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Wednesday, December 28, 2016

I don't care

For future reference, this will be my response to all future queries concerning whether I heard about X doing, or saying, anything, and what I think about X doing, or saying, Y, about Z.

I don't care. I'm not interested.

My friends are my friends. Castalia authors are Castalia authors. I don't give an airborne rodent's posterior if they happen to do or say something that offends your ideological, religious, ethnic, national, or racial sensitivities.

I realize this won't stop the occasional idiot running to me with "did you hear what X did" like a teenage girl who just heard the rumor that the head cheerleader cheated on her boyfriend with the math teacher, but for the record, that will be my response.

I don't care. I'm not interested.

And if you have a problem with that, then please leave and find some other corner of the Internet in which to reside. It's a big place. Take your crusade, whatever it might be, elsewhere. You've got no shortage of options. And I'm not interested in your opinion of me or anyone else. Talking about me, or about someone else, rather than the subject of the post, is an excellent way to get yourself banned here.

This is not, and has never been, a free speech zone. I'll cheerfully ban you for annoying me or trying to waste my time. And I have a low tolerance for gammas, particularly gamma midwits.

I'm done trying to talk sense into the senseless, or to explain rationales to the irrational. You'd think I, of all people, would know better.

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Blogger Phillip George December 28, 2016 8:14 PM  

The Crusades are still on pause. Exorcists and witch hunters are back in demand. Sex has a biological basis.
Loyalty honour valour might even make a come back. It's shaping up to be a good year.

Just say No to self flagellation diversity worship.

[my personal favourite would be a US embassy in Jerusalem - let's get this Balfour declaration over and done with. Deliver the baby.]

Anonymous One Deplorable DT December 28, 2016 8:16 PM  

You'd think I, of all people, would know better.

Don't beat yourself up over it. I've spent a lifetime trying to learn that most of the drama in the world is over nothing. And that the most powerful response is often I don't care.

It's the nature of men to try and solve problems, to fix things. Likewise it's in our nature to defend our friends. So it's easy to get caught up in drama when it's not worth it.

Blogger The Kurgan December 28, 2016 8:16 PM  

At least you don't marry the mistakes you make out of pity!

Blogger Mountain Man December 28, 2016 8:19 PM  

Here is a good quote that is relevant:

“Your time is limited, don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma, which is living the result of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of other opinions drown your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition, they somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.”
- Steve Jobs

Anonymous One Deplorable DT December 28, 2016 8:22 PM  

@5 - Steve Jobs

inb4 this turns into an Apple debate thread.

All I'll say is this: I bet even Karl Denninger would acknowledge that Apple was better under Jobs.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 28, 2016 8:23 PM  

This should be interesting.

Anonymous Laz December 28, 2016 8:32 PM  

Vox Day 2020

Anonymous Ivan Throne December 28, 2016 8:34 PM  

Well said.

Good example.

Regards,

Ivan

Blogger Mountain Man December 28, 2016 8:35 PM  


Ok, Ok ..in the interest of impartiality:

"Whether I’m at the office, at home, or on the road, I always have a stack of books I’m looking forward to reading. "– Bill Gates

Blogger praetorian December 28, 2016 8:38 PM  

8ch and TRS are having at it as well, for no discernible reason. I just keep watching these over and over and smiling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiWY0iRLV94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GUvmvsKZII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyZWpZiYxPk

Anonymous Laz December 28, 2016 8:38 PM  

"I've spent a lifetime trying to learn that most of the drama in the world is over nothing."

I've spent a lifetime watching women create most of the drama.

Blogger Bard December 28, 2016 8:39 PM  

I realized after reading SJWAL that no one else cares either. Situations that affect me personally only matter to a handful of people. I was naive to think otherwise.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 28, 2016 8:40 PM  

@7 Chancellor of the Venetian Republic has a nice ring to it.

Anonymous Flying Rat's A$$ December 28, 2016 8:45 PM  

Amen, brother.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT December 28, 2016 8:49 PM  

@9 - if we're going to be impartial then we have to include Linux.

"Software is like sex; it's better when it's free." - Linus Torvalds

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents December 28, 2016 8:49 PM  

@13 Noah B The MacroAggressor

The correct name for Venice pre Napoleon was "The Serene Republic", the ultimate leader selected by the nobility was "The Doge". Careful what you wish for, by custom the Doge was confined for life to his extensive palace that adjoined St. Mark's cathedral.

Regarding the OP, this quote is attributed to various people, including Socrates:

Strong minds discuss ideas,
average minds discuss events,
weak minds discuss people.



Anonymous One Deplorable DT December 28, 2016 8:53 PM  

Actually...this is probably the better quote considering the topic: "If you still don't like it, that's OK: that's why I'm boss. I simply know better than you do." - Linus Torvalds

Blogger Cynic In Chief December 28, 2016 8:58 PM  

I think Roosh hit upon a good point in his Periscope. The Alt-Right has a lot of pent-up energy that is left over from the election/celebration and it's now going into fighting each other.

Drama is largely pointless and rapidly drains mental energy, which is why if we're going to be stirring up drama, it should be amoung the left. It's an outlet for the pent-up energy, but a destructive one.

I'm focusing on self-improvement for the next few months. Let that energy go into the most productive thing right now. If you're feeling restless, use it to lift weights, improve your finances, build IRL relationships, edify yourself in the Scripture, and anything else that will improve yourself. Check out of the Internet drama, but be prepared to jump back in if the left tries to pull some shenanegans.

