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Friday, December 23, 2016

Fake reviews as SJW weapons

I've been pointing out that fake reviews on Amazon are a potentially serious problems for years, but SJWs have repeatedly tried to claim that I am being a bully when I identify an individual has posted a fake review. I doubt they're going to be able to get away with it much longer, though, as in addition to attacking the likes of Roosh, Cernovich, and me, they're now attacking the President-Elect's daughter:
Reviews of the Ivanka Trump Women's Issa boots, which tout a list price of $180, included this: "These boots were perfect for wiping my feet on the Constitution and trampling the civil liberties and basic human rights of my fellow Americans," wrote a user named Susan Harper. "The spike heel is ideal for grinding democracy into the ground, or simply kicking the downtrodden as you stride past."

Amazon user AR called them "two extremely right boots" in her one star review and added that the "sizing and all other info is in Russian, but they are made in China."

The stinging insults go on and on. Virtually every Ivanka Trump product on Amazon has at least one scathing review designed as a barb against the businesswoman, particularly as she relates to her father's political agenda.

Rise of the 'Activist Reviews'

This is hardly the first time products on Amazon (which did not return request for comment) have been assailed by trolls — just recently Megyn Kelly's book "Settle For More" was targeted, and the site worked to scrub the hateful comments. These guerrilla attacks, if you will, have become more common in recent years.

"We've seen these 'activist reviews' for several years but they appear to be getting more common," said Jason "RetailGeek" Goldberg, ‎SVP commerce and content practice at Razorfish.

"In some ways, these smear campaign reviews are the natural extension of 'funny fake reviews,' which have been occurring for a number of years. Amazon even embraced these joke reviews by curating a list of their favorites. So now that the 'funny' reviews have taken a negative turn, retailers need to crack down on them in order to preserve the credibility and trust in the whole review system."
Speaking of fake reviews on Amazon, here is the latest, left on SJWAL by one "Em".

There are much better critiques of the left out there. Skip this one.
By Em on December 22, 2016
Format: Paperback

The book is comical in its lack of self awareness and hypocrisy. I agree that there are some strains of liberalism that are obnoxious and bad and anti-free speech and so on. But Milo is one of them! One of the many examples: He complains about liberals getting others fired for their beliefs and then is smugly self-congratulatory when it happens to liberals after Gamergate. His examples of "the left" behaving badly include individual nobodies tweeting him. The whole book struck me as petty and quite frankly kind of pathetic.

Amazon is taking fake reviews seriously, but they haven't designed a proper system for detecting them yet. I expect they will in the next year or two. Once they start banning fake reviewers from being able to access their system at all, and paying a bounty to people who correctly identify them, they'll be able to clean up their system in no time.
Gisela Hausmann, Amazon e-commerce expert and author of "Naked Truths About Getting Product Reviews on Amazon.com" noted: "Amazon's algorithm notices disproportionate numbers of negative reviews [and] weeds out these reviews according to their criteria, as defined in their Community Guidelines."

In time, these reviews will be plucked from the site, and aggressive trolls could face lawsuits for their words, even if they were simply horsing around. Retailers are taking an aggressive stand to crack down on fake reviewers; Amazon has sued more than 1000, for example," said Goldberg.

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60 Comments:

Blogger Alexander December 23, 2016 11:12 AM  

#Fake'Views

It is an ongoing delight to see these people running into traps. Years of cuck opposition means they have zero sense of awareness or survival instinct.

Anonymous Salt December 23, 2016 11:14 AM  

These people, if you can call them that, have their panties in a wad....

"“Dear @Ivankatrump please get my work off of your walls. I am embarrassed to be seen with you,” Philadelphia artist Alex Da Corte wrote on Instagram."

Anonymous Mock a Killingbird December 23, 2016 11:21 AM  

At some point, we'll need to determine whether this derangement is mental infirmity or criminality and the treatment methods.

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 23, 2016 11:21 AM  

"[even if they were simply horsing around.]"

Well that sucks, some of these reviews had me in stitches.

http://rats-funnybone.com/veet-hair-removal-gel-for-men-funniest-review-ever/

Blogger Elocutioner December 23, 2016 11:24 AM  

Nice monopoly ya got there, Bezos, it'd be a real shame if it got regulated by someone you can't buy off.

Blogger Richard Stone December 23, 2016 11:34 AM  

I can't get too annoyed at this, as the right uses the same tactic, and I approve. When Megyn Kelly's book came out the negative reviews (often hilarious) knocked her book down to 1.5 stars before Amazon scrubbed them.

