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Monday, December 12, 2016

Ignoring the irrelevant

The Trump Presidency has been amazing, and the God-Emperor hasn't even ascended to the Cherry Blossom Throne yet. Now he's ignoring and delegitimizing the EU, and correctly so, since it's neither a state nor a government:
Europe WHO? Trump's snub to Brussels as he names Britain but NOT the EU among key allies

DONALD TRUMP delivered a major snub to the beleaguered European Union today in a further sign of the marginal role Brussels can expect to play in his foreign policy plans.Mr Trump was a frequent critic of the beleaguered bloc during his campaign to become the leader of the Western world, and has described his shock White House victory as "Brexit plus, plus, plus".

But he conspicuously failed to mention a single EU state in his roll call of global players, further indicating that relations with the European Union will be low down on the new US administration's list of priorities.

And responding to media reports criticising his contact with global leaders today, the billionaire tycoon hit back: "I have received and taken calls from many foreign leaders…Russia, UK, China, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and more. I am always available to them."

His pointed snub to EU member states will send further shivers down the collective spine of Europe's elite, which is scrambling to formulate an effective response to the populist uprising taking place across the globe.

In particular it represents the huge reversal of fortunes facing Germany, coming just days after outgoing President Barack Obama praised Chancellor Angela Merkel as his "closest ally".

And it reaffirms that Britain will be a key ally to the self-avowed anglophile's new administration, coming a week after eyebrows were raised when he placed Theresa May 10th on his initial ring-round of international leaders.

Stunned European Union chiefs have been thrown into panic mode since Mr Trump's election to the globe's most powerful post, issuing a series of garbled and contradictory statements as they watch the cosy EU-US relations built up under Mr Obama crumble before their eyes.
The EU already lacks democratic legitimacy. If the God-Emperor continues to delegitimize it and its member-states, it will crumble faster than the Soviet Union. I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO, which would serve as a sufficient trigger for the fall of the fraudulent Brussels-based Euro elite.

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Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 12, 2016 4:57 AM  

With Turkey preparing to unleash an invasion of unarmed beggars on Europe, it's clear that NATO is irreparably broken.

Blogger weka December 12, 2016 4:59 AM  

You cannot have a funded parasitical class and a military, for there is only room for one such group in any society.

Sane societies subsidize their army and navy.

Insane ones pay their enemies to live within their borders.

Europe generally returns to Sanity. The US may. Under Trump.

But the elite and their democratic minions will always choose foolishness and degeneration. Don't be like them.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore December 12, 2016 5:01 AM  

November 8th is the date in which the Cold War between globalists and nationalists began. Since then, this soft conflict has heated dramatically. I cannot wait to see what happens tomorrow.

Blogger JACIII December 12, 2016 5:10 AM  

I don't see the elites just fading away, though they sure act as is they are caught continually flat footed by large events.

I expect they will use the EU military push to entangle client states as much as possible and declare the US and NATO nonresponsive to the threat of !Putin!.

Did the EU not act as if treaties were the highest goal of mankind I would expect it to kill NATO dead and set itself up as a necessary bulwark against invasion.

Blogger Horn of the Mark December 12, 2016 5:12 AM  

Stephan has conjectured that the migrant crisis is the elite's way of providing an easily accessible enemy for the native populace to vent their anger on when the financial system collapses. Better migrants than those responsible for both the collapse AND the migrants, they reason.

Strikes me as elaborate, but maybe the least ridiculous explanation? It's also hard to believe they're so naive as to think either that they will magically transform these people into something useful or that living in a few walled compounds of opulence amongst a sea of violent poverty is a viable future.

Is there a better way they somehow think this will play out?

Anonymous John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project December 12, 2016 5:26 AM  

As a Blasiaroon (one-eighth Blasian) White woman who had to borrow her way into a PhD program in Rhetoric outside Chicago, I am deeply disturbed by the poor quality of critical writing skills displayed in this article.

Your momma's name ain't "Beleaguered", so don't keep repeating it every five seconds like you wanna get yo chin popped.

I's about to ask who the hell the "Stunned European Union chiefs" be, but then I was overwhelmed to realize they probably don't know who the subject of this sentence is, since I'm thinking the author wants to call DONALD TRUMP (Saffires and Diamonds unto his name yo!) is "garbled and contradictory" because we done already KNOW they won't call dey precious EUSSR leaders and Demoncrats "garbled and contradictory" and they done spent this entire article trying to make Donald Trump sound confused and petty and out of touch, yet this dumb bitch done misrote her whole sentence so it don't even make no sense!