Blogger herfsi December 28, 2016 9:23 PM  

i'm focusing on improving others for the next few months! (joke)

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros December 28, 2016 9:28 PM  

Cynic In Chief wrote:I think Roosh hit upon a good point in his Periscope. The Alt-Right has a lot of pent-up energy that is left over from the election/celebration and it's now going into fighting each other.

There's also the fact that the short-term shared goal of electing Trump has been achieved, so there's space for the disagreements about medium and long term strategy to manifest.

And, no doubt, D&C infiltrators, especially after the Hillary speech.

None of this is in any way surprising.

Anonymous krymneth December 28, 2016 9:30 PM  

Indeed, history shall record the Interregnum prior to the Ascension as a time of great stress and anxiety for both sides... albeit in radically different ways. Patience, brethren; Obama's tactic of salting the earth with the tears of his Precious Snowflake Army shall barely slow the God-Emperor. Once the Ascension is on, the PSA shall swiftly melt under his withering glare.

Blogger Ghost of Nathan Bedford Forrest December 28, 2016 9:35 PM  

Preach on Vox!

Blogger William Hudson December 28, 2016 9:39 PM  

In my olden, not-quite-yet-converged U.S. Navy ('69-'73), we had the expressive acronym, DILLIGAF, which meant, "Do I Look Like I Give A Fuck?". Any of you other midwit lurkers remember this one?

Blogger weka December 28, 2016 9:43 PM  

If you are going to quote Linus try this one.
"I'm a bastard. I have absolutely no clue why people can ever think otherwise. Yet they do. People think I'm a nice guy, and the fact is that I'm a scheming, conniving bastard who doesn't care for any hurt feelings or lost hours of work, if it just results in what I consider to be a better system. And I'm not just saying that. I'm really not a very nice person. I can say "I don't care" with a straight face, and really mean it. "

https://lkml.org/lkml/2000/9/6/65

Anonymous #8601 December 28, 2016 9:46 PM  

The recent little squabbles don't tarnish the tremendous victories of 2016.

What an unbelievable year!

Here's hoping 2017 is half as good.

Blogger Jose December 28, 2016 10:01 PM  

No gossip? Really?

Because I heard a really juicy one, that last night Trooper Gumbo, well in the drink, mistook Joe Treadwell for a woman in a dark street and, you can imagine the rest. Poor lad was traumatized, run back to fort. It's all over Ungabunga, might already have reached Laripa and Niovoro... I heard it directly from Fletcher and Oelricks, who swear that Treadwell was dressed in women's clothing and had just come from a... shall we call it 'recreational scolding session?', with Tessie the Tub in the Puss-Puss shop.

(Inside joke. Funniest novel of 2016.)

Gossip, IIRC was one of the most effective tools of PR before the rise of the online social network. Just saying...

Anonymous User December 28, 2016 10:01 PM  

Even monkeys fall from trees

Anonymous Ronald writes December 28, 2016 10:18 PM  

Vox is like a big baby taking his toys home when he loses the game.

Fact is Vox is financially invested in (((Mike))). He attempt to defend him and bash his detractors crashed in flames and now "he doesn't care".

Blogger Garuda1 December 28, 2016 10:23 PM  

@18 I also agree with Roosh on this one. The victory was great, but this infighting is absurd. We struck a blow against the globalist elite, and we must not lose sight of the real enemy here. Don't you guys remember how great it was to fight side-by-side as brothers-in-arms against our shared enemy? The memes! The hashtags! The culture wars have been glorious! The cause of the AltRight is for Christendom, for the West, and for the security of our people. Let's bring back that spirit of camaraderie and unified vision as we continue our fight. We can all fight each other over ideological differences once our shared enemy is vanquished, if that's what some people want.

A great example of a fight that should wait is the squabble between 8ch and TRS. This shit is not called for right now.

Good on you Vox for telling the D&C types to piss off.

Blogger ZhukovG December 28, 2016 10:23 PM  

I have wondered if the 'edgy' faction of a given movement won't attract more than its fair share of Gammas? The Gamma could then blame his social failures on being too edgy for normies, rather than the fact that he is just a jerk.

Blogger Harsh December 28, 2016 10:26 PM  

Cue the gammas claiming that Vox really does care in 3, 2, 1...

Blogger Harsh December 28, 2016 10:27 PM  

And I was already too late. Thank you, Ronald. You've won GotW.

Blogger Matthew December 28, 2016 10:30 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crSBCZd5fCM

Blogger VFM #7634 December 28, 2016 10:53 PM  

Sounds to me as if this "infighting" problem is simply a matter of gammas causing drama more than anything else. Good grief.

Blogger Harsh December 28, 2016 10:54 PM  

This dustup was between those who see this as a movement to save Western civilization and those who see this as an opportunity to make money.

No, wrong.

Blogger herfsi December 28, 2016 10:59 PM  

@23 Wm Hudson - I was in the USN from 78-84, alas those initials passed us by - i wish we had 'em - we did have FNG, FTN (which didn't mean "fash the nation":), sat, squared away, skylarking, heave out & trice up, & an old chief or 2 who liked FUBAR, + a lot of "well at least they can't take away your birthday" at captain's mast:)

Blogger ZhukovG December 28, 2016 10:59 PM  

@VFM #7634, I also wonder if there are not a few 'Agents Provocateur' among the Alt-White. Their faction would be the most attractive for infiltration.

Blogger Lazarus December 28, 2016 11:00 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:I have wondered if the 'edgy' faction of a given movement won't attract more than its fair share of Gammas? The Gamma could then blame his social failures on being too edgy for normies, rather than the fact that he is just a jerk.