The only issue I have is if Bezos decides that only left wing attacks of this sort will be tolerated.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 23, 2016 11:37 AM  

A leftist/statist SJW complaining of lack of self-awareness and hypocrisy is enough irony to build a spinach factory. Oh, right... the second law.

@3 - Yes, yes they are. Deranged and criminal.

Blogger Robert Divinity December 23, 2016 11:40 AM  

As an author, you obviously have to maintain a working relationship with Amazon/Bezos. I try my best to avoid doing business there, but sometimes it is unavoidable. The reviews have absolutely no impact on my purchases when forced to use Amazon. I noticed the double standard applied to Megyn Kelly, who quickly was protected by Amazon. Typical SJW bullshit there.

It is an ongoing delight to see these people running into traps. Years of cuck opposition means they have zero sense of awareness or survival instinct.

They absolutely are hapless. It's even worse than rusty since their defense mechanism never has been used. We need to continue to knock the hell out of them while they are so off-balance.

Anonymous John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project (fake review it now on amazon!) December 23, 2016 11:41 AM  

Amazon is still littered with "reviews" in which the author seems to believe they're addressing customer service.

More annoyingly, there are a myriad of incomplete-sentence word salad reviews: say for example, you check out a paperback edition of "King Lear" and someone gives it a five star review that reads, "Excellent information! Would buy again!"

I can only assume there's SOME profit motive in this activity, but for the life of me I can't see how. How would Penguin Classics benefit from such activity, and who would pay somebody to write, or create the bots to deposit, such "reviews"? And if amazon cannot be troubled to repress this activity, I have little hope they'll clamp down on the cannier cons any time soon.

In comparison, the evil of mendacious and tendentious reviews by non-readers has a certain devilish splendor. Wicked, and worth oppressing; but I wouldn't mind someday seeing an anthology of these in print for encouragement and the lozlzolz of others.

Blogger JWM December 23, 2016 11:44 AM  

I saw this headline on Drudge last night, so I clicked on Amazon, looked up Ivanka Trump, and clicked on one of the dresses. There were over 100 reviews, all the same kind of snarky, vicious nonsense that you see in these examples. Who has time for this sort of petty, malicious crap? Petty malicious people.

JWM

Blogger pyrrhus December 23, 2016 11:49 AM  

My experience is that one star reviews on Amazon are always ideological hit pieces, with the possible exception of those who have severe customer service issues. I don't think most people pay any attention to them, if there are numerous favorable reviews. The biggest complaint I have heard from authors is that they can't get enough reviews, period. Less than one reader in a hundred will post a review.

Blogger pyrrhus December 23, 2016 11:51 AM  

I have taken the time to chew out and report a couple of these hit jobs on excellent books I have read, but really, it's not worth the time.

Blogger pdwalker December 23, 2016 11:55 AM  

Good.

Anonymous Susan December 23, 2016 12:34 PM  

Ivanka is used to being the darling socialite of the NYC cafe crowd. I really hope her eyes are being opened to the truly snark filled toxic people she associated with for years.

I read some of the first over 300 reviews of Kelly's book. I do not believe those were fakes at all. I believe they were written by people who actually were looking forward to her book.

Have to say that the reviews before Bezos scrubbed them and rigged her account were more entertaining than her book was likely to be.

The difference between bad reviews from the right vs Leftists is that somebody on the right is more likely to have actually bought the book and read the thing vs the Leftist who is writing a fake review to try to hurt sales.

Anonymous Type 5 December 23, 2016 12:40 PM  

"The book is comical in its lack of self awareness and hypocrisy."

It finds your lack of hypocrisy comical?

Anonymous jakob December 23, 2016 12:43 PM  

Why, WHY is it so impossibly difficult for them to allow ONLY verified purchasers to post reviews? It couldn't be easier and simpler than that. And yet...

Blogger Mountain Man December 23, 2016 12:58 PM  

Yank all EBT cards, eliminate non-profit status for all but the most worthy groups ( <20 % ) and shrink the number of employees in the .gov "work"place by 1/2 and there will be very few of these losers with time on their hands.
They will hustling to just find enough money for food ( and losing their fat frames in the process). What a glorious thing it would be to witness.

Blogger Mountain Man December 23, 2016 1:01 PM  

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Blogger Mountain Man December 23, 2016 1:02 PM  

By the day, Im beginning to feel that, for these nut jobs ,forced commitment to a mental institute, is the only way to stop them.

Blogger synp December 23, 2016 1:08 PM  

The best reviews are for this book:
https://www.amazon.com/How-Avoid-Huge-Ships-Never/dp/0881000191/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482516274&sr=8-1&keywords=how+to+avoid+huge+ships

Also, Vox never told us that Milo wrote the book for him.