And no I ain't even gonna tell what the byline is cause I don't care! If it quack like a bitch, it be a bitch to me!

It's dagged hard sometimes for the fifteen-sixteenths of me that comes from people who forged their grammar on a glacier to bite my tongue but I've about had ENUF of this Scalzified pussywillow misaggravating the Queen's language!

And speaking of duh queen JOHN SCALZI UNFINISHED ASIMOV PROJECT is now a real thang and if I can get my Nescafe fix back on I'mma try and write A Colored Woman's Guide to Donald Trump's Erection to teach these sore losers that Trump's erection, though huge, IS NOT going to split us in two!

And if I don't finish it that's cool cause Scalzi ain't finish yet either so either way I'mma keep this Holiday META-MAGA! Peace

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 12, 2016 5:33 AM  

@Horn of the Mark

Denver, Colorado D.U.M.B.s(Deep Underground Military Bases) South Island NZ, Tri-borders in South American Cone and Antarctica, they've really been focusing on Antarctica for some reason in the last year. There is nothing aboveground in the Northern Hemisphere they plan on bugging out to once the bombs drop and the zombie virus is released. Or that was the plan anyways.

Problem of course is, as Al from Bay Shore said, we have Nationalist factions in both visible and Deep State that are working globally(heh) with other nationalist factions against the globalists. Defections from the Globalists to the Nationalists are probably picking up steam rapidly, with that comes _information_. What we see is probably just 1% of the battles behind the scenes. I suspect our world is going to be unrecognizable in ten years.

Blogger Lovekraft December 12, 2016 5:43 AM  

And I hope he gives a blunt, severe wakeup call to Canadian liberals thinking they can taunt and provoke their southern neighbors/act as relief valve for the U.S. sjw activists.

Trump needs to remind our urban smug elitists that without the United States, they wouldn't have such excess from which to push their useless and divisive ideology.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 12, 2016 5:43 AM  

@4

JACIII: I don't see the elites just fading away, though they sure act as is they are caught continually flat footed by large events.

I'd love to see the US pull out of NATO. That'd be great, in my opinion.

However, I do believe what will happen is that the EU elite will create some sort of brand new entanglement--as they're wont to do--in order to pull disengaged parties back into a fray they'd rather not involve themselves in.

Anonymous Dyskord December 12, 2016 5:45 AM  

There are many instances of civilizations subsidizing and providing land and sucour to the invading barbarians within their desmesne. Even Rome did it. Of course it always happens when the civilization is stagnant, crumbling and within its decline.
We face nothing new. An elitest class wholly seperate from the people they govern,living in a self created reality perpetuated by their wealth and insulation from the general populace.
The question is will we triumph and restore new vigour to Westerm civ.

Blogger Achilles December 12, 2016 5:53 AM  

I don't think Trump will pull out of NATO. I think he'll turn the caterpillar into a butterfly. Trump seems to have a knack for taking the old bones of something and transforming into something better. He didn't run as an independent. He used the decaying GOP as his vehicle to the White House.

With regards to NATO we've already seen him call for change. Sensibly, he demanded they focus on terrorism instead of the USSR. They capitulated. It was a scalp he displayed the entire campaign. I think NATO will evolve into a rapid, mobile force to quell problems in the surrounding area. Mainly Northern Africa. It will also require the European nations to pay a much larger share of its cost and troops.

This will provide three positive outcomes for Trump. Namely he can still take out dirtbags and put boots on the ground without wasting our blood and treasure. It also eliminates future Benghazis. But it also reduces tension with Russia if they aren't seen as the cold war boogey man. Not to mention Flynn and Mattis are probably up to date on those Rand war games you mentioned a while back. Why use NATO to defend Europe against Russia if it won't work? It also provides cover for Nationalist movements in European nations to shut down the "refugee" invasion. If NATO can reduce conflict in that theater there's no legitimate reason for people to flea.

This is all off the cuff. And I still haven't had my coffee. I could be very wrong. But when NATO starts sinking "refugee" boats I can say I told you so.

Blogger SteelPalm December 12, 2016 5:58 AM  

Pulling out of NATO is a very exciting prospect.

Don't know if it will actually happen (I have learned the hard way to be cautious and circumspect about all leaders, even the God Emperor), but Trump hinted at it during his sensational RNC speech, and if he pulls it off, it will be a wonderful success indeed.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 12, 2016 5:58 AM  

Is there a better way they somehow think this will play out?

