germany. Two of them were not caused by "allowing Germans to re-arm" but rather legitimate jurisdictional and border disputes, that should have been resolved peacefully, but neither side was willing to back down. The other was caused by attempting to prevent Germany from again becoming a power.

Blogger Lazarus December 09, 2016 7:11 PM  

DemonicProfessorEl wrote:The US has...other issues.

Yes. If the EU breaks up, it just goes back to being already established countries of Europe. If the U.S. breaks up, there is no country.

Blogger ZhukovG December 09, 2016 7:43 PM  

@Lazarus: Southerners and Texans assure you; we have a country.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 09, 2016 9:47 PM  

Maybe this court decision is a "split the baby" compromise. Wilders is found guilty of something, but not anything serious enough to remove him from public life. So the high time preference libtards and kebab can celebrate, but Wilders supporters don't get shoved into a corner.

Sort of a "plausible deniability" ruling for the Dutch elites to cover themselves with.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 09, 2016 9:52 PM  

Haven't you noticed that most of your wars resulted from the peaceful nations allowing Germany to re-arm while they weren't paying attention?

One of the most ignorant things I've read all year, and that's saying something.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 10, 2016 12:49 AM  

DemonicProfessorEl wrote:SNIP

A good chunk of Europe's problems can be solved by getting rid of the EU and some deregulation. Demographic crises? Cut back taxes. Look at Russia and Putin - went from 1.8 replication to 2.2 with tax cuts and tax relief for married families. The big reason families in Europe start later is it's more expensive to get homes, raise kids, get good jobs - because of regulations and high taxes. Europe also does not have college degree stranglehold on trades the same way the US does. There are issues, but again, quickly solved. They're not in a peachy situation, but they're far from DOOMED.

The US has...other issues.


Getting rid of the EU is a good idea for reason of economic inequalities in the common market and migration but its not a solution.

As an example, Russian fertility. Were it so easy. According to the CIA fact book as of 2016 the Russian TFR is 1.6

Its gone as high as around 1.7 and change and even briefly gone above US rates but its never been at replacement or above.

Also the actual needed TFR for Russia is probably higher than 2.1 , maybe 2.2 or even 2.3 or more as infant mortality rates are a higher than those in the US

Also there doesn't seem to be any correlation with religion, tax rates or even feminism and fertility rates that are broadly applicable to White people at the current time or much in the more developed world since the early 1970's in some places, later in others.

Every White nation has roughly the same fertility rates (1.3 to 1.9) despite different cultures , degrees of religiosity and so on.

In fact socially Democratic , Feminist , Atheist Sweden has much higher TFR (1.7 to maybe 1.9) among its natives than Poland (1.4) which is less feminist, less socially democratic and heavily Catholic . Abortion also doesn't matter either. Its mostly illegal in Poland

Now the US if Trump increases hopefulness and economy may have a baby bounce but that's not a long term solution anyway. We'll probably never see anything like the baby boom again

My guess and its only a guess is that lack of steady male driven employment is a factor as is urbanization, Simply smaller families make more sense in the city and as nearly everyone is urban now, nearly everyone has a smaller family

Also its too hard to know if one is going to have a job or a spouse in a year or five for many men and that uncertainty has led to smaller families.

None of the current societies are capable of the level of regulation, almost medieval required to build in stability and if society gets less urban , it will by nature support a less sense population and less people anyway.

My thought is this is a carrying capacity issue and modernity has White folks way over our carrying capacity and the only way through is to remove foreigners, stop cold all short sighted immigration advocates and allow the population to shrink to a stable level.

It should stabilize at some point, maybe 150 million or so for the US and maybe 1/3 less for Europe with the bulk of the population being a bit more natal


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