Word

Blogger SirHamster December 28, 2016 11:00 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:Sounds to me as if this "infighting" problem is simply a matter of gammas causing drama more than anything else. Good grief.

If the Gammas want to broadcast their unreliability and lack of judgment, who are we to dissuade them?

Anonymous metriculus December 28, 2016 11:02 PM  

@30 Well a major faction really wants self-determination more than anything else, which involves shedding both the low-level minorities and the high ones (i.e. the jay-kews). I don't know the right course of action here but I do know that this fracture point isn't going to simply go away.

Blogger S1AL December 28, 2016 11:02 PM  

Lol Nazi LARPers thinking they're on the side of Western civ in America. All the lulz right there.

Anonymous DC(#sqrt(-1)) December 28, 2016 11:04 PM  

Drama Llama riding is a women-only sport. Just Don't Do It!

Blogger Mountain Man December 28, 2016 11:06 PM  

I'm beginning to wonder if l'American is just LBF under a new name.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 28, 2016 11:09 PM  

This is all gay. All this drama is gay. Everyone complaining is gay. Shut the fuck up.

Blogger Mountain Man December 28, 2016 11:11 PM  

@50

I second that !

Anonymous Marvin Boggs December 28, 2016 11:13 PM  

Thank-you. If I happen to hear about someone doing something I find appalling, I'm more than capable of making my own decision as to what, if anything, I will do about it. If I want to be surrounded by 12-year-olds, I'll go hang out with my nephew and his friends.

Blogger allyn71 December 28, 2016 11:14 PM  

Seems like I missed something? Looks like Alt-retard get into the liquor cabinet again.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 28, 2016 11:26 PM  

I also wonder if there are not a few 'Agents Provocateur' among the Alt-White. Their faction would be the most attractive for infiltration.

Almost certainly.

So, I should probably follow Vox's lead and not care either, but I'll give one last fuck.

If you want to talk about the "JQ" anywhere other than the traditional alt-white sites you've been talking about it forever, let me offer the following advice:

Know your audience. Around here, most folks are Alt-West. The glue that binds us together is a desire to restore Western Civilization. The core nations that matter for Western Civ today are the American nation (or nations depending on your POV), the English nation, the French nation, the German nation, and... more and more I think we have to accept the rather surprising twist that the Russian nation is more and more important to Western Civ.

What do all those nations have in common? Well, among other things, the real-life Nazis caused immense harm to all of them, including the nation the Nazis hijacked. The Nazis were a disaster for the West, and that's not Jooooo propaganda, it's historical fact. Which is why anything that smells like LARPing in a Hugo Boss uniform isn't very popular on most Alt-West sites.

So, if you want to discuss the negative influence certain (((people))) have in western nations, you need to find a way to do it that doesn't make people think you've got Uncle Adolph's picture hanging in your bedroom, and doesn't make people think you have a fixation of Jews in particular.

I'd suggest first off finding a new phrase other than "the Jewish Question", one that perhaps focuses on clannishness, entryism, and immigration.

Don't make people think the 88 is more important to you than the 14. 'Cause the 88 did a lot to harm the 14.

Anonymous Stryker4570 December 28, 2016 11:31 PM  

On this and the previous pertinent thread, I see comment after comment 'diagnosing' the 'situation.' All based on what we've read online. Most (including myself) have no idea of what's really going on. Several years ago I had a blog of note in some quarters of the Church. A large mega church had disciplined a member. Through a confluence of errors this case became public. The person disciplined wrote a scathing rebuke of the congregation on line. I read it. The situation seemed an open and shut case of abuse of authority in the Church. The scandal spilled out in newspapers and some nation wide publications.I fired off a blog post siding with the disciplined member against that particular congregation. The next day one of the Pastors reached out to me by email and then the phone. While they protected the names and identity of some of the people involved they filled me in on the other side of the story. 90% of their 'discipline cases' involve the police. Think domestic abuse, sexual assault etc. In this case the 'offender' had been having a 'relationship' with an under age female in the church. He persisted in this relationship despite warnings from the girl's parents and church elders. Note that the offender, for all his public righteous indignation failed to mention that though he was 23 years old, his 'girlfriend' was 16. The offender's small group Pastor sent the offender's small group leader an email telling him to inform the small group members that the guy was kicked out. The small group leader sent a public reply all to a large portion of the church, making this guy's discipline public knowledge. It was a mess. The church refused to answer the offenders public accusations to protect the girl involved. Also the small group Pastor was disciplined and the small group leader stepped down. This was never made public either. But to anyone not on the inside of the situation, it looked like the church had wrongfully excommunicated this guy. I promptly wrote a public retraction but was bound by my word to keep the situation confidential. Many people were PISSED, thinking I had gone to the Churchian Dark Side. A very few (the right few) were totally supportive. I say all that to say this: When it comes to media, social or otherwise, you can never be sure of even half the story. What's the old quote 'It ain't what you know for certain that's dangerous, it's what you know for sure that just ain't so.."

Blogger Garuda1 December 28, 2016 11:32 PM  

@35 Of course White people. There's no other race that's being systematically targeted in such a way. I guess I was going for a more """inspiring""" sentence with "our people". This fight is in my blood as a proud Southern rebel.

Whether this is viewed as a purge or as the maturing process of a very fresh and high-energy movement, we gain nothing by fighting against each other. However, if someone attacks us or condemns the AltRight (as defined by the 16 points, not as defined by HuffPo), then I fully expect that person to receive retaliation. I understand why people are pissed at Cernovich and I don't blame them, but I don't want our side to get caught up in these tangential fights or agitations (Cernovich vs Vox? What do we gain from this?) when the greater enemy is completely unified in their evil degeneracy.