Don't know, don't care. As far as I'm concerned they're crazy at best, and there is a disturbing amount of nondisconfirming of the Jew traitor hypothesis.

Anonymous JustAnotherPairOfEyes December 12, 2016 6:05 AM  

The next step for Europe is envy when they watch the economic recovery in the US under Trump. That will be what tips over the elections and destroys the EU. Should happen in late 2017.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 12, 2016 6:32 AM  

JustAnotherPairOfEyes, I expect a reorientation toward the Five Eyes trustworthy Anglosphere.

Blogger stevo December 12, 2016 6:37 AM  

Canada is dreaming. This morning's CBC news is about how hard the war in Syria is on women

Anonymous trev006 December 12, 2016 6:43 AM  

Huh, I thought I made a comment here, but it got deleted. It wasn't spam or anything. Anyone know what could have happened?

Blogger Kryten 2X4B 523P December 12, 2016 7:00 AM  

The EU is effectively the Republic of Haven from the Honor Harrington series. Wonder if thats where David Weber got the inspiration.

Anonymous Yann December 12, 2016 7:16 AM  

" I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO, which would serve as a sufficient trigger for the fall of the fraudulent Brussels-based Euro elite."

Europe has no army. Unless Greece (because they know well what Turkey can do), Europe has been for decades under the US umbrella.

If US gets out of the NATO there's two options:

1. EU keep having no army and sooner or later we're gonna enjoy more migration... now with guns.

2. EU build an army... which is VERY expensive. Who's gonna pay for it? The overtaxed middle class? The only way to do so would be to cut off social welfare... multiculturalism in Europe is not violent yet because Europe pays the welfare bill every month. Cut off it... and cities will burn.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 12, 2016 7:24 AM  

Trev006, same thing happened to me, and the comment I was replying to is gone. So that's probably why.

Blogger Phillip George December 12, 2016 7:35 AM  

Witch hunters have been vilified ostracised marginalised hounded hunted threatened persecuted pursued plundered labeled libelled slandered scourged disempowered victimised taunted bullied intimidated marked sidelined, and as yet they smell like roses.
This is fun.

Blogger Sagramore December 12, 2016 7:39 AM  

@16 The CBC covers all parts of Metro including Scarborough, Etobicoke, North York, East York, AND the old city of York.

Blogger Phillip George December 12, 2016 7:41 AM  

Just a foot note. Brother Nathanael has rather cunningly pointed out that the very people who promote the separation of church and state are all for the promotion or synagogue and mosque rights.
Muhammad would have been comfortable at Comet Pizza..
And still no forensic proof of life on Julian Assange? Renditioned dead, or drugged?
You are in a war this very moment.

Blogger Lazarus December 12, 2016 7:43 AM  

I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO,

Could be, but all his statements to date indicate he wants it restructured financially and strategically. If the other members balk at that, then maybe he would do so.

At which point the corporate media would start publishing fake news about russian troops raping all the Baltic women and smashing babies heads against brick walls.

Blogger Basil Makedon December 12, 2016 7:57 AM  

I don't think scrapping NATO is wise; however, we should absolutely kick Turkey out of NATO. Of course, we need to be very careful about that since we have nuclear warheads in Turkey and Erdogan could easily overpower the security detail assigned to protect them.

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 12, 2016 7:58 AM  

Whoa....off topic but AWESOME! German Crusaders marching!

https://mobile.twitter.com/Stevenwhirsch99/status/805857296895119360

Blogger dienw December 12, 2016 7:59 AM  

The elites' and the Uniparty are moving swiftly to curtail free speech and the freedom of the press. This blog and other "fringe" news sites are going to be shut down under a bill sponsored by McCain, Ryan, and Mitchell.

Link to bill

Blogger Jack Ward December 12, 2016 8:07 AM  

Trump is cunning enough to stay in Nato and restructure to his own specs and uses. Keep beating the horse while it keeps making noise and craps out nutrients for the soil. When its effective usefulness is gone, or leaving it would advance overseas strategies [Russia] then bye bye. I suspect Russia would think most kindly of the USA should we leave Nato. That could promote closer, more productive ties with America in one of the real battles to be fought. Muslim influence and terrorism. Trump may become known as the reincarnation of Charles, the Hammer, Martel. Bout time too.

Anonymous Bz December 12, 2016 8:18 AM  

It may take a few years to rebuild, but it's not like the EU countries don't have the money to spend on their armies. It's just that they currently have more important causes to support (migrants).

Anonymous Bz December 12, 2016 8:29 AM  

How annoying, google ate my fine comment on "stunned" EUcrats. Oh well.