Blogger Whisker biscuit December 23, 2016 1:21 PM  

A little OT, but the fag who harassed Trump's daughter on the flight are being doxxed like crazy on FB. I just saw two memes with their personal numbers and addresses. Ouch!

Anonymous ChildofOldLeech December 23, 2016 1:26 PM  

So how is one to separate fake reviews from negative legit reviews? You apparently don't have any issues with short, uninformative reviews as well as those coming from users who are not verified Amazon purchasers, as long as reviews in question are positive...

Speaking of issues Amazon ought fix, what about creating bunch of accounts so that one can buy same e-book multiple times in order to push its sales rank. One needn't even register credit cards on alt accounts, I am told, it is enough to send then necessary amount of money via gift cards. SO, if certain folks keep being noisy, Amazon might indeed be provoked into action.

Anonymous The book December 23, 2016 1:32 PM  

I am. That is funny. See? I'm comical and self-aware.

Blogger modsquad December 23, 2016 1:40 PM  

When you buy a book from Amazon you're given a code number you can only use once, assigned to the book you bought. You enter the code number to leave a review. No other reviews would be permitted.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 23, 2016 1:50 PM  

Luckily it's usually easy to tell when you've got a SJW playing games with a review. All they are doing is beclowning themselves usually, and it's in fact a selling point with me when I catch them campaigning against a product. It would be nice to see them get their just deserts, though. That I'd like.

The Ivanka fashion thing is a hoot. Ivanka's designs are affordable, and they aim for glamor and elan. Meanwhile we had Hillary out there in five figure designer outfits no less, and putting on the macabre Chairman Mao sexy. Hillary, the populist Democrat, up against the billionaire's daughter, and this happens? Everyday women can't afford the Hillary look. Not even close. Ivanka was the one ironically catering to them. And offering a nice, elegant product line. Yeah, she's the one the SJWs target, as opposed to the horrid elitist Lizard Queen.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 23, 2016 1:58 PM  

Thing is, where the SJW has integrity s/h/it would still lack judgment. Of course, there is no species so endangered as the SJW with integrity. I don't believe one has been seen in the wild in several hundred thousand years.

Anonymous fop December 23, 2016 1:59 PM  

I have to agree with the guy who told Ivanka to take down his artwork. The painting resembles something I once left in a mexican public toilet after a bout of Montezuma's Revenge.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 23, 2016 2:03 PM  

"I can only assume there's SOME profit motive in this activity, but for the life of me I can't see how."

I can understand the one and two star ideological hit pieces, really (though I cannot understand selling one's integrity so cheaply, but then I'm not an SJW). What I cannot figure out is the 3 star review. I've asked, repeatedly, and never gotten an answer that didn't strike me as, "If I can review something I am equal to the creator of that something. I count. I _matter_." Really.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 23, 2016 2:04 PM  

"eliminate non-profit status for all but the most worthy groups ( <20 % )"

I would be very skeptical that the percentage is anything like that high.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft December 23, 2016 2:05 PM  

@7. Ironically enough, spinach has about 1/100 the iron in it that was calculated at one point (which spurred the creation of the "Popeye the Sailor Man" cartoon) so really it's enough to build an entire spinach industry.

@25. The khiliary look isn't even a good look, it's absolutely horrendous. Elderly women can certainly do better, I see them do better constantly.

Blogger l' Américain December 23, 2016 2:17 PM  

I mean... we do this too.

Blogger Chris Lutz December 23, 2016 2:31 PM  

The short word salad comments are most likely from people who reviewed on their Kindle device. When you finish a book, it will prompt you to rate it. The problem is you just can't give it a rating. You have to provide a comment as well. People just write something innocuous to be able to rate the book.

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 23, 2016 2:31 PM  

Verified purchases only would eliminate two critical components of Amazon's business strategy, so that is out. They just need to follow through on detrolling.

Blogger GFR December 23, 2016 2:35 PM  

As a practical matter, how can you sue someone when you have INVITED them to post a review on your site?
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How can you sue someone for WRITING something at all?
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And if you were successful and negative reviews suddenly disappeared, wouldn't the whole point of having reviews disappear with it? Who is going to believe the reviews if they are all 4 or 5 stars?

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 23, 2016 2:53 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Verified purchases only would eliminate two critical components of Amazon's business strategy, so that is out.

Elaborate please, I'm curious.