The JQ is the big one, and Men of the West addressed it nicely. We know that crossroad is coming, so spread the red pills.

Blogger Harsh December 28, 2016 11:33 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:I also wonder if there are not a few 'Agents Provocateur' among the Alt-White. Their faction would be the most attractive for infiltration.

Almost certainly.



Those knuckleheads could be infiltrated by Jon Stewart wearing a beer hat...

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 28, 2016 11:42 PM  

Lucky me! I don't even know to what this may be referencing. So I couldn't care if I wanted to!

Ignorance loves apathy.

But chin up, Vox. I care about you not caring, whatever it may be. Onward and sideways!

Blogger The Gray Man December 28, 2016 11:42 PM  

Vox, this is another reason you're heads and shoulders above even the other great people we both amire.

Keep it up.

Anonymous fop December 28, 2016 11:49 PM  

This post makes me want to juice up and inject my woman with some super-serum.

Blogger Jack Hanson December 29, 2016 12:00 AM  

For people who take every chance to remind us how Milo loves the dick, the Nazi LARPers sure do love their limp wristed drama.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 29, 2016 12:11 AM  

Those knuckleheads could be infiltrated by Jon Stewart wearing a beer hat...

Pabst or Anchor Steam?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents December 29, 2016 12:22 AM  

@54 Jack Amok
So, if you want to discuss the negative influence certain (((people))) have in western nations, you need to find a way to do it that doesn't make people think you've got Uncle Adolph's picture hanging in your bedroom, and doesn't make people think you have a fixation of Jews in particular.

The problem is tribalism. Arabs and a lot of other Muslims are tribal. Black Americans are tribal, just look at their voting pattern and what "snitches get stiches" means. The biggest tribe in the world? Han Chinese. Jews are tribal, blacks are tribal, Indians with dots are tribal. Native Indians are tribal but we have a modus vivendi with them. White Europeans and Americans are not anything like tribal on this scale, which makes them perfect hosts for tribalist groups to leech off of.

The tribal peoples are Others. They aren't Us. At some level they know it, and far too many of Us don't. Nazi LARPing does nothing about this.

Blogger Lovekraft December 29, 2016 12:23 AM  

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Blogger Lovekraft December 29, 2016 12:29 AM  

@23: I grew up hearing the expression "You're confusing me with someone who gives a fuck."

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 29, 2016 12:35 AM  

huh, what did Mike do?
I don't follow much, Cernovich never really was alt-right any more than Milo.

Anonymous Quicksilver75 December 29, 2016 12:36 AM  

Great post. You are probably too lenient as is with posting comments. Suggest you have a special "trash can" comments section where you dump annoying emails & posts, and let gossipy, gamma types chat away. This can be observed on occasion in the same way that one might watch squirrels battling chipmunks over territory.

Blogger Lovekraft December 29, 2016 12:42 AM  

Sites like this offered a refuge from the PC miasma that rendered us spiritually and intellectually drained. Not to mention the alienation being in a society that promotes every other ethnic group except our own, and provides examples of how those of us who do stick our necks out get quickly made examples of.

But if the natural evolution is going to happen, and we have a choice of either staying in the same mindset (thus become stale and irrelevant) or adapting.

But adapting does not mean we, for example, climb on the Milo bus, because fighting against the New Age ideology is a core part of our movement.

If we lose a few skirmishes while refining and advancing towards sovereignty, that is fine and expected. I just don't worry too much about these squabbles as I (and many others) know what the fight is about. We've had many years to think about it.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 1:02 AM  

Mountain Man wrote:

Ok, Ok ..in the interest of impartiality:

"Whether I’m at the office, at home, or on the road, I always have a stack of books I’m looking forward to reading. "– Bill Gates


What an insufferable prick.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 1:03 AM  

Now that I think about it...Gates' once said his favorite book was Catcher in the Rye.

Blogger Happy LP9 December 29, 2016 1:06 AM  

Kick ass helpful reality check post; I think everyone else knows but perhaps its helpful to point out Vox Day's blog was never a safe spacer rabbit gamma bitch boy zone.

Thank you for a wonderful blog with great super intel, never dumbed down content, great reading and helpful/wonderful individuals here. I am thankful,thankful the blog is going GREAT since 2003. I am so, so proud of our gen xers and also proud of everyone else!

Blogger Happy LP9 December 29, 2016 1:08 AM  

69, its like an INTJ/ISTJ zone (or even the r and k selection types) of decompression of reality, facts, stats and honesty.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 1:12 AM  

allyn71 wrote:Seems like I missed something? Looks like Alt-retard get into the liquor cabinet again.

Vox said to stop using that term as part of a previous ceasefire. Get back in line.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 1:17 AM  

Geeks want popular appeal but they hate MOPs? News at 11.

Anonymous Nick December 29, 2016 2:18 AM  

The dividing line is Christianity. Western Civilization won't be saved by atheists or mushy "spirituality". Allies are great, but it's becoming clear that parts of the Alt-Right are more interested in self-aggrandizement and infighting. At the end of the day I'm a Catholic, that's where my culture, history and traditions rest. The Alt-Right will never have a strong enough cachet to achieve anything on its own without Christianity at the forefront. http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2016/12/alt-right-needs-to-get-spiritual-or.html

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros December 29, 2016 4:01 AM  

@78 Cernovich did his best to distance himself from those things, and neither Cernovich nor Vox was saying those things while arranging to host an event that would need an amenable venue. Obviously, it's more complicated than "can you say it or can't you?"