The Turk's rabble should normally be met with a hail of lead and fire, of course. We note that the concept of "asylum" has by now been made meaningless, or rather, malignant, through the unwillingness of foolish preening politicians and bureaucrats to take the term seriously. Job well done, elites!

However, I'm more than half convinced that the impetus for this generosity is not organic but has emanated from the Poison Cherry Blossom Throne and its multitude of subsidiaries. Since the 1990s, the USA has supported muslims with arms and air strikes against christians.

Hopefully Trump can begin to detoxify the brownfield intellectual environment we now dwell in. It would be so much healthier for Europe to have America at arm's length, and dismantling NATO might be a good first step.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 12, 2016 8:29 AM  

Breaking a years' long boycott, I watched the ABC network news yesterday. It was an OPEN SEWER of propaganda, poorly disguised as "news."
1. Breathless horror at a typical winter storm (wait for it, it's Man-made due to Climate Change!)
2. The world is in CHAOS, it needs LOTS MORE AMERICAN INVOLVEMENT!
3. Look at these WONDERFUL (black) immigrants! Why, one of them (teen-aged son of a woman who came from the Dominican Republic) is accepted to CORNELL!
4. Donald Trump is the only loon who still thinks the Russians didn't hack the election and prevent the rightful nominee, Hillary Clinton, from winning!! After all SEVENTEEN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES report that the Ruskies did it, the Ruskies did it!

The Left still owns the megaphone, but the result increasingly looks like they handed the megaphone to former inmates of an Asylum for the Criminally Insane.

Anyone who still gets their "news" from the networks is quite literally delusional, so far from sanity has their reporting moved.

Blogger seeingsights December 12, 2016 8:32 AM  

Not only there's discussion of cutting corporate taxes in the US, but a similar discussion is going on in the UK. Cutting taxes would hasten the end of the European Union, for capital would leave Continental Europe to go to the UK and US.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 12, 2016 8:37 AM  

Some serious anti-Russian money probably will be spent in the Capitol District, senators by the dozen and lobbyists by the gross.

Of course working against all that money are the goofy hysterical women of the political left, making being anti-Russian as popular as bed lice.

Anonymous Bz December 12, 2016 8:43 AM  

Actually, I've heard the USA described as a great tax haven for non-Americans.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 12, 2016 8:48 AM  

Lockheed better start spending some of that tax payer loot and they better book a time slot at "The Tower."

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 12, 2016 8:56 AM  

If the US pulls out of NATO, the EU collapses one way or another. The EU relies on US subsidies and rents for their militaries to fund their welfare states and still impose high taxes. If the US shuts off the money supply, then the EU will be forced to pay their own bills.

The EU leaders, being stupid, ruthless, and clever, will simply raise taxes and go full-on socialism to keep themselves in power. This would hasten the collapse.

I wouldn't bet on the EU leaders making any smart decisions, even when they're forced. They just double-down.

Look at the migrant crisis.

Horn of the Mark wrote:Stephan has conjectured that the migrant crisis is the elite's way of providing an easily accessible enemy for the native populace to vent their anger on when the financial system collapses. Better migrants than those responsible for both the collapse AND the migrants, they reason.

I disagreed with this. This puts too much sympathy in the hands of the EU leaders. They imported an army to intimidate the native peoples of Europe through violence - rape, assault, murder, theft - while also switching on the voting power of non-citizens. Migrant importation was a power play by the EU to maintain its position.

If the natives get restless and seem to want out of the EU? Import mercenaries to smack the natives.

Anonymous Teamer December 12, 2016 9:01 AM  

"I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO.."

Well, you got to pay back Russia Some how.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt December 12, 2016 9:01 AM  

Mais, zut alors! 'E does not realize zat La Fronce is ze leader culturel of ze world! Ever since Napoleon, eet 'as been so. We are ze langue de diplomacy international, zey speak eet at ze Olympiques. Et le wine! Et le cheese! Et les baguettes! Quel scandale!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 12, 2016 9:17 AM  

Seeing that the Democratic party's base cannot spell NATO it will be up to the GOP to save it. At least that pansy Lindsey Graham should get a favor from the likes of Keith Olbermann

Anonymous RCFlyer December 12, 2016 9:19 AM  

Kryten 2X4B 523P wrote:The EU is effectively the Republic of Haven from the Honor Harrington series. Wonder if thats where David Weber got the inspiration.

The inspiration was France around the time of the Revolution. But yeah, there are a lot of parallels.