Anonymous #8601 December 23, 2016 3:34 PM  

The two people quoted in this article are (((Goldberg))) and (((Hausmann)))

Anonymous Shut up rabbit December 23, 2016 3:37 PM  

Don't be so deliberately dense. No one is saying eliminate negative reviews, just malicious, fake reviews (which are easy to spot to all but the most deliberately obtuse saddos)

Anonymous WaterBoy December 23, 2016 3:42 PM  

GFR @34: "As a practical matter, how can you sue someone when you have INVITED them to post a review on your site?"

Same way every site/service with a Terms Of Service/Community Guidelines does:

"We take the integrity of the Community very seriously. Any attempt to manipulate Community content or features, including by contributing false, misleading, or inauthentic content, is strictly prohibited. If you violate our Guidelines, we may restrict your ability to use Community features, remove content, delist related products, or suspend or terminate your account. If we determine that an Amazon account has been used to engage in any form of misconduct, remittances and payments may be withheld or permanently forfeited. Misconduct may also violate state and federal laws, including the Federal Trade Commission Act, and can lead to legal action and civil and criminal penalties.
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By accessing or using our Community features, you agree to our Conditions of Use and to abide by these Guidelines as modified from time to time. These Guidelines apply to any content (including text, images, video, and links) you submit to Amazon and actions you take (such as voting on helpfulness or smiling at a post) when using Community features. These Guidelines also apply to your interactions with other members of the Community.

Note: Additional guidelines apply to Customer Reviews.
"

and:

"Additional Guidelines for Customer Reviews

The following guidelines apply to Customer Reviews in addition to the other guidelines set forth above:
• If your review is removed or rejected because it does not comply with our guidelines concerning promotional content, you may not resubmit a review on the same product, even if the resubmitted review includes different content.
• Reviews may only include URLs or links to other products sold on Amazon.
• Customers in the same household may not post multiple reviews of the same product.
• Customers can submit 5 non-Amazon Verified Purchase reviews each week. Non-Amazon Verified Purchase review counts are calculated each week from Sunday at 12:00am GMT through Saturday 11:59pm GMT. This policy does not apply to Vine reviews or reviews on digital and physical books, music, and video.
• When we find unusually high numbers of reviews for a product posted in a short period of time, we may restrict the number of non-Amazon Verified Purchase reviews on that product.
"

Presumably, the "legal action" as it relates to civil penalties implies some kind of fraud, but IANAL.

Blogger SirHamster December 23, 2016 3:44 PM  

GFR wrote:As a practical matter, how can you sue someone when you have INVITED them to post a review on your site?
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How can you sue someone for WRITING something at all?



Fake reviews are not reviews. Libel is legally actionable.

Low effort low energy objections.

Blogger Doom December 23, 2016 3:44 PM  

They really need to make these lawsuits more public. Oddly, even the "psychos" do change their behavior when they realize they not only can, but will be punished, and harshly. If they lose one of these types of suits, one of the punishments may include being cut off from the internet. These cockroaches really perk up when they realize just how bad it can get. And here I am, thinking I may quit the internet before long because it is mostly junk and a waste of time. Bleh.

Cut off from the internet? Those lucky, lucky bastards.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 23, 2016 3:47 PM  

Comments disappearing...this is a test.

Anonymous jakob December 23, 2016 3:48 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Verified purchases only would eliminate two critical components of Amazon's business strategy

And what would those be?

Blogger synp December 23, 2016 3:54 PM  

Shut up rabbit wrote:Don't be so deliberately dense. No one is saying eliminate negative reviews, just malicious, fake reviews (which are easy to spot to all but the most deliberately obtuse saddos)
Easy to spot for humans. Amazon wants something more mechanised; more AI; more Big Data. And those technologies are pretty poor at discerning malice in human responses.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 23, 2016 4:21 PM  

Eventually anonymity will be a thing of the past, or non-identified reviews will be ignored, and an Infogalactic-like system of reviewer classification will emerge to help people only access reviews they will find relevant.

Central policing won't satisfy because it still rests on the myth that we can all get along.

We can't.

Blogger VD December 23, 2016 4:42 PM  

As a practical matter, how can you sue someone when you have INVITED them to post a review on your site?

Because they are violating the terms of service. Everyone is not invited to post reviews, and some people are specifically barred from doing so.

How can you sue someone for WRITING something at all?

Easily. Libel is always written.

And if you were successful and negative reviews suddenly disappeared, wouldn't the whole point of having reviews disappear with it? Who is going to believe the reviews if they are all 4 or 5 stars?