Blogger VD December 29, 2016 4:08 AM  

On the plus side, this new policy is also giving me the opportunity to spam a good portion of the left side of the Bell Curve here.

They can say whatever they like on their own sites, but they're done here. I've been through this with feminists, SJWs, hasbaras, Soros trolls, and Muslims. Getting rid of the Nazi drama queens is a piece of cake by comparison.

Blogger Mike X December 29, 2016 4:19 AM  

@Ezekiel Cassandros, it actually is completely irrelevant, given that the inner circles of the movement don't care and the mainstream media will see DeploraBall as if it's the Wannsee conference anyway. So what is the gain here? Receiving congratulations from cucks and leftists?
(People were really pissed off at this. What Cernovich actually did doesn't matter as much as the optics of it, and according to that, he looks like an egocentric hypocrite. Look up what happened to people branded as hypocrites during the French revolution as an example. Clearly, we're not talking guillotine here but proposing that this type of behavior didn't do Cernovich damage, and that he's not responsible for it, is downright moronic. People remember stuff like this, it's part of our survival instict.)

Blogger Mike X December 29, 2016 4:22 AM  

"On the plus side, this new policy is also giving me the opportunity to spam a good portion of the left side of the Bell Curve here."

Everyone who doesn't agree with you on this is a troglodyte and a Nazi? What are you, an SJW?

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 29, 2016 4:22 AM  

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Blogger MATT December 29, 2016 4:24 AM  

Hey Vox did you hear..?




















Debbie Reynolds died.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 29, 2016 4:28 AM  

Objectively speaking here, do y'all suppose this movement is changing, now that Trump made it? Will we go soft again, and the Left sneaks back into greater dominance once more?

Also, I agree with @69

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 29, 2016 4:31 AM  

@71 Back in the day, they would have had the drama beaten out of them in the Hitler Jügend.

Blogger Shimshon December 29, 2016 5:01 AM  

Is Mike really (((Mike)))? News to me.

Blogger VD December 29, 2016 5:11 AM  

Everyone who doesn't agree with you on this is a troglodyte and a Nazi? What are you, an SJW?

I don't know about being troglodytes or Nazis, but everyone who is going to attack me or anyone else over this sort of thing here is definitely a drama queen who is spammed and banned. I don't care if retards read the blog or not, and I definitely don't want any drama queens commenting here. They can posture and vogue somewhere else.

I don't know if I can make this sufficiently clear: I don't care.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 29, 2016 5:36 AM  

For Millenials: from Madonna's Dick Tracy soundtrack: Vogue

Blogger Mike X December 29, 2016 5:57 AM  

@VD

There's a clear difference between attacking and critizing. The way Cernovich handled this was a mistake and if he couldn't predict the fallout, he's not as smart as you say he is. Now he's a derogatory meme. Tell me how that's beneficial to anyone.

(To be clear, I don't care about Baked Alaska or DeploraBall whatsoever. I care about not undermining the cohesion of the movement)

P.S. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of trolls infiltrated the event with the express intention to throw up Roman salutes.
As banal as this sounds, all of it could have been avoided by being more polite. Sometimes it's that simple.

Anonymous Rocklea December 29, 2016 6:33 AM  

@49 Stryker4570, it's a good point well made.
And considering the horror of the reality we face, all else pales by comparison.

Blogger Mighty Lou December 29, 2016 7:03 AM  

Donald Trump, a man who most of us here supported and voted for president of the United States, his daughter converted to Judiasm, his son in law is Jewish, his grand children are Jewish. This was no secret, and therefore it should be no surprise to anyone when his administration takes a pro Israeli/Jewish position. Hasn't anyone been reading Breitbart lately? Alt-Right is a big tent.

Blogger VD December 29, 2016 7:10 AM  

The way Cernovich handled this was a mistake and if he couldn't predict the fallout, he's not as smart as you say he is. Now he's a derogatory meme. Tell me how that's beneficial to anyone.

Perhaps it was. Perhaps he isn't.

Now he, and I, and various others who have been watching this, know to steer well clear of the Nazi drama queens and everyone associated with them. None of us need you. And the fact that we may all share some goals is beside the point now. It is apparent that all you're going to do is get in the way and attack us every time you disagree with anything.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I won't attack you. I will simply continue to do what I have done for most of the last 15 years and ignore you. I was never the one asking for interviews and so forth, you guys were asking me.

Perhaps you think that's beneficial. Perhaps you don't. I repeat: I don't care.

Blogger Remo - Vile Faceless Minion #99 December 29, 2016 7:22 AM  

I care about the train... is the train okay? WHAT ABOUT THE TRAIN?!?!

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable December 29, 2016 7:22 AM  

I don't know much about the event that was planned, but I do notice that big gatherings with a political tone have potential disaster written all over them these days. They're an open invitation to infiltrators, drama queens and people looking to distort the message with a big media-covered disaster meme (Roosh, anyone?). The last successful one I can think of was the Vox/Mike/Milo Paris event, but that was small scale and not heavily promoted, IIRC. Also, at that point in time, the Alt-Right did not have a giant target painted on its forehead by the Dems and liberal media.

All to say, get-togethers are a dangerous luxury these days. I love the idea of a few Ilk/VFM in a bar somewhere from time to time, but anything larger may be asking for trouble. Safer and more effective to continue to subvert the Left from behind the keyboard.