Blogger James Dixon December 12, 2016 9:43 AM  

> I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO

If it were Trump decision alone to make, he very well might. But I expect he'll get a lot of push back if he tries. But NATO, the UN, and the WTO could all go away as far as I'm concerned.

Blogger modsquad December 12, 2016 9:54 AM  

I have to think if Trump pulls out of NATO, that precludes him going after the FRB next. That's the only fight I would find exciting.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents December 12, 2016 10:10 AM  

@6
And if I don't finish it that's cool cause Scalzi ain't finish yet either so either way I'mma keep this Holiday META-MAGA! Peace

But you're still stuck on how to Make Trantor Great Again, what's up with that?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 12, 2016 10:22 AM  

VD
I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO, which would serve as a sufficient trigger for the fall of the fraudulent Brussels-based Euro elite.

He may not have to. IF NATO member Turkey turns loose hundreds of thousands of Mesopotamian and South Asian invaders, tossing them like live grenades into eastern Europe, what next? In Current Year emptying out rapefugee camps onto boats looks more like an invasion than any sort of act of "compassion".

Italy just bit its collective thumb in the direction of the EU. The eastern European nations are in NATO mainly as a counter to Russian power, but if the cost of NATO membership now comes with being swamped by Asian invaders, it's not a good deal anymore. So why not leave, and form an Eastern European mutual defense pact? Bulgaria already has a fence, Macedonia has a fence, Serbia is ready to put a fence in place if it is needed. That would confine land-based invaders from NATO member Turkey to NATO member Greece which can't possibly deal with the load.

Erdogan may do more in the next year to kill NATO than anyone else, if he tosses his rapefugee grenade into the Balkans.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 12, 2016 10:32 AM  

Erdogan may do more in the next year to kill NATO than anyone else, if he tosses his rapefugee grenade into the Balkans.

We've always most feared that some dumbass Latvian or such would get into a dick-measuring contest with Putin and drag the USA into war. A much more intriguing development would be open warfare between supposed NATO "allies."

I wonder if the US military's nuclear munitions in Turkey are now entirely encircled by Turkish troops....?

Anonymous Longtime Lurker December 12, 2016 10:36 AM  

"I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO. . ."

Do you really think he is going to do that? Or is his criticism of NATO more for theatrical effect? An opening gambit in the never-ending trans-Atlantic debate/negotiation about burden-sharing?

President Trump will only have so much political capital to spend, and pulling the U.S. out of NATO will consume much of it, leaving less than he might need for other priorities.

Senate Republicans (McCain, Graham, etc.) will lead the charge against NATOEXIT. And the Democrats? They will pile on.

My guess, FWIW, is that Trump's rhetoric on NATO is an opening rhetorical shot in a renewed U.S. effort to get the allies to pay more for Eastern Europe's defense.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 12, 2016 10:52 AM  

I wonder what the effects of him saying "Why should I care about nations that are suicidal, bent on self-destruction by non-integrating immigration? They clearly plan on destroying themselves, I plan on working with nations that have the self-confidence to fight for themselves."

Anonymous Cheddarman December 12, 2016 11:09 AM  

@ 46 Longtime Lurker,

Most Americans could care less about NATO.

Even fewer can give a good reason for why we need to pay for the defense of Europe against nonexistent enemies.

Anonymous BGKB December 12, 2016 11:15 AM  

EU member states will send further shivers down the collective spine of Europe's elite

Who knew collectivists had a spine? I am glad that the Express recognizes the EU as collectivists.

Stunned European Union chiefs have been thrown into panic mode since Might I suggest they double down?

. I cannot wait to see what happens tomorrow. The big show will be after the inauguration. It will be called "Don't Garrote Fewer Felons than A Faggat"

Strikes me as elaborate, but maybe the least ridiculous explanation? It's also hard to believe they're so naive as to think

They would have learned their lesson from when they did it before the inquisition. They don't think on their feet they play the same scams over and over.

The EU is effectively the Republic of Haven from the Honor Harrington series. Wonder if thats where David Weber got the inspiration.

He asked himself "If I was a collectivist reptilian with a PP smaller than my thumb what would I do"

Breaking a years' long boycott, I watched the ABC network news yesterday.

This weeks Madame Secretary revisionist historied the Iran nuke deal.

Actually, I've heard the USA described as a great tax haven for non-Americans.

The US is the only one that didn't sign the treaty that screws US citizens with overseas bank accounts.

Italy just bit its collective thumb in the direction of the EU.

I thought thumbing the nose was the Italian middle finger.