It depends upon the work, of course. And no one is opposed to negative reviews, but fake reviews, which are "reviews" by people who either have not read the work or are not actually reviews, but politically motivated attacks on the author.

A fake review will often refer more to things the author has written that are not the work purportedly being reviewed.

Blogger VD December 23, 2016 4:43 PM  

an Infogalactic-like system of reviewer classification will emerge to help people only access reviews they will find relevant.

Infogalactic will have this. It's on the list.

Blogger SirHamster December 23, 2016 5:35 PM  

VD wrote:an Infogalactic-like system of reviewer classification will emerge to help people only access reviews they will find relevant.

Infogalactic will have this. It's on the list.


Don't remember the name of the site, but wasn't there a review site with the same idea that you previously linked on VP? I remember you putting your video game reviews on it.

Did it fade away, and is there something there to build on or copy from?

Anonymous WaterBoy December 23, 2016 7:08 PM  

SirHamster @46: "Don't remember the name of the site, but wasn't there a review site with the same idea that you previously linked on VP?"

Recommend.

Blogger wreckage December 23, 2016 8:05 PM  

The review is way off the mark. SJWs always lie would be just as useful to a leftie trying to stop their organization from being infiltrated and destroyed by the right;

The Australian Labor Party going from "the cream of the working class" to the "dregs of the middle class"

The Australian Greens turning into the "Tree Hugging Tories"

Of course, it's a clever and very subtle guide to rhetoric and dialectic... but like I said, it's also a good outline out the social-game behaviours used to infiltrate and destroy.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 23, 2016 8:12 PM  

Leftist slime will not be satisfied until they politicize every waking moment of life.

If that's the way they want it, then the alt-right will give it to them in spades. Here's hoping the leftists' lives are reduced to misery as a result. That's the only way they will ever learn, and in many cases not even then.

Blogger Sagramore December 24, 2016 12:23 AM  

The Story About Ping needs to stay.

Blogger GFR December 24, 2016 12:49 AM  

Thanks for not answering the question. Now shut up.

Blogger wreckage December 24, 2016 1:08 AM  

@51 Your definition of "not answering the question" seems to be wildly deviant from the norm.

Blogger wreckage December 24, 2016 1:10 AM  

@52 Prosecuting someone form malicious and deceptive slander chills free speech. Prosecuting someone for fraud chills free trade. Righto.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 24, 2016 1:55 AM  

@52:

It's not usually that hard; hit piece reviews tend to have certain common features. For example, they will be factually inaccurate. It's perfectly okay in itself, say, to say something is badly written; opinions on that can differ. But to say the work says X when it says Y is not a matter of opinion. Fraudulent reviews also tend to come in swarms and feed off of one particular review which may or may not even be on Amazon. You can see that in the swarm of SJWs who attacked Big Boys Don't Cry, who obviously hadn't read it but had read on File 770 that the Rabid Puppies had to be stopped. One big give away, if one tends to write more or less right wing fiction, is the guy or gal who starts off with some variant on, "I've voted Republican my entire life but this is..." yet gives clear internal evidence that this cannot be.

By the way, can you point me to the passage in the Constitution that says private citizens are not allowed to infringe or chill free speech? I must have missed it.

Blogger Akulkis December 24, 2016 2:00 AM  

@52

Libel, Slander, and Fraud are not protected by the concept of Freedom of Speech.

Blogger VD December 24, 2016 5:40 AM  

Thanks for not answering the question. Now shut up.

Your questions - plural - were answered. You're banned for lying. Don't come back.

Blogger CM December 24, 2016 7:51 AM  

--VFM #6306 wrote:Verified purchases only would eliminate two critical components of Amazon's business strategy, so that is out.

Elaborate please, I'm curious.--

I left one of two reviews on a decent historical fiction book aimed at 2nd-3rd graders. Why I looked it up on Amazon, I don't know, but I did and saw a 1* review complaining that the book was fiction and they bought it for historical reference and research purposes (which was funny... it was a kid's book).

So I left a complimentary review that included the book's Advanced Reader level as well as elaborating on what to expect from the story (fictional, addresses many real challenges of the period and event, includes a glossary of words unfamiliar to young children being introduced to the time period).

I also noted I didn't buy it, but was a library book.

Blogger Basil Makedon December 24, 2016 8:25 AM  

Now I feel guilty, I posted a fake review of HRC's book. I would never buy such a thing or pollute my mind with reading it.

Blogger Ceerilan December 25, 2016 4:46 AM  

hypocrite is one of the favorite cries of leftists. What they dont realize is in order to be a hypocrite, one has to have pro-social ideals in the first place.

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