Blogger Nate December 29, 2016 7:48 AM  

The title of this post should have been Burning Down Omegaville

Blogger Koanic December 29, 2016 8:17 AM  

Cernovich challenged his globalist co-ethnics to elect Trump, thus averting a white nuclear brother-war that would've handed the stars to the Chinese if it didn't end human technological advancement altogether.

Anyone who can't let him have his party in peace is a jackbooted jackass and deserves the name Alt-Retard.

Nazis and Jews are just two sides of the same idiot overreaching coin. 6 gorillion Morgenthau, Never Again!

It's EXACTLY the same. Jews crash NPI's party to throw Nazi salutes. Baked Degenerate crashes Jew Cernovich's party with JQ tweets.

Nazi = Jew. Just make out already.

Blogger Mike X December 29, 2016 8:29 AM  

@VD

The idea that you somehow hold control over the movement or that you are more important than Nazi drama queens is delusional to say the least. As far as Milo and Cernovich go, sure, they are more popular as brands, but that's exactly what they are - brands. Neither stands for any coherent set of ideas that's new in any way. They are both performers and as such they have their value, especially in red pilling normies, but the moment you substitute performers for thinkers is when your movement devolves into nihilism and empty posturing.

One final note: I get that on the meta-level you can disassociate from "Nazis" to legitimize your position in the mainstream while still working towards a common goal. I get semiotics. "X denounces Nazis" makes for a virtuous display on the literal level and "but the real Nazis hate me like few others" is a good defense. Perhaps that's what you are doing now. In fact, I hope.

Blogger Gordon December 29, 2016 9:15 AM  

Honestly, calling the idiots "left side of the bell curve" is one of the most apt descriptions. The NAZIs were a disaster. They had to keep invading to suck up resources, because their own economy was unsustainable.

Somehow it never occurred to Dolph and Heinrich that they were destroying the very people who would be needed to build the agrarian paradise fatherland they dreamed of. The young, strong, smart men who died by the millions on the eastern front, never to be replaced.

Of course, every other flavor of socialism is the same: there's always a bunch of idiots who will tell you, "It just wasn't implemented properly. Now if me and my pals are in charge...."

I guess I need to be vaguely aware of what the idiots are doing, just as I need to keep an eye on the lunatic neighbor down the block who thinks the city is deliberately poisoning him. But I don't want to devote any more attention than that.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) December 29, 2016 9:19 AM  

Vox, did you hear that Riker was offered command of his own ship?

Blogger Mighty Lou December 29, 2016 9:20 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSNQrdVXT7o&t=220s

Anonymous JamesD December 29, 2016 9:33 AM  

@89
VD does not claim to hold control over the "movement". He claims to hold control over his blog. And he doesn't care about these events. What he cares about is that he detests drama queens. It's as simple as that. He Doesn't Care.

Anonymous trogs December 29, 2016 9:41 AM  

I think it's wise to quit defending Cernovich. I get that you feel loyalty, but it's not your battle, Vox.

And let's be honest, countersignaling and censoring (mild...) addresses of the JQ - and in order to make sure you get to keep some booking of some stupid seating venue! - is very weak sauce.

Blogger Markku December 29, 2016 9:47 AM  

Mike X wrote:One final note: I get that on the meta-level you can disassociate from "Nazis" to legitimize your position in the mainstream while still working towards a common goal. I get semiotics. "X denounces Nazis" makes for a virtuous display on the literal level and "but the real Nazis hate me like few others" is a good defense. Perhaps that's what you are doing now. In fact, I hope.

No, we in fact do despise you.

Blogger Koanic December 29, 2016 9:49 AM  

Q: What's gayer than AIDS?
A: Millenial Nazis.

Blogger Markku December 29, 2016 9:55 AM  

It's a developmental phase. I grew up in a town with among the highest neo-Nazi percentage in the country (though I do know one that has even higher).

OpenID elijahrhodes December 29, 2016 9:56 AM  

I'm not a Cernovich fan so I didn't pay any attention to this dustup, but after reading the two threads here I have a few observations:

1. Vox is many things, but un-loyal to his friends is not one of them.

2. Cernovich lacked much wisdom taking his fight with an employee public. I employ lots of people and that sort of thing never, ever (ever) ends well. Doesn't matter if you're right or telling the truth, you'll look petty.

3. When you publicly walk back things you tweeted a year ago, don't be surprised when people call you out for it. The internet has a long memory.

Blogger Koanic December 29, 2016 10:04 AM  

I actually am sympathetic to Baked Alaska flipping his lid upon being Jew-pilled. It's a heady brew for a kid.

The problem was his misrepresentations and doubling down afterwards, to whip up persecution against a hero benefactor of the white race at his own victory party!

Anonymous trogs December 29, 2016 10:12 AM  

@99: Yeah, Baked was being a dummy about it too. TBH, both parties handled this poorly, the correct move here is to sit back and shut up while the retards scuffle and bang about in the hallway.

Blogger Student in Blue December 29, 2016 10:12 AM  

"B-b-but, we NEED to have Vox disavow people I don't like! This is really, really super important!"

Such strong independent thinkers these guys are. They don't need no leader! *snap snap*

Yet it's somehow really important to get Vox to just denounce the people they want. It's like they can't just let people go on their way.

Monomania, everyone.

Blogger Koanic December 29, 2016 10:31 AM  

@100 Absolutely not. Baked told a Big Lie. If Cernovich had responded tepidly, people would've split the difference and never trusted Cernovich again, or outright believed Baked.

He had to be destroyed. And was.

Blogger Mike X December 29, 2016 10:41 AM  

Given the general level of insight in this comment section and the cultist behavior demonstrated, I'm starting to wonder at whom exactly are some of Vox's higher-level concepts directed. Hopefully the wise silent reader.