Blogger bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies } December 12, 2016 11:27 AM  

6. John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project December 12, 2016 5:26 AM
*stuff*



http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/974/clap.gif



i can't be racist, some of my best friends are Blasiaroon?


something else Trump has decided to ignore is the CIA. you know, the people running MK-Ultra and drug smuggling rings in the US so they can fund their black ops.

i don't know if Donald Trump will truly be good for America ... but he's got all the right enemies.

Blogger bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies } December 12, 2016 11:31 AM  

"I have received and taken calls from many foreign leaders…Russia, UK, China, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and more. I am always available to them."


bwahahahahahaha.

Fake News Media accuses Trump of benefiting from Russian 'interference' in the US election, The Donald responds by noting that he's taking calls from ... Putin.

go on, some body claim that Trump isn't taking this seriously enough.

i fucking dare you.

OpenID elijahrhodes December 12, 2016 11:50 AM  

And again I've been spammed. WTF? All I did was comment on the congressional bill posted by @27

OpenID elijahrhodes December 12, 2016 11:58 AM  

OK, let's try posting this again with the link removed. See post @27

What a wonderfully Orwellian title: Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act

And if you read the details of the bill you find gems like these:

(1) To support local independent media who are best placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation in their own communities.

(2) To collect and store examples in print, online, and social media of disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda directed at the United States and its allies and partners.

In other words, we'll establish government approved “independent media” (cough, cough…) who will stands as beacons of “truth” (cough, cough...) against the fake news propagandists (who clearly are foreign government operatives… cough, cough).

It's for the children! Think about the children!

Blogger Jack Ward December 12, 2016 11:58 AM  

i don't know if Donald Trump will truly be good for America ... but he's got all the right enemies.
Hear, Hear!
And, most of his 'enemies' are our enemies.
Also, of course, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And, I even voted for him.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 12, 2016 12:05 PM  

Migrant importation was a power play by the EU to maintain its position.

That's my take too. The EU is led by transzi Globalists who have more affinity for their class than their people. They're a bastardized reincarnation of Medieval Feudal barons, the sort who's ambitions were hamstrung by the rise of nationalism about half a millennium ago. They instinctively see nations as their enemy, and seek to disrupt and scatter them wherever possible.

Nations are harder to control. The people of a nation will fight for each other out of genetic affinity. The people of a class are more easily bribed with promises of advantage, or cowed with threats of losing their social position.

OpenID dreadilkzee December 12, 2016 12:14 PM  

Once heard a black person say "If I wanted to live with all these n---ers I would have stayed where I grew up. I move to be around white people so I could stop dealing with those f--kers and learn to be civilized."

There are exceptions and frankly those people probably want stability that the host culture provides and to maybe one day have their off-spring become part of it. But that take generations and the transplant would do well to support the host to the exception of their previous culture if they want it to survive. They must also do it at a rate that doesn't kill the host.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 12:54 PM  

@7 Takin' a Look
@Horn of the Mark

Antarctica, they've really been focusing on Antarctica for some reason in the last year.
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It is amazing what all has been going on in Antarctica recently, at least since Obama. A ton of conspiracy theories about this - I put a lot of Gabs up with videos and stuff just last night under #ConspiracyTheory

- Why did Lurch Kerry go there?
- WTF was Buzz Aldrin doing down there?
- Did you hear about Buzz Aldrins deleted tweet with a photo of one of the antarctic pyramids?
- Have you heard about the Ark of Gabriel?
- One of the Podesta emails wikileaks dumped had 23 photos from Antarctica, and it's not a frozen wasteland as I had imagined. There are some obvious entrances to tunnels in some of the photos.
- Rumors of nazi bases from WWII down there, which I found a yuuge wikileak PDF about
- Admiral Byrd
- Funny one I saw today about Russians digging a long hole to some underground lake and being in a battle with a sharktopus or something lol (might have been a pulp story) :P

These things are fun to look at when you have to take a break from pizzagate, NWO, lefties, etc.

Anonymous genericviews December 12, 2016 12:55 PM  

Invite Russia INTO NATO, then pull out.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 12:57 PM  

OP I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO, which would serve as a sufficient trigger for the fall of the fraudulent Brussels-based Euro elite.
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I'd have to dig, but I recall Trump actually talking about this in one of his rallies. It may have been the first Pensacola rally. He was saying it was obsolete, big waste of money, and we can't afford to keep doing it like we are now. People surmised then that he would start forcing the participants to pay their way in NATO, which they must not be doing now.

Blogger dienw December 12, 2016 12:58 PM  

"[T]he Ark of Gabriel" is the server Gab is on.

And you knew that was coming.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 1:02 PM  

@23 Phillip George

And still no forensic proof of life on Julian Assange? Renditioned dead, or drugged?
You are in a war this very moment.
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He was the real man of the year for exposing the worldwide networks of evil.

Really doubt he is in that embassy any more, dead or alive. Wikileaks twitter accounts seem to be completely different people running it. Co-opted.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker December 12, 2016 1:12 PM  

@48: "Most Americans could care less about NATO."

While that may be true on its face, most Americans elected a Congress, particularly a Senate, that does care about NATO.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 1:12 PM  

@27 dienw

If Trump is smart, he will target the MSM with this bill. Isn't a yuuge percentage of Fix News and the others owned by Saudis? Well, well.

Hey, isn't even Twitter and Facebook also largely owned by Saudis? Well, well.

Use their tactics against them. Shut these beasts down. And then make some kind of law preventing foreign governments from owning our land, companies, and politicians.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 1:19 PM  

@41 James Dixon

But NATO, the UN, and the WTO could all go away as far as I'm concerned.
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I could RIP if he got us out of the UN completely. And kicked their dumb blue helmets out of our cities, and their UN building out of our country. Set it up in Saudi Arabia where it belongs.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 1:21 PM  

@45 dc.sunsets
I wonder if the US military's nuclear munitions in Turkey are now entirely encircled by Turkish troops....?
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There was a lot of talk about this back during that supposed coup a couple months ago. Would we really have kept our important weapons there after that coup?

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 1:26 PM  

50. bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies }
something else Trump has decided to ignore is the CIA.
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I heard on the radio today that he is calling them out about this Russian crap, along with tossing a bomb out about Why do we need a one China policy anyway?

Sheeiit Trump is going to be President World Troll - the most epic Troll in the universe, before this is over :P

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 1:31 PM  

@53 elijahrhodes

What a wonderfully Orwellian title: Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act
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They are putting this power into the hands of Trump. It says it won't take effect until maybe 180 days after enactment. Could this be an epic self destructive move by the elites and MSM?




(1) To support local independent media who are best placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation in their own communities.
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Trump could use this to shut down CNN and the others who are owned by the Saudis and . . . China :P Why do we need a one china policy anyway HHAHAHAHAAA -



(2) To collect and store examples in print, online, and social media of disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda directed at the United States and its allies and partners.
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Well the alt-right, conspiracy theorists, alt-light, everybody has been storing these things for them already ! We have plenty of examples of fake news from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, WaPo (the epic GrabGate, anyone?)

This thing is a tool that should be put to use against these fake news msm STAT

Anonymous BKKB December 12, 2016 1:35 PM  

It ate a comment I gave covering a PA warehousefire that destroyed votes for the ongoing recount. I guess no links for me

And still no forensic proof of life on Julian Assange? Renditioned dead, or drugged?

I am hoping he is just laying low waiting to drop the Haitian granddaughter of all WikiLeaks after the inauguration. Sorry Obama you can't pardon yourself now.

Anonymous Discard December 12, 2016 1:36 PM  

Trump may have to fight TPTB to get us out of NATO, but he has the megaphone now. Force the MSM to explain why we need to station troops and planes over there, and watch them stumble. They've never had to justify anything for decades. Look how he has torn them a new asshole simply by criticizing wetbacks. Many other policies are equally indefensible, and that is the real reason they fear him.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 12, 2016 1:37 PM  

@60 dienw
"[T]he Ark of Gabriel" is the server Gab is on.

And you knew that was coming.
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HA, that one I didn't see coming! I don't think that's the one in the conspiracy theory, which is more a religious collusion between muslim, catholic, and russian orthodox for some kind of angelic doomsday weapon :P

Anonymous That Would Be Telling December 12, 2016 1:41 PM  

@65 Were-Puppy:

@45 dc.sunsets
I wonder if the US military's nuclear munitions in Turkey are now entirely encircled by Turkish troops....?

There was a lot of talk about this back during that supposed coup a couple months ago. Would we really have kept our important weapons there after that coup?


Obama is our Commander in Chief. He probably thinks it would be a gas for the Turks to gain control of all those weapons.