Blogger Koanic December 29, 2016 10:45 AM  

Don't be a coy little bitch, Mike. If you want to IQ-brag, post the number.

Anonymous fop December 29, 2016 10:47 AM  

Does no one see the irony of banning someone from the "Deploraball" for acting deplorably?

Blogger Student in Blue December 29, 2016 11:01 AM  

@105. fop

Considering that the group of people originally called "a basket of deplorables" are far more upright than the rest, it's par for the course.

Blogger BunE22 December 29, 2016 11:15 AM  

@105

I thought it ironic to hold the Deploraball at the National Press Club. Isn't that like the belly of the beast?

Blogger The Rev December 29, 2016 11:26 AM  

Breaking News: Public Figures Who Repeatedly Say "I'm Not Alt-Right" are not Alt-Right. Details at Eleven.

Clearly, these people who are not and never were Alt-Right are monstrous traitors to the Alt-Right cause.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 11:37 AM  

VD wrote:Getting rid of the Nazi drama queens is a piece of cake by comparison.

Their comments are so similar they might as well be using form letters.

DON"T YOU KNOW CERNOVICH IS A JEW

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 11:45 AM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:I don't know much about the event that was planned, but I do notice that big gatherings with a political tone have potential disaster written all over them these days. They're an open invitation to infiltrators, drama queens and people looking to distort the message with a big media-covered disaster meme (Roosh, anyone?). The last successful one I can think of was the Vox/Mike/Milo Paris event, but that was small scale and not heavily promoted, IIRC.

And heavily policed by Vox's hired hands. The other exception to this rule is Trump. Good observation here and the comparison is food for thought.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 29, 2016 11:53 AM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:The last successful one I can think of was the Vox/Mike/Milo Paris event, but that was small scale and not heavily promoted, IIRC. Also, at that point in time, the Alt-Right did not have a giant target painted on its forehead by the Dems and liberal media.

IIRC, a deranged SJW (BIRM) made a paranoid delusional tweet about it to his followers, subsequent to which a fake bomb threat was called in to the venue, and something about a disabled attendee and stairs. And also it was a Gamergate event, and as such nominally apolitical (at least with regard to left/right) to everyone but Orwellian whackos that actually police their own thoughts by "mindkilling" themselves. So, no.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 11:54 AM  

Markku wrote:Mike X wrote:One final note: I get that on the meta-level you can disassociate from "Nazis" to legitimize your position in the mainstream while still working towards a common goal. I get semiotics. "X denounces Nazis" makes for a virtuous display on the literal level and "but the real Nazis hate me like few others" is a good defense. Perhaps that's what you are doing now. In fact, I hope.

No, we in fact do despise you.


Because fascism is a stupid religion.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 11:58 AM  

elijahrhodes wrote:2. Cernovich lacked much wisdom taking his fight with an employee public. I employ lots of people and that sort of thing never, ever (ever) ends well. Doesn't matter if you're right or telling the truth, you'll look petty.

Not just petty in this case, malicious character assassination from a would-be new media figure is unreasonable in the extreme.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 29, 2016 12:02 PM  

Koanic wrote:Nazi = Jew. Just make out already.

Lol, it's more of a BDSM relationship though.

Blogger Ransom Smith December 29, 2016 12:09 PM  

I have no dog in this fight.

But it should be noted Cern has pissed off one too many people. The 4chan memers have all but declared war given how he handled everything.

Whether he was right or not makes no difference. He acted like an ass and is about to pay for it.

Blogger Jack Hanson December 29, 2016 12:22 PM  

Who gives a fuck if 4Chan declares "war"? I thought it was the left that was full of spergs with unwarranted self importance, but some of you are sure dead set on showing that tumblrinas aren't the only one up their own asses.

Blogger Scott6584 December 29, 2016 12:25 PM  

As always, the host gets to determine the rules of conduct in his own house.

Blogger Ransom Smith December 29, 2016 12:26 PM  

Who gives a fuck if 4Chan declares "war"? I thought it was the left that was full of spergs with unwarranted self importance, but some of you are sure dead set on showing that tumblrinas aren't the only one up their own asses.

Yes, because I said it was me. Reading comprehension, learn some.

Blogger VFM #7634 December 29, 2016 2:15 PM  

My two cents:

Cernovich is unfortunately a little bit too infected with the usual normie anti-racist B.S. and still has a compulsion to virtue-signal at times, but it is fairly mild and definitely not at the level of a cuckservative -- otherwise he would not be enthusiastically backing Trump.

Overall, I think he was in the right here, even if he didn't handle it quite correctly. The virtue-signaling hurt him some since it's precisely what we in the alt-right hate and find despicable, even if he subsequently decided to remove it.

Anonymous Maj December 29, 2016 2:32 PM  

All this drama merely because one man had the temerity to state the fact that 90% of the media is controlled by Jews. Cue Cernovich freakout.

I thought y'all's mantra was "we don't care?"

Blogger Student in Blue December 29, 2016 2:55 PM  

I thought y'all's mantra was "we don't care?"

Repeat after me, very very slowly.

Mike Cernovich is not Alt-Right. Neither is he a VFM, whose mantra is "we don't care". He has never claimed to be either.

Do I need to repeat that a little slower and with a picture book, or did that sink in?

Blogger S1AL December 29, 2016 3:04 PM  

Look, I don't particularly give a damn about Cernovich. His work doesn't appeal to me on any level. That said...