Note they might have to be simply farmed for their fissionables, they tend to have safeties that don't disengage unless they're subjected to the normal forces of delivery, plus Permissive Action Links, the latter of which could get quite nasty if tampered with. Although I suppose they aren't too vigorous, you don't want a false positive to, for example, asymmetrically set off the conventional explosives.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents December 12, 2016 2:43 PM  

The rats are really in a panic. Now it's all about the R00sHN HaKRZ that somehow affected the election, & some electors wanting a CIA briefing all that HAKCING before they vote on the 19th. Naturally pedo-face Podesta supports this. Plus some Conn. congressman is urging electors to vote for Clinton no matter what.

The stink of desperation floats from California across the vast, deserted wasteland of Flyover country and comes to rest in the Acela corridor. Its perfume goes well with salty libtard tears to create a fine mix of Lulz.

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 12, 2016 2:49 PM  

Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act

Put Milo in charge.

Blogger Iron Spartan December 12, 2016 3:30 PM  

The quickest way to break NATO would be to enforce the treaty as written.

"Pay your dues, including back dues, and meet the required military strength requirements." Nato would be reduced to the USA and Canada overnight.

Blogger S. Misanthrope December 12, 2016 4:06 PM  

What is "self-avowed"? These fake news writers are so desperate to cast aspersions on Trump, they are making up words as well as news.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 12, 2016 4:56 PM  

@73 Exactly. They planned on Hillary being president and using this against us. We'd be in derelict of duty if we didn't use this law against the real fake news.

Blogger Konrad December 12, 2016 5:16 PM  

Might end up beneficial for Europe. Because what did relationship with USA gave EU in last two decades? Endless wars that USA started Europe now has to suffer consequences? Oh..and tring to destroy EU economy by the way of TTiP.
The only benefit has been lower military expenses thanks to Nato, but EU would do better with all their members spending 2% of army instead of relying on USA. Russia is weak and almost broke. You don't need to increase spending by a lot to completely outspend them and then never worry if USA will actually honor the NATO deal, which likely they wouldn't, choosing to abandon their allies instead. And EU having stronger military presence would kill the leverage USA has over the continent.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 12, 2016 5:45 PM  

And EU having stronger military presence would kill the leverage USA has over the continent.

And having to take military service seriously would make a needed psychological difference in Europe.

Blogger SirHamster December 12, 2016 5:54 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:- One of the Podesta emails wikileaks dumped had 23 photos from Antarctica, and it's not a frozen wasteland as I had imagined. There are some obvious entrances to tunnels in some of the photos.

That was intriguing enough for me to dig into. Comes from this email.

Email has Chinese title that Google translates to "The iceberg dissolves rapidly". Seems more linked to climate change baloney, but still interesting ...

Anonymous Marvin Boggs December 12, 2016 6:14 PM  

Am I the only one who pronounces EU "ewwwwww"?

Anonymous Marvin Boggs December 12, 2016 6:21 PM  

@16: Yo, Stevo, ignore the CBC. It's been fully converged for at least 30 years and partially converged for at least 40. when I was very young, I used to love listening to the CBC on my (tube) radio. But the older I got, the worse the CBC got. Other than Hockey Night in Canada, I've pretty much given up on the CBC. Time to sell it off.

Blogger Lazarus December 12, 2016 6:27 PM  

Trump won Wisconsin again. By 162 more votes.

Cost Jill Stein's donor 3.5 million. Well, he has lots to throw around. No biggie.

Blogger Lazarus December 12, 2016 6:57 PM  

Moar fun:

Paul Joseph Watson Dismantles Fabricated Russian Narrative

Anonymous Avalanche December 12, 2016 7:27 PM  

"I'm starting to think there is a very good chance that the God-Emperor is going to pull the US out of NATO"

Oh please please please, once again, be prescient Vox!! This is a consummation devoutly to be desired!!

Anonymous Avalanche December 12, 2016 7:46 PM  

@56 "Once heard a black person say "If I wanted to live with all these n---ers I would have stayed where I grew up. I move to be around white people so I could stop dealing with those f--kers and learn to be civilized."
There are exceptions and frankly those people probably want stability that the host culture provides "

Not my problem -- get the HELL out of my neighborhoods!! Let's start Liberia2!

Blogger Johnny December 13, 2016 12:12 AM  

Lazarus wrote:Trump won Wisconsin again. By 162 more votes.

Cost Jill Stein's donor 3.5 million. Well, he has lots to throw around. No biggie.


If I understand correctly they are going to be sending her a bill for another couple of million. The cost was more than expected. Unless she has in excess of the seven mill they talk about, she is probably close to being spent out.

The recount did have one useful outcome. It distracted the left from their latest slander, that Trump is in league with commies, or you know, whatever.

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