Get the hell over it. This might have been handled better. That's true of basically every human action. However, this is like the Dixie Chicks trying to take on Toby Keith. Or, for those of you with that particular fetish, Taylor Swift bitching in song form about Kanye West. Not only is it thoroughly stupid to go after someone that much bigger than you who shares a fan base, it makes you look like a whiny loser.

From the outside perspective, that's what this looks like. Cernovich responded to stupidity in fairly typical Cernovich fashion, and a bunch of Nazi-LARPers have responded by reminding everyone that, hey, guys, JEW.

Yeah, we don't care. Now, personally, I'm kinda a fan of the lot of you proving that I'm right about how completely useless (and even detrimental) you are as ostensible "allies". But at this point it's just sad.

Blogger Jed Mask December 29, 2016 4:03 PM  

"This is not, and has never been, a free speech zone. I'll cheerfully ban you for annoying me or trying to waste my time. And I have a low tolerance for gammas, particularly gamma midwits.

I'm done trying to talk sense into the senseless, or to explain rationales to the irrational. You'd think I, of all people, would know better."

... And you don't. Hey, HEY now Mr. Vox don't say that: 'I don't care'. Gotta have PATIENCE, *PATIENCE* man lol... Yeah, I've fallen for the same ol' trap many-a-time too. Just say, "Uninterested in engaging with mindless fools but love ya, best to ya and leave me alone in PEACE" and move on lol.

Yeah, a circle jerk of willful ignorance is no fun to deal with (unless it amuses you like me. Haha.) but I think it's good sometimes to at least let folks "vent out" their inner thoughts online whether you agree or disagree with their commenting.

Thing is, I can *CHOOSE* to respond, reply back; reprove or rebuke pestering individuals intending to give me "grief" and not let it touch my personal emotional boundaries in my real life. Folks gonna talk it's up to *YOU* how you'll *RESPOND* to their speaking is what I've learned and am learning still...

If truth's truth gotta accept, but if ignorance is being pushed on me I can either respond or "let alone" see it, study it if worth it and leave alone.

It's how you want to deal with it, truly.

I ask *GOD* for wisdom in how I should respond to certain people in certain situations as these. Amen.

~ Bro. Jed

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 29, 2016 4:25 PM  

Jed Mask wrote:Yeah, a circle jerk of willful ignorance is no fun to deal with (unless it amuses you like me. Haha.) but I think it's good sometimes to at least let folks "vent out" their inner thoughts online whether you agree or disagree with their commenting.
It's not just Vox personally having to deal with them. He usually doesn't bother.
It's the community that Vox has built here, and what tedious stupid disingenuous people, Hasbara trolls and SJWs do to try to destroy that community.

BTW, has anyone taken out a contract on Scoobius yet? I'm sick and cucking tired of his Gamma performance art.

Blogger Jack Hanson December 29, 2016 4:52 PM  

Ransom -

Keep back pedaling bruh.

Blogger Ransom Smith December 29, 2016 5:48 PM  

Ransom -

Keep back pedaling bruh.


Are you dumb, and stupid?

Seriously. I don't give one single iota. BA was stupid. Cern was stupid. Both are now wasting everyone's time with this. Someone slap both of them, tell them to man up and quit this foolishness.

Blogger JCclimber December 29, 2016 6:14 PM  

It is very revealing how people respond to these things. Take Ivan Throne's response, for example. Direct, points out the lessons to be learned, doesn't speculate beyond the readily observable facts, and absolutely refuses to let drama distract from his mission.

Men who have a mission, don't obsess over other men like women do. Every man who sperges out on this type of thing demonstrates their lack of focus and mission in life. They are like gammas, and women, and youngsters.

And have difficulty relating to the truth "we. don't. care". because they care very much and cannot relate to alpha, sigma and delta thought patterns.

Blogger Jack Hanson December 29, 2016 6:27 PM  

Random

Yeah you're so above it you've gotta write words words about it.

Tell me more about anon declaring "war" LMBO.

Blogger VD December 29, 2016 8:25 PM  

Yeah, a circle jerk of willful ignorance is no fun to deal with (unless it amuses you like me. Haha.) but I think it's good sometimes to at least let folks "vent out" their inner thoughts online whether you agree or disagree with their commenting.

It is not. This is not a place for anyone to vent. Do it somewhere else.

We don't want or need any bloody gamma drama.

Anonymous Ellipsis Lacuna December 29, 2016 8:50 PM  

"Not only is it thoroughly stupid to go after someone that much bigger than you who shares a fan base, it makes you look like a whiny loser."

Tori Amos did something like that to Morrissey a few years ago. He allegedly dissed her backstage, but instead of telling him off directly she made the incident known to the whole venue while on stage.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants December 29, 2016 9:51 PM  

Boy, take a week or so off from the internet, and not a single site I regularly visit makes any sense. I think I'll go back to staying offline for a little while longer, at least until everyone's menstrual cycles have ceased, lol.

(I get to say stuff like that, being a girl & all)

I don't think I care, either, Vox.

Anonymous JAMES December 29, 2016 10:42 PM  

Stupid people are stupid.

My God are they stupid.

Fuck em.

So many people are 100% more likely to attack their own than the obvious enemies it makes me sick.

Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.

If you want to act like a teenage girl while civilisation burns I really don't give a shit what you think.

Blogger CaseyD December 30, 2016 2:57 AM  

Vox, your convoluted defense of mike looks kinda gamma.

Anonymous Julian December 30, 2016 1:22 PM  

I don't care!

But I'm still going to poke your eye with a "I don't know what happened but my guess is that the guy who makes me money was 150% right" post.

Don't reply to that post! I don't care!

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